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feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/21/pizarro-isp-update-january-21-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 21, 2019
asciilifeform: ( and before anyone loses appetite, this experiment was on a test box in torture room, not in pizarro )
BingoBoingo: If you have been using Pizarro shared hosting your IRC bouncer you are invited to stand up an IRC bouncer on my Rockchip as the vacant Rockchip appears to have failed.
mod6: ahem: *Pizarro
billymg: trinque: i made a deposit on sunday in order to cover my pizarro invoice but it's not showing up in my balance yet. i'm not in a hurry but curious about the status of it
mircea_popescu: "you should have gone with pizarro" "i did this in 2015, where was pizarro ?" "mkay."
mircea_popescu: PART of the reason for 2nd para of http://qntra.net/2019/01/el-chapo-allegedly-used-voip-had-sysadmin-flipped-by-criminal-fbi/ ie guzman hiring an inane moron with a reddit account, is that guzman didn't have how to hire pizarro.
BingoBoingo: It's a relief to get the Pizarro conversation going again instead of having it stuck in just my head
asciilifeform: a pizarro-sponsored flight must carry max weight.
mircea_popescu: i meant, pizarro made more money as a financial vehicle, exploiting fx rates, than as an operator.
mircea_popescu: b) the principal moneymaker for pizarro has been its booked stock of iron
asciilifeform: it is also time to speak of the next crate. and the customary four cargo slots. 1 is to contain a replacement for uy1 ( and ideally will run cuntoo . ) 1 will contain a 1u that holds rk's. this gives 2 1u slots remaining, they can be occupied by colo passengers, if these stand up and wish to ride , or pizarro irons, at BingoBoingo's option.
asciilifeform: incidentally manifest actually includes 2 FG units ( pizarro-owned ) . i had to fly'em back in april , if anyone recalls, cuz of ben_vulpes's misadventure where they were pawed by orcs for whole night
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 16:48 asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place.
asciilifeform: ( can't speak for colo subscribers such as trinque , referring to pizarro irons )
mircea_popescu: so then as a factual matter, if asciilifeform threw out erry box that rebooted "by itself" for no apparent reason, pizarro would be missing uy1
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the one concerning bit is whether indeed pizarro still owns that box or not. << This very much concerns me
mircea_popescu: the one concerning bit is whether indeed pizarro still owns that box or not.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: The investigation is ongoing. Other than the chassis interor being marginally cleaner than before asciilifeform instrumented the machine, answers remain elusive. Per http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/#selection-13.0-17.315 I am inclined to not charge any Pizarro shared hosting customers for the month of January though I am open to hearing other suggested remedies.
BingoBoingo: In other updates Pizarro www now has selection js in place when viewing individual blog entries
asciilifeform: achtung pizarro subscribers : if 1 of you is running saturation test on the pipe, plz nao & in future ~announce prior~, ty.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 14, 2019
asciilifeform: incidentally i was not aware that UY1 uses grub (grub2 no less). grub is fatwa'd on pizarro-owned iron. i'ma correct this omission in a scheduled maintenance after we cure the moar pressing issue in re uy1.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : also i am getting multi-second ping latencies to pizarro (all boxen)
asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place.
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
mircea_popescu: re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ : leaving aside how annoying it is i can't select, and how it's the case trying to comment timesout : it seems the case pizarro ~made~ about 2 bitcoin during november, on the strength of its fiat-denominated holdings, taking it from being worth ~14 to being worth ~17 bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: re http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/#selection-51.13-51.130 specifically (ie, "no hardware to sell"), is this actually the case ? i thought there was some overcapacity
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 23:46 mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if pizarro can say "talked to 985,553 heathens this month, here's the script, here's the results breakdown, here's the more interesting lulz/notions/ideas" it stands in a WAY the fuck better position than what trinque above perceived may well degenerate into a simple "gimme".
mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ?
trinque: if customers wont take the diminished capacity that's basically all else pizarro has that has (if very) hypothetical value
mircea_popescu: let them pay pizarro, nobody said they're gonna be making policy.
mircea_popescu: "my five year plan for pizarro is that by the time we're done with the first three it'll not be physically possible to do such a thing as 'host a website' anywhere else."\
mircea_popescu: the shaver shaves universally -- it's not one shaver for phf and a diff one shaver for pizarro.
