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asciilifeform: so in short term imho useful to build, supposing it'll run, the 32bit one
dorion: it seems to me the latter is more straightforward, but that doesn't means it's better.
asciilifeform: dorion: at some pt we'll definitely want a properly 64bit trb on arm, so can use >4GB. thing is, currently there appears to be no arm64 box on the market that actually has >4GB.
dorion: asciilifeform no Sir. hence my question: is it better to patch boost for arm64 support or build arm 32 bit bitcoind to run on rockchip ?
asciilifeform: dorion: have you tried this ?
asciilifeform: dorion: interesting. i was for some reason certain that it didn't have a 32ism layer
dorion: http://logs/nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935621 << thanks, but the arm docs say ARMv8-A has ARMv7-A (AArch32) compatibility
asciilifeform: ha, pretty light log today.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 06:21:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this acceptabru on ye pizarro ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 04:14:57 mircea_popescu: in other greats outside the walls : https://www.jassa.org/?p=10723 << this dude ~actually sourced~ an extremely rare (online, it is in the basic toolkit of any serious medievalist, excellent late 1800s edition bei Boretius/Krause (BK)) source (Inquisitio de theloneis Raffelstettensis, BK 253) and then translated it.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-12#1935742 << pretty great link. surprised to see archaeologist like this writing in engl.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 02:42:06 lobbes: asciilifeform: ^ for your testing and approval
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-12#1935740 << ty lobbes ! i will test & emplace this today
trinque: looks to be working from here, sure you're using paste.deedbot.org (same IP as deedbot.org)
mircea_popescu: also re http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934962 : evidently the correct equation is (27*3+10)^4 = 68574961, because both small and capital letters. 68mn should be plenty.
mircea_popescu: (long story short, eugenie grandet of the colonies really really wants to impress le petit monsieur vane-charles, if not with a bit of cold pheasant for breakfast then at least with some gossip circle fireworks. needless to say the local bureaucrats weren't impressed with any of it.)
mircea_popescu: (and since we're doing history : anyone know of a study describing anne hutchinson's self-evident influence upon the concept of a "witch" in the colonies, and retelling the "witch trials" as her necessary epiphenomenal epigonic downstream ?)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this acceptabru on ye pizarro ?
mircea_popescu: spyked, you know what, re img pastebin ? i think im just going to revive ye ancient dtng service
diana_coman: meanwhile, after ~2 hours, I *finally* finished the log-reading of over-night logs, go me; it just strikes me that with #o I made myself even *more* to read, lol.
mircea_popescu: last article from the 9th, though, so he's active.
diana_coman: of the blog I mean, ofc.
diana_coman: I can't find anything about the author(s?) there though, no contact no nothing.
mircea_popescu: not to put too fine a point on it : yes slave trade ; no dubaloos.
mircea_popescu: the translation's far from terrible ; the item's important because a) it plainly discusses the slave trade (which, yes, underpinned most of the imperial economy eight years ago) and references a coin that's a.1) unatested anywhere else in the (voluminous, and pompous) imperial paperwork and a.2) isn't the official coin.
mircea_popescu: in other greats outside the walls : https://www.jassa.org/?p=10723 << this dude ~actually sourced~ an extremely rare (online, it is in the basic toolkit of any serious medievalist, excellent late 1800s edition bei Boretius/Krause (BK)) source (Inquisitio de theloneis Raffelstettensis, BK 253) and then translated it.
lobbes off to bed
lobbes: asciilifeform: ^ for your testing and approval
lobbes: well, I was wrong; still small patch, but ended up being > one char. Good thing I retested and reread
lobbes: wow, this might end up being the smallest patch ever. forget one line, this is one character in one line! fix tested and worx. patch incoming..
lobbes: ok, well confirmed that both the znc2tmsr and irssi2tmsr converters output to spec re: action lines. Looks like it is just the raw log knob. I will dig into it, fix, and patch
lobbes: I tried reading the actual script for clues, but too n00bish at awk still to make sense of it
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:17 diana_coman: from your paste though, I suspect it's mainly that you missed that part of the README where it says months as NUMBERS.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935537 << ty kindly for the snippets. I did read that in the README, but thought that it perhaps may have been referring to the date in the -filename- since I couldn't find any knobs in my irssi that dealt with the 'header' formatting in the log itself. This saved my sanity
asciilifeform: the fella who 'oopsed' 4 jets + battleship ? difficult to picture him being tried for anyffin
mircea_popescu: apparently vietcong comparatively humane socialism, he survived that ok. actually, with great beneficially.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure mccain'd have ended up "convicted" in just such a lulz "court" if he didn't have the foresight to braintumour first
mircea_popescu: but anyways, seems the ~only contribution of the social media generation to world affairs is guaranteed lulz-"convictions" of ~any older male politician
mircea_popescu: i honestly thought he was dead
asciilifeform: wai nao , and whose idea, is such a thing , it seems lulzy
asciilifeform: speaking of kalash, mircea_popescu what's this i hear re iliescu (ro eltsin) being tried in absentia for orchestrating the demise of shoemaker ?
