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mp_en_viaje: if not -- not. but YOU'RE
THE ONES
THAT ARE SUPPOSED
TO KNOW
THIS. cuz you're
the ones fucking living
there, whose business
this is, and etcetera. wth already.
mp_en_viaje: take out advertising in local paper as
to how
they defraud businesses, which is perfectly legal if plain statement of claims in ongoing legal proceeding, and
there you go.
mp_en_viaje: claim 2x what you paid during
the entire history, let
the judge sort it out.
mp_en_viaje: if indeed
they just hitched you
to an existing pipe and pretended, it's
time
to serve
them papers registered with
the whatever local intendencia handles business fraud.
mp_en_viaje: you should in principle should [have been] able
to see
this, in
the fucking dc, as it's visibly self-evident.
mp_en_viaje: so
the notion
that "latechco is protecting other derps" can't possibly hold any water : you're
the only derps on
the
two 100mb lines and
the one c-block route you pay for.
mp_en_viaje: thus logically, you have "1 of
this and 2 of
that", not "1/256 of
this and 1/5 of
that".
mp_en_viaje: similarily,
the routes
they (latechco) advertise are discrete at
the c-block level, meaning pizarro's allocation is ONE WHOLE ITEM, not a fraction.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 14:43:59 BingoBoingo: It is appearing
that is
the case. It seems Latecho is creating our pipe by using a router
that splits our bandwith from a bigger Antel pipe coming into Latecho. Rather
than having acquired a line for
the purpose of serving us, it appears from
this crisis and
their reaction
that
they simply contracted more bandwidth
to a pipe
they already had.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940903 <<
this is dubious. no actual data
to go on but
the generals :
there's obviousl;y ganged multi-gb megaswitches available, in actual places where actual
transit happens. say frankfurt. i doubt obscure antel of nowhereland has ZERO 100mb lines, and
thus in order
to get 200mb you have
to cut down a 1gb line. seems rather
the 100mb is made by welding
two 100mb lines
togeth
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 14:35:55 asciilifeform:
then
to hang directly off antel may be
the
ticket.
mp_en_viaje: pizarro not only failed
to bring new blood, but effectually killed other people's efforts at same!!!!
diana_coman: fuck;
those guys were meant
to publish
their plans+ reviews
today, ugh.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Not if you are using
the qntra name servers instead of a host file
to resolve
mp_en_viaje: no, keks. hey hanbot_abroad your blog is down wtf sorta operation are you running
there !!eleventy11
diana_coman: BingoBoingo:
that makes younghands.club up at least; good
to hear,
thanks.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman:
The DNS server IPs are now both down. Shared server is still up.
mp_en_viaje: there's nothing
to be gained by you manning
the f5 galley on
top of everyone else.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, listen,
take
the weekend off / do some writing / whatever you don't need
the pizmess for.
mp_en_viaje: ie, if you had a healthy customer base built in
the intervening peacetime,
this wouldn't even be much of a problem, per se. and if you don't build same, nothing else will be any kind of solution, no matter what it is, up
to and including god's own hand coming down from heavens above holding a shimmering rjack finished in pure samite.
diana_coman: now ossasepia.com seems
to be down
too; is latech again just nullrouting everything or what?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 14:16:09 asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not expect
that anyone will want
to ask for his advice re how
to do a 2nd isp, if we cede
this stalingrad.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 11:57:00 mp_en_viaje:
https://archivebox.io/ <<
this interesting
to anyone btw ? since apparently we're doing a whole lotta python nao ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:58:21 asciilifeform: before
this escapes >> read it, and looked useful, until got
to
the part where python3.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:13:18 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you imagine
that folx will subscribe
to a 'you might have
to flip your ip erry 4hrs' isp ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: DDoS was a
thing before Cloudflare, but I don't recall random i.e. without explicit demand DDoS being a
thing until Cloudflare came around.
mp_en_viaje: well...
there's 0 chance anyone connected
to irc from
THERE, so...
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, understand, pre-distributed clients connect
to specified ip.
there's no easy way
to change
the ip, as it lives in a config file on player side.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:10:55 BingoBoingo: For all I know
the DDoS is done by
the Cloudflare sales department
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: sadly for production server I don't
think it's useful
to change
the IP; I suppose we are lucky in
that it's now rather
than after eulora release.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: If you find
the proposition useful
take .230
through .235 for
the eulora server
mp_en_viaje: yeah, it's not in principle possible
to run a game server "with secret ip". moreover, all domain names always resolve
to an ip as well,
the whole "cloak" bs is ... well, you know.
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
trouble with production server is
that people connect
to known IP; can't quite ask players
to change IP
diana_coman: meanwhile production Eulora server unreachable; fwiw
the
testing server is still reachable.