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
diana_coman: ugh, why is pizarro's tech finding out this only now!
BingoBoingo: to work on the Pizarro marketing problem. Recently there have been some promising contacts from marketing efforts, but I haven't been converting yet.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> how do you see that working before pizarro starves? << I worry. The more I think about the marketing and trying to make a plan for marketing I worry. I am in the unhappy position of being out of my depth on the marketing problem, repeating my concerns about my lack of marketing prowess, trying to apply advice as I can while juggling other concerns, and not getting any feedback on incentives that can bring other people in
diana_coman: could pizarro even get in the green just by reducing the pipe? sharing rack sounds more like killing pizarro by definition
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:45 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this)
diana_coman: how do you see that working before pizarro starves?
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has this tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is that fleshed out anywhere? << I flesh out Pizarro's situation here http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ I am hoping to get feedback from the Pizarro board (asciilifeform and mod6) and this forum. trinque is the first person to
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, no select script on pizarro's blog? << I'll get it set up in the next couple days.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, no select script on pizarro's blog?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Please continue to weigh in. The present lack of weighing in on Pizarro by the forum is concerning.
BingoBoingo: This may be the case. I am very wary about pursuing that avenue without the board and input from all major Pizarro customers.
trinque: BingoBoingo: in reading your latest, I'm curious what fallback plans you have in between pizarro as is today and pizarro shuttered.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 00:03 BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886446 -> this made me jump at first to check on S.MG's servers with Pizarro; BingoBoingo please make those announcements clear from the start as to what services precisely are/have been affected ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- More Lessons Learned - Pizarro Entering 2019
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/06/pizarro-update-january-6th-2019-november-and-december-2018-statements/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update January 6th, 2019 - November and December 2018 Statements
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and without pizarro, it will be very very cold and dark and we'll be drifting in the unforgiving vacuum of interstellar space. << Today crunching monthly numbers. Followed on the agenda by reviewing 2018/putting forth tentative plan based on those lessons 2018
asciilifeform: and without pizarro, it will be very very cold and dark and we'll be drifting in the unforgiving vacuum of interstellar space.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:13 mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yet -- it is not my business ; so i'm just going to count it as such, "working on pizarro" without further inquiry (and with the firm expectation that someone IS doing all that).
mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
mod6: Yeah, I get the pizarro ip for both A and MX records. Just in case, I have posted the clearsigned report to my website for viewing: http://mod6.net/2018/December/31/btcf_address_201812.txt
BingoBoingo: dig shows the MX pointed at the foundation's Pizarro box from here
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 14:59 asciilifeform: diana_coman: looks like ml not yet moved to pizarro, it's still hosted wherever it was that jurov had it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: looks like ml not yet moved to pizarro, it's still hosted wherever it was that jurov had it
BingoBoingo: ^ Attn bidders, Pizarro fiat Auction for January is live.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/31/pizarro-update-december-31st/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update December 31st
BingoBoingo: <trinque> http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat << I'll add reading through the old posts to the to do list.
trinque: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat
billymg: diana_coman: i loaded the necessary files into the patches/ .seals/ .wot directory structure and ran them through v.py (exact steps here: http://billymg.com/2018/10/the-complete-noobs-guide-to-setting-up-mp-wp-on-a-pizarro-rock-chip-server/)
mircea_popescu: mod6 BingoBoingo was saying something about getting a closer to original thing on pizarro
mod6: BingoBoingo: Can I get a wp-mp @ pizarro when you have some time, feel free to invoice me or whatever is right and proper.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/24/pizarro-update-december-23rd/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update December 23rd
mircea_popescu likes the pizarro 32char pws.
mircea_popescu: and now im in the unenviable position of thinking about nonsense. look here asciilifeform : the man says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881968 and what am i to do ? remember that you're one of the principal idiots who decided to run their pizarro process throgh a encryptospitball, and before that you came up with the brilliancy that was "secret clauses" in pizarro nearly got ben_vulpes beheaded. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people".
