pete_dushenski: though 'ath' parses quite a bit like defunct 'atc' but that's probably just me
cazalla: i unno, i figured it was obvious
cazalla: at least in the context of qntra and having used all time high and ath a few times before in qntra articles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00040818 = 3.7883 BTC [+]
cazalla: pete_dushenski, don't you know that variety speak? :P
pete_dushenski: which reminds me that i've been meaning to do a variety speak guide for noobs...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14125 @ 0.00040437 = 5.7117 BTC [-]
cazalla: mebe ath is more a gamer thing, for example, muh dps hit an ath
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00040818 = 3.8573 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: that they need any defense at all should be a red flag to society
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00040818 = 6.0411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4034 @ 0.00040437 = 1.6312 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 344740 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 2011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44645581059.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.36719
BingoBoingo: I don't know much more than they apparently exist
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00040818 = 20.4906 BTC [+]
cazalla: indiancandy1, can probably be had for cheap on fiverr
cazalla: you'll also be needing a time machine to go back to 2008 for when youtube ranked videos solely on views alone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00040818 = 2.7756 BTC [+]
starzz_: if I have been everified in bitcoin-otc does that translate to bitcoin assets
BingoBoingo: starzz_: It does with gribble, but for voice here you need to send assbot !up
BingoBoingo: starzz_: Also you probably want to go to #freenode and request a cloak, some asshole intermittently runs a DoS bot here
ben_vulpes: do it in the nude, only way to get that kind of traffic.
ben_vulpes: you're competing with kim kardashian, after all.
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: You know how she got them on payroll...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00040818 = 8.8983 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: No she didn't. Not until she made that flick with Ray J
ben_vulpes: you gotta drop this "can't do anything cuz no money lol" attitude and focus on getting some money.
ben_vulpes: don't fuck around trying to get the attention of interns in tv companies, that's not going to fly.
ben_vulpes: go fuck a television company executive, wrap him around your finger, leverage like that.
danielpbarron: can you try to condense your thoughts into single lines?
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Have you considered dating a rapper?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5961 @ 0.0004118 = 2.4547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0004118 = 1.5031 BTC [+]
punkman: indiancandy1: no rappers in uk << plenty of them but they are all poor
punkman: on the other hand, London's full of people with way too much money
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 4390.3307 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 993477.3393 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0440 seconds
decimation: and farmers and people that need to be scientifically literate."
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 236.5, vol: 7821.09675746 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 230.106, vol: 7852.57648 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 237.07, vol: 31142.23300928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 235.8784, vol: 138020.38710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 235.0, vol: 21.3968592 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 233.964227, vol: 77.03579533 | Volume-weighted last average: 235.85934577
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.98, Best ask: 236.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.77000, Last trade: 236.88, 24 hour volume: 7857.00240715, 24 hour low: 232.48, 24 hour high: 247.0, 24 hour vwap: 237.411802714
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13048 @ 0.00040876 = 5.3335 BTC [-]
mats: hm, i learned today you can prepend your prompt with a ':' and have a ';' at the end, it will ignore whats in between so you can just copy and paste lines right from your terminal
nubbins`: danielpbarron yeah, it's serving up files via smb right now
nubbins`: no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering
danielpbarron: bitcoind: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by bitcoind)
nubbins`: didn't alf post some binaries to the ml?
danielpbarron: and that's after i added a 'testing' repository to the sources list and upgraded libc
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering << ahahaha
danielpbarron: not that this is even what's gonna be used ultimately; i thought i'd just try it out real quick and it ended up becoming an obsession
gribble: Current Blocks: 344752 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1999 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48520572098.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.93321
nubbins`: you're not trying to compile it on the pogo itself, are you?
danielpbarron: i'm using the binary i cross-compiled on my gentoo machine
nubbins`: is the pitfall incomplete search results?
mod6: this was never actually posted publically yet. there is some very strange bjam error that doesn't allow the bash script to continue automatically. if one runs it, then you'll have to comment out the build lines for openssl, bdb, and boost and re-run.
mod6: I can post it if you wanna use it though. the hope was to have a fixed one here by sometime next week.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1: but she had money b4 << girl's done her homework.
BingoBoingo: Less than 6 months left for 0.7.2 WTF to finish syncing
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1: ytview chargs 6000 dollars << you're prolly going to end up stuck around that sort of price, quarter cent per k, whatever.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pedestrian AMD powered laptop AMD E-350 CPU
mod6: sorry, damn hotel wireless keeps dropping me like every 90 seconds.
danielpbarron: so is it possible that i need to recompile my bitcoind, and this debian install is just fine? and for some reason ArchLinux doesn't mind?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I honestly and humbly lack the faculties of knowledge necessary to determine such
mircea_popescu: decimation: Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' << afaik this view was never controversial. i was kinda surprised to see people react to my ocasional statement to the effect with total shock.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nope, syncing "in the wild" to make sure it can. Looking like it will be a sub 2 week sync time so happy with that
mod6: the static build script seems to exit after line 53 for some reason, haven't had time to debug. if one should figure out a workaround/fix/patch for that, that'd be much appreciated. otherwise I can fix myself when I'm back.
mod6: be advised that lines 4, 6 & 8 of that script need to be tuned to your local environment!
mircea_popescu: man with young children. "how did i fall into such a life!"
nubbins`: sadly, the cheapest pogo a canadian can land is $25usd
mod6: anyway, the foundation will publish a polished script sometime during the first few weeks of march.
mod6: sorry I didn't get a chance to clean that up before I left.
nubbins`: right, someone mentioned the exercise in patience i have awaiting me
mod6: for the vi-impared, if you run the script as-is, and you hit that weird issue as I did, simply start up vi and run this
mod6: then :wq and re-run the script
nubbins`: asciilifeform most electronic items simply do not offer a checkout button for canadians
nubbins`: danielpbarron insanely cheap for everything but electronics.
nubbins`: phun phact, we order most of our paper from brooklyn
nubbins`: i don't think there's any special duty or anything, just american electronics websites usually charge limbs to .ca
nubbins`: you mailing me ten packaged pogos would raise eyebrows at customs
danielpbarron: eh, unless you're getting more than one it's probably not worth it anyway for just 15 bucks
mircea_popescu: so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ?
mod6: last note: this is all predicated on the fact that one would have run the v0.0.8 perl script to patch the R.I. So you might need to alter line 62 to point to the correct bitcoin build directory.
