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asciilifeform: i've been running public node at home for years, in the heart of mordor

jurov: btw, just today i got an offer for "small business" connection, it included ToS

asciilifeform: i am concerned with 'pogos will fall like dominoes from simple and cheap nudge' rather than 'in the dark future where being a known bitcoin user merits gassing'

asciilifeform: the 'ddos' i'm concerned with is more that we are setting up a box with unique vulnerabilities

asciilifeform: jurov: unless i am mistaken, the plan was to deploy these to the homes of cooperating civilians

jurov: oh i forgot to add to summary 3. no maintenance

asciilifeform: jurov: i personally am not very interested in building a weapon of war which enemy can turn off, collectively, by flipping a switch

asciilifeform: i firmly believe that all of the answers proposed so far are disastrously bad

jurov: i'm fine with ntp

punkman: I don't see local time in there

asciilifeform: for folks who are seriously working on the problem: i presently suspect that the solution will resemble some mix of 'lamport clock' and 'the firing squad problem'

asciilifeform: i will leave this with one more analogy: why did marching armies use drummers, instead of having each man push the next fellow, like in a crowded train ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i shall be doing the equivalent, this week

asciilifeform: i do not at present know of a non-retarded solution

thestringpuller: i vote asciilifeform since he doesn't like leaving the house

asciilifeform: i'd put an oven oscillator in there, and 50 years of lithium battery, sure

asciilifeform: (some of which i foresee quite clearly)

asciilifeform: i didn't design the thing

asciilifeform: the point which i am trying - and apparently failing - to make, is that the bitcoin protocol as we know it requires time to be an invariant, by which blocks are judged

asciilifeform: i can feed you easy blocks from the past and move the average wherever i want

decimation: I agree but the enemy would have to know that this is a pogo vs. other bitcoin node

asciilifeform: say i feed your pogo the entire sequence of blocks 0,5000 with the period times. now it believes that it's 2009 ?

punkman: so I use a lot of hashing power for 1 hour and then make you wait 1 month for next block?

asciilifeform: punkman: the solution, i now realize, is difficulty which ratchets based on actual mass of work

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 07:09:24; punkman: asciilifeform: i really fail to grasp for what, precisely, it is, that we need the possibility of falling difficulty. << remember Altcoin? do you prefer the possibility of 1 block per month?

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 11:52:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190714 << i thought alphabetical the most logical tbh.

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 11:52:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190686 << i still do not approve of the proof.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190969 << i would very much like to hear why ! ☝︎

shinohai: Whelp looks like I am stuck on block 363726

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190921 << precisely. what i was suggesting is to monotonically move the target 'harder'. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 11:22:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190359 << i dun get it past "ru govt stole some dude's money".

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190911 << perhaps i should explain. dude was an odious, moralizing twerp, who played the 'holier than thou' game for ages. ru law requires ministers to declare income. he declared perhaps 1% of it. nailed fair and square. and if there is some way for him to have made that dough other than straight bribery, monkeys will fly from my arse. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190906 << if i can't see how it made it, and repeat the process, it is useless to me ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 10:50:32; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uh. the one published actually encompasses the first fork. i have other chains (also historical) that aren't wedged, but i had thought yours passed that point ?

mircea_popescu: i recall now.

mircea_popescu: punkman cuz i say ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, if he does the assbot thing i'm definitely going to allow selected l2 people to manage f.mpif pcs.

mircea_popescu: in any case i recall f.mpif had an investment with a derivative something for a few months.

punkman: it was an old article, I also posted it before I think

mircea_popescu: in the end it came to exactly the same thing, not scammed anyone to anyone's knowledge, and why exactly would i put so much power in the hands of inept fiat "regulatory bodies"

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 08:27:37; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1190188 >> in fact, i did once negrate kako for fake "broker of the year" badges...

mircea_popescu: the names of the places they'll never see. what exactly is the difference between an academitard and a housewife watching discovery channel i shall never know.

mircea_popescu: then stolfi wonders whether i want to be this or that title. as if a title is in any way useful or related to me.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190714 << i thought alphabetical the most logical tbh. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190686 << i still do not approve of the proof. ☝︎☟︎

shinohai: punkman: I like it, he smokes.

mircea_popescu: Adlai this sort of smartness i'll gladly do without.

