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mircea_popescu: if you can do that, comandeer a server.
asciilifeform: one ought to be able to drop pogos on a dumb corp's net
asciilifeform: i.e. a sad joke
asciilifeform: and if it has to be blessed with the magical breath of life of intelligence every time mains power flickers, it is a proverbial 'assembly line requiring ph.d.s' to borrow from al schwartz
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> you know i'm not even convinced a node *should* be stood up without human intervention. << this may be true.
asciilifeform: there is not actually a way out of this
decimation: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/onwire.html The symmetric modes operate using a sequence of rounds, each consisting of a transmit packet followed by a receive packet, but either of both of these packets could be lost. A round is correct if both packets are correctly received. In order to verify correctness of the protocol, it is necessary to prove a liveness assertion; that is, the protocol always yields a correct round even if after
asciilifeform: it is possible to count the pulses of a pulsar, of cesium atom, of quartz, etc
asciilifeform: comparing a subset of your field of vision with the rest does nothing against the latter.
asciilifeform: try to grasp why political time is a fiction
asciilifeform: arse-to-mouth is a strictly fact-of thing
decimation: ben_vulpes: it seemed that there was some some concensus around the idea of randomly selecting a small set of ntp servers out of a large pre-defined set
ben_vulpes: well "should" is a strong word
ben_vulpes: you know i'm not even convinced a node *should* be stood up without human intervention.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for the same reason pulling one's cock doesn't work as a means of flight
mats: i set up a raid0 with two SSDs
Vexual: on eny given day you might meet a horny marine biologist
Vexual: 50s at aussie long is firmly in a world of shit
Vexual: fuck thats a long way north
Vexual: if you have a printer
funkenstein_: for longitude, i believe there is a book by sobel or something
asciilifeform: don't give much of a shit any more
asciilifeform: isn't that the fella who got 'beaten to death by accident' in a johannesburg police station ?
mats: thats a lot of america
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Schumer said a federal law requires toy or imitation guns to feature a highly visible orange mark at the end of the barrel to identify them as harmless. Since the phone case does not have the marker, he said, he would work with customs officials to block its import and sale.' << l0l! srsly?
asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/08/us/gun-shaped-iphone-case-is-a-terrible-idea-police-officials-warn.html << in other lulz
asciilifeform wonders if they recycled map of communists from '50s or bothered to make a new one
decimation: I guess it would be a useful as the map that nyt ran which indicated the density of racists over usa
decimation: but that would only capture a portion - it would exclude the portion magicked into existance by banks
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 13:57:29; asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.'
decimation: the question is: how much of the money that is 'freshly printed' by the fed or a bank part of the wash dc bid?
decimation: I suspect that problem wouldn't be as pronounced with a hard-banking hard currency
trinque: to be fair, west virginia is a shithole
decimation: everyone in your meatwot could probably get a better deal if they lived somewhere cheaper
decimation: asciilifeform: it strikes me that your choice of location is to some degree a 'prisoner's dilemma'.
asciilifeform: anybody got a box running i2p?
williamdunne: asciilifeform: I'd presume a marketplace on i2p
williamdunne: It seems to be a default option, not a personal accusation
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: And this is what temps me to fuck with running an electrum server. To run a private block explorer accountable only to me when it barfs
williamdunne for a while no longer has to worry about getting laid
BingoBoingo: No, example. Drinking at the bar with some friends. One fire up "Tinder" girl with nice pictures takes a cab across the mississippi river and walk into the bar. Diameter more than half her height. Recognizes friend, friend has no idea who she is.
williamdunne: funkenstein_: In his defence, the litecoin solution actually seemed like a pretty good way to handle it
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Here the pic/reality discrepancy is so bad in a lot of cases it is like a fat person killed a normal with similar hair and started living their life.
funkenstein_: seemingly a PID controller would be best for difficulty adjustment, however simplicity is a stronger argument
asciilifeform: (just need to time a block interval)
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Not at all, bitch needs to stop being a Ham.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1192570 << at the risk of 'fleischmanning', i will say a little about the concept even though i am not yet done working it out ☝︎
danielpbarron: it's kinda tricky getting them open. I had to scuff up a credit card and yeah some of the inner clips got cracked
ben_vulpes: now, as you say, interested parties could find a rate for diddled pogos.
ben_vulpes: well clearly. just making a joke.
funkenstein_: well I think asciilifeform is formulating a more specific attack so that should be interesting
funkenstein_: it's basically a jury duty scenario, you found a block, do your best to tell us what time it is
funkenstein_: the quantity the a miner needs to report is the time since the last difficulty change
funkenstein_: it's a prototype, the code might need some cleaning up
funkenstein_: i've heard tell of a distributed clock that might meet your needs
williamdunne: I did a judging thing at teh loebner prize before. Was pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: noit a bad way to burn time, this assay.