nubbins`: it really is only like another $8 for the purple logo'd one, hey?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? << Surprised Cryptsy didn't hit the shitlist earlier
nubbins`: i feel like i have a sata drive from my last laptop somewhere
danielpbarron: that's the idea / that most people probably have a harddrive they can rip out of an old laptop
nubbins`: danielpbarron in fact, if i order two pogos on ebay, it automatically adds import charges
nubbins`: overall slightly cheaper per unit than ordering one
nubbins`: added import charges, marginally higher shipping cost
BingoBoingo sees need for WoT endorsed BTC courier service. If in 2 years does not exist and BTCexchange rate/Qntra workload stabilizes may consider
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0004118 = 5.0446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron srsly, mayhap make a business out of it ? btc clearance warehouse
mircea_popescu: "ship me anything you want, ask for anything you want"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. Obstacle is pricing drug fucks out of service.
mircea_popescu: "leaving the us to go chase the republic ? ship me your shit. ill store or sell it"
BingoBoingo: mod6: You know once 0.5.3.x stabilizes there's probably an opportunity for driving utilization by submitting it to various *BSD Ports trees as bitcoind-LTS
BingoBoingo: Well, appliance use of various BSD's is not uncommon
BingoBoingo: Old desktop + OpenBSD pf = loadbalancer sort of thing/
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not so much earlier as to be alien or ancient. I mean they were propping up dementia guy from the TV ads as a figurehead
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42461 @ 0.00041362 = 17.5627 BTC [+] {3}
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, no those books aren't albums. Just pulp. Titles on the spines look great on the bookshelf though. Cover art isn't bad either
mircea_popescu: it IS clear to a baby, but only because babies are retards.
ben_vulpes: it's supposed to validate the underlying thesis.
mircea_popescu: this neoprotestant platonic pedophilia is outright obscene
mircea_popescu: ESPECIALLY in the context of how agitated they are about fucking children.
nubbins`: why did this guy stop updating his blog
mircea_popescu: alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg
mircea_popescu: even if that happened... he's not actually good enough.
nubbins`: prolly got fed up and moved to the woods
mircea_popescu: listen, there's not that much hr available. given your other beliefs you are required to believe he's the lizard hitler now.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> guy admits to being a drunk... << Most drunks do. Drunks are braggarts.
mircea_popescu: notice that there's no space for lizard hitler being any kind of stalin.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re the name, i definitely got that one pat. no romanian's ever going to be a contender. and that mircea chick really faded after a brief moment of fame
danielpbarron: i tried to buy twitter followers on the silk road once, but canceled when the guy couldn't decrypt the GPG message containing the username (not for my account / i was trying to freak out an associate of mine who takes twitter way too seriously despite having only 50 followers)
mircea_popescu: which, coincidentally or not, centers on me writing an article about her
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno, that artist and his blawg...
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 basically he's saying this is a full time job and you won't be seeing any roi as an amateur
danielpbarron: indiancandy1, btw -- bought followers are worthless; they don't get you impressions or engagements. it just makes the number on your profile look big (so what)
mircea_popescu: well, she's trying to do something. which in principle is sane, better do something than nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you got twitch ? or how the fuck is that ipad dating app called
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 : buy borrow or steal an ipad ; install tinder ; go out wtih ALL the guys, insist they promote you on their social media.
danielpbarron: the app is so popular, the truth anti-smoking ads assume you're already familiar with it
mircea_popescu: do at least 3 a day, that's 20 a week. a month later you got mommentum plus enough dining out experience to start your own cooking blog
danielpbarron: wait is that not a joke.. is that what that hashtag meant?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you that if she had the mettle to obey me exactly she'd have that viral she wants.
mircea_popescu: the problem is, you don't get the girl in a position to execute without the basement halfyear.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The statement preceeding the hashtag is literally what the hashtag is all about
indiancandy1: nigerians do yahoo yahoo it involves witchcraft
indiancandy1: there are actually witchdoctors that specialise in this 419 thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it provides structure for the conversation.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware
mircea_popescu: you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz.
cazalla: nothing worse than a woman enthral by her iphone, i'd bet the tinder girls are much worse
cazalla: i would do the twitch thing tbh, tinder dating you are capped at one man per date, twitch is unlimited
BingoBoingo: <indiancandy1> it should be called seeking locals << This is why you suck at spam 101
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2015 02:47:47; mircea_popescu: do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ?
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: I know. It's jsut actual descriptive names don't ever go viral
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more?
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, the app helps in that it isn't aimed at establishing long-term relationships; you can already have a new one-night-stand ready for when you're done with the current one
cazalla: indiancandy1, quit slut shaming
danielpbarron: from what i understand though, the guys are the sluts; the app is for women
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs
BingoBoingo: <indiancandy1> there is one for gays also << Grindr
cazalla: back in my day we had to use adult friend finder, none of this fancy iphone shit
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your forget idiots suck at math
cazalla: likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under
indiancandy1: if i had 2 compare it to hotels i would say a bar is more 5star and pub is like local bed and breakfast
cazalla: pub is more cheap food and booze, bar is more.. cocktail.. you'd never get a cocktail at a pub.. unless ya like a poof or something
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: generally you make 'em.
danielpbarron: indiancandy1, Connecticut (the state next to new york city)
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under << Here pub is fancier subset of bar where craft beer poofs congregate
BingoBoingo:
http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-10-reasons-why-the-gabf-sucks.html << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. I’m well-aware of the brewery association’s rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli
BingoBoingo: gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesn’t mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Bourbon is good, but still not as efficient as pure ETOH
decimation: champagne from champagne or fizzy wine in general?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, I linked a text authored by a person with more polished thoughts on the matter
ben_vulpes: decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference.
BingoBoingo: I’m not going to go overboard here by claiming that there’s somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanal—say, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor?
BingoBoingo: "There’s a gathering ‘round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams… And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar
BingoBoingo: ely half a cup of soda water gone rotten, say aaah, and limply burp. Hooray?"
mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Not quite. More people opining on the forgetableness of champagne for the serious drink hobbyist.
danielpbarron: thestringpuller> danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? << no; not sure if i've even been to windsor
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink?
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening
ben_vulpes: was there anything interesting on display at all?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it was like 2 other guys and about 7 girls. exactly one barely fuckable in the lot, and she looked and acted like a 17 yo cutting class.
ben_vulpes: sounds par for your experiences down south.
mircea_popescu: on re-read i guess to some people that sounds like praise. it ain't.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes somehow this disease where "words, we are using them" has definitely spread to here.
cazalla: you know, one of the many things i don't grasp about bdsm is what looks like a desire of people to do it in a social setting than privacy of ones own home
cazalla: off to the side, out of view, yes, but not a habit either
cazalla: no, not really, i like the comfort of home where shameful acts remain out of sight
unbalanced: Sheesh, the conversation always takes a turn in the minutes it takes me to read a link and find a relevant reply
cazalla: i'm not, but prob for reasons other than implied (don't like to eat in front of others i'm guessing, but that does not bother me)
mircea_popescu: jus' saying, you know, each has his own inclinations. some ppl like it. some don't mind it. etc.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced happens to me occasionally too. {|||} etc stuff
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: You're welcome. It's been a while
unbalanced: I wander off for a few months and sites fall off the web like flies.
unbalanced: I take it Altcoin is history? And Virtex and VoS here in Canada.
mircea_popescu: for plenty of girls being fucked in public is a major trespass, and sexual arousal and taboo breaking are intrinsically linked.
cazalla: i assume you mean in full view of the public and not hidden away up a side alley
cazalla: a romp in the side alley = fear of being caught, but in full view of the public and on display for anyone that cares to watch.. must be something else?
