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assbot: You rated user nubbins` on 24-Apr-2015, with
a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: pogoplug tester for therealbitcoin.
danielpbarron: is this
a surprising position to come from the guy who believes in God (
a man)
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of -10 for danielpbarron with note: Devoted to
a man rather than to
a cause.
nubbins`: danielpbarron is this
a race to -10 now?
assbot: You rated user nubbins` on 30-Jun-2014, with
a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: for the purpose of turning the spam nozzle two clicks towards the off position, and in the interest of discovering whether
a lord can be silenced or not.
trinque: if one had invested significantly in the infrastructure for an exchange, it stands to reason that he'd not use this to hold his own funds, and instead would keep it on
a usb stick plugged into his fucking pogo
williamdunne: nubbins`: tbf while using the company wallet might be
a bad habit, I don't think its an issue in itself, although reading through the logs it seems everything has gone to shit
davout: my money is on
a paymium-controlled addy, your examination of my withdrawal on the blockchain would conclude to fraud?
nubbins`: i just gave you (
a) mp saying "thanks, here's your money, here's the tx", (b) the tx comes from mpex (c) the tx is not on mpex's books
solrodar: I'm not accusing him of anything here, just giving
a bit of context to the earlier discussion
danielpbarron: this is like when some celeb gets outed as
a womanizer and all the girlies out out of nowhere to retroactively claim he touched her
nubbins`: if
a single bitcoin address is being used for both "company money" and personal money, that's setting off alarm bells
solrodar: all indications were that the payment was in
a personal capacity, and it never appeared on the statements of mpex or nsa
ben_vouspes: williamdunne: and woefully incomplete. you'll need to read logs back to friday or thursday of last week to get
a notion of what's going on.
assbot: You rated user diana_coman on 21-Jul-2015, with
a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: fellow Eulorian; gatherer of groceries, and builder of bots.
nubbins`: i'm just gonna fuck off for
a while and see if anyone bothers to care about all this evidence
williamdunne: I got kicked, spent
a while picking myself up. Wasn't reading the logs very often, only Trilema and Qntra
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 02:24:48; assbot: You rated user gabrielradio on 14-Oct-2015, with
a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Apprentice Trilema translator..
danielpbarron: ie : in
a qntra about silk road cops running with drug funds or the like
danielpbarron: even if some came or went to lizzard hitler's address it wouldn't prove
a damn because this kind of analysis can only be held against ~fiat~ institutions
nubbins`: the 1Gpng output gets successively split up into
a bunch of different pieces, and
a chunk of it eventually ends up paying out the bettors
PeterL: I was going to ask earlier, but it seemed like
a silly question
nubbins`: PeterL offending mp is
a one way street
nubbins`: i guess hanbot plays so much diablo and loses so much bet money that doing the books once
a month is an unbearable burden
nubbins`: PeterL there were
a handful of double-month reports late last year too
mircea_popescu: PeterL here's the thing : in my scrollback you appear as engaged in
a lengthy monologue which twice now highlighted me. are you going to take
a break on your own or do i have to ignore you for
a while ?
mircea_popescu: bah, talk of
a good idea badly executed. why is this schmuck so humourless ?
fluffypony: no, it's
a review of the Bitcoin Sidechains whitepaper
PeterL: but there should still be
a statement for february, even if it just
a signed statement "no bets made or resolved in February"
PeterL: should take about 20 seconds
a month
nubbins`: PeterL ok so she runs
a F.MPIF PC that.... loses money on bitbet.
PeterL: usually it is there as
a small change in the total assets
PeterL: just
a sec, I'll find it eventually
nubbins`: also, your fief (F.MPIF) went into hibernation only 6 months after you made it to the lordship list. not
a great showing by any measure.
nubbins`: "being
a lord is not an empty honor, but the honor of recognition, by your peers, for
a useful purpose. If you aren't doing anything you broadly speaking can't be one, and if you are one it is upon you to show up in court and help settle matters (and in the process help the other lords understand you and predict your future moves)"
nubbins`: because he can just give alf
a pile of useless shares that he apparently can't even afford to cash out
PeterL: asciilifeform would it have made
a difference if you were paid $120k?
