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asciilifeform would bet that it was
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo is brazil signatory to the obummer tax stoolie treaty ?
asciilifeform: lolwat that's outrageous
BingoBoingo: Well, it is an attraction. Lumped together with India, China, and Russia as BRIC. Seems a strong winner on the not NATO front.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo 0 chances of that. off the entire continent, the only functional sovereign is brazil. the whole rest of spanish speaking dorks can barely sum together to 2/3 of ye olde kingdom
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729628 << i expect more a case of english speaking mortodifame imagines he's white because nobody told him otherwise. ☝︎
AndreaGuzman: ya tengo clave dame Bitcoin shinohai :P
mircea_popescu: AndreaGuzman como te gustan los eeuu ?
mircea_popescu: !!rate AndreaGuzman 1 if she breaks anything, send shinohai the bill :D
mircea_popescu: AndreaGuzman that's the low price.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:24 mircea_popescu: diana_coman in this vein was lulzy thing at lesbian club, chick is "i have no idea why i'm getting so drunk ?!?" "you keep drinking" "what ?! it suddenly hit me like... wtf." "you keep drinking." "what do you mean ?"
AndreaGuzman: wau tanto para Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo fwiw, a ro corp is about 80 bux or such. wtf 800 dollars to open a corp in brazil, what do they take themselves for ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 21:34 ben_vulpes: > the substantive point is that we do not, at present, have a theory of inflation dynamics that works sufficiently well to be of use for the business of real-time monetary policy-making
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729594 << "we don't at this point have a sufficiently palatable whitewash of inflation ; or for that matter even any statement that doesn't reduce to how the best course would be for us to eat shit and die. so in preference of that, we'll just pretend ignorance, because such a course totally works and everything". ☝︎
AndreaGuzman: si todo bien BingoBoingo lol
BingoBoingo: And here are numbers from the red tape concierge service: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/maXM2/?raw=true
asciilifeform: for so long as it is verboten to include the screamingly obvious printolade-via-fractionalreserve thing, yes, can have as many epicycles as they feel like
ben_vulpes: > the substantive point is that we do not, at present, have a theory of inflation dynamics that works sufficiently well to be of use for the business of real-time monetary policy-making ☟︎
BingoBoingo: and Making Asia China Again means those weird extremist gentile followers of the late Jew King are a national security threat
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the chinese are also trying, what with their empty towns and whatnot. << Oh, China just held a big presser on Sinicizing region and Make Asia China Again
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 19:34 mircea_popescu: during the communist time, the "repartitie" (approx, warrant) was a major instrument of social control. basically : to dwell anywhere, you had to get a job there. to get the job, you had to a) go to school and then, be ... sent to it, ie "destined", repartizat.
BingoBoingo: Oh my, much lawgs and numbers to digest this evening
mircea_popescu: the bucharest "bourgeois economic studies" thing, there's a dozen or so.
mircea_popescu: yes. there were strong attractors, the kalash factory, the cluj/bucharest/brasov/iassi ITCs etc.
diana_coman: for as long as there was a person who did precisely that
diana_coman: onth there were pockets of "I'll hold onto whatever good engineers I get" a la IAR ghimbav
diana_coman: obv,unless pcr to move to town in max 2 years or something
mircea_popescu: (they also got dar-al-salaam and so on, of course, tirgoviste ended up shipped there as engineers much in the way rahovei got exported to afghanistan a coupla decades later)
diana_coman: well, as far as I know from older people it was mainly either permanent rural shithole or otherwise shitty temporary mini-jobs in some town
mircea_popescu: diana_coman amusingly, they rarely got them, either. they got rural shitholes a la you know, georghe-gheorghiu-dej or vulcan or w/e the fuck jewels of socialism that no longer exist.
mircea_popescu: 90s brought a lot of georgians into moscwo, but this very unrelatedly to stalin's patrilinearity, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: not so in southern moldavia ; rural dobrogea ; eastern old kingdom (oltenia etc). which is how bucharest ended up massively overrepresenting the olteni (ceausescu himself was from a village there)
mircea_popescu: so in this sense there's a ready measure, in the proper-est term : the black market value of the country capital warrant was under the black market value of the local capital warrant in most places.
mircea_popescu: these were an important item therefore, and obviously urban such sought in preference of rural. except, in general people from cluj wanted one in cluj or else you know, turda, rather than the (nominally, at least) more valuable bucharest one.
mircea_popescu: during the communist time, the "repartitie" (approx, warrant) was a major instrument of social control. basically : to dwell anywhere, you had to get a job there. to get the job, you had to a) go to school and then, be ... sent to it, ie "destined", repartizat. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and the moldavians even put it in writing, "shit-eating faces like they eat nothing but fungus". also cca 1850.
mircea_popescu: this is not exactly so. the extremely snot-nosed transylvanians didn't want to move there in 1850, either.
asciilifeform: ro is blessed with a capital that nobody wants to live in because hat man wrecked it and filled with hruschebas
mircea_popescu: contrary to the socialist delusions, papica is not the pill.
mircea_popescu: the chinese are also trying, what with their empty towns and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: im sure htey're trying.
diana_coman: in any case and fwiw since I happen to know this tidbit, gospodin Medvedev did open (and I don't mean cutting the red tape sort of open but rather pouring the money & bringing in people from abroad sort of open) tam-tam big uni and all that in Tatarstan some years ago already rather than next to Moscow and I seriously doubt it was *not* part of a wider-range development plan
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform hasn’t even ~been~ to yeltsinized ru...
diana_coman: I don't know enough on RU to say much at that level really so...
