1956578;1577843187;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/qntra-s-qntr-december-2019-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) December 2019 Report 1956579;1577876071;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/does-this-insanity-make-any-sense-whatsoever-to-anyone-at-all/ << Trilema -- Does this insanity make any sense whatsoever to anyone at all ? 1956580;1577892158;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/01/this-resonance-called-love/ << Ossa Sepia -- This Resonance Called Love 1956581;1577905614;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/illinois-residents-enter-2020-by-lining-up-for-herbal-remedy-to-forget-they-live-in-illinois/ << Qntra -- Illinois Residents Enter 2020 By Lining Up For Herbal Remedy To Forget They Live In Illinois 1956582;1577939865;trinque;BingoBoingo: tx dispatcher for deeds is back in action. I'll get the site generator pointed at the new stuff tomorrow. 1956583;1577940144;BingoBoingo;tyvm 1956584;1577992186;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/so-what-do-you-do-for-a-living-im-a-money-stylist/ << Trilema -- "So what do you do for a living ?" "I'm a money stylist." 1956585;1577998012;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/argentina-opens-new-year-with-debt-issue-despite-being-in-default/ << Qntra -- Argentina Opens New Year With Debt Issue Despite Being In Default 1956586;1578005183;mircea_popescu;meanwhile in old lulz, http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ 1956587;1578013765;mod6;is thewhet.net down for anyone else? 1956588;1578013915;mod6;Was just going to double-check this old blog-post link before adding it to my post: http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ 1956589;1578013923;mod6;Seems down for me. 1956590;1578013945;mod6;s/post/article/ 1956591;1578014198;whaack;mod6: it is down for me as well 1956592;1578014211;mod6;whaack: thx for testing. 1956593;1578014222;whaack;np 1956594;1578015169;mod6;!!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=lgs- 1956595;1578015170;deedbot;accepted: 1 1956596;1578015333;mod6;Ladies and Gentlemen, The Foundation report has been deeded, and placed here for review: http://thebitcoin.foundation/reports/btcf_address_201912.txt 1956597;1578015384;mod6;Now that my blog is back up and working (blog.mod6.net), I have a number of articles to write here in the next serveral days with further thoughts/details surrounding the items in the State of Bitcoin Address. 1956598;1578016443;BingoBoingo;mod6: Loading from here, but speed not great 1956599;1578016590;mod6;Alright, noted. I'll see what I can do about that in the next few days too. 1956600;1578016728;BingoBoingo;mod6: Sorry, was referring to thewhet.net. It's loading. 1956601;1578016890;mod6;Ooh, ok gotcha. Thx. 1956602;1578037006;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, actually, neither qntra nor thewhet load here ; nor is the dns working, try a dig. 1956603;1578037756;mircea_popescu;and in other wtf, hey lobbes does http://www.krankendenken.com/2019/12/paying-penance-for-walking-the-path-of-derealisation/?b=honestly%20a%20kind&e=slept#select work as intended for you ? 1956604;1578039258;mircea_popescu;also, happy new year! 1956605;1578042563;diana_coman;neither qntra.net nor thewhet.net load from here. 1956606;1578042968;mircea_popescu;it ain't me this time, the name's bought till 2025 1956607;1578044010;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/city-hall/ << Trilema -- City Hall 1956608;1578044183;hanbot;bimbo.club looks to be offline also. 1956609;1578047151;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu et al, reverted DNS to its previous setup and restarted that one daemon, now seems to be working. http://archive.is/kDYnA 1956610;1578049005;BingoBoingo;Blogs all appear to be back. Will read to see WTF happened to make spreading nameserving fall apart after ~2 days 1956611;1578059114;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/poached-eggs-in-refried-beans/ << Trilema -- Poached eggs in refried beans 1956612;1578071241;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/trump-orders-usg-strike-inside-baghdad-international-airport-quds-force-leader-killed/ << Qntra -- Trump Orders USG Strike Inside Baghdad International Airport Quds Force Leader Killed 1956613;1578076646;*;BingoBoingo will be re-reading docs on nsd. Logs suggest clock disagreement took down the group. 1956614;1578079749;jurov;!!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=9THJ 1956615;1578079751;deedbot;accepted: 1 1956616;1578090129;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-03#1956535 << looks to be working on my end. What are you seeing? 1956617;1578090130;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-03 07:54:24 mircea_popescu: and in other wtf, hey lobbes does http://www.krankendenken.com/2019/12/paying-penance-for-walking-the-path-of-derealisation/?b=honestly%20a%20kind&e=slept#select work as intended for you ? 1956618;1578090152;lobbes;and yes, happy new year (new decade?) all 1956619;1578090439;diana_coman;lobbes: technically new decade starts with 2021, doesn't it? 1956620;1578090762;lobbes;diana_coman: hm, but then what about, say, 0 A.D.? Wasn't that the start of the 'first' decade? 1956621;1578090860;diana_coman;they didn't have 0 a.d. at *that time* though, did they? 1956622;1578090931;diana_coman;iirc not even later actually ie it starts with 1 ad 1956623;1578090935;diana_coman;and ends with 1 bc so ... 1956624;1578090981;diana_coman;basically timestamps have always been a total mess. 1956625;1578091026;lobbes;diana_coman: woah, you are right; I had never realized that there is no year 0 in that calendar scheme 1956626;1578091153;lobbes;damn, indeed a mess. Humans just can't seem to measure time very well 1956627;1578096827;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/peso-watch-tourism-season-edition/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Peso Watch - Tourism Season Edition 1956628;1578129811;mircea_popescu;https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/eiskr6/i_was_reading_saifedeans_book_and_saw_mircea/ << meanwhile in outright batshing insane lulz from yet-another #asciilifeform 1956629;1578129899;mircea_popescu;this time walking dead neckbeard maxwell retconning history about how [http://trilema.com/2013/the-froth-of-our-days/][me ending #bitcoin-otc as a going concern] over their tolerance of inept pantsuitboy whiteknighting meanwhole became in the whiteknight's mind "me promoting outright child rape". 1956630;1578129929;mircea_popescu;leaving aside how this is speciically what i kicked out their boi [http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/][amir taaki] for. 1956631;1578130036;mircea_popescu;because totally, this is how the pantsuit "[http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/][sincere regret]" device works : gmaxwell is "sincerely sorry" about his 2011 "business" in his mind only wasting a buncha people's coins, therefore "mp largely slinked off into the shadows after one of his crappy businesses disappeared with people's coins". 1956632;1578130070;mircea_popescu;and so on ad nauseam, let's project all our issues on daddy, that'll totally build such a wunderbar world as nobody'll ever want to live in. 1956633;1578130323;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/04/notes-on-computer-graphics-transfer-vs-display/ << Ossa Sepia -- Notes on Computer Graphics - Transfer vs. Display 1956634;1578130344;diana_coman;mircea_popescu: ^ is my current answer for that a) vs b) choice. 1956635;1578130358;mircea_popescu;yay ty. 1956636;1578130382;diana_coman;heh, might end up triggering more discussion but at least I got something out of those days' reading & mulling. 1956637;1578130389;mircea_popescu;i'm out here reading through the bottom decile of the dcu rejected applications bucket. 1956638;1578130404;diana_coman;ahahah, I can see that. 1956639;1578130431;mircea_popescu;"Some traveled path splits at times into such directions that one gets to wonder all over again what choice really means." << incidentally, this is how you even know you're getting anywhere. 1956640;1578130441;mircea_popescu;the absence of this event ~= staying home. 1956641;1578130452;diana_coman;yeah, it's not ..the first time. 1956642;1578130455;mircea_popescu;:p 1956643;1578130478;diana_coman;lolz; I'll go to see to the child for a bit. 1956644;1578139639;hanbot;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956563 << i dunno what's more enraging; the mendacity, the projection, the indolent ignorance, the feebleness, or the marriage to platform. 1956645;1578139639;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-04 05:38:15 mircea_popescu: because totally, this is how the pantsuit "[http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/][sincere regret]" device works : gmaxwell is "sincerely sorry" about his 2011 "business" in his mind only wasting a buncha people's coins, therefore "mp largely slinked off into the shadows after one of his crappy businesses disappeared with people's coins". 1956646;1578142146;mircea_popescu;eh... 1956647;1578142211;mircea_popescu;i dunno, the part where people of reddit are grandstanding offa imaginary high moral grounds re imaginary "child porn"... whole fucking alt-trilema that's reddit exists because of their unmitigated love for child porn. if it weren't for that dedication, the spearhead of unlaid dorkitude'd still be called digg. 1956648;1578142246;mircea_popescu;i dunno how i enter into it ; but it's self-obvious that all the various would-be mini-republics will work the exact same way. they fucking have to, what. 1956649;1578142337;hanbot;you enter into it inasmuch as you won't play the fucking-with-the-margins-enacts-substantial-meaning game with them, and it threatens the conscience, so you've got to be evil/Really Bad/etc 1956650;1578142615;mircea_popescu;no, i understand why they have my poster up in the room or w/e. that, however, is where they enter into it. i'm over here. 1956651;1578142728;mircea_popescu;incidentally, it seems they're kinda stomping themselves over there, would-be #reddit alt-tmsr l1 is getting massacred in their attempt at creating a narrative. i guess it helps [http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thoughts-on-shrysr-leaving-younghands-and-asciilifeforms-excommunication/#comment-144][being persuasive], if you're gonna try and lord huh. 1956652;1578143295;diana_coman;I found it funnier re "trilema.com is word salad" tbh; I'm not sure there's much more to it than that though, not even sure what would "persuasive" mean in their context, exactly. 1956653;1578143582;mircea_popescu;diana_coman, the funny thing is that no trilema article is... i mean look at that junk, curl http://archive.is/L7xDs | wc -w > 6111 1956654;1578143637;mircea_popescu;these dudes wanna talk about word salad ?! it's like some crow living atop the city dump "criticizes" suburbia for disorderliness. i dunno a whole year of recent logs packs as much salad as they manage to stuff in those 6k misfortunate words. 1956655;1578143660;mircea_popescu;hanbot, did you ragequit lol 1956656;1578143716;diana_coman;mircea_popescu: that's why I find it funny; precisely because of this "it's so much further away than that, that we'll call it ...that; a sort of heat seeming cold and the other way around. 1956657;1578143764;mircea_popescu;apparently nature depends a lot more on ring buffers than anyone previously realised. 1956658;1578143892;hanbot;mircea_popescu: damned near. my tolerance for the sorta shit seems to have gone down. i need a hazmat suit or something (or a chill pill, heh). 1956659;1578144051;diana_coman;alternatively, it may also be that they simply take the words/expressions (word salad) (because ...well, they work, right?) and then they proceed to use them as it seems to them that it "should" be; (I kind of got to see this in action with that shrysr guy). 1956660;1578144129;hanbot;lol inferring the meaning of terms via one's own, forced context --the natural consequence of growing up on inferring meaning from the text's context! 1956661;1578144425;mircea_popescu;this is probably the case. 1956662;1578144469;mircea_popescu;i'd guess trying to read trilema without being actually literate (which specifically denotes the ability to follow emergent codification from the text) should be pretty fucking trippy. 1956663;1578144515;mircea_popescu;yeah, the more i think about it the more i'm persuaded : this is the problem, fellows got FIXED codecs, tryna apply them results in ~random noise within a few steps. 1956664;1578145235;diana_coman;mircea_popescu: your [http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/04/notes-on-computer-graphics-transfer-vs-display/#comment-7310][comment] seems to have gotten somehow mangled and/or truncated (it has a part that repeats)? 1956665;1578145269;diana_coman;re links from the logs, I should have added the content properly formatted with links included, indeed. 1956666;1578145309;diana_coman;so I'll fix that in a minute. 1956667;1578145646;diana_coman;fixed aka added the links to the text I cite in the article; the archive copy you provide is also useful as it further adds the refs on tarabostes. 1956668;1578146202;mircea_popescu;diana_coman, hm 1956669;1578146245;mircea_popescu;diana_coman, made a proper one, delete the mangled. 1956670;1578146396;diana_coman;done. 1956671;1578146597;mircea_popescu;ty 1956672;1578149972;feedbot;http://thewhet.net/2020/01/post-operative-gemini/ << The Whet -- Post-Operative Gemini 1956673;1578150014;BingoBoingo;!Qlater tell mod6 If you are still updating the node list on the trb site I've got: 143.202.160.10 in Costa Rica, 88.80.148.58 in Bulgaria, 192.151.158.26 in Kansas, and 205.134.172.4 in AlfRack running and sync'd. First three running 99999 version number, last running 70001 version number. 1956674;1578150058;BingoBoingo;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956595 << I encounter this all the time here, asking questions the locals never consider they'd be asked. 1956675;1578150058;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-04 09:39:35 mircea_popescu: yeah, the more i think about it the more i'm persuaded : this is the problem, fellows got FIXED codecs, tryna apply them results in ~random noise within a few steps. 1956676;1578150232;BingoBoingo;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956579 << It's as simple as gmaxwell killing -otc to try to prop up the actual USG kiddie pornists of Reddit for all of the nothing upvotes are worth. 1956677;1578150233;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-04 09:01:11 mircea_popescu: i dunno, the part where people of reddit are grandstanding offa imaginary high moral grounds re imaginary "child porn"... whole fucking alt-trilema that's reddit exists because of their unmitigated love for child porn. if it weren't for that dedication, the spearhead of unlaid dorkitude'd still be called digg. 1956678;1578150344;*;BingoBoingo returns to hammering the servers into serving names in sync 1956679;1578156201;billymg;lol re: reddit wank, looks like they nuked the only sane comment in the thread https://old.reddit.com/user/Hanna_Rosin -- 2nd comment ([http://archive.is/ApNdc][archived]) --> https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/eiskr6/i_was_reading_saifedeans_book_and_saw_mircea/fd2697f/ 1956680;1578161384;mod6;BingoBoingo: Cool! Updated. I take it you still have 192.187.99.74 too, or does that need to be removed from the list? 1956681;1578165457;BingoBoingo;mod6: Knock that one off 1956682;1578165831;BingoBoingo;mod6: Doesn't particularly look like any of the four made it on to the list I'm seeing from here https://archive.is/LY5zE 1956683;1578168731;mod6;Yeah, forgot to :wq the thing. Should be good to go now. 1956684;1578168878;BingoBoingo;mod6: ty 1956685;1578168885;mod6;np! 1956686;1578176331;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/civil-unrest-in-france-continues-as-macron-regime-remains-unpopular-usg-still-uninterested-in-this-low-hanging-regime-change-fruit/ << Qntra -- Civil Unrest In France Continues As Macron Regime Remains Unpopular, USG Still Uninterested In This Low Hanging Regime Change Fruit 1956687;1578179757;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/data-protection-journey-part-2-add-more-heat/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Data Protection Journey Part 2: Add More Heat 1956688;1578179825;BingoBoingo;^ In which I try to video. 