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Eisenhower34: so you spam the irc channel every 5 min with your buy / sell order?
Bugpowder: trade them in an irc channel
Eisenhower34: Bugpower because people want their money back for those shares?
Bugpowder: any exchange listing shares is just an accessory to fraud
Bugpowder: why should those shares be listed anywhere?
Bane_Capital: It's risky to do business with new guys
BTC-Mining: Or better yet, find another exchange and give the shares there
BTC-Mining: Eisenhower: He has to pay manually to each. For those who haven't claimed yet, he has to keep track of the balance owed to them until they claim the shares.
Bane_Capital: and go by that price
Eisenhower34: they gave him the informations but hes still more than crippled
Eisenhower34: he received the details but how is he supposed to pay out dividends for example? or whats the market value for a buyback?
Bugpowder: Goat is going to pay out TYGRR bonds in rice
vampireb: The fact is: both of them are somewhat wrong. I wouldn't deal with either personally.
BTC-Mining: But the fact is, goat received the details to go on without GLBSE.
BTC-Mining: I don't approve the kicking out actually...
vampireb: well i thibk nefario had to deal with that earlier... Goat is sometimes a huge pain in a butt
BTC-Mining: He can make it work outside GLBSE, he just refuses to.
BTC-Mining: Because goat freaking received all the details he needs but keeps complaining. He got kicked for complaining indefinitly about how he didn't want to sell back the fake shares for 0.10 to start with and now keeps complaining how he can't go on without GLBSE but he's received a list of balances.
Bane_Capital: It's too crazy right now
dub: and how many times has he pasted 'You've been given all the details you need to continue operating without GLBSE.' now?
dub: the unswer is obtuse and unhelpful to a Luke-Jr degree
BTC-Mining: Well yeah, but what's the problem with the answer he gave? It's unrelated.
BTC-Mining: Well the balances aren't gone indeed.
BTC-Mining: I still don't see the issue.
BTC-Mining: dub, what's the issue?
dub: what the fuck kind of idiot response is that
dub: nefario really does look to be losing the plot
Diablo-D3: this guy just made it his life quest to fuck maddof
Diablo-D3: oh dont get me wrong, quite a few people tipped them off
mircea_popescu: there were numerous tip offs etc.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the guy who sent them to the SEC (who used to work for maddof) made it known.
mircea_popescu: something beyond superficial. "they had boxes" you know this ? were you there ? wtf.
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3: shortsighted approach with fast jumping to conclusions
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: whatever that is
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you take this very tv approach to things
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: they had several boxes full of maddof's paperwork mailed to them with a "how to bust maddof" guide included in the box
OneMiner: Yes, that's my understanding. I just put it that way because I can't independently confirm it.
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3, they did when they realized it was a scam.
mircea_popescu: OneMiner it's a fact. also people have called the guy.
Eisenhower34: someone is buying theymos out? did he lower his price?
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: the sec didnt stop maddof
OneMiner: I hearsay that the SEC letter was emailed back to them for confromation. It came back as legit. I cannot confirm this.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining so you buying theymos out ?
BTC-Mining: The SEC cares about anything used to defraud people of value. No matter if it's USD, other fiat, gold, pet rocks or Bitcoins.
Diablo-D3: like I said, that guy at the SEC has a high chance of being pirate
mircea_popescu: well apparently it cares enough to email ppl.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the SEC doesnt care about non-currencies
mircea_popescu: which happens to have occured on what seems to be... a fraudulent "exchange" for ponzi schemes ?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 from the pov of the sec, there was this fraudulent offering of a ponzi scheme
OneMiner: Just pointing out the talk. Thought you guys may want to give it a listen.
Diablo-D3: either that, or pirate works for the SEC
grubles: i think the SEC glbse is connected to the pirate passthroughs if anything
Diablo-D3: fud as far as I can tell
OneMiner: Some talk of SEC and future of GLBSE. FUD or legit?
kakobrekla: if you really need pp do it with someone trusted
Diablo-D3: and nefario was just as dumb as goat for dragging this on and then unilaterally deciding to fuck goat's shareholders
Diablo-D3: he never HAD standing in the community
Diablo-D3: I mean Im not saying goat is the good guy here
Diablo-D3: and it would have been public and decided by our equivalent of the SEC
Diablo-D3: there would have been a controlled shutdown over the next 30 days or so
Diablo-D3: I would have kicked goat out too, but not like that
Diablo-D3: nefario pissed goat off, and now all of goat's shareholders pay the penalty
Diablo-D3: yes, and nefario DOESNT have his shit together
Diablo-D3: if NYSE or NASDAQ pulled this shit with a multimillion dollar company, this would be lawyer time
Diablo-D3: hes doing shit that no real world exchange would do
Diablo-D3: and invest in it just to spite nefario
Diablo-D3: I should convince goat to open his sharecropping asset on another exchange
Diablo-D3: I thought he was just asian
Diablo-D3: I dont think he really is from earth
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: do realize goat isnt from our part of the world
Diablo-D3: as far as goat is concerned, from what Ive been able to tell, he thinks nefario is a scammer
Diablo-D3: goat has already made it well known he doesnt care about getting a scammer tag
Diablo-D3: dishonest or not, he doesnt have to do jack shit
Diablo-D3: yes, and goat doesnt have to close the assets properly either.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, and goat didnt agree to that.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: I think it does.
Diablo-D3: as far as I can tell nefario refuses to let goat buy back shares
Diablo-D3: goat doesnt need to move the asset to another exchange just to close it down
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: nope, and now goat has no way to pay his shareholders
Diablo-D3: its basically no different than what he tried to do to DMC and failed
Diablo-D3: if goat just burns the assets now, Im not going to blame him
Diablo-D3: and then shoved goat out the door
Diablo-D3: thats not shit I need to deal with on top of the dmc shit
Diablo-D3: Im glad Im not a tygrr tech or bond-a shareholder
Diablo-D3: the two might be related
Diablo-D3: nefario interfered with goat, and now I think goat might also be drunk
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: if he was planning on shutting down the assets as part of the sunset clauses in the contracts, this is fine
PsychoticBoy: tygrr tech and bond bah
Diablo-D3: but you cant force goat to fix shit if he doesnt want to
Diablo-D3: no, they're not
Diablo-D3: but its what nefario signed off on, and its what shareholders agreed to
mircea_popescu: well how do you know that ?
mircea_popescu: he was too busy.
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy for the record, i was asking for pix of his farm about 6 months ago
PsychoticBoy: things are funny, goat own a mining company which has no hardware lmfao he pays 1mh/s its a loan not a mining bond. In EU that would be called fraud, stinking goat
Diablo-D3: nefario WAS trying to force goat to change his contract
Diablo-D3: I think he tried to do to goat what he tried to do to dmc
Bugpowder: perfect timing for Satoshi Dice to start making money again. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.320
Diablo-D3: nefario basically tried to jew him
Bugpowder: I think the selloff is overdone