assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00055247 = 17.2371 BTC [-]
adlai: on the other hand, reiserfs takes a good idea through to a great execution
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5383 @ 0.00056113 = 3.0206 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23716 @ 0.00056113 = 13.3078 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00056405 = 1.1281 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Replaced by aluminium canoes and trimarans
BingoBoingo: Well, that and the Wooden frigate that still sails under the US flag.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00056631 = 3.7376 BTC [+]
TomServo: Curious, block 338710 had only 1 transaction (the new coins) - is that common?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the future is the zodiac - ak47 of the seas
ben_vulpes: subject of, did you ever read the book by the same title?
BingoBoingo: I haven't had the chance. Lately I've been trying to chew on Lucretius.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I actually gave attending that school a bit of thought as I was making choices, but... a more local small liberal arts college was offering a deal where I particularly wouldn't have to pay tuition to them. Best not to question the past though. I could have ended up some doomed postdoc in Oklahomo if I went to St John and actually read all of those books too young.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00056405 = 3.1587 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6519 @ 0.00056405 = 3.677 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think it was someone trying to imitate actual airgap with diodes that could be switched on/off
BingoBoingo: Well one of those things where naive party picks one thing the effort accomplishes and tries to apporximate just that and says the whole thing is good enough.
BingoBoingo: I mean it isn't like cables are broadcast antennas or anything.... <sarcasm>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40265 @ 0.00056405 = 22.7115 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: It's this peculiar miss that has people thinking the weapon of the US prison system is merely confinement, when the weapon is rectal violation.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 256.04, Best ask: 256.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 256.04, 24 hour volume: 13899.60712385, 24 hour low: 253.11, 24 hour high: 272.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
BingoBoingo: It's not the punishment on paper to be feared, but the de facto hell cultured under the veil of paper.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.0005652 = 5.1998 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Here's what they don't tell you when they bring you those papers to sign pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1z2Muzc )
WolfGoet_: no opinion on the plea bargain, outside my expertise
BingoBoingo: Well, not on the plea bargain itself, but on the effects of any plea bargain.
WolfGoet_: don't know anything bout that stuff, but if I was facing 30 years....
BingoBoingo: Such sentences rarely survive... sentencing...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17849 @ 0.00056729 = 10.1256 BTC [+] {2}
WolfGoet_: i have a buddy at the nyc da's office. at vance's... i think ti was preet who got him tho, not vance. will ask him if they will stick to it
BingoBoingo: WolfGoet_: Prosecutors get to pile on all of the charges they can imagine. Many will die before trial, more die at jury deliberation, the ones a defendant gets sentenced on might reflect a tenth of what the inital charges scared the defendant into pleaing.
BingoBoingo: 30 years proposed by a prosecutor is often 2-3 years by the time one has to report to jail.
BingoBoingo: Look fucker with the all special characters name. I can't up you until I can tab autocomplete your name.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1200 @ 0.00083951 = 1.0074 BTC [+] {4}
[\\\]: I was attempting to avoid the double switch
[\\\]: since assbot has shitty cody
[\\\]: so who is pleading?
BingoBoingo: Now Charlie before he reports to jail wonders why people don't want to collaborate with him.
[\\\]: what'd he plead to? House arrest at mommy?
BingoBoingo: Well, given trendon's sins he'd be non-grata no matter the disposition
[\\\]: There's always a chance for pleading. Its just a matter of how far they're willing to go.
BingoBoingo: But Charlie basically as he tells it is going to a work camp where he will get EMAIL!!!
[\\\]: he'll get email, but it'll be opened, read, and recorded before he even sees it.
BingoBoingo is still not pleading to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct from 2013 on principal.
[\\\]: did you tell at the judge?
BingoBoingo: My lawyer hired to handle the paperwork of the case and preparation has made it clear to the prosecutor and judge both that no plea is incoming.
WolfGoet_: can't even visit japan as a felon...
[\\\]: What's there to visit in Japan?
BingoBoingo: And yet the locals are the ones asking for extensions.
[\\\]: !up rickjamesbitch
WolfGoet_: roponigo is the most fun u can have in nightlife... just amazing fun
BingoBoingo: The local DA refuses trial because they might lose and I don't really care because fuck them, RESPECT MY AUTHORITIE!!!
[\\\]: well, if it never goes to trial, you've won
[\\\]: wait for SoL to run out
BingoBoingo: Nah, SOL isn't applicable anymore because they charged it.
BingoBoingo: Conviction is out of the question unless they man up and go to trial.
kakobrekla: [\\\] the only shitty part is your understanding. its not assbot, its gribble.
[\\\]: then you have 45 days
[\\\]: kakobrekla: its assbat's usage of gribble
kakobrekla: actually its your retarded nick, idk i guess you wanted to hide after the pirate fiasco
gribble: Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!\\\@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is not identified.
BingoBoingo: Well, maybe also the part where you used to use a name that involved... letters
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust assbot [ident "bingoboingo"]
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
[\\\]: you have to escape the slashes
kakobrekla: until then you will do the nick dance if you wish to do so.
BingoBoingo: [\\\]: Or maybe you parade around you old name with actual letters as a badge of pride. Unless you have a reason not too, like embarassment.
BingoBoingo: [\\\]: You let Pirate expand your butthole enough it gauge that gauge isn't the right unit of measure anymore, own it.
[\\\]: I do. I've admitted to that. This gets much fewer pms from randoms trying to trade/scam.
[\\\]: I get 0 on this nick.
kakobrekla: hint: its not the nick, its the channels.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1325 @ 0.00084198 = 1.1156 BTC [+] {7}
[\\\]: I've not changed the channels.
[\\\]: If it was the channels, this nick would get just as much, but it doesn't.
