trixisowned: just got banned for posting that in #bitcoin
nubbins`: i have about 50% success posting comments to trilema
mircea_popescu: what, is he reduced to shoe on head type of work now ?
dignork: and what's with the hammer?
nubbins`: i try to be as non-robotty as possible, but.. shrug
nubbins`: sometimes takes like 3-4 tries
dignork: nubbins`: are you running over tor?
nubbins`: i'd ask you how it identifies bots, but y'know
mircea_popescu: (bots don't load the page on the same pass as they fill the comments - they use spiders, like google)
mircea_popescu: and other than that, it looks that you took at least a few seconds to type your comment in
nubbins`: i do occasionally write up comments in a text editor & paste em in
nubbins` is an accidental enter-presser ;(
Flerb: So do I need OTC ratings to talk?
nubbins`: you need to be in assbot's trust network in order to voice yourself
gribble: Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Nick 'Flerb', with hostmask 'Flerb!~willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123', is not identified.
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mircea_popescu: Flerb i linked you above to the explanation. did you read it ?
mircea_popescu: so, yeah, you need ratings from the people that are in the magic list.
Flerb: But ratings surely are for trades?
nubbins`: this can be for trades, for back rubs, for business dealings, etc
Flerb: So I'll register with otc
assbot: Intel Outlines 14nm, Broadwell | EE Times
nubbins`: will do. let me know if you get more comment spam!
Flerb: Why is this necessary? Was there a lot of spam?
nubbins`: now if only you could get rid of the pingbacks ;D
RagnarDanneskjol: from what i understand, @ 16-14nm existing foundry tools just don't cut it (literally) to get any effective performance yield
decimation: yeah these features are ~30 Si atoms in size, not surprising that photo-lithography is failing
BingoBoingo: Architectures are about to get exotic again
mircea_popescu: it's the end of that accursed law, we can get back to humanity for a while.
mircea_popescu: then why does everything stop the moment it goes to background ?
decimation: the capability to shrink dies has far outstripped the capability to design logic to exploit the new possibility space
kakobrekla: this thing was introduced in the later models only ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so basically... it doesn't have multi-tasking.
decimation: I'm sure the hand of steve was in this
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> this thing was introduced in the later models only ? << This thing was introduced when they "introduced" "multi-tasking"
mircea_popescu: whgat the fuck am i going to do, run ipad gcc and make the app ask ?
mircea_popescu: various random games. i got a tablet to check out what's going on in that space.
mircea_popescu: turns out... everything downloads in a patch-needed state
BingoBoingo: I'd be interested in partnering with someone to startup S.MASH
mircea_popescu: and this leaving aside the problem that every shithead from vietnam to shangshitland is making the same dumbass 3 or 4 games, with the most ridiculous mechanics,
decimation: plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it (not that it would help without the app source)
mircea_popescu: but that notwithstanding, it's apparently impossible to get any of these aspiring "software houses" to even pick up the phone.
mircea_popescu: we've created a fine empire of cacophonic nonsense, i tell you. such victory of civilisation ;/
BingoBoingo: I imagine most of them can't afford phones
decimation: ascii do you have one of those huge sony e-ink readers?
decimation: yeah, sony was going to be paper sized
mircea_popescu: i literally was confronted with obviously the same one (stupid) thing, once with a scantily clad "mobster" girl, then later with a scantily clad "medieval fantasy" girl.
decimation: or bigger actually, I think they bailed on that business
BingoBoingo: The Sony readers were basically warez text only, it was great
assbot: Sony's 13-inch 'Digital Paper' is just like paper, except it costs $1,100
nubbins`: <+decimation> plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it << you have to tell apple why you want xcode?
decimation: nubbins`: at least in the past you had to get a developer account
nubbins`: you need a developer account to load apps onto your idevice, sure
nubbins`: xcode itself is just a general ide. totally free
decimation: yeah they don't charge you for xcode but you still need to sign up afaik
nubbins`: you could use it to build eulora for your mac if you wanted
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah if you want to actually ship your code, you have to submit your source to apple for approval
dignork: nubbins`: last time I tried, i had to root the phone and patch the xcode to avoid dev license
nubbins`: we're talking about two different things here
assbot: iphone - Does apple view the actual source code when approving apps? - Stack Overflow
nubbins`: yes, you need a developer account ($99) to install code to your ipad or iphone
nubbins`: no, you do not need anything except *maybe* an itunes account to download and use xcode
BingoBoingo: ;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 2 Thinks, enthusiastic
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nubbins` developed for ipad once as well
decimation: ;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer of many things
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nubbins` paid for ipad with sales from two apps :/
mircea_popescu: well if anyone knows any of these twerps that keep spitting out pointless, copycat ipad games,
decimation: asciilifeform: what did you think of objective C?
nubbins`: i actually know a brilliant objective-c programmer
decimation: yeah I would put them in the same category (c++ and objc)
nubbins`: he's been getting a lot of work doing interactive media displays for big corps and stuff lately
nubbins`: RagnarDanneskjol he probably is and you probably can't afford him
decimation: I never really understood why structs and function pointers weren't enough for someone to build all the "objects" they desired
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looks like it's baby brother doesn't it
decimation: I never understood why mcds doesn't replace their mouthbreathing employees with robots
mircea_popescu: "Your right to assembly is not being denied," the police said later over a loudspeaker.
assbot: Photo of reporter I believe to be /ryanjreilly being cuffed and put in a police van minutes ago in /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash
http://t.co/l6olRUPk13 decimation: are you talking about the sector dish on the white pole?
