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EskimoBob: the assets-otc happening that's paling in the theater near you :)
EskimoBob: lets talk more serious stuff.
EskimoBob: huh... I can not remember that
Chaang-Noi: was this something i wrote or someone else?
Chaang-Noi: with pirate, i posted the photos lol
EskimoBob: yeah, something about you escaping to Thailand etc
Chaang-Noi: i was just in the usa
EskimoBob: I was reading somewhere that you are not really comfortable in US because of some old shit
EskimoBob: but list never the less
EskimoBob: not on The list :)
Chaang-Noi: unless pirate was doing some terrorist like shit
Chaang-Noi: i kinda doubt they will anyway
Chaang-Noi: they will have to ship me over from thailand
EskimoBob: especially if they ask for third party documents or what not
EskimoBob: remember court order or they can go and fuck themselves
Chaang-Noi: yeah im not doing shit until they contact me
EskimoBob: let them send you a letter with what they want
EskimoBob: unless they show you a court order (publish it) that prohibits the publication of documents
Chaang-Noi: esp if they wont tell me what they want
Chaang-Noi: they want me to call them and they tape my phone call, not going to happen
EskimoBob: chats are bull shit and if they start twisting your arm, you have nothing to prove it. Chat ONLY via letters and publish every one of them
Chaang-Noi: then i will direct them to my lawyer
Chaang-Noi: im going to wait for them to contact me directly
EskimoBob: and post the scan
Chaang-Noi: seems the SEC wants to chat with me
Chaang-Noi: i have trusted friends who called the SEC
Chaang-Noi: i did not see any papers from the SEC
Chaang-Noi: anyway the other people are now ready to sue pirate...
EskimoBob: did you see the papers from SEC?
EskimoBob: did the SEC really show up?
Chaang-Noi: but then GLBSE fail...
Chaang-Noi: i send a lawyer to collect assets
Chaang-Noi: i had to operate on my own for the share holders
Chaang-Noi: when pirate did that wait til the 12th thing most people quit on me
EskimoBob: Chaang-Noi: how's your ninja team doing? Any progress? When can we see bleading and toothless Trendon begging for mercy and transferring all the stolen coins back?
EskimoBob: gpumax was spamming for news sign-up's not too long ago
EskimoBob: this seen is worst than the Mexican soap opera
EskimoBob: what? Another drama in the happy-happy-joy-joy bitcoin land?
mircea_popescu: i didn't revise the claim. what i pointed out was that third parties will be able to verify this at a set point in the future.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I think it's kind of shitty to claim that harnett defaulted, and then to revise the claim to say you think he will
mircea_popescu: bad trust criterion i think
thestringpuller: it's the only thing that consistently makes me money
thestringpuller: i only really trust my mpex account
thestringpuller: I'm checking the forums.
thestringpuller: noagendamarket do you think harnett is defaulting
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is part of the btc banking illuminati
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BTC-Mining: It's now the wee hours of the morning. I'm off for today.
BTC-Mining: Well, we'll see about that very soon.
BTC-Mining: Not sure why you would think so for Harnett
mircea_popescu: aren't you used to me by now ? i know things.
BTC-Mining: so... how do you know if there's no announcement or anything?
mircea_popescu: you will, once he fails to pay my 500 btc end of the month
BTC-Mining: aye, so where can I read about that? Do you remember the thread?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it's a future event. ten days or so.
thestringpuller: man the economy is gonna plummet
mircea_popescu: the only people willing to borrow are those who don't intend to repay.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't work in the real world, either. if you compensate for bad loans by jacking up rates eventually you create a vicious circle :
thestringpuller: i guess usagi had no chance then
mircea_popescu: i'm also sure he's going to spend most of those years in various courts.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure he has a great plan to make everything right over the span of a few years
BTC-Mining: which one is that?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the last play-pretend forum banker defaulted recently, didn't he ?
BTC-Mining: Mining is profitable... just not for fixed mhash/s bond because of what's stated in the thread.
thestringpuller: are they more viable on the scale of "bad to good"
mircea_popescu: what about them ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's a cash-flow business. let me dig the thing up
thestringpuller: or is it just your profit decreases to 0 over time
thestringpuller: so its not profitable to mine?
kuzetsa: people playing satoshi dice will keep wasting time with the various faucets, and eating transaction fees to pay the miners for their electricity
thestringpuller: if you have hardware couldnt you liquidate your equipment over time to somewhat cover the cost of keeping up with moores law...
mircea_popescu: you'll have to double power every 18 months just to stay the same, and this AFTER it stops growing.
thestringpuller: at some point 0 btc transactions will take days to clear no?
mircea_popescu: miners are only secure in the sense that you're secure in the knowledge your investment will eventually devalue to almost 0.
BTC-Mining: Eh, tell that to those who bought fixed hashing bonds...
BTC-Mining: Sometimes even under or near the next dividend's value.
thestringpuller: miners are the only secure form of returns imo
BTC-Mining: All due to a few purchases under 10% of the asset's value.
BTC-Mining: Sometimes as low as 5%-30% of the asset's average value.
BTC-Mining: It then allowed me to have a lot of lowball bids everywhere.
BTC-Mining: More than I could actively trade, so most had to be left in some asset or another.
BTC-Mining: Only because I put a lot of money upfront to start trading.
noagendamarket: was nice trading that
thestringpuller: but you have access to moning revenue
BTC-Mining: And the movements were quite extreme, it was ridiculous
BTC-Mining: Well that'd be mostly what I was doing then.
thestringpuller: just trading on price swaps i guess youd call it
dub: mmm the mrs brought me back a 21 y/o
kakobrekla: and thats about it.
kakobrekla: just imagine eur is btc on the exchange
kakobrekla: you can try the demo, its eur only
jurov: dunno, perhaps i'll have to try it myself to understand why btc/usd is irrelevant at bit4x
kakobrekla: for the rest of the stuff 0.01 is min, so 100 btc with 1:10 will do
jurov: so i deposit, say, 100BTC. now, can i use them for usd/eur/gold forex trades, no?
kakobrekla: as site says its irrelevant as per your trading
jurov: then they have to take bitcoin movement into account
jurov: but if someone funds with btc and want to trade trades eur/usd, and later wants to cash out in bitcoins, you use current exch rate, no?
kakobrekla: all deposits that clients made are in my cold storage
kakobrekla: we never convert the btc
jurov: but what happens if btc shoots up? you eat the loss?