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: ATC died, mining became unteneable
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: On the plus side ATC's death highlighted a critical vulnerability in mining economics for alts
unbalanced: I guess when X-BT was gone, miners saw no market for ATC?
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: ATC's death prompted X-BT to end, not the reverse
unbalanced: Still, hard to find "a greater fool" to dump ATC on with me absent.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Well the MPIF ATC profit center died because MP ordered it when he saw continuing anything aTC would involve potentially unbounded costs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2796 @ 0.00041502 = 1.1604 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << This
unbalanced: *nice work to all involved meaning BingoBoingo / cazalla / mp, unless I'm missing anyone.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Our best recent piece was asciilifeform's disk controller epic
unbalanced: Oh jeez, I see the Dec statement, lots of authors. Nice model!
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Our most retweeted recently though was me cribbing crunchbase, because fuck Superfish/TimDraper
unbalanced: asciilifeform: my favourite part of that was learning that there's a "Persistence Division" -- sounds like an 80's electronica band
mircea_popescu: cazalla well... something else, sure. like a strong signal to the other females.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00041502 = 5.7273 BTC [+]
cazalla: looks like one of the cloudhashing.com guys has a new scam at freebitcoins.com to harvest emails at 0.0001 per
unbalanced: Would you say Qubes is worth trying as a more secure OS? I think you mentioned it once wayyy back...
mircea_popescu: 2 cents an email ? hey, that's about what megalists cost.
unbalanced: ...so I looked for a laptop that would support all the goodies in Qubes, and ended up buying -- wait for it -- a Lenovo.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: My online machine is still a 2011 vintage cheapo thinkpad. Love it.
unbalanced: Of course it wasn't a consumer Lenovo, but it seems if you buy the latest Intel processor for security features you may be buying a factory-pwned unit anyway.
BingoBoingo is coming around to idea that if linux is used msut be built from toothpicks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun think you understand how pubescent male brain works.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The cheapo lenovos come with AMD
unbalanced: I'd buy a used ThinkPad but who knows how diddled that would be now from 4 years of some shlub surfing porn?
BingoBoingo finds present online machine valuable because acquired well before could have been considered interesting personally
danielpbarron: i chatted with someone the other day who claimed to be using a "custom OS" / when pressed further he admitted it was ubuntu with some features disabled
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "hi baby i'm a producer". " i made an os"
unbalanced: BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the thing is, when i don't actually sleep i revert to these 4 hour cycles with about an hourish of downtime, and im fine.
mircea_popescu: i think the pathology results from not actually respecting that.
mircea_popescu is one of those rare folks that can stand guard two weeks and still appreciate humor at the end of it.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, sleep deprived hysteria? had this after the first week with baby, i have never laughed so hard and all i assume as a result from total lack of sleep
unbalanced: I saw bitwork.io in an early qntra.net article... is the maker from around here, an #asset-erian?
danielpbarron: i went a few days without sleep and began to hallucinate
cazalla: unbalanced, i don't believe so, exchanged a few emails with the guy who built that but unsure if he ever came here
mircea_popescu: cazalla no hysteria, but i get very disinclined to listen to what excuses anyone may have.
unbalanced: cazalla, thanks -- I was pondering a similar idea about how to divvy-up boring micro data-cleaning work by pipelining it to many users and doing micro-payments.
unbalanced: Like captcha's I'd need a human decision for the choices my code couldn't make... and would need to run each one by say 5 people then take the "wisdom of the crowds" consensus answer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29793 @ 0.00040662 = 12.1144 BTC [-] {2}
unbalanced: Simple stuff for a native speaker in a given language: correcting capitalization on names, coding mistyped countries
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13507 @ 0.00040429 = 5.4607 BTC [-]
unbalanced: Ohhhh that's why I get called asshat all the time.
unbalanced: But the question is, how do people driving by know I lurk here?
BingoBoingo: 'Ernest Gallo told and re-told a story about driving through Atlanta and spotting a man drinking on the sidewalk. “What’s the word?” Gallo called out. The response was instantaneous: “Thunderbird!” and both the wino and the millionaire dissolved into laughter.'
unbalanced: mircea_popescu: yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything there... I was hoping for an API to hook into but my needs are custom enough I'll likely have to roll my own UI anyway.
BingoBoingo: "Not surprisingly, this misguided attempt at respectability failed. Thereafter, Gallo disassociated itself from Thunderbird by simply removing the Gallo name from the Thunderbird label."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00040466 = 1.214 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: "Television ads featured the fictional characters “Frank Bartles” and “Ed Jaymes,” two kindly old men so honest and down-to-earth they ended each spot by thanking viewers “for your support.”"
ben_vulpes: everything in the ruby world is abandonware
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: what do you seriously expect from the language that spawned the framework that killed vircurex
BingoBoingo: For people lacking history Vircurex was what cryptsy aspired to be until Vircurex was robbed to the point no one bothered robbing it anymore
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it also runs davout's thing
unbalanced: We get a lot of data coming in where users enter things like "NHL" "Nat'l Hockey League" "N.H.l." or umpteen other bastardizations of whatever the short text field is asking for.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Davout also cares enough though to run off of a name. Vircurex was run by "Kumala" who even mircea_popescu doesn't care enough about to dox.
unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore via buzzword compliance: gamification, cryptocurrency, micropayments... child labor... addictive push notifications, the whole nine yeards.
unbalanced: Purely scratching my own itch there. Not proposing a wetware CPU startup. No Tesla coming out of this one, just fewer manual SQL statements.
unbalanced: Bingo, I get Bartles & Jaymes confused with the two cranberry farmers standing out in the marsh in their hip-waders
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> everything in the ruby world is abandonware << everything in the webworld is abandonware.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Maybe that is the point of the exercise. Everything one could want to know about "marketing" can be learned from Modern Drunkard.
unbalanced: I will be sure to leave branded empties near schoolyards like the Gallo salesment.
unbalanced: Yes, I remember when Amazon came out with theirs, I read that story...
