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mircea_popescu: i don't think you exactly understand how envy that wears a coat and hides in the hallways works.
asciilifeform: also i predicted a very different machine, that would include the chinese donor 'milking' box in the next room
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you not getting enough fluid ? :D << I survived log catch up time
nubbins`: i gotta pastebin my public key?
nubbins`: man i'm outta touch w/ this new deedbot
nubbins`: i'm gonna need babysitting, not hosting ;D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't you predict that someone would manufacture automatic impregnatrons ? i distinctly recall an essay concerning such
hanbot: deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CmWcr0iw
hanbot: .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CmWcr0iw
trinque: jurov: I have a pogo here
trinque: jurov: the bot part I think I will
nubbins`: prob drinks the paint too, i mean, that 'clava doesn't even fit him! it's like 3x too big!
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd say that man drinks the 190 proof
mircea_popescu: jurov i think he is on aws already
jurov: i see
asciilifeform: i'd rather not put a multigig turd on my puny hostatron
trinque: and I don't know what that registry is
trinque: I don't run whatever URL that is
mircea_popescu: i have put plenty of ope, as you may well be aware of from unrelatedlandia.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu> but i never put any serious effort into electrical engineering! << said the chap with his own bitcoind running on soviet trinary comp
mircea_popescu: i was going to, but then i got caught in conversation!
mircea_popescu: but then I GOT CAUGHT IN A BA CONVO
mircea_popescu: but i never put any serious effort into electrical engineering!
mircea_popescu: and honestly, i should be the king noob here.
mircea_popescu: apparently. EVEN I!!!! had actually seen the thing used.
ben_vulpes: every 2 lines i have to hare off to the internet - "buildroot" "qemu"
jurov: BingoBoingo: interested in "Weekly #b-a"? i need at least someting useful to come out of this
jurov: damn, i realized took me half day to get through last 24h logs
punkman: this girl I know moved to germany to work at some tech company, 800eur salary for first 2 years or something.
asciilifeform: i remember those.
asciilifeform: last i checked
nubbins`: asciilifeform i wonder how well it works w/ modern tvs
asciilifeform: i wouldn't. fucking hate ntsc and 60hz flicker
nubbins`: i know i'd sure as fuck rather play Super Spike V-Ball on an actual NES
asciilifeform: i think everyone here knows what an emulator is
nubbins`: HAHA i was about to.
asciilifeform: (it supports other, more realistic archs too, which i actually forgot because never tried)
asciilifeform: if using gxemul, i was speaking specifically of http://gxemul.sourceforge.net/gxemul-stable/doc/machines/machine_testmips.html
nubbins`: <+nubbins`> i'll be afk-ish, one last color to lay down on these business cards
asciilifeform: jurov: i can't say i'm creaming my pants with excitement over the idea of doing this. but so far the alternatives have been disappointing
jurov: so i'm not very keen on this
nubbins`: i'll be afk-ish, one last color to lay down on these business cards
asciilifeform: i am also open to using a bsd of one kind or another
nubbins`: i do feel that we'll run into precisely the same issues as we're having with our current gentoo installs
nubbins`: i'm assuming the built environments can be swapped around from person to person?
nubbins`: based on this, i think qemu is the third choice
nubbins`: i fear this'll add complexity from the start because you won't know if the cross-compile is failing because it's a cross-compile or because the code's borked
nubbins`: i wouldn't ascribe "stuck" to having clone-able metal available
mod6: i dont want to rely on an emulator if possible. i'd like to have: a URL to an ISO of gentoo that's "acceptable", a script that pulls down tar balls of required tools and builds them
asciilifeform: i use gxemul in cardano work
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have used it for dev work for many years.
asciilifeform: given that i do not especially feel like publishing the entire contents of my disk, nor could you replicate my machine easily (most of the components are no longer produced) - the next best thing is to somehow create an equivalent
mod6: ok. im not sure if we have a way forward on this project. or if there is, I don't know what it is.
asciilifeform: mod6: i want a script that will build all of the "accepted"/"blessed" versions << notice that this is where we were with bitcoind ?
