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benkay: Duffer1: just like people who need to read "so you want to start a bitcoin business" can'
t get over their egos and get it.
benkay: Duffer1: people who need to read Variety Speak won'
t get it.
pankkake: I don'
t know who Apocalyptic is but people I trust seem to trust him
mircea_popescu: but it didn'
t apply to him, because that was for all the OTHER kids.
deanclkclk: so I need to signup to WOT. I haven'
t done so
Namworld: I know you didn'
t mircea, just a random fact I wanted to add to it.
deanclkclk: those were all my value proposition ..I couldn'
t just come and spill everything
pankkake: well Apocalyptic doesn'
t know how to configure a mail server so I'm still waiting for the activation mail
Namworld: You've just proposed x then y then z upon seeing the first things were already there so wouldn'
t work. If you couldn'
t figure it out, you're not fit to handle customer Bitcoins. Because when first thing will work, there won'
t be other things to try.
Namworld: I don'
t care about lower fees.
Namworld: Well that wouldn'
t get me at all.
Namworld: I don'
t know of any fiat transfer mechanism without fees.
deanclkclk: and the fees doesn'
t matter to you guys right?
Duffer1: i don'
t know of any one that is insured
Namworld: There's already BTC-e to not be tracked. They don'
t require any verification as far as I know.
deanclkclk: but, most traders don'
t want to be tracked
Namworld: Which I don'
t think is feasible to begin with.
Duffer1: I'm a clinger that lost it all and hangs around for I don'
t know why
pankkake: look, if you don'
t allow cancelling, you're going to end up with nonsense very quickly
Namworld: I don'
t know of one that doesn'
t.
Namworld: You don'
t spend that $5 because there is a ask lower than 100 per BTC at 95.
deanclkclk: so I don'
t know what planet u people are from
deanclkclk: people want to get what they ask for? that doesn'
t make any business sense
deanclkclk: why wouldn'
t anyone want to get more BTC if the purpose of the site is to find the least ask trade
benkay: deanclkclk: you're unfortunately trading on exchanges run by derpy web developers that don'
t match orders like professionals, and so you come to the conclusion that order matching is a) a hard problem and b) something you're qualified to handle.
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk don'
t take it personally. i have no particular interest in the matter.
Duffer1: you clearly don'
t understand enough of what's involved to be put yourself in a position of responsibility for other's money
mircea_popescu: you gotta actually do it for it to be done. coulding have done it ain'
t military grade.
mjr_: mircea_popescu: i thought the fee was 10 bitcoins for VIP, not that I am complaining, I just haven'
t looked in a while
francis_wolke: asciilifeform: I don'
t believe anything. I'm asking here because you all know more than I.
benkay: sophisticated engineering project it ain'
t mircea_popescu: francis_wolke but a new currency isn'
t a manhattan project.
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: You simply don'
t have to tell all that many people when you're creating a new currency - and even if you do, who is going to listen?
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: I don'
t know you well enough to say.
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: You wouldn'
t opt for another 400 years?
mircea_popescu: why do you think so ? i wouldn'
t personally be interested in such.
mircea_popescu: your average tattoo "artist" doesn'
t do so well with letters.
mircea_popescu: maybe we don'
t mean the same thing by manhattan projects. what's your definition ?
francis_wolke: Or say that I didn'
t actually know any of these people.
Duffer1: my experience is obviously subject (as was my initial statement) but i don'
t see anyone trying to reverse these trends
francis_wolke: MP: I have met some people in so-called 1%. I know what they're like, and what their parents are like. Many of them don'
t think - but some do. Some actually care that civilization will be around for their decedents to enjoy.
Duffer1: I'd say given the state of affairs worldwide the non-visible muppets aren'
t good at much either
francis_wolke: asciilifeform: A while back you mentioned that the rulers of today are only good at misleading the public. I agree that the *visible* rulers are good at this - but can'
t imagine someone like Ben Bernanke caring so little about his future that the stupid are allowed to rule.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's never any question of turning them loose because they just won'
t leave.
