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mircea_popescu: (you won'
t get anyone but nerds in the sort of groupthink traps that this sort of stuff is dangertous for)
dub: can'
t shake the feeling that AM is going to be the next pirate level event
mod6: Just lookin at the stuff listed on other sites... I guess they didn'
t get the memo on PGP contracts.
ll: !
t btctc asicminer-pt
inhies: deadweasel: looks like we're coming up on an hour.
t he timestamp in the history page is 2013-05-08 20:35:42
deadweasel: inhies, it's possible it just hasn'
t been picked for a block yet. I've had txns sit in 'pools' for 12 hours at worst, before seeing the first confirmation.
jurov: if the tx it isn'
t there either (and you didn'
t do a typo) then its' btct problem
parseval: I hope you didn'
t set a nickname alert on 'TAT' in your irc client, ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: * RICE CLAIM: "I don'
t think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 5/16/02
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla at least he won'
t be able to say that "nobody knew"
parseval: I don'
t have an mpex account :D
parseval: Though I don'
t have a bot to run either
parseval: hmm, seems inefficient.. I wouldn'
t want to hammer the API like that, it feels impolite
parseval: Nah, the API is all pull, I don'
t see a streaming optioni
parseval: The data's posted in the chat before the page even refreshes. There must be a websocket somewhere that isn'
t exposed..
ThickAsThieves: I actually considered getting into bitcoin pretty early on, but told myself to check in when it was actually worth something. I'd kick myself if it weren'
t for the likelihood that I also wouldve gotten wrapped up in the pirate scandal and gox crash, etc
ThickAsThieves: it's been on an uptrend for 12 hours, a smoke break won'
t kill you
dub: I'd rather go OTC as I can'
t be fucked signing up with the PT exchanges
dub: well I've been holding out for AM to make a platform which doesn'
t seem to be a priority
Framedragger: can'
t be bothered to look up a nethash-vs-time plot somewhere online, could be interesting
dub: tl;dr free markets don'
t exist
dub: they don'
t need to break shit if they own teh CAs
☟︎ benkay: node and spoke works well when you don'
t want a kerjillion nodes
jurov: log.error("Matched trade date:%s earlier than order create date:%s",
t['Date'], o.dateCreated)
parseval: Framedragger: I'm just using this as an intermediary store on my local box for some testing so I don'
t have to throw in a full fledged database.. It's a simple delete and rerun until everything is nailed down with the import. Eventually I'll move out to mysql or postgres for the actual application
Scrat: can'
t go wrong with postgres though
Scrat: not saying that it doesn'
t work. it's just not optimal
davout: if you have the disk space i don'
t see how a well indexed sql storage wouldn'
t be adapted
Scrat: but you wouldn'
t use SQL for storing BIG time series
Framedragger: parseval: yeah i don'
t think sqlite is a good solution in terms of scaling. if you're using ORM abstraction, changing the underlying DB shouldn'
t be a prob, unless you're using some DB-specific functions. postgres is really nice for Shitloads of Data type of situations
Scrat: why not? sqlite isn'
t that bad for time series
parseval: I probably shouldn'
t have used sqlite to store all of gox's historical trade data..
davout: but he didn'
t have a suit
davout: real class doesn'
t need an armani suit
dub: but its come up here a few times and people don'
t seem to want to beleive
benkay: don'
t forget to drop the mic
benkay: it's supposed to be grunted as though by a recruiter who doesn'
t understand the words they use
benkay: lawyers don'
t move that quickly
mod6: i've found a bug or two here and there, but I fix 'em right away if found. I don'
t think anyone really uses it anyway tho...
deadweasel: well that costs money... and hacks don'
t have that.
