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mircea_popescu: people think it's
a major breakthrough in money, but that's doubtful. it is however
a string of major breakthroughs in systems theory.
mircea_popescu: and if there isn't
a way for your "rule" to be made to satisfy this,
a) it's not
a rule and b) shut up and do some meditation, you're verging on stupid.
mircea_popescu: "all rules re
a key are expressed inside
a key such that being ignored breaks the whole thing"
ascii_rear: where all rules re:
a key are expressed INSIDE the key
mircea_popescu: not
a "wait, band2 says this key is no longer good so you gotta consider this when looking in band now!11"
ascii_rear: i can see
a case for 'modulus only' key
ascii_rear: signed statement associating
a memorable human name with the signing modulus
mod6: its just
a number, how can
a name be relevant?
ascii_rear: name also cannot be enforced - conceivably someone could distribute
a key with name field stripped
ascii_rear: or is it
a useful signed expression of intent when key was made
mircea_popescu: and there's
a tie-in here about how all systems should fail deadly anyway, and consequently "timestamps" are not even allowed in the design because no way to enforce them.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: IF (YET ANOTHER EXTRA STEP!!11!) B responds that
A's contract should be "set aside" (WHAT ?!?!) because "the law" (2nd band) says that bla bla,
mircea_popescu: EXTRA STEP BECAUSE FUCKING STUPID MULTIBANDS!!!1! C now confronts B about
A's contract.
mircea_popescu:
A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces
a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".
mircea_popescu: in this situation as described,
A can make
a determination ~without~
A having to be human. it's what you'd call
a "strict" determination.
mircea_popescu:
A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces
a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".
mircea_popescu: suppose
a world composed of three thinking agents,
A, B and C.
mircea_popescu: best phrase some sort of objection or something tho, to establish
a common ground somewhere.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 14:08:41; mircea_popescu: this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for
a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.
BingoBoingo: Wait, I though buttnix was
a closed IBM AnusIX distro
mircea_popescu: (pro tip : woman that would die to defend her clothes put among
a dozen nude damsels will cast off every last stitch like it were radioactive)
shinohai: I sent her
a PM and told her she should come here and show her tits for 0.1. Obviously no reply.
BingoBoingo: feminist is just
a code word for boys insecure about their penis
shinohai: Has
a smattering of btctalk posts as well, with feminist tones
mircea_popescu: no idea how all these fucktards expect anyone to take them seriously. "oh, i'm
a master, that's my slave"
mircea_popescu: lemme tell you - after
a decade of "the tallest, the slimest, the hottest chicks at the bdsm party are the ones you brought" it gets fucking old.
punkman: "The sandbox games has now become what the 3rd-person shooter was not too long ago, the default setting that tends to get rolled out for generic action games after the creative team have sat around
a blank whiteboard all morning and started hankering for an early lunch."
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 06:09:34; thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as
a kid.
mircea_popescu: (contract elongation is
a direct result of the channel trying to fight against noise in "out of band" communication. take that away, you're golden)
mircea_popescu: the less said, the less possibility of misunderstanding, which is why the main quality of
a contract is being brief. the fewer venues communication may occur in, the fewer indecidable problems you'll meet. this rly is not rocket science.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for
a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:09:59; phf: so expiration date on key is literally
a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to
okcupiddude: Yeah, i saw that you are
a businessman, an so am i
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:57:31; gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known
a cat (the animal) with
a cocaine habit?
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as
a kid.
☟︎ phf: what i meant is something like this
http://paste.lisp.org/display/304383. of course each execution of script creates
a fresh gnupg keys folder, imports the wot, import from sks if we're going that way, does the operation, kills the gnupg folder
pete_dushenski: aha. "i told mama i'd be
a millionaire someday!" says guy with "home equity" and "registered retirement account". so there he stays.