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 02:26:24; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: unless i seriously misunderstand, 50%+ of the hash rate belongs to folks ~who aren't even running bitcoin~ but a toystore version

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190423 << experimentally, i have a lot more faith in things that barely survive than in Britannia eternal. experimentally, the former do survive, the latter crash on the jagged shores of time. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190359 << i dun get it past "ru govt stole some dude's money". ☝︎☟︎

kakobrekla: greek islands are the best. i very much enjoyed them, perhaps mykonos the most. jurov would love it there, im sure.

assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 00:23:25; asciilifeform: because i won't be running it.

punkman: I'm transgreek

mircea_popescu: i suppose we progressed from moore law's to this noore law.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190266 << so far the balance of what i got was "man this site is confusing" in various tongues. ☝︎

punkman: "I run the restaurant from 1996, its a family business. I work here with my father and my mother. We only cook traditional Greek food. We accept Bitcoin for payments. They have come 6-8 people pay with Bitcoin from Spain, France, Italy, Ireland, Luxembourg but i hope for more people with Bitcoins"

shinohai: I thought that the 0.1% per 1 BTC transacted was reasonable, as set out in the Declaration of Sovereignty.

mircea_popescu: might have been 0.00001 what they paid, i dun recall. look at the backlog should be obvious

shinohai: reddit believes *they* are the market force, or so I thought.

mircea_popescu: i thought reddit didn't believe in "market forces".

mircea_popescu: everyone that thinks i should have creme fraiche and strawberries, make your blocks v 1337

mircea_popescu: everyone that thinks i should have smoked cheese and salmon breakfast, make your blocks v 666

mircea_popescu: i think we should have a network vote.

mircea_popescu: "o hai folks i'm talking from day after tomorrow. time is moving by really really too slow!!!1"

shinohai: Either gribble is off or I am xD

mircea_popescu: i beg your pardon ?

shinohai: I am at height 361167 his morning. Agonizingly slow.

assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 22:34:34; pete_dushenski: "CoinbaseAdrian 30 points an hour ago* : Sorry guys, we're looking into this. It appears to be an issue with our network provider (Cloudflare). We have an urgent ticket open with them and I'll update here with any details." << response to coinbase being offline

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uh. the one published actually encompasses the first fork. i have other chains (also historical) that aren't wedged, but i had thought yours passed that point ? ☟︎

jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1190188 >> in fact, i did once negrate kako for fake "broker of the year" badges... ☝︎☟︎

Vexual: i got in on that private guam pipe, that was a winner

cazalla: so i hear, took a shot gun to the face and walked away unscatched, prob bullshit story

Vexual: i missed the first one

Vexual: i liked the general there of private enterprise

punkman: asciilifeform: i really fail to grasp for what, precisely, it is, that we need the possibility of falling difficulty. << remember Altcoin? do you prefer the possibility of 1 block per month? ☟︎☟︎

Vexual: i think i mentioned the free rent

cazalla: Vexual, see http://i.imgur.com/vvgXA0v.png

cazalla: yeah, that lee guy uses it as proof he has a solid reputation in the bitcoin community.. hai guyz i run a bitcoin meetup so pls gief me 20 mirrion dorrah

Vexual: i like the model

Vexual: ahhh right, i dint red

Vexual: i like the model

Vexual: i think maybe the spoonies in iceland is rented

cazalla: i think dcc shitcanned their mining or at least onsold their capacity

cazalla: i read it last night.. they want 20 million to buy more miners with

Vexual: i havent read the prospectus

Vexual: thats what i thought

cazalla: Vexual, no idea, i think they actually provide the space to others

trinque: in fact I built llvm and clang earlier today

Vexual: i saw funkensteins man playin, i could smell the 03

mats: i was under the impression 'diff' implements a variation on 'needleman-wunsch'

asciilifeform: and then of course there is basic crypto, but i am deliberately not mentioning it

asciilifeform: e.g., my current colleagues were very surprised when i told them about needleman-wunsch and how one can make a non-retarded binary 'diff'

mats: if the latter is even necessary, i have no idea

mats: i don't care about fuzzing at all, folks have much better tooling than i do, and i have no resources of any kind to aid me in that

mats: well, i meant exploitation is what interests me

mats: otherwise i wouldn't subject myself to it

asciilifeform: i have no wish to be a coolie.

asciilifeform: mats: even the exploiting, i find, is deadly boring

asciilifeform: mats: as a rule, i am entirely uninterested in 'mitigations' ☟︎