BingoBoingo is Aaronman running through the forest chasing Egyptians
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7352 @ 0.00055225 = 4.0601 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Time since last block: 50 minutes and 54 seconds
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
cazalla: xanthyos, i can just see some grandma buying that for her grandson thinking it's hip and cool because it's youtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.0005686 = 10.2348 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6244 @ 0.00053798 = 3.3591 BTC [-] {2}
svetlana: thanks, i can't be bothered to register with gribble
BingoBoingo: svetlana: Well, understandable. atm. How long have you been lurking. Just since the rogue DDoS bot here was complained about in other channels, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61920 @ 0.000575 = 35.604 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11042 @ 0.00057515 = 6.3508 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7857 @ 0.00057551 = 4.5218 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.25, Best ask: 251.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 251.25, 24 hour volume: 15643.13842182, 24 hour low: 250.61, 24 hour high: 272.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 246.0, vol: 17016.60396927 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242.282, vol: 16267.89814 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 245.92, vol: 42382.27194518 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 273.0, vol: 19.42285564 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 243.563, vol: 113288.72240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 254.26313, vol: 59.82076094 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 260.832, vol: 102.10615004 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ATM options motherfuckers seem to be following Buttstamp
BingoBoingo: But... Looks like a price desynchronization between Buttstamp and et al is beginning.
kakobrekla: pretty much all markets cept mebbe china look at buttstamp
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: And yet CampBX which only takes postal money orders is booming
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo actually i noted this desync yesterday , but on another chan.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Indeed. Funny to follow Buttstamp begining its accelerated Gox death.
kakobrekla: tbh i have seen enough of this comedy for my taste :|
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Well, almonds and cyanide both taste bitter and yes this sucks major donkey dick.
kakobrekla: soon i wont know what my belly is hurting from, laughter or hunger
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seems Bitstamp and Bitfinex sorts are leading a downward trend.
mircea_popescu: "oh hai guise, we move to san francisco to halp with the price supression pls to take us moar srs"
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: If necessary I will fucking punch a deer to death and fly it out to you sometime around November.
BingoBoingo: Seriously poor deer, but pummeling is good for flavor.
kakobrekla: but idk why sell if you can withdraw, withdrawals are supposedly working.
kakobrekla: as long as you are not with the last 18k you are good
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Fear of the unknown. It is a special hell. Was so for Gox too. Just remember you were the one who first marked Buttstamp for death.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I can't blame you though if you hit the portal vein instead of the carotid.
BingoBoingo: Slower death, appears cleaner externally, actual mortality seems more sudden.
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assbot: Instead of banning crypto, they could just legally require that everyone is only allowed to use PGP. Effectively the same thing.
kakobrekla: so shrem sold all the buttcoins for ze lawyers
kakobrekla: well, thats one way of decrypting the private key.
BingoBoingo: Charlie plead. He's on the otherside. Personally i've been doing Butt kegels and practicing knife fighting drills with a toothbrush.
mircea_popescu: no, ineffectively the same thing. i'd actually support that "ban"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Most of All I hope I don't have to find out.
BingoBoingo: Seriosuly though what is a muscle bound negroid former highschool running back going to do when I slice his dick with my butt kegels to defeat prison rape?
BingoBoingo: Well I dunno I'd have to grow them. Now that Obummercare offers dental my dentist prother is pulling many more teeth than he drills.... Can prolly make a prosthetic...
assbot: Instead of banning crypto, they could just legally require that everyone is only allowed to use PGP. Effectively the same thing.
BingoBoingo: I wonder how many of these people are going to miss the point of my candy.
assbot: Instead of banning crypto, they could just legally require that everyone is only allowed to use PGP. Effectively the same thing.
BingoBoingo: @benjammingh What is this start saving business. You retain that motherfucker. @thegrugq
BingoBoingo: AM I THE ONLY FUCKING AMERICAN WHO HAS A DEFENSE PREPARED AGAINST KINGPIN STATUE CHARGES WHILE AVOIDING DRUG BUSINESS
BingoBoingo: Maybe us crypto extremists are a minority.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You need a period befor your @ replies so they are massively public
☟︎ BingoBoingo: cazalla: If you start a reply with @ it goes to your lesser replies and bullshit feed
BingoBoingo: Instead of your, calling motherfuckers out feed
cazalla: yeah, that's why i always use with_replies for other's feeds, it's such a stupid fucking setup the way they have it, timeline isn't even a timeline these days with it not being in chronological order
mircea_popescu: TomServo: Curious, block 338710 had only 1 transaction (the new coins) - is that common? << empty blocks used to make up 10-20% of the chain a year or so ago.
kakobrekla: fucking empty blocks, we should make blocksize smaller.
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : F35 Program cost US$1.0165 trillion (projected). Trident program cost $39.546 billion (to date)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10143 @ 0.00057669 = 5.8494 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Right, and which of them "hurts" a theoretically more important enemy...
jborkl_: Cex dropping cloud mining sure shot the diff to shit
BingoBoingo: jborkl_: Well Cex.io was the big 2013 scam. And it dies nao.
gribble: Current Blocks: 338725 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1978 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 27309364098.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -37.89326
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92707 @ 0.00052801 = 48.9502 BTC [-] {6}
jborkl_: Yeah, hard to believe. A little further into the diff to make sure
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Last year in my survey on BTC hovels... Motherfuckers who loved Inputs.io also loved Cex.io
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72100 @ 0.00051095 = 36.8395 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: TomServo yeah i dunno how good that gribble estimate is.
TomServo: gribble might be recovering from outage?
mike_c: smoking the good stuff
jborkl_: No, it is correct but only accurate for small amount of the diff
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> gribble is on crack << crack doesn't work like... that...
mike_c: sort of a drop != -37%
jborkl_: Hard to tell until 500 blocks into the diff
kakobrekla: actually if there is no major drop there was no miners ?
mike_c: ok, this isn't hard. i'll do the maff
jborkl_: There was a hour and a half block earlier
BingoBoingo remembers a strong overlap between CEX.io fans and Inputs.io fans.
mike_c: ;;calc (12*60 + 12)/37
mike_c: i was wrong, maff is hard. 16.5 mins per block. but anyway, last 500 block time is fine.
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 1.05 B (16%) on Yes, 5.38 B (84%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 56`348 (100`000 to 10`000) ... (
http://bit.ly/1y65SM1 )
mike_c: omg. the holdup is the stupid 1 week buffer on a 3 week bet.
kakobrekla: but honestly im not sure this is desync bb.
mike_c: i am drowning in work over here, but i will get that article out soon
BingoBoingo is operating cognitavely for the next several hours at the level of unfiltered id
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: 30 years proposed by a prosecutor is often 2-3 years by the time one has to report to jail. << well, how's that plea bargain supposed to go, "oh, so you're offering 3 meals a day and free housing, over 30 years that's about 350k give or take. pay me say 175`000.00 in one lump up front and i might let the charges go".
mircea_popescu: generally prosecutor has little option, going through with it costs more before the thing even gets to a jury.