1956689;1578192288;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/the-magics-of-cereal-boxes/ << Trilema -- The magics of cereal boxes 1956690;1578220420;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956606 << oh, you mean like in http://trilema.com/2015/argentina-for-business/?b=The%20administration&e=shit#select ? mmyeah. 1956691;1578220420;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-04 11:11:58 BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956595 << I encounter this all the time here, asking questions the locals never consider they'd be asked. 1956692;1578220501;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-04#1956611 << menalones tryna wannabe-republic with tools made out of cowpies & hay. 1956693;1578220502;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-04 12:54:22 billymg: lol re: reddit wank, looks like they nuked the only sane comment in the thread https://old.reddit.com/user/Hanna_Rosin -- 2nd comment ([http://archive.is/ApNdc][archived]) --> https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/eiskr6/i_was_reading_saifedeans_book_and_saw_mircea/fd2697f/ 1956694;1578220549;mircea_popescu;"what can you do", right ? the fact they're in the mud d oesn't mean they should get out, wash up, move to town (if it'll take 'em). the fact they're in the mud simply means all them high falootin' town things will have LOCAL EQUIVALENTS!!!! 1956695;1578220551;mircea_popescu;JUST AS GOOD!!!! 1956696;1578220585;mircea_popescu;wanna see their local clean room ? 100% built out of straw and mudpies ? clean to 10 ppk standard! it's just like ppb only with a k. 1956697;1578222538;hanbot;i don't think it's just as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TALK, like, to real faces, who 1956698;1578222538;hanbot; wants to handle that?! 1956699;1578225234;mircea_popescu;holy SHIT 1956700;1578225279;mircea_popescu;so apparently in php, != is a legitimate op in if expressions. = however, IS NOT. == MUST be used. 1956701;1578225285;mircea_popescu;who the fuck comes up with this shit 1956702;1578225381;mircea_popescu;hanbot, i suppose frances mcdormand is the consummate icon of this outlook. not just in fargo, remember that scene when she is unhappy with the level of service the soviet embassy is providing ? "I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! GIB MONYZ!!!" 1956703;1578225409;mircea_popescu;if it weren't for all their self-loathing, she'd be a lot more popular i guess. 1956704;1578225530;*;hanbot doesn't remember this scene, but the theme's recognizable generally. 1956705;1578225826;mircea_popescu;brad pitt had found some documents lol. "[http://trilema.com/2019/burn-after-reading/][burn after reading]". 1956706;1578228175;diana_coman;mircea_popescu: the = vs == is because of the confusion assignment vs comparison 1956707;1578228263;diana_coman;sure, inconsistent and annoying, there's no argument there. 1956708;1578228298;mircea_popescu;assignment in if clauses is probably the dumbest c-ism ever 1956709;1578228325;mircea_popescu;just denotes this utterly incorrect pile of mental processes, kids who cram before exams tend to think this way. 1956710;1578228340;mircea_popescu;but irl, the time to fatten the pig and the time to cut open the pig never overlap. 1956711;1578228413;diana_coman;sure, no argument there either; it is how the whole pile ends up that big and stinky and intricate, after all. 1956712;1578228561;diana_coman;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-05#1956629 - this is very much so as far as I have seen/heard it/even had it explained to me in as much detail as I could listen to, over and over again. 1956713;1578228561;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-05 07:20:03 hanbot: i don't think it's just as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TA 1956714;1578229764;mircea_popescu;uppity idiocy, the necessary result of welfarism. 1956715;1578230674;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/fixing-the-trilema-reference-base/ << Trilema -- Fixing the Trilema reference base. 1956716;1578233683;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yes, but they can derplock on the more mundane concepts like "How much time is this going to take?" and other frictions of the [http://trilema.com/2014/strange-things-people-think/][Sal Inglesa] variety 1956717;1578239661;mircea_popescu;aha 1956718;1578256289;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/iraqs-parliament-votes-for-removal-of-us-troops/ << Qntra -- Iraq's Parliament Votes For Removal Of US Troops 1956719;1578265409;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/week-1-2020-review-wrestling-with-nsd-after-standing-up-trb-nodes/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Week 1 2020 Review - Wrestling With NSD After Standing Up TRB Nodes 1956720;1578330713;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/us-defense-secretarys-chief-of-staff-resigns-iraq-threatened-with-sanctions-for-expelling-usg-troops/ << Qntra -- US "Defense" Secretary's Chief Of Staff Resigns Iraq Threatened With Sanctions For Expelling USG Troops 1956721;1578344352;feedbot;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3625 << Loper OS -- "Finite Field Arithmetic." Chapter 20: "Litmus", a Peh-Powered Verifier for GPG Signatures. 1956722;1578347996;mircea_popescu;incidentally lobbes , now that i'm back @travelbase or how shall i put this, shall we get back to the logger thing ? 1956723;1578348601;BingoBoingo;There are now weirdo evengelicals hyping "Madre Dios". Three short fat confused looking asians flagged me down near Plaza Independencia. I thought they wanted directions, but eventually it comes out that they wanted to tell me all about "Madre Dios" 1956724;1578348841;BingoBoingo;I'm not entirely sure they were all Asian, but I've also not seen the short sorts of Hispanics *ever* get as fat as those mayo glumps. 1956725;1578356302;mircea_popescu;meanwhile in very contrived lulz, https://abovethelaw.com/2018/05/biglaw-firm-accused-of-covering-up-for-hacker/ 1956726;1578356333;mircea_popescu;"The complaint, filed April 28th in the Southern District of New York, alleges that Tiversa was able to hack into LabMD using FBI surveillance tools. The real nut is LabMD’s allegation that Tiversa got its hands on the FBI tools from Buchanan. Back in 2007, when she was U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Pennsylvania, LabMD claims that Buchanan used the services of Tiversa in the prosecution of child pornograph 1956727;1578356333;mircea_popescu;ers and that’s how Tiversa received access to “FBI proprietary surveillance software and equipment,” which they then allegedly used for their own gain." 1956728;1578356648;mircea_popescu;replete with "qui tam" and every other sort of byzantine nonsense blackwater & the rest of cheney's merry gangs introduced into usgistani business as usual. 1956729;1578361159;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956654 << this week I've commited to getting a Gales install and report complete, however next week I was indeed going to work on the final setup and testing for the mp-wp logger. If all goes well I should be free to give it another shot on around the 20th of this month 1956730;1578361160;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-06 22:05:12 mircea_popescu: incidentally lobbes , now that i'm back @travelbase or how shall i put this, shall we get back to the logger thing ? 1956731;1578400082;mircea_popescu;works fine. 1956732;1578426594;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/sha1-collisions-get-cheaper/ << Qntra -- SHA1 Collisions Get Cheaper 1956733;1578430520;feedbot;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3636 << Loper OS -- "Finite Field Arithmetic." Chapter 20B: Support for Selected Ancient Hash Algos in "Litmus." 1956734;1578432780;BingoBoingo;In US Uni Lulz https://archive.is/QAbe4 "UMaine's College Republicans asked for her oversight shortly thereafter, when their previous adviser moved to another state. She agreed, but didn't last long. Fried resigned after a month, saying she wanted to disassociate with UMaine College Republicans’ hardline anti-immigration stance and use of social media to "get a rise out of people."" 1956735;1578445761;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/iran-declares-entire-usg-military-terrorists-begins-striking-terrorist-targets-hours-later/ << Qntra -- Iran Declares Entire USG Military Terrorists Begins Striking Terrorist Targets Hours Later 1956736;1578479780;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956652 / http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-07#1956667 so... logically speaking, after the betrayal in the middle east (because yes, the complete collapse of anything like usg foreign policy is very much the direct result of deliberate activity by incompetent, yes, but also very much disloyal blue elements), the us "military" is just about ready for a 2nd coup 1956737;1578479780;mircea_popescu;. 1956738;1578479780;mircea_popescu;after the original pantuitist "[http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/][kick out all competent colonels] because muh precious cuntlets", time for an erdogan-like "kick out [http://trilema.com/2017/color-revolutions-green-or-today-in-usg-corruption-careerism-cronyism-and-malfeasance-in-the-special-warfare-center/][the pantsuits]". 1956739;1578479780;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-06 13:23:06 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/us-defense-secretarys-chief-of-staff-resigns-iraq-threatened-with-sanctions-for-expelling-usg-troops/ << Qntra -- US "Defense" Secretary's Chief Of Staff Resigns Iraq Threatened With Sanctions For Expelling USG Troops 1956740;1578479780;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-07 21:20:42 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/iran-declares-entire-usg-military-terrorists-begins-striking-terrorist-targets-hours-later/ << Qntra -- Iran Declares Entire USG Military Terrorists Begins Striking Terrorist Targets Hours Later 1956741;1578479782;mircea_popescu;i suppose trump goes visits turkey, schimb de experienta. 1956742;1578481245;mircea_popescu;lol meanwhile dorion_road went silent [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/12/some-reasons-contributing-to-tmsr-os-is-ev/][sometime last month]. how goes, you ? 1956743;1578481389;mircea_popescu;wtf is this nonsense, first drastically overshoot, then get fatigued, then run away. there's a reason you don't http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110, and this'd be that reason. 1956744;1578481390;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-12 05:20:58 mp_en_viaje: it stops being cute when you start driving yourself nuts with it. how in god's own reddish hells are you supposed to say, aforehand, what [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/12/heading-tmsr-os/?b=Qualifications&e=contributing#select][the qualifications for contributing] are ? in the next two days, you're gonna produce that ? how ? 1956745;1578481889;diana_coman;spyked: I gave up and unsubscribed from trilema's comments, feedbot confirmed ( diana_coman is now unsubscribed from http://trilema.com/comments/feed/) and then 1 minute later, promptly fed me 2 more trilema comments; am I doing something wrong? 1956746;1578481898;diana_coman;by the looks of it, it's still going too, ugh. 1956747;1578482060;diana_coman;and uhm, now there's no trilema.com feed in the output of !1 list, neither for comments nor for posts, unless I'm somehow just not seeing it; weird stuff. 1956748;1578486361;mircea_popescu;oops 1956749;1578486450;mircea_popescu;on the good news front, tearing through 2018 nao, so shan't be long i don't expect. 1956750;1578487054;diana_coman;perhaps we further found some bug(s) in feedbot given the above so even more good news and fronts and all that! 1956751;1578487203;mircea_popescu;:p 1956752;1578490364;spyked;diana_coman, could you plox send me a transcript of your convo with feedbot? I wanna cross-check with what I have on my side. I think I got why the messages got sent after you unsubscribed, but it's weird that all trilema.com feeds would get removed (were you previously subscribed to anything other than the comments feed?) 1956753;1578490412;spyked;what happens is that the notifications can remain in the queue even after you unsubscribe, and there's usually some delay between when they get pushed and the time they're sent 1956754;1578490621;diana_coman;spyked: I was subscribed to both articles and comments feed afaik; let me rummage through old logs as I prolly have another earlier !1 list and will give you a paste of it all. 1956755;1578490649;spyked;ok, ty 1956756;1578490871;spyked;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-08#1956685 <-- imo this is indeed a bug, I think that subscription removal should be synchronous 1956757;1578490872;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-08 09:44:56 spyked: what happens is that the notifications can remain in the queue even after you unsubscribe, and there's usually some delay between when they get pushed and the time they're sent 1956758;1578491030;diana_coman;spyked: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=FtVi 1956759;1578491117;diana_coman;I looked back on previous !1 list and it seems there's no problem there actually aka indeed I had subscribed only to comments rss for trilema (weird but not the bot's fault) 1956760;1578491142;diana_coman;so it's just the async unsubscribe issue remaining; sorry for the false alarm on the other bit. 1956761;1578491225;diana_coman;also, by now it apparetly finished whatever it had queued since it's finally quiet; so the async as you describe it seems to fit. 1956762;1578491404;diana_coman;spyked: let me know if you need any other info from my end. 1956763;1578491470;*;spyked breathes relieved. just reread the unsubscribe code and it's conceived so that the bot only operates on exactly one feed when the command is issued. would have been very bad news to observe this kind of misbehaviour 1956764;1578491551;spyked;will have the async issue fixed and tested by the end of the week 1956765;1578492911;mircea_popescu;poor spyked's getting like the largest count of these, "sorry, turns out bot was ok" things 1956766;1578495027;spyked;lol. well, feedbot is still relatively young, glad it's getting some scrutiny 1956767;1578495129;BingoBoingo;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-08#1956668 << It *should* be ready, but... I suspect una falta de hombres to do anything at this point. Unless Donald's "Space Force" is some sort of jokey cover for returning to pre-tailhook aviation culture. 