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mircea_popescu: dude, i have to explain things like ONCE, and in passing
mircea_popescu: then on the 9th was figuring qr on his own
mircea_popescu: and this was like, 3 days after i explained gpg to him. understand, guy didn't even know linux existed on like, the 5th
Diablo-D3: thats an interesting way of solving the jew diamond problem
mircea_popescu: then in the next email was o, wait, i figured it. i got a qr generator! now my phone can read it
mircea_popescu: one dood was whining about having to keep move strings from cold to hot computer
mircea_popescu: i think dbordello does something like this currently.
Diablo-D3: surprised they dont try a chinese version
thestringpuller: gonna use.moneygram/western union as the insts transaction
thestringpuller: usd for now. then euros
thestringpuller: i hope so im launching closed beta this saturday
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller im sure that'd have value
Diablo-D3: they're pretty fast at what they do
thestringpuller: ima do the oppositr
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller something lik that may be worth 10%
Diablo-D3: but thye dont know your name
mircea_popescu: cause nobody asked them so far
Diablo-D3: well, they may REPORT you
Diablo-D3: they dont report you to the IRS.
mircea_popescu: so what exactly is their value proposition ?
Diablo-D3: so yeah, I think its legit and safe
Diablo-D3: have you seen the bitinstant fee schedule?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller hey, unless it somehow blows up in their face its a good thing i think
Diablo-D3: sometimes I venture into other parts of the forum and dont like what I see
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 that's the problem with you :D
thestringpuller: yea they are
Diablo-D3: I'd like to believe we dont :<
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller they're the ppl trying to get a card going, neh ?
mircea_popescu: its so sad mtgox missed the change to be called derpox
Diablo-D3: HURR IMMA DAY TRADERRRRRRR
Diablo-D3: monday and friday always have retard traffic
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i mean less than a day per month with over 10k
thestringpuller: ecommerce cost about 7% per transaction at the end of the day
mircea_popescu: (esp if dollar value stays equal or > to today)
Diablo-D3: its gigantic if you consider the fact we dont have an economy
Diablo-D3: [08:13:09] <mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 if you think in monetary mass terms then volume in btc IS HUGE.
thestringpuller: i have this awesome picture of the ecommerce clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: it makes sense from the past pov, but from the future wtf does this "modern" mean. o, not like you're used to ? heh.
thestringpuller: for the pjysical world
thestringpuller: i feel as tho btc wll be the free iternet currency and will have liquidity to other currencies
mircea_popescu: that will be the end of it.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah. i need to fucking get my physical delivery futures already
thestringpuller: if manufacturers start accepting btc.there will be no need to dump
mircea_popescu: .g drepturi speciale de tragere
thestringpuller: you have to dump.it to.fiay
mircea_popescu: if anyone here plays those rts games where there's like 8 or 100 players and king of the hill ?
mircea_popescu: so people have this bad reference of thinking in usd value. think M3%
thestringpuller: maybe apple when they merge witb google and buy the nsa
mircea_popescu: find me a stock that trades 0.001% of the usd monetary mass irl.
mircea_popescu: however, it 's .25% OF ALL THE MONETARY MASS
mircea_popescu: that 5k s.dice traded this month ? sure, it's "just" 60k
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 if you think in monetary mass terms then volume in btc IS HUGE.
thestringpuller: but its more.money than most see in a lifetime
Diablo-D3: also, if I had money to be into that shit :<
Diablo-D3: I dunno, I could make money on an average day if I was into that shit
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i wouldn't go as far as to say it makes sense to me.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I dunno though, I find it sad the normal stock market makes sense to me but bitcoin doesnt
mircea_popescu: that's the angle i see for sdice. there's this revenue stream in pure btc. there's others, but they are dwindling.
mircea_popescu: (which meanwhile floated up to reflect the new competition in aquiring btc)
mircea_popescu: in 5 year's time (ie, 60 months) will you be willing to fight with the miners for a new 12 or 6 btc block ?
thestringpuller: miners hoard though
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that is what makes btc generators so valuable.
thestringpuller: but we know it will deflate over time
mircea_popescu: many of the early people were "usd parity ?! ?! ??!?!?! ridiculous!!!!!"
thestringpuller: shorting is a useful tool
Diablo-D3: then a year later it went to $30
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: dude, I sold a large chunk of btc when we crossed $1 thinking it would never cross that
Diablo-D3: they have lower $300 billion in assets, their brand is not worth the rest
mircea_popescu: look at the history. making a new btc used to cost <1 btc a year ago
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 bigger problem : do you think btc income will be as cheap in 12 months as it is today ?
mircea_popescu: by this token, apple stock is like, "1978 month roi"
Diablo-D3: because you still have the asset in the end
Diablo-D3: I assume 118 months to break even
thestringpuller: 118 month for full recoup on the initial investment
mircea_popescu: so they're selling, taking a 15% loss on their capital investment to avoid a 3% unrealised gain
Diablo-D3: they suddenly discovered DMC wasnt a scam and tried to get nefario to shut it down
Diablo-D3: thats what pissed all the DMC shareholders off
mircea_popescu: i think many people buy/sell based on the immediate dividends expectation
mircea_popescu: ya seems to have retraced a little
thestringpuller: its linkes to the ipo
mircea_popescu: what did it come to ? something like 5% ish ?
thestringpuller: someone posted some numbers stating the roi on the sdice dividends is over a year
mircea_popescu: anyway you need significant capital to mm that. it's a 400k-ish float object
thestringpuller: sorru thumb typing on phone
thestringpuller: no i meant o saw the link
mircea_popescu: maybe the thing lost money on bets ?
mircea_popescu: somebody had a nice analysis thread in forum, do you have a link ?
thestringpuller: but whats the point...
thestringpuller: i was gonna try to market make
thestringpuller: is it because of the last dividend payment?
thestringpuller: qq real quick off topic sorta: why is s.dice illiquid atm?
mircea_popescu: half o' those dunno what day it is.
mircea_popescu: eh the forum
thestringpuller: like the people who trash you on the forums like children
mircea_popescu: what haters tho ? everyone's been very supportive since day one.
mircea_popescu: course it doesn't actually have the mkt depth to liquidate for 6mn, and anyway the contract prevents me from selling more than half.
thestringpuller: a lot haters out there
mircea_popescu: he ran this glbse thing collecting investment and subscribing it in that programme
mircea_popescu: originally my stock was offered in a ballot system (anyone could send money, fixed block would be allocated proportionally at the end of an interval)
mircea_popescu: .g trilema mpoe resultate septembrie