BingoBoingo: Well, sunset is soon enough, that seems to be when tear gas goes on
BingoBoingo: decimation: Mounted on the roof on rightmost vehicle
mircea_popescu: i guess it's a great time to be an reenaction armorsmith
mircea_popescu: pretty much all this expensive high tech crap dies a hoirrible death if confronted with chain mail.
assbot: Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform raytheon has been trying to prop up th emegahole in its balncesheet by selling a mini version to fed backed usg agencies.
decimation: re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds
assbot: Munson: Heavy-duty military equipment given to police
decimation: "Washington's MRAP, valued at $733,000, was as "free" to the city as a diesel monster with a 74-gallon gas tank that guzzles down the road at 5 miles per gallon can be."
BingoBoingo: decimation> re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds << Still better than touching the antenna...
decimation: I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free"
BingoBoingo keeps telling himself Mexico is only a 30 day walk away
decimation: I just at a few raw figs, they were delicious
assbot: RF protective garments or suits are described.
decimation: made for folks who work on live broadcast antennae
dignork: decimation: love their warning: "If your ankles feel warm, something is wrong!"
decimation: lol yeah you would have to pay me a fair amount of cash to get me to climb a tower in that suit in front of a live high-power transmit antenna
assbot: mossmann/hackrf GitHub
dignork: RagnarDanneskjol: it's on preorder :(
decimation: yeah, those are neat, except the most interesting part is the fact that you can capture a decent band
decimation: what are you going to do with the band, once you have it?
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: You really aren't playing with RF until you are measuring power in at least tens of watts
BingoBoingo: Ah, I'm more familiar with DX'ing as a sport
BingoBoingo: How far can you get on X power budget in Y Band?
decimation: I guess it goes down to 10 mhz so you could do HF
decimation: I strongly suspect you would need additional filtering if you were to use one in a 'civilized' manner
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nothing about Radio is civilized
decimation: BingoBoingo: are you referring to conversations on 80 meters?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Oh, its always the same story from 2-160 meters
dignork: RagnarDanneskjol: yeah, but check the titon's reply :)
decimation: yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams
BingoBoingo: decimation: You can do internet protocol over Ham
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah I'm aware, but I was wondering if someone had a live gateway somewhere
assbot: Tutorials: GNU Radio for beginners | Dangerous Prototypes
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free" << love will find a way.
decimation: I love this distinction between proper police who serve the king, the local baron's agents, and the "democratic police". I'm going to use the phrase more often.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams << like what, 19/f/cali accidentally on the transmission ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That could be a charity, 19 year old Cali girls on 10 meters
BingoBoingo: If the US cared about diplomacy this could replace Voice of America entirely
decimation: no the median ham is a ossified 50-70 year old male who rarely has anything interesting to say
mircea_popescu: now that's an idea, i wonder how the iraq/afghan wars would have went if instead of 2-500k gay boys eager to play videogames
mircea_popescu: the us war dept just enlisted 2-500k eager valley sluts and packed them off.
decimation: well, they would be alternately raped and stoned to death I would suspect
mircea_popescu: i tell you, when i am tyrant this is how my tyranyship will be fighting wars.
decimation: unless one of them was a daughter who embarrassed his father?
mircea_popescu: "you piss us off we're sending the girls over your place."
decimation: well I certainly agree that there would be fewer causalties, given that iraq is safer for said video-game boi than the US, but quite deadly for the average iraqi
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BingoBoingo: Local TV channels still on "regularly scheduled programming" guess that is a sign of something
decimation: mike_c: it helps if you hit the "zoom in" on waterfall view
decimation: mike_c: there's a guy talking on 7125 khz (set LSB mode)
assbot: International Call Sign Series
mbr9200: Hey, what's this channel mostly about?
BingoBoingo: mbr9200: Various Bitcoin things, paranoia, nekkid ladies
decimation: assbot is a robot that manages channel moderation
BingoBoingo: mbr9200: Assbot is a bot, gifted to us by kakobrekla in his trememdous benevolence
BingoBoingo: mbr9200: Up is what lends you voice in 30 minute intervals
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That could have been a new one.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The url the sends them here names them
mbr9200: Oh, cool. A cofounder and I came up with a very interesting altcoin idea. I wrote the white papers for it, got a web dev guy, just looking for a coin dev if anyone is able. I also appreciate the large number of people on this chat, good stuff.
mircea_popescu: this theory that redditards have like... different personalities. what do you people do in the intimacy of your own house, name goldfish ?