BingoBoingo: And fuckers still wonder why I want to turn a misdemeanor disorderly conduct into a battle of "NO U"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0005 = 8.35 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: not like it should dent the budget of the greatest country in the world anyway, got 1 trn to spend on imaginary planes.
BingoBoingo: Or at least let me motorboat the ADA's tits.
BingoBoingo: I mean I would take on a county misdemeanor "court supervision" if I were able at the same time to slander the county by motorboating the ADA under court order.
BingoBoingo: Basically county surrenders to me or no deal. Even then no deal, because their act of surrender is exonerating.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: hint: its not the nick, its the channels. << he got you there [/\/\/\]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.0005 = 7.85 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "[EDIT2] I've never seen so much stupidty concentrated in the same space as so much unpleasantness since I was in high school. Even if Popescu and his friends are right, they deserve to be left on a fork and lose all their precious play-money. This is why I usually avoid reading anything non-technical about Bitcoin. I'm going back to that policy, the pain was not worth the Quora credits."
mircea_popescu: ah this rape will be like... the sweetest rape in the history of that generally sweet article.
mod6: grape 'em in the mouth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0004998 = 2.7489 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Not the least of my reasons is that Mircea Popescu seems to be a thoroughly dislikeable, arrogant, smug, elitist and condescending chap. He makes every disagreement a personal dispute between his own superior intellect and the stupid idiots that are not him. His attitude towards Andresen, the public, the poor and the residents of Mali is despicable."
BingoBoingo: Fuck If I get this library job I interviewed for next week I am buying 30 petahash and forcing this issue.
BingoBoingo: How are all of those words not compliments.
BingoBoingo: Those words are merely mediocre praise compared to what I lavish on Kakobrekla.
mircea_popescu: "[EDIT] There is an explanation of the possible problem with increasing the block size in the comment section here Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork, which is much more informative that Mr Popsescu's own vindictive rambling."
mircea_popescu: "oh look, what mp said back in october when he was being nice about it is a lot easier to follow than what he's saying now, once the fuckwits in question ignored the polite approach. isn't it mp's fault that gavin is an idiot!"
mike_c: well, at least he acknowledged your superior intellect ;)
mircea_popescu: if you look at it, so fucking weird what burns these people.
BingoBoingo: The thing the fuckers are incapable of ever acknowledging will be the later less polite arguments. They are inoculated agaisnt it. When they come to reason everything the cite will have been written in 2013.
mircea_popescu: "by not specifying otherwise multiple times and using these prefab expressions"
BingoBoingo: Seriously imsaguy, the pirateat40 era history is your biggest asset. Milk it.
[\\\]: hold on, I'll get it
[\\\]: and no, imsaguy needs to die.
BingoBoingo: bunch of non letter characters seems cancerous.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.0004998 = 11.8453 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: what did you guys do - like 500lines in the past three hours?
rithm: i got you now pirateat40
rithm: you're going to jail
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'pirateat40', with hostmask 'pirateat40!\\\@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
rithm /joins #bitcoin-police
ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-court too, while you're at it
rithm: pirateat40 smooth move exlax
rithm: best nick change evar
rithm: that is so much more tab completable
BingoBoingo: So, what would fuckers here offer for "bitcoin police" badges
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] what's 3 oz refer to ? << can't really b'leev that 3 oz of weed makes anyone anything
ben_vulpes: 3 oz of blow is like maybe a vulpes eyebrow
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i imagine the point was to humiliate through the low bar.
hanbot: buenas tardes ben_vulpes
hanbot: what did you feed them?
ben_vulpes: nothing! i was derping on the mountain all weekend.
ben_vulpes: except for those 10 hours reading through the intertwined wallet/transaction generation code in 0.5.3
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i imagine the point was to humiliate through the low bar. << It isn't the mass, but the on-demand
hanbot: mircea_popescu fifa scamming you hard eh ? << srsly. asshats.
ben_vulpes: ahaha oh man once in a quarter irc lulzportunity
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00049635 = 4.2934 BTC [-] {2}
hanbot: tripleslash i thought #bitcoin-asshats is just everything non-#b-a
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 56,185.
rithm: there's a new assbot
tripleslash: hanbot: what happens when someone trolls you and drops #bitcoin-assets?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2793 @ 0.0005 = 1.3965 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "hardfork is considered by a majority of items nobody asked compatible with bitcoin and its rules"
kakobrekla: somebody tell the guy you can click on the timestamp.
mircea_popescu: i imagine it's passive-aggressive "i will crop a screenshot rather than link because somehow links from this shithole matter in the grand scheme, whereas 15 minutes of my life are worth squat"
hanbot: tripleslash i'm only trollable by large sports organizations.
mircea_popescu: so any bets/guesses as to what price bitcoin needs to touch for coinbase to fire 9 workers ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3207 @ 0.00052122 = 1.6716 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You did indeed. THey plan on withdrawals... later
rithm: withdrawals enabled after x balance amirite
rithm: get that revenue first
rithm: ok ok maybe withdrawals enabled never
assbot: /marymad /BBoingo /benjammingh more dick that you can shake a stick at.
mircea_popescu: "Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
mircea_popescu: Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding"
mircea_popescu: i suppose the part where satoshi pretty much left because he couldn't believe just how fucking idiotic gavin is doesn't really make the cut of what reddit likes to discuss huh.
BingoBoingo: Honestly probing satoshi's binaries. He started BTC with dumb ideas. Not implementing those dumb ideas and discouraging other people from the same was his legacy.
