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asciilifeform: mod6: prolly Right Thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << In my opinion, Pizarro is done, and should be liquidated. Whatever the next isp-like-item that comes up should be a new thing of its own.
asciilifeform: mp actually suggested this last week, as a possible backup for ordinary post if the degree of retardation involved in the latter is beyond what can be digested
asciilifeform: ( not to mention custody of FG etc )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the orcs double-taxation thing appears to make transportation impractical, we may want to consider a pickup flight by asciilifeform . can remove 4u of boxen for ~2k (us) total . for certain machines even this may be +ev.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect you still have the ~import~ receipts from the boxen that ben botched. that oughta do ~sumthing~ ? try an' find out.
asciilifeform: ty mod6 ! seems to work.
mod6: Should do the trick, let me know if you see something wacky (there certainly might be).
mod6: Alright, I've got the ML archives back up. http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/ and http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite. It involves retaining a customs dispatcher. I'll see what they want to produce this type of paperwork.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find out what this involves. could 'make or break' the calculation.
BingoBoingo: Also anything going to with a declared value of 200 USD or above needs some export paperwork done. The past few months have seen rather large outbound cocaine busts bound for Europe, so the export inspection folk that haven't been arrested are likely a bit on edge.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i wanted the ballpark figure (ty) in log so that subscribers can start making decision 'i'ma ship' or 'i'ma make own new from 0'.
asciilifeform: for boxen owned by subscribers, is to be left 100% to subscriber. but will need to consult w/ mod6 re piz-owned irons in particular.
BingoBoingo: DHL offers a more predictable per kilogram pricing model versus the FedEx black box, but they supposed just under 450 figuring an extra kilogram of packing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my current thinking is, to usa, to move the beefier (24, 32 cpu) boxen -- +ev ; but to europistan , where i expect would cost 1.5x-2x, + oddball europistani taxes, may not be, if anyone contemplating the latter, oughta do separate estimate
BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.
asciilifeform: simply to put reasonably accurate picture in log
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you recall the estimate for 'crate from BingoBoingostan to usa' ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: +EV for some, maybe. The TBF box with its dell badge is probably going to get its greatest return on the local market where folks pay to posture. Haven't yet dig into seeing much in the way of what the supermicros might return with some small amount of patience.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo plox to comment re ^ when you get a chance.
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo appears to have prelim. data re the cost of transporting'em, it seems to be +ev.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the very least, imho the purely piz-owned irons oughta live in new racks asap rather than go through the cycle of sell-for-penny-on-dollar-to-orcs etc. but no such thing will be done w/out agreement of shareholders ( and mod6 is majority holder. )
asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: Aight, ima keep working on this website thing here. Will write in when the archives are at least visible.
mod6: Oh, that's very reasonable. Thanks for finding the place.
asciilifeform: mod6: expecting to charge (in coin) equiv. of 20-30 $ u.s. per 1u, presently.
asciilifeform: i'ma 1st get the rack tho, and its ~exact~ cost, and ~then~ come up with prices. ( will be cheaper than piz, cuz elementarily , in a quite high-risk location , not to mention the rack per se is 5x cheaper per u )
mod6: I'll wait a bit to see how things progress on that matter, and if all good, maybe will have bv just send the box directly there. Would save me a bunch of shipping fees.
mod6: Ah, well then!
mod6: asciilifeform: Yeah, not sure how that would work exactly. Since I don't have $$$ for racking such things, unless your dc is gonna take btc?
mod6: Yeah, not sure if we care about the ML any more as far as a communication tool for development or what not. So getting the archives back up is a decent start.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma be inspecting and possibly leasing a rack today. if this goes properly, mod6 can consider installing $box there .
mod6: Regarding the foundation's two boxen: One was in .uy, the other was supposed to go down there, but is still in the possession of ben_vulpes. I communicated with him last week regarding the box, he'll be sending it to me as soon as I get him the deets.
diana_coman: mod6: ah, I see; yes, just the archives accessible and it will be great.
asciilifeform: mod6: confirmed; errything nao loads but the ml
mod6: I spent a fair amount of time yesterday trying to get Mailman working, which was frustrating, but no luck yet. If nothing else, I think I'll just ensure that all of the archives are visible somehow.
mod6: diana_coman: Yeah, thanks. BB made me a backup before the drives were pulled. I've placed all of the tbf website files back onto the original vps that used to host the site. So far, seems everything is working ok (as far as I can tell), other than the Mailing List.
asciilifeform: ( what practical impact from this ? for instance, finally canhaz entrance router that actually logs events. instead of running from readonly squashfs as is usual. )
asciilifeform: meanwhile in minor noose, asciilifeform found that one vendor still makes usb stix (for routers etc) w/ single-layer nand flash. claims operation to +85C and 60,000 rewrites per block.