☟︎ mbr9200: i had a goldfish once, it jumped out of its bowl
mircea_popescu: mbr9200 the only guy here that made his own coin before would be thickasthieves.
gribble: thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <thickasthieves> who uses a ripped condom tho?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I drank with a toad I found in the back yard yesterday...
ben_vulpes: i met a guy today who's doing supercap batteries
ben_vulpes: but miniaturized, and gate-switched for power output.
ben_vulpes: er, power distribution i think may be the correct term?
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Apparently they can't hold their liquor either, he croaked...
decimation: ben_vulpes: are you referring to the kickstarter project for the supercap batteries?
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RagnarDanneskjol: @ mrb9200 - pls email me a job order to admin@bitrecruiter.com - I locate developers for this sort of thing. most of them are scoundrels & losers just fyi
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I suspect they use those suits for vhf/uhf tv and cellular, and even then they probably don't stand in front of live transmitter
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decimation: ben_vulpes: this plane uses said supercaps?
ben_vulpes: the plane exhibited has only been flown with lithiums.
ben_vulpes: but the capacitative (sp?) plane should be doing demo flights ca. 2016.
decimation: I think the best supercaps are lithium chemistry
ben_vulpes: plain old capacitative modules, fabbed into chips.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit. << it only works if continuous, for one.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol can you locate one of these azn ipad developers making shitty games ? or is it like the spammers, by the time their handiwork is seen they're long married/drafted/gone
BingoBoingo: trixisowned: Say waht you will, but black America is probably that last "Real America"
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - sure, those guys are dime a dozen. I can find almost any spec you throw at me - the more detailed & complex the better. Its kind of nice cause I work in a female dominated industry (HR) so I tend to gravitate all the jobs noone else can fill
decimation: I wonder if this will lead to a cleavage between the poor brown power base of the elites who run the inner party?
decimation: yeah but streaming video on ustream isn't exactly hiding evidence...
decimation: plus I'm certain that sighting such a gadget flying around would be a pretext to crack down on something else
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decimation: yeah that must be high frequency chirps just heard
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decimation: looks like they've started to hand out free cs gas
assbot: Washington Post, Huffington Post reporters say they were arrested while covering Ferguson protests : News
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> they always burn... their own streets. << The one thing "Occupy" seemed to make an earnest effort to correct
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeah, they were light on the burning and trashing
assbot: I am Mike Brown Live from Ferguson, MO on Livestream
decimation: this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> heavy on the marx and engels << their names, but not ideas in any informed way, walked into local encampement at the time, no one wanted to debate hegel
decimation: BingoBoingo: that would be amusing to watch (hegel debate) "Hegel who?"
BingoBoingo: decimation: Local at the time "Occupy" camp was on the way back to my apartment walking from place that served 44 oz booze slushies
BingoBoingo: Wasn't the worst place to pick up girls from though
decimation: yeah the wto protests about 10 years ago in DC were more lively
BingoBoingo: Once I even held a sign on the street corner for a while said "RUF is for the People" and none of the other people had a concrete idea of what RUF was or where they operated...
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should have brought a machete to demonstrate?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> heavy on the marx and engels
assbot: Revolutionary United Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: there's also the bum who protests something nuclear camped in front of the white house
decimation: since DC is run by aging hippies, that's how they like it
decimation: I haven't been around in awhile, could be the case
decimation: this Ferguson thing is trying to be a theater but no one knows the script
RagnarDanneskjol: speaking of - I've been on that Jason guy to commit to timeframe - sounds wishywashy so I'm gonna find a few backups and just send them the log so you dont have to repeat everything
assbot: Gotta love that negro speak pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: "The entrepreneurial spirit is not dead. For it ain’t ever dyin’, that’s why. And also fuck you, Mr. Obama, because if he paints that forest he motherfucking made that forest. (If he eats those pizzas he even more fucking definitely made that forest. It needs dung you know ?)"
BingoBoingo: ^ Quote from the most underrated English Trilema article
BingoBoingo: "Not everyone’s an entrepreneur, either. Some kids, poor kids, “urban” kids are scholars, in nucet. They may not have my rare and expensive equipment, sure. But whether the BBC does manage to agree that climate pseudo-science should be promoted as “the only alternative” or not, my hopes rest with a bunch of inner city negroes. No matter what, these kids will still carry through the world the ability to reason, and that
BingoBoingo: ’s quite good enough for me. Fuck the instruments, as great as they are : they’ll make their own, and it’ll be the same anyway, because there’s exactly one way to make a great piece of lab equipment. The alternatives are only there to confound the issues. See, teh BBC got it right after all >D"
mircea_popescu: <trixisowned> wow wtf they are firing on the houses << lol famous last words
mircea_popescu: <decimation> this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'occupy' - sucked << that's because they don;'t know how to protest.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <decimation> this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest. << Vexual seems to
assbot: Cum se protesteaza corect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o hey, i was reading the quotes and went who the fuck is this, scary smart.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: lol, there's a read between the lines situation in posting those now
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assbot: Twitter / mattdpearce: I just called Ferguson police ...