ascii_rear: if there were any danger of usaschwitz inmates escaping on masse to this, lizards would print enough bezzlars to bid'em up to washington price - like in b-
a.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: 'american is never given money, he is merely shown it and allowed to hold in his hands for
a spell to be reminded that it exists'
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:36:47; pete_dushenski: "
A friend’s place in
a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280
a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post
a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'
phf: contributors. an obvious next step is to have
a gpg --verify buildroot.sig rely on the contents of .wot folder, by, for example, making
a temp directory, doing
a for pubkey in .wot/*.asc; do gpg --homedir $tmpdir --import $pubkey; done, then doing gpg --homedir $tmpdir --verify foo.sig; then rm -rf $tmpdir. this way
a .wot folder is
a canonical source of pubkeys always and for all operations
phf: i understand all that, and i was explaining that there's no conceptual integrity to it, as it stands. we have
a .wot folder which is supposed to be
a manually curated folder of <nick>.asc files. there were
a few threads where mp and ascii argued that the folder should not be generated automatically (no sks or pre packaged tar files). so if one wants to build
a rotor they need
a .wot folder with pubkeys of all the foundation
mod6: so that is checked independently of V. what V does is
a whole separate ball of wax.
phf: yeah, so the case with mod6's version, after
a #b-
a thread
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:44:33; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while the parallel of the more-than-semi-socialist government and the farmer is mostly very apt,
a higher mortality rate doesn't have the same downside cost for the former as the latter. the best thing for the usg would be
a plague, if only to bring the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into
a more (if still ultimately un-)manage
phf: could probably add
a subset of foundation related operations to v, so that staging process uses consistent mechanism (to avoid issues like i have the key in .wot but can't seem to verify??)
phf: so expiration date on key is literally
a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to
☟︎ mod6: phf the deal here is that the build script tries to verify the pgp sig of buildroot -- which is
a process outside of v, so
a key needs to be imported directly into the gpg keyring.
phf: thestringpuller: v and gpg --verify use different mechanisms for key management. pgp uses keyrings, v hides keyrings by using .wot folder to store pubkeys as asc files. so when
a key expires, your best option really is to fetch
a key somehow (???), import it into gpg's keyring so that --verify works AND save it into .wot
mod6: you need to import this public key to you keyring -- there is
a comment that outlines the keys you need in the top of the script: 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319
gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known
a cat (the animal) with
a cocaine habit?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "
A friend’s place in
a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280
a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post
a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lobbes you have to appreciate that marx is
a minor thinker. it's not that people've not read it. it's that his output is about as intellectually important as any other diet guru / expert in expertises.
lobito: it's
a classic :P promise it won't turn you into
a communist
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while the parallel of the more-than-semi-socialist government and the farmer is mostly very apt,
a higher mortality rate doesn't have the same downside cost for the former as the latter. the best thing for the usg would be
a plague, if only to bring the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into
a more (if still ultimately un-)manageable positio
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: apologies ben_vulpes ima give him
a little leeway seeing how i laid into him
mircea_popescu: and the most annoying thing about this all is that they fucking had
a strongarm regime.
ben_vulpes: this strikes me as
a not-half-bad strategy: live in poverty for 9 mos, travel (also in poverty, but looking sooper cool) around fucking the young hotties for 1.5, come home and live on someone's couch looking for the next cafe that needs
a warm body.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the one thing that boggles my mind the most in all this is that none of them seem to realise that yes there's something fucking wrong with not owning
a cocktail dress and spending all your time on netflix.
mircea_popescu: messi is
a spanish dude that's pretending to not piss on you lot for the endorsements.
lobito: but there are
a few famous ones
ben_vulpes: blondie with
a great rack took lady v and myself to
a mega club when we were there. name completely slips my memory, but it was
a giant reggaeton/cumbia shitshow palace. no fuckrooms, all concrete
mircea_popescu: it should have no less than
a dozen tables and
a few fuckrooms. etc.
mircea_popescu:
a club is
a space dedicated to sluts being as close as naked as possible and to keeping young cocks of the type that work in co-ops mostly out. it should be no less than 1k sq meters floor surface with no less than two levels.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 01:17:07; pete_dushenski: i guess that
a forced vaccine seems like
a pound of flesh too far, but on the other hand, when you already have income tax and sales tax and inflation tax and etc etc. maybe not ?
mircea_popescu: you know ? whole fucking country has garages the size of discos and otherwise clubs the size of
a closet.
mircea_popescu: can you explain to me what the fuck is wrong with argentines ? there is not
a single fucking club in this entire town.