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asciilifeform: do orcs even know how to steal properly ? ( recall, sunday market, had among other things a carpet fulla... tv remotes. in ro i saw same, manned by gypsies. who the fuck steals these , and why ? who buys ? )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought it's an extension on hotdog.
mircea_popescu: it's entirely not about "folks" or "people". i am pretty sure by now it's entirely old woman code, in the vein of http://trilema.com/2018/the-retards-handshake/
asciilifeform: trinque: i expect it'll be cured when we get on a sane relay net
mircea_popescu: lol. why all the animals ? i got hupets.
mircea_popescu: if emergency i can up it, but if not meh, lazy!
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> BingoBoingo thanks for posting. could i also pester you for your wp-includes/kses.php ? << http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/isem6/?raw=true
diana_coman: hanbot in tiny but useful changes: wp-comments-post.php still contains a trilema-specific query that can easily be changed to generic i.e. tril_comments should be $wpdb->comments (line 64)
diana_coman: I suppose one now should also comb the thing for any other anonymous functions that might need the use clause or otherwise work with empty vars ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i expect it's exactly what happened ; i also had it in my notes as "works"
diana_coman: that actually explains nicely also why hanbot did not spot it earlier perhaps and why when I looked on her blog it seemed to work - possibly it silently broke only when she moved her hosting and in the process upgraded php version too
mircea_popescu: i never went for 5.x tree
danielpbarron: no i do not
danielpbarron: I think so
danielpbarron: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4taHY/?raw=true << I think this fixes it. Seems like PHP changed how "anonymous" functions work, now requires a "use" clause
mircea_popescu: if that fixes it, the problem are bad filters set somewhere, i expect ?
hanbot: that being the only (very faint) lead i've got after looking through every damned file where strip_tags appears, looking at comment_form idem, i stuck a function in my theme's comments specifically to allow desired tags, no dice...i dunno where else to look, frankly.
hanbot: BingoBoingo thanks for posting. could i also pester you for your wp-includes/kses.php ?
a111: Logged on 2019-03-20 17:32 asciilifeform: ( the other design objective, perhaps less obvious, is that enables treatment of incoming ciphertexts as 'passive subjects' operated upon by 'active' privkey, i.e. it is not possible for an incoming pehgram to decide to print yer privkey to screen, or radio its bits to aether by constructed pattern of decrypts, etc )
asciilifeform: loox like i killed the lisp bot , brb
hanbot: comment content tags, i mean.
hanbot: in wp-comments-post.php line 42 i see a list of content tags including b, blockquote, em, etc, but not a href; but eh looks like e.g. b is stripped too.
diana_coman: not that I can tell at a quick grep
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'll have to dig. Qntra's not on mp-wp yet.
diana_coman: I do have this talent of stepping on such things
a111: Logged on 2019-03-20 22:19 hanbot: diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: initially I tried to simply drop in my own theme but that did not play nicely with mpwp; and for a (very short) time I stayed with the basic but it was so annoying that I quickly whipped up something.
hanbot: diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: how long ago was this install ? i mean, mp-wp hasn't been around long enough for you to have changed something by hand ~and forgot~, is it ?
diana_coman: hanbot: maybe I messed up at some point all themes; I'll press the genesis again and unpack a clean theme from there and see if that sorts it
diana_coman: so I guess the first thing is if anyone else can replicate it or it's something specific to my setup somehow - in which case,it's entirely mine to find...
hanbot: i wish i knew what the shit. what really throws me is same behavior cross-theme, as i thought this stuff was theme-handled. i'ma keep digging.
diana_coman: hanbot seems to have them working on her blog and so does nicoleci where I think it's barebasic install so as close to genesis as possible
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i have nfi what to tell you.
diana_coman: the only thing to do next that I can think of is to try and trace wtf happens, step by step but I don't even have a clear idea on that.