BingoBoingo: I just called Ferguson police chief to ask about @WesleyLowery and @ryanjreilly, told him what I knew. His response: "Oh, God."
assbot: Twitter / john_dingell: Staff has now informed me of ...
BingoBoingo: Staff has now informed me of what a Kardashian is. I'm only left with more questions.
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: It's cool you have voice now. What is dreamstring?
dpb_reddit: How would I go about changing my nick/signing up?
assbot: Post's Lowery detained in Ferguson - The Washington Post
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BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Which post in particular brought you here?
assbot: [HIRING] Developers for Serious Bitcoin Startup : Jobs4Bitcoins
dpb_reddit: only cause i am starting my own bitcoin related company
dpb_reddit: looking for devs to move through seed round
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: At least you haven't wished "Best candida" on us yet like one of your predecessors with that name did.
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Well, since someone linked you instructions...
assbot: Police use tear gas to break up Ferguson crowd
BingoBoingo: Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas.
decimation: I would like to know how the democratic police think that distributing cs gas randomly around the town is going to effective at accomplishing anything
trixisowned: The police are now retreating near the QuickTrip as sounds of gun shots fill the air. I'm not sure what is coming but police are screaming
assbot: dpb_reddit +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: Al-Jazeera runs from teargas in Ferguson - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1185 @ 0.0006328 = 0.7499 BTC [-] {2}
dreamstring: While I have a voice, I'd like to put out for any developers interested in a possible position in a start up based around creating a mobile mining oriented cryptocurrency. The company is the Dreamstring platform, aiming to create a crypto that distributes supply and time using the fibonacci, as well as creating an equal distribution to each cellular phone user to download the mobile application.
dreamstring: The app aims to distribute the currency to each person to download the free app equally, as well as offer different teirs/levels of accounts for shopping, buying/selling, and trading goods and services.
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: nah, the red stuff is whale shit, not menstral painting
dreamstring: damn man im all about that shark week but idk what this is getting at
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: Well, what makes "mobile mining" special and desirable?
dreamstring: Nothing besides the fact that by using a PoW/PoS hybrid you can group people into different teir groups based on their cell phones to make sure everyone is getting the same distribution of the currency.
dreamstring: in theory the hashrate doesnt mean anything besides securing from a 51% and determining who contributed what amount of work
BingoBoingo: And what does that offer anyone who has money that could give such a currency value?
dreamstring: but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against
dreamstring: and a global decentralized trading platform on every phone through a centralized security outlet
dreamstring: introduce peolpe in india/kenya/africa that use MPESA rn
BingoBoingo: <dreamstring> but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against << Who said this is a part of Bitcoin, Bitcoin fights the stupid getting richer...
dreamstring: in the sense that those with money can afford more asics can afford to make more
dreamstring: this allows everyone to start off on an even note
dreamstring: and then based on how you use your money that you are distributed, well the smart use it well/open their own stores on the market, the poor just get paid for having a phone
BingoBoingo: What about people with money who don't want "smart" phones?
BingoBoingo: And what about people who make VM farms spoofing millions of "mobile devices?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe you were right about voicing the reddit referrals...
dreamstring: people who dont want smart phones are living in the past, why should the btc community care about them anyway, and the VM farming i already created a verifciation system that needs a hardware id and device verification to use
dreamstring: im not trying to argue, i think i have a very valid plan of attack
dreamstring: and was there something i left unanswered?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> are you here to learn? << This dreamstring
dreamstring: the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world.
BingoBoingo: <dreamstring> the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world. << I haven't had one in years
kakobrekla: up him if you intend to have a convo btw.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I tried but he seemed more interested in polishing bullet points.
kakobrekla: i guess the real question is - they have a logo yet?
BingoBoingo: ;;google dreamstrings mobile mined shitcoin
mike_c: did somebody hang a sign somewhere saying b-a is looking for work?
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dreamstring: Alright im ready to have my ass handed to me
dreamstring: im on the defense on you shooting down the altcoin
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: Just admit you were woefully under prepared and you are gong to actually read.
dreamstring: Oh that was a sad sad attempt at what I thought would be a two second plug
dreamstring: I'll be much more willing to discuss the details of what i have planned once i know how this place operates though, thanks.
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: I'm kind of expecting that if you read you can have a few thousand words on why it was broken
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: blogs and bash are a quicker primer, logs take a while
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas. <<< candida, actually :D
dreamstring: word, thanks for the reads. Im gonna cash out for the night while i delve into some of theses. thanks guys.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which part is the record in this case?
mike_c: ;;calc (199609 / [ticker --last]) - 314.6
mike_c: woohoo warren. running like a man in his 70's.
mike_c: he's killing it. we'll see if he can keep it up.
mike_c: he hadn't heard about the bet yet
mircea_popescu: anyway, remember all the knowitalls that explained how unfair a bet it was, right then ? because OBIVOUSLY etc.
mike_c: ^ the story of all interesting bitbets
mircea_popescu: peepz just got this irresistible impulse to believe they know shit.
