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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would mean Antel provides the RJ45 for each box, each RJ45 billed seperately. This would increase the complexity of administration and billing, but I don't know materially different it could be from the current situation in practice.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: may be worth to find out, if it can be done quickly, what would cost to hang directly from antel.
asciilifeform: it does appear that we're currently 2, rather than 1 , steps down from the orcistani national pipe.
BingoBoingo: Another, uglier option, is we either keep latecho for the cage and power or move to an Antel datacenter, explicitly become an Antel reseller where each box gets its own incoming line. I fail from this chair to see substantial increase in leverage from this route.
asciilifeform: conceivably, in the 'borderlands' -- both.
asciilifeform: in fuckholistans, the boxen will be electrically molested ; in 'civilized' -- physically.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not even convinced that there ~is~ a 'sane choice of location' .
BingoBoingo suspects naively that airlifting to an IXP will push us towards Austria/Turkey/Poland/Belarus/etc on the other side of the Atlantic. On this side of the Atlantic mebbe Fortaleza, Brasil/Venezuela/Mexico/Panama but I suspect Panama is an awful choice
ericbot: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:41:26 mircea_popescu: nah, there's the retiring kind and the executed kind of admiral.
asciilifeform asciilifeform does not expect that anyone will want to ask for his advice re how to do a 2nd isp, if we cede this stalingrad.
asciilifeform: this , i won't speculate about, will leave it to who has the capital to finance such an experiment.
asciilifeform: a set of broom closets in their houses, i expect.
asciilifeform: and ftr asciilifeform suspects that this story will end with mp_en_viaje asking asciilifeform to hand in his bicord. wat good is an admiral w/out a fleet ? like miklos horthy ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho, BingoBoingo oughta carefully discuss w/ mp , ~before~ (and not as last time, after) talk w/ latech.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if we were hosting gossipd nodes instead of public www's and irc bots, then indeed wouldn't matter that 90% of our ip block at any given time is awol. could simply walk it until connects to noad via the remaining. but we aint..
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: mno. during ddos, whole pipe was dead. whereas atm e.g. uy1 loads, ditto ossasepia, but not dulap or qntra << Ah, here I was trying to load qntra
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 11:57:00 mp_en_viaje: https://archivebox.io/ << this interesting to anyone btw ? since apparently we're doing a whole lotta python nao ?
asciilifeform: before this escapes >> read it, and looked useful, until got to the part where python3.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well it suggests we are presently unreachable for reasons of DDoS rather than BGP blackholing as before
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: elementarily suggests that it wasn't done via bgp.
BingoBoingo: In the interim, before the sit down... http://archive.is/qoXuE http://archive.is/ekeej The online BGP tools appear to be showing no no blackholes of our space
asciilifeform: a 'civilized solution', to be absolutely pedantic , includes both 1+2. i.e. nomoar blackholing, AND pipe that is reasonably weather-resistant.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: make it clear when you talk to latech, that if we cannot get a civilized solution and a guarantee out of'em, we're through. and will have to start evacuation of boxen. (not that there's anywhere to put'em, or likely to be any time soon.)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you imagine that folx will subscribe to a 'you might have to flip your ip erry 4hrs' isp ?
asciilifeform: could even be by a current or potential subscriber, to test whether we even have shit together before agreeing to colo a box.
BingoBoingo: For all I know the DDoS is done by the Cloudflare sales department
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The blackhole the target ips thing
BingoBoingo: As it stands, despite having vacant ips for folks to move to... the refusalt to try a targeted BGPD mitigation appears to have denied us the oppotunity to have any nines of uptime in September.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's being attacked is the very idea of tmsr isp, rather than a particular box.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is why enemy picked piz to start with, rather than e.g. lobbes's heathenisp box ( which cost him 0 aside from monthly cost and can simply move , erry day if he likes ) or mp_en_viaje's (which is 9000x oversupplied with pipe and he can also move at very little loss to whatever new isp)
asciilifeform: ddosism i suspect will follow all attempts to build republican isp. and will appear at the maximally effective time, i.e. when resources have already been sunk into buildout, long-term contracts with pipe seller signed, etc
BingoBoingo: We appear indeed to have two problems
asciilifeform: for ~4hrs last night, had just the former. but it was enuff to make the pipe ~unusable.
