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trinque: can't recall what. w/e it was, I did it on the two-headed server in uy to use the larger disks
trinque: iirc gpt incurs efi bullshit to be bootable
asciilifeform: has to be mbr ?
a111: Logged on 2019-10-13 20:07 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc trinque had an experimental cuntoo variant that was built with '-ssh' ban flag. will see what he says when wakes up re this subj
asciilifeform: trinque: quick q for when you have 5m : do you know how to 'bless' usb stick into bootability ? for some reason stuck on this ( machine is known to boot stix, boots the heathen gentoo 'live' thing. but not mine, tho is set up exactly like the hdd from earlier test w/ diana_coman )
trinque goes to eat log
trinque: BingoBoingo: no thanks, I'm going to take the opportunity to simplify my server situation a bit and consolidate.
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 20 hours and 8 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
asciilifeform: wb trinque
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945643 << bought, btw, if wasn't clear from thrd, it's goin' in the switch.
asciilifeform goes to read mp re how germany sux.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell bvt http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=_klh
asciilifeform: ^ article will disappoint folx who wanted to see the coffee, board rooms, other 'imponade', these can show later if anyone gives a shit. so far just the goods.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945630 << to answer this good q : 'braindamaged' search used search engines ; less-braindamaged turned out to be to walk local biz directories in search of anyffin appearing to offer colo.
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: diana_coman: place seems to have a++ service , asciilifeform was sat in the board room in the throne and treated like royalty. fwiw.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm for. q then for mod6 .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so you know, maybe worth actually to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945646
asciilifeform had a very 'you get what pay for' upbringing so hesitant to 'get excite'. but it's by all indications a genuine rack, in genuine dc, and dirt cheap. we find out moar by actually pluggin' in...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: apparently we found ~1~ thing that's cheap in usa..
diana_coman: the eu-cheap usually means they have a dc in moldova/ro/bulgaria, lolz.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:41:31 mp_en_viaje: from bitter root experience of failure comes renewed effort to do shit right, i take it ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945645 << this !
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw, ~all the isps in the US that I even looked at were significantly cheaper than similar eu-based ones (which in turn cheaper than some more exotic locations)
asciilifeform: and all this, for a pittance.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i hesitate to say 'a+++ machinepark' until i've, lol, actually plugged sumthing in. but by all indications promising, in-biz since '94 and claims 0 outage complaints to date. sits on regional backbone.
asciilifeform: will write a photops0t right after tea, re: what i found inside.
diana_coman: and I still want to take a rk there, as soon as it's available really; atm my sad pile of isp idiots is only growing ,with not much useful to show for it.
asciilifeform: unmarked bldg, in the middle of nowhere. inside, tho, resembling hybrid of dc and lobby of 5star hotel, flunkies bring coffee etc.
BingoBoingo: ty for the good news
mod6: cool, ty alf
asciilifeform: also came back with some photos (unlike latech, these people not allergic, apparently, to photo), will post.
asciilifeform: took a while to go over the contract, cross out things i didn't like , etc. but all eaten. rack people took the dough, promised keys on friday (apparently needs day to clear cheque and day to run wire.)
BingoBoingo: bvt, ty I'll get yours lined up.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 20:54:58 BingoBoingo: bvt: Do you want me to stand up an instance of your blog from the UY1 backup?
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945443 << please proceed with the installation
mp_en_viaje: meh, apparently half an article made it in wtf is this
BingoBoingo has a couple requests for blogs to stand up on 'anyserver' to attend to.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty. Once more friendly boxes start getting stood up I'd like to start meaningfully speading the DNS around. Different c-blocks, different continents, etc.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, the above is now done, in the sense that http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl are being announced ; mind though that you're not supposed to have all these in the same c block ideally.
mp_en_viaje: there won't be a yes/no until there's a specific list of what pizarro actually proposes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:44:22 asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945586 << the question keeps shifting, seeing how originally discussion was re coupla servers, not 28 fgs. in any case, the answer was then just as what is now : nsa will take .9 btc as it's owed in either cash or some other thing of equal value, for pizarro's convenience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mp_en_viaje: from bitter root experience of failure comes renewed effort to do shit right, i take it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 13:04:29 asciilifeform: ( what practical impact from this ? for instance, finally canhaz entrance router that actually logs events. instead of running from readonly squashfs as is usual. )
diana_coman: lolz, the unpredictable script
mp_en_viaje: the joys of modern computing, do the exact same thing 10k times, get different results 0.02% of the time
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, fixed ; nfi how it got set up that way.
mp_en_viaje: nfi whatsoever what might've caused that.