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mike_c: I saw :) i disagree with a couple points, but a counter-rebuttal.. too meta
mike_c: mencken has some interesting quotes, doesn't he.
TheNewDeal: love how many dumbasses / psuedonyms thermos exposed to back himself
mike_c: lol fluffypony. you don't get to accept! assbot rates who assbot wants.
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mike_c: i was too lazy to look. did anybody get kicked out of assbot L1?
mike_c: ah. 30 people right now. i wonder what the right # is.
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TheNewDeal: bitcoin is not against rich getting richer
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ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> make a connection. <<
http://survantjames.com does objective-c whatever, provided you're willing to pay fiat objective-c rates for people who actually know what they're doing.
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nope. i'm willing to pay a pittance to take over code already written and not making a penny.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Prolly between 2 and 78 << hopefully 200ish
BingoBoingo: Oh, I went from having under 10k Meat in merchandise in my mall store to...
BingoBoingo: Approaching 50% of danielpbarron's marketcap for his BTC/MEAT asset in just shit from years ago
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - I have my bot dev on the other line - he is reading the logs right now. This guy runs the bot for my room. lemme know if you're around to chat it up w/ him
MolokoDeck: so, I'm still reviewing the bitcoin-assets log related to a bot project involving posting and cryptosigning cryptodocuments.. or something to that effect.
MolokoDeck: ok. so it handles both pre-encrypted and plaintext documents.
MolokoDeck: authentication test from a single-point trusted registry.
MolokoDeck: insertion of validation hash onto the bitcoin block chain with a transaction: requires use of the bitcoind API or connection to the bitcoin mining network.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu I like LastPass, actually :)
MolokoDeck: also requires the bot to have a wallet.
RagnarDanneskjol: and not necessarily running bitcoind / wallet. i will let mircea elaborate
MolokoDeck: "2. all the valid deeds received in a specified interval, say 512 seconds, are appended together, hashed, and the resulting hash is inserted into a bitcoin transaction, which becomes part of the bitcoin blocchain."
MolokoDeck: only the validating hash goes on the blockchain, not the entire block of documents, I take it?
MolokoDeck: the bot has to buffer state and monitor for validations, which could take tens of minutes, then inform the irc channel, and update the central web logs for public notice.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu you're trying to create some new bot? what purpose?
MolokoDeck: automated contract notarization I would think.
MolokoDeck: or something entirely general purpose.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu you know I am lazy. :(
MolokoDeck: the block of documents gets cryptosigned with a hash of the documents inside. That hash gets sent to the blockchain. The other validation (initial validation) is of the cryptosignature on each document. The documents have to be legit before they go into the bundle that get's logged and recorded permenently as a hash on the blockchain.
MolokoDeck: the blockchain is being used to make an immutable public record of the authenticating hash of the document bundle being published.
MolokoDeck: since the hash is inserted as a comment in the blockchain, I think one might be able to create bogus blocks that have the same has by inserting a salt and mining a single hash here.
MolokoDeck: you can't change the hash, but you could make any block match the hash, possibly, if you had enough mining time.
MolokoDeck: it wouldn't be on the central trusted registry though, but that may not be entirely secure. or someone would have to check an document the recieved by another channel against the central registry or website.
BigBitz: the nonce, at best, you could influence.
BigBitz: the block hash you cannot influence (AFAIK)
MolokoDeck: right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash.
BigBitz: heh, I may be clueless, but I don't think a miner can influence the hash value of the clock.
MolokoDeck: oh nevermind. It would have to match the ENTIRE hash. megayears. ok. i get it.
BigBitz: If they had some quantums, maybe :P
MolokoDeck: I'm not sure there's a quantum algorith for SHA256 that's particularly leveraged, but there are supposedly turing-complete quantum gate computers that could accellerate that. Let's not go into that.
MolokoDeck: those don't exist yet at any meaningful scale.
BingoBoingo: lol, There was an optical computing conversation this week...
MolokoDeck: whatever happened to that optical matrix multiplcation chip?
mircea_popescu: <MolokoDeck> right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash. << the nonce isn't actually large enough
BingoBoingo: I just met you, this is crazy. Here's my weiner. So blow me baby.
MolokoDeck: doable in php or python. php has a fairly bad reputation in cryptocurrency lately. And in computer science for different reasons (you can't predict the outcome of certain operations).
mircea_popescu: you'd need a nonce as large as the keyspace of the hash
MolokoDeck: also in php one would either have to use a package or use system calls to do the encryption.
MolokoDeck: I was wondering about that. I'm not clear on how much influence a nonce has on hash outcomes. so that explains that question.
BigBitz: none is only 32 bit field.
BigBitz: nonce. man. my typing is getting bad in my older years.
MolokoDeck: I was considering just adding an arbirary number of bits to the bogus message.
MolokoDeck: anyway, I think you've settled my question about the feasibility/non-feasibility of spoofing a single hash.
MolokoDeck: the security of the bot sending something via bitcoin api ... still thinking about that.
MolokoDeck: is this for everyone in the world to use, or only for a select community of presumable trusted parties?
MolokoDeck: obviously they'd have to be registered with wot.