mod6: but then they don'
t even take time to test its functions apparently? as kakocnut discovered when he went short on that one site btcbutt.sx or something
benkay: telling them won'
t change anything
mod6: 'so why don'
t you quit your negative nancy bullshit' << this kills me
benkay: hashed b is appealing to minimalists but doesn'
t have the multisensory appeal that the magazines are looking for
ThickAsThieves: I've pondered that too, but couldn'
t come up with an obviously better graphic to depict
mod6: but maybe if -dev doesn'
t wreck it before anyone gets a fuckin chance to figure out how cool btc is...
mod6: It worries me about how things are over here. I wanted to have some silver and gld in case of some huge cluster fuck where I need to pay for something in metal as opposed to bitcoin. People over here have heard of bitcoin, but they don'
t know what it is or how to use it, so to them its pretty much "oh thats a scam.."
mod6: It was actually attempted to be delivered on Friday, but somehow the guy didn'
t knock on the door? So I had to walk to the P.O. to sign for it today. But it's all good!
usagi: I wouldn'
t consider ordering from them but I'd buy a 2nd hand unit :)
kakobrekla: >I understand that the reason BFL looked so good is because of the performance per watt, but just because we want low wattage for maximum profits, and just because that's what we based our pre-orders on, still doesn'
t mean it's relevant to "Advertised Performance".
MJR_: i don'
t handle btc or cash
mjr___: k, i don'
t really care if they read it or not
mjr___: i thought i just couldn'
t post
mjr___: jurov: i wouldn'
t be able to comment?
mjr___: i'm a newb...so i can'
t post
jurov: mjr___: even if we put it elsewhere on btctalk, you wouldn'
t be able to comment
mjr___: truff1es: well, i am satisfied in the idea...a system to help people seeking to exchange btc for fiat physically. The blog post may not be clear, may have grammar or spelling errors, etc. But, the IRL exchange already exists, so I can'
t really deal with questions about it existing
mjr___: anyways, that was kinda off topic, point is, look like normal humans, don'
t act crazy, cops will protect and not harrass
mjr___: most cops are cool if you aren'
t a dick
mjr___: i'm guessing story doesn'
t end with handcuffs
mjr___: you could probably do it in front of them and they would say "really? you can'
t use the bathroom like everyone else?"
dub: just don'
t invite genjix
mjr___: you look like a group of friends if you are sitting, AND someone can'
t run as easily
mjr___: i dn'
t really care, if it is valuable it succeeds, if not, it doesn'
t mjr___: this is for people who don'
t want to use gox
mjr___: this isn'
t for people who have gox
mjr___: compared to localbitcoins which is "meet me in this alley over here" (joking but it is let me meet this guy i don'
t know)
mjr___: compare and contrast scenario 1 and 2...my web app can'
t physically protect you
mjr___: again, the app is not necessary...you are free to show up (the fact i would say that is only because people don'
t understand) and do whatever you want
mjr___: bitcoin is easily split up into whatever amount you need, dollars aren'
t mjr___: also IRC won'
t have a one button solution to taking an order
mjr___: IRC still doesn'
t maintain a best bid and ask
mjr___: (hence GPS, if you aren'
t there i can'
t take your order huh?)
mjr___: just so you know, i don'
t really care about the second one
joecool: mircea_popescu: why don'
t you go in #bitcoin-otc anymore?
mjr___: can'
t get comments to work right yet
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu you haven'
t played vidya games until you've played mega man 2
kakobrekla: >Small issues friend. We are attempting to make our exchange very reputable. I don'
t see value this year, but 10 years down the road when crypto-currencies are truly the trend. Our vision is to build a long lasting product for our market - We need a good team to do that.
mircea_popescu: I am just speculating but it seems to me that Mircea isn'
t really a racist even though he could have conveyed his point more gently by considering the history of racism and ethnic discrimination in the U.S. and the fact that Bitcoin is popular within the same demographic of people that will actually read him, despite his Armenian descent he could have been more considerate of other nations
benkay: don'
t know what you're talking about, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can'
t get radioactive material into that space ;/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well provider i use didn;'
t have your stick and i didn'
t press the issue
benkay: they don'
t understand the costs of institutionally embedded knowledge either