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MoneyIsDebt: How many businesses out there make money outside of lending and mining?
mircea_popescu: evolution needs survivors to work.
mircea_popescu: the citizen-finance troop should get a smarting lesson, but i'd rather not see the thing completely extinguished
BTC-MINING: But he might have to review his rate on Kraken or reduce the max amount he can take charge off.
BTC-MINING: Well he does have a lot of funds in Pirate, he still has a lot of capital outside it tho.
mircea_popescu: when was this ?
nefario1: not sure what the deal in the background there was
nefario1: or took it over
nefario1: used to be before he bought PPT
mircea_popescu: BTC-MINING i thought he's one of the less exposed of the forum wanna-be bankers
Chaang-Noi: okay ill get that later
BTC-MINING: He was running the PPT (with his insurance money)
MoneyIsDebt: What's Patrick's connection to BS&T
mircea_popescu: <BTC-MINING> I guess with BS&T, they're waiting to see how Patrick will be after clearing the PPT << ?
BTC-MINING: I guess with BS&T, they're waiting to see how Patrick will be after clearing the PPT
MoneyIsDebt: but not in Thailand - I just blew my travel money
Chaang-Noi: plane is ready to go
MoneyIsDebt: I feel more of a man now, having tried this
MoneyIsDebt: I did this because I figured if price falls that low, pirate default must have happened, so I'd better sell as quickly as possible
mircea_popescu: i tend to, since then.
BTC-MINING: I always trade manually
mircea_popescu: it's true that it was manty years ago and i still remember it tho
mircea_popescu: i once blew 895k usd by trading the wrong asset.
MoneyIsDebt: expensive lesson in trading
MoneyIsDebt: If pirate does pay back, I'll have lost 755 BTC on that glitch :(
mircea_popescu: MoneyIsDebt this is why real men don't stoploss :d
MoneyIsDebt: nefario1: yup, I'm very happy about that new update
nefario1: thats partly due to GLBSE BTC reserve issue
MoneyIsDebt: and I was unable to liquidate my position
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i guess it would ahve been good if there was news on a pirate default
MoneyIsDebt: well, it was fail because the price recovered quickly
Chaang-Noi: im not betting the farm lol
Chaang-Noi: i will be doing okay, but not as much as id like... i was unable to get anything from pirate for a long time
nefario1: I suspect Chaang-Noi will be rolling in the BTC if pirate pays back
nefario1: some people are set to lose or make a lot depending on whether pirate pays out
MoneyIsDebt: so the bot sold all my -P bonds
MoneyIsDebt: your bid was the only liquidity left on the bid side
MoneyIsDebt: someone was dumping down to 0.34
MoneyIsDebt: My bot had a stop loss triggered
Chaang-Noi: i have bids in, sad they are not filled
BTC-MINING: Didn't you yourself bought most ot TYGRR.BOND-P back?
mircea_popescu: owners are prolly buying them in the deluded hope that pirate might still pay.
Chaang-Noi: why the new faith in bonds then?
Chaang-Noi: pirate bonds seem to be doing better, any word on pirate? iv been away
mircea_popescu: like this unruly wife that got a good beating.
mircea_popescu: lmao bitcoin is so tame now.
gribble: Best bid: 9.8, Best ask: 9.85, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 9.8, 24 hour volume: 56712, 24 hour low: 9.5714, 24 hour high: 10.09999
Diablo-D3: Obsi: but to answer your other question fully, 3rd single upgrade must happen before 1mhs gets merged into abmo
Obsi: I guess we can do that, I'll post the motion shortly
Diablo-D3: Obsi: seems to be about fair
Diablo-D3: its your company, you do the hard work
Diablo-D3: Obsi: and thees nothing wrong with you owning a lot of abmo
Diablo-D3: Obsi: as for valuing them, hrrrrm
Diablo-D3: Obsi: a motion to buy your asicminer shares is concurrent to a 3rd single upgrade
Obsi: Diablo-D3: Do you want that motion now, or after the 3rd single upgrade is paid for? I don't know that I would trade in my ASICMINER shares as I already hold quite a bit of OBSI.ABMO and I'm not even sure how to value them... 1:1?
Diablo-D3: Obsi: if you do a motion to sell asicminer into abmo (preferably for abmo shares), I'd vote yes on it
Obsi: I have a few thou shares of ASICMINER I might be willing to sell into ABMO at cost as well, once the last single upgrade is bought.
Obsi: Doing the math on expected network hashrate with people claiming they can produce ASICs at <$1 Ghash doesn't make expansion seem very profitable until the prices drop considerably
Obsi: I will probably buy back the 1MHS bonds at 0.1 when the ASICs arrive... right now ABMO has 3 singles with 1 left to upgrade... I will sell ASICs into ABMO at BFL prices in BTC or payout divs, whichever shareholders vote for
Diablo-D3: Obsi: it makes more sense to just collapse 1mhs into abmo
Diablo-D3: Obsi: and do this after ABMO is finished upgrading (ie, when 1mh bonds are like 0.000001 in value)
Diablo-D3: Obsi: a motion on 1mhs to close 1mhs and buy back all the bonds at whatever the buyback clause is, the cost of this being paid by ABMO
Diablo-D3: Obsi: or actually, dont even produce the bonds, just buy the units and upgrades right out, all the existing 1mhs bonds can be ran off a single SC single
Diablo-D3: Obsi: you post a motion to upgrade all of 1mhs's units in exchange for all the new 1mh bonds that will be produced
Diablo-D3: Obsi: because Im thinking, after we upgrade all of our units
mircea_popescu: the talk page there reminds me why wikipedia is such offensive crap.
Diablo-D3: Obsi: what does 1mhs have total in hardware/
EmanuelDeOrtego: It will tell you everything
EmanuelDeOrtego: Just take a look at the top of the article
Obsi: Diablo-D3: OBSI.ABMO will upgrade it's 3rd single in 2 weeks. >11Mhash a share on order at that point
BTC-MINING: prepaid card don't usually count toward credits now, does it?
rg: do you guys think the new bitcoin credit cards will count towards credit
rg: it took all god damn day
gribble: Best bid: 9.80002, Best ask: 9.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 9.80001, 24 hour volume: 66314, 24 hour low: 9.5714, 24 hour high: 10.09999
mircea_popescu: so anyone actually know who this factory dood is on the forum ?
rg: not only that
kakobrekla: it just has to be good enough, like with most things
rg: i dont know what to tlel you
EmanuelDeOrtego: but they don't expect everyone to be a nerdy neckbeard
rg: the last part of the url is:
rg: in the beginning it shows a web browser
rg: you gotta see this
rg: when shit hits the fan there i stand with my glock and my blunt in my hand what's the plan
kakobrekla: you listen to hippy hoppy?
bitfoo: you should make one of those "make money at home" websites
kakobrekla: rg is teh new pirate!
rg: im going to give it like a 3 btc allowance
rg: im really going to write a bot in shellscript tonight when i wake up
rg: not my fault im better at satoshidice than most
mircea_popescu: rg if the ipo fails ima come after you.
kakobrekla: so im gonna add this IC link
kakobrekla: well thb cryptostocks was added before we started implementing twitter feed
bitfoo: do I need to create an account before I can see that?
bitfoo: smickles: what exchange tab? :D
dub: how the fuck can half your countries political system believe in talking snakes and rib women
rg: i updated the billing so you can use the remote consolen ow
rg: ok turkey knife
smickles: there is also a futures tab
jcpham: prior to sending any funds or registering any accounts
smickles: bitfoo: go to the 'exchange' tab in the web trading app