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diana_coman: mats: isn'
t your main goal now to make enough to escape? logically then you should go for whatever gets you the most money faster, no?
diana_coman: mats: isn'
t that something you can do from anywhere though? ie why not get out first (esp if otherwise strong pull so presumably the later you leave it the harder it gets)?
diana_coman: mats: wouldn'
t you want to become active? what help do you need there?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Right. I expect the statement will be complete and the dispute period won'
t need anymore time than an auction does. The couple silent absentee customers will get their remaining customer equity pushed into their deedbot wallets. Loading the Feb/March 2018 - September 2019 stretch into the head again to make sure I'm not missing anything has been... a something.
mp_en_viaje: i'm further thinking this should proceed without reserve, since it's not possible they could sell for the 1.8 paperwork indicates, i can'
t think of some good way to obtain another value, and besides we want this to not take forever.
diana_coman: hm, might be one of those that doesn'
t quite mean same across the mountains.
mircea_popescu: hey hanbot how's this sound : "You, with bread and knife at hand, yet die starv'
t, uncomprehend'
t."
diana_coman: (and I couldn'
t find it searching trilema.com and the logs, did I miss it?)
BingoBoingo: I'm not entirely unsure I don'
t have or in the past hed a touch of engineer bogging down my head, but not indentifying as an engineer myself... I am unsure what has to break for an engineer to get the resignation, that can build to a faith, that recovery can proceed from.
mircea_popescu: the problem with the deanged is that they lie, "they don'
t mean to", whatever, bla bla.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll give it a thought, but I have low expectations. Also, the other side of the Late 1990's early 2000's Windows verus *nix narrative clicked in my head. The fight wasn'
t about the merits of any software at all. It was a fuck you to engineers in IT from Management.
mircea_popescu: just because we have a word to distinguish pedophiles from camp guides while to date there wasn'
t a word to distinguish "being an engineer"s from people working in engineering dun mean it's not exactly the same fucking thing.
diana_coman: I don'
t think it's in the engineering though; more maybe the other way around ie engineering as a result, not as a cause.
mircea_popescu: maybe the way out is rather in the vein of handling addiction, make an Engineers Anonymous, build up a list of tenants, "i understand i have a problem, that i can'
t fix but i can try to manage, and by the higher power as i understand it ima try" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: i also don'
t subscribe to
anon theories re frontal lobe damage & general degenerescence. yes hoarders show very similarily impaired cognition, but they're ~old~, and old only. "engineers" occur like schizophrenia, in the 30s.
mircea_popescu: i understand the more fashionable neoprotestant theory on the topic requires "i can do anything" as a hard prerequisite, and therefore "personal development" or "growth" is a boundless field of possibility. i'm... well, moderately optimistic on this topic, in the sense that i don'
t for a second credit such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: a kid who doesn'
t speak by four might speak by five, and if not by five then by six. but a kid that's not spoken by twenty is not likely to speak by thirty -- the early years matter a lot more than the latter years in the natural resolution of retardation.
mircea_popescu: spyked, guids in rss are the postid, this isn'
t exactly arbitrary, it's a numeric gensym for the article -- guaranteed to monotonically increase over time.
spyked:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949269 <-- hm, I'd keep that distinct from the bot spec (which'd spec bot inputs/outputs and behaviour), but it does bring to light the question of whether feedbot should accept non-mp-wp-style feeds. on one hand I might want to subscribe to heathen feeds on the internets. on the other, the rift is growing anyway (e.g. feedbot doesn'
t do
https), so it's pro
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 05:17:19 diana_coman: spyked: re bot, I said flaw because I don'
t think it should spit all entries it hasn'
t seen before, no; to my mind it should spit all entries *newer* than the *last one* it saw before, simply
mircea_popescu: how to do this, however, is admittedly a very hard problem, and i don'
t expect a solution has to be found/deployed rightnao.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 04:24:16 spyked: fwiw I don'
t believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn'
t have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017
spyked: okay, I'll post a spec sometime in the next coupla weeks. guess I didn'
t post one back in 2018/early 2019 since closest denominator I had was deedbot rss and just used that.