BingoBoingo: And I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, between Gossipd and Latecho's proposed BGP block, this time limited to the target addresses.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 08:10:45 mp_en_viaje: THEN the correct move is towards an ixp. there's thousands of these (eg bcnet-operated VTE).
asciilifeform: he had also this idea but it will have to be done by someone else, asciilifeform already spent most of what he had on the attempt to build piz.
asciilifeform: re ddos ( supposing to take latech's word for the assertion that it ~is~ a ddos , rather than pipe provider playing dulap-I-style games ) -- fact of the matter, it dun cost very much to saturate a 200Mb/s pipe.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Can you write out, on the blog or somewhere else in one olace,
asciilifeform: it's only a solution to a problem we ought not be having at all, in re the latech retardation.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope. but this is not a solution, given that whole pipe shuts down ea. time
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Did you manage to assign it .239 as an alternate address?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 04:53:21 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: two emails in the last ~30 minutes http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=fWlq
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dulap has been unreachable 100% of time since exactly then .
asciilifeform: even if BingoBoingo succeeds in negotiating 'no moar plug pulling, wtf already' this is not tenable.
asciilifeform: i still dunget why the 4 target addrs and not 5 or 1, each flood seems to take out whole pipe anyway
asciilifeform: btw my suspect list re ddos includes latech itself. possibly ploy to upsell on pipe.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 01:53:48 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: two emails in the last ~30 minutes http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=fWlq
BingoBoingo: No new information from them since since http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940740
asciilifeform: observe that BingoBoingo's bouncer is still cycling.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 04:53:21 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: two emails in the last ~30 minutes http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=fWlq
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 08:48:11 mp_en_viaje: hm, http://thewhet.net/ loads, http://qntra.net/ loads, http://bingology.net/ doesn't, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log doesn't... are you two being aggravated over there ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940757 << rerun of 2d ago. dozen shitfloods which took out whole pipe for ~10 of ~20min ea., followed by 'ohai you'd surely like to be unplugged wouldntcha'
mp_en_viaje: lotta tumblr-minded club owners out there, srsly imagine there's this vast untapped potential of girls like their mother thought girls should be, floating around somewhere in the aethers.
mp_en_viaje: ou just get the niggers out, not tonight, not immediately, but slowly and we’ll worry about the hot white bitches when the time comes”. Ok, it’s your God damn funeral." << pretty lulzy but actually remarkably accurate ; it's a wonder he needed 50 pages to finally say something even remotely in touch with reality.
mp_en_viaje: putation for being a nigger club, there’s no fucking way you’re turnin’ that shit around, unless you nuke the place with said niggers inside it and once I get the niggers out, which I will, who are you planning to replace them with, because if you think all of a sudden all the hot white girls of the world gonna start showin’ up in droves, you’re seriously out of your fucking minds. Their response, and I quote, “y
mp_en_viaje: cefloor totally surrounded by eye witnesses. Well as a professional DJ for many, many years I have often been hired specifically to drive out the niggers by multitudinous club / bar owners and each and every single time this request was made, I always asked whatever dumbass drug dealer / pimp on the side nightclub / bar owner, are you sure, because their money’s is just as green as everybody else’s and once you have a re
mp_en_viaje: "Eventually as with everything else, all good things, come to an end to include one of the best DJ joints I’ve ever had. At first, after a year of totally transforming their clientele as they had requested, they started cutting back my nights. When I started there, the place was overrun by niggers, not black people, niggers. You know the kind of fucking animals that shoot up the place or stab a motherfucker on a packed dan
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile girl in tall hat came in, "i come bearing many shishkebaps and things", so ima brb.
mp_en_viaje: kept trying to do this, carol 2 was ~same also.
