asciilifeform: kakobrekla: you've just confessed to having poor hearing

asciilifeform: the other thing is that peltiers are laughably inefficient, and you are then stuck trying to cool the hot end

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: ANY FAN is audible and therefore too loud.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you are breathing in the room, there is water.

asciilifeform: 1990s.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mno. condensation. koolance corp. made this, it sucked balls

asciilifeform: afaik this was never ~commercially~ available, there was - briefly - an aluminum thing from zalman

asciilifeform: but we're talking about half a tonne of cu.

asciilifeform: at any rate, the actual 'non-poorfag' thing... exists. it is a copper hedgehog, looks a little like a substation transformer, with MACHINED cavity to mount the mb, cpu, hdd in. 100% convection.

asciilifeform pictures squad of servants, noses pinched with clothespins, emptying mircea_popescu's box for daily olive change

asciilifeform: srsly, go try it. drown one of your pogos.

asciilifeform: dielectric constant of $liquid differs from that of air.

asciilifeform: recall permeattivity ?

asciilifeform: the other thing that you will find, if you do this, is that... the parasitic capacitance nails you.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: caulk does not thermoconduct well.

asciilifeform: and in what liquid are we to drown the spinning hdds ?

asciilifeform: something like 400 of them on my mb alone

asciilifeform: i'll wait.

asciilifeform: go, caulk the 2mm ones, aha.

asciilifeform: what part of this is unclear.

asciilifeform: electrolytic caps soak, burst

asciilifeform: pc crapola - isn't.

asciilifeform: it worked ok for cray because he ~designed for it~

asciilifeform: a decade ago, even.

asciilifeform: i considered it, yes

asciilifeform: likewise submerged cooling works great for, e.g., mains transformer outdoors, but for 'point source' of heat like cpu, requires circulation pumps, which... noise

asciilifeform: anyway submerging is nontrivial (electrolytic caps soak up your coolant and bloat, then burst) and you can also forget about repairs or upgrade

asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu submerges in fluorinert

asciilifeform: punkman: seems like you are describing a tv set ?

asciilifeform: just to reduce noise

asciilifeform: (iirc this is in the logz) i DID experiment with water, for years

asciilifeform: always hated it.

asciilifeform: fucking hate the noise.

asciilifeform: i'd throw those out also if i could.

asciilifeform: i will NOT use a fanned gpu. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha

asciilifeform: but i don't have one, it is my understanding that you cannot drive it with a fanless gpu

asciilifeform: there are already several vendors supplying these

asciilifeform: jurov: ever see the '5k' panels ?

asciilifeform: the main problem with the cheap eizos is the not-nearly-enough-pixels thing, imho

asciilifeform: it VISIBLY FLICKERS

asciilifeform: punkman: some people (incl. me) can SEE the dither buzz

asciilifeform: incl. crapple

asciilifeform: the 'poor' eizos still beat the living shit out of everything you see in a konsooomer electronics shop

asciilifeform: hey if they work for him...

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376472 << it's a so-so panel, you're paying for the form factor (iirc the squares are used in airport control) ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit

asciilifeform: punkman: it is absolutely SOP. normally the extra bits are only available for the gamma corrector, as the link to the panel is strictly 8 per channel

asciilifeform: but certainly not city subways

asciilifeform: in usa, ~some~ LONG-range (e.g., dc to boston) have'em

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376481 << where's that? tokyo ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: punkman: i have a 'modern' one here in this array and it does not 6bit, but ~does~ pwm flicker

asciilifeform: punkman: pretty sure that it's begun to.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski you ~do~ realize you bought the 'poorfag' non-'colouredge' or 'radiforce' eizos, right ? the 120dpi 2008-era-panel-but-made-2016-cheapo-6bit-dac ones ?

asciilifeform: not yet.

asciilifeform: not all.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l yes

asciilifeform: l0l!!

asciilifeform was expecting worse

asciilifeform: relates somehow ?

asciilifeform: and everywhere !

asciilifeform: mod6: i think he works here !

asciilifeform: interestingly the last few towers i slaved in had a peculiar tradition, male toilet would have a normal door, female - locked

asciilifeform: card AND pw

asciilifeform: trinque: this is one

asciilifeform: lulzies

asciilifeform: (gilded doorknobs, etc)

asciilifeform: has the flavour of faux luxury that tends to go with it, too

asciilifeform: tower is mostly lawyers iirc.

asciilifeform: it is legal with the magic lock that only opens from inside.

asciilifeform: (they only ever open from the inside)

asciilifeform: stairs locked.

asciilifeform: 'open it.' 'sir, this is a SEEEK0000R3 building!111' 'i work here.' 'you need a key!111' 'i can call the boss, want to make a new friend ?' ~grunt turns magic key in the lift~

asciilifeform: because... holiday

asciilifeform: had to talk the guard into opening it

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376256 << so i discovered that the lift this morning only goes to nth floor and no higher ($firm is on n+1th) ☝︎

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA9B6-s6r7Y

asciilifeform cannot think of 'buttle' without thinking of the film 'brazil'

asciilifeform: is starbux Officially licensed as 'money transmitter' ?!!!11111

asciilifeform: and three weeks from cellmate shrem

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: originally, ford

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: take it to the shooting field and shoot it.

asciilifeform: ick

asciilifeform: (until ~i'm~ dead, that is. chassis cannot die)

asciilifeform: will prolly keep using it until dead

asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure i have the last steel pc chassis here (not counting rackmounts, i do not like them in residential quarters because of the fans)

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: (can you even 'buy pc' any more ?)

asciilifeform: that fella who used zaporozhets chassis and toyota engine also 'only bought case'

asciilifeform: at any rate i will buy a pc made in argentina some time after i buy a ru car.

asciilifeform: (... have you ~looked~ inside the ps!)

asciilifeform: i'm surprised your vendor did not also roll his own ps, out of an old soviet shaver or something

asciilifeform: (the cases of which were solid steel, with tempest mesh - copper, gilded fingers! on all contact interfaces, pure golden toilet)

asciilifeform: with the possible exception of my pa-risc and sgi boxen

asciilifeform: i don't think i have ever seen one that was not chinese to the hilt

asciilifeform: who even makes a pc case locally

asciilifeform: what prevented the ps from being in the normal human place ?

asciilifeform: and why.

asciilifeform: in all srs i have no idea where that came from