BingoBoingo: MolokoDeck: If you have a good source of entropy for nonces, electrum has a nice CLI, this thing prolly ought to be connected to a private electrum server though if going for that over bitcoind
MolokoDeck: looking at a case where anyone can put a hash on the blockchain and present a document block with that hash.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck to validate a hash has to be signed by someone in assbot's l2
MolokoDeck: sure, a non-mining/non-blockchain-manitaining client.
MolokoDeck: ok. not sure what my timeframe to completion on this would be presuming I would be doing it. My development resources are limited right now (one virtual host)
MolokoDeck: ok. my feeling about it now is doable. timescale more than a few weeks, adjustment of code until everyone's satsified, then some committment to maintain or modify it if desirable.
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October"
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BigBitz: which market does that use, mircea_popescu?
BigBitz stops being lazy and looks.
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RagnarDanneskjol: Molo, please try to work on it some this weekend... I am actively recruiting until it gets done- first to finish line wins
MolokoDeck: testing the bottom at 480-whatever seems reasonable.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
MolokoDeck: ok, I'm not a big fan of races and bounties, but understood.
mircea_popescu: srsly, it's not a huge rush, it's been waiting for the proper maker/maintainer for monthgs,.
MolokoDeck: I'll stay in touch with ragnar about this.
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RagnarDanneskjol: taken to King County Jail for investigation of robbery as well as for allegedly possessing three grams of crack
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xmj: this is how you make yourself EUR 80 bln richer, overnight: just include black market transactions in government GDP.
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jurov: almost every time i do something with hardware, there is blood
pankkake: :o never got to that point, though I often hurt
RagnarDanneskjol: I'm on the other end, everytime I do something with software, there is blood and gnashing of teeth
jurov: unless you still use CRTs you must be pretty feeble creatures
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes, I still rock a CRT 2nd screen for nostalgia & to help accelerate global warming
chetty: Duffer1, ouch, wb, get well
chetty: cool, grats wyrdmantis
gribble: punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <punkman> you wash some of your own btc, jerk some puppets, the muppets won't be able to resist
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wyrdmantis: so this bitcoin empire we must obey :)
wyrdmantis: "I see manipulation" <<<--- seems legit
wyrdmantis: seems that i have to learn doing something useful for the WoT. I think what i know is not enough. I'm thinking to open a blog in Italian about my first steps in b-a, so people in italy can understand what is happening. Do you think it's a good idea?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1158 @ 0.00175135 = 2.0281 BTC [-] {7}
chetty: blogs are always a good idea
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis well, maybe, but if them people don't speak english they'll have a hard time understanding.
assbot: Icbit.se, the bucket shop pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu yeah it will be just a translation service
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu pizza spaghetti & mandolino!
RagnarDanneskjol: Does anyone know how to buy btc on the street in china? resources/directories, etc
wyrdmantis: RagnarDanneskjol no sorry, but would be interesting to know
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - Im sure they have some go-to network that most folks use - All i know of is Bobby Lee. I have a client who needs to pay me a retainer and they are new to all this so need to figure it out for them, show them the ropes, but I got no clue
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wyrdmantis: RagnarDanneskjol can't they buy bitcoins on OKcoin?
RagnarDanneskjol: Sure, but I think there are approval times, limits, etc. They want to send me a large retainer fee [10k] like yesterday, and I want to have them to learn it the right way
assbot: ClubOrlov: Permission to Steal Everything
wyrdmantis: intersting blog, yes, thanks asciilifeform
wywialm: asciilifeform, Orlov seems to be one of the best informed people I read on the Ukrainian affair
wywialm: especially with regard to details
wywialm: on the other hand, he sometimes is pretty one-sided
wyrdmantis: i cant form an opinion but his version sounds more accurate
wyrdmantis: media here in italy are superficial and manipulated
wywialm: true, yet the russian media also add a lot of propaganda and russian population seems to be much more susceptible
wyrdmantis: asciilifeform are you referring to the immigration problem in europe?
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nubbins`: ^ he shoulda just called this album "totally not on coke", amirite?!?!
jurov: asciilifeform are there ingredients that enable it, like religion/language?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.30297465 = 1.8178 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: well, who'll help the muricans develop their languages?
jurov: you'll certainly find some foreign entity to blame in hindsight, ofc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.32896566 = 16.4483 BTC [+] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1300 @ 0.00316671 = 4.1167 BTC [+] {11}
wywialm: asciilifeform, what countries do you suspect of being first in the line, apart from baltic & ukraine, as they barely can be classified as 'the west'
wywialm: yeah, that would be a good shot, a independence + rather leftist political climate
wywialm: but it is relatively off-center. the continental Europe is still very centralist, Russia does not have strength to penetrate it
wywialm: Poland is on the frontier, but any pro-regional tendencies are almost nonexistent. moreover it is a very hard nation to administer and russians when they were stronger did not risk running it on their own
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dignork: TomServo: main point if this article, gpg is not friendly enough for the masses. People running running windows, using facebook, posting photos of the ir credit cards on twitter.
pankkake: I follow this blog, but that article was pretty weak
pankkake: you'll never remove the learning curve of security, or you'll just provide bad security
pankkake: and then "the defaults suck" well, ok, but why reinvent the wheel instead of changing them?
