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mircea_popescu: bahwhahahahaha. random douche who thinks "waiters" = the douches just like him moving around tgi tuesdays is going to TEACH something, by repeating it over and over. an' thart something ain't gonna be "this fat poor sucker's also a jerk". it's gonna be something else. because he's the not so little train engine that can!
mircea_popescu: you ain't homosexual or a male, sweetie. you're just a girl with too much loose change in her brainbox.
mircea_popescu: no, that's not the issue. the issue is that a dumbass feminist who ate enough so you can't distinguish her wasp bites from man boobs imagines herself a "homosexual male".
mircea_popescu: THAT is the problem. idiot imagines what sane people will choke on is the notion that she's a dumbass feminist.
mircea_popescu: "Most people would assume I am a walking oxymoron. At least, they would assume the latter part of that word. However, I am here today to give you a glimpse of how it is possible to be a cissexual heterosexual white male intersectional feminist and how I’m living proof.
mircea_popescu: that's just fucking dumb. privilege is being thin, as a male.
punkman: "The patriarchy expects me to be a big burly man to soak up all the privilege I can. However, I find that the thinner you are as a male, the more willing people are to interact with you because you are not so threatening. As I get thinner, the patriarchy has a harder time keeping a hold on me because I can slip through its fingers more easily."
assbot: Objective Cis Het White Male - How to be a Cis Het White Male Intersectional... ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJ2w46 )
punkman: http://sans-fedora.tumblr.com/post/131425088491/how-to-be-a-cis-het-white-male-intersectional
punkman: "People call themselves a sushi chef after two to four years of making sushi, or going from restaurant to restaurant instead of taking up an apprenticeship. That doesn’t fly in my book. When a white sushi chef says, “I would work there, but it was too demanding,” then I say you are definitely too weak and we are not cut from the same cloth."
assbot: Confessions of a White Sushi Chef | First We Feast ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1x6cZ )
punkman: http://firstwefeast.com/eat/confessions-of-a-white-sushi-chef/
punkman: "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason.  There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases.  Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 05:29:33; asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 15:01:36; mircea_popescu: this will also add a 0.7-.8 expense on the s.nsa books, but hey, whatchagonnado.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 23:38:07; mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 22:32:49; asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible
trinque lets the new deedbot node have a taste
asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: line dies multiple times a day, every day sorta thing
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or any other ebay junkie) http://www.ebay.com/itm/USSR-SPY-KGB-Secret-Phone-line-Digital-Scrambler-GNC-9-3-9-3-/290854902161 << interesting piece of shit, with no historical record anywhere net-accessible of its existence. might make for a mega-article.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh > build-bitco ☟︎
mod6: are you trying to sync against a single node?
phf: he was a strong willed man, and many people from former su countries paid their respects, i'd feel accomplished in life if i can live up to his legacy
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349573 << i could crap out a limited subset of toolchain adequate to demonstrate workflow with/out emacs if you'd like ☝︎
asciilifeform: i see a 46.166.160.36
asciilifeform: with zoolag a close second
assbot: 20 results for 'bucephalus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bucephalus
assbot: 69 results for 'zoolag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=zoolag
mod6: one thing at a time though.
mod6: <+trinque> yes but this is seriously layered and needs to be smashed into one script. << this is a good point there a bunch of gyrations in the current script that could be folded all into one better script.
kakobrekla: its a fast moving targer
mod6: There's a bunch of loose ends. We're getting there...
mod6: I've got a short week this week. I'll get some of that cleaned up.
mod6: yea, we need a "get your TEST2 up and going" section.
mircea_popescu: yes but a "here's where you start" pointer must exist.
mircea_popescu: sorta went at it obliquely. but definitely gotta make it a release.
mod6: ofc it could be helpful and spit that stuff out to stdout and let a fella know.
mircea_popescu: mod6 one thing to consider : rather than a wd to set the wot dir, simply have it put stuff under current dir ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so it's a marvel we're only off by a dword
mod6: this is a good point kako.
mircea_popescu: Error: To use bitcoind, you must set a rpcpassword in the configuration file
mircea_popescu: a ok\
asciilifeform: this is necessary when running a musl executable on a heathen (glibc) linux
asciilifeform increasingly certain that his magic rotolinux cd will have to be... a bootable one
mod6: I am following my exact instructions above ^^^ nearly done building a rotor+V+TEST2.
mod6: Then if you take that paste, chmod +x it, run it, it /should/ pull down all of the deps (still not complete, grabs stuff over the web), pull down V, press a 'TEST2', then build rotor, and then finally bitcoind inside of it.
mod6: Ok mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque : The latest version of my rotor+V+TEST2 script is here: http://dpaste.com/1R04312.txt : All you should need to do before hand is create a ~/.wot dir and add; "asciilifeform.asc", "mircea_popescu.asc", "mod6.asc", "ben_vulpes.asc", "trinque.asc", and "punkman.asc" into that directory.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir. << alright
trinque: oh and btw, linked the script to say "I have used this and it works" not "this is a release according to mod6"
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml << no. it "works" as far as I and others have tried it -- it relies upon haveing my, alf's, mp's, ben's, and trinque's keys in a ~/.wot dir iirc.