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it is said the lord of the jews has a special foible for idiots. at least so discovered the current (jesuit) pope.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. i hold that the situation is not similar in ru and ro ; neither the evolution / trends. but this will have to be as first hand word of god, because there's no better available.
diana_coman: so then, official statistics in ro are worse than non-existant, what
diana_coman: well, remember I had to scrap the bac data and then the ministry statisticians were getting it on the sly from my blog?
mircea_popescu: then again, these are the same people who couldn't produce a count of suines in the country
mircea_popescu: dude the official romanian statistics are worthless.
asciilifeform: eh in su times plenty of dispersion, school of paratrooper was in kaunis, say
mircea_popescu: well now ima have to look at the demographic geography of it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh now; by the same token as the maps: population+growth in population
diana_coman: asciilifeform, typical idiot *runs* like crazy away from here even if he somehow stumbles in for a second (he'll try hard not to though as it's cheaper on his own self-esteem and whatnot)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman depends how you count ; but in any meaningful sense bucharest is a minor player to cluj, brasov et co.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu Bucharest is also some 6 times if not more the size of next town in ro, isn't it? not sure if that says much though in itself
mircea_popescu: typical idiot can't get in here much like typical lamb can't eat tatched roofing.
asciilifeform: because typical idjit is a nevertiring chatterbox in meatspace
asciilifeform: i still find this a puzzle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. there may never be, actually, seeing how the vast majority of those who stumble in are dumb in the classical sense, ie, mute.
mircea_popescu: but the similarity is there : we don't yet get that many rss links to need to build a more complicated pipe ; just as we don't yet get that many new speakers so as to need to build a skirt there either.
asciilifeform: to make such a thing urgent itch
asciilifeform: there isn’t , i suspect, even 1% of the people, or the traffic pressure yet
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 15:55 mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter however is that to a large degree fain was powered by the original web delusion, "oh, lowering barriers to human creativity is what economy is all about". it's not. there's no such thing as "human creativity" in the sense of the general mass, and the barriers are there to keep us from the female wail.
mircea_popescu: i expect there's going to be a lively THAT before there's any need of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729223 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: we have a similar problem in teh republic, at that. #trilema overgravity renders #castles impracticable yet.
mircea_popescu: notrly tho.
mircea_popescu: romans used the more adequate neckchain. sorta-worked.
mircea_popescu: pay, as numerously discussed in teh forum, ain't the pill.
asciilifeform: they tried double pay for the far east
mircea_popescu: afaik only trotsky sorta-managed, but too dumb to realise what he was doing or capitalize on it.
mircea_popescu: heck, getting the precious cuntlets to move to kazakstan was a major problem for everyone, stalin, khruschev, etc.
mircea_popescu: this is a bigger problem for putin than anything else.
asciilifeform: but yes my understanding is that moscow is where western wreckerz dispense the bags of moolah; ergo growth ‘with yeast’. possibly phf can add detail.
mircea_popescu: us had a similar dynamic, with the unwashed irish tards landing in ny to be shipped to fight against the south while the precious cuntlets were kept under wraps in boston.
asciilifeform: from peter to lenin
mircea_popescu: except that city was leningrad.
mircea_popescu: russia has no "a road within walking distance anywhere you walk". it should, to survive.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 17:41 mircea_popescu: AND throughout the egypt that i've seen, they to this day have clay pots with water in the shade every quarter mile or so on the road. notwithstanding that yes you can buy bottled water and did i share that pic of the desert dhl ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason you suspect "europe will grow back" is strictly because every 20 miles a church steeple. exactly like egypt's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-23#1727932 but for richer people. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and recall thatcher’s formula.
mircea_popescu: this "collapse into the capital" is major bad news.
mircea_popescu: argentina is like 2x the size of all europe. its internal development is comparable to the island of corfu.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of ending up with a humongous buenos aires full of lazy parasites expecting to live off govt handouts and an entirely undevelopped interior of humonmgous size.
mircea_popescu: basically, very strong signs of argentinization in the ex-soviet lands.
mircea_popescu: is this by the old definition, seculum "until everyone present dies off" ?
asciilifeform: ‘Legend has it that every civilization is given a certain number of saecula by the gods. The Romans lasted for 24 saecula, the Ancient Egyptians held on for 30.’
mircea_popescu: also the ~best piece i ever read on russian post-soviet collapse : https://sashat.me/2017/05/28/will-moscow-ever-stop-growing/
asciilifeform: ‘when you go by the via aurelia, ad thousands have traveled before, remember the luck of the soldier, who never saw rome any more...’
mircea_popescu: whereas the via aurelia and its derivations to this day the basis of "european union".
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:45 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : so us rail gauge is 1435 mm. why ? because the first us rail was built by english immigrants, who kept to the english style. but why was the english style 1435 mm ? because rail started as (horse drawn) trams, and that was the gauge they used. but why ? because when they made trams they just used the old horse carriage gauge, by reusing the same tools. but why did carriages use 1435 mm gauge ? because if they
mircea_popescu: quite instructive, too. as per that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723583 observation, the absence of a connection between v. carpata and v. domitiana at either romula/tomis or apulum/istrus has a lot to do with there being such a thing as "moldavia" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: on cursory examination the item is actually well researched and correct.
mircea_popescu: (dude has various digested-obscura, like say https://sashat.me/2017/06/03/roman-roads/ ; arguably the pinnacle cultural product of the web era)
mircea_popescu: i suppose for the same money i shall pretend russia is == gorky.
asciilifeform: phunphakt, asciilifeform's relatives dun believe the tale 'though it be told unto them', they have ro burned into rom as bucharest circa 1980 or so
asciilifeform is gonna have to buy another trunk, to carry the sov-era kidz bookz in ro, ceaucescu hat, misc. lulzolade, home
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform : there's a 50% chance native speaker fails to note that refrain. ITS FUCKING HARD.
mircea_popescu: all they ever make is betas.