1956768;1578495129;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-08 06:47:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956652 / http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-07#1956667 so... logically speaking, after the betrayal in the middle east (because yes, the complete collapse of anything like usg foreign policy is very much the direct result of deliberate activity by incompetent, yes, but also very much disloyal blue elements), the us "military" is just about ready for a 1956769;1578495645;mircea_popescu;so he can get the arizona ranchers getting free govt dole, instead of the ohio horseface whatsername wanna-be careerwomen 1956770;1578495773;BingoBoingo;Sure, but they'd have to be brought in. I dunno if the US military has anyone loyal in uniform today above E-5 or O-2 1956771;1578495900;mircea_popescu;by the pantsuit favourite metric tho, ie headcount, nobody above e2 counts anyway 1956772;1578496032;BingoBoingo;I though the bulk of the headcount sat at E-4. It's the "auto-promotions end, so you sit here until your contract expires" rank 1956773;1578496046;mircea_popescu;besides, he's supreme commander. he literally can do ~anything~ in the army, including appointment of corporals. 1956774;1578496060;BingoBoingo;Make Brevet Great Again! 1956775;1578496070;mircea_popescu;much like the entire lulz with "impeachment" six or seven versions ago, back when it was "mishandling of secret documents", 1956776;1578496094;mircea_popescu;idiots accidentally forgot "secret" strictly means "in keeping with this one guy's faith", he can do anything he wants whatsoever, you're stuck doing exactly what he expects. 1956777;1578496103;BingoBoingo;Well, impeachmet is still "President can't overrule bureaucracy on Foreign Policy" coup attempt 1956778;1578496117;mircea_popescu;i expect they similarily forgot he can literally do absolutely anything whatoever in the military, up to and including authoring drill manuals. 1956779;1578496139;mircea_popescu;yea, that pretty much sums up the current struggle, yeah. 1956780;1578496155;BingoBoingo;The impeachment thing from here reads pretty much strictly "Presidency as such dies for the bureaucracy" 1956781;1578496174;mircea_popescu;hence the necessary result of "bureaucracy is thereby disenfranchised irl" 1956782;1578496234;mircea_popescu;anyway, this is the sad result two centuries worth of asciilifeformism have wrought. and apparently the imbecile "smart" kids are still not quite ready to wake up in any sort of numbers. 1956783;1578496258;mircea_popescu;cuz muh pantry & muh p. cuntlet, or some dumb shit. 1956784;1578496338;mircea_popescu;i suppose the alternative read counts from the manhattan project onwards, so it's only 70-odd years, one third the timespan. but neways. 1956785;1578496392;BingoBoingo;Well, we can probably put Vannevar Bush's name on "empowered Engineers into sinking empire" 1956786;1578496428;mircea_popescu;i wonder if anyone to date's noticed the entire hsitory of pop culture, 1950-onwards, all the comics / superheroes / etc fiction is entirely an attempt at retelling that history in the proper (ie, alternate) form from a pantsuit point of view 1956787;1578496464;mircea_popescu;"what if the scientists didn't give the bomb to the bureaucracy, but to the president ???" "oh it'd have been so SO very bad!! SUPERCRIMINALVILLAINS" "you mean, actual vir-ile, men ?" "YEAH!!!" 1956788;1578496472;mircea_popescu;"aite, go-go-captain-shorts-over-pants" 1956789;1578496532;BingoBoingo;The few I've seen in the wild that notice this seem to mostly fall into the "Pop-culture was a KGB psyop" camp 1956790;1578496669;BingoBoingo;Before I came to Uruguay I was somewhat inclined to that, but being here and seeing how the retards down here created their own Pantsuits... seems more like what follows from mass distribution of franchise. Mass culture develops, and it ain't much of a culture at all. 1956791;1578503389;dorion; http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-08#1956674 << I returned to Panama Monday from [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-09#1954678][travels] and was quite jet lagged and sleep deprived. I was pleasantly surprised to have a lot of fun on the cruise, hawaii was a lot nicer than I expected. 1956792;1578503389;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-08 07:12:08 mircea_popescu: lol meanwhile dorion_road went silent [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/12/some-reasons-contributing-to-tmsr-os-is-ev/][sometime last month]. how goes, you ? 1956793;1578503389;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-09 17:40:53 dorion_road: I'll be traveling dec 25-jan 6 with potentially good internet, but unknown at present; I'm going on a cruise. january 6th I'll be back in Panama. 1956794;1578503414;dorion;I've been paying off sleep debt and settling back in here, ready to get caught up and cracking again. 1956795;1578503492;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-08#1956675 << establishing a more sustainable and consistent pattern is a top priority atm. 1956796;1578503493;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-08 07:14:33 mircea_popescu: wtf is this nonsense, first drastically overshoot, then get fatigued, then run away. there's a reason you don't http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110, and this'd be that reason. 1956797;1578503599;dorion;I sent some [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-06#1014841][updates] in #o, realizing now I ought to have done that here. 1956798;1578503599;ossabot;(ossasepia) 2020-01-06 dorion: is back on the ground in panama. I'll voice in #t after some sleep. 1956799;1578506603;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/trump-and-usg-respond-to-iranian-missiles-with-sanctions/ << Qntra -- Trump And USG Respond To Iranian Missiles With SANCTIONS! 1956800;1578508440;mircea_popescu;dorion, o yeah, huh, hawaiicruisin'. good for you. 1956801;1578574336;mircea_popescu;dis "2020 1956802;1578574343;mircea_popescu;dis "2020" business looks quite odd indeed. 1956803;1578574356;*;mircea_popescu remembers when 2000 seemed rather improbable a year 1956804;1578575449;diana_coman;hm, I never had any trouble with year numbers; since they seem to me quite arbitrary anyway. At most I wondered on accumulated years (ie 20+ seemed rather improbable! then ..30+! lol) 1956805;1578580589;BingoBoingo;!Qlater tell trinque Do you have a timeline for when deedbot.org will update to include newer submissions? 1956806;1578580590;lobbesbot;BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. 1956807;1578583931;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/warner-brothers-signs-computer-to-make-decisions-for-them/ << Qntra -- Warner Brothers Signs Computer To Make Decisions For Them 1956808;1578585559;mircea_popescu;lol, it's happening. 1956809;1578585724;BingoBoingo;There's another Qntra baking, and it is lulzy 1956810;1578587778;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/paul-krugman-appears-to-have-been-downloading-child-porn/ << Qntra -- Paul Krugman Appears To Have Been Downloading Child Porn 1956811;1578588063;mircea_popescu;aaaahahahaha 1956812;1578588091;mircea_popescu;from derping pompously about bitcoin to being unpersoned in pantsuitlands, five years. 1956813;1578588267;mircea_popescu;[http://trilema.com/2014/dear-derps-you-are-being-herded/#footnote_0_57013][footnote one] on that first link goes remarkably well with [http://thimbron.com/2020/01/universally-preferable-behavior/#comment-59][thimbronion's tribulations], come to think of it. 1956814;1578588268;BingoBoingo;Seriously, 2020's starting out with some high density lulz. 1956815;1578588318;mircea_popescu;seriously, trump is starting to look even worse than the previous monkey. 1956816;1578588334;mircea_popescu;i mean, bahamas era was just TALKING about taking bombs up ass. not actually doing it. 1956817;1578588421;BingoBoingo;Well, he's the clown that happened to have outlived the the betters from his class. 1956818;1578588548;BingoBoingo;Or after 3 years of swamp he's plumbed the depths enough to decide the only way to cut the bureaucracy is by outsourcing the job to Iran. 1956819;1578588666;BingoBoingo;Great Again three years in might mean Albany has to revert to being some sort of frontier outpost, roughly a dozen in population. 1956820;1578588993;BingoBoingo;I'm thinking about how many folks Trump already rotated through his cabinet. If the biomass is of such poor quality that out of a third of a billion, Mike Pompeo is the best candidate for Madame Decretary... Wat do? 1956821;1578589139;BingoBoingo;Trump's answer might be "Well, maybe the biomass has to keep taking bombs in the ass until it turns into some harder shit?" 1956822;1578589709;BingoBoingo;Anyways, not worth Qntra is Krugman's turn now to waving around the empty threat bitcoin ransom or your nudes get published spam as evidence of "hackers" 1956823;1578591129;mircea_popescu;pretty desultory nudes, at that. 1956824;1578591264;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, no. I mean there's a flavor of spam email now that says "I've been watching you jack off through your computer's webcam. Pay X USD to Y BTC address" where the address has never been paid before, but its always one out of the same same handful of addresses. 1956825;1578591265;mircea_popescu;most of the humiliation coming from the [http://trilema.com/2017/%D0%9A%D1%82%D0%BE-%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8/?b=article%20was%20&e=%20not#select][Кто ты по жизни?] line, "how come your nudes lag so much behind trilema ? i thought you were supposed to be cool and like, notable and shit ?". 1956826;1578591298;mircea_popescu;kinda like that ass-rockey dweeb, but lamer. 1956827;1578591494;BingoBoingo;In other news I have a fan with a Vancouver?! IP, http://qntra.net/2020/01/warner-brothers-signs-computer-to-make-decisions-for-them/#comment-154893 1956828;1578606145;mircea_popescu;aww. 1956829;1578618876;feedbot;http://bimbo.club/2020/01/gin-gin-flex-on-them/ << Bimbo Club -- Gin-gin flex on them. 1956830;1578658017;mircea_popescu;incidentally, since trinque seems to have disappeared since http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/#comment-136 : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/eulora/2020-01-10#1001231 might be of interest. 1956831;1578658017;ossabot;(eulora) 2020-01-10 mircea_popescu: in the end, we painfully and i suppose expensively re-traced a point that was well (and very cheaply) established [http://trilema.com/2016/eulorangement/?b=Getting%20back%20to%20the%20management&e=entice#select][by 2016] : "The dispositive concern wasn't that the codebases selected are good ; rather it was that they are merely very, very, veryveryVERY dirty ; whereas the supposed cleanner substitutes aren't actually any 1956832;1578665758;trinque;BingoBoingo: probably get it done this weekend. 1956833;1578665759;lobbesbot;trinque: Sent 23 hours and 39 minutes ago: Do you have a timeline for when deedbot.org will update to include newer submissions? 1956834;1578665766;BingoBoingo;trinque: ty 1956835;1578665812;trinque;mircea_popescu: haven't disappeared anywhere. next post requires more research to support the claims I'm making. 1956836;1578665844;trinque;trying to land that one this weekend too 1956837;1578665900;trinque;busybox isn't competing for space with one item; it's competing with many. 1956838;1578676005;mircea_popescu;cool. 1956839;1578686709;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/vulnerabilities-found-in-broadcom-spectrum-analyzer-widely-deployed-in-cable-modem-chips/ << Qntra -- Vulnerabilities Found In Broadcom Spectrum Analyzer Widely Deployed In Cable Modem Chips 1956840;1578686973;BingoBoingo;In local news, no one could have predicted dealing with Mandarin speakers would be [http://archive.is/zzpEz][such a puzzle for Latinos] 1956841;1578709337;dorion;bvt I left a [http://bvt-trace.net/2019/12/gales-installation-report/#comment-106][comment] that's in your mod queue. 1956842;1578714409;dorion;spyked I left a [http://thetarpit.org/2019/bootloading-operating-systems#comment-205][comment] that's in your mod queue. 1956843;1578764804;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/11/euloras-client-012b-and-deps/ << Ossa Sepia -- Eulora's Client 0.1.2b and Deps 1956844;1578771404;mircea_popescu;yeah, speaking of which, hey Mocky what became of your site with all the mockybot stuff ? 1956845;1578771651;Mocky;getting it back up this weekend 1956846;1578771756;mircea_popescu;win. 1956847;1578774843;feedbot;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3646 << Loper OS -- "Finite Field Arithmetic." Chapter 20C: Support for 'Clearsigned' GPG texts in "Litmus." 1956848;1578777803;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/evidence-that-us-cellular-network-operators-dont-actually-own-their-networks-continues-mounting/ << Qntra -- Evidence That US Cellular Network Operators Don't Actually Own Their Networks Continues Mounting 1956849;1578780308;dorion;trinque your blog appears to have stripped the html tags and links from my [http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-147][comment] , here's the original http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=HL7P 1956850;1578830821;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/eulora-changes-or-hey-diana_coman/ << Trilema -- Eulora changes, or "Hey diana_coman..." 1956851;1578846937;dorion;mircea_popescu in light of never moving off [http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/#comment-136][linux 2.x series], it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from [http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/?b=Linux%20version%20is&e=4.9.95#select][4.9.95] it currently sits on to 2.x. 1956852;1578846990;dorion;perhaps it's not an immediate priority, but I'd like to clarify the path forward. 1956853;1578849703;dorion;!!seen ave1 1956854;1578849703;deedbot;2019/11/18 15:31:56 spyked, lobbes. Thx! 1956855;1578850072;dorion;ave1 do you actually want [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951497][to own gcc] ? or do we need to move on ? ~60 days silence, with unanswered intermittent [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-09#1954649][probings] seems to indicate the latter, unfortunately. 1956856;1578850072;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1: As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point. 1956857;1578850072;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-09 16:35:17 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-27#1953688 << hey ave1, how goes ? have you been following along the tmsr os thread ? I've assumed you want to continue with your gcc work and own it, is that still the case ? 1956858;1578850073;ericbot;Logged on 2019-11-27 18:40:49 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951499 << hey ave1, how goes ? has there been a delivery date set on this ? 1956859;1578850073;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-17 12:42:50 ave1: I was genesing it, and will continue to do so. But with feedback in the loop. So, for example, gcc comes with an old STL html documentation tree, can this be dropped? (I would say yes) 1956860;1578850488;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956783 << well, or at the very least comment on it. 1956861;1578850488;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-12 12:47:24 dorion: mircea_popescu in light of never moving off [http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/#comment-136][linux 2.x series], it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from [http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/?b=Linux%20version%20is&e=4.9.95#select][4.9.95] it currently sits on to 2.x. 1956862;1578851127;dorion;mircea_popescu comment on major/important changes between linux 2.x and 4.9.95 ? 1956863;1578851143;mircea_popescu;you're not serious, are you ? 1956864;1578851223;mircea_popescu;between 2.4 and 2.6 the principal change is how kernel modules get loaded (they were actually linked pre 2.6). 