diana_coman: as it's all pizarro anyway I suppose you can just set up some testing if you want more details on that
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
BingoBoingo: ^ Only a few hours left to bid in this month's Pizarro auction
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878002 << o hallelujah! well so then great, ty Mocky_ & everyone involved, pizarro sitting pretty for once! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-02 04:05 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: send me pizarro transactions s'il vous plait, note payments for service in advance; i'll put them into the hopper and produce statement numbers. asciilifeform: next girthy table and calculation to write is the customer equity tracker, i will draft and populate with historical data over the next few days and let you know if i hit any puzzlers (low odds, i'm well-acquainted with the process).
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: send me pizarro transactions s'il vous plait, note payments for service in advance; i'll put them into the hopper and produce statement numbers. asciilifeform: next girthy table and calculation to write is the customer equity tracker, i will draft and populate with historical data over the next few days and let you know if i hit any puzzlers (low odds, i'm well-acquainted with the process).
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877602 << there's listed pricing for 'rk', 'rk + fg', you get 1 of the pizarro stash with the latter. ☝︎
lobbes: danielpbarron: fwiw my pizarro rockchip has served me well thus far as a home for both auctionbot and for mp-wp. Hell, you could run a mirror for your church's www in the event it goes down AND host the poker bot
BingoBoingo: Apartments of the same or smaller size as Pizarro habitation module have a list price of ~100,000 USD even for sale. Rent for 14,500 to 16,000 pesos.
asciilifeform: let's make a +ev pizarro 1st, lol
asciilifeform: amberglint: there's an unsold rk ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 ) machine at pizarro, waiting for somebody's sweet bl0g
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 18:14 asciilifeform: phf: imho the ultimate bolix caper would be to rack a coupla working clones at pizarro & rent'em out. but admittedly this is , presently, nearly as far as the moon
asciilifeform: phf: imho the ultimate bolix caper would be to rack a coupla working clones at pizarro & rent'em out. but admittedly this is , presently, nearly as far as the moon
danielpbarron: pingbacks never worked for me until i got on pizarro
trinque: BingoBoingo: might I suggest contacting some of the n00bs directly, here, and asking them what would make them a pizarro customer
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/11/25/pizarro-weekly-update-november-25th-2018/ << PizarroISP - Pizarro Weekly Update November 25th 2018
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun have any complaints about the firmness of sitters in the chair. even an indestructible , firmly in-the-black pizarro dun mean that 'put ALL boxes in 1 rack' is good idea, imho
trinque: asciilifeform: eh, give me stable management of pizarro how bout, and I'll sit down more firmly on the chair
asciilifeform: ( BingoBoingo : you do recall that yer the pizarro.fuhrer nao ! how are we doing re sealing that roof ?? )
mircea_popescu: what ~did~ you expect bitcoin/usd will do, if we're retreating on foundation, still not solved pizarro market communication a full year later, etcetera ?
trinque: looks like the migration to pizarro happens tonight for the bot.
mircea_popescu: what portion of teh 25% drop in bitcoin value in fiat have you managed to capture as notional pizarro stock appreciation ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873712 << but neveryoumind that. the drop in bitcoin is where pizarro shines, right ? because in between http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-24#457609 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825184 on one hand and wisely deploying http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-04#1445680 and so on has resulted in significant bitcoin appreciation of pizarro stock, right ? ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i admit that i sometimes miss the days when the amt of shit i gave re what the heathen exch rate is, was the size of a hamster's . pizarro is the 1 bone in throat on that score, it runs on heathenbux and consequently sensitive to the weather, like a bad knee
BingoBoingo: mod6: I started my ledger in the Pizarro notes on September 1st.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 05:30 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why does mod6's ledger show a transaction for 0.1 btc to you on august 12th and then back from you on august 17th? it doesn't affect the accounting, but i am perplexed as you both stated that your ledgers in these shared notes contained all of your pizarro transactions with noted exceptions that do not include that transaction.