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191982 <-- i thought she was going to jump back into jupiter's head a few days ago.. off on her merry way again ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well ideal in what sense ? it's very unideal for his idea of timekeeping, because it proves (what we already knew) : time is meaningless and political time conventional, and all sorts of nutty fashions can endure a long time. ie, 350k blocks in this case.
decimation: you could fit a curve instead of line over a given interval
mircea_popescu: jurov that's a pretty weird graph considering the gaps aren't even same size o.O
mircea_popescu: it would appear we are no less than a year into the future.
decimation: it would take a few difficulty inervals
decimation: pogo can keep time by comparing its clock to the block discovery interval, averaging over a long period
mircea_popescu: williamdunne it's a reference.
mircea_popescu: she says sure, she's going for a cup of coffee. i ask where, she says "tell your guy to find out"
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm not sure what you are thinking, but my idea is to use the 10 minute block time as a noisy oscillator
mircea_popescu: well, the most famous and i guess exemplare case is, mp stops car, tells shadow : follow that girl. guy gets an address, mp gets a phone number, talks to puzzled woman. explains that he had her stalked, would she like to have a cup of coffee
mats: lose a shitload of weight, gain eight digits in your bank
mircea_popescu: they truely believe it is a natural truth that their existence is all that's needed.
mircea_popescu: in that photo is a mechanical pear
mircea_popescu: i dunno there's a sadder indictment of the decaying west.
mod6: ( i patched in ascii's dump/eat block as well, but got a bunch of errors I didn't get last time ): http://dpaste.com/0C67TTN.txt
trinque: http://www.thelocal.de/20150707/german-missiles-taken-over-by-hackers << next war will start and end in a flash
shinohai passes a glass of his Absinthe to asciilifeform
trinque: having merely dabbled in german, there seems to be a preciseness or specificity to it
shinohai: I'm ok with Spanish. Could probably carry on a convo though it has been a while/
williamdunne notably did qualify for a non-state school scholarship at a language school, after passing the aptitude tests. Further highlighting the failure of state education
williamdunne: I had compulsory German and French lessons for 4 years in state education. Went about as well as expected. My entire vocabulary in both languages is "Bonjour", "Guten Tag", "Ich habe ein gross hose schlange", and "Ich bin zwolf jahre alt", along with a few words of no use on their own
williamdunne currently has a neck that looks like Cheetah fur, lovely patterned bruising
trinque: there's a sort of pudgy, sunken-eyed, pasty-white I invariably associate with "hide yo kids"
trinque: why do all the chimos have a certain look about them?
mod6: read your readme... so yeah, months and months ago I was able to build a dynamic bitcoind on openbsd, but that was the exact issue after statically linked: seg fault.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> phf: i built on 5.6 but I can't seem to get mine to be be statically built :( << First thing to understand about OpenBSD is that it is a weird unix. Not as weird as Linux, but differently weird.
phf: BingoBoingo: that's a good idea, i decided to punt on it, because i don't fully understand the reasoning behind the whole 1.0.1g freeze
mod6: it was from a patch, but not from the email you just sent in...
BingoBoingo: But the whole max locks thing is a mess
phf: BingoBoingo: have you tried making static build on openbsd? i seem to recall you were running a bunch of openbsd boxes
BingoBoingo: Yeah, it was necessary to keep up with 0.8 normal. May need a still bigger boost for reorgs though.
shinohai: I have a stator build working, just waiting on my pogo to get here first. Using the 0.5.3 RELEASE on my shell
shinohai: I'll give that a shot mod6, been using -connect
trinque: better yet, rather than death, a life of moving heavy objects
trinque: these earth humans need a ritual which tests for mindless imitation in children
trinque: A FUCKING VM FOR A STATIC HTML GENERATOR
trinque: just a radar blip
ascii_field: this is the output of a proggy that can take any cpp tree ?
trinque: that's a virtual method
danielpbarron: in 2010 a very similar conversation was being had over on the forum
ascii_field: no one writes code for nintendo ~on~ a nintendo
ascii_field: it is possible to develop for winblows and remain sane if you treat it like a 'nintendo'