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mircea_popescu: incidentally re pogo and cpu - i am well persuaded the problem is in how the software checks sig, not in the cpu limit. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i don't either. was not discussing the present day politics of it at all. merely, the principle of the matter.

ascii_field: thing is, i don't get the whole concept of having any sympathy whatsoever for 'needs moar room' when 100% of everyone making this argument is either usg shill or their useful idiots

mircea_popescu: they are not, and i can't stand the us trend of taking out the brake in question.

nubbins`: a few people stand around a sack on the ground, figuring out what to do with it. one fatso says "i want to put so many things inside that only i can carry it around!"

mircea_popescu: i am not persuaded by that proposition.

mircea_popescu: and the sum total of what i said is, of all the approaches considered i've seen, none includes a fucking cap over that button.

mircea_popescu: if i sell at 20, will sell 1, and make a profit of 20, and the remaindert will be worth 20k.

mircea_popescu: if i sell at 10, i will sell 10, and make a profit of 100, and the remainder 90 will be worth 9k.

mircea_popescu: the reason i ask if you kept shop, ascii_field, is the following :

nubbins`: i don't think that banging sluts is a thing that someone who is driving around europe going to /incubators/ is doing

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i'm still in search of this gedankenbenefit that outweights 'you can't pour nodes into concrete any more, ever'

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Relieve pressure by ranting on a blog? Sounds like it could work. I'll have another look at the incubators

nubbins`: williamdunne understand this is like "i have a new business idea: an e-business!" in 1992

mircea_popescu: must be at least a dozen in london by now, i lost count.

relaxedman: nubbins`: like gnome or xfce. punkman yea I know. using the foundations guide and it stops before I can get anything installed.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i get it. but i was trying to illustrate how allowing anyone to make the sphincter permanently dilate by spending a fixed cost gets you into 'amplification vulnerability'

btcdrak: oh I am still voiced

mircea_popescu: btcdrak ya it was i nthe logs.

mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dun have any objective whatsoever here. i am merely surveying a field.

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Eh, while you might think that a fair number of the people I spoke to disagreed.

ascii_field: mike_c: i very much see the ratcheting increase as an 'enemy-can-spend-fixing to cost-me-fixint-multipled-by-forever'

mircea_popescu: "i have an idea for a us tv network - primarily targetting spanish daytime soaps and more languages programming".

mike_c: mircea_popescu: the entirety of this is "if people actually really really want to see it growing", no more. << interesting idea, but unless *we* want to see it grow I don't see point of writing it up yet.

trinque: williamdunne: my point was simply that "I could X as long as I find a rich guy that wants to help" isn't much of a strategy, much less so if you can't demonstrate upon meeting said rich guy that you can execute

williamdunne: Well at least I'm not in a lonely club.

mircea_popescu: (if you're an engineer trying to solve an engineering problem of some kind, i mean)

mircea_popescu: nah, i'm sure that's valuable ip.

gribble: I have not seen indiancandy2.

ascii_field: williamdunne: if i want to send money to usg, i can send it straight to usg

mircea_popescu: williamdunne so call up nsa, tell them "hey, i'm another derpy kid trying to suck of your tit, send me 10k ?"

nubbins`: pogoplug node operators 2 years from now: http://i.imgur.com/qc9Tok1.jpg

mircea_popescu: generally it's "the proof i am smart enough to have small projects is i nthe pudding of how i have enough money laying around to invest in them". it's how people get redecoration done and their hobbies financed.

jurov: williamdunne: you remember indiancandy? "but i want money!!!!"

mircea_popescu: ascii_field still, i tell you i don't see it. if the bitcoin userbase legitimately makes > 1mb of txn every 10 minutes, and if the miners are willing to indulge them and mine to the degree the ratchet kicks in, seems at best disingenuous to say "you can't do that because pogos".

mircea_popescu: williamdunne write something about puppies make a post on social media with links to your "campaign" ? offer things on bitcointalk ? convince me to list on mpex ? i dunno dood, you're too vague to be helped yet.

mircea_popescu: ascii_field i suppose it doesn't JUST pose problems for bitcoinfs.

mircea_popescu: well if, but i don't see it so far. build a scenario.

kakobrekla: yes i understand this is a play on diff algo.

mircea_popescu: i can certainly see the argument in this structural sense.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the reason i consider ratcheting (and, ergo, growing at all) blocks to be a situation of 'enemy can deal more damage than he has to pay for' is that even if people pay per kB, ~actual machines are pots of finite depth~

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#124048 << the best argument i can come up with, after some searching, is "we will need to find a real value. we have a current value, which works, but about which we know for a fact is not too large. therefore, it might be the case it's too small." ☝︎

mircea_popescu: we're not discussing that point, i already conceded i have nfi.

ascii_field: 'Stalin had his eye on the Spanish gold because Spain had a mother lode of it. This was owing to the fact that twenty years prior, Spain had been neutral in World War I. During that war, Spain exported so much to the belligerents, without being able to buy in return, that it stacked up foreign exchange and turned it in for gold. The same thing had happened across the neutral nations, from Argentina to Holland to the

ascii_field: and of course i was thinking only of transactions where physical motion of bars takes place

mircea_popescu: i would guess there's to the tune of 1mn interbank PM physical transfers a year worldwide. i don't think i'm qualified to answer either, but i will swear to your benefit the real figuree's closer to 1mn than 1k no prob.

