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asciilifeform: but that hasn't exactly stopped the American corn fuel idiots
asciilifeform: i think the only reason this didn't go into mass production was that its energy-negative
mircea_popescu: we don't have a very good model to map hash to transistor count yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't doubt that an asic heater would shit money if you installed one today. question is about the endgame.
mircea_popescu: "sorry you can't have asic heating because it interferences with the weasels"
mircea_popescu: i don't see what diff it makes, outside of perhaps being the avenue through which govts will try and limit the practice if they somehow decide they want that
mircea_popescu: well less so, but it ain't a resistor in any sense either so.
mircea_popescu: this is visible to the nakled eye, but it doesn't come to significant emission in terms of energy
benkay: i don't think we've drawn sufficiently rigorous boundaries around the various systems to talk like that, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: sort of how we don't have prison inmates turning generators. thermo says it's a loss, so it's a loss.
asciilifeform: still seems to be like cranking out ASIC water heaters will be a net thermodynamic loss at some point not too far off. and a thermodynamic loss can't be decoupled from financial loss forever
benkay: market inefficiencies. i don't have bandwidth to do everything myself.
asciilifeform: question then is: ebay is chock-full of FPGA miner rigs being sold off for pennies on the dollar. why isn't anyone buying them up for use as space heaters?
benkay: u has space heater; either it also makes money or it doesn't. hard choice, neh?
dub: sadly looking at the labcorn thread I can't see her having made any impact
mircea_popescu: step 1 : no proofs. people clearly delineate whart proof is needed. step 2 : list of irrelevant crud masquerading as response to step 1. people clearly delineate why this doesn't qualify
Duffer1: i can't decide what they sound like more: desperate scammers, or desperate incompetents
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3155468#msg3155468 wow, I didn't see those earlier
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does a distributed network need a spokesperson for ? it doesn't. it's the government that needs someone to talk to.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu why can't we create an underground bitcoin foundation
Namworld: I can't bargain apparently.
benkay: even if the device doesn't exist, and nominally simulating codebases are hard to test
mircea_popescu: (except he didn't build anything as the t machine is an abstraction, but anyway)
benkay: i'm beginning to suspect that all crypto is broken and that this is a distraction a la dropping the dead diver in the water with important papers w/r/t spies to cover up the Enigma cracking circa wwii
benkay: listen, if i'm privileged, i don't have to deal with your idiot notions of power.
Namworld: Well I don't know why but I'm da coolest now. Does that come with any sort of responsibilities or something?
mircea_popescu: you didn't know ?
pankkake: I don't see any other way to make the bet
pankkake: there aren't many people able to fake 1 TH/s…
asciilifeform: i suppose now you'll tell us they don't breed true, either.
asciilifeform: wouldn't bet on it
mircea_popescu: which, obviously, isn't all that far off.
mircea_popescu: 2. you don't get to imagine diseases and all the rest of contrivances and then get me to care. again, match the other dood or get lost.
mircea_popescu: 1. you don't get to fuck up yhour environment and eat arsenic in chicken eggs your entire life and then expect me to care. match the indian or get lost ;
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure. that grant money won't embezzle itself.
mircea_popescu: weren't people talking about biocomputers before the current quantum craze ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps we should all switch to hiring bacteria as developers: they don't fall ill, virtually immortal... pinnacle of evolution!
Duffer1: ya that's pretty much correct, republican health plan: "don't get sick"
Duffer1: livin here ain't cheap >.<
benkay: except oh no, now he has bus-factor problems. and oh no, now he can't find any more people who already know how to do the work, and oh no, never bothered to implement a training plan
mircea_popescu: for that matter : most of my employees are female. and by most i don't mean relative most, i mean something like 74%
mircea_popescu: hasn';t changed, won't change, nobody gives a shit.
benkay: ain't takin?
mircea_popescu: yeah. but atm i ain't :)
mircea_popescu: doesn't that name sound trolly to you ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Inaba | "inaba" someone who doesn't have a clue about what s/he is talking about, coming from 'inable', 'inability' use their brains before doing something...