diana_coman: I'm also rather weary of manual disables and the like because 1. this never scales, it can'
t 2. now I need to keep a list of things for which to poke spyked to disable my feed if I as much as touch them on my own blog?
diana_coman: spyked: re bot, I said flaw because I don'
t think it should spit all entries it hasn'
t seen before, no; to my mind it should spit all entries *newer* than the *last one* it saw before, simply
diana_coman: spyked: oh, I hadn'
t realised you ran into similar too, didn'
t quite connect and if you didn'
t say anything earlier...; so in the end my
investigation into this yesterday covered more than I thought, huh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 16:20:22 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, it would seem this has a toggle ie from settings; atm I set it to at most 1000 so it should not bother you there but it doesn'
t quite solve it.
spyked: fwiw I don'
t believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn'
t have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017
mircea_popescu: incidentally : i'm pretty suspicious of something after-i-released it, because ~my~ mp-wp doesn'
t do the weird thing re chars/encodings spyked & all been comp;laining about.
diana_coman: so it would seem that jfw has actually found a bug with those html chars, except it wasn'
t in the original mp-wp but in billymg's trimming patches so that should get fixed now.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you mean some very old one triggered feedbot and then it didn'
t check, just kept going to the end?
diana_coman: can'
t be, it spewed here relatively recent ones.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, it would seem this has a toggle ie from settings; atm I set it to at most 1000 so it should not bother you there but it doesn'
t quite solve it.
diana_coman: ahaha; dunno, it was the original archive.php of that theme there and it actually doesn'
t look anything like your archive.php from the paste; but at least yes, it was clear enough.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 15:43:21 mp_en_viaje: also, either your archives are broken (
http://ossasepia.com/2010/10/ << missing 2nd page link on that archive, which in fact has two pages of which one can'
t be reached, hence why it ends on 11th ?) or else
some articles are missing ?
mp_en_viaje: (literally, "how to go about finding out what you don'
t yet know you don'
t know".)
BingoBoingo: It really is. Except for the religious string trimming that leave the grass uneven with brown tips, the local parks aren'
t far removed from fallow. Though some larger expanses get the tractor towed mower.
mp_en_viaje: it won'
t last though, their arms will fall off from the vibe, and who's gonna replace ?
mp_en_viaje: there'll never be a better solution ; because there can'
t be. because there's no solution to this problem, i can write insane nonsense.
diana_coman: there's always this code-text tension that annoys me because I still read it as broken-sign: code should be text but then each time I try to get it along text, it doesn'
t play well, ugh.
mp_en_viaje: right. doesn'
t work for the "house on the ground" style 3sq ft spaces. but otherwise -- unbeated, ~unbeatable~.
mp_en_viaje: specifically because it ~can'
t~ do all sorts of "desirable" things that aren'
t.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don'
t know; why do you trust php?
diana_coman: but honestly, this automated system that is same for *everyone* is something I just can'
t see; ie each can automate their own system, sure; but beyond that it gets iffy.
mp_en_viaje: most of php is actually exactly like this -- "doctor, it hurts when i do X" "don'
t".
mp_en_viaje: i didn'
t look into it ; but going by the novel symbol <fn>, i expect he did a stupid thing, equivalent to walking on a rake, by declaring the footnote separators to be tag-like, <fn> and </fn>
diana_coman: but I hadn'
t yet had the time to actually look at it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-31 21:35:20 lobbes: and in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the thing pretty much complete at this time. Trackbacks-from-IRC still aren'
t sending 100% of the time, so I need to fix this first. After that I will be doing final code cleanup, testing, and then vpatch. Still truckin' along
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-31 18:11:44 BingoBoingo: Even pichis carrying everything they own everywhere don'
t come close to the routinely heft payloads the tiny mommies tote around.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-31 whaack: lobbes: i am working on a solution to this
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-31#1948993 . you don'
t want to put any string for the b query param that is going to match a string inside of an anchor tag. this problem occurs frequently because often the same text in a link you want to select is inside of the anchor tag: i.e. for the text 'mp writes at <a href="
http://trilema.com">trilema</a>' if you try to select tri
lobbes: and in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the thing pretty much complete at this time. Trackbacks-from-IRC still aren'
t sending 100% of the time, so I need to fix this first. After that I will be doing final code cleanup, testing, and then vpatch. Still truckin' along
lobbes: Since it is an edge case (and I have other pressing items) I haven'
t dug any deeper into it.