diana_coman: it's live and it shows: XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <pre> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I did uncomment the "you can use these html tags" which calls allowed_tags and that showed precisely what is in allowedtags as far as I could tell
mircea_popescu: i don't currently know wtf to tell you. there's these two points, whereby $allowedtags hold the allowed tags and then that content filter removes some from comments at time of posting.
diana_coman: also: I tried adding specifically to that array, another tag but it clearly just ignores/bypasses it somewhere; not even sure how to figure out *where* (i.e. when)
diana_coman: other than that I grepped around and could not find additional hooks set, nor additional calls to strip nor anything useful really
diana_coman: fwiw if I'm logged in, it keeps the tags in comments and I saw that yes, it has that current_user can html sort of thing but that is ALL html
diana_coman: so I'll have to sink in more time and find out, sigh
diana_coman: and today I dug up chasing this thing but so far I have only better understanding of wp to show for it
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how the fuck is this possible then.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I installed it from hanbot's genesis; I added my old footnote's plugin and changed in the theme to show the recent comments, that's about it.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is truly all i head. are you using a mp-wp or own roll ?
diana_coman: confirmed, it's in there: comment_content = ( isset($_POST['comment']) ) ? trim(strip_tags($_POST['comment'],"<a><em><strong><i><b><blockquote><ul><ol><li>")) : null;
diana_coman: that one is there, I saw it earlier
mircea_popescu: $comment_content = ( isset($_POST['comment']) ) ? trim(strip_tags($_POST['comment'],"<a><em><strong><i><b><blockquote><ul><ol><li>")) : null;
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: what/where should I look exactly? my dig into this yielded a sort of 1001 possible filters to add but I could not find one other than default afaik
diana_coman: hanbot: hm, actually I was wrong: comment from previously approved user makes it directly, no modqueue.
diana_coman: given this behaviour I suspect some sort of strip/filter at some intermediate step but I don't know wp that well
hanbot: bizarre. i'll look into it, possibly mircea_popescu knows the culprit by sight tho'.
diana_coman: hanbot: apparently...both! i.e. comments gets sent to modqueue but tag is gone too.
diana_coman: rather: allowedtags var in kses.php which I understand is used by default filters
diana_coman: I couldn't find any specific hook added and my theme doesn't seem to be to blame for this either as I tried with out-of-box theme and it was same behaviour
diana_coman: I looked and apparently I have the allowed_html array fine in kses.php
diana_coman: hanbot, mircea_popescu or any other mpwp expert: how do I allow html tags in comments for non-logged in users?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, actually i think this is it!
asciilifeform: i suppose from the pov where errybody since ww1 is a rag doll, then yes no grunt to be had
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform riiight, cuz that's how it works. "other than that one gangbang she told me about, i married a virgin"
asciilifeform: i dun think he even ever used a comp aside from that occasion.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nope. the grunt no longer exists, and ~hasn't~, other than in pretense, since vietnam. << Pretty fair assessment. All I've know drank themselves into various sorts of bondage.
mircea_popescu: i can also distinguish skateboarders such as curt cobain was a kiddy amongst, from retarded ben stiller carrying around a skateboard while dressed in a lumberjack costume.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am happy with his timeline : item that was last seen alive cca 1955, was finally buried with clinton's putsch in 90s.
asciilifeform admittedly not current on subj. for all i know, both ends nao ~100% 'preet' from bombay.
asciilifeform: possibly i'm thick, but afaik 'blue' / 'red' as diff as can be -- even murder weapon of choice diff, 'red' with rocket strike , 'blue' prefers 'democratic crowd with raised awareness' (or if fails, poison)
mircea_popescu: but i mean at the ~onset~. by the time nixon was involved no such thing as meaningful red spoke publicly.
mircea_popescu: item i have in mind was quite pointedly at functionaries, "judges", assorted sops.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've had the misfortune to meet both types , they're distinguishable even from across street , as if fantasy characters , dwarf, elf
mircea_popescu: "when dealing with usg, make sure you get 100% payment upfront" was http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ ; but iirc i had a different one.