TheSeven: "early"... like a year after the anticipated delivery it turned out that they didn't even have a working chip design from what it looks like
TheSeven: just to make that clear: From the insight that I have into that project (which isn't really much), I have no reason to believe that it is a scam. It probably also isn't quite as screwed up as bASIC was. But I can't really judge upon whether it will succeed in the long run.
TheSeven: I'm also not involved much with labcoin's first revision chip. I gave some advice to the ASIC engineer, and that's it. I can't tell if the ASIC engineer did a good job otherwise.
Neil: Rejection reason: Needs a name, "goat" isn't much to go on.
Ukyo: i re-read it like 3 times trying to figure it out. "this is what happens" coupled with "and ukyo doesn't cut you the same deal" misreads :P
Ukyo: [01:19] <mircea_popescu> well that's what happens when you selftrade on store credit and ukyo doesn't cut you the same scammy deal. <-- wtf? what scammy deal have i done ? x.x
mircea_popescu: i don't get what's suspicious ?
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/532/btc-guild-to-have-at-least-50-hashrate/ the source isn't good, they often make mistakes
mircea_popescu: well that's what happens when you selftrade on store credit and ukyo doesn't cut you the same scammy deal.
ThickAsThieves: Does this mean I don't get a job?
mircea_popescu: "It wasn't that bad."
Kleeck: I'm so full of Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA that I can't think straight.
Kleeck: I can't wait to wake up tomorrow and see how this shakes out.
Kleeck: When the prospectus says you don't have a vote, and you're investing in a portion of the profits, STFU.
coconut: as if i wouldn't have put a little more effort in than that
dexX7: maybe scam isn't the right word
dexX7: didn't you noticed that the lab thread was spammed in 30 seconds intervals by different users with the same content over and over and over again?
mircea_popescu: Kleeck so you got burned. there's a reason investors don't touch hyips and the rest of the crud.
Kleeck: I don't think I was hypontized. I saw it for what it was. I think...
mircea_popescu: see, this is why it sucks being nobody: it doesn't matter what you'd like.
Kleeck: What about that doesn't make sense?
Kleeck: I don't think that'll happen. Maybe, but I doubt it.
Kleeck: They weren't.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you should put that much stock into that.
mircea_popescu: can't be that much.
Namworld: 1/333,333,333.333..th of a gram of gold. I'm pretty sure you can't indeed.
mircea_popescu: !t btctc labcoin
coconut: just because you don't, doesn't make it not true
dexX7: "known nick". i didn't know this and neither does the btctalk search engine.
Duffer1: i don't think that even meets the circumstantial level
Duffer1: i don't think it's over yet
Duffer1: didn't see that coming
Edward__: I would try localbitcoins. Don't know anyone in DC. Think the deep bitcoin pockets are in Japan and on West coast US.
Edward__: can't be dollars per bitcoin, wrong by factor of 2.
Edward__: Can't be gold oz, wrong by factor of 3. could be gold 10 grams?
Duffer1: wonder his 'shark squad' isn't just the new mt gox Midas engine :P
Duffer1: he's right about the manipulation, but he claims insider trading (though he hasn't show it's more than one actor)
jcpham: i don't even do that anymore
jcpham: mircea_popescu you aren't involved in any human trafficking are you?
coconut: I'm so lazy I won't create, but I would bet
benkay: coconut: there's probably a lot about finance you don't understand.
KRS-1: t'sup mjr
benkay: i can't math!
mircea_popescu: there's boxes here. Don't tell me you don't have boxes, I can SMELL them....
mircea_popescu: Jerry: When you're moving your whole world becomes boxes. That's all you think about is boxes. Boxes, where are those boxes? You just wander down the street going in and out of stores.... are there boxes here? Have you seen any boxes? You can't even talk to people because you can't concentrate... shut up, I'm looking for boxes! Just after a while you become really into it... you can smell them. You walk into a store...
mircea_popescu: and the people that don't read me... well...
benkay: i also don't read btctalk so my perceptions are indubitably biased
benkay: i didn't notice much screeching about your russia post
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect all the virgin geeks playing 7th grader power gameso n wikipedia to make him their god ?
mircea_popescu: i just don't like driving, and most other people driving.
Rulother__: Doesn't sound like you're a car person
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be a car.
mircea_popescu: i don't need a nuke.
pankkake: oh I walk, I don't even have a car