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asciilifeform: 'if this is real, why not at my corner shop eh'
asciilifeform: well yes, i was speaking from pov of folx who encounter for first time
asciilifeform: but then again someone could point same type of finger at, e.g., FUCKGOATS
asciilifeform: i suspect that if either baikal or elbrus ~existed~ in commercially relevant qtys, it would handily corner the 'fuck cisco and usg crapolade' market worldwide
asciilifeform: but i'd luvv to be proven wrong.
asciilifeform: presently i'm not convinced that 'baikal' cpu exists -- experience suggests that it's an elbrus, a small handful of physical items for ru army and a large stack of imaginary bezzle cpus which actually turned into swiss gold and florida mansions for various scum instead of into cpu
mircea_popescu: anyway, to repurpose an ustardism, "in a world starved of whorish talent, it is hard to lose money hiring sophomores from moscow u."
mircea_popescu: phf` go to moscow, incorporate, hire a coupla hookers at the moscow uni, pref 2nd/3rd year, send one to baikal once you're done fucking them ?
phf`: i'll look into it next trip
asciilifeform: looks like we have a man for this job...
asciilifeform wrote to baikal, fwiw
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : incorporate in moscow, hire a coupla call girls, pay their salary and send them to find you pieces.
phf`: tried sourcing it, no dice. person i know who could've helped recently moved to germany
asciilifeform: speaking of zepto, linked http://www.baikalelectronics.com/products/T1 << i muchly would want this. anyone try to buy ?
phf`: asciilifeform: not a friend, a ru reverser that i've spoken to, presumably he accepts hardware from all givers https://zeptobars.com
ben_vulpes: these are the lolz that are good for buttcoin.
ben_vulpes: in other waaaat, spicer hiding in bushes to avoid questions about comey
asciilifeform: dun forget to sign
asciilifeform: btw gabriel_laddel_p i still have an x61 lappy that iirc you wanted
mircea_popescu: and champion seeds that are plowed under every night won't ever champion anything, next field will raise an economically relevant crop of tubers if left undisturbed.
mircea_popescu: a woman that'd make a great wife STILL HAS TO spend more than a few weeks on one man to achieve that potential.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the reason you do not see results commensurate with your perceived (and for all anyone knows, correctly perceived) subjective capacity is that you do not provide yourself with proper basis and sufficient time to make it happen.
gabriel_laddel_p: No? But I suppose that is the case, isn't it.
mircea_popescu: right. is the subtext that if only you were somehow involved this'd have been averted ?
gabriel_laddel_p: rocket explosion + failure of a PATRIOT missile to hit its target, resulting in 28 deaths.
gabriel_laddel_p: The article also lists 2 disasters that resulted from floating point errors
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: an addition to the story that "floating point must die": because otherwise intelligent people who have PHDs, write haskell & work on stuff we useveryday end up making less-than-obvious mistakes without realizing it.
mircea_popescu: yes, but why is the happenstance that some dood with the right robes made $mistake relevant ?
gabriel_laddel_p: anyways, just another addition to ascii's "floating point has to die" thread.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: read the article. Or just the smooth surprise part. It isn't an overflow error
gabriel_laddel_p: I was hanging out with aerospace ppl, one of whom works on computer aircraft software -- gave him the function in question and told him it had a floating point error, asked what it was
asciilifeform: what became of this ?
asciilifeform: incidentally iirc phf` had a phriend with access to subj
asciilifeform: one 'asks' by dissolving package in nitric acid and then micrograph.
mircea_popescu: ask the fucking chip!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "they slap, they slap, but some fuck!"
asciilifeform: i'd luvv to know.
asciilifeform: how the living fuck does one reverse ciphered blob of instructions for unknown instruction set, consisting mainly of writes to registers of unknown purpose (mostly dealing in such things as setting PLL frequency etc) without physical peek ?
mircea_popescu: is it related to the "ven" bs nefario was pushing at his stallman-attended scamference ?
gabriel_laddel_p: "send $ to a phone #!"
gabriel_laddel_p: mod6: some USG money transfer thing for young people
mircea_popescu: is there an english equivalent to the ancient romanian "an idiot throws a stone overboard and ten philosophers can't fish it back out" ?
asciilifeform: iirc i even linked to datashit here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when you're done with that you can cycle through the realtek until you document it and reverse the blob, we'll be good.
asciilifeform: 'no one will believe, but i find the fixation with ancient iron, counterproductive', said asciilifeform from old x60 lappy
trinque: you (snort) you gotta go big asciilifeform, just make the (pounds desk) the list of all hardware.
mircea_popescu: hey, if that were true...
gabriel_laddel_p: and half days at that
gabriel_laddel_p: I can't imagine this would take more than 5 days + a bunch of coffee.
mircea_popescu: "eight." "eight what ?" "eight million. when i was a kid i figured you had to get eight million together to be considered a legitimate rich guy. so i got busy".