1956865;1578851255;mircea_popescu;between 2 and 4 the difference simply is "2 was a linux kernel, 4 is treasonable atrocity built atop 3, which is how you say '''mike hearn''' in linux" 1956866;1578851456;mircea_popescu;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess. 1956867;1578851462;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Qntra's "hold if comment contains X or more links" filter has been lifted to arbitrarily high number [http://qntra.net/2020/01/evidence-that-us-cellular-network-operators-dont-actually-own-their-networks-continues-mounting/#comment-155353][so these gems] stop getting held in the moderation line. 1956868;1578851473;dorion;mircea_popescu re seriousness, I know it'd be a helluva lot, but I don't imagine porting his work from 4.9.95 to 2.x isn't trivial either. I should've asked, comment how ? 1956869;1578851499;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, i confess i am vaguely concerned by this for myself ; apparently i can't sit down to write anything even half-serious without dozen+ references by now. 1956870;1578851529;mircea_popescu;dorion, of course it's trivial, he doesn't use any of the pestilent doohickeys. he could port it to most 1series also. 1956871;1578851551;mircea_popescu;this is in no small part due to how alf thinks, he's remarkably exceptional at this side of things. 1956872;1578851664;dorion;mircea_popescu I see, nice. today I learned. 1956873;1578851784;bvt;mircea_popescu: moving to 2.6 kernel will be interesting experience wrt. newer hardware. 2.6.32 was one of the better-patched ones, could try to use that. otoh, the machine i am writing from requires 2.6.38 minimum for full hardware. 1956874;1578851829;bvt;*full hardware support 1956875;1578851994;bvt;porting rng to 2.6 kernel should indeed be not too hard, the only thing i may need adaptation is kfifo api (iirc it's api changed at some point, which may break the code) 1956876;1578852011;dorion;bvt wrt to newer hardware, did you see [http://thetarpit.org/2019/bootloading-operating-systems#comment-201][get a dozen or two alternatives, let the rest wither] ? 1956877;1578852094;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I am inclined to attribute this in part to your use of technology to dive into what seems to be historically uncharted territory as far as extreme literacy goes. 1956878;1578852506;bvt;dorion: in this case, picking 2.6 will not be a problem, of course 1956879;1578852754;mircea_popescu;bvt, i dunno man, commodity servers to this day come on 2.6, random sample turned out 100% 1956880;1578852777;mircea_popescu;unless by newer hardware you mean who knows what random home luser dongle. 1956881;1578852933;mircea_popescu;but the cost to replace that is minimal, i mean... oh, so your video card doesn't work no mo ? awww, splurge on 50 bux, which as per latest j-lo self-promotion 1hr long advertisement incomprehensibly packaged as "a movie" ain't even enough to START the moneycount. 1956882;1578853008;mircea_popescu;skip trying to buy a coupla shots for whatever rando hobag at the club next time, get yourself a working peripheral [see all the hobags in history naked-er and working it more excitedly anyways]. 1956883;1578853052;mircea_popescu;it's not clear to me how i'd actually go about computing the value-add of supporting whatever config isn't self-supporting ; but it seems indisputable it's under the cost of five second's labour. making the matter not even work considering, let alone discussing. 1956884;1578854205;dorion;trinque html stripped from [http://trinque.org/2019/12/29/a-republican-os-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-148][comment] again, here's original : http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3p4J 1956885;1578854822;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956798 << just the simple string "lts" makes my skin crawl 1956886;1578854822;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-12 14:02:44 mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess. 1956887;1578882841;trinque;thanks dorion, fixed your comments and shipped 'em out. 1956888;1578882943;dorion;trinque thank you, really diggin your series. 1956889;1578883002;trinque;will process all these comments and reply soon, after the next article is posted, but I'm glad to hear that these have been valuable. 1956890;1578883173;trinque;also good to know that gcc >4.7.4 incurs a c++ compiler in the bootstrap process. way, way better to have reasons for where we stop than "eh, I got tired and sat down here" 1956891;1578883182;trinque;seems like we're not far apart at all in our views on these things. 1956892;1578883276;dorion;trinque agreed. 1956893;1578892009;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610884.txt 1956894;1578892281;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610885.txt 1956895;1578892284;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956896;1578892287;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956897;1578892290;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956898;1578892293;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956899;1578892295;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956900;1578892299;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956901;1578892303;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956902;1578892306;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956903;1578892309;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956904;1578892318;trinque;ah bother. 1956905;1578892387;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt 1956906;1578893313;trinque;ok, !!deed is 100% back in action. 1956907;1578893426;deedbot;http://deedbot.org/bundle-612615.txt 1956908;1578904262;feedbot;http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/ << billymg -- MP-WP Patch Viewer and Code Shelf 1956909;1578904265;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/week-2-2020-review-a-very-qntra-week/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Week 2 2020 Review - A Very Qntra Week 1956910;1578921754;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/13/notes-on-computer-graphics-a-map-of-sorts/ << Ossa Sepia -- Notes on Computer Graphics - A Map of Sorts 1956911;1578934692;feedbot;http://thetarpit.org/2020/2019-in-review << The Tar Pit -- 2019 in review 1956912;1578938229;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/rhodium-prices-nearing-2008-highs/ << Qntra -- Rhodium Prices Nearing 2008 Highs 1956913;1578938754;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/13/a-puppet/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Puppet 1956914;1578941233;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Now that [http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt][the deeds] have gone through how would you like to [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-23#1955985][move forward]? 1956915;1578941234;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-23 11:55:42 mp_en_viaje: do that ; add to it a plain statement of your involvement, and we can take it from there. 1956916;1578941269;BingoBoingo;The MPEx stat without the measures GPG takes to fuck clearsigned inside clearsigned is also available [http://bingology.net/wp-content/uploads/mike_c_case/mpexstat.txt][here] 1956917;1578944562;feedbot;http://bimbo.club/2020/01/exposition/ << Bimbo Club -- Exposition 1956918;1578945436;dorion;heya trinque , did you ever say hi to, rod smith, the rEFInd fellow ? I'd be glad to take that up, but don't wanna innundate the dood if you already did or want to. 1956919;1578965020;trinque;dorion: nope, get at him 1956920;1578965024;*;trinque brb 1956921;1579004628;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-13#1956846 << awww man, why the fuck did you bundle all these together ? so it's really REALLY hard to go through them, have to edit files by hand to cut in pieces, can't use automated processes etc ? nuts. 1956922;1579004629;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-13 14:59:07 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Now that [http://deedbot.org/bundle-610890.txt][the deeds] have gone through how would you like to [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-23#1955985][move forward]? 1956923;1579004648;*;mircea_popescu brb fucking with editors now. in the future plox, for the love of all that's holy -- one deed per signed item. 1956924;1579005302;mircea_popescu;alright, so i can say that indeed 123.29494813‬ BTC is a legit claim as per all the foregoing discussion. 1956925;1579005433;mircea_popescu;The GPG we inherited fucks clearsigned text blocks inside a larger text block being clearsigned as it is clearsigned for reasons that appear to be related to retardation. << well theoretically it's related to in-band signalling, but practically it was too hard to have a proper parser, take CLOSING signature as the signature, had to have 1step parser which "does not know what to do" if it encounters five dashes mid-documen 1956926;1579005433;mircea_popescu;t. 1956927;1579005435;mircea_popescu;whatevs. 1956928;1579005443;mircea_popescu;the header format's going away anyways. 1956929;1579005538;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, aite, it's inconvenient for me to send three digit payments off travel infrastructure ; i intend to clear this once back home, should be by end of march. 1956930;1579006014;mircea_popescu;i will want a full release ready to go concomitantly, so if your client isn't liable to be around then maybe deed it prior. 1956931;1579006177;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Aite, I'll inform the client. 1956932;1579006187;*;BingoBoingo will 1 deed per item in the future 1956933;1579006323;mircea_popescu;(other than the formatting point above, i will further mutter in sottovoce that my first reaction, driven WEEKS AGO by what i had originally heard off the grapevine, was along the lines of "oh, i remember now who mike_c is, he's this character you can't stay angry with, try as you might", and offering to add half your fee to the pot, because while it's not the case patron shouldn't make money, it's also not the case client 1956934;1579006323;mircea_popescu; should end up paying 45 out of 123. for some reason known to you only, you managed to insulate your client from that outcome however. maybe time to review cerebral impactions getting in the way of living ?) 1956935;1579006418;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Aite. 1956936;1579022719;feedbot;http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ << mod6's Blog -- Physical Specifications for The Bitcoin Foundation's Servers 1956937;1579027934;feedbot;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3657 << Loper OS -- "Finite Field Arithmetic." Chapter 20D: "Litmus" Errata: Support for Nested Clearsigned Texts. 1956938;1579035989;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/14/notes-on-computer-graphics-formats-exporters-and-blendering/ << Ossa Sepia -- Notes on Computer Graphics: Formats, Exporters and Blendering 1956939;1579037612;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/ar-15-design-feature-ends-up-killing-disarmament-cases-brought-by-anti-commerce-usg-prosecutors/ << Qntra -- AR-15 Design Feature Ends Up Killing Disarmament Cases Brought By Anti-Commerce USG Prosecutors 1956940;1579053784;billymg;mircea_popescu, diana_coman: responded to comments http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-76 1956941;1579057424;mircea_popescu;motherfucker 1956942;1579057480;mircea_popescu;so i'm about to quote http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/ in a discussion with billymg ; except i discover the fucking http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000151.html link is meanwhile broken. 1956943;1579057539;mircea_popescu;because that's why i do these sorts of things, so a few years later i can discover hurr durr etcetera. i might as well link fucking pantsuit sites, they purge their linkstructure every four years also. 1956944;1579063057;mod6;Sorry about that, let me see if I can remedy that quick here. 1956945;1579064366;mod6;Ok, I think I've got it. The old mailman thing was weird, my apologies. Please let me know if anyone sees any more broken links in there. But seems to work ok for me, currently. 1956946;1579069410;billymg;mircea_popescu: left a reply 1956947;1579069435;*;billymg goes off to bed 1956948;1579079558;mircea_popescu;mod6, here also. 1956949;1579100216;mod6;Thanks, mp. 1956950;1579101298;diana_coman;http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-75 - mircea_popescu, I never quite understood why detached sigs for vpatches in the first place; I kind of got the idea that it was so that there is no need for sync on signing (no possible clash of the sort A and B sign independently same thing and then one needs to re-sign so as not to end with 2 versions of same vpatch?) 1956951;1579101327;diana_coman;hardly seems worth it though for that sort of case and I don't quite have any other clear reason for detached sig on vpatches. 1956952;1579105709;mircea_popescu;as best i can retrospectively determined, it mostly flew from alf's principled stance on in-band comms that nobody rose to challenge so it sorta became a de-facto unexamined basis. 1956953;1579105745;mircea_popescu;self-evident nonsense, i've yet to meet the lang without support for comments, and for as long as a single comment line's left anywhere that line will mandatorily read The Republic prevails. 1956954;1579105764;mircea_popescu;so no actual meat on those bones. but, the thing with scarecrows is, for as long as you don't look, they can count for the census. 1956955;1579106743;diana_coman;hm, I suppose it could be argued that the root is deeper perhaps, all the way to "code is not text" vs "code IS text". 1956956;1579108131;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/usg-nsa-and-microsoft-push-emergency-windows-crypto-update-while-depreciating-windows-7/ << Qntra -- USG.NSA And Microsoft Push "Emergency" Windows Crypto Update While Depreciating Windows 7 1956957;1579108283;mircea_popescu;i guess. 1956958;1579109540;*;mircea_popescu meanwhile re-reading http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ ; it shoots from history, from a point midway osama bin laden's decerebration strike on the us and today's redditard notion of "[http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/?b=have%20been%20behaving&e=badly#select][evil financial elites]". 1956959;1579109599;mircea_popescu;who fucking knew that killing all the smart people doing finance in the us was going to leave all the morons to "fill in the gap" ? an' who knew that competitive advantage was the last hail mary / hopeful girder propping the us sorta-upright on the waters ? 1956960;1579109617;mircea_popescu;well, everyone, up to and including goatherders in afghanistan, apparently. hurr. 1956961;1579114251;feedbot;http://bvt-trace.net/2020/01/re-pbrt/ << bvt's backtrace -- Re PBRT 1956962;1579118690;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-13#1956851 << sent email saying hi. 1956963;1579118691;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-13 21:35:35 trinque: dorion: nope, get at him 1956964;1579124744;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/argentina-getting-pissy-with-uruguay-envy/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Argentina Getting Pissy With Uruguay Envy 1956965;1579184053;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/16/crystalspace-creating-factories-and-meshes-setting-the-client-down/ << Ossa Sepia -- CrystalSpace: Creating Factories and Meshes, Setting the Client Down 1956966;1579190946;feedbot;http://thetarpit.org/2020/work-plan-for-m1-2020 << The Tar Pit -- Work plan for M1 2020 1956967;1579204662;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/pantsuit-nancy-finally-forwards-impeachment-to-senate/ << Qntra -- Pantsuit Nancy Finally Forwards Impeachment To Senate 1956968;1579271552;mircea_popescu;http://bvt-trace.net/2020/01/re-pbrt/<< keks, turns out gfx got bvt into computering in the first place huh 1956969;1579272313;diana_coman;good I wrote that CG map article that got him to even talk about it though, huh; now how do I guess what *else* might hit something in the dark like that? 1956970;1579274207;mircea_popescu;from what i've noticed, about 33% of everything. 