BingoBoingo: The thing is... Agent Broachwala showing up at your doorstep won't make you persona non-grata, but cooperating with agent Broachwala will
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00050424 = 7.2106 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: So, in a tremendous blow for liberty Ohio State won the College football championship tonight.
rithm: BingoBoingo mizzou is doing a hell of a good job in the sec
BingoBoingo: rithm: Thanks. My biggest surprise is they surrendered on orange ball.
rithm: urban meyer is a ig phony though he left florida for "his family"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00051122 = 3.4763 BTC [+]
rithm: now he's off winngin championships in ohio
BingoBoingo: Urban Meyer is legit. Just his flaw is convincing people Ohio is habitable.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, been around a long time so i doubt it, from what i read the customer support are just clueless and withdrawals are not enabled yet.. they're working on getting the money in, worry about letting people getting it out later lol
BingoBoingo: Now, sure SEC west was overrated this year apparently, but SEC East was hella under rated
mircea_popescu: cazalla they been arounbd a long time with no withdraws ?
cazalla: just this bitcoin thing, not so much
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Fiat operation. Apprently they impolemented the wrong side first
cazalla: ACR was doyle's room from memory until poker ban and then doyle had his name scrubbed from it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.000501 = 13.7525 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00051122 = 2.505 BTC [+]
felipelalli: cex.io pausing mining: what do you guys think about it?
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Cex.io was very big at exactly the same time inputs.io was big. My feeling is that it was predatory the whole time.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4248 @ 0.00081155 = 3.4475 BTC [-] {22}
felipelalli: thank you BingoBoingo. Are you guys going to write something about it in qntra.net?
BingoBoingo: I have no immediate plans to write on that, but if CEX dies completely...
cazalla: felipelalli, i did, i don't know enough about CEX to call it either way but fact network continues to grow without them raising some questions
tripleslash: cazalla, how long have they been suspended?
tripleslash: its too early to say network is still growing.
cazalla: announcement said they would suspend miners after the next diff change which was this morning
tripleslash: so until next diffchange, its impossible to say whether network is growing or shrinking
cazalla: tripleslash, you would see it in hash rate eh?
tripleslash: there's a reson difficulty isnt changed each block
cazalla: tripleslash, yeah i know, i just don't really care enough about these guys to go chasing up the current hash rate and doing some math to figure out if a 12-24 hour drop is because they turned miners off or if no drop in hash rate proves they never had miners to begin with
cazalla: i don't think so but please, explain
tripleslash: its impossible to conclusively say a drop/gain in network hash was attributable to them unless you know every other single source of mining and know the reported stats on them
cazalla: yeah i know there is nothing conclusive which is why i did not include anything about that in my article, i just included that they claim 300k users instead
tripleslash: give it a diffchange, perhaps, but then you'd have to somehow figure out a way to exclude anyone else that might be dropping out because of the sagging exchange price
cazalla: except they claim 40 petahash
cazalla: are you a customer of theirs or something?
tripleslash: so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00050022 = 3.0058 BTC [-]
tripleslash: but that doesn't mean I'm ok with you using fuzzy math to justify it
BingoBoingo: tripleslash: Do you know someone selling 40 PH/s of equipment...
cazalla: i didn't use any math tripleslash
tripleslash: cazalla: no math? that's the only way you prove they've dropped off.
cazalla: i specifically avoided it in the article because these fucks claim all sorts and i've better things to do than chase my own tail
BingoBoingo: People who fell for Tradefortress and CEX.io have a strong overlap.
BingoBoingo: If... Someone can come forward with a lot of PH/s for sale... I can't say I am incapable of bidding.
tripleslash: doesn't mean their bid will amount to much.
cazalla: perhaps they even have the hardware but instead of switching it off, they'll just continue to mine with hardware that customers paid for, who knows
tripleslash: but you certainly can't figure that out based on the number of blocks generated in the next 12 hours.
tripleslash: I think they were skimming hash off their pool and reselling.
cazalla: all i said was that it might raise some questions about whether what they claim is fact or lie
ben_vulpes: hey i finally caught up to this morning
gribble: Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is not identified.
cazalla: i never claimed or stated it would be definitive
tripleslash: as we all know, mining contracts have always sucked for the buyer.
tripleslash: so why write articles based on no math and make no claims as to accuracy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11887 @ 0.00051319 = 6.1003 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: the article wasn't based on no math.. it was based on what cex said on their blog and their website and i finished it by saying that despite these cloud miners being fucked, the network goes on with or without them anyway
tripleslash: I'm glad I didn't waste my time reading it then.
felipelalli: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:eaf2aaef1f3da52c021a173631aab57a159f9ba5fb9633c70bc5411f
gribble: You are now authenticated for user felipelalli with key 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14
BingoBoingo: tripleslash: If only you had the slightest idea who may ot may not be qntra's BitPay layoff source
gribble: Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is identified as user 'felipelalli', with GPG key id 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14, key fingerprint 9E08524833CB3038FDE385C54C0AFCCFED5CDE14, and bitcoin address 1LipeR1AjHL6gwE7WQECW4a2H4tuqm768N
undata: the article is mostly a quotation...
ben_vulpes: "I wanted to spend my bitcoin immediately, that very night, but I was at a loss." << the fiat mindset's strong with these folk
BingoBoingo: I am nigger man, chasing the prey through the bread fruit plants
cazalla: undata, the cex portion really only served as a means to discuss the new difficulty all time high anyway
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user felipelalli has been recorded.
undata: cazalla: this guy just wants to yell at someone
cazalla: undata, i want to yell at someone too so it works out
tripleslash: BingoBoingo, I missed that. I've been away for a while, catching up.
felipelalli: ;;rate BingoBoingo 2 very nice guy, received me very well, congratulations.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
tripleslash: nope. I was attempting to demonstrate why 12 hours isn't enough time to accurately measure hashrate, but apparently failed.
BingoBoingo: tripleslash: Do you have any artistic talents?
tripleslash: stumping for con artists was a past hobby of mine, although I didn't know it at the time.
cazalla: tripleslash, i already agreed, merely pointed out it could be an indicator, one piece of the puzzle so to speak if one was inclined to dig further, which i am not
tripleslash: 12 hours isn't really an indicator. its like flipping a coin one time to figure out if it is balanced.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle. << ok so i've got this crazy pet notion about maté and viral load
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If it counbteracts my model of ETOH and CYP load...
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It is a toxic waste processing plant in your body... and you can't get rid of it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.0005152 = 1.0119 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
ben_vulpes: (dun really think the two models would interact much, but also i don't know much microbio)
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'tripleslash', with hostmask 'tripleslash!\\\@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
felipelalli: Let me ask you guys a (stupid?) question: "hidden hash power" can be a problem? Suppose I start to invest in mining hardware but I do not turn on my machines. No one will know I am accumulating hash power. So, after a while, if I turn on all my machines I'd have - let's imagine - 80% of the hash rate. But it would be too late to revert the situation by the community. If big miners start to turn the machines off, they can not be hiding power?
