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mircea_popescu: this reminds me of the virgin kids in highschool. they had sex "elsewhere".
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: he buys elsewhere too
usagi: is to sell YARR now,.
mircea_popescu: he will have to buy 100k btc on the open market ?
mircea_popescu: this does not seem all that orderly.
smickles: copumpkin: excelent timing on that one :)
mircea_popescu: I’ve spoken with my clients over the last week and come to an agreement that would allow me to close down my operation within a week. Currently my reserve (operating wallets) are drained from fulfilling the withdraw spree that happened after the rate drop announcement. All withdraws at this point will be delayed until Monday when the shutdown process begins..
usagi: I'll have to go read about it.
usagi: that's the plan
EskimoBob: what happens to nyncat.c?
mircea_popescu: smickles someone bought them out and i think is trying to get people to buy in quickly and not read the contract.
smickles: heh, it looks good tho
mircea_popescu: smickles i think that musta been a self trade.
Azelphur: I imagine things are going to be interesting over the next few days as people reinvest BS&T funds
smickles: all these other things are taking a dive, mpcd gets a 1k buy
EskimoBob: Interesting, what happens to zeros?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: by definition, a ponzi cannot be softlanded. there cannot be enough money to pay all depositors. so if all funds are paid out, it was not a ponzi
mircea_popescu: now that he's out of the picture things might come back to some semblance of sanity.
mircea_popescu: because pirate fucked things up
smickles: why isn't an apy of 100% appealing in bitcoin, everyone want more that 100%
mircea_popescu: where's bitcoin kruger to explain that the btc economy needs negative interest bonds
smickles: i'll need to crunch some numbers
smickles: we might be able to safely do 1% per week
smickles: heh, mp, it's all about the sort of interest you're talking about
mircea_popescu: well, mpbor was ~5% on the last month, so i'd guess something like that.
smickles: we'd come up wiht amount that we know we could cover, even if most of our income falls thru
mircea_popescu: or just go for a normal honest to god bond like in sanityland ?
mircea_popescu: smickles how do you convert your income to fixed return ?
mircea_popescu: smickles well, i was gonna say yest, are you tranching it ?
smickles: so mircea_popescu, in this new world, what kind of coupon would be interesting for a Ss²cbond?
mircea_popescu: dude i tell you, if that guy ran a ponzi for ~1 year and manages to soft land it
PsychoticBoy: lol that bet
mircea_popescu: nanotube he did it for the 5k!
mircea_popescu: nobody in that cdo is pirate-facing.
mircea_popescu: smickles truth of the matter : not so many businesses in bitcoin land
smickles: the parts of the cdo can't fulfill their obligations w/o pirate?
mircea_popescu: lmao i think that wiped the cdo ?
EskimoBob: start pacing buy orders to PPT* :)
Obsi: Someone should sell popcorn for BTC, they'd make a killing
EskimoBob: no, if he closes down and returns money, this is NOT a default
JWU_42: nefario: just a tad ;)
jcpham: failure to pay
jcpham: but i thought it was default
nefario: this is going to hurt trade volume
mircea_popescu: hmm, now i dont recall the text. diodn't he have to survive till sept jcpham ?
mircea_popescu: nope had to be till september.
EskimoBob: lets just hope that PPT guys do not fuck us all over
jcpham: 14 days to pay
Obsi: he edited it today
Obsi: it shows the original post date
smickles: to today?
smickles: "An organization which aims to spread human ride robots. "
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob yea, that may be a problem. especially for daytraders.
mircea_popescu: smickles its a robot maker i think ?
EskimoBob: I also like to have multiple orders out for same "money" available but this can cause huge swings in the orderbooks
nefario: mircea_popescu: not really, since there aren't trades 100% of the time
mircea_popescu: doesn't this slow trade execution down ?
nefario: other orders then get cancelled
nefario: as part of the processsing
nefario: mircea_popescu: actual processing of trades has to happen in a queue
mircea_popescu: hehehe. im just trying to stir trouble
smickles: it's not like i was married since puberty tho
mircea_popescu: smickles i thought you were married too
mircea_popescu: it just so happens that by accident at the EXACT SAME TIME two people sell, A and C
smickles: did i know, mp, lol, i once came across a girl who thought her stuff was my cum
mircea_popescu: nefario : suppose i have 10 btc. i put in three orders, to buy A, B and C each for 10 btc.
smickles: well, saying that it lowers the viscosity seems to describe it exactly
mircea_popescu: did you know that the hornier a girl is, the more viscuous her moisture ?
nefario: hmmm can't really think of the correct term
mircea_popescu: it has its advantages, as long as you can make sure that you're not hit with double spends
smickles: it spreads the liquidity which is already there, around
nefario: actual amount of BTC stays the same
smickles: maybe saying that it brings greater liquidity is not actually correct tho
nefario: it means people can take advantage of more sell offers
nefario: and the amount of trading that can be done with the same amount of BTC will increase
mircea_popescu: then the sum of orders isn't really the liquidity.
mircea_popescu: well if someone can put in as many orders as they want based on 5 btc
nefario: so I'll be able to add other things after
mircea_popescu: or the semblance thereof.
nefario: it's whats been taking up my time as well
smickles: mircea_popescu: no reserves in this context means that you have 5 btc in the account. you can place as many 5 btc orders as you want. When one of them is taken, then the others are canceled
smickles: nice, i'm looking forward to it
nefario: I'm thinking tuesday latest
nefario: as long as they are less than the total value of the BTC available
nefario: it will mean there will be no BTC reserve
usagi: good to hear
mircea_popescu: you'd think reserves are a good thing
mircea_popescu: what's this mean, rid of reserves ?
nefario: will be rid of bitcoin reserves by Tuesday
nefario: worked on test server didn't work on production
assbot: DMC [1@0.64BTC] (since: 29-08-2012) paid: 0 BTC. Last price: 0.045 BTC. Capital gain: -0.595 BTC. Total: -0.595 BTC. (-93%)
nefario: fucking FINALLY got something to work
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
area: I wasn't worried too much about a delay, just wanted to make sure I'd requested them :-)
gribble: Best bid: 15.20001, Best ask: 15.325, Bid-ask spread: 0.12499, Last trade: 15.20001, 24 hour volume: 89312, 24 hour low: 13.2, 24 hour high: 15.4
mircea_popescu: sgornick is it me or that bitbin.net site doesn't actually exist ?!
EskimoBob: and logged in person too
EskimoBob: and do not forget to "paint" the issuers bid/ask in the order book
nefario: small changes, improvements etc that people want can be added easily then
area: ciuciu: Did you get my PM on the forum? I have nothing in my outbox and am currently wondering if I managed to not sent it