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unbalanced: Heh. For data coding I think I'd have to limit use to trusted/trained users... hence my child labor crack.
unbalanced: We'll whip up a few pages where a few seniors and students can tap big colourful rectangles to make their selections.
unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along.
unbalanced: Steve Jobs is training the work force of the future, who knew?
unbalanced: Tap and flick your way to a food pellet and a little more water in your dish!
ben_vulpes: there's a particularly good sci fi story about people who lease their wetware out during the day, are monitored for minute reactions.
unbalanced: That's a lot of electricity for a Chinese prison.
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unbalanced: Careful asciilifeform she's probably watching us right now.
unbalanced: Did I see a bitbet.py somewhere in the past month or so? That sounded neat.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The classical bitbet.py is useful
ben_vulpes: okay i lost a weekend to ruby dependency hell
BingoBoingo is still convinced NetBSD is a largely Jap fascination much like tentacle porn
BingoBoingo seriously though NEtBSD was for people who wanted sudo on their toasters
BingoBoingo: Building bitcoin-qt through an exercise that largely involved deleting makes me wonder what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting code
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking "Midori" web browser might be a next candidate
BingoBoingo offers "midori" web browser particularly because all C
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Exactly. I'm just now discovering the power of the delete key and like a toddler want to use it on everything.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah, I saw boring google, bot lulzfest you screencapped
cazalla: not my screencap but i still see it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Best part is people who generally need antihelminthics... generally could not afford "aspirin"
cazalla: what a fucking other fucker.. just chipped my front tooth after only having it fixed like a month ago
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Welcome to the wonderful world of ceramics
BingoBoingo finds it amazing that maximally empowered copyrastas would have te rest of humanity die by worms
BingoBoingo: No need to fund worm spread. Spread well enough on their own
cazalla: BingoBoingo, black people sorta ruined gold teeth didn't they?
BingoBoingo: Only necessary ingredient is pricing drug out of veterinary practice
cazalla: BingoBoingo, that'd still look like i had bling done
BingoBoingo: Aesthetics can only put up so much of a fight against engineering
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you at least understand the toolchain with which you grapple.
cazalla: i don't wanna live in a world where i have to bling up my front teeth just to eat a peach without chipping a tooth
cazalla: i'd claim shoddy work but the crown this guy did, never had an issue
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You have to understand replacement material involve necessary compromise
cazalla: food needs to adjust to fit the way my teeth see the world BingoBoingo
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BingoBoingo: And yet USia's jailing class plagiarizes their German predecessors without attribution
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The gassing are not the plagiarism. The humane safety aspects are.
BingoBoingo: "No firearms in the zoo" was a very German reform
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BingoBoingo: "The inmates broke out of their housing structures and converged in the recreation yard, setting fire to several kevlar domes, or tents, that serve as prison housing, the paper said."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Plenty flame-abru in practice
BingoBoingo: Hydrocarbon and flourocarbon polymers break down into their more flamable constituents
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ben_vulpes: ahaha and then ruby ecosystem just falls over en masse without libreadline6-dev on the machine. no warnings at compile or until i go to actually run this hellspawn rails app
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know... sbcl is available nearly everywhere...
assbot: /hashtag/Kamailio?src=hash and /hashtag/LibreSSL?src=hash does not play together. Problems with CRYPTO_set_mem_functions
mircea_popescu: unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along. << there's something fundamentally naive about one imagining he can extract useful work out of an assemblage of idiots.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that site with the idiotic "from around the web" "weird tricks" etc spam
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mircea_popescu: re "100k/dose" : praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth. everyone'll just use the indian version and that's that.
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Adlai: "praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth." << easiest way to get accurate info on the internet is to spew nonsense and wait to be corrected? :P
Adlai lets the professional chemists weigh in, this is outside his pay grade
Adlai: that has zero relevance to ease of synthesis
mircea_popescu: what do you think happened in the past half century, chemistry got HARDER ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the jew thing : so ho got her man. rest of the "respectable" cunts, ineffectual as all "respectable" cunts.
cazalla: anyone else seen qntra as #2 on hackernews atm?
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mircea_popescu: "all the other guys were fucking her, I had to rape her a little too!!1 "
mircea_popescu: the fucking shrem defense. "i'm not an asshole, i just had to behave like one. but my real me is still intact! i'm a narcissist, my actions don't describe me!"
ben_vulpes: shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima. play with the feds: get exiled. exile yourself from the us, wither on the vine of unprofitability.
ben_vulpes: makes me wonder what those of us desperately milking the bezzle of what drops it yields will be castigated with.
mircea_popescu: shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima << who was this ?
ben_vulpes: some bitcointalk.org person who shuttered their own operation preemptively.
ben_vulpes: i am simply low on brain and reading comprehension this evening.
mircea_popescu: but if he comes back 18 months later as an expert witness on the shithead parade...
mircea_popescu: he's going to get asked a few hard questions. such as, "who the fuck is paying your bills."
ben_vulpes: (little, late and only with others' light)
mircea_popescu: went in without a plan. rather typical of the entirely fucktarded level of these people lately.
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have foreseen we'd get asked questions..."
ben_vulpes: while i'm up and it's quiet, what is the point of this new 'license' of yours?
ben_vulpes: on the face of it (and granted, i'm tired and slow), it seems this license would only ever prevent folks from using anything so licensed.
ben_vulpes: is it one of those "virulent" licenses? that nominally made things into which their licensed source was rolled also "open" source?
mircea_popescu: it just makes it impossible for fiat businesses to use any of our software.
ben_vulpes: more software. just what the world needs.
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punkman: asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing
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punkman: unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore << punkman occasionally does data-cleaning/dedupe/linkage/acquisition work for hire
punkman: BingoBoingo: cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity << better dentist also helps. I have a couple front teeth chips with the "natural" fillings, never had to replace.
cazalla: punkman, i've had the left front tooth done about 10 years back, that one has lasted, right one around the same time but it got chipped months back, bit pissed off this one has chipped so early but i gnaw bones and shit too so who knows
cazalla: ya don't love a good bone?
punkman: asciilifeform: picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre
punkman: cazalla, sure had a nice lamb roast yesterday.
punkman: today is octopus day, also known as Clean Monday
cazalla: i wish we could get good seafood here, a lot of it is shipped in from interstate or worse
punkman: mediterranean is fucked too, we have to import a lot of ocean fish
mats: 5:44:43 <+punkman> asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing <<
mats: has really awful withdrawals
punkman: (also nothing to do with vaccine)
punkman: mats, is it any better than methadone?
mats: its safer, but folks sometimes develop suicidal ideation after a few months
mats: and from all reports it seems thats preferable to beating withdrawal
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BingoBoingo: <mats> 5:44:43 <+punkman> asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing << Suboxone is not vaccine, merely partial agonist, does not trigger immune response
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punkman: " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."
