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williamdunne: Thought they were derpy so wanted to discuss it on
a public forum
☟︎ ben_vulpes: and what world is this where scammers take cash to build out
a model and then verify it with bureaucrats?
Landgull: My guess is, you pay
a bureaucrat to tell you that your made up numbers look like his made up numbers.
Landgull: Well, they wanted 150k for
a stress test.
Landgull: I think they should take the 150k, buy
a cessna, and ferry people around as
a social enterprise.
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Not just airplanes,
a whole airport
flyplymouth: media@flyplymouth.com drop me
a line and I'll connect you.
trinque: I haven't had to hit it with
a wrench in
a bit
williamdunne: flyplymouth:
A bond is something that people with actual money can get behind
Landgull: Dude, if you don't have
a good answer, you're
a lot better off just admitting it and asking for advice. Not just with finance, but in life as
a whole.
flyplymouth: divdends are not the only way to generate
a return. Bonds / Investment Agreements.
flyplymouth: why would
a billionaire invest in an airport? If they want to develop and grow Plymouth whilst also generating
a good return. Recent studies from aviation industry have said that Plymouth Airport could add 240 jobs to local economy and £20m
a year to wider economy. It also helps having one of the largest naval bases in Europe in Plymouth, which attracts manufacturers and business to visit the area
williamdunne: "Mr Dawson said it was
a Budget for everyone, that the prices of food and fuel had come down, and that thanks to the Budget he yesterday signed off
a deal with
a European country to build factories.
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for Landgull with note: New blood
Landgull: You need to have
a better risk-adjusted return than 1, or
a better cause than 2.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: I doubt Chris Dawson is too bothered about having to go to London to catch
a flight
Landgull: Plymouth, what people are asking you is why
a billionare would rather put his money with you than either 1) putting it in some blue-chip stock, or 2) directly giving it to
a charity that they care about.
flyplymouth: If you are
a billionaire, then there are options for private investment.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: Its not about if you're legally allowed to do it, its more I'm
a billionaire, why the fuck do I give you money for
a social program? While it can work with
a small homeless shelter, you're talking about an airport. Not like there is one landlord who owns half of Plymouth and the surrounding area who wants to increase property values.
williamdunne: trinque: There are
a couple of legal structures for it, like
a community corporation or something of similar name
mircea_popescu: flyplymouth so let me see if i understand. you're trying to get
a small sum together to pay for various studies that then you can turn around and give the british government which will spend
a lot of its own money to do the thing you came up with ?
trinque: does "social enterprise" have
a UK legal definition?
flyplymouth: If you are using your own money to reopen the airport, you can just go ahead and open it. But to access money which is not repayable, whether it from Government or otherwise, they have to see that it stacks up over the long term and importantly that it has
a wider benefit to the local / regional economy
williamdunne: flyplymouth: And do you not think you could attract some actual investment if this wasn't
a social enterprise?
flyplymouth: Before you can attract airlines you need to demonstrate passenger demand. There are models used around the UK which almost charter planes to use as an airline. If you have demand / good seat occupancy it works well. This happens in
a lot of airports around the UK but planes are badged with other airlines.
flyplymouth: In aviation terms, they will review passenger journeys to see how many people travelled from Plymouth to the destinations, they will look at plane types and prices paid and give you
a report back on whether your calculations make sense.
williamdunne: More like an airport with
a pet airline I think
williamdunne thinks bringing
a business plan here is the best stress test available
williamdunne: flyplymouth: Not sure how that works, so I won't comment. Anyhow. How do you stress test
a business plan?
mircea_popescu: i still don't understand what stress testing
a business plan involves.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: Key cities in.... UK or abroad? Tourism isn't much of
a concern
flyplymouth: The business model is completey different from Exeter. To be fair Exeter do quite
a good job for its size. We'll be smaller planes as
a 'connecting airport' so you won't initially get many holiday destinations but it would connect into key cities and hubs.
mircea_popescu: 64/32 bit linux later for the noobs, but give sane people
a chance to make their stuff first.
flyplymouth: Ha ha. Social Enterprises take
a lot of rap.
williamdunne: Seems unlikely that someone who wants to run
a social-enterprise is qualified to do anything more than make coffee
trinque: and then google chrome ships
a diddled gpg plugin
trinque: what they don't have
a database now?
trinque: so facebook is
a keyserver now
williamdunne:
A new study has officially proved that French are smelly and Dutch, Germans and Scandinavians are the cleanest ones."
