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assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 23:38:18; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Sandisk, AMD, etc is all Samsung parts
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Sandisk, AMD, etc is all Samsung parts ☟︎
pete_dushenski: curious if asciilifeform is buying sandisk, samsung, intel(!), amd, or other ssd atm. ☟︎
trinque: old amd box
asciilifeform: amd g-series ultraminiature things
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: amd is not in wot, while we're at it
pete_dushenski: in computing terms, ^ would be like putting 256gb ecc ram, 16-core amd fx and gaming vid card in an ipad.
mats: amd is dying
BingoBoingo: mats: AMD tends to have ECC as an available option in all of their chips except the consumer stuff, and even then it usually isn't the chip where ECC is precluded.
asciilifeform: punkman: the g-series coreboot i have here has 'blobs' per the strictest definition, they are - iirc - modify but don't redistribute - licensed by amd
asciilifeform: according to the libreboot link, amd has fully caught up with intel in re: usgtronics.
asciilifeform: possibly other 'low-end' amd
punkman: asciilifeform: any devices with AMD G-series?
punkman: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd libreboot faq is handy
asciilifeform: fwiw, AMD's G-series chipset will run without blobs.
BingoBoingo: Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:51:50; ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: apparently amd actually started proving their alu with acl2, in reaction to the intel fdiv scandal
thestringpuller: this is amd 3400+
ascii_butugychag: (ditto intel & amd)
assbot: AMD Kabini Owners - Page 3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1RidjIW )
BingoBoingo: The random places you find Lennart truth http://www.overclock.net/t/1483429/amd-kabini-owners/20#post_22289112
ascii_butugychag: meanwhile... 'Spurious check failures happen for machines without ECC memory. Of our test systems, all machines with Intel CPUs as well as some AMD low-end systems lack ECC. This is a result of that AMD supports ECC generally while Intel only supports ECC for Xeon CPUs relying on more expensive motherboards. But the GMP project is struggling to afford even the cheapest hardware.'
asciilifeform: (loads in cache-as-ram mode on intel/amd)
pete_dushenski: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/selling-bottled-lake-louise-air-started-as-a-joke-but-theres-actually-a-lot-of-demand&pubdate=2015-12-17 << local kids selling chinese something only we have. soon : one can of fresh mountain air for one amd fx tower with 64 gb ecc plox.
asciilifeform: 'Permanently disabling AMD CPUs through compiler optimizations ensured AMD would not quickly retake this market share.' << wtf
asciilifeform: 'From 2003 until 2006, Intel paid $1 Billion to Dell in exchange not to ship any computers using CPUs made by AMD. Intel held OEMs ransom, encouraging them to only ship Intel CPUs by way of volume discounts and threatening OEMs with low-priority during CPU shortages. Intel engaged in false advertising, and misrepresenting benchmark results. '
assbot: Echo of the Bunnymen: How AMD Won, Then Lost | Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU425T )
BingoBoingo: Another one of these http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-won-then-lost/
fluffypony: making sure they don't run dangerous programs like the AMD CCC
jurov: "Others report that programs like CPU-Z, AMD Catalyst Control Center or CPUID were removed as well during the upgrade."
mircea_popescu: "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
assbot: AMD faces suit over alleged misrepresentation of new CPU | Legal News Line ... ( http://bit.ly/20DwY8I )
BingoBoingo: http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510646458-amd-faces-suit-over-alleged-misrepresentation-of-new-cpu
asciilifeform: and, iirc, the only modern cpu plant (amd's) outside of usa proper is in de (augsburg?)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308872 << yet. you know as well as i do that if amd were the sales leader, it WOULD. ☝︎
asciilifeform: intel, amd both.
asciilifeform: this is not untrue, but there is a key difference - FOR FUCKS SAKE AMD DOESN'T FORCE IT TO BE ON !
asciilifeform: 'But is the situation much different on AMD-based x86 platforms? It doesn’t seem so! The problems related to boot security seem to be similar to those we discussed in this paper. And it seems AMD has an equivalent of Intel ME also, just disguised as Platform Security Processor (PSP)'
asciilifeform: there is literally 1 paragraph devoted to amd: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field so apparently amd not on provider's list. you can live with supermicro ? or want to mail your own box ?
pete_dushenski: but asking toyota why they're providing isis with trucks is like asking amd why they're providing tmsr~ with chips and mobos, or asking boeing why they gave the 9/11ers planes.
assbot: ASUS RS500A-E6/PS4 1U Rackmount Server Barebone Dual Socket G34 AMD SR5650 DDR3 1600/1333/1066/800 - Newegg.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv3Vb7 )
mircea_popescu: what's your provider quote for a 32gb amd something with ~1tb hdd ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: what is wrong with stockpiling AMD opterons?
asciilifeform: amd co., the old gentle giant, is not long for this world. which leaves intel, which is a malignancy.
mircea_popescu: yeah, doubt the 1k a pop scenario is possible, amd never had good mb support.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: inb4 amd opterons are going for $1k a pop
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 15:28:09; pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281036 << amd is so fucked ;/ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 15:28:09; pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple."