☟︎ punkman: "Because the people have spoken, and while most of it was complete gibberish, numbers don't lie. People preferred 4.0, and 4.0 it shall be. Unless somebody can come up with a good argument against it."
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chetty: <punkman> " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."// its very simply a new sort of 'wall'
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PeterL: asciilifeform: RE stuff made in Africa: some of my clothes are made in sub-saharan africa
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Adlai: 3rd ¶ reeks of lamarckism
nubbins`: this TLP blog is fun to read but i feel like reading it makes me feel like i understand things better than i actually do
nubbins`: dota 5? /me cuts off dick, throws in trash
nubbins`: better middle lane than middling pain
nubbins`: oh, here's one about women wearing makeup
mircea_popescu: you know back before the world went nuts, my mother was in the maternity ward about to deliver me, as a 22 yo college grad.
nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less
nubbins`: "i'm taking a year to find myself"
nubbins`: "i'm doing __ for my gap year"
nubbins`: ^ why not just be honest to yourself ;/
mircea_popescu: it was fucking shameful then to not have a degree by 22.
mircea_popescu: anyway, my dad was 23 (army). and nofcuking body thought this is young.
mircea_popescu: everyone thought this is werdly late, but fucken intellectuals, nutty.
nubbins`: i'm not sure what romania was like in the late 70s but i feel like the average age of post-secondary graduation directly correlates to how soft things are in that place
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> cuz you liked teh woman, foo. << i see this coming
mircea_popescu: nubbins` let me put it this way : romania had mandatory universal male draft.
nubbins`: a lot can happen in 6 months in the armed forces
nubbins`: second-best korea still has this, btw
nubbins`: upside of this is that every korean male, at least ostensibly, earned a blackbelt in taekwondo
mircea_popescu: i don't believe it's a bad idea. if shiva tasked me with fixing west, it's one of the first things i'd do.
nubbins`: a universal draft would fix the west?
nubbins`: wasn't looking ahead far enough 8)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` 9 months with gunnery sargeant hartman, on the understanding that if you fail you get your balls chopped off and spend the rest of your life = the next few years chained to a wall in a brothel for arab fags.
nubbins`: once everyone's in the military, they gotta /do something/ with all these soldiers!
mircea_popescu: romania had universal draft for a century, never started a war.
nubbins`: romania was a different brand of retarded
nubbins`: you think if the american military suddenly is awash in bodies, they won't start sending them places for the sake of doing it?
mircea_popescu: but i think it's the one derived from old warcraft 2, except you get a single hero and no "resources" per se, get wood/gold to level them by killing npcs
Adlai: "paint rocks." << there's this idf saying: "if it moves, salute it; if it doesn't, pick it up; if you can't, paint it"
nubbins`: wood? sounds like die siedler von catan
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i meant "resources" as in warcraft2. whatever, vespene gas and the othe rone
danielpbarron: pretty much, except it was warcraft3 (some might say it started in starcraft as Aeon of Strife)
nubbins`: mircea_popescu you most certainly wouldn't. you'd have them fighting overseas!
nubbins`: i'm talking about the "you" that doesn't exist, but in this alternate world where you'd be ostensibly an american in charge of american troops
mircea_popescu: the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local
☟︎ mike_c: machiavelli would say that obama should go live there awhile.
mircea_popescu: hey, i wouldn't have any problem living with these dudes.
mike_c: he said when you conquer, the prince has got to go live there to make the locals happy. and it sounds right to me.
mircea_popescu: imagine, you sign up for the military, you get the guarantee that you'll be pushing shit uphill for a coupla decades, then when you're fortysomething you get a farm and an ethnic bride.
mircea_popescu: "army'll make men out of you. dead or alive - that's up to you."
mike_c: be all you can be was before army of one as far as i remember
mike_c: "army strong" is current
mircea_popescu: aww, they missed out on the obvious neuroticism ? "be all you can be. and more." ???
mircea_popescu: mike_c apparently reading comprehension on the downtrend huh ?
mircea_popescu: they're not even allowing those wisconsin and indiana poofters in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, that was calculated. what happened in 1945-49 ?
nubbins`: ^ my dad was married in his (canadian) coast guard uniform
mircea_popescu: all the kids that were 10 then musta noticed the flurry of panties
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what's that like, elk horn hat, maple syrup pants ?
nubbins`: double-button jacket w/ gold trim on the cuffs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, you could make some pretty epic uniforms for the drone flying division
nubbins`: well, looking like a slob was a lot less acceptable in the 50s-60s too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform traditional ru draft << plenty of derppathologies << yes. but they're pathologies rather than the fucking core.
thestringpuller: nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less << took me 7 years to get through GATech. Failed Calculus like 9 times.
mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! you can only target particular proteins, which coke is not.
mircea_popescu: how often would you say an us army / marine / etc fights within visual range of anything that'd even remotely qualify as an enemy ?
PeterL: creating immune response to small molecules would be hard to controll, you would just end up allergic to everything
mircea_popescu: such as i dunno, a bush an enemy pissed on sometime this week
mircea_popescu: PeterL fortunately body's smarter than you, won't take.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 13:00:01; punkman: " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."
mircea_popescu: "So far, the arguments against it seem to have been "major numebr
mircea_popescu: should go with a major new feature or breaking of compatibility",
mircea_popescu: which just shows how little people know. We don't break compatibility,
mircea_popescu: and we haven't done feature-based releases since basically forever."
nubbins`: asciilifeform so the cocaine sold in usa would now have to be 30-40% pure instead of 20%?
nubbins`: that's gonna hit the glucosamine suppliers where it hurts.
nubbins`: (phun phact, gym rats like coke and weighlifting supplements are invariably white powders)
mircea_popescu: i guess i will annoy everyone if i say i'm not particularly fond of coke ?
nubbins`: i like things way too much to justify trying it
nubbins`: besides, i definitely do not want to snort weightlifting supplements
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can confuse cocaine with anything else.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. they won't tell you this, but a good half of the captured stuff - on the street - is actually pure.
mircea_popescu: "dealers" doesn't mean what it used to mean 30 years ago.
mircea_popescu: people are so fucking poor now a bag qualifies you as a wholesaler.
nubbins`: someone who isn't me has witnessed dealers receive new shipment, open bag, set several spoonfuls aside for sef, then dump 8-10 tbsp of random white in there
nubbins`: if pure cocaine was sold here, people would overdose
mircea_popescu: otherwise you accidentally hit a 50% as if it were a 20% and bam
nubbins`: asciilifeform you don't need schooling to make crack
nubbins`: mircea_popescu pure being the only thing around is safest, sure.