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: but I want the _complete_ list.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I have a partial list of hardware related items from the logs.
asciilifeform: the odd thing is that these are ~all in the l0gz
gabriel_laddel_p: I just turned up an extra $100 and will happily venmo it to you today if you JUST DO IT.
asciilifeform: 'i forgot my hat on top of mt everest, how much would you suppose you must charge, asciilifeform , to fetch it for me ??'
mircea_popescu: can't lay out silk for an umbrella without the spikes or how it went.
mircea_popescu: it might provide fine support for alf to transition from the phase of "i can't write a trilema" to the phase of "there it is, read it
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I don't care about how long, just want the price
asciilifeform: 'hmm was that 1 matrox in '98 any good? or was it a hercules..'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: this would take a rather long time. and i'm not convinced that the result would be very interesting
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: this pattern where hardware is named in-channel and then you comment on it is highly inefficient. How much would you charge (USD, via paypal/venmo) to iterate through a-zA-Z, 0-9, #\! thru #\) and name each and every item of computer hardware related to it you possibly can + give a review. Then to encrypt the resulting text file to a
mircea_popescu: miught make a fine offering for the eventual tmsr isp, just as soon as anyone gets off their intellectual arse and actually starts living life instead of dreaming it.
asciilifeform: it uses conductive, rather than convective, cooling, however, could be problem in a hot dc
asciilifeform: you can fit iirc 8 of'em in a traditional 1u
mircea_popescu: ah then cool
asciilifeform: apu1 racks, i even have the mechanical bracket somewhere
mircea_popescu: anyway, as far as "headless whatever" item is concerned trinque it seems to me something you can rack is a better choice than something you gotta keep around the house / out of dog's mouth etc.
mircea_popescu: this is probably a good thing.
trinque: I am not yet this cynical, if only for my own dick-pulling.
mircea_popescu: for me personally, the "young soviet" personified by cptn breznev was rather instructive.
asciilifeform: their approach to engineering is 'junkyard wars' -- 'look mother, what i made from dead possum and string!'
asciilifeform: trinque: such marvels as, e.g., 'web20', javascript, etc. came directly from allowing teenaged scum to have whatever involvement in design aside from cleaning the shop at closing time each day.
mircea_popescu: you know, "Goes against their principles".
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think they'll ever do something useful though, for the reason that it's useful. somehow the drones intuit and avoid any non-drony un-pointless meaningful activity.
trinque: army of excitable young dickheads are meanwhile all farting around winking at us from their android devices or whatever
trinque: wasn't hardware thread. got dragged there because reasons.
trinque: if these are retarded let teh youf mark the idiocy with their bodies
asciilifeform: not really pertinent to hardware thread imho.
mircea_popescu: nic will say whatever ip it fuckinfg feels like saying that day
asciilifeform: trinque: 'ban ip' in context referred to 'ban port', 'reject dns', or whatever other machinations.
mircea_popescu: hardly. what exactly do you even want to "ban ips for" on your realtek nic asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: but relates, because 'make isolating nic for x86' is not a solvable problem, it is a gabriel_laddelism -- for one thing, such a device is already available, it is called usb nic. but is hog-slow, for fundamental reasons (polled i/o)
asciilifeform: and yes, this was different thread.
asciilifeform: but basic idea -- nothing other than fpga machine conforms to 'auditable without electron microscope' and 'specificity of diddling'.
trinque: what do they use it on, running weed around and whatnot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is not this conversation.
asciilifeform: how to architect fpga box is separate conversation, and iirc mircea_popescu had a pretty good handle on it.
trinque: and what of teenagers being expendable and this being a vastly undertapped resource?
mircea_popescu: no, have motherboard design where the "dma" is a specified bank, and the cpu ram is a different bank ; and let it call whichever it specifically wants.
asciilifeform: no magical whatevers, just basic clay out of which to make the comp.
asciilifeform: ditch the 'insulators'. asciilifeform asks for 1 thing and 1 thing only hardwarewise -- massive open fpga, coupled to dram slots.
trinque: and have all the excited teenagers stick them everywhere
trinque: I dunno what strategic sense it makes to as yet have no mechanical way to stamp out a full trb node
mircea_popescu: so tmsr computing wishlist goes a) ram insulating motherboard ; b) fully open nic to fuckgoats standards.
asciilifeform: ( how the hell did anyone even port coreboot to apu2 ?? )
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that 1) afaik it does not exist . 2) the idiot pc architecture gives your nic - regardless of who made it -- access to ALL OF RAM
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd feel happier with random hp box behind proper nic than with special-gentoo-special-raspberypi with rotm realtek/whatever
asciilifeform: trinque: one nice thing is that the apu1 had 3 pci-m holes. so if a proper nic existed, you could potentially install it.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the nic issue gotta be addressed already.
trinque: and also other things