Duffer1: i can'
t speak about the historical finance part, but pretty much everything written about bitcoin itself is flat out wrong
jurov: and if they won'
t die for 100 years?
jurov: they don'
t need the protection. they just pwn the governemnt
francis_wolke: jurov: RLE is still a while off, and millitary power dosn'
t cease to exist b/c Bitcoin. I'm sure that neither Peter Theil, or MP have any particular love for their respective governments. But they're not stupid and recognize that if some elite is going to extend their lifespans, they may need protection.
jurov: for example i can'
t imagine our resident billionaire, mircea_popescu to rely upon government protection
francis_wolke: jurov: Government is the formalization of power. Anyone doing anything interesting with radical life extension will have spooks on their doorstep momentarily. There are a number of powerful / rich people who don'
t want to die.
jurov: spooks are going to show up on their doorstep... sry if i came late and don'
t understand but why?
francis_wolke: [Note: I appear to be unable to use this irc client. I held down backspace for 30 sec, couldn'
t navigate to any other text and revised my message. I post, and viola - my previous message is also posted! Apologies to anyone reading this diarrhea.]
pankkake: "the USG would kill it with fire" it can'
t pankkake: "too fragmented to act as a cohesive whole" it doesn'
t have to
benkay: but hey you're a lisper so i likely won'
t get downright mean
benkay: also your feelings don'
t really factor into whether or not i take you to the woodshed
benkay: also you're missing the part where the state isn'
t really its own agent but more accurately a tool of the ultra-capitalized who will be the main beneficiaries of RLE in any event.
francis_wolke: Interesting quote. Apologies for the extra \n - I don'
t know how they got there between copying from emacs and pasting into the irc client.
francis_wolke: c renewal, a recreation of the social universe -- in Babylonia, during the same ceremony in which the king reenacts his godMurduk's creation of the physical universe. The history of debt and sin was wiped out, and it was time to begin again. But it's also clear what they saw as the alternative: the world plunged into chaos, with farmers defecting
t Vexual: yar, i don'
t know what im doing
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I wouldn'
t be surprised if kakobrekla is waiting for the drop to fire up the Buttfuries
pankkake: long diff periods definitely don'
t work for altcoins
mircea_popescu: o hey that works out splendidly doesn'
t it. teh ideas of march.
moiety: sorry delayed response: Vexual: it's a national vote, i don'
t think they let you email it in
moiety: if charles was to go and be king, he would have to give up all his Duke of Edinburgh responsibilities etc. He has balls, what I'm meaning is he couldn'
t do what *he* wanted specifically
Vexual: he does, the people don'
t moiety: he doesn'
t have the balls apparently
moiety: Charles doesn'
t want to do it. -- according to Lord Mowbray
moiety: i wouldn'
t be so sure. i'm convinced they have her on a trolley
moiety: fair point, the queen doesn'
t breath oxygen
BingoBoingo: Finding things that don'
t work is easy. Things that work though are unknowable until after the fact.
moiety: bitcoin isn'
t a very easy world is it
BingoBoingo: Of course. I mean it wouldn'
t be worth it to copy the Doge profiteers and whore myself out in the name of Moon.
moiety: but then china hadn'
t banned it last year
BingoBoingo: moiety: Last february though there wasn'
t a prolongued dip like this.
moiety: it was last april it was low wasn'
t it? i remember
moiety: i just looked it up, i don;
t actually need a loan, i just need to know how to buy now
benkay: spring bubble hasn'
t kicked in terribly hard yet
Vexual: isn'
t there 10+ spoken languages right in cape town?
mircea_popescu: then couldn'
t get anyone prosecuted for it out of the entire gang, so she left once she was 18
moiety: true arseholes are a special breed of people aren'
t they
mircea_popescu: provided she doesn'
t start dating elen degeneratis or some shit