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281036 << amd opteron is the single most precarious 'strategic good' in my particular household (can't speak for others) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple." ☟︎☟︎
phf: well, i have a 2.4 box that runs "if your dodgy stack fails, this must remain" operations, like email, sms, incidentally that is also last version i can find my way around (pretty sure massive amd/intel commit blogs came later), but it's impractical to use it as main system, unless you go to extreme measures of "my gimp 1.2 is as good as your photoshop" rms style
mircea_popescu: but now i write in english and people who know russian read and wtf amd i gonna do.
mircea_popescu has thinkpads. amd inside.
kakobrekla: i got a second mircorserver that will be another home node (amd, ecc, raid) that is on my bench waiting to be assembled for a couple of weeks now.
ascii_field: find me a 2007 amd opteron socket-1207 cpu on ali.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I'll never purchase another Lenovo product << try the X1?0e education series. Cheap AMD options available and honest tough plastic for those damned kids.
trinque: shinohai: are you on an amd something something?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-08-2015#1237791 << no blobs if you have a civilized (amd!) board. and the intel boards won't work, typically, even with blobs ☝︎
asciilifeform: to this i will add that pretty much anything with an amd on it will run.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: so amd is no cure for this nonsense ? and i'm guessing ppc is in the same boat ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237119 << howling idiocy. smm has been in the official docs, from intel and amd both, since 486. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: if this doesn't have you hunting the local classifieds for amd opterons and fxes, i dunno what will
punkman: works on AMD as well right?
shinohai: Shitty old AMD laptop: 1, Shiny pogo: 0
ascii_field: jurov: not ~decade-old amd
jurov: rly amd does not support? even via does
ascii_field: (amd)
assbot: SUPERMICRO MBD-H9SKV-420 Mini ITX Server Motherboard BGA 769 (FT3) AMD G-series SOC DDR3 1600 - Newegg.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCTBnt )
asciilifeform: this is only even theoretically usable for own code if you have a ~real~ (that is, amd, and 'coreboot'able) machine
BingoBoingo contemplating AMD A4-5000 machine as upgrade or complement to AMD 350 machine...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In Lenovo's X140e they have a version they brand on AMD's A4 line which seems like a die shrink of the E-350. I can't find anything on Liberating it though.
asciilifeform: and will only get rare, collectible, when amd is done dying
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/zaatharen/amd/APU/E350D_mobo.jpg << mine. the socketed eeprom is under the white 'e350m1' sticker above the pcie slot.
BingoBoingo: AMD E-350
BingoBoingo: processor is amd e350 so takes ~25-33% CPU utilization around the clock just keeping up with Bitcoin when sync'd
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 20:40:05; BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name
mircea_popescu: coming up next, "top 5 best program names for amd compatibility"
assbot: AMD Catalyst Linux Driver Performs Wildly Different Based On Program's Name - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OigmLK )
BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name ☟︎
ascii_field: 'In addition to the ACPI feature, remote wake-up (including AMD Magic Packet and Microsoft Wake-up frame) is supported in both ACPI and APM (Advanced Power Management) environments. To support WOL from a deep power down state (e.g., D3cold, i.e., main power is off and only auxiliary exists), the auxiliary power source must be able to provide the needed power... ...The RTL8111E supports Protocol offload. It offloads some
gernika: AMD only did one drug test, so just extended my internship there instead.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: probably physically smallest amd x86-64 is the 'pcengines' linked in earlier thread
trinque: seems otherwise like a good snag of amd hardware
asciilifeform: highest end amd mobo of ~8 yrs ago
asciilifeform: as is kcachegrind, openpat, amd's codeanalyst, and makeppgraph.
pete_dushenski: "Most of those new lines of code come from “the new amd gpu register description header”, code that Torvalds says comprises “41 per cent of the entire patch” and has created a “... somewhat odd situation where a single driver is about half of the whole rc1 in number of lines.”"
jurov: that does not mean i should set my amd quadcore aglow on the top of it
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Was recently gifted second laptop. Single core AMD 64bit atom-like processor. Testing stator 0.5.4 build, once sync'd will likely dick around with electrum server against a foundation build with aim of eventually setting up a dedi-box
asciilifeform: this is not an accident; amd hired away most of the old dec team who built alpha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181488 << this is doubly lulzy considering that i just pulled my dead tree 'amd x86-64 programmer's manual vol. 2' off the shelf, sept. '02 edition, and it defines 52 bits of valid pointer in 64-bit word... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "And that article Richard posted just seems to exist to stroke Apple's ego. I don't think I know a single artist who would choose to buy one of the new Mac Pros for their work, especially considering the premium you pay and their reliance on AMD hardware in a field dominated by nV and CUDA."
mircea_popescu: looks more like, "neither nvidia nor amd were willing to go into a intel-ms deal with fucking apple, because who the fuck do those assholes think they are and it's about time they figured out a) jobs is deads and b) if he weren't he'd be in jail ; meanwhile apple won't talk to intel or asus etc because they think they're too good to deal with lesser babka, and so they're saying fuck you to the entire modern computing g
BingoBoingo: 2009 vintage acer laptop, single core amd 64 proccessor 3GB ram.... Disadvantages: Huge
ascii_field: on account of amd's poor health, i see x86 as being very soon dead to me entirely
ascii_field: needless to say it's built around amd g-series chip. so when amd kisses good-bye, that's all for this box