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: do you think it would have made
a difference to me, if i had been paid $12k ? <<< i'm not saying you should have taken the same amount of $$ for running s.nsa as i should have for
a dozen hours' work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's severances like these days, for non-monkey non-management sorta jobs ? is it true, ibm offer ~what everyone really gets, coupla k's an
a lolipop ?
nubbins`: so got $12k bezzlars worth of btc for the actual work and
a fat stock warrant for free
nubbins`: i said shares as remuneration is
a fish hook
nubbins`: understand that being "paid" by mp in shares is just
a fish hook
nubbins`: talking about bitcoin doesn't make you
a part of bitcoin, etc
nubbins`: and kako got quite upset and said thanks
a lot for ruining any chance of getting mp to reverse his decision
nubbins`: logic and maths are now
a matter of social consensus?
mircea_popescu: this system worked more or less for
a while, which is to say up to maybe the 1920s. back then people had some sort of relation to reality.
nubbins`: the rota was
a brutal flop too
mircea_popescu: at that point, i was trying to get
a court system off the ground, similarly with random people as judges.
nubbins`: taleb hanging out on irc with
a bunch of drunks and permanent disability folks
assbot: The greatly anticipated BitBet (S.BBET) February 2016 Statement on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1Ryzbug )
nubbins`: i have no idea why some of you cannot see this place as nothing more than
a "cool kids club"
nubbins`: or maybe she has
a job playing diablo somewhere?
nubbins`: asciilifeform always
a soft disagree, never digging
a heel in.
mircea_popescu: if the people who matter think anything of it, it may see the life of day. if not...
a well.
nubbins`: asciilifeform we get it, he has
a free pass from you
mircea_popescu: but by and large, the problem seems to be that either throgh simple immersion, or sheer intellectual laziness, or
a mix or whatever, lots and lots of people have SERIOIS
danielpbarron: PeterL, this is like the "I would gladly pay higher taxes" argument. So go, pay. Make
a gracious donation.
nubbins`: shinohai what's that,
a joke? spamming the chan with
a video about spam?
PeterL: as
a lucky bettor, I would be willing to refund the extra winnings, minus
a "processing fee"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu seems to feel that fraud accusations have no place in #b-
a mircea_popescu shudders to think what happens if
a woman tells nubbins off or something
nubbins`: PeterL bitbet has quite
a poor reputation, if you haven't noticed
danielpbarron: i thought this was
a principled stand. Now it's just that 17 was too much to pay?
nubbins`: he could, if he wished, but it would be
a lol.
PeterL: danielpbarron we would be asking him to talk to
a miner and have the txn included in
a block
nubbins`: i'm curious what would be the argument if mp had
a vagina
danielpbarron: i'm curious what would be the argument today if there had never been
a transaction B, and transactions A1-An were still nowhere to be found..
nubbins`: giving bettors
a free handout is when you just give money away
nubbins`: paying the light bill is when the company purchases
a service (light) for money
PeterL: he did have
a loan from MPIF in the past (to cover
a previous mistake), so bitbet having
a loan has precedence
PeterL: think of it this way: guy makes
a bad investment and loses money for his firm, does he have to personally repay it or does the company take the loss?
PeterL: for the record, I view it as
a stupid mistake on mp's part, not fraud, so I am fine with having sold my shares I will just let things be
nubbins`: ben "vous" instead of you; it's
a failing of english
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: well i do but that's
a special case.
nubbins`: ben_vulpes not trivially, you'd actually have to click
a mouse
a bunch of times or w/e
nubbins`: ben_vulpes that transaction B was popescu's personal funds, which he sent of his own free will, AKA
a generous donation to bettors.
danielpbarron: PeterL, i've never run
a business, i don't know if those things are needed or what
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: and what precisely the claim's root? that mircea_popescu paid twice? that the funds were his and the loan
a breach of contract?
danielpbarron: when that bbet february statement came out, i read it and breathed
a sigh of relief, not knowing how controversial it apparently was
nubbins`: everything else is
a discussion surrounding that, or idiots telling adults not to have the discussion
nubbins`: he doesn't wanna list
a scam fund any more than kako wants to own one