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pete_dushenski: @cryptoweather: @pete_dushenski that's some bizarre ass language.
[]bot: Bet placed: 8 BTC for No on "S.MG above 2x par on October 1st, 2014"
http://bitbet.us/bet/791/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.24992437 BTC. Current weight: 23,853.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 10.62588912 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 924 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76657328 BTC to 13`862 shares, 12744 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 3.31314540 BTC to 162`012 shares, 2045 satoshi per share
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2001 @ 0.00166775 = 3.3372 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1000 @ 0.00061999 = 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 184 @ 0.006 = 1.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9469 @ 0.00005299 = 0.5018 BTC [+]
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BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Seems like it now, but... Still a few months left
ben_vulpes: punkman: are you active on the forums? would you post a link to
punkman: ben_vulpes: no I don't forum
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 336 @ 0.001685 = 0.5662 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: the third or fourth time. i think i get the message now.
BingoBoingo: I think kako_Number_5 will stick on the forum
kakobrekla: not worth it, my handles dont last 5 posts.
TomServo: Could someone fill in the blanks for me on how the connection between ninjashogun and usg was made? Sounds like an average scammer to me.
TomServo: asciilifeform: I think I've read that twice now... I must be too dense to see the connection?
TomServo: Or just the fact he was suggesting to cripple the cardano?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 787 @ 0.0028001 = 2.2037 BTC [-]
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HeySteve: KMac, scholarly troll extraordinaire
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HeySteve: kdomanski I remember an MP article on that stuff, conclusion being that a unique address is better
kdomanski: it's sweet how they linked to a "research article"
kdomanski: "you gotta but this! science says you do!"
HeySteve: yeah I wouldn't pay those domain squatters, they're like lazy thieves
HeySteve: I believe they pre-register a lot of commercially desirable names, like for medicines, vehicles and probably other stuff
kdomanski__: HeySteve: I read an article once about registrars who preemtively register domains that people check for availability
assbot: Bitfinex: cascading margin calls resulting in flash crash - MATLAB TRADING
dignork: probably confusing cause an effect
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atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 221 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 187555.13 in 1982 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.01
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looks like the not unknown post dump standoff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
gribble: Current Blocks: 315642 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 869 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23610240555.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.66885
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 221 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 187555.13 in 1982 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.01
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.09 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1613.00 GH/s
mircea_popescu: so 0.00000464 or 464 satoshi per atc at current diff, 46 satoshi per atc at next diff.
BingoBoingo: It's amazing really that the stuff trades in the middle of those two extremes
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assbot: A travel agent just gave me back my money and said that he didnt feel comfortable with booking my flight. No federal interference here!
pete_dushenski: "Try to see it from a police officer’s point of view: You may be unarmed, but you’re also black"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo tell him it's probably someone who had invested in his failed keiser-led kickstarter clone thing.
BingoBoingo: lol, I'll let him wonder. Some lessons sting more with a few years of hindsight.
mircea_popescu: good to have for when he finally capitulates, 2020 or w/e.
mircea_popescu: ima just go !s "you're a famous failure nao, bitch. deal with it." and all the greybeards will chuckle privately.
mircea_popescu: que "i'm such a jerk, and history coming to bite one in the ass is so unfair, and what sort of usg democracy is this where responsibility exists!!1"
mircea_popescu: they were promised irresponsibility without consequence and a shot at megaupside, DANG IT!!!!
mircea_popescu: free lottery tickets and billion dolar jackpots, that's what the american dream is all about!
mircea_popescu: right. so whoever's doing the hopping thing makes about 1k every 4k blocks, which works out to about... 20 weeks or so ?
mircea_popescu: this is less than unemployment benefits, by almost a degree of magnitude.
mircea_popescu: it never ceases to amaze me how cheap people will work for just as long as they're free, or in reverse, how fucking insanely much tyranny has to pay its drone worker.
mircea_popescu: in other news, turns out laurina is a major brand on birth control pills.
chetty: well how much would you want to be paid to do drone work?
mircea_popescu: in romanian it sounds like it were "Piss's", if Piss were a restaurant or something
mircea_popescu: "What is your best asset and why? I’m very playful and easy to have fun with."
mircea_popescu: "How are you going to stand out from the other Bachelorettes? Be myself."
