asciilifeform: dun change the fact.

asciilifeform: vs erdos.

asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu is considerably more familiar with the 'rot yer body, rot yer mind', 'clean the bath 1,001 times' sort of dope user.

asciilifeform: let's have to this standard.

asciilifeform: i am satisfied, for instance, that the boxing ring - does.

asciilifeform: no evidence that moderate intake of ~just about any dope, affects memory.

asciilifeform: at any rate the 'all psychoactives' thing is poppycock.

asciilifeform: not speaking of chronic brain damage here, but of 'i fuhget which one i fucked'

asciilifeform always suspected that 'fuhgettting', such as happens to drunks, is very similar to other things which happen to drunks, in being substantially a matter of ~wanting to~

asciilifeform: clearly i have not been sufficiently drunk ?

asciilifeform: ~sleep debt~ will zap memory, yes.

asciilifeform: baseless generalization.

asciilifeform: *memory-full

asciilifeform: a memory-less situation is quite incompatible with 'comfortable existence' for these folx.

asciilifeform: 'ME TOO!!!1111'

asciilifeform: straight imitation.

asciilifeform: to go up stack: the 'delete my history of disgraceful failure OR ELSE!1111' thing is an idiocy that does not come from empty space, but from monkeys watching lizard organs do ~same thing routinely

asciilifeform: i can rarely be arsed these days.

asciilifeform at one point had an automatic thing for this, but it rusted

asciilifeform: https://yandex.ru/search/?text=michael%20o%20church%20trilema << finds immediately.

asciilifeform: no doubt.

asciilifeform: perhaps it is only the trilema result that was yanked. nfi.

asciilifeform wonders how the shmuck got pulled from google

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit << subj.

asciilifeform: 0 google hits btw

asciilifeform: for some reason the michael church thing comes to mind

asciilifeform: waiwat

asciilifeform: dafuq is that

asciilifeform: l

asciilifeform: le

asciilifeform: pnoje appz?

asciilifeform: (fits, or does not, the 'nailgunned for not playing nice' scenario ?)

asciilifeform: i still have nfi what her political place was

asciilifeform: it must have been a clean job, no constellations of police or whatevers afterward.

asciilifeform: lulzily i had just freshly come back from that part of bmore, when i read the nyooz item re the old woman.

asciilifeform: (in usa, this is typically not nyooz, recall the missouri governor - typically a whole president has to get plugged before it is nyooz)

asciilifeform: iirc was some bureaucrat ?

asciilifeform: aha?

asciilifeform: so long as it stays a 'disorganized' thing.

asciilifeform: normally nobody gives half a shit

asciilifeform: in usa, hoodlums stab, shoot, club, push off cliff, run over, cops every day of the week

asciilifeform: ' If (1) the victim was (A) a government officer or employee; (B) a former government officer or employee; or (C) a member of the immediate family of a person described in subdivision (A) or (B); and (2) the offense of conviction was motivated by such status, increase by 3 levels.'

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/08/louisiana-enacts-and-new-york-considers-protecting-law-enforcement-with-hate-crime-laws/#comment-66094

asciilifeform: go and try to insure a pile of usd you keep in your mattress, see what, e.g., lloyds, answers.

asciilifeform: moral hazard: 1) insure 2) 'lose' 3) find 4) profit!!!

asciilifeform: which is perhaps the ultimate in 'moral hazard' and a crock of shit

asciilifeform: or against 'losing coins'

asciilifeform: insurance against flood, fires ?

asciilifeform: to a muppet, anyone who refuses to participate in the consensual 'reality' is dangerous lunatic.

asciilifeform: then they derp about 'obvious signs of mental illness'

asciilifeform: through mountains etc.

asciilifeform: y'know, like the tsar who drew a line on the map with a pencil and ordered rail laid just-so

asciilifeform: didn't i.

asciilifeform: i did say! typical work of heathendom.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and quite possibly. if anyone cared to reverse the client, all kinds of marvels may yet become possible.

asciilifeform: *dose

asciilifeform: sort of like having a log, except in everybody's client at once, and with heavy does of 'promise' (vs protocol)

asciilifeform: ask ~them~, not me, why this is necessary.

asciilifeform: when he was in the lift.

asciilifeform: when boss keys in a message, but he is in a lift, so it doesn't post until he comes out, but he wants it pinned to time T

asciilifeform: and yes.

asciilifeform: the proprietary clients do such things as guaranteed retro-ordering of messages, very frustrating to folks raised on irc, but the folks who have it - expect it.

asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes eats off this, just for some niche industry somewhere

asciilifeform: eh, supporting the various smart-pnoje clients alone probably employs a whole slave galley

asciilifeform: *we got

asciilifeform: it is really 'we want tmsr-like machine but all get got is a pile of usd, let's have whatever much cardboard approximation it buys'

asciilifeform: and comes with pnoje APP!!1111 etc.

asciilifeform: and of course it charges.

asciilifeform: why not, thinks luser, put money in the clown head, and eat.

asciilifeform: because then someone has to sweat, setting up logz, search, bots, etc.

asciilifeform: is a pretty typical work of heathendom.

asciilifeform: shinohai: it lives in the land of 'aol messenger', microshit outlook, etc.

asciilifeform has used

asciilifeform: proprietary proggy, central server, etc.

asciilifeform: https://slack.com << often used by american software co. sorta like irc-cum-logz for the terminally lazy

asciilifeform: euro buncha-dudes-in-a-cellar

asciilifeform: iirc slock was euro

asciilifeform: slack is an american vc corp thing

asciilifeform: slock is this orc subcontractor that only existed in light of ethertardium

asciilifeform: (slack is a chat thing?)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: slack? or slock ?

asciilifeform: launch from shore.

asciilifeform: whichever payload appropriate for the occasion.

asciilifeform: atomic. or cocainiferous. etc.

asciilifeform: guidance via oceanographic db.

asciilifeform: if yer gonna have a nuke in the thing...

asciilifeform: speaking of '50km monster', i always wondered why not 'intercontinental torpedo'

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: looks like it has not become cheaper, either..?

asciilifeform: torpedo easily cost year's pay of officer.

asciilifeform: hence deck guns.

asciilifeform: even in ww2, with actual navies, most targets weren't worth a torpedo.

asciilifeform: (aha, and mircea_popescu will say, 'steal 1,001 of them' but then why not also steal ship.)

asciilifeform: torpedo per se is a costly pleasure.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it needs such things as locks and seals. the plywood boats are very spartan affairs, lacking even flush toilet.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sub in question is not the ru diesel thing, but the plywood handcraft items BingoBoingo refers to, their only defense is to motor in the other direction when they notice pursuit. hence wankery re 'stealth' patrol boats etc.

asciilifeform: i have nfi, it perhaps claims to 'engage' even martians, for all i know.

asciilifeform: or sumthing.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought they were for smugglers with subs

asciilifeform: same 'design process' as made every usg outpost a horrendous mess of bollards and spikes