asciilifeform: ( meanwhile, holyfuq is that xytable solid. i never expected for 100bux chinesium, to get item that can be happily used also as anvil . )
mircea_popescu: let it be clearly stated thus, that even if it apparently works on asciilifeform as it traditionally works ~everywhere, the "oh, let me show you my wares" coy behaviour doth not work on me. what's gained for this "did 1st class work, then got sad" thing's rather low level enmity.
mircea_popescu: i do however find the stotting behaviour quite infuriating. so yes, in my book the sort of retard who "does great work for like a year" isn't scoring above the sort of retard who does no work. i'd much rather have tea with elliott than any of the historical time-limited editions specifically for this reason.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:45:19 asciilifeform: but i aint about to nod to 'x was always trotskyist, we were mistaken from day 1 to involve him' logic.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935475 << i promise you nobody;s asking you to.
mircea_popescu: these are the sorts of theories entirely spurious for being entirely useless. whenever it's one fo those 0-predictive power nonsense & balls of yarn, "if it's true nothing's gained and if it's false the world's lost" you know you're in the presence of subconscious protection.
mircea_popescu: when it does, you'll still have your theories as to "recluses" and "irreplaceability", aka various names for self-appointed castration, "i am unchangeable" / "the world is unchangeable" bla bla bla girlytalk to keep you warm.
mircea_popescu: i expect diana_coman 's stable will soon enough surpass all the supposed "utility" you hallucinate in the anal children (much like a demented old hoarder hallucinates "utility" in random junk) ; much like trilema in fact surpassed any whisperer's monument, "against odds" etce
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:39:04 asciilifeform: trinque: for my part, i remember'em as folx who did 1st class work, of the kind i suspect nobody born after '90 is able to do, full stop. but then ran outta steam. (why, i do not know.)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935467 << the only merit to this theory is that it's lazyness-protective.
mircea_popescu: to an arbitrary standard, my sock is an adequate replacement for the entire world.
asciilifeform: for elliott, the tree stump outside my window is fully adequate replacement. rather ask, who will replace c. f. gauss .
mircea_popescu: and leaving that contemplation to the side : how do you propose to get me interested in your replacement plans once formulated ?
mircea_popescu: what replacement ? elliott had no children. like him -- legion of failures historically. how do you plan to replace elliott ?
mircea_popescu: most of the physically manifested genotypes amounted to notiong at all also.
mircea_popescu: MOST of the people who could've ever been ... were not.
mircea_popescu: the earth has been continuously inhabited by something rather like people for what, 20k generations or so ? each douche befouling the earth with his uneven gait and body odours today has thereby had 4e6k antecessors. yet the human population to date was never above 1e20, which happens to be the rounding error in that 6k.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:34:21 asciilifeform: it is very easy to say 'they were weak, fughet'em'. but fact remains, they were not replaced , of yet .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935464 << nobody's ever going to be replaced, dood, it's just not how this world works. what replaced.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:01 mircea_popescu: it'll solve all the world's problems regardless : either through zeroing, or else through solving.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:30:19 asciilifeform: trinque: 2-3 moar 'wins' like this and what will be left , will be mircea_popescu writing his memoirs.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935458 << i entirely see no problem with this. the obverse of "if it's worth doing it's worth doing well" is that if it's not good, it's not worth doing at all. the dedication's to the good not to the doing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:31:02 asciilifeform: trinque: cuz we're both recluses .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935460 << that's possibly the weirdest "cuz" i ever heard. what, you mean like in spiders ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this is the poisonous promise of the specialisation : "oh, ye newton, jus' practice your maffs, no need to go out practicing your kissing"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: some historians iirc convinced that newton's cock literally did not work
mircea_popescu: the stoic in me is unsurprised at the result.
mircea_popescu: instead of perceiving the imbalance as a problem, an' applying the one working bit to fixing the non working bit -- he just swung the schlong around. died bitter, reportedly.
