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decimation: point is, there's a third party involved. but crypto doesn't require a third party to machine the keys
BingoBoingo: <trinque> in fact we both value constraints, just that yours are in your noggin and I want mine in the thing << Knowing that a thing fails deadly is a value all its own.
asciilifeform: i can hardly think of a less-appetizing name for anything!
asciilifeform: when do we get a 'second cock solutions' ?
BingoBoingo: What, fail deadly is a thing.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> that imo is the killer feature << Portage seems too much a user friendly feature for OpenBSD. They have features, but avoid the kind that attract users with "easy"
trinque: ports seems almost the way there, but I don't see a way for example to globally mask a package or option as you can with portage
BingoBoingo: trinque> anyone ever tried portage on openbsd? << port are supported and pkg_src are supported porting portage to my knowledge is a work in progress or abandonware
trinque: anyhow it's a nice thought
trinque: gentoo is a labyrinth within which one transcends the derpitude
mod6: someone should publish a "how-to-build-non-derp-gentoo" receipe
asciilifeform: a default gentoo (to the extent it even makes sense to utter such a thing) built by someone carelessly reading the cookbook will end up with systemd as likely as not
trinque: the nature of gentoo makes removing it a lot easier
asciilifeform: mod6: there's be substance to that if i hadn't just built a 3.18 kernel and full userland into <5MB with no systemd crapolade
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sure. Gentoo is still at its heart Linux. As best as I can tell having lived with it as sole OS for a few months OpenBSD compared to linux is more of an exotica like HP/UX or Slowaris.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> asciilifeform: huh. im not sure what'd that be. i did a lot of testing on amd64, ever saw that error. i did see something similar just now though on openbsd, but i suspect that something totally different because, well, openbsd. << I'll go on the record as saying OpenBSD should not be considered "gold standard" unix in the way gentoo is. OpenBSD goes way out of its way to prevent user from hanging self.
asciilifeform: unrelated, someone needs to take ben_vulpes's rm_rf_upnp patch and turn that into a separate executable that does upnp.
mod6: asciilifeform: huh. im not sure what'd that be. i did a lot of testing on amd64, ever saw that error. i did see something similar just now though on openbsd, but i suspect that something totally different because, well, openbsd.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Seriously. I haven't seen the old lady sockpuppet though in a while
hanbot: BingoBoingo ahaha what a horrorshow. that guy's idiocy is like kudzu.
BingoBoingo: platform specific patch sets may end up being a necessary evil, even if there isn't a full split
mod6: iirc ascii mentioned it, said he'd maintain the pogo project. it's not a horrible idea.
nubbins`: ah, i think it's a bit early for that
mod6: there is a version number in the top of the auto.sh script, which version are you using?
danielpbarron: i think that was me, and it's most likely a problem with my computer
mod6: yes, was tested on a hand full of environments ( as stated in the ADDRESS ): deb6 (64/32), gentoo (64/32), ubuntu 12/14 (64) and apparently macosx too. not sure what you're running into.
mod6: <+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: auto.sh leads to 'util.h:650:8: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a type' on my boxes. << what os/arch?
BingoBoingo: I mean there were discussion on making Kurdistan a thing.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure. A number of people love Dubai while hating the current fallout of the British/French partition of the region after the empire
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah but i don't want a schmuck, and i want him to have ideas.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo eh well let's give him a few years
pete_dushenski: wait, who said that it's a jew dating the jap ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: If he was rich already he'd work his own practice. He's just high income. Still in his first year, hence medicaid clinic with a bunch of doctors who don't know pharmacists are snitches.
pete_dushenski: but a rich one!
BingoBoingo: All together probably half a million dollars and 16 years of higher education time has been flushed by people who don't realize my brother is a boring square.
pete_dushenski: i don't see a lot of them making and taking bets, but they might have bookies.
pete_dushenski: i know a buncha old dudes who watch (and play) tennis
mircea_popescu: a year later you've got dixiebitcoin in your pocket.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, if you're ready to drop 100mn on this, pick some random christian rock band from mobile, make a movie about the lead vocal, send them on tour,
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo on my qntra article there, it looks a bit odd on the front page without a "continue reading" link...
ben_vulpes: a bitcoin messiah'd do pretty well in the south.
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: well, both made it this far. As for technical side, it is an engineering tour de force to build a semi-functional accounting system on mongodb documents and node.js, no doubt
BingoBoingo: BitPay really should have just sprung for a New Years Day bowl game.
BingoBoingo: The great appeal of American Football is exactly a gladiator show. A gladiator show where fighting is disallowed, the competitors wear personal protective gear, and they are charged some how in spite of that still crippling their opposition. It is grand and it appeals across classes.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, bitpay is probably the better in that space, on a purely ops/technical perspectrive.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: I know BitPay is in the South, but... that seems a bit lowbrow...