BingoBoingo: Maybe? The thing is an raw hashpower measure gets messy.
tripleslash: felipelalli, if you were to say double the hashrate overnight, it would be hard for the "community" to counter it overnight.
tripleslash: you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up.
tripleslash: you could have ~50% of the hashrate and still only find 10% of the blocks
tripleslash: or you could have 10% of the hashrate and find 50% of the blocks.
assbot: So /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash didn't work. Good work banks! We all will still work to end you, only now we have nothing to lose. Neat combination.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7590 @ 0.00052518 = 3.9861 BTC [+] {2}
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BingoBoingo: badon: Are you really losing atm measuring in iz???
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00051309 = 11.4932 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00053461 = 3.2879 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17494 @ 0.0005412 = 9.4678 BTC [+]
assbot: BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2447 @ 0.00054122 = 1.3244 BTC [+] {2}
punkman:
http://samy.pl/keysweeper/ "KeySweeper is a stealthy Arduino-based device, camouflaged as a functioning USB wall charger, that wirelessly and passively sniffs, decrypts, logs and reports back (over GSM) all keystrokes from any Microsoft wireless keyboard in the vicinity."
BingoBoingo: Punk you know that sounds a lot like HS rules
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17180 @ 0.00054127 = 9.299 BTC [+]
punkman: "Boyd’s used its 15-pound allotments (the maximum amount of uranium the company was allowed to keep on hand at any given moment)"
BingoBoingo: punkman: When Uncle vince pisses tumors... Family matters
punkman: I have a couple old, very slightly radioactive camera lenses
BingoBoingo: Nothing hurts as bad as the follow up to that particulat cancer.
assbot: BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
punkman: cazalla, but if it has the BPA FREE stamp it's all good!
cazalla: never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label
BingoBoingo: People don't understand BPA makes me haet moar
cazalla: don't forget to drink some water before bed BingoBoingo :)
cazalla: you don't want to wake up feeling as i did a few days ago
punkman: cazalla, what's the baby bottle nipple made of?
cazalla: silicone afaik, can't win em all eh
cazalla: i tried to keep him on the titty but bugger bites down and makes missus cry
punkman: good silicone should be okay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00051927 = 1.6051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3093 @ 0.00054127 = 1.6741 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: punkman: You aren't desoxyn. Heisenburg persists without you
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2015 03:41:56; BingoBoingo: cazalla: You need a period befor your @ replies so they are massively public
danielpbarron: .@ is ugly, you should better just type out your whole response before the @
cazalla: it is so gay how the run things at twitter that i will not confirm just to get it to operate properly
cazalla: allow me to try that again... it is so gay how things are run over at twitter and i will not conform just to get it to operate properly
BingoBoingo: cazalla danielpbarron You are indeed the gayest
cazalla: BingoBoingo, you make more sense drunk than when i am sober
BingoBoingo: Maybe you need to stop entertaining dude who wants to steal my butthole]
BingoBoingo: And no amount of facebook juice smooths this out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.0005466 = 8.8823 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: get that human jukebox in here.. Vexual!
BingoBoingo: In lynsie though I have cultivated the ultimate Germanic storm trooper.
BingoBoingo: Mostly though just fearing... niggers pretendign to righteous
BingoBoingo: Who the hell is the anglo fuck who proposes neutral fucks?
BingoBoingo: So much hate exists and only some nggers can shake it off
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00080312 = 4.0156 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00054406 = 6.8008 BTC [-]
cazalla: what's that pdf about BingoBoingo? you have carpal tunnel?
BingoBoingo: punkman: Because vince HAD CANCER 4 TMES IN 3 YEARS
cazalla: don't be playing that one BingoBoingo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8460 @ 0.00053473 = 4.5238 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: All around me are familiar places, worn out places, worn out places, a very... mad world
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4191 @ 0.00053457 = 2.2404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0005296 = 4.7134 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7467 @ 0.0005296 = 3.9545 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4539 @ 0.00079915 = 3.6273 BTC [-] {14}
adlai: thank you btce! error:140943FC:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad record mac
Naphex: that doesn't look good at all
Naphex: either you get corrupted data on your connection, or you're being mitm'd
Naphex: also SSLv3 should be disabled on all exchanges
punkman: maybe some version mismatch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17895 @ 0.00052826 = 9.4532 BTC [-]
Naphex: the alert is a bad mac
Naphex: so that means a packet sent, was mismatching its MAC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00054913 = 5.9328 BTC [+] {2}
Naphex: adlai: as far as I see, btc-e definitely has SSLv3 disabled. So if you got that message you're either being MITM'd and the trapper device is failing mac'ing messages, or who knows what. you shouldn't be receiving that error
adlai: i'm almost certainly being MITMed (who isn't?), and i'd be surprised if the men in the middle are shitty enough to leak it as protocol errors
Naphex: the trapping devices they usre are pure poop
adlai is not using ossl though
Naphex: TLS 1.2Yes / TLS 1.1Yes / TLS 1.0Yes / SSL 3No / SSL 2No
adlai: right. so this error means that somebody in the middle tried to downgrade our connection, and my ssl lib took a shit instead of complying?
Naphex: the downgrade worked, but failed MAC'ing the messsages
adlai: oh imatard, this library just wraps openssl.so
Naphex: adlai, what i'd do i import the btc-e cert manually and remove other trusted sources
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00438 / 0.00438888 / 0.00440745 (201 shares, 0.88 BTC), 7D: 0.00394588 / 0.00424875 / 0.00440745 (686 shares, 2.91 BTC), 30D: 0.00175233 / 0.0035976 / 0.00448833 (5898 shares, 21.22 BTC)
davout: x.eur, 2015's best performing investment so far :D
cazalla: mebe BingoBoingo had the right idea.. imma get liquoured up lol
davout: cazalla: we need a !gotosleep in addition to !down
cazalla: i'm only having one, no excess drinking tonight
cazalla: 15m later, onto the third lol
adlai: what are we drinking tonight
cazalla: the other bottle of whiskey
adlai is earshot away from a bottle of red label
adlai: it's half full and not really mine so it stays that way
cazalla: well, i got a couple bottles of dimple 12y on special last week so polished one bottle off at the other nights drinking session and now i have this bottle but i'll stop after this one and go to bed
punkman: but maybe some more work first
davout: "it's thinking about it and preparing by playing tabletop 5th edition Dungeons & Dragons game in the office." <<< hahahah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0005609 = 1.851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57131 @ 0.00056992 = 32.5601 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00057758 = 7.1331 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00057812 = 19.0201 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005499 = 4.9491 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00057836 = 9.3405 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00057907 = 7.6148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7253 @ 0.0005719 = 4.148 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "Russian Ruble to rally to 50 RUB or less per USD before Feb"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1085/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.2606717 BTC. Current weight: 23,898.
