asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, it is specifically 'doesn't work because ~nearly there is a cock-shaped shadow~
asciilifeform: trinque: my understanding is that these ways typically involve clusters of machines, duplicate db, and very elaborate/failure-prone synchronizers
asciilifeform: and why the FUCK is 10,000 writes/sec 'too much'
asciilifeform: why the FUCK should a READ block because ~wholly unrelated datum is being written~
asciilifeform: i've developed a loathing, inexpressible in words, for postgres and all things like it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'this shape' being 'html as-seen-by-reader as the only storage format'
asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu will probably barf if the 2 genesisen get displayed on same screen. it isn't an eggog in vtronics, but is in his head.
asciilifeform: ~displaying a www page~ oughta be an O(1) op, really
asciilifeform: i've seriously considered reimplementing phuctor in this shape. as it is, it loses more from the slow writes idiotically queuing up, and the wedged reads that result, than it wins from fast structured queries.
asciilifeform 'can't even', takes break, off to play with 10kg joystick, and then with pet
asciilifeform: phf: USES nonprintables in the magic ?! even deeper retardation.
asciilifeform: one can debate whether the persians are right to cut hands off thieves. but the hands of folx who write programs like this, i cannot see any reason why they should stay attached.
asciilifeform: the '.' operator in 'diff -e' is the magic.
asciilifeform: in the case of the orphanages, they had 0 constructive purpose. they were like the 'death glands' on that one species of octopus. snip'em and you get octopus that lives for +2 yrs and no other effect.
asciilifeform: the important thing to observe , in each case, is whether it changed semantics in a way that can be ~understood~
asciilifeform: but it is also not clear to me whether this can be done and the result still referred to as 'trb'.
asciilifeform: one theoretical solution to every type of blackhole other than the (theoretical) 'nsa sprays shit directly into the pipe on the backbone' is to make trb actually multiprocess
asciilifeform: and it isn't clear what will happen in re miners, for instance, when it does.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the only long-term answer is full wotnetization of the nodes.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'a' and 'b' are historic artifacts from my torture room. but notice, gnudiff ignores the name.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has been running public nodez longer than i , and iirc has pretty good instrumentation, he might have something to add to this thread .
asciilifeform: i suppose for completeness one ought to include a '5' -- foolish folx who think that 4GB / non-ECC ddr4 / etc. is a trb node
asciilifeform: 4 is where 1,2,3 can be ruled out with some confidence. could be mircea_popescu's 'magic packet', or just about anything, i have ~0 useful data.
asciilifeform: type3 (this taxonomy is strictly from asciilifeform's notes, and is no canonical animal of any kind) is the 'thinking man's shitflood', where requested inventory is not a DOS by virtue of ~quantity~, but ~quality~ (flood of questionable but not immediately/cheaply rejectable material)
asciilifeform: type2 ( pete_dushenski's ) is the garden variety shitflood. which is sometimes solved by ip ban, but only in the case of 'shrapnel addressed to occupant', i.e. idiot prb nodes wildly spamming crapolade, and not in the 'bullet with your name on it' case, where somebody actually has a sybil constellation drowning your trb node in liquishit, with no SINGLE ip misbehaving in any way☟︎
asciilifeform: and for so long as block verification is single-processor, there will remain type1
asciilifeform: (the one unattributable to overload of any type)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ultimately for so long as peers are unauthenticated and speak unauthenticated plaintext , there will be type4 blackhole.
asciilifeform: and it is not in fact held up by the fs thing.
asciilifeform: (that lead to same state - wedged node)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: blackhole, in my current understanding, is at least 4 distinct things
asciilifeform: one thing that palpably helps is the aws banhammer.
asciilifeform: also i see some 'connect() failed after select(): Connection refused' which iirc is bleeding edge prb kicking trb out☟︎
asciilifeform: spray of crapolade from $somebody, designed to bog down your node and have it lose all peers
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this'd be the genuine article
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the thing phf refers to , is in use still, whenever i make (yes) xp box! < 400MB! (lighter weight than, e.g., africa-linux)
asciilifeform: and can you get a core dump out of the thing pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: from your telling, it seems that there was no 'after'. so let's have the 'before' and 'during'