asciilifeform: ah. evidently it's broken tho.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's pretty strange that the url leads to anyffin at all, if it hasn't yet been moved
BingoBoingo suspects mailing list probably ought not to be on a blog box, even if it isn't intended to send outgoing dispatches.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can probably move it over if mod6 asks, in the case of the mailing list I will have to dig at what it needs to stand on. Because of what 'anyserver' is I am not at all inclined to put things there unless folks request it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 09:59:22 diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945518 << it was a piz box. ( BingoBoingo is it being moved to 'anyserver' ? )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thanks for the check&ack!
diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
mp_en_viaje: anyway, ima get back to writing this megapiece im working on
mp_en_viaje: back to nature!
diana_coman had a fox staring from the garden, only yest
diana_coman: I can't quite imagine they'd have *that much/many* of either tbh
mp_en_viaje: oh, and a flock of fucking deer in the cultivated field just like that, by the side of the road
mp_en_viaje: i guess it's either gold or corpses, what's anyone thing ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwle im here on the highway, major todo, three police cars opening the way for thsi coupla 7ton trucks with some tarps thrown over them, and s buncha escorts
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, hopefully later today.
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: Sent 8 hours and 40 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
diana_coman: ftp://logs.ossasepia.com/ - I've setup a ftp mirror for asciilifeform as he currently has only the slow loper-os; he already uploaded the dulap tarball; it has anonymous read-only access for anyone interested/having trouble with loper-os.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/a-guide-to-systematically-exploring-the-entrails-of-mp-wp-illustrated-using-some-weird-found-in-the-post-editor << The Tar Pit -- A guide to systematically exploring the entrails of MP-WP, illustrated using some weird found in the post editor
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
BingoBoingo moving on to dns daemon setup. This time once its set up it should probably get replicated to actual diverse boxes and locations.
asciilifeform: console via rs232 , to make the apu1's live.
asciilifeform meanwhile single-stick installatron for dulap-gentoo; will test tomorrow
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell nicoleci http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=rrJN
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell hanbot_abroad http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=lXMx
BingoBoingo: Well, the LAMP thing has three moving parts that gotta talk to each other. mp-wp seems happier on apache 2.2 than the 2.4 UY1 had. But, that means cleaning up all sorts of version to version nitpicky breakages.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno, i was able to stand up phuctor. ( and , not long ago, diana_coman -- logger . ) but then again these aint the 'hungriest' known proggies re deps.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The packages are worthless. Sure, they are old versions of software, but they are the wrong old versions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dulap-I was iirc a centos6 box. it is possible to live in it. but you dun get the fine-grained scalpel that gentoo folx are accustomed to.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: already purchased another 'octeon' to set up the entrance router + switch for wherever new asciilifeform cage built. and will start by emplacing apu1's & rk's , then anyone who has the courage to put box in heart of reich.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my CentOS 6 review: It's like Gentoo in that you end up building all of the moving parts. It differs from Gentoo in not having a portage full of recipes for doing so.
asciilifeform actually unearthed ~several~ poorly-advertised dc's in reasonable proximity to hovel, not only this 1. but none of the others 'eager beaver' , no word from'em just yet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well he moved to Texas
BingoBoingo has not looked at those offer in detail recently
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everynow and then offers from there hit the circular file. Apparently Oregon, Washington, etc have space around that price for full racks
asciilifeform not even had occasion to go there, just yet.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i do not presently know what costs there.
BingoBoingo: Maybe trying to compete with US-Pacific Coast prices?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm thinking, the $14 (12 if full-cab) per u , is even cheaper than maxim's. there's gotta be some reason...
BingoBoingo: 16 hops, most of which are frontloaded antel to antel
BingoBoingo: traceroute between the chair and 'anyserver' includes a 112 ms hop from brasil to ny
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Depends on the regional registry, but yeah. One of the early headaches down here is that LATAM is IP space poor.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These sorts of things happen
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol, asciilifeform apparently not awake at all, ~just now~ understood that was reading a july piece.
asciilifeform: ( that 500 rack comes w/ Gb/s , supposedly. )
asciilifeform: dunno wai so cheap, and difficult to overcome the 'gut' suspicion that 'there is catch.' but gotta be tried.
asciilifeform: full rack btw goes for ~500 there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it aint 'properly' small tho. seems to be owned by some conglomerate. 'coloco'.
BingoBoingo: Well, in the smaller op the benefit he gets from 1 more customer probably more tangibly motivating
asciilifeform: meanwhile this one here called in <5min after email.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty interesting, imho. the people with 5x the price, take their sweet fucking time, as if dun really like money at all
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: proprietor seemed vehehery eager to sell.