1956971;1579274215;mircea_popescu;hence the "WRITE!!11!" 1956972;1579274262;diana_coman;ahaha; and if it's not ~33%, it will still be some % so the more writing the better anyway, sure; lolz. 1956973;1579274475;mircea_popescu;i understand it's not credible ; but it's nevertheless true, i swearz. 1956974;1579275003;mircea_popescu;meanwhile in wtf crazy shit, [http://www.kongregate.com/games/TheGrandestine/chess-evolved-online][arbitrary chess]. wanna play with "nullmage" instead of bishop ? go right ahead. maybe a teleport ? poison ? 1956975;1579275011;mircea_popescu;shit's mindblowing. 1956976;1579286583;hanbot;hey mircea_popescu there's some kinkish noobgirl potential in #trilema-hanbot. not going to suggest she pm you, naturally; feel like coming by to say hello? 1956977;1579287418;mircea_popescu;lol check it out, #t-hb poppin 1956978;1579302930;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/oracle-appears-to-join-microsoft-in-re-keying-nsa-backdoors-with-334-security-patches-in-dump/ << Qntra -- Oracle Appears To Join Microsoft In Re-Keying NSA Backdoors With 334 "Security" Patches In Dump 1956979;1579303648;feedbot;http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/stasis/ << Krankendenken -- Stasis 1956980;1579342914;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/18/moonlit-ideals/ << Ossa Sepia -- Moonlit Ideals 1956981;1579347368;mircea_popescu;hmm lobbes no select on krankendenken ? 1956982;1579347617;mircea_popescu;and incidentally, did you run into [http://fetlife.com/users/1840564][this one] ? 1956983;1579348125;mircea_popescu;!!seen ave1 1956984;1579348125;deedbot;2019/11/18 15:31:56 spyked, lobbes. Thx! 1956985;1579348560;mircea_popescu;!!key diana_coman 1956986;1579348561;deedbot;http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc 1956987;1579372481;mircea_popescu;in other news, pretty great [http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/stasis/][lobbes piece]. my one curiosity is "what if this had come out back when, say, phf could still have read it", as a forinstance ; but then again as the man says : the next girls will be trained properly. 1956988;1579372652;mircea_popescu;(conversely, of course, one could also wonder "what'd have come of that pet had her ower pointed out to her "look, [http://trilema.com/2018/meet-miss-piggy/][this] is the illustrated story of a woman your age who left behind a career a coupla notches higher than mine to be used properly." but, as the man says, it's never too fucking late. until they turn 30, of course, if you've not started fixing them by they time they tu 1956989;1579372652;mircea_popescu;rn 25 you'll be stuck changing them by the time they turn 30.) 1956990;1579372909;diana_coman;theoretically at least, nothing stops phf from still reading it anyway. 1956991;1579373627;mircea_popescu;That's a Jew's harp on the table, that's a crayon in his hand... and the corners of the blueprint are ruined since they rolled far past the stems of thumbtacks that still throw shadows on the wood... and the skylight is like skin for a drum I'll never mend. And all the rain falls down 1956992;1579373627;mircea_popescu;Amen 1956993;1579373627;mircea_popescu;On the works of last year's men 1956994;1579382851;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/usg-sting-apparently-underway-in-virginia-trap-under-cover-of-pro-gun-rally/ << Qntra -- USG Sting Apparently Underway In Virginia Trap Under Cover Of "Pro-Gun" Rally 1956995;1579384686;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-18#1956913 << select works on my end. [http://www.krankendenken.com/2019/12/a-brief-look-into-portage-and-ebuilds/?b=what%20is%20Portage&e=used%20by#select][For example] 1956996;1579384686;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-18 11:41:50 mircea_popescu: hmm lobbes no select on krankendenken ? 1956997;1579384690;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-18#1956914 << I have not. Maryland eh? 1956998;1579384690;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-18 11:45:59 mircea_popescu: and incidentally, did you run into [http://fetlife.com/users/1840564][this one] ? 1956999;1579385257;dorion;I got a positive response from the rEFInd fellow. Invited him to join #trilema. 1957000;1579385394;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-10#1956768 - how's the busybox article coming trinque ? 1957001;1579385394;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-10 10:29:00 trinque: trying to land that one this weekend too 1957002;1579385992;dorion;on the dissect Gales front, diana_coman [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-17#1015280][reported] a successful install, lobbes got a start, but is sidelining for logger work and [http://younghands.club/2020/01/11/rmd-plan-jan-11-17th-2020/#comment-288][expects] to be done by Jan 31 and ... 1957003;1579385993;ossabot;(ossasepia) 2020-01-17 diana_coman: jfw: fyi, I got around to build Gales and it seems to have built fine on a CentOS 6 with gcc 4.9.4; there was just a short wtf moment when the... tar cmd failed; it turns out that the --sort option is available only from tar V 1.28 while my local tar is ... 1.23; I didn't see any version spec in the prerequisites though probably my CentOS 6 is about as old everything as one gets nowadays 1957004;1579386004;dorion;spyked [http://thetarpit.org/2020/work-plan-for-m1-2020?b=installing%20Gales#select][plans] to cover it by the end of the month. 1957005;1579386095;dorion;bvt did you see jfw had some [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-17#1015312][issue] leaving a comment on your gales install report ? 1957006;1579386096;ossabot;(ossasepia) 2020-01-17 jfw: bvt: left a reply to your Gales report but it's not showing to me even as in moderation. Did it make it to your queue? 1957007;1579392832;mircea_popescu;http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/stasis/?b=the%20improvement&e=cycle#select << what am i doing wrong then ? 1957008;1579393167;lobbes;mircea_popescu: I think it's because the 'improvement' is within a href tag 1957009;1579393249;mircea_popescu;you can select within tags on trilema tho 1957010;1579393260;mircea_popescu;is your code diff / 1957011;1579393278;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2020/eulora-changes-or-hey-diana_coman/?b=we%20were&e=talking#select << sample 1957012;1579393386;lobbes;mircea_popescu: ah I see what you mean. Now this is interesting, [http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/stasis/?b=improvement&e=cycle#select][this] works just fine for some reason 1957013;1579393590;whaack;the match for the selection tool is done on the source text, not the output text. "the improvement" does not match to 'the improvement' 1957014;1579393590;ericbot;(trilema-hanbot) 2020-01-10 hanbot: and take heart, this is part an' parcel of the improvement-->challenge-->failure-->improvement cycle we go over so very often. 1957015;1579393932;whaack;if the text one's selecting is all within a tag, then the selection tool will properly match. But if you cross a tag, [http://trilema.com/2020/eulora-changes-or-hey-diana_coman/?b=because%20we&e=talking#select][like so], then the markup will interfere 1957016;1579394203;lobbes;whaack: ah okay, I see what you mean. 1957017;1579394207;lobbes;Although, it looks like in some cases it will [http://trilema.com/2020/eulora-changes-or-hey-diana_coman/?b=yesterday&e=Because%20we%20were%20talking#select][default] to selecting the end of the paragraph when done across tag boundaries 1957018;1579394330;*;lobbes bbl 1957019;1579394510;whaack;lobbes: the reason for the above behavior is as follows: the start string "yesterday" gets matched. so yesterday becomes "yesterday" But there is no match for "Because we were talking". So trilema serves a tag that does not properly close. The way most browsers handle this is to put an implicit before the

1957020;1579395471;mircea_popescu;hm 1957021;1579395518;mircea_popescu;actually i think he;s right 1957022;1579397178;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-18#1956931 << good news! 1957023;1579397178;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-18 18:20:01 dorion: I got a positive response from the rEFInd fellow. Invited him to join #trilema. 1957024;1579397225;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-18#1956932 << cranking on it now, probably done later this evening. I've been filling in the gaps in my own understanding as I go. 1957025;1579397225;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-18 18:22:18 dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-10#1956768 - how's the busybox article coming trinque ? 1957026;1579421696;diana_coman;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-18#1956934 - successful build; haven't yet installed it, although there's a lenovo x200 unearthed for it. 1957027;1579421696;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-18 18:32:16 dorion: on the dissect Gales front, diana_coman [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-17#1015280][reported] a successful install, lobbes got a start, but is sidelining for logger work and [http://younghands.club/2020/01/11/rmd-plan-jan-11-17th-2020/#comment-288][expects] to be done by Jan 31 and ... 1957028;1579437958;mircea_popescu;billymg, wouldja handle the moderation incantations for http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-84 ; i dun want him to read one without the other. 1957029;1579437988;mircea_popescu;hanbot_abroad, check this out : "Throughout his career, he has received various awards and honors, including an Emmy Award, multiple MTV Movie Awards, a Britannia Award and a Teen Choice Award." 1957030;1579437999;mircea_popescu;a dealer's choice award too, why not. 1957031;1579438046;hanbot_abroad;not like any of the others are intelligible, but wtf is a 'britannia award'?! 1957032;1579438169;mircea_popescu;(and, of course, in keeping with the traditions of imbecility, "this article is semi-protected, as per bla bla policy". not, eminently, "this article is protected because our philosophical model is utterly broken and doesn't even work in our own hand". but SEMI-protected, because if you don't call failure by its name it's almost as if it never happened, and besides, coming up with an alternative "plausible" reason for it e 1957033;1579438169;mircea_popescu;ntirely eliminates any need to review just how fucking stupid you are. hurray for moron world! three cheers for drownedfuck dumbleland!!! GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF UNITED STATES OF CALIFORNIA IS DROWNING ON OWN POWER BEFORE COMING OF AGE!) 1957034;1579438190;mircea_popescu;hanbot_abroad, i dunno, "who can keep on sinking the longest" ? 1957035;1579438304;hanbot_abroad;"by royal appointment spreader of the semi-protected membrane" 1957036;1579438599;mircea_popescu;And did young Leland sicken, and did young Leland die? 1957037;1579438599;mircea_popescu;And did the sad hearts thicken, and did the mourners cry? 1957038;1579438599;mircea_popescu;No; such was not the fate of young Leland Stanford Nitwit; 1957039;1579438599;mircea_popescu;Though sad hearts round him thicken, 'twas not from sickness' bit. 1957040;1579438600;mircea_popescu;No whooping cough did rack his frame, nor measles, he didn't get it; 1957041;1579438602;mircea_popescu;Not these impaired the sacred name of Leland Stanford Nitwit. 1957042;1579438604;mircea_popescu;Despised love struck not with woe that head of curly spit, 1957043;1579438606;mircea_popescu;Nor stomach troubles laid him low, young Leland Stanford Nitwit. 1957044;1579438608;mircea_popescu;O no. Then list with tearful eye, whilst I his fate do tell. 1957045;1579438610;mircea_popescu;His soul did from this cold world fly by falling down a well. 1957046;1579438635;mircea_popescu;(they misspelled it "dewitt" on the birth paperwork, but it's a self-obvious farmer's mistake. what fucken wit, it's california.) 1957047;1579438694;hanbot_abroad;hahaha. well, leland stanford nitwit jr., anyway 1957048;1579438712;mircea_popescu;no, his father was "amasa" 1957049;1579438724;mircea_popescu;He is widely considered a robber baron.[2][3][4][5][6] 1957050;1579438895;hanbot_abroad;but did he receive multiple robber baron awards? 1957051;1579439035;mircea_popescu;who fucking "robber baron" narrative is such "uppity nedeflorenas whining about things working well" you can't believe it. 1957052;1579439061;mircea_popescu;nfi why they didn't chain the dumb bitches up ; they did have the poles along the railroad. 1957053;1579439091;mircea_popescu;go to senate, "sorry, our railroad can no longer function if there's not an old idle shameless woman tied to every pole. pass a law or we bring in the japanese to govern, you've a week or two" 1957054;1579439097;diana_coman;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-19#1956961 - eh, they misspelled rewards and horrors. 1957055;1579439097;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-19 08:58:55 mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, check this out : "Throughout his career, he has received various awards and honors, including an Emmy Award, multiple MTV Movie Awards, a Britannia Award and a Teen Choice Award." 1957056;1579439167;mircea_popescu;"The originators of the Robber Baron concept were not the injured, the poor, the faddists, the jealous, or a dispossessed elite, but rather a frustrated group of observers led at last by protracted years of harsh depression to believe that the American dream of abundant prosperity for all was a hopeless myth." << this set, the horseface whatshername followers. 1957057;1579439193;mircea_popescu;these must be a) drafted into "military service" consisting of digging ditches in the mud for a year ; and then whipped regularly for recall. 1957058;1579439211;mircea_popescu;otherwise they end up with ideas such as me being both cool and human says something about ~them~. 1957059;1579439224;mircea_popescu;which it very well fucking doesn't. 1957060;1579439350;hanbot_abroad;kinda suspicious that supposedly hard workers would have sufficient time/energy to "observe" and bemoan thusly. 1957061;1579439370;mircea_popescu;wasn't the workers, it was... hey, do you remember the annoying woman in the pawnbroker ? 1957062;1579439371;hanbot_abroad;bitterness takes resources! 1957063;1579439392;mircea_popescu;it was those, unowned women (for reasons of zero value) incorrectly comfortable enouigh to not starve in a ditch 1957064;1579439397;mircea_popescu;but instead going about "trying to help" 1957065;1579439413;hanbot_abroad;mircea_popescu that obnoxious interloper character that won't stop projecting herself onto the old dude? yeah 1957066;1579439418;mircea_popescu;this, incidentally, is what ruined the medieval age, too. 1957067;1579439444;mircea_popescu;originally, the better cut of humanity came up with a rule whereby one son of a family inherits the title, and is a peer ; everyone else -- falls back into the indistinct swamp of commons 1957068;1579439450;mircea_popescu;the mankind sheepherd. 