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jborkl: I don'
t remember who has the other 3
jurov: ofc bitbet won'
t approve it, but i'm certain some dude will come up with it (if it did not already)
ThickAsThieves: [16:47] <eeeCurrency_com> no... is that like that magic 8ball game? That can'
t be a serious tool
Namworld: It was short lived. The FatCat in town doesn'
t like his title to be usurped (aka nick is registered)
ThickAsThieves: if even *I* won'
t open a PT there, you know there's a problem
Namworld: I don'
t think lecturers are there to teach anything Bitcoin related... just startups related.
mircea_popescu: you don'
t know what you don'
t put the effort in to learn.
Namworld: I don'
t think it matters. It's not like Bitcoin is hard to understand. The professors aren'
t bitcointalk.org morons either.
Namworld: Yeah. I don'
t think too much of it. But I find it fun professors have decided to make their student integrate Bitcoin as the payment system instead of something like Paypal.
Namworld: I don'
t see why all the criticism, that's all. Oh. So you expect we'll see a fucking thousand Bitcoin crowdfunding website clones being mass produced at Standford? That would be awful...
Namworld: I didn'
t imply Paypal or Bitcoin were similar at all.
Namworld: But the fact it's Bitcoin isn'
t really important I guess.
Namworld: They don'
t teach Bitcoin at all.
gribble: Error: Couldn'
t get RSS feed.
furuknap: Is it something I'm missing or haven'
t friedcat posted any updates to the thread since June 21?
furuknap: Well, tey can fake that. Can you _prove_ that the NSA haven'
t faked your UK passport, huh?
furuknap: Can you _prove_ that you didn'
t accept the position?
matthew_boyd: Don'
t live in the U.S, don'
t have these problems \o/
jurov: it shouldn'
t be hard to fetch data from bf directly
mircea_popescu: i use white superfluffy shit. i don'
t think white on white writes too well.
Azelphur: does that mean they won'
t run on UK power, though?
dub: don'
t supposed anyone here can confirm BFLs address
jurov: lol kakobrekla, seems evoorhees isn'
t interested in such discussions at all
matthew_boyd: Damn, I wanted to be there so badly, but I couldn'
t in such short notice, anything really good I missed?
furuknap: Wouldn'
t know what to do with them :-)
furuknap: Friedcat said it would be 65nm, but I don'
t know if they changed their minds of course.
furuknap: No, they won'
t because they don'
t have the money. AM isn'
t near having $100M in money because they pay out virtually everything they make in divs. Their tech is always based on prevoius generation, which is cheaper but not nearly efficient enough.
furuknap: All of this, BTW, is why I don'
t think difficulty will keep growing for very long; the risk to large investors (ie those that need to come along to fund next-next gen chips sub 28nm) is simply too great.
furuknap: If they don'
t, they're infinitely less efficient :-)
furuknap: No, the mass production isn'
t there by a long shot. Like I said, KnC (which are the most efficent miners as of now) must sell hardware for $200 million until FEbruary 2014 to maintain 10% network growth. They're not even close to that.
jurov: haven'
t they been made?
Namworld: Well honestly, I don'
t think the halving is what makes the biggest impact on this. The insanely high price of AM and lowering USD/BTC rate does.
furuknap: The cost to go from 28nm to 20nm is very high and someone needs to risk a huge amount of money to possibly succeed in reaping a 1:4 ratio on investment. I don'
t think you'll find many investors willing to risk that.
furuknap: That is because of the halving effect; investments now have much shorter time before halving, so they can'
t be as high as they used to be.
jurov: the article silently assumes when you buy PMB-like stuff, you are buying some % of hashrate... but that couldn'
t be farther from the truth
Namworld: furuknap, you're assuming ASICMINER doesn'
t get smaller process/better ASIC out over time, and that old hardware never goes bust, thus it's always going up.
furuknap: Can'
t comply, sorry. Whether you acknowledge it or not, it still exists and affects pricing today.
furuknap: With the halving effect, AM is losing money for investors every week. With 30TH they wouldn'
t even beat NASDAQ composite.
furuknap: It's reverse calculated by looking at the blocks they solve, not the actual hashrate, so yes, to some extent. I wouldn'
t call it guess but it is based on luck.
Menoetius: isn'
t the publicly known AM hashrate just a guess based on luck ?
Namworld: Didn'
t find the light color too annoying. It's not like most backgrounds on the web around light colored with dark text.
cads: Namworld: after a simple search I don'
t find any companies that offer AMD GPU clusters, which stinks.
Namworld: They don'
t rent a Nvidia at 1/10th of the cost it would be to run the AMD equivalent at home =P
Namworld: In any case, I can'
t mine/use my GPU at 100%, I just put a damn huge 6990 in my underpowered PC (with 300W power suply). PC would self shutdown.
Namworld: and I can'
t get vanityminer to run on my 6990 for some reason to try it.
Namworld: Costs aren'
t too prohibitive to do that =P
Namworld: whitespace/punctuation wouldn'
t really... fit.
cads: it's a damn shame that public keys can'
t include punctuation or whitespace!
furuknap: If you don'
t pray, now would be a very good time to start.
parseval: BitInstant won'
t trade with my state anymore.. funny, because I thought they were based in NY
furuknap: Oh, sorry, this wasn'
t the insane asylum. Wrong channel.
Namworld: True, divs and a business's state of affairs matter not for most traders it seems. It's just a random walk. I assume they don'
t know about poker/casinos and just trade stocks randomly for the thrill.
furuknap: I wouldn'
t, but then again, I've been bearish on AM since 1.9
furuknap: Depends on premium. For a .05 premium, it probably didn'
t look like too bad a deal.
Namworld: Don'
t know what I was thinking.
gribble: Error: Couldn'
t get RSS feed.
jcpham: market.rallying.can'
t.sleep
jcpham: market.crashing.can'
t.sleep
thestringpuller: oh I know it will evolve over time. but evolution can'
t happen if the planet is devoid of life.
thestringpuller: Dude, I don'
t like being a dream smasher, but this is something that I've spent a decade researching under people much smarter than I.
thestringpuller: This didn'
t just happen. It took time to develop those armadas.
thestringpuller: just because you can dunk doesn'
t mean you shouldn'
t make your free throws
thestringpuller: the paradigm shift isn'
t the issue it's the fundamentals beneath it
thestringpuller: these aren'
t my concerns, these are things that have been discussed thoroughly for years, and are still discussed
mircea_popescu: dude, the game isn'
t based on players constructing anything.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i don'
t think the "full play experience" will be evident period. as i imagine it'll keep on changing
thestringpuller: that's irrelevant, the full play experience won'
t be evident for at least a year
thestringpuller: Player based emergent depends on simple interactions between players. With a limited player space, you have limited emergence meaning the full experience isn'
t evident for some X duration.
thestringpuller: I don'
t remember much steam punk at all in Chrono Trigger...