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BTCHero: bitfoo: i enjoyed it, don't listen
to him
BTC-Mining: There's a
ton of people with
the name starting with P...
BTCHero: bitfoo: im starting
to feel ill
bitfoo: and patrick's name starts with a p
too
BTC-Mining: So it matches
the week's returns for all shares, even if bought last minute
BTCHero: how do you account for
that
BTCHero: but, it wouldn't accrue
the full interest
then right?
BTCHero: BTC-Mining: you already have all
the funds available on glbse deposited with patrick i assume?
BTCHero: and i suspect many will still fall for it
too
BTCHero: I now have my coins with hashking patrickharnett and kluge....
the lure for hyip is still strong with me
dub: no, _I_ want
to get rich quickly
tyvm
mircea_popescu: i mean, why is alabama alabama and new york new york ?
they both have people in
them.
bitfoo: yeah, I really hope people didn't buy BTC just because
there were crazy HYIPs
mircea_popescu: you don't want
those guys. you want people with a head on
their shoulders.
mircea_popescu: but he was
talking about people attracted by ponzi-level interest.
bitfoo: why? don't you
think people will wisen up
to
this now?
BTC-Mining: Because if he paid his debt, how much people would have started getting into bitcoins because
there was an actual,
true 7% per week investment? Would have raised BTC price a lot
mircea_popescu: dude get off
the chan with s.mpoe we're
trying
to have drama hiar!
dub: but anyway, his actions don't scream ponzi
to me
BTC-Mining: I sold when he stopped operation, bought back low,
then people realized it's not a pay back, but a default... am I better off?
bitfoo: BTC should go up, because people will write off
their pirated bitcoins and will want
to buy more
dub: ic3d: both of
those are good for him potentially
dub: unless all
this posturing is just
to incite a BTC price crash
dub: it looks
to me like pirate fucked up
dub: well I'm quite glad I sold out of your ppt a long
time ago :)
Chaang-Noi: At
this
time I will just ignore his request as he can not prove I have
these so called "sub accounts".
Chaang-Noi: My personal obligations
to GLBSE have nothing
to do with Pirate.
Chaang-Noi: I can not see why at all I am obligated
to give pirate more information
to get back coins owed.
Chaang-Noi: Pirate refused
to give me his lawyers contact information. Since he is claiming he can not speak because his lawyers will not let him so he is clearly operating in bad faith. He did not even confirm his identity.
Chaang-Noi: Pirate did not explain why he needed more information or what would happen if I did not send it or why he had
that very odd deadline.
Chaang-Noi: Pirate when he gave me
the request he did so over IRC and not in a formal legally valid way.
mircea_popescu: dub no, it's just, if we have a deal we are working on
that's fine. if you get your lawyer involved, i will get mine.
Chaang-Noi: I do not have a
trust account.
The status was never changed and I never paid
the 500 fee.
Chaang-Noi: I see
that I have no obligation
to honour Pirates request for information on "sub accounts"
dub: mircea_popescu: so is lawyer is goign
to recommend having everyone involved call him
mircea_popescu: dub if he is
taking legal advice you want
the phone of his lawyer
dub: mircea_popescu: because
that is what pirate asked for, presumable on legal advise, and assuming he actually wants
to payout
mircea_popescu: no, actually,
that's
the one shred of credibility he has left.
dub: by screaming bullshit and refusing
to even do
that he is makign shit worse
EmanuelDeOrtego: ic3d: He's in deep shit and needs
to put
the shit on someone else
dub: why goat can't just say "9001 bitcoins are my personal shit and 9001 bitcoins are in glbse ppt
that I cannot provide individual details for" is beyond me
EmanuelDeOrtego: <_matthew_> And if he isn't doing some kind of shady insider bullshit, why wouldn't goat be able
to just give
that information?
EmanuelDeOrtego: <_matthew_> Why is goat
trying
to stall payouts
to people whom he owes money
to?
Chaang-Noi: mircea no one cares what you
think :/ or say...
mircea_popescu: i guess we see nao if
there's anyone willing
to
trust glbse for umm what is is
EmanuelDeOrtego: MPeX Users:
There are over 22K+ S.DICE shares for sale on
the GLBSE for .0032.
There is a bid for 90k+ S.DICE shares at .0033 on MPeX. DeaDTerra will convert GLBSE shares
to MPeX shares with no fee.
mircea_popescu: after you and
the gang killed half a million bitcoin in
the hands of
those fools enough
to
trust you.
mircea_popescu: fact of
the matter is, currently i speak for about 90% of all btc investors left standing.
mircea_popescu: if only
that were
true... your position would be a lot better.
Chaang-Noi: mircea no one cares what you
think :/ or say...
mircea_popescu: so you went
to vegas from
thailand at great persona expense and difficulty
Chaang-Noi: there was not much
talk about gpuman or btcst
Chaang-Noi: giga sure, pirate well at
this point i
think no
mircea_popescu: if
that only were
true, you'd be in so much better a position...
bitfoo: Chaang-Noi, so did
they
turn out not
to be your friends? :|
Chaang-Noi: mircea no one cares what you
think :/ or say...
blazing: so actually you left vegas with no more information about pirate
then when you arrived
mircea_popescu: on
the grounds of what liquidity i have seen on glbse,
the sorts of numbers you folks were flashing
there make no sense.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi here's
the problem as i see it :
there's no way for me
to verify
that you weren't buying your own shares of pirate
thing.
Chaang-Noi: i went cuz i wanted
to go
to vegas and felt, hell why not
then, go
to defcon and see pirate and giga and some of
the people who i had assumed were my freinds
Chaang-Noi: everything
that was posted online was
true
Chaang-Noi: we however had a dinner and
then later played some craps
mircea_popescu: i have no ideea what
the meeting has
to do with, i wasn't
there
blazing: do you
think
the meeting in vegas may have something
to do with
this?
mircea_popescu: there;s a pretty solid
theory
that
the guy sold his own debt at cut-down rates for a 2nd round of scamming. it'd make sense.
mircea_popescu: they could be in collusion, or
the opperators could be just victims.
blazing: you mean
the passthrough operator is selling
them or pirate?
mircea_popescu: work if he's sent
them
through one of
the pass-throughs.
mircea_popescu: It is fairly common in ponzi scams
to create false accounts
to give
the illusion of popularity. Other people will be more inclined
to invest if
they
think other people believe it works.
This costs him nothing or very little, because
the money goes back
to himself, and
they will never be claimed while
the scam runs. If
they are in
the form of extra shares on GLBSE it would be
trivial
to sell
them at a discount now, and somewhat more
blazing: i hope
this whole pirate
thing draws more attention
to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: into which he can donate
the proceeds of sold riser cables
EmanuelDeOrtego: "This bond is in no way insured.
The money gained from
the selling of
these bonds will go
to BTCST.
This bond is not guaranteed but will be honored at best effort."
mircea_popescu: It's only symbolic at
this point, anyway -- no one's going
to be
tricked into
trading with someone involved in such a high-profile controversy.
gribble: Best bid: 10.95295, Best ask: 10.9992, Bid-ask spread: 0.04625, Last
trade: 10.99921, 24 hour volume: 60933, 24 hour low: 10.5, 24 hour high: 11.20999
Chaang-Noi: there is more
than just one problem ic3d