mp_en_viaje: i admit that he doesn'
t sound altogether sane, an' if you wish to take it as a poor reflection on my judgement that i permit insanity to stand in the light i'll have to bear it ; the alternative strikes me as outright perversity and i dun wanna.
mp_en_viaje: i had no intention to negrate him at the onset ; i still have no intention to, notwithstanding he's spewing all sort an' manner of insanity -- this not because it's laughably ineffectual an' self-defeating, but because i don'
t believe in damnation by quality.
BingoBoingo: Even pichis carrying everything they own everywhere don'
t come close to the routinely heft payloads the tiny mommies tote around.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to put at least one rng'd insanity to rest explicitly : i work women rather than men not because women are weaker than men, but because women are stronger than men. if this weren'
t the case i'd simply be gay, no question about it.
BingoBoingo: Aren'
t you a little young to be ending the voyages plural?
BingoBoingo: Well, they didn'
t want to talk to the secretary.
mp_en_viaje: they don'
t do the whole secretary thing down there huh
mp_en_viaje: i dunno why all this herpy-derp anyways, wasn'
t s.nsa interest in pizarro a btc or thereabouts ? what's all the hw wank ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand your desire to construct a defense, but look. I just took apart and reassembled a hand stack of machines to get two photos at your request. You introduced a potential competing claim to title on some of the FUCKGOATS, which I will investigate as I must. However the count and all the photos in the world don'
t mean shit if you sign off on a S.NSA closing inventory that includes items other folks hold the title
BingoBoingo: I can'
t expect myself to shift right away into great fiction writing. Blog's for stretching the braincase.
trinque: rather, these things aren'
t even thought; they're felt and then angrily and fearfully defended.
trinque: if I don'
t get it done, it'll have been me, and not daddy having been mean... whereas.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so I gather you are dissapointed there isn'
t one; fine.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, there is no such thing as aimed at a level; name people if you are aiming at anyone or otherwise don'
t just throw words about.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 14:23:32 mp_en_viaje: it's what it is ; you don'
t like it, you shouldn'
t have made it.
mp_en_viaje: otherwise, since ~literally~ 100% of the crap on the "free" and "open" anglo internet is ~LITERAL~ fucking restatement of the ~~~EXACT FUCKING SAME~~~ five line passage from
harvard's 1999 offering of doubleplusgood truth&realities (if you don'
t count a very carefully expurgated version on "marxists.org" -- lulzily, "dog" appears exactly once ; "vulture" not at
mp_en_viaje: it's what it is ; you don'
t like it, you shouldn'
t have made it.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, i get it, it's unpleasant to wake up in the morning and read today's log. it can'
t be helped ; moreover, you built it, systematically an' carefully, by your very own self, an' against the opinion, advice an' as close to knock upside your dumb head as anyone managed. what can you ask of people, that they fly over and literally beat you into sense ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:31:45 mp_en_viaje: i don'
t think it's intentional, in the sense that i don'
t think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:47 mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain'
t happening. and so following.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:22:55 mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don'
t even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
mp_en_viaje: making contradictory statements every other line is not called "answer" ; moreover don'
t strain yourself, there's unique gossipd nodes awaiting and things.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don'
t end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from
chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
mp_en_viaje: cuntoo iirc was trinque's work ; not so sure how it stands these days, there was some drama that didn'
t resolve any.
mp_en_viaje: i don'
t want to pay the thick end to get the thin end, ever.
mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain'
t happening. and so following.
mp_en_viaje: so no, there wasn'
t any line drawn in the sand on the basis of trying to quadrate the circle and throwing tangents at a dangerous idiot.
mp_en_viaje: i don'
t think it's intentional, in the sense that i don'
t think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
mp_en_viaje: and if you've got the time, and the money, "1-1.5 bitcoin (today, of course ; the fuckface doesn'
t happen to think he DID NOT say 1-1.5 bitcoin back when he took the quote from) he'll take you for another spin.
mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don'
t end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from
chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don'
t even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much