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Diablo-D3: its not like Im going out
there with a
trow and some bricks
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd be what pg calls a
technical founder
mircea_popescu: i am an asshole.
there's a difference between asshole and
that.
Diablo-D3: although,
the best companies in
the world have been ran by asshole CEOs
mircea_popescu: well, part of
the nonvocal non collaborative etc is
that you get bristly when people say
things.
Diablo-D3: but
theres only been like 2 shareholders who bother being vocal
mircea_popescu: bitcointalk is dysfunctional because it creates
this false sense of community
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I want DMC
to be more collaborative
than it is
Diablo-D3: but
that just adds
to
the fact I hate how
that works
mircea_popescu: well another part of
the problem is
that
there's very little analysis work done
Diablo-D3: Ive been selling it by hand, but
thats just not an efficient use of my
time
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: but yeah,
the
thread just doesnt sell it
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Diablo-D3: its doing more harm
to glbse companies
than good
Diablo-D3: its always been bitcointalk
threads only
Diablo-D3: and
the reason I didnt have a website first is because
thats not how
things have been done in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it stands
to reason you should make a website before registering
the security, actually. why not ? a blog is five minutes' work.
Diablo-D3: I
think what I should do is just bust out a web 2.0'ey kind of website for DMC
Diablo-D3: so does making
the stock exchange itself
Diablo-D3: you have
to go
to
the company website
to learn anything
Diablo-D3: I dont go
to NYSE's website
to
trade stocks, I go
through a broker, and most brokers barely list any info about companies
Diablo-D3: I mean, in
the real world, we dont even have shit like
this
Diablo-D3: and I hope
thats
the number one
thing.
mircea_popescu: you have any ideea what's
the one
thing investors hate ?
mircea_popescu: yet another
thing
the prospective investor would have not found out from yoru contract.
Diablo-D3: I have people who are in
the industry who are advising me on various points
Diablo-D3: of course, but
this is why Im not doing it alone
mircea_popescu: this is exceedingly well proven in
teh history of business.
mircea_popescu: the most expensive part of a project run by someone with great ambition and no experience is always
the management.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
the most expensive part of
this wont be
the data cente
though
Diablo-D3: if I had a million dollars in
the bank
mircea_popescu: i said you never had
the opportunity
to waste other people's money finding
things out.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
ts not like Im ignorant
to how
these
things are done
mircea_popescu: i
tell you, it's bizzare
to want
to bootstrap a
taxicab company when you never ran a cab.
Diablo-D3: I live in Maine, we dont have jobs like
that up here
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: but yeah, I really want
to do combined solar and wind, but wind is going
to be really fucking expensive for
the budget
dub: Diablo-D3: I'm installing ~$1m worth of gear in
two racks in different DC's at
the moment
Diablo-D3: smickles: lol, small
turbines are shit
Diablo-D3: maine forces
the power companies
to buy back power at high prices
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: its not
that comical
mircea_popescu: so
this alibaba vendor can sell me 2k 2MW units per year
mircea_popescu: and obviously a wind
turbine powered datacenter would be something very comical.
Diablo-D3: I mean fuck, look at a 1mw wind
turbine
mircea_popescu: i'm just pointing out
that pricing may be a little more difficult
than it seems.
mircea_popescu: Other products by Output
Type: AC
Three Phase FOB Price: US $ 2,000 - 12,000 / Set
Diablo-D3: (although I imagine bloom energy has been greatly gaming
the PR aspect)
Diablo-D3: every customer who has
them has been very happy with
them
mircea_popescu: gas was
too difficult
to get all
the permits for iirc.
Diablo-D3: surprised
they went with diesel powered generators
though
Diablo-D3: Im seriously considering upping
that
to $250k
mircea_popescu: they had
to make
their own water supply and various other shits.
mircea_popescu: Private well
to supply make-up water (well is backed up by city water)
mircea_popescu: 36,000 gallon storage
tank
to hold make-up water for cooling
towers
Diablo-D3: I'd be surprised if it cost more
than 25 million
Diablo-D3: got a url for
the one you were
thinking of?
mircea_popescu: yes.
that somewhere however is not pretending
to be and do
things
they aren't and can't do.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
the community has
to start somewhere.
mircea_popescu: which is also why people don't partner with "anyone in
the community".
Diablo-D3: If Im not,
then no one in
the community is.
dub: wait
till we get
to
teh bit where his real business case is green energy
mircea_popescu: people would point out you're not qualified
to handle several billion.
mircea_popescu: on a
total budget of 100k a prototype could cost at most 2-3k
Diablo-D3: yes, and
then
the software industry stole
the
term
mircea_popescu: to wit,
that
thing which people with a lot of money do.
mircea_popescu: there's a very good reason why
there's no dcs made out for 50 racks Diablo-D3
dub: you are
talking
to a shut-in, who lives in a fantasy world of drawn japanese people and cronic masturabation
mircea_popescu: a mid size up
to par with current specs dc costs about 1bn atm.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: a full sized facility is a
thousand or
ten
thousand racks
mircea_popescu: the generators for a decent facility run in
the millions.