SquirtPrincess: not like cams on naked its 4.99 a min and i get 50%
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: indeed, now we have cash for a nascar sponsorship! /s
BingoBoingo: Prolly better that the Bitcoin Bowl ends after one game. At least it ended on a very watchable game.
SquirtPrincess: i did call center for a while
mircea_popescu: SquirtPrincess what's house work ? like a maid ?
mircea_popescu: clearly reddit is a legitimate source of news and commentary where actual people post things that legitimately interest them.
mircea_popescu: SquirtPrincess so what DO you do for a living ?
mircea_popescu: this doesn't makle them fit for a wife. just, work for some purposes.
asciilifeform: is a 1kb floppy.
asciilifeform: good with a knife ?
SquirtPrincess: also if you didn;t get it from my name im a Squirter w/ Triple DDDs
asciilifeform: or have a pet read it, whoever
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will recall the discussion was a narrow use case : you print them, you use them etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can do the square one also without a cpu, << not qr as we know it!! read the standard, srsly
mircea_popescu: srsly, off debian ? is it a dream ?
mircea_popescu: Naphex is running a b-a sanctioned webcam thing, maybe give it a look.
SquirtPrincess: a living not really but extra income no doubt
mircea_popescu: so do you make a living at the cam thing ?
mircea_popescu: a hey.
mircea_popescu: is a new department.
ben_vulpes: DEA being very accustomed to "doing things their way", and the IRS wanting a rather tight grip on the bitcoin thing.
pete_dushenski: hm, what other sports can b-a sponsor ? i vote for jai alai
Pierre_Rochard: my view is bitcoin is a macro-economic phenomena. Advertising it makes as much sense as advertising for a housing crisis in 2005. Throwing away money
mircea_popescu: then a week later the thing blew, because the cleanning lady disconnected the power and the data sockets, and reconnected them backwards.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1081143 << this actually happened. once upon a time, to save on money, people working on a very expensive piece of machinery used a power plug slot to connect a data interface. ☝︎
SquirtPrincess: thxs had to find a sharpie that would work uploading now <3
assbot: Designing a Bitcoin system to use in prison | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdSN4E )
mircea_popescu: it is fresh enough, sure. i dun think we really give much of a shit about any particular derps, so kinda wide grate.
mircea_popescu: i guess they read the logs, looked up this new word "roi", had a mindblow.
mircea_popescu: jurov why not ? and no, i said have a bank of them
mircea_popescu: nubbins` have you ever lelled at the circumstance that if one ever sees pgp used like we use it, it's invariably with a ridoinculous line-and-a-half signature ?
assbot: Logged on 31-03-2015 20:23:48; ascii_field: Chillum: barcode reader is simple enough conceptually that it doesn't need a cpu.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1081008 << consider, if you can do the linear without a cpu, you can do the square one also without a cpu, will need a bank of linear readers instead. the reason this is not done is because bitmap interpretation is cheaper ☝︎
SquirtPrincess: great be back in a min <3
mircea_popescu: SquirtPrincess well normally no, because it's just a bodypart rather than you know, you. but at any rate, i'm feeling generous so, put ae654537 on your tits, take a picture, report back.
assbot: Logged on 31-03-2015 20:16:34; chetty: well I guess eulora will get the ultimate test then, mp is planning on installing a copy on such a box soonish
mircea_popescu: you know if you're trying to make a living with this you gotta have them like in a holster. like your business card.
mircea_popescu: how is it not exactly like having ... you know, a router that runs, as Chillum well points out, decade old binaries ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo " This is not akin, for example, to two people using the same model of mobile phone but both having software that is out of date. Rather, the outdated version that both "French Maid" and FORCE (as Nob) used is more of a "signature" given the greater number of versions available." << such a bizarre notion, this.
mircea_popescu: no. previous work = pictures of you nude that you have previously published. this is not a 100x100px icon, and it is not a R rated thing.
mircea_popescu: dawg how hard is it to post a link.
mircea_popescu: not that it's such a big deal to add 2 and 2 and get 4.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1080875 << sounds like a broad rehash of stuff discussed here/on trilema last year or something. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so these people here... they didn't like the set-up where the half week off for easter didn't bridge twoi weekends, so they called a general strike.
jurov: "When Dave paid John 25 MAK for a workout, every inmate in the yard would take out their notebook and jot down the transaction."
assbot: Designing a Bitcoin system to use in prison | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdSN4E )
chetty: well given that the rule of law is no more, no reason not to have a little 'fun'
mircea_popescu: how many of these are there ? (all of them, within reasonable tolerance). how many of these are more than willing to work under a power's blanket, if that power's powerful, rather than their own ? (a bunch)
chetty: a dime?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which bit : the guy made, according to court documents, a very cushy 20k A MONTH. which, let it be noted, is a lot more than media whores a la sam altman actually take home.
ascii_field: (see 'defcon' talk a few yrs ago)
ascii_field: it's a computerized gadget, like pogo
mircea_popescu: yeah, might as well put a rectifier in there if you're going to the trouble of modems and shit
ascii_field: a) chinese