1957069;1579439528;mircea_popescu;the crown ~of the period~ understood enough to at least [http://trilema.com/2019/concedo-hoc/?b=aut%20saltem&e=tale#select][get out of the way] (really, they helped in minor senses) 1957070;1579439539;mircea_popescu;then, of course, the crown moved to lesser heads, and they became by degrees hostile 1957071;1579439559;mircea_popescu;but that didn't matter. what sunk it was the habit of imbecile peers to create allotments for the support of their wives out of the inheritance. 1957072;1579439593;mircea_popescu;instead of "bitch, if i die you're a beggar, make sure i very well fucking don't", it was a "and after i die you get so and so silver each harvest out of your son owning the lands" 1957073;1579439638;mircea_popescu;this, for being squarely against the law not to mention devoid of any possible legal substance (how the fuck's the titleholder to dispose of goods past his deat h?!) nevertheless got enforced 1957074;1579439672;mircea_popescu;and soon enough farming became an economically impossible activity, because a land will only produce what it produces, and its silver value will only be what it is, whereas passage of time and accumulation of these benefits is a monotonously growing function 1957075;1579439686;mircea_popescu;so by 1600 it was no longer worth your while to plough your county. 1957076;1579439694;mircea_popescu;thus they all went into gambling. 1957077;1579439782;mircea_popescu;pretty much the ~worst~ trait of any society is the satisfaction of the female hunger for safety. it's both morally wrong and ethically exactly opposite of the [http://trilema.com/2018/le-salaire-de-lidiotie/#footnote_1_78125][correct stance]. 1957078;1579439804;mircea_popescu;compared to this, catering to the female hunger for calories is a minor loss. 1957079;1579439839;mircea_popescu;so while it's not surprising that america meanwhile became the land of the landwhales, we knew it was going to fail the moment it wasn't the land of the poor blameless helpless damsels chained naked to poles to die there of neglect and exposure. 1957080;1579439852;mircea_popescu;once it's no longer that... it can't be anything good anymore. 1957081;1579439869;hanbot_abroad;when was anywhere ever "that"? 1957082;1579439898;mircea_popescu;recall the discussion of how music was invented ? 1957083;1579439951;mircea_popescu;"[http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2016-11-10#1565451][before the jews came along]", it was that. 1957084;1579439951;ossabot;Logged on 2016-11-10 10:38:43 mircea_popescu: look at it from the historical perspective : music was invented in babylon to quell the wail ; because the males there had the wisdom to kill the boys - for "no reason" but did it. then the jews came along and put it in their book to not do sacrifice children - and so the dumb women flocked to them, and they birefly prevailed. only to go to shit in a handbasket soon thereafter, so much so the fucking short-legg 1957085;1579439986;mircea_popescu;kinda why nobody likes ben stiller and his bartender's awards. 1957086;1579439991;mircea_popescu;there, complete circle. 1957087;1579440289;hanbot_abroad;haha, that's a...pretty broad circle. so what, height of civilization was canaan? 1957088;1579440402;mircea_popescu;worked okay for a while even in michigan 1957089;1579440415;mircea_popescu;before misguided fools shot liberty vallance, that is. 1957090;1579440526;hanbot_abroad;why not them, on stakes? 1957091;1579442377;mircea_popescu;cuz you don't kill an anthill by killing workers. 1957092;1579446013;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-19#1956960 << done 1957093;1579446013;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-19 08:58:25 mircea_popescu: billymg, wouldja handle the moderation incantations for http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-84 ; i dun want him to read one without the other. 1957094;1579446601;mircea_popescu;ty 1957095;1579449047;billymg;in other news i'm now a free man, last day of the pantsuit job was friday 1957096;1579449215;mircea_popescu;good for you! 1957097;1579449221;billymg;my focus now has been the move to cr. i've got movers scheduled and a short trip at the end of this month to scope it out and try to get a few things set up before i'm fully down there 1957098;1579449246;mircea_popescu;you know this is traditionally the role of the women in the household ? 1957099;1579449270;mircea_popescu;da fuck are females even for in this world, if not "domesticate the new place before i get there" 1957100;1579449333;mircea_popescu;yet ironically, instead of being the very lubricant of movement, "oh, its very easy for me to go to a new place, i got a whole retinue of women", moronworld works EXACTLY the opposite, "oh, for all these dumb cunts around i can't go anywhere". 1957101;1579449335;billymg;the pet will be joining on that trip, yes. but she still needs quite a bit of training before she can be sent on a mission like that on her own (she's at the early end of her 20s) 1957102;1579449380;billymg;her only "education" to this point has been the usg school/college system, which i'm constantly working to undo 1957103;1579449398;mircea_popescu;billymg, not that i'm telling you how to run your household, however one approach is to simply send her anyway. "but i have no experience, and it's a humongous task" "do or die trying, bitch." 1957104;1579449413;mircea_popescu;AFTER which you can of course forgive & even forget, on the grounds of "well, she was young". but ~AFTER~. 1957105;1579449474;mircea_popescu;mitigating circumstances can be applied to lighten punishment for failure, but what's the point of applying them before the test, or to eschew the test ? life's not different by virtue of mental fiction. that's what has to be done, that's what has to be done. 1957106;1579449639;billymg;good points. she will certainly have several jobs once we land (running the b&b for one) but in the meantime a lot of this stuff will just get done faster/better if i do it myself 1957107;1579449689;mircea_popescu;i think you should be the judge of that ; not because i suspect you're either good at it or have any experience with it worth the mention -- but exactly for the forestated reasons :) 1957108;1579449781;billymg;hahaha, this too, my experience at this is very low. i'm learning just as much as she is in my respective role 1957109;1579449800;mircea_popescu;funny how close together freedom & "[http://trilema.com/2018/imaginary-questions-nobody-asked-of-me-an-incomplete-compendium/?b=treat%20her&e=badly#select][mistreatment]" tread. 1957110;1579449825;mircea_popescu;almost close enough to lend credence to the theory whereby "modern democracy" is just bald faced freedom=slavery label misdirection. 1957111;1579450507;mircea_popescu;in other smoldering failures of [http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/][the female state], the internet contains loads of crap periphrastically related to [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Literati_of_New_York/No._IV/James_Lawson][james lawson]'s "the dapper gentleman's story", except the item itself. 1957112;1579450577;mircea_popescu;they're not even good for thieves, these morons. what the fuck need is there for any of these Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore - Works - Criticism ... / [Search domain www.amazon.com/Best-American-Humorous-Short-Stories/dp/1547279826] https://www.amazon.com/Best-American-Humorous-Short-Stories/dp/1547279826 / The Distinguished Gentleman's Ride - YouTube / monday | Stylish mens outfits, Real men real style, Dapper ... 1957113;1579450577;mircea_popescu;etcetera ? 1957114;1579450582;mircea_popescu;none, none the fuck whatsoever. 1957115;1579451626;mircea_popescu;http://ftp.oit.unc.edu/docsouth/longstreet/georgia.html << a. b. longstreet's "racy" (by 1835 standards) georgia stories. 1957116;1579451653;mircea_popescu;and so on ad nauseam, when one says "us academia does not exist" one means very specific things by it : that it doesn't fucking exist. 1957117;1579475565;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/week-3-minding-fatlogic/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Week 3 - Minding Fatlogic 1957118;1579478332;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/hawaiii-man-kills-two-cops-houses-around-suspects-suspected-location-burn/ << Qntra -- Hawaiii Man Kills Two Cops Houses Around Suspect's Suspected Location Burn 1957119;1579478520;BingoBoingo;^title fixed 1957120;1579482577;feedbot;http://bimbo.club/2020/01/exposition-ii/ << Bimbo Club -- Exposition II. 1957121;1579552751;BingoBoingo;!!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=EX2d 1957122;1579552758;deedbot;accepted: 1 1957123;1579556282;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/usg-copper-isp-network-operator-frontier-moving-towards-bankruptcy/ << Qntra -- USG Copper ISP Network Operator Frontier Moving Towards Bankruptcy 1957124;1579563870;mod6;!Xsell 17mm 192 Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ 1957125;1579563870;auctionbot;mod6: Eggog: Invalid opening bid input. (e.g of valid input: 12 ; 37k ; 1.3mn) 1957126;1579563897;mod6;!Xsell 17mn 192 Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ 1957127;1579563897;auctionbot;Sell order # 1077 created by mod6: Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ Opening: 17mn ecu Ending: 2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 UTC (191 hours) 1957128;1579563936;mod6;!Xsell 17mn 192 Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ 1957129;1579563936;auctionbot;Sell order # 1078 created by mod6: Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ Opening: 17mn ecu Ending: 2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 UTC (191 hours) 1957130;1579567087;BingoBoingo;!Xbid 1078 18mn 1957131;1579567087;auctionbot;Sell order # 1078: Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ Heard: 18mn from BingoBoingo. Ending: 2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 UTC (191 hours 7 mins) 1957132;1579598274;feedbot;http://trinque.org/2020/01/20/a-republican-os-part-3/ << trinque -- A Republican OS - Part 3 1957133;1579611230;mircea_popescu;!!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=PTgQ 1957134;1579611231;deedbot;accepted: 1 1957135;1579611234;mircea_popescu;trinque, ^ 1957136;1579624224;billymg;spyked: left a response to your comment http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-85 1957137;1579624264;billymg;sorry for the delay and thanks for reading/responding to the article 1957138;1579633600;bvt;hello. i have also published and replied to all comments 1957139;1579634740;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/21/de-facto-data-somethings-in-euloras-client/ << Ossa Sepia -- De Facto Data Somethings in Eulora's Client 1957140;1579635834;dorion;hey bvt, thanks for the update, how goes ? 1957141;1579648683;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/tens-of-thousands-of-armed-inmates-storm-virginia-capital-fail-to-do-anything/ << Qntra -- Tens Of Thousands Of Armed Inmates Storm Virginia Capital, Fail To Do Anything 1957142;1579664712;billymg;damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs as well 1957143;1579664712;billymg;). i also emailed and heard back from a lawyer in cr about getting the residency process going, so all in all not a bad day 1957144;1579673210;mircea_popescu;good for you. 1957145;1579673603;mircea_popescu;http://vcidairy.com/stats/usage_201912.html << in other "wtf internet ?!" lulz. 1957146;1579673690;mircea_popescu;http://archive.is/mEhtD << "Vet Check International" is a website whose stats are provided "as a free service to all Scott Web Service web hosting customers", which also includes you know, everyone who isn't a customer. and, as it turns out, most of the visitors check out... the STATS!!! 1957147;1579681236;bvt;dorion: slowly getting back into shape after vacations, so far some workslots got sacrificed for more sports. other than that, on the vacation i started to write a v implementation that would not have the [http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/?b=Pressing&e=though#select][performance issue]; while it's 90% done, need to invest some more time to finish it. after that, will port the fg-rng to 2.6.32 1957148;1579681242;bvt;kernel 1957149;1579694173;mircea_popescu;good stuff. 1957150;1579700462;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/im-developing-pictureitis/ << Trilema -- I'm developing pictureitis. 1957151;1579715503;dorion;trinque your blog did the html stripping thing again from my latest [http://trinque.org/2020/01/20/a-republican-os-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-153][comment]; here's the [http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=KJ8-][sauce]. 1957152;1579715606;dorion;bvt getting into shape sounds healthy, which sports are you in to ? 1957153;1579715644;dorion;bvt the new V sounds cool. what are you writing it in and do you have an estimated delivery date ? 1957154;1579715666;dorion;bvt sounds good on the kernel. 1957155;1579715808;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-21#1957074 congrats and cheers ! sitting down with whaack last week I learned you were big in motivating him to make some key decisions and become more active. 1957156;1579715808;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-21 23:57:55 billymg: damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs as well 1957157;1579716763;diana_coman;trinque: that stripping of html tags sounds like the [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-03-21#1903824][known bug related to php version]; iirc it was included in some vpatch though. 1957158;1579716764;ossabot;Logged on 2019-03-21 03:08:34 danielpbarron: the culprit function is in wp-includes/comment.php: $commentdata['comment_content'] = apply_filters('pre_comment_content', $commentdata['comment_content']); 1957159;1579720295;billymg;dorion: thank you sir, looking forward to being down south soon with the rest of the central american division 1957160;1579729870;bvt;dorion: typically i just go to gym; after vacations i added swimming to the mix (used to do a lot of that in school), and i like the 'noble tiredness' feeling that it gives a lot. 1957161;1579730032;bvt;dorion: the new v impl is written in a posix shell + awk + ada; the core algos in ada are perhaps too simplistic, but they work nicely so far; the eta is end of next week 1957162;1579730438;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/gnumake-4-3-breaking-backwards-compatibility/ << Qntra -- GNUMake 4.3 Breaking Backwards Compatibility 1957163;1579731939;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957092 << ha, that's a great way to put it. 1957164;1579731940;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 18:03:57 bvt: dorion: typically i just go to gym; after vacations i added swimming to the mix (used to do a lot of that in school), and i like the 'noble tiredness' feeling that it gives a lot. 1957165;1579731954;*;mircea_popescu used to get what i expect is the ~same, from horses. 1957166;1579792470;mircea_popescu;heh, apparently http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-02-24#1785888 lost http://archive.is/h2UpW meanwhile. because totallies, that's how it goes. 1957167;1579792471;ossabot;Logged on 2018-02-24 11:41:59 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dour_mug_shot.jpg 1957168;1579793294;dorion;mircea_popescu yeah, I discovered that when I had the conversation with him back in nov. [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-02-24#1785876][clocks] still there though.. 1957169;1579793295;ossabot;Logged on 2018-02-24 11:19:16 asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu . hands were full. but now have a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/triage_clocks_1.jpg and a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/triage_clocks_2.jpg . 