☟︎ ascii_field: jurov: sure. i was trying to point out that the answer 'well firewall it off' is not
a pill against this kind of thing
williamdunne: Couldn't this be partially solved with
a rather stringent firewall policy (off-machine ofc)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it's
a mandatory usg rapehole; the remote admin thing is just
a way to squeeze
a bit of marketing juice out of it, since it is already there
mircea_popescu: "let's make web interface for luser home routers
a thing for servers"
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: fresh meat bitcoind hacker
shinohai: Just
a random user that has chosen his side on this silly BS increase war.
williamdunne: They're square-jerking circular-pitchforks in the middle of
a Block Chain authenticated cluster-chain
BingoBoingo: nah, they are pitchfuckingforks into
a clustermob.
thestringpuller: the redditards are clusterfucking into
a pitchfork mob now?!?
trinque: Landgull: dunno about everything and their cat, but putting cryptographic hashes in the blockchain is
a marvelous idea
Landgull: So why is it that all of the sudden I'm hearing about people wanting to put everything and their cat in the blockchain? Is it actually
a good idea, or is it just
a way to attack/overwhelm the network?
Landgull: At any rate, I've been reading the logs for
a bit and I like the kind of discussion that seems to happen in here, so I thought I'd say hi.
Landgull: Well sure, but kids don't waste their time on things they don't care about. You don't see them pulling pigtails because they think
a girl is ugly.
Landgull: Hey, I didn't say he was right - just that someone with
a botnet thinks he's right.
Landgull: Thanks. So is someone seriously trying to DDOS
a philosophy blog?
jurov: "This is to certify that any person with
a WoT account in assbot's L2 list that can show proof their property was confiscated through the direct or indirect workings of the soi-dissant "Executive Order" issued April 1st, 2015 by the criminal group illegally misidentifying itself as "government of the United States" will receive
a 1 (one) Bitcoin compensation on the spot
shinohai: Twas
a theoretical question, supposing the original network is spammed/compromised.
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 09:40:31; cazalla: prob isn't working class people buying it but the chinese..
a lot of foreign investment of aussie housing is coming from china past few years, thought is that they dont mind paying huge premiums just to get their money outta there
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 09:10:39; punkman: asciilifeform: decimation: if you didn't verify the entire blockchain from end to end, you aren't
a node! << this will be fun to do because of all the different openssl versions that have shat on the blockchain. iirc the thing skips verification of whole blocks and then relies on verifying
a single (checkpoint) block.
cazalla: prob isn't working class people buying it but the chinese..
a lot of foreign investment of aussie housing is coming from china past few years, thought is that they dont mind paying huge premiums just to get their money outta there
☟︎ BingoBoingo: In this part of USia
a freestanding house of that size would more prominently be advertsising... vast tracts of land...
punkman: asciilifeform: decimation: if you didn't verify the entire blockchain from end to end, you aren't
a node! << this will be fun to do because of all the different openssl versions that have shat on the blockchain. iirc the thing skips verification of whole blocks and then relies on verifying
a single (checkpoint) block.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Well, it was just the difficulty cycling. For
a while it was manageable, but eventually swings were uncontainable
chalbersma: Yes at the time they had
a big problem with the network effect. Difficulty had skyrocketed because of some market movement that made it (temporarily) more profitable to mine than bitcoin.
chalbersma: Think is I don't think that anybody is actually using ATC P2Pool implementation anymore. The contract for the build had 1 month of runtime and then MP and Ragnar I believe ran the p2pool node for
a while. But ATC didn't seem to catch on that much.
chalbersma: So with P2Pool the idea is that you will run
a mining "pool" that share's it's load with other mining "pools". There
a cryptographic chain keeping track of work so that you can't cheat or mine
a block and then keep it. So in the end instead of having one centralized plae where all the mining work is kept you get the benefits of the pool with bitcoin like decentralization.
liquidassets: chalbersma mining is foreign to me, do you make the nodes? how do you become
a client?
liquidassets: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 leader of men, helped me get started with gpg, knows how to write
a headline!
gribble: Error: 'leader' is not
a valid integer.
liquidassets: ;;rate BingoBoingo leader of men, helped me get started with gpg, knows how to write
a headline!
mircea_popescu: decimation the jet is merely
a derivative work off hobbysts stuff
mircea_popescu: "In
a short notice published last month, the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) announced it was retiring
a number of Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS) because they were obsolete. Notably, that list of retirements includes FIPS-185."
decimation: that's
a point, but there's
a world of difference between
a flying bicycle and
a fancy jet
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 02:54:08; asciilifeform: imho one of the most perplexing things about 'anti-bitcoin' agitators is how they all - to
a man - miss the most cogent argument against bitcoin: it being, how it is implemented
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149352 on one hand, they're talking to
a crowd, and for that particular crowd talking sense means you lose. why the fuck they imagine against plainly obvious reality that it still matters or can help them is besides the point here. on the other hand, they don't want to help. formulating cogent criticisms is helping.
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