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Chaaang-Noi: but they should not use it
Chaaang-Noi: the should hold the name so no one will use it
BTC-Mining: The thing is, no one can enforce it and someone will eventually try to claim "Bitcoin Foundation"
BTC-Mining: I'm a bit annoyed but don't mind the name too much.
BTC-Mining: Well, as the core devs seems to be participating... they're already kind of making things themselve anyway to start with. And been doing a great job.
Chaaang-Noi: i dont like the name
Chaaang-Noi: cuz all it is is the mt gox and bitinstant foundation to pay gavin...
BTC-Mining: But I mean, most open source project have an "official" foundation which is not technically... well official at all.
Chaaang-Noi: im fine he has a foundation, and i want him to have one
Chaaang-Noi: no one left to trust or work with really
Chaaang-Noi: gavin i am not happy about cuz of the name of his foundation.. but other than that fine
Chaaang-Noi: people i dont trust, mt gox, nefario now theymos...
BTC-Mining: Is he well known other than as theymos?
Chaaang-Noi: theymos... oh man, he has turned out to be a scummy fuck
Chaaang-Noi: however theymos gave a guy a scammers tag just for that months ago
Chaaang-Noi: theymos said peole should keep the double payments and not give back to nefario
BTC-Mining: Even if yes, most have zero trust in Nefario.
BTC-Mining: Kind of taking your personal grudge against Nefario and venging yourself at the detriment of others who are waiting for their funds.
BTC-Mining: Doesn't seems to be the answer to me.
BTC-Mining: So... who's advocating that people keep the double payment for themselve?
mircea_popescu: the twitter feed ? or what data you mean ?
thestringpuller: can we have access to historical mpex data?
thestringpuller: ive stopped checking them since I discovered usagi is incompetent
mircea_popescu: OK, I stand corrected. And if you prefer lulz over doing some research how exactly MPOE is financed, then sorry, I'll rather leave any further discussion to MPOE-PR .
mircea_popescu: what's this double payments thing ?!
EskimoBob: rats do not like sinking boats... theymos khmkk....
EskimoBob: i guess there is always at least 2 wasy to resolve problems, right, correct and everything else
EskimoBob: Chaang-Noi: it just absurd. All they had to do was keep the damn thing open but close trading except issuer<->client
Chaang-Noi: what a fail boat glbse has turned into
Chaang-Noi: theymos and other owners will ahve to cover the losses
Chaang-Noi: and its odd cuz they only ahve enought to pay 90% anyway
Chaang-Noi: EskimoBob they have for some not all
EskimoBob: "money gram" ? What is that?
mircea_popescu: and meanwhile litter the fields with dead companies.
mircea_popescu: well man... this is one of those problems that'll make the solver rich
thestringpuller: they were able to make gmail free because of their ad revenue
thestringpuller: hmm, that's 1-2 days vs 10 minutes
mircea_popescu: a, the fees.
mircea_popescu: (well, basically, i will be taking lots of money in (from mtgox ?) and doling it out to many people who paid me btc. what do i do to make it legal ?)
thestringpuller: I don't think lawyers will have advice on that
thestringpuller: okay so what about padding the fees?
mircea_popescu: run your plan by them, see what they say
mircea_popescu: well then you should ask them lol
thestringpuller: so all the nitty legal stuff is covered
mircea_popescu: too many things to fugde up.
mircea_popescu: you really shouldn't be going into something like this w/o a lawyer partner.
thestringpuller: can't I just write one of https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/Terms.aspx these
thestringpuller: you talking AML?
mircea_popescu: you'll be getting tons of money in and out.
mircea_popescu: i would think your greater problem would be handling money flows.
thestringpuller: I can't seem to figure out a way to do that with money gram fees (dey such a monopoly)
thestringpuller: I read some literature on "free as a value proposition" and in order to pad an expense of a service that is free, you have to have something else to make up for it
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu, i want to do the withdrawal version of BitInstant, allow for people to send a service BTC's (like fastcash4bitcoins.com) and sends out moneygrams within 10 minutes. The only thing is padding the fees
thestringpuller: lemme grab a keyboard amd a chair and we will talk
dub: probably somethign to do with not having a pc
dub: was too bought into RA1 for that shit
kakobrekla: any title for the movie'
dub: actually reminds me, I think there might be some 'prequil' books I havent read yet
dub: I drag out and watch the '84 and '00 movies every couple of years, never gets old
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 why covered tits?
Diablo-D3: you know, I'd like to watch a version of dune like this
dub: I know of at least one ISP that uses them, and not for CE shit
kakobrekla: wasnt expecting that
dub: a lot of people actually like microtik too
kakobrekla: a there it is, very thick http://shrani.si/f/3r/x5/4aNMls9T/imag0228.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQOB7wFxSmY this was saboteur
Diablo-D3: oh hai, Ive heard this before
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKNWgNwLA << ok, this. this WAS THE FUCKING SOUND OF HAPPINESS
kakobrekla: hehe i got the best manual ever with my new router lemme take a pic
dub: then there was teh decoder rings
Diablo-D3: some games came with thick fucking tomes
Diablo-D3: to continue the game
Diablo-D3: having to look in the manual for a phrase
mircea_popescu: now i wanna hear that header sound once more ;/
dub: early copy protection wanst exactly hard to beat
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu had the same thing here, only via FM radio
mircea_popescu: i got saboteur that way
mircea_popescu: half the time it was like... cracked programs too
mircea_popescu: beee-beeeep trdhgkjdfhkjghehekrjghe
mircea_popescu: they literally broadcast the code. you could load it into a z80 with a cable
mircea_popescu: dub early 90s romanian tv station used to have a computer show
dub: you typed out the code, played game once
Diablo-D3: hah, I still have one of those books
dub: I used to buy games in a book
dub: that was well into the PC era though
markac: "Felix is an open source programming language which provides an ML style type system with a syntax that C++ programmers should find easy to learn." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_(programming_language)
mircea_popescu: dub not rally, just romania was behind the times :D
mircea_popescu: a these weren't so big. those cabinet thingees.
Diablo-D3: it was like 15 feet tall
mircea_popescu: (i'm not making this shit up, my dad was working in a govt research center)
mircea_popescu: actually, i typed on a cardpuncher, aged like 5.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hah, ever see those gigantic hard drive platters?
mircea_popescu: dub they had old 7inch ones in my computer lab at school, wall decoration
dub: no more programming whatever you needed again every time you turn the computer on
Diablo-D3: single floppy drive, no modem, no harddrive (which were like 20mb and the size of the computer, even came in matching case)
mircea_popescu: dub twyms.
thestringpuller: brb mircea_popescu will you be around later? id love to pick your brain some more. your info is invaluable
Diablo-D3: I started on dos too
mircea_popescu: the difference is shocking, they've all read the faq etc.
mircea_popescu: i think they read my emails > 500 times each.