TomServo: Should your lack of gribble use be seen as an indictment? :)
mircea_popescu: just waiting for kako to put finishes touches on assbot wot.
assbot: In this moment of loss I would like to stand in solidarity with my people by saying "Je suis Karpeles". : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/17DLBSc )
mircea_popescu: tripleslash:so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges << it's pretty noticeable they DIDN'T have 40 ph.
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's a 15-25% ish chance by now they actually did and it's just being noised out. tough chance.
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1IGVwSi )
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter WHAT the other, larger altcoin is. even if it is "nothing at all" : for as long as most miners are mining "nothing at all" then the altcoin Bitcoin is in danger of being stomped.
mircea_popescu: that's why the article says the only stable solution is once 50%+ of the earth available energy is used to mine.
mircea_popescu: tripleslash: you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up. << "other mienrs will catch up" is so much nonsense. other miners are turning down their rigs as it is with the price today. if diff suddenly jumped 100%, "other miners" will give up and go home. which is why the other miners are not to be taken too
mircea_popescu: seriously and why miners actually aren't given that much of a voice in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin holders may put up more rigs to protect hteir holdings, and they may or may not also be miners, but that's coincidental.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8414 @ 0.0005719 = 4.812 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: heh at that link. "replace bisphenol-a with bisphenol-s. be surprised that s stands for shittier."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24836 @ 0.00056774 = 14.1004 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Canellas wrote to defendant Warren, “Great job dude. We kicked ass! Time to get paid.” About ten minutes later, defendant Warren responded, “Hey man, I don’t know where you come up with some of this stuff, but you saved the day. It’s been a rough year but it’s been damn good. Nice work dude. Let’s get paid!” Canellas and defendant Warren then left the office to enjoy New Year’s Eve."
mircea_popescu: these are, it should be noted, the ivy league's best and brigtest
mircea_popescu: that's what they say, and they say it over plaintext channels held by their enemy.
mircea_popescu: then people say that pirate roberts character was stupid.
mircea_popescu: yes, he was. do you know who else is just as stupid ? oh... everyone in america ? the smartest lawyers and the smartest businessmen, graduating at the absolute top of the absolute best classes in the absolute best universities ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00057234 = 6.353 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: cazalla: never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label << a wise man is you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00055829 = 4.4663 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they persist in thinking that it actually matters how it LOOKS, but hey.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, how's that for "unmask itself" ?
mircea_popescu: "reddit will actually delete the vote count and comment count of popular threads if subversive."
thestringpuller: all the comments are still there and stuff. And i'm sure bob alison still has his karma
xanthyos: i guess 300 wasn't low enough a buy price
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah, see, bob allison had put the thing in too,
mircea_popescu: but there existed another insertion, same article, by a diff person
mircea_popescu: and the db just moved all the comments to the other, identically named, article.
mircea_popescu: you shouldn't be able to read all that stuff, as far as reddit's concerned.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00055829 = 3.0706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00057985 = 13.9187 BTC [+] {3}
xanthyos: i now have 2.91 btc in my control and still don't feel super rich
kakobrekla: should have got doge, doze trailing zeros make for that feeling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00057021 = 5.36 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: danielpbarron all my twitter notifications come from you. weird how it kinda does what it's supposed to.
thestringpuller: I don't even tweet but I know shits going down when you do mention on me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.00056687 = 4.811 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0005597 = 7.444 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00058144 = 4.4771 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful. thanks for teh love!
davout: "you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful" <<< remove mircea_popescu's +v when log.bitcoin-assets.com starts to be short on disk space :D
thestringpuller: blacklisting web sites is eerily familiar to burning books
assbot: "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... (
http://bit.ly/1wb65X4 )
mircea_popescu: well hey, you're the one that got censured by reddit right ?
mircea_popescu: read mah piece on the topic, write your own take, see what qntra editorial board policy is to react to censorship etc.
mircea_popescu: no, see. there were two reddit submissions, exact same title.
mircea_popescu: the one that's missing had 100s of votes and like 300 comments
mircea_popescu: the one that's still there, andwhich somehow displays thew comments made on the other one, never had more than a few votes
mircea_popescu: anyway, by the time they're resorting to such things, they're clearly desperate. the matter must be pressed relentlessly.
thestringpuller: an old high school buddy of mine once said to me, "Some of the worst things in history have occurred when too many are in one place at once"
mircea_popescu: well, plenty of people died and a buncha women got raped and a bunch more kids were born out of it.
thestringpuller: i guess his point was too many idiots in one place means statistically someone is bound to do something stupid
thestringpuller: "Mircea got banned from twitter because he was threatening to kill Andreas Antonopoulos" << LOL
hanbot: mircea_popescu perhaps i'm reading poorly, but not sure i grok the foreboding re choosing life: "But if you choose "life", remember one important point from Shrem's misadventure :" --if the dead are the old reptiles a la newhouse, clinging to relevancy, wouldn't choosing life be the sane, independent choice?
mircea_popescu: hanbot the monologue in question is, "Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece su
mircea_popescu: it on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves.
mircea_popescu: Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20251 @ 0.00056765 = 11.4955 BTC [-] {2}
hanbot: aha, i see. those are some highly meaningful quotation marks, around "life" then.
hanbot: well, ought to be for someone more alert than i
mircea_popescu: anyway. there IS going to be a transfer of power, and all the bs "let's ban mp on twitter because he stands for priviledge and against our impotent, nonsensical brand of socialism", "let's delete reddit articles because they humiliate our houseboys" etc won't do jack shit.
