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trinque: hitler doesn't want you to talk to nodes X Y Z, so he barfs up packets with
a heathen commands.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: lol "the popularity of
a tool is proportionate to the amount of time it makes its users waste"
ben_vulpes: emacs is
a good example of tools with which to throttle complexity, aka intelligence augmentation
trinque: ben_vulpes: that thing gets to be called
a desktop environment at best
adlai: maybe
a smattering of !down syndrome, but that makes in non-absoloot
adlai: if it's absolute, you should be able to build
a stupidometer
adlai: ;;later tell mike_c candle charts lacking
a couple weeks of recency
kakobrekla: adlai i dunno, not being an idiot goes
a long way.
ben_vulpes: don't you dare grow proud of tools that you made to wrap your hands around the shitworld's throat trinque. it's not
a symbolics machine!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have
a linux trb, but I keep sideshow because inertia and curiosity.
ben_vulpes: anyways, this is all
a bloody mystery to me. i've never seen
a sh script crap out midway through and not run its remaining bits, but thats what stator seems to do over here.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: Wasn't even
a BIP, was
a point update trivia << makes me wonder if there are nodes out there that malleate/fellate txs from high-s to low-s and rebroadcast
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 00:35:16; mircea_popescu: <davout> adlai: it's the same kind of stupidity you'll find in "oh, i'll give away some bitcoin for xmas" << i maintain that my "give
a little btc to eager young sluts" beats this "give
a little more btc to people you know or are related to that don't want it" by
a factor of infinity.
mircea_popescu: clearly bitbet lost
a lot of confidence over the bitcoin-sucks debacle
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> yea prb won't relay high-S due to bip-62 << Wasn't even
a BIP, was
a point update trivia
mircea_popescu: mats> pogo is mega expensive now, just about one year following project inception << fortunately we have
a bunch stashed.
mats: asciilifeform: in fact, that doesn't look like
a series 4
mats: asciilifeform: oh, didn't spot that in
a search for 'pogoplug series 4'
mircea_popescu: sooo... it pleases me to announce that private testing shows alf's patch not only removes 80% of bullshit "nodes" trying to connect, but it also improves network thoroughput by
a factor of about 700
mircea_popescu: <adlai> fwiw utxo set size grows indefinitely, whatever the block size. someday it grows larger than the largest affordable RAM, even for mircea_popescus <<< this was discussed here
a number of times, actually.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing
a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
adlai always had
a thing for premature optimisation
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:43:46; adlai: let them spend
a little more. let them scam an ISP off
a half-decent-shitware-router. idc.
adlai: asciilifeform: do you know what
a bloom filter is? you can set it arbitrarily paranoid... ie, more paranoid than ripemd160, which you're forced to use, because.. satoshi!
trinque: propose
a better way to get
a large number of trb nodes in the wild
adlai: let them spend
a little more. let them scam an ISP off
a half-decent-shitware-router. idc.
☟︎ adlai: call it
a nintendo! call it
a crescendo! stop telling people what to run/buy
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing
a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
ben_vulpes: i believe that this tree came from
a v pressing.
ben_vulpes: is ben_vulpes perhaps using
a stale tree?!
mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing
a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: actually you should be able to run 32 bit on
a 64 bit box, neh ?
ben_vulpes: i installed
a /thirty-two/ bit operating system over the past weekend. on
a 64-bit box.
ben_vulpes: above
a threshold? or for any value in that call?
mircea_popescu: more dominant mother doesn't necessarily make worse mother (excepting for crazy outliers known in literature as schizogenic). it's true she has
a tougher time for the first few years, but then once there's teenagers in the house... you'll love every cannon you got.
