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kakobrekla: repeating
the same line over and over again
kakobrekla: im not going
to ban anyone at
this point
nefario: no, just saying if I'm 15
then I've got a hair problem
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol i admire you not booting
the idiot at
this point. i would have.
midnightmagic: Yes, but do you operate something? You are listed as channel founder: what was
the purpose of
this channel meant
to be?
mircea_popescu: if idiots like mathew wright can dick around
there so can idiots like you.
mircea_popescu: the only reason i'm not routing you off
the forum is cause
the forum isn't worth
the effort.
nefario: what can I say, mircea has more
time
to piss away on IRC
than me, let him have
this domain
mircea_popescu: and he associates with some putrid stains on
the reputation of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: he's managing an appaling
trainwreck which is a putrid stain on
the reputation of bitcoin
BTC-Mining: oh and mircea, nefario, quit it already. You both manage an important
trading platform.
midnightmagic: BTC-Mining: Also, it applies only
to organizations engaged in commercial activities. I
think private individuals acting are NOT covered.
midnightmagic: BTC-Mining: In
the absolute worst case, and in
the event
the Privacy Commissioner of Canada agrees with your case, you
take it
to court, potentially get damages awarded, and can have
the court order
the business
to change
the way it handles privacy information. But it's certainly not a criminal punishment for bad behaviour..
BTC-Mining: I'm
talking about people on
this chat complaining, not on
the
thread
nefario: actually
the only complaint seems
to be
that we're pushing for prosecution
BTC-Mining: But nefario, you should probably consult a lawyer and get a form for people
to sign when
they give GLBSE identification documents.
Enky: so nefario blame
them because
they published
the id of alberto on
the forum?
BTC-Mining: Which is not why you gave
the information. In
that case it would require a court order.
BTC-Mining: It's only illegal if you gave it so
the service can identify you, and
they
then publish it without your consent.
BTC-Mining: I don't know about UK, but here in Canada, I'm almost sure you can agree
to get your personal data published and it's perfectly valid as long as you agreed
to it.
dub: bound
to be
the same as
the equivalent here, which makes it illegal
to disclose shit
to 3rd parties without court order
nefario: also
there are plenty of explanations online if you don't get it
dub: im sure
there are privacy laws in
the uk
nefario: dub: what laws would you like
to
try
to prosecute me under?
dub: and
the UK police or wherever nefario is
dub: if I was bitscalper I would have reported it
to
them
Enky: what
the hell happened?
nefario: I'm not involved in
the hasking
thing at all
nefario: cannot collect or keep data on a person except for
the purposes
they agree
to
mircea_popescu: nefario weren't you claiming
to live in
the uk when i said you lived in china ?
nefario: in
the EU you're bound by
the data protection laws
mircea_popescu: and next he shows up at
the airport in
the uk nefario is kindly asked
to show up
to
the da.
mircea_popescu: the da in her country sends a comity request
to
the brits,
BTC-Mining: As far as I know, agreeing
to disclose your private information is perfectly valid, however.
mircea_popescu: let me explain
this for
the benefit of
those who have no ideea how
the law works.
copumpkin: BTC-Mining:
they can write "you sign away your firstborn" on
that EULA, but it isn't actually valid
BTC-Mining: Yes, but unlike MtGox,
the info you give GLBSE, you give permission for
those info
to be disclosed publicly.
copumpkin: BTC-Mining:
take casascius on
the other hand, releasing pirateat40's home address
copumpkin: BTC-Mining: but it's shady as hell
to release your customers' information without a court order. Note how MagicalTux refuses
to give any information without a police report
copumpkin: BTC-Mining: sure, disclosing in private
to justifiably interested parties is fine. Your shareholders/creditors should definitely be able
to find out if any funny business happens
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining
the problem
there is
that
the first
time he does
that
to someone in
the eu who's pissy enough and complains
to
the auithorities
BTC-Mining: copumpkin,
the premise of giving your info
to GLBSE
to be verified is
to agree
to disclose
them if something happens
to you or your issue.
mircea_popescu: everyone
thinks he has a valid opinion now on
the basis of having read
three posts on an otaku forum somewhere
copumpkin: because I've interacted with him extensively, and he owes me
thousands of bitcoins?
copumpkin: even
then, I don't support publishing personal information except
to law enforcement or people
to serve him with papers
nefario: we're going
the whole hog with
this
nefario: after we catch him I
think
the instances of fraud on GLBSE will drop
nefario: you
think it's ok he's stolen 100K USD worth of bitcoin or more?
copumpkin: you can write a EULA
that says "you sign away your firstborn" but
that doesn't make it legit
copumpkin: if it's
to
the public, it's fucked
copumpkin: nefario:
to
the public? or
to shareholders who request it?
nefario: copumpkin: he agreed
to it when he got verified on GLBSE
copumpkin: some asshole last year enjoyed doing it
to ops in #bitcoin-otc who banned him
copumpkin: doxing
typically has implications of posting all sorts of personal information in public places
copumpkin: yes,
that doesn't mean you publish it publicly
kakobrekla: anyway what nefario
thinks of him doesnt change a
thing
nefario: all
the people I had a chance
to
talk
to at
the conference were
kakobrekla: i can see
the idioticity
through his forum posts
kakobrekla: nefario, walks like a
tard,
talks like a
tard....
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rg: telneting
to port 80 is
the same as connecting with a browser
mircea_popescu: i'm not surprised if you're doing weirdo
telnet into 80
that you'd get on
the list.
rg: MPEX is being a dick
to me
rg: and
they firewalled me out
rg: wtf why wont
this work
rg: im clearly
trying
to cnnect
to port 80
rg: but im not connecting
to
telnet
rg: what's wrong with
telnet?
rg: [james@elephant ~]$
telnet polimedia.us 80
rg: would
think
that's a DNS problem
rg: i cant seem
to reach it
Luke-Jr: yes, 'NO U' is
the correct and only response
to ad hominem
Luke-Jr: "oh, 2 of 3 reviews
thought it was bogus, but we didn't
tell
them it was showed
to some friends, so ignore
that! besides, we're not
trying
to pull anything here -
trust us, ok?"
Azelphur: and doesn't really serve
to change anything
Azelphur: dub: yes, we all know
that religious people are illogical and refuse
to see fact, but picking on
them only makes
them mad :p
dub: which
throws a big old spanner into Luke-Jr's fairy
tale reality