mp_en_viaje: to be honest, the romanians of the 80s were a sad copy of german imperialism cca 1800s. got even a sorta-colony in congo, recall the paperwork wherein ceausescu whines bogota won't play its age of sail role ?
diana_coman: possibly decay all goes ~same way; for all one knows, romanians of '80s were just a belated copy themselves and so on.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose the manner in which the insanity survives is that it comes with a built-in indirection layer aka "romanul poate face misto de orice".
mp_en_viaje: "And finally choice # 3 fuck her and fuck you, stay put, ship you both back home so I can keep doing my fucking thing and make something, anything other than what I’ve become, an old, angry, broke, business owner, still fucking chasing my dreams of entertaining people by speakin’ my fuckin’ mind."
mp_en_viaje: they're building the 1980s socialism for themselves 2020, they're "discovering" successful burgeoning careers in the style of rotards' last decade now... what the fuck already, how, just HOW can the whole fucking euro colony of north america be on par with the eastern outskirts of the habsburg empire, only later ?!
mp_en_viaje: it's like reading the romanian retard club of 2011 exactly, holy shit already. how can the united states survive & exist only as a belated copy of really fucking stupid inconsequential idiotic romanian tards ?!
mp_en_viaje: fucking years had one, wouldn’t pick up the God damn phone to help me if his life fucking depended on it."
mp_en_viaje: "Choice # fucking 2, shitcan my entertainment journey to get your seriously medically challenged mother back home, 4000 fucking miles away from all my success, close to our useless fucking families to help us raise you, so you manage to make it to your first fucking birthday, in a place where I didn’t have a single fucking contact and even if my father who acted like he owned that whole fucking town he’d lived in for 20
mp_en_viaje: but it's pretty fucking hysterical, what these dorks imagine they should be imagining.
diana_coman: that lasting-local-fame is a thing.
diana_coman: he'd probably have got the piles, have to grant him that.
mp_en_viaje: the extremely successful (past tense) burgeoning (future expectation). since he was pretty confident in the future yesterday, it therefore follows that today he's not merely the man of yesterday, but rather, the man of today. with yesterday under his belt, he can safely belch like he's old money, and why the fuck not!
mp_en_viaje: "Choice # 1, I could’ve been your average selfish prick, divorced your mom, stayed put & rode that motherfucker out till the wheels fell off, that being my insanely successful burgeoning radio / nightclub & mobile DJ careers which would’ve immediately brought me mountains of money, piles of pussy and lasting local fame and God only knows what else in the long run. I gotta admit, that was a pretty sweet fuckin’ option."
mp_en_viaje: something like that at any rate.
mp_en_viaje: the part where his inner thighs are shades of brown giving way to shades of yellow is presumably supposed to pass in silence because look, hairmop ?
mp_en_viaje: but it takes two to make a mittelamerica marriage, and the "look, military uniform and roasted ham" portion's just as much involved.
mp_en_viaje: it's pretty lulzy how the https://gastatic.com/digest/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/fat_hairy_guy_on_bed_with_guns.jpeg portion of the "oh, women only want to become mothers" binome is always very... discreetly passed over in silence in these "awakening" manalone wankterials.
diana_coman: yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with anything ie it's just another sort of spam.
mp_en_viaje: ok, ima stop doing this now. john d. picasso can wait for albertina do display his hankies.
diana_coman still receives on various profiles all sorts of invites with pics that ~always are here-s-my-military-uniform-and-look-money
mp_en_viaje: Hi, I’m John D., your father and in this episode of Rated ARM TV, I’m gonna tell you the story of how I personally dismantled my own already incredibly awesome life in an attempt to give you, my one and only son a much better one than I had as a child, why it had to be done, and why this type of sacrificial behavior is one of the main ingredients of being A Real Man."
mp_en_viaje: "As a man with a fucked up childhood myself, not wanting to genocide yours, therefore breaking the unbreakable pattern that selfish pricks like my parents never even attempted to break, I decided to jump in on this whole parenting thing head fucking first with both fucking feet. “A Real Man always takes his responsibility as a parent seriously, even if it fucking ruins every other aspect of his life.”
