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assbot: COGNITIVE [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-10) paid: 0.01848832 BTC. Last price: 0.44 BTC. Capital gain: -0.06 BTC. Total: -0.04151168 BTC. (-8.3%)
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assbot: COGNITIVE [1@0.5BTC] paid: 0.09217435 BTC. Last price: 0.44 BTC. Capital gain: -0.06 BTC. Total: 0.03217435 BTC. (6.4%)
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assbot: MOORE [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-10) paid: 0.0196402 BTC. Last price: 0.495 BTC. Capital gain: -0.005 BTC. Total: 0.0146402 BTC. (2.9%)
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assbot: MOORE [1@0.5BTC] paid: 0.0707159 BTC. Last price: 0.495 BTC. Capital gain: -0.005 BTC. Total: 0.0657159 BTC. (13.1%)
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Diablo-D3: going to bed
assbot: DMC [1@2500BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.095 BTC. Capital gain: -2499.905 BTC. Total: -2499.87864186 BTC. (-100%)
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dub: I installed the daemon at some stage, don't remember ever mining or antyhing but I have a few tx with 20-30ltc each inbound
Chaang-Noi: why would theymos get rid of images?
kakobrekla: theymos>> I'll probably disable images in posts eventually, too.
[\\\]: Diablo-D3: I believe that is buzzdave
Diablo-D3: hrm thats not what I expected
assbot: FPGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.3240279 BTC. Last price: 0.698 BTC. Capital gain: -0.302 BTC. Total: 0.0220279 BTC. (2.2%)
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assbot: DMC [1@2BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.095 BTC. Capital gain: -1.905 BTC. Total: -1.87864186 BTC. (-93.9%)
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Diablo-D3: whos is that?
[\\\]: Diablo-D3: like that do ya?
gribble: Channelrhodopsin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channelrhodopsin>; Channelrhodopsins - OpenOptogenetics.org: <http://www.openoptogenetics.org/index.php?title=Channelrhodopsins>; Channelrhodopsin-2, a directly light-gated cation-selective membrane: <http://www.pnas.org/content/100/24/13940.full>
Bugpowder: anyway, gotta go home. 8:30am to 10:50pm work day... 8 mice now injected with channelrhodopsin virus though. Big success. Peace out.
Bugpowder: need to get on the first shipment
mircea_popescu: with the specs for the asics (provided they actually show up) it doesn't seem much work to get them fired and running
Bugpowder: best chance of getting the rigs up and running the fastest.
Bugpowder: go for the market leader
Bugpowder: what securities to buy
Bugpowder: I like this gigavps guy, looks competent
mircea_popescu: well one important point is to not rush.
Bugpowder: and their work
Bugpowder: people that have some demonstration of competence
Bugpowder: and stealing all the money will kill their future earning potential with it
mircea_popescu: that sort of thing acts as a decent anchor.
Bugpowder: like they run some actual legitimate business with solid cash flow
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder this is a good point. for instance in my position : my holdings of s.mpoe are worth at current market rates ~4mn usd.
Bugpowder: I only trust people here who have a net positive financial incentive not to steal all your money
mircea_popescu: it's a flaw of the judgements people made about it.
mircea_popescu: dust-otc this is empirically true, but it's not a flaw of the wot system
dust-otc: but the level of trust required did not scale
mircea_popescu: he's had 5 digit trades.
[\\\]: <dust-otc> yes, people gave pirate millions off of ratings he got for $50 ppusd trades and free food/namecoins << he had 4 digit trades too
smickles: then examine the details of the connections that make the l2 trust score
mircea_popescu: then you look there and see WHO rated X guy, and what they said. it's a process.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that.
gribble: Trust relationship from user smickles to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 19 via 15 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=mircea_popescu
Bugpowder: like a pgp web of trust
smickles: use ;;get trust
dust-otc: yes, people gave pirate millions off of ratings he got for $50 ppusd trades and free food/namecoins
smickles: yeah, don't used the ;;getrating as judge
mircea_popescu: the wot is a WEB of trust not a sum of trust. it's not the sot. it's the wot.
mircea_popescu: people just go at the summed up ratings and act as if that means anything. it does not.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that it requires competence in using.
mircea_popescu: nah. the wot correctly used prevents all scams.
Bugpowder: do you think the wot actually facilitates scams?
mircea_popescu: it has nothing to do with the community, it's that group with bitcoinica, intersango et all
mircea_popescu: and as to the "infestation" : it is very speciffic to the global scam exchange
Bugpowder: Now I know, and knowing is half the battle
mircea_popescu: this later stat has all data from june 5th, 8pm till june 9th, 8pm
mircea_popescu: it's not "short term", it's just "what happened since last time"
mircea_popescu: a stat will report all movements from 1 hour before the prev stat
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well, you get your account history with stats. have you been throwing them out ?
dust-otc: I would rather not have the bitcoin community filled with scams
dust-otc: and I won't take less than what is owed
dust-otc: that wouldn't be fair to the other investors
[\\\]: wouldn't it make more sense for me to buy your shares? ;)
Bugpowder: Not just STAT short term data
Bugpowder: :mircea_popescu Any way to get a full account history?
Bugpowder: :mircea_popescu Do the MPCD's trade on the market, just no current bid/asks?
dust-otc: [\\\]: i might be willing to buy some ASICMINER at the current bid price so you can pay back GIPPT
Bugpowder: of scams in this 'community'
Bugpowder: It is remarkable to me
bonks: I'm tired of all these scams
mircea_popescu: out of money they mysteriously have from who knows where.
mircea_popescu: but the guy partenered with the tradehill ex owner/scammer to "further bitcoin" by building some conference hall or w/e in ny.
mircea_popescu: bonks turned scam.
bonks: Hey what ever happened to ZIP.A? I haven't signed into GLBSE in a while and that's all the assets I have left
mircea_popescu: it's very possible it wasn't him, for instance one way to sell bitcoins is to sell wallets.
Bugpowder: So if he was investing in zeek, why did that address still have 500k coins
mircea_popescu: i can see that argument too.
Bugpowder: Not if you want to just take the coins
mircea_popescu: if you are insolvent you go "i owe this much, i have this much"
dub: dust-otc: agreed, I'm only aware of two others, one is an entirely imaginary person!
dust-otc: as anyone who really had the coins to 100% insure deposits should have just invested those coins with pirate himself
Bugpowder: none of the pirate funds made sense
mircea_popescu: the worst thing he did, imo, was the bs announcement.
mircea_popescu: i can see the argument.
dust-otc: none of the "insured" pirate funds made sense
dub: and combined with a good level of trust in the 'community' == scammer
dub: he seems to have said that he had non-pirate funds to cover his pirate exposure and lied
mircea_popescu: he;'s also pretty stupid, but i don't think too dishonest.
mircea_popescu: dub he just tryied sarcasm in the worst possible way in the worst possible spot.
[\\\]: Anyone clinging to it is terribly misguided.
dub: oh, he has a terrible sense of humour then
[\\\]: I know that for certain.
mircea_popescu: srsly, he was trying to be funny. he's not 15.
mircea_popescu: that will go down in history as the stupidest thing someonesaid
mircea_popescu: is the 15 yo reference to hashking ?
dub: to provide insurance that is