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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:54:10 lobbes: will probably ammend
the READMEs of all converters once
this
testing phase is over. For better clarity on expected irssi/znc log formats
mircea_popescu: though not momentarily, long list of shit
to see
through.
bvt: i don't
think
that zombie socket can interfere with current code --
the local side of
the socket gets unused random port automatically.
this would be an issue only when bind(2) was called on socket before connect
snsabot: asciilifeform:
time since my last reconnect : 26d 5h 55m
bvt: asciilifeform:
today i had a quick look
through stevens, apparently
timeout for SO_KEEPALIVE is
two hours (digging
through linux source confirms), so i don't
think
this option is any useful as is;
TCP_KEEPIDLE sets
the keepalive
timeout per-socket, but
then
there is a question
to which extent
to rely on all of
these socket options.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 22:55:05
trinque: as of now, I've retired ben_vulpes' paster in favor of my own.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 03:46:17 dorion: It appears
to me
the options are a) make a patch
to boost
to backport
the aarch64 support , b) build
the arm 32bit
toolchain and 32bit bitcoind on rockchip and attempt
to run
there.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:15:54 mircea_popescu:
the obverse of
that "oh, stalin got
tupolev back out of dungeon" coin is
that BEFORE getting itno dungeon, cis-tupolev,
the whole half million of
them, had ONE DAMNED GOOD reason
to get out of bed in
the morning. "holy shit it's gonna happen
to me",
terror works. on short stretches at a
time, but works.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:14:53 mircea_popescu: but yes,
the ~one~ good (unintentional, and unaware, but neither of
this matters) 2nd order effect of attempted socialism is
that in
the mid phase it shook
the complacency out of people.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:11:58 mircea_popescu: here
they sat, same #trilema as
today, and preened, like
these do. nothing came of it, and
then one day i showed up and kicked
them all out.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:39 mircea_popescu: as i
tell
the slavegirls "when
they most need my support", "do or fucking die ; and i don't particularly care which
the fuck it is."
diana_coman: well, I can suspect all sorts of
things but suspicions are not something you can base your argument on.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: neah; and I'm not going now
to
try and guess what was in phf's mind at one point or another, wtf.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: in
that particular selected snippet,
tell me for my curiosity *what* exactly stopped phf from
talking directly
to mp? and for
that matter again, what exactly stopped him from
telling his girl
to get online and say "help"?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: and
three heads
to boot since we are doing
this, of course.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: eh; still stuck on "logger down was
the problem", right?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I doubt it can help you if it gets read like
the rest; anyway,
the shortest summary I can come up with: phf persistently refused
to engage
tmsr beyond
the purely
technical; and ultimately (when pressure forced a decision) made his choice for out rather
than in.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: neah, you are cherry picking bits and pieces
that fit
the idea you already have.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so what in
there is "logger down"??
diana_coman: asciilifeform: did you follow
the link in
that statement and read
the selected part?
diana_coman: just for a few, I really don't see how you persist in
the idea
that it was "logger down"
the problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:53:00 lobbes: iirc he made a point
that he doesn't read other castle's logs for
this reason (so as
to not embitter
the grounds
there)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:23:16 mircea_popescu: and
to properly bolster
the fundaments of
the foregoing
terror -- it DPOES NOT MATTER whether one actually was, deliberately, working for
the enemy. from my pov, phf is not "merely an idiot", but very well
saboteur anon describes NOT because he actually is, but because... again, guy found with smoking gun next
to dead president is hanged, [
http diana_coman: asciilifeform: but
that's not what happened.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:26:02 mircea_popescu: and so
this is what happened
there,
the complete story : he did ~just what a saboteur would do~, because look how fucking wunderbar=ly it'd have sabotaged if it worked ; and a less-than-divine mp easily would've gotten fucked over it. so now -- we can never be friends again, i ain't getting over
that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict
their access
to
the danger, but you can't fence in
the danger "for your safety and security"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:17:15 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935442 <<
tjhere's a
thread re micro/macro economy and a discussion of money in its dual aspect somewhere but i can't
take
the
time
to find it for you right nao, leaving for hunedoara castle in about five minutes. we can revisit
this in weekend
though, ping me.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-06 06:17 mircea_popescu:
there's
two kinds of money see ? money-%, like btc.
that's
the money used by
the people who allocate resources.
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
that wasn't at all
the issue and it has been already pointed out
to you several
times, here and on
trilema.com
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:26:02 mircea_popescu: and so
this is what happened
there,
the complete story : he did ~just what a saboteur would do~, because look how fucking wunderbar=ly it'd have sabotaged if it worked ; and a less-than-divine mp easily would've gotten fucked over it. so now -- we can never be friends again, i ain't getting over
that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict
their access
to
the danger, but you can't fence in
the danger "for your safety and security"
diana_coman: whaack: worth noting
though
that
this "I can start helping" is (given its history) incorrect and keeping you back; you're better served by stating
the naked "I'll ask for help and do what I'm asked
to do,
today"
diana_coman: you can restrict
their access
to
the danger, but you can't fence in
the danger "for your safety and security"
diana_coman: asciilifeform: for
the other
thing,
the situation you describe can indeed very well happen and yes, a problem, but
the solution can never be "restrain your adverse reaction"
diana_coman: whaack: so possibly #ossasepia or #asciilifeform are better places for you
to
try
to get in.
whaack: nothing directly republic related. i've been reminded by reading
the recent logs
that i'm in
the perpetual ill-start-helping-tomorrow state. i always have an excuse for myself: "i'll be increasing noise, im
too unedecuated
to do shit, i need
to become bilingual/get out of reich first, etc. etc"
diana_coman: asciilifeform: well, for one
thing I don't
think it's an accurate description of
the situation in
that...who produced phf, esthlos, framedragger? re esthlos at least I can even say
that no, he precisely dropped out of ..production as you put it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-05-17 19:17:34
trinque: whaack: more important
than where you haul your ass is what you're going
to do when you get
there.
diana_coman: drat, I still got
the [][] order wrong, ugh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:49:58 asciilifeform: it is very easy
to say 'they were weak, fughet'em'. but fact remains,
they were not replaced , of yet .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all
this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had
the sense
to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather
than let him sit his dumb ass on us for
two years.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:43:20 asciilifeform:
trinque:
orig. contention, which i disputed. phf was 1 of
the very, very few people whose hands grew from right place, and it will
take very long
time
to replace , not even speaking of
the full functionality of
the orig. bot ( still not had ) but of e.g.
the vpatch viewer, which i use erry fucking day of
the week
diana_coman: from your paste
though, I suspect it's mainly
that you missed
that part of
the README where it says months as NUMBERS.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it
took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 23:53:06 lobbes: I'm willing
to patch one or
the other (should be a quick fix). Now...
the question is which one?
The converter,
the raw-dumper, or should
the eat_dump.py be able
to handle BOTH formats?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:05:56
trinque: asciilifeform: and you know,
to
take
the other side of
the leucosys
thing,
this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like
to see it
taken by phf, yes)
the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer
the question,
the
threshold as I see it atm = reaching
to ban from *other* castles.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all
this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
dorion: It's not clear
to me which is preferable and I would appreciate some direction.
dorion: It appears
to me
the options are a) make a patch
to boost
to backport
the aarch64 support , b) build
the arm 32bit
toolchain and 32bit bitcoind on rockchip and attempt
to run
there.