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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
thimbronion is in line for a rockchip. First contact was as gernika where he killed his GPG key by signing "I agree"
mp_en_viaje: exact same for a putative bitcoin foundation,
together with a "count of donated bitcoins from
the wider community"
mp_en_viaje: for as long as
that's 0, meh. no working sales funnel over at pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: my (admittedly distant) metric is "count of canditates
to lordship who made contact
through pizarro contract"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't know why you keep saying
that. sales is neither an optional nor a coinditional part of business.
mp_en_viaje: then
took about a year for you folk
to unconvincingly maneuver in
the general direction of maybe any day now imminently starting a sales process
mp_en_viaje: anyways,
there were
then protracted derpings with
the
transfer,
took like 6 months for you folk
to (maybe ?) disentangle screamingly idiotic business practices including large encrypted scratch files etc.
mp_en_viaje: mod6 + benvulpes bought it iirc, and
they did ~same for a while,
then eventually you reorganized it as a venture
that's specifically not
to include my say lest i wreck it, which incidentally i've respected
to date, notwithstandin gall sorts of incidental ineptitudes baked in all
through.
mp_en_viaje: a brief history of pizarro would be,
that after a lot of me haranguing over how
the republic will cease without isp, BingoBoingo volunteered
to go somewhere.
the whole affair was very open handed, with him given a budget and a
task. he picked uy, went
there, failed
to do a number of specific
things, which resulted in me pulling
the plug and selling
the
thing off 10cents
to
the dollar or somesuch.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, are you implying
that you were forbidden from deciding
to
take it out or what is it ?
mp_en_viaje: imagine, you've been at
this for years, some rando moldavian looks pretty good by offering what you were supposed
to offer, on your own
turf. is
this only ridoinculous
to my eye /!
mp_en_viaje: it didn't get past
the starting, by specifically avoiding any sort of sales. in
three instantiations.
mp_en_viaje: pizarro failed
to sell, and failed
to get localized in
the one location it decided
to care about.
mp_en_viaje: it evidently did no such
thing. IT did no such
thing.
this has no bearing on "how boxes are diddled" etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: none of
this is contentions, or
that relevant. yes, if pizarro had 5k customers paying it 50k/mo it could've conceivably had
the 25 boxes in 25 dcs.
mp_en_viaje: you said something
that doesn't read but nevertheless implies "oh,
this multi-dc
thing is what i proposed and you rejected in 2017".
then upon review it comes out i never rejected.
then you link somewhere else where we discuss how, if pizarro ever manages
to get any business, it can grow.
mp_en_viaje: nope.
the only possible
take is
that ineptitude doesn't fix itself, either you fix it or it stays.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 17:22:43 asciilifeform: in fuckholistans,
the boxen will be electrically molested ; in 'civilized' -- physically.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, did i miss something in
there ? seems
to me
that "this alternative is unrelated
to a proposal by asciilifeform back in 2017 when he couldn't get anyone
to usefully answer from ru or india" would be a much closer summary.
mp_en_viaje: it'd have been much better if resident in small orcistan ended up with strong local presence
to
the point of running in local elections etc.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, he flies. airfare in yurp is in
the 50euro range.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, one possible continuation is
to install resident in say budapest, have him colo boxes in each dc from portugal
to moldavia, implement an upgraded version of point 2 above.
mp_en_viaje: as it
turns out, it's a hollow spec, entirely holy water dousing.
the orcs are just as pantsuit as
the zeks,
they're just
too stupid
to express it in specific forms, but otherwise will pantsuit reliably anyways.
mp_en_viaje: and
to continue
that list :
the "not nato" line in
the original spec defo not asset. we ate
the cost of orcistan, but gained (through whoever's fault, leaving
this aside) no upside from orcistan. we have no priviledged connection past what somone off
the street yesterday would have, but we do have massive headache with eg supplies.
mp_en_viaje: seems fg was asset. exotic iron was never asset, arguably promised
to be, but never made it.
mp_en_viaje: i asked from
the pov of pizarro ; what % of its business is related
to fg deployment. i guessed a bout 40%, could be wrong, maybe it's only 20%, w/e.
mp_en_viaje: ah, from
that side. what's
the relevancy here ?
mp_en_viaje: at
the very least both smg servers need it, which is what, 2 out of 5 colo'd machines, with
the rk making up another 1/3 of pizarro business ?
mp_en_viaje is not exact on numbers, having followed
this only on
the "when brought
to
trilema" level of detail.
mp_en_viaje: never managed
to be much sold, but yes, it generated perhaps as much as 40% of
the business
mp_en_viaje: this makes it a liability for
the business.
mp_en_viaje: on
the green side, you have 0 business you can point out
to as acquired because specific iron configuration, in preference of random "vps" ; on
the red side, you have plenty of loss you can point
to as lot because same iron arrangement.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but looky : for
this
to be a business rather
than a dream, it has
to be construed, and managed, as a business.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't believe
the iron buildout was actually an asset for pizarro, business wise.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, it beggars belief
that after
two years on
the ground, your relationship
to
the derpy orc dc consists of form letters and usual arby's runaround.
BingoBoingo suspects we need a species of cosmonaut better
than BingoBoingo
to have a working Pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: hey, as long as we're doing wants i have a list right here. shall i go
through it ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, supposedly because you have good automated fallbacks people can't be bothered
to write
themselves. sorta early handcranked UCI.
mp_en_viaje: if pizarro is here rather
than not, what's lost ?
mp_en_viaje: over all
these possibilities, your entrenched, utter inability
to actually produce business sits as a complete smog cover. i had been harping about how you have a limited
time
to life and either you use it
to live or die for years because o fexactly
this reason : now when
the push comes
to shove, who exactly is
the lifeblood we're
talking about ?
mp_en_viaje: there'd be also a
theoretical 3, where you move
to different dc because
this one specifically wasn't good ; but considering you didn't discover on own feet
the not-goodness, but had
to wait for events,
thisis purely a
theoretical alternative.
mp_en_viaje: 2. you folk move on
to simply hiring space from 500+ random internet isps, and snowshoe your load around.
this requires a lot more
technical acumen
than i've seen so far, seeing how you've not as much as managed
to implement in practice bash scripts given on
trilema for mass-interneting,
the level of avg 12yo script kiddie.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 12:59:23 BingoBoingo:
the proposed sane solution
mp_en_viaje: ), but instead you use 2week
term
to produce oscar
that'd rather cut own
throat
than inconvenience you.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940834 << in practice,
there's
the following practical solutions : 1. you folk move on
to an ipx.
this requires exactly
the skillset you don't have, wherein you don't sit on ass 2y
talking
to an "oscar" who couldn't give shit about you (after however long failing
to produce any modicum of insertion
that led
to
the original blowup / massive investor haircut pizarro came out of
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 12:41:52 asciilifeform: btw my suspect list re ddos includes latech itself. possibly ploy
to upsell on pipe.
mp_en_viaje: it's funny how
this shit works, we had single logger for years,
then when
there's finally redundancy, bang.
BingoBoingo has an asshole so sore in
the metaphorical sense
that he's contemplating a donut pillow
BingoBoingo: Well, from
the progre horde's perspective
things may look more like Mao's "Problems in China are big, but
they become very small when you divide by
the
chinese people]
BingoBoingo: It is appearing
that is
the case. It seems Latecho is creating our pipe by using a router
that splits our bandwith from a bigger Antel pipe coming into Latecho. Rather
than having acquired a line for
the purpose of serving us, it appears from
this crisis and
their reaction
that
they simply contracted more bandwidth
to a pipe
they already had.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It seems
the blackholing happens at
the Antel level by request of Latecho