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mike_c: well, it's just a survey. confidence interval is +- 2 brazilian
felipelalli: no, I had worked in a statistical company, if you say to them that you made that, they gonna kill you! :)
mike_c: heh, 50 brazilian. that's a lot.
mike_c: ah. well, hit the streets, get 50 random brazilians to answer a survey. the results of that might be worth an article.
felipelalli: I want to write one, just like a dream. Not sure if I will accomplish.
mike_c: not even a good scam. price goes down all the time.
kakobrekla: i agree, its a scam.
felipelalli: I want to hire a statistical company to make a distributed properly research.
felipelalli: mike_c: I want to do an overview of the Bitcoin image in Brazil. I want to show how almost everybody here thinks it is a scam. But for this I use a professional statistical research that costs a fortune.
felipelalli: mike_c: why when I send this command to gribble I receive a different result?
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mats: the net must be a boring place for people who can't read the big three
felipelalli: thank you! Let me ask another thing: wouldn't nice if this page (default 404): http://qntra.net/anything/ (where anything can be anything) was linked somewhere? Like "Search" or "Category" (without the message "Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?")? This page is very useful because it shows the categories and the search. I couldn't find a link to search/category page.
mats: must be nice living in a first world country
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the only thing one can reliably get to where i live, without a motor, is 'convenience stores' which largely sell recycled food
kakobrekla: here you dont need a car to go to the store.
asciilifeform would have pet fetch food but it would require teaching pet to drive and issuing a vehicle
asciilifeform: why does a pet need money.
asciilifeform: what's it mean to have a pet on payroll even.
ben_vulpes: getting creative. it's a blast, honestly.
pete_dushenski: that's a fun game at least :)
mircea_popescu: get a volvo while at it
ben_vulpes: imma put lady v in a mercedes baby wagon here sometime
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> it's not a 3/4 ton pickup << lol
mircea_popescu: ah yes, i guess that's a point.
pete_dushenski: at -30C it'll take a while
pete_dushenski: it's not a 3/4 ton pickup
pete_dushenski: you thought it was a 5.6l diesel?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what he does is, "here's a turing machine, and here's how im painting my game on it. "
asciilifeform: seems like the question re: the linked article is, can one have the card players compute an arbitrary function (without them knowing) by having them play out a certain position
mircea_popescu: apparently a sack of 20 different apples is "turing complete" if you provide the turing completeness separately
pete_dushenski: i drive about 5000km a year so almost "doesn't drive"
pete_dushenski: i don't think i'll eke out 400 km of city driving on a 90l tank
mircea_popescu: http://cdn.collarspace.com/photos/2179295.jpg << lol nothing like a blonde girl with black eyebrows and landing strip.
asciilifeform: neh, the street bum who bids a penny will undercut.
pete_dushenski: and ordered a bullet-proof model, naturally, as soon as he returned to moscow
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i can't comment on whether gorby owns one, but the photo is clearly on a wash, d.c street
mircea_popescu: o hey, pete got a mertz ?
jurov: quite a shaky assumption
kakobrekla: in http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/kakobrekla and http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/kakobrekla/json
jurov: just to be sure, may i consider http://w.b-a.link/trust/ api stable?
jurov: sooo... if i need to have fresh data for btc-dev, i'm supposed to query http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/<nick/fingerprint>
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PeterL: it lets you use 1/0 as a number now?
davout: so 1/0 is a valid integer nao?
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davout: kakobrekla: can you force a reimport of my key?
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gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
nubbins`: note how the surface design is impossibly beautiful, indicating an inhumanly skilled craftsman, yet the shape of the BTC logo looks as if it was molded in play-doh by a 12yo
nubbins`: ^ from a "master wood carver" on the forums who "hand carves" his designs
assbot: You rated user kakobrekla on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: runs several solid btc enterprises (bit4x,bitbet,panacea,...);we met IRL.
BingoBoingo: Sure. I for example entered the Rozal rating on both WoTs because the information is immidiately useful to both #bitcoin-assets as lulz material and #bitcoin-otc as a leper's bell around the person's neck.
mircea_popescu: that they talk to each other is a convenience, and i guess best practice, but not really a necessity.
gribble: You rated user Rozal on Mon Jan 19 12:09:29 2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Fabricated theft allegations http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_allegation Confessed http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#983318 Full Indictment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_Indictment.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
ben_vulpes: yeah, mebbe he gets to it first. he'd certainly do a better job.
mircea_popescu: apparently fuckyou is now a biznis
mircea_popescu: lol@fuckyou.biz sez "this article is fucking stupid and i hope it was written as a joke to piss off nerds"
mircea_popescu: <davout> just wondering if there was a specific reason it wasn't mentioned in the spec << so people can have fun.
davout: if someone pops in here one day and says "o i can't pick up deedbot's crumbs anymore" you have a problem somewhere
Apocalyptic: afaik ben_vulpes is correct, it's a feature that icentivies 3rd parties to verify
davout: mats: 1000 btc used to also be hardly a pizza
mats: hardly a pizza
ben_vulpes: not bad for running a bot
ben_vulpes: 0.001 btc is a pizza today, and a nuke sub in five decades
davout: just wondering if there was a specific reason it wasn't mentioned in the spec
davout: not that i see this as a design flaw or somesuch, jsut
davout: mats: lol, a bot
ben_vulpes: davout: talk to the specwriter, but i believe the thing acts as a btc spigot so as to incentivize auditing of its behavior.
davout: ben_vulpes: you might just as well spend that back to deedbot's wallet by broadcasting a second transaction at the same time
ben_vulpes: that's a feature, davout
davout: also there was another thing regarding deedbot, if all deeds are simply concatenated before being hashed into a bitcoin private key, that means anyone watching the process taking place can deduce the bitcoin private key that's going to be generated, and claim the coins that'll be sent there
mircea_popescu: anyway, i got a meeting, we'll have to continue this debte in a few hours.
mircea_popescu: it does make sense. because the trust does not derive from a robotic application of a gpg seal.
mircea_popescu: you're free to sign whatever matter a similar way, but it won't be thus notarized. it will just be your own mock-up of the process.
mircea_popescu: the notary keeps a list of all the items it was sent a certain way.
mircea_popescu: because for all i know you signed a "coin will fall heads" statement too and aren't sharing that one.
mircea_popescu: if you come hither with a signed statement saying "the coin will fall tails" i won't particularly care
Apocalyptic: davout sounds right, deedbot can verify a payment was made to that address and hence include it retrospectively
davout: the way i saw it was that it'd just be a manually-made lord-signed deed, rather than one compiled by an IRC bot
BingoBoingo: But part of the deedbot appeal is also hosting the deeds as a stronger pastebin/dpaste alternative.
davout: you can just sha256 your content, make an address out of that, send a bitcent there, and since that's how deedbot is supposed to work, you get your stuff deedbot-timestamped before deedbot even exists
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I've always had this standard ready. There was jsut never a situation for it.
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, you are setting a v.nice standard for this sort of situation
BingoBoingo thinks this could have been a perfect use of deedbot
BingoBoingo: davout: Some Derp fabricating a scam and negrating me.
BingoBoingo: If he wants to debate this he can do it in a public channel. Given he has fabricated allegations before I want to make it unambiguously clear that I will not engage him privately.
davout: poor guy will end up with a -200 global rating
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2015 15:27:37; Rozal: I apologize, yes im a big liar who got mad because cazalla messes up my perfect ratings