asciilifeform: i find the 'coloured' model useful, it describes the -- quite diff -- sets of folx , one which grifts on 'orange revolution' management, other -- lives to churn inventory for lockheed et al
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 00:56 mircea_popescu: in other oh wows, elena udrea (ro slut politician, quite successful. http://trilema.com/2009/super-terrific-caption-hour-part-i/ ) got convicted for nothing in particular (her party no longer in power), 5 years.
mircea_popescu: “Remarks have been made by the Turkish President Erdogan that I consider highly offensive to Australians, and highly reckless in this very sensitive environment,” Mr Morrison said.
asciilifeform: turks -- champs, i've nfi wai frogman picked on'em
asciilifeform: i suspect they also hate turks cuz the latter functional/sane
mircea_popescu: there's this fundamental self-hatred at the basis of "decisions" the schmucky whitebois take. "i shouldn't do well".
asciilifeform: i still dunget wainot turks in eu
mircea_popescu: somehow, magically, i don't expect any "democratic decision factors" being hanged, or even as much as confronted (let alone admitting) their strict liability for this result.
asciilifeform: ( supposing whole thing not sham , i've nfi )
asciilifeform: ( the other design objective, perhaps less obvious, is that enables treatment of incoming ciphertexts as 'passive subjects' operated upon by 'active' privkey, i.e. it is not possible for an incoming pehgram to decide to print yer privkey to screen, or radio its bits to aether by constructed pattern of decrypts, etc ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: so far i focused mostly on ~removing~ 'can-dos' lol
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think we've even scratched the surface of what this thing can do.
asciilifeform: the most obvious mistake would be to 'von neumann' and to permit the tape to write to the tape, but i avoided that from beginning.
asciilifeform: for thrd-completeness -- the final design turned out quite diff from the orig 2017 prototype. e.g. orig i was gonna have jumps
asciilifeform: i dun anticipate any new tape motion ops, period (besides, we're justabout outta ascii... )
asciilifeform: sorta how i ended up starting with starvation minimum of control flow ops, and slowly added'em in after attempts to write e.g. rsa keygen w/out'em turned out quite ugly
asciilifeform: seems like mircea_popescu is thinking same thing, i'ma make '2'.
asciilifeform: i was also thinking '2' initially
mircea_popescu: i'd say 2, tbh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i considered to mandate a minimal sub name length, but decided on '1' for time being.
asciilifeform: @subname@body; declares a sub (declaration terminated by the ; so it is not possible to declare a sub with no return. ) @subname! calls the sub. sub can be called only if declared previously, and may not call self. sub may not be declared inside a sub or loop (i.e. if control stack is nonempty.)
asciilifeform: thing is built as much as possible to discourage brainfuckism. (i.e. explicit positional tape movement is prohibited, ditto recursion)
a111: Logged on 2019-03-19 09:27 spyked: notice: feedbot, spykedbot and web facing items that I'm hosting (e.g. thetarpit) will be down tomorrow, the 20th of March, cca 8AM-12PM. apologies for any inconveniences this might cause.
diana_coman: hm, the end there got clipped; I meant: I'll keep both domains and have redirects in place so all links with either domain work anyway.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-19 22:35 mircea_popescu: diana_coman i actually edited latest trilema to http://trilema.com/2019/lets-look-at-the-mechanism-of-decay/#selection-145.46-149.11 ; but i confess it's unclear which is the cannonical name. should it be dianacoman.com or ossasepia.com ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-19#1903447 -> both work and will work; when I started, the only name I could say I won't change was my own, hence dianacoman.com; in time I found a name for the blog too (took a few detours) and that's ossasepia hence ossasepia.com; but I don't expect anyone to go through any trouble and have to change their links either way; I suppose strictly speaking the blog is ossasepia.com so that'd be the cannonical but I'll ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno any of them are alive in any sense.
shinohai: lol I thought VERGE got rekt already. (Got added to pr0n sites, no one bothered to use)
mod6: I gotta step away for now, but I appreciate it. We'll keep discussing this stuff. Maybe that's 50% of my problem, not enough chats.