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol had you reg'd with a gpg address like respectable folk i would now have everything I need to send you an email. wtf am i going to do with a bitcoin address ?
los_pantalones: mircea_popescu, i think we are going to trade some ether with you
los_pantalones: i have to work out the details on our side but i wanted to check you first
mircea_popescu: if you're not going to go into some version of "but why do i have to actually take some risk on, isn't this one of those deals where people just get free resources for being people, like from the government ?"
mircea_popescu: i made a model, it's been linked a few times, lemme find it
justusranvier: I heard a theory about Ethereum which I'm not sure has been floated here before.
justusranvier: The theory is it's a laundring operation of the exact form use by politial campain fundraising
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Future Delivery Contract Fo - Pastebin.com
justusranvier: The Ether "investors" are the same vendors who are going be paid using the received Bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: but just as long as there's a clear delineation of risk, and you undertake the risk of ethereum not going anywhere, we can prolly hammer something out
mircea_popescu: justusranvier didja see you got baronized meanwhile btw ?
justusranvier: I did. Thanks. Do I get a castle or something now? Vassals?
mircea_popescu: justusranvier well you get the ability to permavoice ppls.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones that 30 something btc would not only be the biggest anyone's entertained yet,
mircea_popescu: but it would actually exceed the sum total of ~20 or so different parties.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones well no point in signing it, seeing how it doesn't have your name on it and its past its own expiration clause
los_pantalones: no, i signed your gpg outside of this, got the company i'm working with to start to come around on the idea of everyone having one
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe next time they open the books, a baron is you :D
mircea_popescu: you know this multisig thing is tempting conceptually, much like multi addresses seem the only way to go.
mircea_popescu: however, in practice, one quickly discovers that value accumulates, and a signature or a btc address is more like a domain name than even a domain name.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz i didn't mean the power ranger derpage. i just meant, one having multiple gpg signatures.
los_pantalones: i have a personal one, attached to my activities outside of work
mircea_popescu: maybe that's the right way to go and i'm just seeing the particular effects of my very peculiar personality, where i have no problem receiving slut selfies on office@
los_pantalones: i don't technically own the trust i earn working for this company
mircea_popescu: the very point of personal sovereignity is that you do, not they.
shovel_boss: why do i get voice but not the other 200 peoples
los_pantalones: yes yes, but when i'm acting on their behalf am i acting as a sovereign entity?
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones in the immortal words of pappy, "and on this issue there can be no debate"
los_pantalones: ok well there are very well defined IP ownership clauses in my contract and i just thought this made sense as a starting point
mircea_popescu: hey, im more into discussing the thing for the intellectual sake of theory
los_pantalones: perhaps i'll merge them as it becomes clearer to me but it seemed like a cheap option to do it this way
shovel_boss: mircea_popescu, mate can i post a channel name here
shovel_boss: i do TA(technical analysis, tell you when to buy or sell) on coins, i do it for anyone and any coin.you can join me at #shovel_boss crypto related and un related chat everyone is welcome :)
pankkake: even #bitcoin-assets isn't named #mircea_popescu
jurov: what is the near term outlook?
jurov: the price will be stable unless it changes?
jurov: it was #bitcoin-anal no?
BingoBoingo: pankkake> even #bitcoin-assets isn't named #mircea_popescu << #Kako_Chat would be a nice name for a channel
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- #iamaslut is now registered to mircea_popescu.
gribble: Nick 'RBecker', with hostmask 'RBecker!~RBecker@openvpn/user/RBecker', is identified as user 'RBecker', with GPG key id 8B2731A00F23E23F, key fingerprint 2C423D6DAE3CE952191B66EC8B2731A00F23E23F, and bitcoin address 1FgELbRe6ZnRU6xC4PvTXfDozEiAxVNL5P
mircea_popescu: for a moment i imagined pete_dushenski's rebecca's name actually is becker. for maximal lulz.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30337504 = 1.5169 BTC [-] {3}
mthreat: I just found out I'm a lord
mthreat: I'll have to buy a funny hat, or something
mircea_popescu: "I'd have to grow a moustache and get all kinds of robes and lotions and I'd need a new bedspread and new ... "
mthreat: Elton John is a lord, too, right?
mircea_popescu: ahahhah if this style becomes a thing where one's known as Chris, Lord Mthreat or Juraj, Lord Jurov it'll be the lol of all time.
mthreat: the hardest street names to pronounce in Buenos Aires are the English ones, because they pronounce them as if they were spanish
mthreat: I' not even sure what "loyola" will be
mircea_popescu: problem is they think spanish is "casteshan" over here, and they speak spanish
mthreat: there's a "Loyola Lane" in Austi
mircea_popescu: and i'll be drawn and quartered before i say lavalle like it was la vache.
mircea_popescu: (but if you want lulz at a party, ask local girl to say "lavalle qui rit")
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Namworld: That blog looks like the onion. Not visually I mean.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i am interviewing an assistant. part of the requiremenets are for her to get in wot. if you still need "office-esque" stuff done, she will be in channel in the future
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godovo: quick question - just how large are the "large early holdings"? except for the satoshi's
godovo: not letting usg "get in" for cheap is directly related to the size of the early holdings
pete_dushenski: "Australian law firm Clayton Utz has developed a smartphone app for companies facing dawn raids on their offices from police, antitrust and securities regulators, and tax officers."
pete_dushenski: "The Clayton Utz app allows in-house lawyers to choose which regulator is raiding their offices and guides them through how they need to act. It’s designed to be used even if regulators shut down an internal computer system."
godovo: are they "all or nothing"?