1957170;1579793342;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957091 - word. you landing this month ? next ? 1957171;1579793343;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 15:24:22 billymg: dorion: thank you sir, looking forward to being down south soon with the rest of the central american division 1957172;1579793357;mircea_popescu;in general, idiots will a) sabotage any attempt to fix their stupid head and then b) destroy the remains. it's a narrative approach to the world, this "oh, you're perfect the way you are, don't you ever change, that's your identity" bla bla bla. 1957173;1579793383;mircea_popescu;used to be a chicks-only thing, we'd sit around with the women and laugh at the lanky colts. but nowadays it's spread. 1957174;1579793478;mircea_popescu;"how to be a twelve year old girl" is apparently all that vaunted "us culture" comprised. 1957175;1579793479;dorion;mircea_popescu calls to mind the trilema mediocrity byline. 1957176;1579793589;dorion;mircea_popescu 'boomers' really stayed babies in many ways. 1957177;1579793615;mircea_popescu;what's boomers ? isn't it people born in the 50s ? 1957178;1579793623;mircea_popescu;ie, 70yos by now 1957179;1579793668;dorion;yeah about then. 1957180;1579793687;mircea_popescu;what's that to do with anything lol. can't go on blaming 70yos forever. 1957181;1579793766;dorion;right, things were going down hill before them, but I reckon they accelerated the decline. 1957182;1579793912;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957092 - nice. I grew up playing team sports, but find myself primarily doing gym exercises these days. 1957183;1579793912;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 18:03:57 bvt: dorion: typically i just go to gym; after vacations i added swimming to the mix (used to do a lot of that in school), and i like the 'noble tiredness' feeling that it gives a lot. 1957184;1579793936;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957093 - sounds nice all around. 1957185;1579793936;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 18:06:39 bvt: dorion: the new v impl is written in a posix shell + awk + ada; the core algos in ada are perhaps too simplistic, but they work nicely so far; the eta is end of next week 1957186;1579793999;mircea_popescu;man, i gotta read this log lol. currently stuck on what's becoming an endless piece for diana_coman ; but I SHALL PREVAIL!!! 1957187;1579795770;diana_coman;mircea_popescu: ha! I did look in disbelief at the length of my own "comment" - it's longer than some articles I published at other times! 1957188;1579795819;mircea_popescu;being smart and having interesting work are the only cure to writer's block yet found or ever liable to be known 1957189;1579796636;billymg;dorion: i should be there full time in early march, i'll be there for about a week starting at the end of next 1957190;1579797985;dorion;billymg cool. march 1st will mark the 8th anniversary of me making the jump. saludos ! 1957191;1579798066;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/get-back-to-me/ << Trilema -- Get back to me... 1957192;1579798442;dorion;the price of gold in usd was only briefly above the price it was that day (~$1720ish), despite usd being continually diluted. meanwhile, [http://archive.is/yzwIA][p. schiff], "i didn't forget my password, my wallet forgot my password." doh. 1957193;1579798839;billymg;dorion: very excited for sure. and congrats on already making a life for yourself outside of the wire 1957194;1579799292;mircea_popescu;dude's pretty fucking self-strokingly stupid, isn't he ? 1957195;1579799435;dorion;I think he got to a point, probably around 2008 where he decided he'd figured out how ~everything works and stopped learning. 1957196;1579799439;mircea_popescu;to add the lulz crown on the lulzcow, he's doing all this shameful, obscene self-criting on fucking twitter of all places, a platform like any other, with a great history of doing EXACTLY such to [http://trilema.com/2015/what-amused-me-today/][derpy cuckbois just like him]. 1957197;1579799502;mircea_popescu;maybe ask him what his contingency plan is once twitter "loses his password" ? how will he continue to regale the eager world with the delightful tales of his [http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/][continued, sustained failure] to mean or matter in the world ? 1957198;1579799533;mircea_popescu;maybe he could get a boad, like the rest of them. an imaginary boat, and you know... just sail, foreverafter... 1957199;1579799555;mircea_popescu;fucking surpluss epiphenomena, all these loudly hollow tin women everywhere. 1957200;1579799751;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957093 << this sounds pretty interesting hehe, looking forward 1957201;1579799751;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 18:06:39 bvt: dorion: the new v impl is written in a posix shell + awk + ada; the core algos in ada are perhaps too simplistic, but they work nicely so far; the eta is end of next week 1957202;1579801452;dorion;in other tmsr os updates, I expect to have a review from [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953428][nov 25th] to present and plan for february published by this sunday. 1957203;1579801452;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-25 09:06:41 mircea_popescu: yo dorion , you wanna head the tmsr-os project for us ? 1957204;1579803631;mircea_popescu;nice. 1957205;1579813860;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/virginia-senate-passes-firearm-seizure-law-after-more-thank-20000-armed-men-leave-their-lawn/ << Qntra -- Virginia Senate Passes Firearm Seizure Law After More Thank 20,000 Armed Men Leave Their Lawn 1957206;1579824187;billymg;mod6: been doing some testing with your privkey_tools patch and afaict everything's working as it should. i applied it manually after pressing the trb stable tree 1957207;1579824191;billymg;i was looking through the logs trying to find a reason why it wasn't included in the main release but couldn't find an answer. are there any caveats/things i should watch out for? 1957208;1579824851;dorion;billymg has to do with sha512 vs keccak afaik 1957209;1579825003;billymg;ah, got it. ty 1957210;1579831465;mircea_popescu;guy couldn't be arsed to sign it properly, basically. two years or whatever, he's waiting me out. 1957211;1579831484;mircea_popescu;cuz that's what you wanna see. 1957212;1579838159;mod6;billymg: Hi, it wasn't included because there was an objection (i'll have to dig the logs for it) to it being included (trinque) because it includes a class that was deemed unnecessary. 1957213;1579838183;mod6;mircea_popescu: No Sir, not waiting you or anyone out. 1957214;1579838240;mod6;There was also the entire question of not putting it in, as it was discussed that the wallet should be cleaved from the rest of the architecture itself -- and further work on wallet related things should wait. 1957215;1579838260;mod6;That's what I've had loaded in my head, anyway. 1957216;1579838268;mod6;Let me see if I can dig up trinque's objection here quick. 1957217;1579838592;mod6;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-10-13#1724987 1957218;1579838593;snsabot;Logged on 2017-10-13 11:32:29 trinque: the introduction of new classes should be perma-banned 1957219;1579838600;mod6;http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714239 1957220;1579838600;a111;Logged on 2017-09-14 05:30 trinque been spelunking in the trb innards a while, close to wrapped up on a few little tools to go hexstring->privkey->pubkey->addr relying solely on existing trb innards. 1957221;1579838662;mod6;Anyway, I'm open to another discussion around the privkey tools vpatch. For what it's worth, I think TRB sorely needs it. But again, the whole discussion about the wallet. 1957222;1579838873;mod6;I am also aware of the wallet work that has been on-going in python by gbw. Maybe this gets folded into that? 1957223;1579838969;mod6;Also, mircea_popescu, I do have the the entire trb tree (with exception of privkey_tools) signed and ready to go in Keccak. Has been since last January. I havne't been able to find a Lord who will double check my work though. 1957224;1579839035;mod6;http://blog.mod6.net/2019/01/trb-keccak-regrind/ 1957225;1579839074;mod6;Upon resoltion of the privkey_tools question, will happily add it to the current archive of signed Keccak TRB Vptaches. 1957226;1579839349;dorion;hey mod6, how's life since [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939278][quitting] your old 9-5 ? 1957227;1579839349;ossabot;Logged on 2019-09-30 14:06:42 mod6: Hai all, it's been a pretty intense month - lot going on here. I've left my 9-5 job! 1957228;1579839579;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957153 - the online component is in python, the [http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/gales-bitcoin-wallet-status-preliminary-work-plan-and-code-dump/?b=Offline%20component,#select][offline component] is in Scheme. 1957229;1579839579;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 00:20:48 mod6: I am also aware of the wallet work that has been on-going in python by gbw. Maybe this gets folded into that? 1957230;1579845291;mod6;dorion: ah, hrm. it's had its ups and downs. 1957231;1579845329;mod6;thx, for denoting the offline component in scheme. 1957232;1579861170;mircea_popescu;mod6, why are you looking for a lord to "doubleckeck your work" ~outside~ of the process through which this is done here ? 1957233;1579861206;mircea_popescu;stop putting yourself in the way of progress, the only thing you'll get out of it is your own mangled body. 1957234;1579861245;mircea_popescu;no fucking clue why your ferrocraneum manages to conceal from you the plain obviousness of this ; no fucking idea what you make of all the other mangled bodies of like idiots scattered about, nor of the actual pain you feel and have been feeling. 1957235;1579861267;mircea_popescu;but it's a fact : stop trying to put yourself in the way, it will not stop anything and it will fuck you iup. 1957236;1579861301;mircea_popescu;"waiting to fo into keccak". there's no fucking waiting. do it, do it now, and stop with the infantile bullshit. the republic isn't optional, nor is it trying to persuade the infant in you. 1957237;1579885274;mod6;mircea_popescu: Ok, I have published my trb keccak regrind on the bitcoin.foundation site. It comes with the following: 1. Update to original genesis.vpatch - removes the UTF charater. 2. Added mod6_privkey_tools.vpatch (unchanged fro the original ML posting by myself.) 3. A manifest file. 4. I've also updated the howto document on thebitcoin.foundation. 1957238;1579885319;mod6;The howto document now requires that you have Ada on your environment before you build, and the builder will also need to build starter_v_2 first, before any other steps are to be completed. 1957239;1579885362;mod6;I won't be back around until later today, but i'll check back in later. 1957240;1579904586;feedbot;http://bimbo.club/2020/01/exposition-iii/ << Bimbo Club -- Exposition III. 1957241;1579904806;dorion;mircea_popescu I hope I've not waited too long, but I'm ready to ask you about the [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/11/jwrd-computing-the-why-how-what-and-way-forward/#comment-28][face to face] structure jfw and I started with for jwrd. 1957242;1579904818;dorion;To provide context, the main reason we started with this is because Gales as an environment is pure text, so the command line must be used. For the most part, the people we're prospecting don't have command line experience. 1957243;1579904834;dorion;At the start, basics like remembering where spaces go in command syntax and the difference between slashes and dashes can trip them up. Thus, sitting next to them a) gives them some assurance, b) allows the instructor's feedback loop to be shortened because he sees exactly where the mistake is being made and c) makes keeping the sessions within 90 minutes more feasible. 1957244;1579904866;dorion;The lectures and course materials - we provide both digital and hard copy resources - were built around this structure. We've provided hard copies of lectures/in class exerices and homework, in part because they've typically never used a text editor (though vimtutor is part of the early homework) and pencil and paper brings them back to a more familiar learning modality. 1957245;1579904894;dorion;We build them up from an environment they're used to, but also heavily stress practice of the commands and text editor. 1957246;1579904918;dorion;With that being said, physical presence limits us, both from clients we can work with and, as we grow, instructors we can onboard, e.g. [http://thetarpit.org/2020/2019-in-review#fn:6][spyked]. 1957247;1579904954;dorion;One middleground we've looked at pivoting to is using a server with tmux session sharing combined with a voice or video call. That will provide a "classroom" experience for both instructor and student from the comfort/convenience of the home office. 1957248;1579904973;dorion;On top of that we plan to move IRC from around session 20, where it was with the first batch, to somewhere between sessions 5-10 and make that the primary, or ideally only, communication channel. 1957249;1579905004;dorion;Panama does have a more old school, meet in person culture, so we see face to face still as a good option for building long-term relationships, e.g. makes going for a drink after class that much easier, but cutting the number in half rather than the full 25. 1957250;1579905028;dorion;Does this shift make sense to you ? Or is it still silly in ways I'm not seeing ? 1957251;1579905368;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957161 - I see. perhaps writing some articles about the process on your blog would mitigate the downs and amplify the ups ? 1957252;1579905368;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 02:07:46 mod6: dorion: ah, hrm. it's had its ups and downs. 1957253;1579905410;dorion;mod6 you see yourself managing to keep yourself free of 9-5 longer term ? 1957254;1579905773;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957169 - did you see jfw's [http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/keksum-a-keccak-implementation-in-c-as-standalone-unix-utility-genesis/][keksum] ? 1957255;1579905773;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 13:14:56 mod6: The howto document now requires that you have Ada on your environment before you build, and the builder will also need to build starter_v_2 first, before any other steps are to be completed. 1957256;1579905826;dorion;(I'm not saying one's better than the other, just pointing that it exists.) 1957257;1579907592;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/royal-yachting-association-discovers-their-database-was-leaked-in-2015/ << Qntra -- "Royal Yachting Association" Discovers Their Database Was Leaked In 2015! 1957258;1579909273;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957173 - regarding the "because" there: there was perhaps a degree of teaching it because we'd built it, but I see it more the other way - a text-only Linux being a good choice for the job specifically because it doesn't have the GUI crutch and CLI illiteracy is one of the bigger barriers that otherwise intelligent people face to using serious 1957259;1579909273;jfw;computing tools. 1957260;1579909273;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 18:39:58 dorion: To provide context, the main reason we started with this is because Gales as an environment is pure text, so the command line must be used. For the most part, the people we're prospecting don't have command line experience. 1957261;1579910003;*;jfw acknowledges he's a ways behind here, will try to find a balance between underinformed and overdelayed responses... 