BingoBoingo: in a way you could say that
mircea_popescu: yup there's musl too. aaaite, ima let it be for a bit then
asciilifeform: (my rotor.sh would have been a standard makefile, but gnumake has problems invoking makes recursively)
mircea_popescu: right. so i now notice it made a rotor dir
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319 even worth loading into a system in 2015.
mircea_popescu: mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir.
pete_dushenski: that it was only in logs was a bit odd
trinque: did output a usable product thereafter, and it's running on a debian, was built on a gentoo where it also ran.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 23:33:24; mircea_popescu: the moment we go off mod6 instructions and into alf instructions we suddenly need a rear admiral and five airline pilots.
mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ? ☟︎
trinque: he does. I have run it and am syncing a bitcoind from its product.
asciilifeform: somehow i thought that mod6 et al had something like a build system
mircea_popescu: the moment we go off mod6 instructions and into alf instructions we suddenly need a rear admiral and five airline pilots. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: she returned with an error, after going very smoothly throughout everything mod6 made, hour and a half ago.
mircea_popescu: listen to me : TWO HOURS ago i gave a girl a task.
mircea_popescu: oddly the script i'm using as a guide to hack this together uses boost="http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost" curl -L "$boost/1.52.0/boost_1_52_0.tar.gz" \ for some reason, unlike in the other two cases.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html also has a 1) hash 2) link to original vendor www
asciilifeform: sorta why i wanted a cd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "6) in it, set up a stator dir, e.g., /home/luser/rotor/stator and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before." << what the fuck do you think this means ?
asciilifeform: incidentally this is something a fella like pete_dushenski, who is very much fond of writing reviews/expositions/etc. could make a dent in
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:21:34; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if you do musl rotor correctly, after stripping the elf you get a roughly 4M bin.
mircea_popescu: ah what a pleasant day in the resistance.
asciilifeform: as discussed about a day ago
asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible ☟︎
mircea_popescu: when one executes v-magic upon the genesis patch one must end up with a ready-to-go bitcoin.
asciilifeform: mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml
mircea_popescu: obviously just dumping it in as a node isn't right, but we gotta have it somehow
mircea_popescu: the idea here is to get a certain result through a certain process
asciilifeform: (rotor is a superset of stator that builds own compiler with - in my latest ver. - musl)
mircea_popescu: hmm, so this produces a press directory, which contains a bitcoin src, but there's no autogen.sh and how do you make this thing ?
mircea_popescu: apparently it has a mirror list and then an init command.
asciilifeform: (a seal, recall, is a signature of a particular patch)
asciilifeform: (at some point i may or may not do a dietlibc and uclibc variant)
asciilifeform: all 3 of my currently operating trb nodes are using a rotor-on-musl build
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:59; pete_dushenski: e. also, that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster
pete_dushenski: do you have a poster of drepper's face on your wall with a hitler stache, devil eyes, and a horns carved in ?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:58; pete_dushenski: and after actually reading up a bit on glibc instead of telling myself "oh that's nice, alf's done another miraculous thing, which'd be the third this week, each of which is so miraculous that idkwtf it is, if it even applies to anything in my universe", i found that one of the glibc maintainers is florian weimar of http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through
mircea_popescu: that may have a lot to do with the age of the mammals.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:58; pete_dushenski: and after actually reading up a bit on glibc instead of telling myself "oh that's nice, alf's done another miraculous thing, which'd be the third this week, each of which is so miraculous that idkwtf it is, if it even applies to anything in my universe", i found that one of the glibc maintainers is florian weimar of http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:24:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, where's teh instructions for pressing a trb ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, where's teh instructions for pressing a trb ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 09:57:30; mircea_popescu: it's to date the largest reply i ever had to make in an irc conversation, but it is in fact a reply in an irc conversation.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349278 << sorta hard to play the other side of the conversation when you simultaneously take every possible rebuttal or objection, pin it down, and kill it, like some kind of laboratory experimenter playing with a mouse in a hall of mirrors with no exit ;/ ☝︎
pete_dushenski: e. also, that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and after actually reading up a bit on glibc instead of telling myself "oh that's nice, alf's done another miraculous thing, which'd be the third this week, each of which is so miraculous that idkwtf it is, if it even applies to anything in my universe", i found that one of the glibc maintainers is florian weimar of http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through-forward-secrecy/ ☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "with the caveat that as the reunion of Ys starts approaching the universe, you're getting closer and closer to the nagant ending." << can you expand on this point ? is it that being overwhelmed on account of previous complacency and previous failures to eat the elephant one bite at a time, as those bites appeared, can only lead to suicide ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349426 << lol it's definitely a close contest. ☝︎