asciilifeform: and will go on the magic cd

asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible ☟︎

asciilifeform digs in logz

asciilifeform: mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml

asciilifeform: (it'll be building, e.g., gossipd, later)

asciilifeform: 'cause it isn't specific to trb

asciilifeform: (rotor is a superset of stator that builds own compiler with - in my latest ver. - musl)

asciilifeform: for the rest, you need rotor or stator (your choice)

asciilifeform: aha so far this is strictly bitcoin

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html

asciilifeform: (nothing ought to)

asciilifeform: see what differs from trb site

asciilifeform: can take the patches & seals from my tarball, which is self-contained

asciilifeform: (a seal, recall, is a signature of a particular patch)

asciilifeform: and vpatches

asciilifeform: the seals

asciilifeform: nono

asciilifeform: trb site ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where did you get the sigs and patches ?

asciilifeform: (at some point i may or may not do a dietlibc and uclibc variant)

asciilifeform: all 3 of my currently operating trb nodes are using a rotor-on-musl build

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: see also http://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349605 << libc. there are multiple usable implementations thereof ☝︎

asciilifeform: anyway drepper was drepper 20 yrs ago. today there are new dreppers. tomorrow there will be yet other dreppers.

asciilifeform: (betcha mircea_popescu does)

asciilifeform: i don't even have my own shooting gallery

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: no but don't let it stop you

asciilifeform: the one i had to kludge around to get 'v' to work reasonably

asciilifeform: iirc he is even responsible for the retardation of gnu diff

asciilifeform: there are drepperisms on your box, whatever it might be, virtually guaranteed.

asciilifeform: with the single most... illustrious record

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: afaik he is the (in so far as is publicly known) ~the~ wrecker

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349603 << wait till pete_dushenski remembers about drepper ☝︎

asciilifeform: then nfi

asciilifeform: i still wanna know what he was smoking when he did that one

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite likely jurov's filename munger

asciilifeform: whereas, e.g., mircea_popescu's site, is neither

asciilifeform: but because it is tedious and repetitive

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349591 << pointedly ~not~ what it is about. see thread re: brezhnev's book. the latter is not loathesome because i cry from failing to live up to brezhnev's imaginary heroism ☝︎

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349578 << this is not as simple as it sounds, there are machine and os braindamages baked in ☝︎

asciilifeform: (the de-glibc-ation)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349603 << l0l pete_dushenski we're talking about ~6 month old newz by now ☝︎

asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes also had one (haven't tried) and punkman also (ditto)

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html << mod6's far spiffier vtron

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000161.html << mine

asciilifeform: mod6's also iirc

asciilifeform: the instructions for mine are in the ml

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349614 << using whose vtron ? ☝︎

asciilifeform back from dentist

asciilifeform does not endorse the crackpottery as written, but the concept is not useless

asciilifeform: ^ rough transl.

asciilifeform: Closing technology leads to technical progress, which in this particular case disrupts the workings of an economic system, upsetting the balance of production and creating structural unemployment. From this point of view, closing technology is both a boon and an evil.'

asciilifeform: The first mention in the scientific literature of such a phenomenon is in K. Marx's discussion regarding the invention of the weaving mill, after which a great many weavers in Great Britain and India perished, having outlived their usefulness. In M. Delyagin's opinion, closing technologies are unprofitable to market economies and are thereby relegated to postindustrial and preindustrial nations.

asciilifeform: to replace an obsolete one, then the subject in question is merely 'disruptive innovation.'

asciilifeform: 'A 'closing technology' - is a category of innovation, where as a result of its advent the need for a resource (including human resource) shrinks. A closing technology leads to the disappearance of an entire profession or branch of industry without creating a similarly resource-intensive profession or industry in its place. If one is speaking only of a replacement of a technology with a new one (or of a field, or market niche)

asciilifeform: not exactly

asciilifeform: i'ma translate, brb

asciilifeform: ah there he is

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349033 << see also >> https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F (no, afaik there is no engl. discussion of this) ☝︎

asciilifeform: (or at least, doing so by default and to an unlimited degree, is)

asciilifeform: incidentally, imho accepting multiple simultaneous pipes from a single ip is a bug

asciilifeform: and can anybody give me a good reason not to DROP all the aws/cloud crapola ?

asciilifeform: this fella is soaking up the lion's share of the bandwidth of my nodez fleet

asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xdv9z/what_is_user_agent_btcwire_and_why_is_it_grabbing << lulzy

asciilifeform: the alchemical matter is of interest to me because i do not (and afaik nobody does) adequately have a handle on the phase transition, if you will, between voodoo and science, of a young field

asciilifeform: and i can't be arsed to get on a plane just for this

asciilifeform: i never get especially far with this, because the good sfuff is generally not on the net

asciilifeform: that is to say, the labours of thinking and honest men, albeit working on pre-scientific priors, from the 'climatologists' of their day

asciilifeform: recently i went on an alchemical archaeology kick, motivated partly by desire to distinguish the 'good drivel' (the kind that actually made meaningful context-reference) from the straight drivel

asciilifeform: i'd guess it'd be boredom

asciilifeform: aha and even serious newtoniana aficionados rarely dwell on his alchemical labours.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: nein

asciilifeform: there is such a thing as the drivel of a cultivated man.

asciilifeform: (by all accounts he never showed the slightest symptom of having read 'his' b00k)

asciilifeform: incl. brezhnev

asciilifeform: virtually nobody read it

asciilifeform: y'know, the mega-ghostwritten backbreaker about how b. won ww2 with own two hands

asciilifeform: like somebody's jacking off into your skull.

asciilifeform: it feels like reading brezhnev's 'Малая Земля'.

asciilifeform: but i'm not convinced that the cultivated had anything to do with the win

asciilifeform: hence boring

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: or worse yet, bill gates.

asciilifeform: ever try reading, e.g., edison ?

asciilifeform: generally i find 'this is why i won' literature insufferably boring.

asciilifeform: (and if not, why not. as a deservedly obscure crackpot i give a fuck, perhaps nobody else does)

asciilifeform: specifically, how far did his theories take him

asciilifeform: nah commercial

asciilifeform: also i am grossly underequipped to even venture to guess to what extent t. is a meatspace success

asciilifeform: at least herr w. merely brags about ~own~ imaginary triumphs

asciilifeform: taleb makes wolfram look sane

asciilifeform: 'whatcha doing in the bowels of the reich then'

asciilifeform: reels it out as necessary

asciilifeform: aha but mircea_popescu has a cable spool for the cock

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: even if he stuck to describing own victories, he'd be readable. but i don't need 40 pages about how well-pedigreed his lebanese family tree

asciilifeform: the man has problems reeling his monster ego even partly onto a spool ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349134 << i like taleb's www and find it hard to disagree with his conclusions, but i simply cannot stomach his books. tried many times. reading his b00kz feels quite like having a titanic atomic cock shoved in your mouth; of such gargantuan proportions that it blots out the sun, moon, stars. ☝︎