mp_en_viaje: I wouldn’t have any God damn luck at all, so that was the exact fucking moment in time when your mom, my very fucking soon to be ex-fucking-wife, got fucking pregnant with you and extended my sentence and community service for another twenty God damn years." << o look, military dood too, to no-one's surprise.
mp_en_viaje: e fact that I was going to have to pay for all of it, welcome to ‘Merica, I had to make a couple of hard fucking choices on my own. At the time, I was finished with the military, or better yet, the politics of the assholes I got stuck working with in the service and my marriage and I was ready to get fucking divorced and start my whole fucking life over, again, from fucking scratch, again, but if it weren’t for bad luck,
mp_en_viaje: "Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I don’t love you son, I love you more than I ever thought I could possibly love anyone or anything, including myself, which I’ve done plenty of, I’m just saying that having you wasn’t a fucking choice, it wasn’t my God damn choice anyway and because that fucking choice was made for me without an ounce of God damn consultation or input from me whatsofuckingever, in spite of th
mp_en_viaje: you know, i once knew a girl made by one of these. she was... pretty well traumatized.
mp_en_viaje: "Being an asshole and being proud of it, never fucking a girl off video and getting a vasectomy have been the 3 pinnacle factors that have saved me the most amount of trouble and aggravation since my divorce and with any luck, they’ll do the same for you."
mp_en_viaje: wen that azn tard hurr-durred about butterflies dreaming we thought it was cute. meanwhile...
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: by that point I suspect it's the fantasy of a fantasy in a fantasy really.
mp_en_viaje: https://archivebox.io/ << this interesting to anyone btw ? since apparently we're doing a whole lotta python nao ?
mp_en_viaje: and yes, that's right : redditard.ARealMan gotta have a vasectomy. realization through derealization &c.
mp_en_viaje: “A Real Man always uses birth control, by shooting his fucking loads in the back of their throats and watching them fucking swallow it.”
mp_en_viaje: now there are only 3 possible ways not to get a girl pregnant in America today. A, never fucking meet her, 2, never, ever let her touch your dick and Charlie, fuck her exclusively in the ass, never allowing her grab your pecker except with the inside of her sphincter, using a condom, spermicide and flushing her out with a God damn fire hose when you’re done and finally, but most importantly get a fucking vasectomy now boy!
mp_en_viaje: Oh sure, you can wear a condom or cum in her mouth, as long as she doesn’t poke a fuckin’ hole in that bitch or spit the contents out through a fucking Krazy Straw, directly into her own gash. She can even be on birth control, if she fuckin’ takes it. She could give you a hand job in a parking lot behind a convenience store on a warm sunny day, just make sure to cut off her fucking hand once she’s done. As far as I k
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, okay, just for you, the next paragraph :
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 05:57:50 mp_en_viaje: ah yes http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log there we go.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940762 - if you want specifically trilema, it should be /log/trilema without it you'll get to whichever chan is first in the list but there's no guarantee that won't change, in principle
diana_coman: I wish they'd start with inventing at least a less predictable rant really; just as warm up for all those electricities they'll surely invent.
mp_en_viaje: apparently every demented fuck, unfit to be a waiter / plumber / whatever servile profession, nevertheless readily gratulates self with REAL manhood and "building empires from scratch".
mp_en_viaje: per hour on a fucking bicycle, which could have easily been avoided entirely by simply tapping the brakes, unlike getting a woman pregnant which unfortunately, there are no brakes for, only propellants and accelerants to the tune of jet fuel and C4 and most rational people would opt out of plowing teeth first into cinder block."
mp_en_viaje: but for A Real Man who intends on being fucking present for his child’s childhood, or someone with a sincere desire to accomplish something truly unique, unlike bringing another 18 year contractual obligation into the world, like say, inventing electricity, writing one of the greatest books in the history of mankind or building an empire from scratch, it’s like hitting a fucking brick wall with your face at a 100 miles