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DeaDTerra: I would rather support Bitcoin as a whole and not only the IRC channels
copumpkin: and his father, too
copumpkin: of all that is bitcoin on IRC
copumpkin: the alpha and the omega
copumpkin: he is the beginning and the end
usagi: Not sure who that is, i live in a bubble
copumpkin: usagi: nanotube, the ultimate bitcoiner?
DeaDTerra: I think I saw some kind of charity thing for convincing companies to accept Bitcoin
usagi: Actually yeah you should use it to support the development of the client
mircea_popescu: ya, give it to nano :[
usagi: I'm currently supporting development of bitcoind, you could donate to me :p
usagi: Maybe get in contact with some of the bitcoin client devs
usagi: there are two charity funds but who knows
DeaDTerra: hm I was thinking of streaming some gameing on Saturday, and I was thinking of maybe doing some charity event. Is there any good BTC charities you can donate to?
rg: someones about to make a lot of money on bitvps
mircea_popescu: omg mpex is still online how can this be!?
mircea_popescu: tons of people went hogwild over that shitty bitdaytrade site and there was no money there either.
Ignatius-otc: yeah...why would anyone put in the effort for 1.337 btc?
smickles: the parts of it i use most often only need the market depth data
smickles: yeah, i like all the new data, but i still haven't updated the relavent parts of my 'opteron' program
smickles: i was hoping it was that
mircea_popescu: copumpkin "repeatedly stab your tiny asian dick into my waiting anus" ?
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: at least I didn't get screwed too badly :)
smickles: i'm proud that I wrote it as a one-liner :D
mircea_popescu: omg why the hate!
mircea_popescu: are you using the new vwap ?
mircea_popescu: not so hard to do
smickles: i've writen a fun bit of code which converts Ts and Ns into the appropriate dates which even accounts for the fact that Ts after the last friday actually referr to next month's last friday
dub: thats a rough translation
dub: Speaking of that, Zhou please repeatedly stab your tiny asian dick into my waiting anus
mircea_popescu: its him tho isnt it.
BTC-Mining: the judgement on that thing is stupid...
mircea_popescu: for two months. We've gone from being short 40k to now being short 88k.
mircea_popescu: happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved
mircea_popescu: assumption Bitcoinica profits would quickly fill in the rest. What's
mircea_popescu: a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the
mircea_popescu: As you know, Bitcoinica went from cranking out 6-figure profit one month to
mircea_popescu: Speaking of that, Zhou I wanted your thoughts on the financial situation.
mircea_popescu: would you say this is tihan seale of bitcoinica in thst lawsuit ?
mircea_popescu: not rly tho
mircea_popescu: it does reject the 2nd. what i meant was ppl just save the pgp'd stat and just keep piping that. arguably more comfortable.
smickles: and if i double send an idendical stat to mpex, from what i remember, it rejects the second
smickles: yeah, they do
smickles: if people legitimately repeat their stat, wouldn't the pg encryption or signing produce difference between the 2 stats
mircea_popescu: but wait. if the bot sells for .11... what was the ideea charging .75 per ?!
mircea_popescu: well ty do come again
mircea_popescu: o and you hit the bot's bid huh
copumpkin: accidentally sold them for 0.0075
copumpkin: On Fri, 17 Aug 12 02:48:31 +0000 O.BTCUSD.P130T - 10 sold @0.07598909BTC, total yield 0.75837111BTC
copumpkin: Your transactions since 1 hour before your last STAT :
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't seem worth the risk tho, sooner or later some asshat is gonna use it to wreak havoc
mircea_popescu: anyway, smickles that's the drawbacK : people could legitimately repeat their stats
mircea_popescu: somebody had a session stolen on glbse recently tho, iirc.
mircea_popescu: at least in theory yea.
copumpkin: well, https is designed to stop it
mircea_popescu: course, it's a lot more difficult to do for traditional sites esp over https.
mircea_popescu: that's what i said, afaik pretty much the only place that isn't.
smickles: mircea_popescu: so mpex isn't vernerable to that 'fuck with em' attack :D
smickles: it told me to stfu and do it properly
smickles: iirc, i've send duplicate STATs to mpex
smickles: because i'm tired, and wrong, i guess
mircea_popescu: otherwise everyone including mtgox is actually vulnerable to this.
smickles: so does copumpkin get teh 1.337 btc?
mircea_popescu: of course, mpex is the only place where this actually isn't possible
copumpkin: it'd just be to fuck with everyone
mircea_popescu: but it might cause trouble for the holder.
smickles: if they are just trying to f with you, i don't see why it being encrypted would matter
mircea_popescu: man in the middle could just get the encrypted string and send it again
smickles: copumpkin: you mean someone sniffs the transmission of your 'buy|x|Y|z' and sends it again?
mircea_popescu: im just saying, they aren;'t allowed by the system.
copumpkin: and buy/sell shit they didn't want to buy/sell
mircea_popescu: do try
mircea_popescu: copumpkin have you tried one ?
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: your protocol seems vulnerable to replays
mircea_popescu: smickles : that thing is a mathematical approach to evaluating the likeliness of joint default in similar assets.
smickles: "Some believe the methodology of applying the Gaussian copula to credit derivatives to be one of the reasons behind the global financial crisis of 2008–2009."
Diablo-D3: it could be atari teenage riot - revolution action
mircea_popescu: otherwise, how many tranches do you plan ?
mircea_popescu: smickles : well if you feel like learning wizardry you can futz with that stuff.
mircea_popescu: im listening to rebel girl from bikini kill
mircea_popescu: do you know how to gauss-copula evaluate ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: what sort of cupor would you want us to pay
mircea_popescu: well as i said, i'd consider it for new mpcd if they seem worth doing in nov.
smickles: anyone interested in underwriting that?
smickles: i remember the function, but not the label
smickles: 1btc face X% interest paid in cupon installments, with the face being bought back at Y date
mircea_popescu: maybe, tho honestly, if you're offering bank bonds it'd make more sense to just give up all pretense and tranche them in a cdo
smickles: so then a proper bond would be the way to go
mircea_popescu: if they fire either one of you that operation is canned anyway.
mircea_popescu: smickles trust me, you're just opening the door to forum drama.
smickles: mircea_popescu: it think it may be benificial to have that nondiv equity share, consider if the shareholders wanted to fire an officer, right now, the only way they can do that is by dissolving the whole operation
mircea_popescu: the fact that it gives you info proves you have a key registered.
copumpkin: what will stat tell me? I ran it and it gave me a bunch of info
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: "NOTE : You must have a key already registered to deposit. DO NOT send money if your key is not registered. (You can check if it is with STAT)."
smickles: and then promised to do the accounting
smickles: heh, well, i wrote up that contract based on what splatster wanted to make
smickles: there's nothing about returning the principal and no expiration
mircea_popescu: dub hey, i made it long enough for bet to come live :D
smickles: it's not a bond tho
smickles: well, right now they have nonvoting divcarrying, no equity