diana_coman: hm, let me try from somewhere else; atm it says "Both comments and pings are currently closed." on http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: are comments closed on trilema?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 00:29:12 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945502 << i expect to be ble to put these in within ~hour.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 22:18:49 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945465 << i'd rather delegate wholesale than create a bits-and-pieces madness.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:34:02 asciilifeform: it did. which is why i'ma take the half hr to go there an' recon.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945437 << defo buy the guy lunch.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:22:21 asciilifeform: meanwhile, dig update : found a smaller isp literally 5km from my chair, 300/mo (us) for 22u half-cab, 100Mb/s unlim.; asked re ddos, d00d answr'd 'multiple balanced pipes, and we dun block, eat.' no contract commits. will be goin' there tomorrow to see with eyes before buying. ( fella pleasant enuff, offered to broker a /24 from arin , '5-6k', i said '1st lesse' . w/out arin, 2.50 $ / ea. ip from shop. )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945433 << sounds pretty sweet tbh,
mp_en_viaje: ahh, what a pleasure with these logs already!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 14:18:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
mp_en_viaje: also, dear rando "ddos" schmuck : it ain't working, it ain't gonna work, give up, you fail at this like everything else in your life, oookay ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 00:13:11 lobbes: my guess is that logs.minigame.biz is using qntra dns maybe? Also, don't forget to use ".biz" and not ".bz"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945425 << aha, this'll be it. was using the right tld, but ... yeah
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/ << Trilema -- How Germany got itself banned, and Western Europe altogether isn't all that far behind.
mp_en_viaje: hot damn, again with the bs ?
asciilifeform going to machinepark in <1h
mod6: Sounds like shipping just the drives back might be the best way.
mod6: BingoBoingo: Good to know, thx.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Be aware your box down here is heavier and longer than any other. Shipping the whole box in you case is likely to be the lowest return way to handle your.
mod6: asciilifeform: He said 'he wouldn't know who to nominate.' I'm sure we'll dig into what do re: foundation when the Piz stuff is settled.
asciilifeform: mod6: imho mp is right re tbf btw. it's a stone chained to leg of mod6 and dragging it isn't producing detectably useful output presently imho .
mod6: I haven't made a final decision yet though.
asciilifeform: mod6: didja ever get an output from ben re his replacement in tbf ? afaik any possible transmutation of tbf requires at least a nod from the fella, given as he seems to be alive, and not yet formally drummed out
mod6: Then could have the drives emplaced, racked, and off we go. Could simply sell the old box in .uy to orcs.
mod6: As far as the foundation is concerned... I was thinking, originally, that I would have the whole box (with drives) shipped back from .uy. Then could be re-racked somewhere. But now, with the possibility that there might be some new rack space available, maybe the foundation should just have the drives shipped back, to be used inside of the 2nd box, currently not in use.
mod6: Fair, we should be looking into that part for sure.
asciilifeform would at least like to settle the q of whether even makes sense for anyone to fetch boxes, and if so, which
asciilifeform: mod6: i bring up subj only to avoid possible recursive dependencies ( i.e. for some subscribers, whether to transport box or bake new , may depend on the costs -- and time involved ; and this in turn has effect on what's left to liquidate, etc )
mod6: Then we can tackle the other questions of what remains.
mod6: Yeah, let's see what we can find out there. But let's not put the cart before horse. Let's first get all the customers situated with irons and whatever remittance is required via liquidation.
asciilifeform: ( along w/ anyffin else that the owners decide to move. )
asciilifeform: nao ideally i am mistaken about this, and can simply be posted.
asciilifeform: mod6: i mention because it appears that BingoBoingo cannot simply put'em in 1-2 crates and mail, may trigger 'export' wank.
mod6: I'm not sure how it'll work out exactly, but somehow not selling the very finite resources of working/tested FGs to orcs would be in the best interest of the Republic.
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform opposes the sale of remaining FG stockpile to orcs at flea market. but mod6 is majority holder, and so will mention even this, for thread-completeness strictly.
mod6: asciilifeform: Ah, ok. Sounds like we can work it out with mp then, one way or anohter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 13:12:00 mp_en_viaje: otherwise, if you two(/three, whatevs) decide you absolutely not want to sell boxes locally (preferably after having considered the matter, rather than some inept guesswork in the blind), sna can take gear in lieu of cash, but not at arbitrary rates of nonsense.
asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
asciilifeform rereads thread...
mod6: Ah, ty. Yeah, and if Pizarro paid in the form of debt, then the debt will be paid in coins.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, there is also a possible variant where 4 boxen need pick up, but want to go to somewhere other than asciilifeform's. this is to be left to the owners, if indeed 4 boxen, and their owners want to move'em.
mod6: If the FG's (28 or so??) were purchased from nosuchlabs via the .9 BTC worth of investment agreement, then yeah, should be repaid in coin.
asciilifeform: per my reading of last wk's log, to mod6 is also left the fate of the piz FG's (mp asked to be repayed in coin, rather than iron, as i parsed it)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma leave it 1) up to indiv. subscribers, for subscriber-owned boxen 2) mod6 for piz boxen. if 1+2 add up to 4, then it is worth for asciilifeform to physically pick up. otherwise not.
mod6: Very true.
asciilifeform: mod6: on top of this, imho the '20 boxen w/ no hot spares'-in-one-cage thing oughta be avoided . it tempts fate.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. This is not Argentina, so there should not be any export taxes in the reading I've done so far. Anyways priced per rack unit, it may vale la pena for the custodial benefit if you can make it down.