nubbins`: but dealers care less about safe and more about $$
nubbins`: do you think that guy even googled "can you snort glucosamine" before cutting his stash?
nubbins`: because i know for a fact that he didn't
mircea_popescu: actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag and dumb ho hitting it as if it were the stuff she normally gets in clubs
nubbins`: mircea_popescu that was actually a bag of white heroin :D
nubbins`: hence her heart stopping, 3 stabs to chest, etc
nubbins`: ("no! you only stab her once!")
nubbins`: but for srs, people have heart attacks on coke all the time
nubbins`: asciilifeform: now imagine today's exercise/shit/dirt pile is at 100% (or even 80%) strength instead of 20%
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow.
nubbins`: this is why the purity of coke will not rise
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nubbins`: asciilifeform some of my favourite musicians died this way
nubbins`: bradley nowell, 1996, 7 days after marriage
nubbins`: opiate users can reach terrifically high levels of tolerance
nubbins`: to the point where a dose lethal in another man will maybe stop their headache.
nubbins`: anyway, worth noting that most recording musicians who tried heroin produced some of their best work while in the depths
mircea_popescu: anyway, clean gets you rid of all the stupid shit, anti worm medicine, drywall, w/e the fuck
nubbins`: reminds me of the time SWIM bought some adulterated marijuana
nubbins`: y'know how good dope has that covered-in-crystal look from all the resin-y trichomes?
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which... everyone i suppose is familiar with the otherworldly beauty of potassium permanganate ?
nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got as better question for you. why do us dumb broads not switch to cooking at home ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, its a recession" "learned how to cook yet ?" "wut?!?!?!"
nubbins`: that's what they're cooking at home these days
mircea_popescu: yeah but you two aren't really people. you're in here.
nubbins`: no krokodil here, too many prescription opiates to abuse
nubbins`: until they took oxycontin off the market
nubbins`: and all the addicts just vanished
mircea_popescu: is this krokodil thing actually as widely used as teh "horrors in russia" ussa press makes it sound /
nubbins`: opiates are definitely not a production-enhancer
nubbins`: mircea_popescu seems like meth in the usa -- cheap, so poor destitute people in poor destitute towns love it
nubbins`: there's a short Vice documentary on it, if you can stand to watch
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah i totally want to hear what vice has to say o.O
nubbins`: "now we add the eye drops" "why?" "makes it stronger"
nubbins`: "now we collapse a major vein in our arms"
nubbins`: anyway, as actually derpy as everything Vice produces is
nubbins`: the krokodil doc is gross enough to distract from it
nubbins`: asciilifeform definitely was not an ingredient in the reaction they were trying to make occur.
nubbins`: something along the lines of the "chili powder" meth in breaking bad
mircea_popescu: "So what the hell do we buy now? HP's quality has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig, Lenovo is doing their best to destroy the Thinkpad brand, Asus is incapable of making a device without at least one fatal flaw... is Apple the only one making laptops that aren't garbage anymroe?"
nubbins`: except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream
mircea_popescu: "what should i get for this weekend, meth or krok ?!~?!?!"
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream << Sometimes actually used in this manner
nubbins`: BingoBoingo :0 i guess the chili powder will work about as well as the eyedrops, then
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nubbins`: asciilifeform when i was in colombia, there was a byproduct called "bazouk" or similar
nubbins`: made from leavings of the coca process
nubbins`: colombia 7/10 would not revisit
PeterL: sometimes for o-chem reaction a 40% yield is a good day
nubbins`: betcha they use white flour with a handful of other grains mixed in
nubbins` adds wheat germ, crushed flax, hempseed, rolled oats to bread
nubbins`: and it costs 20% of what store-bought devitaminized bread does!
PeterL: on some multi-step reactions, think 50% yield 4 times, and you are lucky to have 6% of what you started with
PeterL: alot of what I was doing the past 3 years involved trying to get %yields higher
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (anybody else here take o-chem in school << originally, 9yo me despised ochem, because no great flames like sulphur | potassium chloride etc.
mircea_popescu: "Regarding the VCs, I would give them the benefit of the doubt as well. What where they pitched?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The list is all African countries.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, why does everyone want to indemnify the vcs ? they're absolutely the only guilty party in all this.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i have elementary knowledge of O-Chem. I love dat ATP Synthase (but who doesn't?)
BingoBoingo: The countries with the healthiest diets overall were: 1. Chad 2. Sierra Leone 3. Mali 4. Gambia 5. Uganda 6. Ghana 7. Ivory Coast 8. Senegal 9. Israel 10. Somalia
mircea_popescu: "The most reliable street test in my opinion is actually the smell of cocaine, as it has a very distinct aroma that none of the additives possess. Unfortunately, for reference, this requires you to have smelt a lot of different cocaine of certain purities, and very few people have had that opportunity. Personally, I think I could estimate cocaine purity from its scent and from looking at and tasting a few milligrams, b
mircea_popescu: ut I’ve also handled quite a lot of different batches with known purities."
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danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag << pulp fiction doesn't "revolve around" anything -- kinda the point
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow. << LOL i just did such a thing / felt like i was gonna have a heart attack :/
mircea_popescu: it's dangerous. cool temperatures favor clot formation
cjc: BingoBoingo, thanks for the !up
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thestringpuller: danielpbarron: re Pulp Fiction << revolves around that suitcase mainly, cept for "interlude of chick OD'ing"
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i still have nightmares about that butt rape scene.
thestringpuller: "Are you okay?" "Nah man." "I'm pretty fucking far from okay."
danielpbarron: Mr. About-to-spend-the-rest-of-his-short-life-in-agonizing-pain
danielpbarron: the suitcase doesn't have much to do with the fixed boxing match
danielpbarron: i suppose all the different plots relate to marcellus wallace
thestringpuller: yea that interlude is only connected after jules retires and delivers the suitcase
thestringpuller: Yea I mean Wallace gets butt raped after he retrieves the suitcase. If that has any significance...I dunno
thestringpuller: "does he look like a bitch", well zed fucked him like one. Zed's dead, but you know...
cjc: There is fixation with ass there... the story of the watch is another one.
mircea_popescu: yeah, pulp fiction revolves around tarantino's latent homosexuality.
cjc: One of the problems with the 90s was... when I bought Pulp Fiction as the first DVD I purchased ever... it was in letterbox format.
cjc: I had to wait several more years for it to be in high-def on home video.