asciilifeform: i'll be 1st to admit, i do not know the reason. (why he not talked)
mircea_popescu: i mean the stupid part's stupid.
mircea_popescu: the reason's half stupid though ; and when i say that i don't mean the smart part's stupid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i knew the window story as a boy and always it was part of why respected newton.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, he was ~summoned~ to parliament, all he said over years was asking to close the windows because draft ; the comission he bought ~same way fox the quaker ended up in money : wealthy admirer took pity.
asciilifeform: y'know, commissar of railroads, the 1 d00d who survived ~all of sovok w/out losing office 1nce, much less head, by having extraordinarily tight lip
mircea_popescu: neways, this is the problem of our age ; and my lengthy foray into tlp (truth & fairness : only prior art extant on the topic), while unpleasant, has provided me with some insight : i dun think his diagnosis is correct. derealization, yes, a certain kind and flavour, yes. but not anymore narcissist in nature than self-loathing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, actually, newton became master of mint ~precisely~ thtrough not talking to anybody.
mircea_popescu: all the way round to the archetipical anal child, sitting in his room "meditating" about "winning the lottery" -- because might as well.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 10:45:07 mp_en_viaje: this is also true, as a broad trend. it is unfortunate but true that the inept king prefers crossbowmen over archers, because archers take lifetime to train and dedication from puberty to craft, whereas crossbow can be operated by... outsourced labour. it takes a certain sort of short-sightedness to not notice the implicit band-of-brothers vs [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-07-12#1833989][your own nob
snsabot: Logged on 2019-04-17 15:31:05 a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 17:50 mircea_popescu: basically, all the architecture systems architects have managed yet to produce is the equivalent of "we need 10.1k builders - 100 to build and 10k to hold up the walls once we're done".
mircea_popescu: to the typical atlas, holding up a wall on his back -- whether this be premature optimization or dependopopotamous investments, or phd-assembly line or whatever other the fuck nonsense
asciilifeform suspects that herr newton is poor example -- fella did end up master of mint, and prolly not by sitting in locked office refusing to talk
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental problem, and it has quite the wingspan : from the newton who, retardedly, eschews talking to people because he is smart, and he knows he's smart, and he likes to rely on "the claw" etc -- but who then does not know people, and this includes not knowing himself, and so this puts him in the ridiculous position where he ends up investing most of the metaphysica-earth-moving-shovel time into shoveling a
asciilifeform: ( steam won because fast+reliable, not simply 'fast' . and apparently skilled navigator can make up the diff much of the time. but, 'phd assembly line', none alive nao. )
mircea_popescu: good for the finns.
asciilifeform: well wouldn't be interesting if were 'wood paste'. but they actually made nyc-helsinki in 2wks routinely.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, and the japanese still showed up on the field in wood paste armor. state of the art cca death of j. gracchus.
mircea_popescu: not that the estimation's mandatory for anyone else. but, to ~my own lights~, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, the finns ran iron-cum-sails clippers all the way into 1920s.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yet there's two kinds of problems : the problems it's good to have, and the problems it's bad to have. what i said was that this is, actually, a problem that's good to have.
mircea_popescu: some things were lost once the great man-o-wars made way for the not nearly as great clunkers called ironclads. and once people figured out wtf a sears-haack body is, planes suddenly became "flying coke bottles'
asciilifeform: even tho 'train coupla yrs away'
mircea_popescu: presenting the disappearance of horse&buggy as some kind of win was not, factually an' historically, disingenuos. even if trains did in fact take a while to "achieve same or better coverage in all points".
mircea_popescu: do you see the relationship ?
asciilifeform: ( on my terminal, shows up as rectangle w/ '01 01' at end of line )
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-17 00:05:49 mircea_popescu: i was using "continuous" to people's confused disbelief. apparently continuous just means "has value for all x in interval"
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-17 00:04:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you say "function that has derivate in every point" in englisch ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:29:16 asciilifeform: trinque: obv. mircea_popescu's (and for that matter anyone's) ratings are b/w him and odin. but imho to present the disappearance of phf as some kinda win, is disingenuous at best .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935457 << why ? as it happens, other log was open on http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-12-17#1752616 / http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-12-17#1752620 discussion, blessed by the fates as i find myself.
asciilifeform: grr reminds me, still gotta fix that 0x01 crud. ( bug that only shows up in live irc, not log, so i keep fughetting )