asciilifeform: mod6: say i publish a recipe for constructing said image (runs on, e.g., qemu-system-mipsel). and then you do it, and we learn that your disk image differs from mine which differs from nubbins` which differs from mircea_popescu's etc
mod6: i want a script that will build all of the "accepted"/"blessed" versions of the things it needs; gcc, etc, etc, etc.
mod6: i don't want a binary.
asciilifeform: try to understand why i am hesitant to put out a binary image for folks to run
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i'd rather have something that isn't as dependent on pc
mod6: Ok, so say that you have installed via offical docs, bla bla bla. Ok, then our release doesn't work. But we need to fix defects, and I refuse to have this happen going forward. So we need something repeatable.
mod6: What I was hoping for is maybe a build script. Would that be muti-gig?
asciilifeform: mod6: i suggested this some time near day 1 if anyone recalls
nubbins`: i lel'd
asciilifeform: that is, i should not have to download any binaries.
asciilifeform: general rule is that i should be able to at least obtain the build target using -the compilers i presently have- and a set of sourceballs.
nubbins`: asciilifeform then i'd mention again that i built it on POSIX-compliant os
mod6: I also seem to recall, and maybe I should dig for it, someone else built for gentoo before anyone was discussing 32bit.
asciilifeform: what if i said 'posix'
mod6: yeah, I believe I did. But I can't find a build log for it.
nubbins`: i know nothing about aws, can you pull an image of that machine down locally?
mod6: <+nubbins`> what *has* 0.5.3.1 worked on so far? debian, darwin, that it? << what's blowing my mind is why i was able to build just fine on aws Gentoo AMI. Unless it was packed full of stuff in there that we don't want to begin with. Which must be the case.
thestringpuller: no. i'm going to have to cancel for family reasons related to finance
ben_vulpes: oh yeah. i did a continuous integration thinger for an android project recently.
jurov: (context: i was hired to patch android system. had to create nigbuntu lxc container for its monstrous build system)
nubbins`: i don't know nearly enough about gcc to be of much further use atm
asciilifeform: i just can't get over the lulziness of usg proclaiming that stealing/extorting from an outlaw constitutes 'theft of government property'
nubbins`: incidentally i tried a non-static build of openssl, auto.sh barfs w/ same error
nubbins`: i think the openssl build has some problems
nubbins`: anyway i gave said idiot the boot
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> because, y'know, if you lost your keys three days ago, you should come home drunk to a locked house at 3:30am ..with no plan << http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-04-2015#1083000 >> what do you suppose i was talking about.
asciilifeform: What You Need to Know About the Unsealed Silk Road Docket << i do so hate these 'what you need to know' titles. implication is that no serious person would need to know anything else
nubbins`: ugh i need lunch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... dude what the fuck is so very convenient about all the rotor bs i dunno << short keys
nubbins`: i'll pm my email password
funkenstein_: nubbins i can hold the private key for you don't worry
mod6: i thought everyone wanted to create a common gentoo configuration.
nubbins`: i know qemu was bandied about in the past
nubbins`: after renaming all int32_t to boost::int32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A2M3kkZL
nubbins`: after renaming all uint32_t to boost::uint32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=D7XGyGna
nubbins`: with "-std=c++03" from portatronic patch removed: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=50XwKjsy (precisely the same as before patching)
nubbins`: with both of alf's patches applied: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7qRa7CnL
nubbins`: if i manually move the headers over, back to uint32_t errors: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=taiiWaYc
nubbins`: build failed on gentoo using gcc-4.4.7: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qhb7ZT3x
nubbins`: well, i'd like to believe this is all an illusion and i'll eventually wake up, my 16-year-old self, sweating through the mattress in a fever dream
lobbes: I'd like to believe if I just focus on myself and amass enough wealth I can weasel my way through time
nubbins`: no, but i'll leave the other options for you to figure out
lobbes: hmm I see what you mean
nubbins`: i.e. they care enough to share a link
lobbes: yes yes, I deserve that
nubbins`: <+lobbes> I posted obamaz magic decree to my facebook. Quite expectedly, no one cares. <<< no one, including you