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! << nuh uh I went to school and even paid attention sometimes!
mircea_popescu: well can you name any tropane alkaloid that has an immune response associated ?
mircea_popescu: by far the vast majority of immune response is to proteins. the difference is about two degrees of magnitude in molecular weight.
mircea_popescu: some immune response is to an assortment of polysaccharids etc, but still.
punkman: (one of the cocaine vaccines uses big cholera protein to deliver cocaine molecule)
assbot: Interception of Cocaine by Enzyme or Antibody Delivered with Viral Gene Transfer: A Novel Strategy for Preventing Relapse in Recovering Drug Users ... (
http://bit.ly/17r4Xtr )
punkman: nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline... << if only the retards came up with saline. I've read about some assholes using spray with glass beads (the kind used to make shiny road paint) that would penetrate the flowers.
mircea_popescu: "Since cocaine must dissociate from antibody before it can be metabolized, either in plasma or liver, such results seem surprising. " I'm willing to bet they misread the data, dun actually have a response at all, but hey.
pete_dushenski: "The Pirate Bay is bringing back moderators to delete spam accounts and fake Torrents" << agents finding new day jobs ?
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punkman: pete_dushenski: what would that get them?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87785 @ 0.00041664 = 36.5747 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: "Areva, the French nuclear technology giant, warned on Monday that it was facing a loss of a magnitude that raises doubts about its ability to continue operations without an injection of state funds to restore its capital. The state-controlled company expects a 2014 net loss of about 4.9 billion euros, or $5.6 billion, from a loss of €500 million a year earlier." << blame the japs!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00041988 = 3.8629 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: eu market got integrated, lot of excess capacity in the east, there it goes.
mircea_popescu: putin is hurting the west with cheap energy about 10x more than whatever "sanctions"
mircea_popescu: (france supported ro bid to eu chiefly because they needed ro heavy water).
pete_dushenski: my foggy memory of the romanian countryside is now clearning up..
mircea_popescu: (a lot more in summer due to hydro and less hydrocarbon usage for heating)
mircea_popescu: Would you like a MIRRORED COPY OF YOUR OWN DATABASE? FROM THAT ERA? WE HAVE IT DO YOU?
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: One of the lizards got drunk on the interent?
pete_dushenski: "DOJ - Do you have ANY IDEA - WHAT IS ON THAT TAPE ? DO YOU ? UNITED STATES ENDS ON 1 SINGLE 3/4 INCH TAPE. ENTIRE SOVEREIGN CURRENCY ENDS
pete_dushenski: "United States Department of State has YET TO FEEL THE WRATH OF THE LLAMACOIN "
mircea_popescu: "That's what it is. There's no such thing as "an idea", for damn sure."
mircea_popescu: "You can't have an idea. It's not a thing, not something to "have". It's not like a chocolate cake, you get your hands on it that's that, it's yours."
ascii_field: trying to reverse-engineer the theatrical props here
ascii_field: to see in what kind of studio the production was filmed.
mircea_popescu: he sounds like run of the mill overstimulated geek to me.
ascii_field: usually there are obvious technical gaffes
mircea_popescu: all the way down to "imagine all the people derping in harmonee"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yes but that's normal acid trip not technical gaffe
pete_dushenski: "Monsanto said Wednesday its earnings fell 34% in its first fiscal quarter" << fucken derps following cisco to the grave. such paper signers.
mircea_popescu: i skimmed. was curious more in the method of separating the two, if meaningfully applicable.
ascii_field: ELL ME - TELL ME - / TELL ME - TELL ME - TORN - MORNING / E4A966FF04DD296A41F5AAD497C64494 / THAT KEY should SCARE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF CIA / GO AHEAD - PUSH IT
ascii_field: iirc there was once support for 128b md5 fp
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ascii_field: it's 1500 again and clocks have one hand ?
BingoBoingo: Oh reddit disappeared, but didn't really delete a qntra link... again
mircea_popescu: programming, this time. clearly it's happening without the subreddit mod's knowledge, there's no overlap about bitcoin tards and programmers.
mircea_popescu: mind leaving a link to log on article discussing this for future ?
ascii_field: '...the Venture Capital Firms which made Superfish possible...' << lol! amerika where even spamware tr0j4n needs vc investment
ascii_field: can i get vc funding to sp4m l1k3 4 pr0? plz?
mircea_popescu: you gotta eat a lot of conference salty biscuit first.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16051 @ 0.0004202 = 6.7446 BTC [+]
assbot: "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... (
http://bit.ly/1DeNkIB )
ascii_field: 'cryptome' under extra-thick ddos today...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, now I'm more confused than ever
mircea_popescu: i just want a functional reference point tree for when this topic is discussed in future. currently, my go-to link for "reddit manipulation" is either the trilema or the qntrea article. it's beneficial if they somewhere (like in comments) have a link to a later case they didn't substantially cover
ascii_field: at 'hackernews' hand-twiddling the story ratings and outright burial ordered from above has been sop since day one. but the reddit cesspool has generally been left alone (other than by armies of muppets, electric and meat alike) until recently.
gribble: Current Blocks: 344843 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43058313524.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.76719
ascii_field: re: sata on netbsd: i get same effect (garbage read for drive manuf. name and lba max params on init) if plugging in sata drive on original uboot console
ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm)
☟︎ ascii_field: the original marvell-patched kernel mod is mega-gnarly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31185 @ 0.00042051 = 13.1136 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really
ascii_field: the whole 'shutdown' circus is wholly for show.
jurov: apple is such a whore with 214 root certs preinstalled?
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: But in fiat land with monthly bill payments, even a delay can be catastrophic to the stooge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00041893 = 4.1893 BTC [-]
ascii_field: jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans
NewLiberty: 'Jeh C. Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, said that it was “indulging in a fantasy to believe you can shut down the Department of Homeland Security and there be no impact to homeland security itself.”' Sure it might become more secure when the security theater show ends and people start taking personal responsibility.
ascii_field: deniability? sure, 'umm sorry taiwanese factory, umm, lost, signing key' a la stuxnet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00042123 = 6.5501 BTC [+]
jurov: cryptome is down.. are we the new slashdot?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really << check it out, usg trying to steal b-a.
ascii_field: and they don't clock in 'for the motherland' but to keep the job
wayne: what is this channel for? general btc discussion? the website is a big ambiguous.
mircea_popescu: generally you are expected to read the logs for the next year to get acclimated.
felipelalli: wayne: the rule here is: read the full log and back next year. We'll wait.
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chetty: don't worry if you miss a day, someone will point it out (happens to me all the time)
wayne: so everyone starts reading from april 26th?
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mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, anyone still remember the elizabeth smart thing ? "kidnapped" 14yo utah blondie goes to party with "kidnappers" etc ?
mircea_popescu: apud Ballas : "I know, I know, she's only 15-- terrified, Stockholm Syndrome, etc. And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her, I didn't live her life. Though that brings us back to the black teen: why is fear an acceptable explanation for poor judgment, but anger is not? (Hint: they're both not.)"
mircea_popescu: in point of fact you can readily distinguish the male dominated society from the female dominated society, because they each succumb to their own foibles.
mircea_popescu: in dudeland anger is accepted explanation, fear is not. in broadland, the reverse.
mircea_popescu: yes, they're both not. hasn't yet happened on god's green earth tho.
