cads: then the kid actually kowtows and apologizes for being treated this way and even _thanks mircea for replying at all_

cads: all those mathematicians and they're still a laughingstock to mircea_popescu

cads: this would be the "strategic level" that mircea_popescu alluded to

cads: mircea_popescu: touche

cads: anyways mircea_popescu I'm glad my argument for heavily doctored NSA papers is not strong. I saw similar arguments claiming the pentagon papers were exactly what the higher ups wanted released, nothing more, nothing less, and those arguments seem cranky

cads: mircea_popescu: if he's an agent why talk about these capabilities? To brag. And more importantly to mislead and misinform.

cads: mircea_popescu: also I know you don't like schneier, but for a while he had his "NSA Exploit of the day" that was a near daily analysis of a new exploit from his researches of the leaked documents - here he apparently concludes that with basically saying, I've shown you all these exploits. Now we need to come up with ways to defend against them because not only the NSA will use them, but also criminals and other countries

cads: maybe the agency doesn't know itself well enough to imagine it has _any_ fears

cads: and now, even with the revelations, normal people are even _less_ likely to want to imagine their capabilities and how to fight them

cads: mircea_popescu: what are the odds you put on Snowden himself being a US agent?

cads: mircea_popescu: but what prominent security expert is _not_ under reasonable suspicion of being a government agent?

cads: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/air_gaps.html

cads: mircea_popescu: I know there's a military handbook that describes design of airgapped systems (the red/black system design philosophy)

cads: mircea_popescu: welcome to my life!

cads: mircea_popescu: I'm thinking it'll be fun

cads: mircea_popescu: I have all the marketing acumen of an aspergers kid.

cads: also the outer envelope of the machine _needs_ to be completely inert and safe

cads: so right now my clients feel too cheap to pay $60 design fee, _and_ they find out how much I ostensibly work.

cads: Mats_cd03: I wouldn't bill more than two hours for converting a 2d drawing into a part, say with one round of revision for the client.

cads: Mats_cd03: the design service we offer is great - I have 10 years cad experience and so does my partner. And it's a good price - 35 an hour for these low level cusomers (60 for corporate) - and where our corporate client is happy with our prices, the low level clients hate to even think of paying 35 an hour....

cads: Mats_cd03: we're a 2 person product prototyping team with a 3d printer and cad capability