BingoBoingo: Yesterday's liberating sense of uncertainty solidly replaced
today by dreadful sense of uncertainty.
mp_en_viaje: and in general, you knwo, move
to reduce unknowns.\
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 19:25:34 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here,
the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send
the relevant .pcap files over please"
diana_coman: I wanted
to say
that I read a bit around
the shlex python
thing
too but I never used it before so still unsure re direct fix
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 18:44:29 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed
this and i
think also issued vpatch
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:44:59 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed
this and i
think also issued vpatch
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 18:42:28 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like
they went ahead and blackholed a portion of
the IP space. half
the rockchips, dulap, and another IP
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, don't have
to do it right now, let your boss wake up, why not.
mp_en_viaje: there's extremely little anything
to go on, and it's not ALL
the fault of some dude named oscar
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Aite, Imma send your
text over
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 12:47:56 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: atm we still have 'kolhoz' bandwidth, i.e. 'all you can eat', but i expect if we put up an image paster it'll saturate
the pipe 100% . ( naturally if mircea_popescu wants
to make arrangements
to get monster pipe specially for
this experiment, i'ma work with him
to make it go. but promises
to be costly. )
mp_en_viaje: anyway,
the naive impression was
that
the (~deliberate~) upside of "
kolhoz-style" is passive "ddos" mitigation, whereby pizz pipe absorbs individual hits in
this manner. was
this intended function ? was it ever measured/monitored ? did it critically fail, what happened ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 11:31:29 asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected btw
that all
the major bugs in bot would be found in disconnect handling. piz pipe is so stable
that not seen naturally-occurring disconnect yet...
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here,
the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send
the relevant .pcap files over please"
BingoBoingo: ? sucediendo." << Is
this
the sort of response I should send before scheduling a sit down?
BingoBoingo: "Can I get a packet dump from at least one of
the floods before sitting down and discussing options for moving forward.
The graphs seem
to show when activity is happening, but
they lack information
that could be used
to put
together a mitigation strategy. Is
the incoming
traffic UDP,
TCP, ICMP, etc? Is
there any information
that suggests an origin or origins. Hay una falta de información forense que pueda ayudar a evaluar lo que est?
mp_en_viaje: "here's
the 5k packets you received during 10 minutes, LISTED. we can't handle over 10/s, sorry" is one
thing. "here's some colors" is... another
thing.
mp_en_viaje: so i can't really say anything intelligent on
THAT score.
mp_en_viaje: the
7007245 hits for 24 days of june (2016!) ~averages~
to almost 300k a day, meaning it peaks above
that, meaning etcetera. ima stop quoting
these, but
the idea is : i can't even currently guess whether your contact deems 1 connection/second a ddos. maybe it does, nfi, no way
to
tell from
those derpy graphs. is it 10 ? 100 ? dude has no fucking idea either
mp_en_viaje: but
the overarching point : a certain amount of
toy "ddos" is ~GUARANTEED~. carries no meaning, attaches
to no identity, has nothing
to do with you in any way. it's like "a certain level of hardship is guaranteed outdoors", unfucking avoidable.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, do you see
the difference between my cascade of links and
that ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:05:51 asciilifeform: ddosism i suspect will follow all attempts
to build republican isp. and will appear at
the maximally effective
time, i.e. when resources have already been sunk into buildout, long-term contracts with pipe seller signed, etc
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940843 << it's very difficult
to evaluate key metrics because of
the extrmely poor quality of available data. a certain amt of "ddos" is ~extremely~ common, and in no way or manner related
to anything or
to any degree intentional. i periodically published on
trilema lists of what'd qualify as "ddos" by 1999 standards say. let me fish some out, why not.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, my deployed code is pressed up
to active_disconnect; I'll check
the following 2
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed
this and i
think also issued vpatch
mp_en_viaje: in fairness, it's entirely possible
they don't even know what it is / how
to make one.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like
they went ahead and blackholed a portion of
the IP space. half
the rockchips, dulap, and another IP
mp_en_viaje: im
trying
to provide you folk with what i expect you want (or else nfi why you're discussing it here), ie an experienced sounding board for your business
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 22:01:52 mp_en_viaje: personally has no intention of pulling
the plug over diana_coman 's inability
to do smg work
today because of
this for instance ;
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:13:21 mp_en_viaje: as it
turns out, it's a hollow spec, entirely holy water dousing.
the orcs are just as pantsuit as
the zeks,
they're just
too stupid
to express it in specific forms, but otherwise will pantsuit reliably anyways.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 17:35:49 asciilifeform:
then will actually fulfill mp's orig spec of 'own fucking line, with no one
to say 'we pulled you
to protect our other derps' )
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform wanted
to know
the folks in line for Rockchip
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, as
there was no pizarro in 2016, i dun
think
this has any bearing ? or wha
tare we
talking about ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, sure, but
that's unrelated. "i had not what
to sell" is not acceptable answer
to "why not sold ?" much like "maybe it just dissapeared" is not acceptable ansser
to "what happened
to content of safe", as per prior discussion re
tech and magic.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-03-31 18:48:02 gernika: asciilifeform: fyi I made a
trip
to eetools HQ
today and came back home with a curiosity: EmMax plus rom emulator - connects
to LPT port - comes with console app. It does *not* however appear
to support dos - win95 is as far back as it goes it seems.