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jurov: Yes, i'm a fag. BUT DON'T DARE ME CALL A
TEACHER!
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone knows markm's handle on irc ?
the guy with open
transactions. i know i used
to
talk
to him
mircea_popescu: there's corps listed ranging from ~3k
to close half a mil btc
total market cap, but all of
them actually have a business plan.
mircea_popescu: well, bear in mind
that while size per se is not a criteria, solidity of business is very much so.
Luceo: Makes sense, might come
to you in
the not
too distant future with an asset proposition
mircea_popescu: many points are involved, including subsequent market-making for
the security etc, so it's not a simple scalar value.
mircea_popescu: part of
that contract is an ancillary agreement on fees, which is not public
mircea_popescu: (mpex assets stem from
this contract,
they're not contracts between issuer and shareholder)
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, but whats
the pallpark figure
mircea_popescu: Luceo
the way mpex works is
that a contract between issuer and mpex is negotiated, which becomes
the basis of listing
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Is
there a fee
to create an asset on MPEX?
dub: according
to
these scumbags
mircea_popescu: bitcoin will in
the next 5-10 eyars become
the currency of black pools.
dub: apparently
this is
the future of bitcoin
dub: in nefarios conference address, when he posited a marijuana future appreciating in a 'big baggie'
there was applause,
the only audible response
to his presentation
jurov: eh, someone please come here and kick me unconcsious so
that i learn not
to air my insecurity publicly
mircea_popescu: well if it ever becomes more concrete
then
that we can
talk about it more.
jurov: i admit,
this one is more a gut feeling
than something concrete
mircea_popescu: <jurov> my biggest worry is i could be never sure what
to expect from mpex... << i was
trying
to answer
to
that
jurov: and listen
to swearing of
the programmer
jurov: look.
try
to create yourself a basic desktop app
that could accurately bookkeep user's account, orders,transactions, based on
today's stat interface
mircea_popescu: well, i'm open
to ideeas
to narrow/mitigate your worry.
mircea_popescu: this way at least you have
the guarantee you can't wake up one morning and whoops, shit happened impredictably
mircea_popescu: ok, in practical
terms, how about
this : if any substantial change
that might effect you, i put a ban on your ip so you can't connect. it'll be lifted just as soon as
the issue is resolved ofcourse
jurov: thanks got i don't have
to worry bout interest atm
jurov: and, i'm repeating it for x-th
time,
the btc balance could change for any reason and i have
to pair expected deposits/option exercises against
the balance
mircea_popescu: Luceo i'm sure she'd make more from
that
than she makes from me.
Luceo: I'm sure
the girl you employ could say
the same :P
mircea_popescu: jurov
that's not a worry
that should be allowed
to stand.
Luceo: mircea_popescu: If I had a bitcoin for every unfounded accusation I've had levelled at me on
the forum by shrill idiots, I'd be able
to buy a house with it
jurov: my biggest worry is i could be never sure what
to expect from mpex... as last
time you solved order cancellation problems with "we're busy,
try again later"
mircea_popescu: jurov
take your
time, you're
too far advanced
to blow up.
jurov: if i did
that right now, it could have ended up in flames :/ or i would be overwhelmed by deposits/withdraws
that i do manually atm
mircea_popescu: jurov i'd have had
the girl announce, but by now she has a following of losers
that apparently have absolutely nothing
to do with
their lives.
Luceo: jurov: You should,
they're itching for a GLBSE replacement
mircea_popescu: Luceo well some of
them do actually contribute useful research
jurov: i don't want
to deal with
that crowd yet
Luceo: Who don't run any businesses but still
throw shit at other peoples'
Luceo: tbh
the biggest problem is people like gweedo, puppet, EB etc
jurov: well, actually I want
to provide services
to serious
traders
to make
their life easier.. just wanted
to show i'm serious
Luceo: Yeah,
the drama gets pretty dumb
mircea_popescu: jurov made possibly
the product of
the month, you've never heard of him in between goat, usagi & co
Luceo: idk, I don't even
trade
that much, I
tend
to invest long
term
mircea_popescu: i guess
the problem on forum and
to some degree here is
that all
the bs/drama going on really drowns out all
the constructive stuff made by sane people.
Luceo: Makes sense for casual
traders
Luceo: But
the
trade fees are higher
Luceo: Fee free mpex
trading :P
Luceo: I
think coinbr may help facilitate
that anyway
mircea_popescu: place for people
to
try
things out, learn etc.
the only problem is
that it should be run more like a university
than like a
three monte game
Luceo: I'm interested in cryptoexchange as a Litecoin exchange
too, and possibly Microcash in
the future
mircea_popescu: at
this point
there's no dispute
there's a need for exactly
that, a zero fee exchange for casuals
Luceo: and mpex will retain its place as
the serious exchange for volume
traders
Luceo: I
think cryptostocks will
take glbse's place as a zero-fee exchange for
the casuals
Luceo: mircea_popescu:
There's a few
mircea_popescu: Luceo btw
that wasn't meeant as a dig. i honestly
thought so. are
there any ?
Luceo: Why doesn't assbot show crypto-stocks
trades?
Obsi: what was
the url on glbse
to have it recalculate your account balance?
guruvan-: it's relevant because it's indicative of
the other information being hidden
dub: I will not comment much about my involvement with other scams, i had involvement in some projects prior
to BDT, as you must be aware, but if you are insinuating
that i am a scammer you must have evidences
to back up your claims, and if you ever want
to end up in court,
they must be really solid.
Bugpowder: that could be 3 million $ if bitcoin commerce gets up
to $1T
Bugpowder: you get 40% fee if you win
the case
Bugpowder: we just need one of
them
to get interested in
the subject
Bugpowder: lot of out of work lawyers
these days
though
mircea_popescu: and here i go
thinking random forum replete with random idiots is
the center of
the world
Bugpowder: I assure you
they are making more money elsewhere
than could be extracted from
this dispute
mircea_popescu: it's a pity really
the legal profession doesn't know about
the internet.
they could make a lot of money consulting here.
mircea_popescu: i was having fun reading rosenfeld's attempts
to disentangle himself.
Obsi: BDT
thread I assume?
mircea_popescu: i haven't signed any document allowing him
to post my passport copy all over
the place.
mircea_popescu: Things like what happened in
the previous day, like my passport being posted all over
this forum and reddit be nefario himself are a shame, and a crime in my jurisdiction.
Bugpowder: poker was massive 5 years ago, it probably will be again once gov legalizes and
taxes it. Senator who was blocking legislation is retiring
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic
true. if i was in his place i would do exactly
that.
then people would whine about how much of an asshole i am.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: He should be
telling
them both
to go pound and stop wasting his
time rather
than
trying
to write legalese and look into business records.
Bugpowder: online poker is pretty dead in
the us
Bugpowder: not sure
the bitcoin ecosystem is robust enough without
the exchange points
Bugpowder: market needs fresh n00bs
to put coins in
Bugpowder: I
think
the uncertainty and difficulty getting more cash in, would cause downward pressure
mircea_popescu: thing is, it would create huge publicirty, and
thus drive demand way up
BTC-Mining: Eh, would be bad, but not
the end of
the world.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic maged is in a shit position, he has
to consider idiots.