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, these doods be multiplyin' like rabbits. i think there's more b-
a kids than there's b-
a adults.
thestringpuller: is there
a thread on "generational WoT", when we are all old and gray who takes up the helm?
mircea_popescu: it's not clear, but it may be the case that the mechanism is coopted in their sexual activity and becomes part of what drives child rearing. so they got
a deliberate leak and it never fills.
mircea_popescu: well... it's
a problem of people, it appears. you are born with
a tank, and until it gets filled you're stuck working on filling it. normally it's full by about 12yo in males, but abnormally...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i thought that's
a problem for children not adults.
adlai: it's not
a camp if the campers don't Exist
danielpbarron: i can pay like 3 million for
a night's work (that means you leave it crafting overnight)
davout: there's
a difference between giving something to someone who wants it, and giving something to someone who doesn't
adlai: mircea_popescu: where's your vpatch? do i need to open
a bbet which of us makes one first?
mircea_popescu: <davout> adlai: it's the same kind of stupidity you'll find in "oh, i'll give away some bitcoin for xmas" << i maintain that my "give
a little btc to eager young sluts" beats this "give
a little more btc to people you know or are related to that don't want it" by
a factor of infinity.
☟︎ thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: saw this on reddit and was surprised "Even 1000 euros feel too much to spent for
a much needed new laptop instead of getting some BTC Am I mad?" to which someone replied "And this is why some economists fear Bitcoin -- as expenditures will become more sane. If that laptop made you much more productive, you would still choose to make that purchase rather than saving. But it seems you don't really need that new la
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this seems
a deeply ignored point, all sorts of okcupid chicks honestly expect they'll be entertained just because well... they exist. ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: the poor in all times and places belong on
a conveyor belt towards
a woodchipper. it is however very important to have
a readily accessible door out of the tunnel, for any thinking folk who accidentally fell in.
mircea_popescu: adlai you're not belabouring under the misapprehension that i expect all to be saved, are you ? the point is not that. the point is for there to be
a way for the scant few who don't belong there to save themselves.
mircea_popescu: that bitcoin allows the poor
a venue to actually accumulate capital is really all that matters, for the well being of the world generally.
mircea_popescu: that is the only social function poor people actually need :
a path out of poverty.
adlai: mircea_popescu: this is because today, bitcoin is useless for poor people, and will remain so, without
a reasonably reliable write-cache
mircea_popescu: "I stuck it on
a github repo, which includes
a tarball of the code with detached signature. You can also grab it as
a vpatch with seal if you like. You might see some nodes reporting version 77777; that's what it will claim to be if you run it without modification."
mircea_popescu: hahaha check thios dude out : "Some of you may be aware of
a project called "therealbitcoin" and some of its development history. Over the last few days I forked the project, dropped in the woodcoin genesis block, genesis merkle root, the skein woodcutting algorithm, the logarithmic supply curve, the relevant difficulty adjust parameters, and the magic header code:"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is this comic called "The Boys" where superheroes are just
a thing. Anyhow super heroes cause more trouble than what it's worth. To solve one problem the fuck up 100 other things, so "The Boys" are sent in to keep the peace. I've realized the power rangers do exactly that. Very public displays of "whatever fix", which ends up breaking 50 other things that have to eventually be fixed.
mircea_popescu: this was the exact description of
a "bad math" situation htroughout the history of science.
mircea_popescu: i don't need it to answer absolutely. i just need it to reduce by
a factor of 10^20 rather than by
a factor of maybe 10^3
mircea_popescu: but not provable that
a good heuristic intermediate between "closed form" and "fuck you" is absent for fundamental reasons.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 20:15:26; BingoBoingo: Did this Kristov Atlas fellow ever have
a presence in either WoT, this is the stupid sort of twitter rambling that demands an ideological negrate
https://archive.is/fIuTA assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 20:07:18; asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu will probably tell us that he oughta have shot
a cop somewhere.
mircea_popescu: it should also not be the case that there isn't
a trb path between you and miners.
thestringpuller: Basically all "new" PRB-nodes will refuse to relay high-S tx's to the network. Miners will still mine them though. But interesting that
a high-s transaction has high probability to get fellated and malleated by network before being mined.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 19:45:08; BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed that, to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using their network, the researchers behind this initiative are planning to create
a PrivaTegrity Council."
ben_vulpes: your reports are from
a different universe from that which i inhabit