mircea_popescu: because one hour i spent in the ro vault, which is a tiny affair, saw three transfers underway.

ascii_field: but overall i just don't see this future where mega-blocks are a necessary thing

jurov: i had an idea based on fees/volume (increase only when that ratio gets outrageous) but first waiting to see what actually happens

ascii_field: because now i can't use 1MB antifuse roms, etc.

williamdunne: ;;later tell pete_dushenski would you mind telling me which posts? Sorry I've not been keeping on top of scoop so much. Tryna find someone who can put up some money to get my time-sink launched

mircea_popescu: my position being very much like ascii_field's : not clear this is needed and dubious it's a good idea before the two get hanged. but op may disagree ? i dunno.

williamdunne: Sorry, I meant they've been doing it previously

mircea_popescu: ascii_field as to the later, no reason. as to the former, no idea. i suffer from the disease of all cerebral beings, of enjoying the consideration of abstract problems in no direct relation to their practical utility.

jurov: nubbins`: i think the derps will try to spam btc to make people switch to xtc,

nubbins`: oh, no, sorry. i apologize.

danielpbarron: jurov, that thing i linked about taxes and dropbox is by someone in here: wilbns

trinque: I got your sort of constitution right here

trinque: I just put files on an http in that case

trinque: I use cron-job rsync wherever other folks might use dropbox or the like

thestringpuller: trinque: says rsync as I'm installing it and conetmplating it for take unrelated to channel

trinque: chetty: I've long lamented that they don't just "file your taxes" for you

jurov: i did convert one dude to self-hosted seafile, but otherwise, meh.

assbot: What I Learned From a Two-Year IRS Audit — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1NofGX6 )

danielpbarron: https://medium.com/@wilbns/what-i-learned-from-a-two-year-irs-audit-6b02f8bb4f73 >> Consider keeping Dropbox folders on your computer that match up with everything so you can easily reference everything. This way, your most important documents are backed up and ready to share when needed. ☟︎

kakobrekla: anyway, since the switches are only binary i dont actually check for values cause its more work and im lazy

ascii_field: i see colour in both modes ?

kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015&bots=true#1240240 < i added 'kindergarten' mode for him ☟︎

mike_c: from what I remember the framerate wasn't awesome, but entirely usable.

mike_c: I used to, yeah. before you did the thing with the binaries

shinohai: I got to stop being lazy and find me a shitty old desktop so I can try eulora again.

shinohai: It *is* a court for sure. I should like to see more trial by combat though.

thestringpuller: i like to think of it more a great hall

jurov: but to 2FA.. you'd have to keep reusing the same hookers, i spose

thestringpuller: ascii_field: i thought the whole reason a "debate" even existed is because 90% of reddit's /r/bitcoin is full of socialist who likely own 0.1 btc each to their name and think they are gonna change the world. ☟︎

punkman: it worked then with spare cpu cycles, I don't think you can have that again

ascii_field: kinda the plan, i think

ascii_field: nah i can die so usg becomes sole relayer.

assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 09:31:55; mircea_popescu: it'd have to look a lot more like the above than like anything i've seen,

ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240336 << i'm curious re: why this should ever be necessary; and why one ought to even consider opening this portcullis until long after the siege is lifted and the last gavinist is hanged ☝︎

fluffypony: oh wow I actually found the speech

shinohai: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/playing-tetris-can-help-reduce-craving-for-drugs-food-and-sex-study-728802 <<< I have yet to tell a woman that messaged me for a booty call "Sorry not tonite, I'm playing Tetris."

shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-08-2015#1240225 <<< I think so too now, I usually only use default mem value on new machine :/ ☝︎

fluffypony: I know, it was a little out of character, but I was extremely pissed off that the guy didn't have the balls to come talk to me himself

mircea_popescu: you know i have trouble picturing you telling some random woman to fuck off ?

fluffypony: I bet they launch an altcoin next

mircea_popescu: i know him.

mircea_popescu: so tell her "listen, i want to hear the speaker to i can mock him as well."

fluffypony: mircea_popescu: well I wanted to hear the speaker so I could mock him on Twitter as well, so I didn't have time for a protracted conversation with the stupid cow

fluffypony: I know right

fluffypony: I was WAY meaner to Brock Pierce: https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/589046879054336000

fluffypony: then they tweeted a few hours later about how I wasn't welcome at future Bitcoin Africa conferences because I was disrespectful

fluffypony: so I go "well then you can fuck off too"

fluffypony: so then she goes "well I'm just the messenger"

fluffypony: so I go "well then he can man up and come and talk to me himself, else he must fuck off"

fluffypony: so then she says "well I think you shouldn't tweet that"

fluffypony: so I go "who?", because I'd been tweeting out mean things about a lot of idiots that were presenting

fluffypony: and asked me if I was @fluffyponyza, which I said I wa

fluffypony: ridiculed him on Twitter I mean

fluffypony: I ridiculed one of the presenters because he had a slide on how Bitcoin solves the Byzantine generals problem