mircea_popescu: twitter, reddit and the rest of the social media crapolade aren't powerful enough. they work, for as long as they suck my cock. otherwise... they're about as useful as homework, who the fuck wants to bother themselves in a playpen designed by adults for "safety".
mircea_popescu: there is going to be a transfer of power, and the only thing demuring can possibly accomplish is make it bloody. which i don't mind, because old people are too old as it is. even them out a little.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18598 @ 0.00058144 = 10.8136 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: "Unless that's what you want, who am I to tell you how to live your life."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00058351 = 10.6782 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: whoa reddit actually deleted the missile crisis thread?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 230.37, Best ask: 230.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 230.41, 24 hour volume: 45755.02935209, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 272.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> [] and someone recently died at burning man << every year, actually.
ben_vulpes: "it's a tragedy!" "no, there are 80K drug-addled party monsters running around in the desert around giant machines built with nary much of a care for safety. it's amazing the mortality rate's that low"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00058602 = 11.193 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: apparently in this case shit burial wasn't deemd good enough.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm curious what the gossipd "counter" strategy is going to be. 've not had the pleasure of finding anything yet.
mircea_popescu: lizard empire very large, very porous, generally i get the good bits before they fully propagated even.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, if something holds itself to be a power, it'd really have to be independent, n'est pas ?
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> " it's amazing the mortality rate's that low" << im still wondering at the following social engineering feat :
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do they manage to keep fireworks off the grounds ?
mircea_popescu: if they didn't there'd be 3-5% casualty rates each year
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the "leave no trace" paradigm?
ben_vulpes: dude you clearly have no idea how weak american fireworks are
ben_vulpes: maybe an eye or a finger here or there.
mircea_popescu: no no, listen, i mean my words. fireworks. that the stuff available isn't fireworks, that's fine. still social engineering
ben_vulpes: b) not really in the spirit of the party - messy, dangerous to bystanders
ben_vulpes: i'd suggest you consider the immense feat of reigning in the firearm use.
ben_vulpes: ever heard of the "drive by shooting gallery"?
mircea_popescu: "Protect riparian areas by camping at least 200 feet from lakes and streams.
mircea_popescu: Good campsites are found, not made. Altering a site is not necessary." roflmao.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> b) not really in the spirit of the party <<< THIS.
mircea_popescu: do you understand the breathtakingly astounding achievement to get a bunch of teenaged idiots on drugs think "it's not in the spirit" ?>
ben_vulpes: once upon a time you could bring a truck-mounted m16
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's a pretty wacky thing
mircea_popescu: "Never feed animals. Feeding wildlife damages their health, alters natural behaviors, and exposes them to predators and other dangers."
mircea_popescu: "we wouldn't feed the shit you eat to fucking wild hogs already!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's common for women to enjoy being pregnant.
mircea_popescu: so now that bitcoin.org is banned in russia, the real foundation is actually the only legal resource in bitcoin as far asthey're concerned ?
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ben_vulpes: is a gpg signature topologically the same as encrypting to the public key?
danielpbarron: i think it's like decrypting a plaintext with the private key
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Elian11: Euros seem cheap these days, no?
Elian11: I'm on a trip, and i think most things are a bargan at that rate
Elian11: (except stuff on the ferry in/around airport, etc)
Elian11: Who is in the states? Would you minde tell about the cost of a sandwitch and what you like to eat?
Elian11: (in between slices of bread)
Elian11: and what kind of sandwich do you like to eat thestringpuller ?
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thestringpuller: Elian11: publix for the mediocre versions. but i'll go to higher scale grocery stores
Elian11: ne way, my favourite sandwitch is a BLT. Some clown in the USA tried to charge me 7USD for one once. I almost smacked hin upside the head for that.
Elian11: hmm, the BLT is tangent unrelated to ongoing anecdotal buying power calculation.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anything i eat is standard enough for such procedures.
Elian11: BLT is the simplest sandwitch it should not be more than 5, and that is with chips
mircea_popescu: what's wrongwith just going by gas, rents and blowjobs, like normal people ?
Elian11: its basically a condiment sandwitch
cazalla: thestringpuller, did you manage to get that article done on reddit while i was zzz?
Elian11: No, imo sandwitch is an excellent measure because of the diversity of ingredients and other costs aggregated
Elian11: Rend for the store, wage for the cook, bread baker, etc
Elian11: What would you drink with that?
mircea_popescu: depends. milk, generally. orange juice (freshly squeezed)
Elian11: ahh, i can try to get something like that tomorrow to compare cost
Elian11: is unpasteurized milke significantly more valuable than pasteurized ?
mircea_popescu: you'll prolly have to get it with the slavegirl au paquet, cuz i dunno anyone makes such comercially.
mircea_popescu: not really, unless by pasteurized you mean uht'd, which tastes like shit.
cazalla: on account of it being your article, would be rude of me to scoop you while you're working :)
thestringpuller: yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Elian11 ultra high temperature, an application of radioactivity to make milk shelf stable.
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Elian11: yikes, that would make the milk worthless to me
Adlai: asswot is my new best friend. i come in here, head brimming with stupid, dribble it out all over the channel. then by the time i'm authed i realize none of it is worth repeating.
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Elian11: the only thing is... i kinda like Yahoo chocolate milk
mircea_popescu: cazalla imo as long as the comment was made by human as opposedto machine, it should be published.
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Adlai met not one but TWO people who'd never heard of bitcoin before
cazalla: yeah, that's what we've done so far
Adlai: nice thing about being so close to roofing the all-time maximum drawdown is that it makes you focus on things other than price when explaining bitcoin from scratch
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Adlai: one was all "this is interesting but computers are not my thing", the other said she'd tell her son to read about it, because he "once tried to explain algorithms to me"
mircea_popescu: i dun get why you think either conversation's at all productive ?
mircea_popescu: i don't go about bothering random folk about sumerian tablets, fascinating as they may be ?
Adlai: well i was thinking about this afterwards, wondering what the use of spending ~15 minutes explaining a technology to people who made every indication of not being its target audience
Adlai: it's still important, though. at least, more important than discussing whatever polite smalltalk we could have made otherwise
mircea_popescu: if you're doing this, why not explain dungeons & dragons to random people ?
mircea_popescu: of course it's important. everything they don't know is important.
mircea_popescu: why aren't you explaining supreme court practice to them ?