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punkman: wayne, good day to start is when voice requirement was introduced
punkman: also the search engine is great for finding interesting threads from the past
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chetty: And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her// the root of much evil in this world
mircea_popescu: i also have no right to calculate sun's orbit, as i'm no sun.
mircea_popescu: this is techniucally correct, i have NO RIGHT. nor do i wish to have such a right, fuck rights with a solder rifle.
mircea_popescu: i have the fucking freedom to do it, and im dying with it.
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plonky: just created new gpg keypair
plonky: and registered to gribble
mike_c: mircea_popescu: re your asshole post. I believe GOOG split in the meantime..
plonky: but anyway new nickname, as far as i lost my previous gpg key associated with hegemoOn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14667 @ 0.00041186 = 6.0408 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: plonky is not registered in WoT.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8783 @ 0.00042149 = 3.7019 BTC [+] {3}
plonky: 22:50:10 gribble | You are now authenticated for user plonky with key BACBCE400996EB88
danielpbarron: plonky, which bot responded to me when I typed '!gettrust' ?
plonky: seems the fingerprint of my key isnt satisfying assbot
mircea_popescu: mike_c hm, i remember them wanting to for years but then they got sued not to
mircea_popescu: never heard that being ruled on so i just asumed they dropped it.
mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00039447 = 7.5738 BTC [-]
gribble: Nick 'plonky', with hostmask 'plonky!~plonky@shell.netmonk.org', is identified as user 'plonky', with GPG key id BACBCE400996EB88, key fingerprint 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88, and bitcoin address None
plonky: !register plonky 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
mircea_popescu: try !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
plonky: !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key 0996EB88 / "netmonk <netmonk@netmonk.org>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
plonky: so pretty useless at the moment !
plonky: well, don't know :) i can ask fluffypony to rate me again :)
plonky: mircea_popescu: yes :)
plonky: you can find me on the archwiki
plonky: in the security team :)
plonky: and few commint on other topic
mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while, prolly can help with that
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 19:29:52; ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm)
danielpbarron: there is a bug in netbsd regarding sata drives that archlinux does not have
plonky: well, kernel are compiled and distributed as binary
plonky: as far you know on archlinux
plonky: but a mail on mailing list could help or /join #archlinux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14861 @ 0.00039443 = 5.8616 BTC [-]
bitstein: Assbot should have a reminder command.
assbot: /hashtag/blockchains?src=hash are a friggin database technology; 5 years down I doubt any users will care what the underlying network token is
plonky: i bet ascii_field is asciilifeform ?
gribble: You rated user hegemoon on Wed Jul 2 08:48:10 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: smooth PPEUR for XMR trade, no issues.
plonky: it was a time monero was meaning something :)
plonky: 170 euros, 200 monero iirc
fluffypony: ;;rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user plonky has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9536 @ 0.00039998 = 3.8142 BTC [+]
fluffypony: !rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account
fluffypony: (once the string has been decrypted I mean)
assbot: Need a decrypted verification string.
fluffypony: !v assbot:fluffypony.rate.plonky.1:2dc1b7ff690f2bd0c195b81db1a34d09eaefb5da684e8997ff0eaa8f861c0589
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for plonky with note: PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while << actually, we - or, rather me - have been trying to get it -off- arch
ascii_field schmuck occupied all day with PayingWork (tm)
plonky: this one is the answer
plonky: with all the patch included to kernel compilation in archlinux
ascii_field: plonky: do you know for certain that this is the very same arch as was published (see log) for use on 'pogo' ?
plonky: if you can explain what mean "for use on pogo", i would understand better :)
plonky: i better understand :)
plonky: so /join #archlinux-arm
plonky: ascii_field: which arm version ?
plonky: this is the pkgbuild of the kernel
ascii_field: plonky, others: it isn't just a question of 'which arm'
ascii_field: but specific system-on-chip that has all the peripherals
ascii_field: the ethernet, sata, usb, etc. are all on same die
plonky: ascii_field: ok look at my url, it point to the kernel config of kirkwood release !
ascii_field: will have to build and run the damn thing to be sure
ascii_field: if one of you folks with free time want to do this - appreciated.
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live << what was the detonation velocity ?
plonky switched from archlinux-arm to cubian on his cubieboard btw
ascii_field: plonky: ultimate goal is netbsd with maximally stripped down kernel and scarcely any userland at all beyond bitcoind
ascii_field: whole shebang should weigh a couple of MB gzipped.
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ben_vulpes: i can sorta read -assets logs backwards now
danielpbarron: i think i finally bricked a pogo; rebooted the one with the netconsole thing setup (which has worked in the past) and now i get nothing out of it :<
danielpbarron: "bricked" // i'll just use this one when my usb thingy arrives
plonky: ascii_field: lot of SATA reference in this patchfile
plonky: is it similar behaviour you have on netbsd ?
plonky: i mean stop of work after few minutes ?
plonky: and what does the netbsd guy say ?
ascii_field: and on second thought we don't have a 88sx7042 either
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plonky: yeah netbsd developpers, who are in charge of arm support
plonky: because it's easy to have a kernel booting and displaying lines in console
danielpbarron: plonky, do you know of any such people in the WoT?
plonky: but a bit harder to have a full hardware support
plonky: danielpbarron: not that i know
plonky: i mean, sending email to the right mailing list explaining your problem
plonky: can bring the official dev support
ascii_field: anyone's guess if he has the time, inclination, or this particular piece of hardware to even try
ascii_field: plonky: the one thing definitely known is that the bug is specific to this one particular marvell soc
plonky: one of my systema trainer once told me : if you don't ask, you will never get answer
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i thought your tool gave a number
mircea_popescu: plonky looky, the question here is whether you can be useful not whether he needs some advice.
ascii_field does not need to be told, usually, that 'it works better if you plug it in'
ascii_field: but to be fair: plonky found for me what i asked for
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13003 @ 0.00040388 = 5.2517 BTC [-] {2}
plonky: i will keep advice for myself, no offense.
BingoBoingo: plonky: It takes time to get to know what advice might be useful as opposed to being noise, that's what the reading is for.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23729 @ 0.00039355 = 9.3385 BTC [-] {3}
danielpbarron: i got my pogo to load asciilifeform's netbsd.ub over ftp, and it stops at "Starting kernel ..." // is this step supposed to get a long time?
ben_vulpes: i generally know the thing needs plugging in but frequently find myself unable to line up the right pins with the right sockets
ben_vulpes: end up ripping the fixture out of the wall and soldering things together.