Adlai: because the populace doesn't care that nerds play D&D in their basement, they don't think it finances terrorism
Adlai: but both of these folks now have a very very positive *initial* impression of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: for that matter, "violence in videogames" is EXACTLY That.
mircea_popescu: because to the common imbecile, all things are one thing and that's that.
Adlai: "you never get a second chance to make a first impression" is true for bitcoin as well, only bitcoin doesn't get to pick how to present itself
Adlai: so these are two fewer people who hear about bitcoin for the first time in some cable news screed
mircea_popescu: you act as if the responsibility for idiocy is on the thing.
mircea_popescu: let them figure it out, eh ? if the 'first impression' is wrong, it's the impressee not the impressor that has to change.
Adlai: i was also forced into this conversation initially, my free choice was just continuing it rather than changing subject
Adlai was pouring drinks for guests, dad says "he's practicing his bartending in case bitcoin goes to zero"
mircea_popescu: "for all the effort he's spent with me, i'd be pouring drinks if it weren't for my own work"
Adlai: eh it was in good humor dunno
Adlai: and it brought up the subject
mircea_popescu: well you're never going to explain bitcoin from a dismissive position like that.
Adlai: i'd rather explain derive bitcoin with strangers than discuss the weather
mircea_popescu: seems there's other points to address first. but then again, im an asshole.
Adlai: "derive" is important... a great way to introduce bitcoin to people is just to explain the problems and solve them together
mircea_popescu: you'll notice discussions of the weather proceed socially on a simplified model.
Adlai: right, we started as apples as money, then moved to coins, paper, digital fiat, cleared digital cash, bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: the simplified model i'd readily think of being something more akin to "well currently, you people have some sort of control, based on contracts and fiat currency and so on. what we kids are doing is making an entirely new system of control, where you will be entirely powerless.
Adlai: both these people were painfully aware of their powerlessness
Adlai: in the sense that we kept running into stuff like "well are you familiar with the concept of a hash? ok, so a hash is..."
mircea_popescu: "we're powerless already in teh old system... mebbe this new thing worth a look ?"
Adlai: oh they probably do fine in the old system, the powerlessness which they sense is in the digital domain
mircea_popescu: Adlai why would you introduce a specific concept if you're not willing to introduce it rigurously ?
Adlai: btw in the defense of apples - apples are a simpler value store than coins, because they're directly useful - you can eat them if you're hungry, and you can be pretty sure that other people like to eat them too
Adlai: you can verify their quality visually, no holes / mould - it's a good apple
mircea_popescu: but apples are nonsense as they never were value store.
Adlai: this rules out food as money
Adlai: we should just make coins out of crystallized honey
mircea_popescu: the only thing i like about honey as money is that it gives kids botulism.
mircea_popescu: some limit on universalizing money is better than none.
Adlai: don't we get the ability to break down botulin very early on?
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2015 20:34:50; thestringpuller: yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
Adlai: also, you don't want money which causes botulism in infants, the earth will be overrun by the spawn of the penniless
Adlai: what part of "opposed to machine" is "no censorship"?
Adlai: this is censorship.
Adlai: i've been out for almost two years, pls.
mircea_popescu: it's so sad the us is wasting 1 trn to build the f35, instead of building fucking power suits.
mircea_popescu: if the us infantry had what's basically an android chassis, 3 or so meters tall...
Adlai can't be in the mossad, he didn't even get security clearance to do the simplest possible code shit
Adlai: apparently going on irc makes you a terrorist
mircea_popescu: that's what i'd do as minister of war i mean peace. fucking power suits. flamethrower in one arm, minigun in other, go for it.
mircea_popescu: Adlai lol you seriously blew your clearance because #b-a ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller can you imagine what the volunteer lines'd look like ?
Adlai: #b-a didn't exist when i failed clearance
Adlai: this was before i started the army
Adlai: bitcoin existed and i'd heard of it! but not #b-a
Adlai: and i'd also managed to forget bitcoin already, silly me
Adlai: even i feel old compared to this channel
Elian11: Does anyone have clearance? Is it cool?
Adlai: btw i would like a statement struck from the logs
Adlai: apparently all the cool kids ask for this, right? :D
Adlai: i have realized that i do not regret being born a man
Adlai: because i can play the "how old do i look to you?" game
Adlai: it's amazing how bad people can get at this
Adlai: if i wanted comeback i'd have asked your mother to spit in a cup!
mircea_popescu: the saddest thing here being, of course, that the general expectation that the girl's sucking cock is entirely a 90s and after affair.
Adlai: well somewhere along the way humans got quite bad at having sex, probably bottoming out in victorian england, or modern hassidic yeshivas
Adlai: regarding how to block gossipd: same way that torrents are "blocked"... either by ultimately ineffective packet filtering by ISPs, or by targeted, expensive, and extreme "making examples of" individuals that fuck up badly enough
mircea_popescu: Adlai both serving more to fan the flames than anything.
mircea_popescu: exactly the tsar's playbook, that resulted in one dead tsar holding in his arms one dead tsar baby.
Adlai: they discourage some people, which satisfies the short term interests of the bureaucrats that actually have to plan and authorize such things
Adlai: "our department killed seven terrorists/dealers/traffickers this month!" sure, but you also recruited seventeen.
Adlai: when was the last time a court ordered somebody to divulge a pgp key?
mircea_popescu: or to quote monty pythin, "this is the most outrageous miscarriage of justice since tuesday"
Adlai: in planet earth. these things have a way of leaking, even if initially it's just between agencies
cazalla: asciilifeform: aha finally figured out why. nm <<< i named it qntranet so it was obvious user is coming from the website instead of random joe blow
cazalla: but i must credit danielpbarron for the idea as first saw him using that to denote which users were coming here from which forum
mircea_popescu: hey Adlai what's the most obscene, revolting and horrible hebrew swear you can think of ?
Adlai: this is a very relative question, who are you trying to offend?
dub: erryday I thank Al Gore
Adlai: how about זונה, nice and simple
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fluffypony: Reddit humour:
http://imgur.com/a/33Qpw (some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos, and proceeded to canvas girls for their opinion on Bitcoin)
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gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@unaffiliated/thestringpuller', is not identified.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "what's a 'small fork'? Something like 'a little pregnant'?" << figure you'd enjoy that one
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ben_vulpes: funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report
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