1957262;1579910437;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955683 - this is not necessarily the case though, no? lock in correspondent addresses up front, or gpg keys to verify delivery instructions offline, or send address by courier, whatever. Airgap does not solve all problems, obviously. Shooting yourself in the foot is not the gunsmith's fault is it? 1957263;1579910437;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-18 22:36:14 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955615 << so then your inputs to the process are haxed, and you go diligently dispatch btc to 1HaxFuckYou 1957264;1579911007;jfw;trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955688 - do I understand this claim as: if A assists B to use known-bad software X as opposed to known-worse software Y, while clearly stating the risk, A is then to blame for what harm may befall B? 1957265;1579911007;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-18 22:37:41 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955617 << it solves only the pretense of being "not to blame" while still being very much to blame 1957266;1579911076;jfw;AFAIK even the ol' USA has not quite reached the point where you're still liable even if you put the "warning: hot coffee is hot" warning on the hot coffee 1957267;1579912014;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-19#1955775 - thanks, fixed. Indeed I recognized "borne" as correct once pointed out but then "wait, so what's the infinitive of born if it's not about the bearing?!" 1957268;1579912014;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-19 02:04:30 mp_en_viaje: i mean uh. the word's the same, ye olde beran, but the participle / past tense of it is "borne" in all cases when you're not talking of actual birth. 1957269;1579914011;dorion;fyi, I'm currently making a big photo blog of st. vincent, and on a deadline. 1957270;1579914101;*;dorion meant to pm that to jfw, but no matter. 1957271;1579914777;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957149 << really curious over here what class needed to be introduced to do anything with privkeys 1957272;1579914777;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 00:16:07 mod6: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-10-13#1724987 1957273;1579914777;snsabot;Logged on 2017-10-13 11:32:29 trinque: the introduction of new classes should be perma-banned 1957274;1579914824;trinque;and ftr my word is not law. if you were sane you'd have said "hey trinque, I am thinking of introducing this class" and arguing with me why it should be introduced. 1957275;1579914856;trinque;and I'd have said "mod6 what the fuck, there are already classes for keys" and then by god, we'd have babby's first culture brewing by lunch 1957276;1579915057;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957193 << you miss my point, which is not "and therefore never do things" 1957277;1579915057;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 20:13:36 jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955683 - this is not necessarily the case though, no? lock in correspondent addresses up front, or gpg keys to verify delivery instructions offline, or send address by courier, whatever. Airgap does not solve all problems, obviously. Shooting yourself in the foot is not the gunsmith's fault is it? 1957278;1579915106;trinque;it's that "oh god linux is a fractal hellscape so I will airgap" solves some problems, and by way of cosmic fact not all 1957279;1579915124;trinque;and we with the OS project must solve more of the latter. 1957280;1579915172;trinque;you must hear me with the series pounding on the fact that "found object, labelled" is not enough. 1957281;1579915258;jfw;Agreed then. 1957282;1579915271;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957195 << hm where's the line from mircea_popescu about the bum in the street screaming at you to get off HIS corner having more patriotism than "you've" ever had 1957283;1579915271;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 20:23:06 jfw: trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955688 - do I understand this claim as: if A assists B to use known-bad software X as opposed to known-worse software Y, while clearly stating the risk, A is then to blame for what harm may befall B? 1957284;1579915294;trinque;yes, you own it or you don't, and we don't get to put fig-leaves over our lack of ownership 1957285;1579915316;trinque;or we're back in socialist hell where ownership is "my cubicle" 1957286;1579915367;jfw;I liked your description of ownership in that series too btw. 1957287;1579921448;mircea_popescu;trinque, i dunno, but it sounds just like something i said 1957288;1579921513;mircea_popescu;mod6, alright then 1957289;1579921712;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957172 << too long for what lol, i'm still around. now, what are you asking me ? 1957290;1579921712;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 18:39:46 dorion: mircea_popescu I hope I've not waited too long, but I'm ready to ask you about the [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/11/jwrd-computing-the-why-how-what-and-way-forward/#comment-28][face to face] structure jfw and I started with for jwrd. 1957291;1579921780;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957178 << i do not believe this is a sane worldview. 1957292;1579921781;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 18:42:14 dorion: One middleground we've looked at pivoting to is using a server with tmux session sharing combined with a voice or video call. That will provide a "classroom" experience for both instructor and student from the comfort/convenience of the home office. 1957293;1579921812;mircea_popescu;meh, wrong click. 1957294;1579921826;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957177 << i do not believe this is a sane worldview. 1957295;1579921826;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 18:41:37 dorion: With that being said, physical presence limits us, both from clients we can work with and, as we grow, instructors we can onboard, e.g. [http://thetarpit.org/2020/2019-in-review#fn:6][spyked]. 1957296;1579921930;mircea_popescu;physical presence also limits me wrt to the sluts i can fuck, both in regards to variety (for instance, the typical redditard chronical masturbator "has sex" with a much greater variety of women that never heard of him) and in regards to whatever the fuck i can catch from them. like say the common cold, the fewer actual women you physically meet, the less variety of colds you'll get. obviously the subway is RIGHT OUT!!! 1957297;1579921980;mircea_popescu;yet what sort of fucking is that, ~if she's not even there~ ? 1957298;1579922038;mircea_popescu;honestly, i believe the being together part is actually more important than the "teaching linux" or "sticking it in her" or "playing with stocks and wheels" and whatnot. 1957299;1579922402;mircea_popescu;yet look at it in the cold, blue light of logic : between these three categories, (men and women in an atomic soup), (men jacking off in front of the computer to images of women it presents), (women cavorting naked in man's livingroom) and these three categories, (noobs and experts in an atomic soup), (noobs wanking on reddit to images of experts it presents), (experts teaching noob computers in noob's livingroom) the rela 1957300;1579922402;mircea_popescu;tionship is direct! 1957301;1579922422;mircea_popescu;there's no single kink, it's all straight as rain. 1957302;1579922502;mircea_popescu;so boggle with me at the sheer insanity of unleashed abstraction : the moment you put it in human frame, the moment you tie it down to the sanity engine of the brain, the part that ~actually~ works of it, having been honed into working through endless millenia of practice, having its capacity to distinguish right from wrong and correct from dumb evolved into existence, suddenly it's all fucking self-obvious. 1957303;1579922522;mircea_popescu;but if you don't do that, "we don't know how to distinguish", "all abstractions are in principle just as good as any others" and so on. 1957304;1579922684;mircea_popescu;if instead of taking actual women to actual cages and stocks i joined the choir invisible, and "did" TWICE, whatever, ten thousand times "as many", except you know, "not physically" to use an euphemism... woudl you be impressed with how much i've progressed ? would i be ten thiousand times better if instead of being real i collapsed into wholly imaginaey ? 1957305;1579922749;mircea_popescu;so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not as much as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed) 1957306;1579922803;mircea_popescu;build it around the relationship, their building, their lifecycle, their needs. do not build it around the imaginary "point", that isn't. 1957307;1579922888;mircea_popescu;look at the expansion angle : if ten days after you've sat down, dude says, "um... so my whole business is fucked by this data conversion problem", as they ALL FUCKING ARE, you must have lived under a rock somewhere if you believe "western world" "business" in its daily practice at the office is ANYTHING but trying to deal with data formats 1957308;1579922916;mircea_popescu;ask everyone, from obscure shitholistan small lawyers to lobbes or nicoleci or anyone you meet, they can tell you. 1957309;1579922953;mircea_popescu;what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ? as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ? 1957310;1579923208;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957178 << not like it's forbidden or anything. i'm not saying you should marry all these people or anything like that. i think the way of looking at it is the central problem, once that's well anchored the specific ways you go about it in a circumstance or another's you know, a matter of circumstance. 1957311;1579923208;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 18:42:14 dorion: One middleground we've looked at pivoting to is using a server with tmux session sharing combined with a voice or video call. That will provide a "classroom" experience for both instructor and student from the comfort/convenience of the home office. 1957312;1579923254;mircea_popescu;i don't think there's a mandatory time where you must irc, anymore than i think there's a mandatory time when eg people from #ossasepia must trilema or anything. 1957313;1579923282;mircea_popescu;obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things as a matter of necessity. 1957314;1579923362;mircea_popescu;the fundamental problems are that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously the afflicted are scarcely aware, but this doesn't mean they're not afflicted. 1957315;1579923468;mircea_popescu;whole "work-years", entire "departments" could readily be replaced by you know, half hour's worth of sed ; they aren't because us corporatelandia mostly exists as makework, to create the illusion for millions of ambitious derps that they're "doing something" lest they take to the streets and start throwing rocks. nevertheless, even if the cutting legs is systematically needed in socialism, to crate the sort of helpless vat 1957316;1579923468;mircea_popescu;-people it can thrive amongst, it's still personally disabling. 1957317;1579923538;mircea_popescu;so you know, as far as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them. 1957318;1579923560;mircea_popescu;gales or no gales, the man who can't cat | grep is closer to a boy than any other man. 1957319;1579923652;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957189 << quite so. using tools, ~thinking in ways which make their activity amenable to useful tools~ and so on. 1957320;1579923652;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 19:54:12 jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957173 - regarding the "because" there: there was perhaps a degree of teaching it because we'd built it, but I see it more the other way - a text-only Linux being a good choice for the job specifically because it doesn't have the GUI crutch and CLI illiteracy is one of the bigger barriers that otherwise intelligent people face to using serious 1957321;1579923688;mircea_popescu;the difference between the subsistence hunter and the instagram foodie isn't merely that the subsistence hunter doesn't have marble countertops or cuisinarts. a point readily verified by giving him some. 1957322;1579923779;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957197 << indeed it has ; look into "strict liability" [http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/][sometime] 1957323;1579923779;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 20:24:16 jfw: AFAIK even the ol' USA has not quite reached the point where you're still liable even if you put the "warning: hot coffee is hot" warning on the hot coffee 1957324;1579923791;mircea_popescu;oh for chrissakes. 1957325;1579924103;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957195 << take the hospital analogy. 1957326;1579924103;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 20:23:06 jfw: trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-18#1955688 - do I understand this claim as: if A assists B to use known-bad software X as opposed to known-worse software Y, while clearly stating the risk, A is then to blame for what harm may befall B? 1957327;1579924151;mircea_popescu;obviously, people are complicated enough such that at ANY point (meaning, in the times of hipocrates as today) there's going to be a list of very easily remedied dysfunctions and a list of very unremediable dysfiunctions. 1957328;1579924205;mircea_popescu;as time goes by, the first list grows (though the 2nd list doesn't shorten), and so while any cultivared man of means could be a doctor in 2000, only ~i and such can be de facto "general practitioners" today... wait, nothing's changed. 1957329;1579924238;mircea_popescu;but anyway, from the perspective of the patient, he goes in wanting to be fixed. he's done his part. some of these patients who've done their part will hear "ok, do this, don't do that" and some will hear "we don't know" 1957330;1579924281;mircea_popescu;this latter bit might even inquire "are you even a hospital then ?!", and the only proper answer's that... no, you aren't. you're a hospital for all those other people, but not for pancreatic cancer guy. 1957331;1579924362;mircea_popescu;now, this baseline truth is psychologically painful to doctors, so there's two classes : the kind who go into research, and the kind who put diplomas on their walls. these might even overlap, but the point remains : as far as the people you can't help are concerned, you're not helping. there's no way out of this, and word magic, labes etc won't fix it. 1957332;1579924431;mircea_popescu;you're to come up with some way to deal with the psychological tension on your own, and sure, whatever works for you'd better be good enough. however, what he's saying, and correctly, is that investment in supposed "identity" to resolve the matter's a way to make yourself dumber than you need to be. 1957333;1579924507;mircea_popescu;sure, the expectation on the part of the naive patient that he may be healed might have to be disabused now and again ; sure, the expectation on the part of the naive doctor, that he may practice what he knows without getting killed by chtulhu for no comprehensible reason at arbitrary times should hold as much as it possibly can. 1957334;1579924538;mircea_popescu;so you have some grounds to expect that indeed, "clearly labeling A" does soemthing. nevertheless, what it doesn't do is... solve the problem. 1957335;1579943629;feedbot;http://ave1.org/2020/failure-modes/ << ave1 -- Failure Modes 1957336;1579955193;mircea_popescu;o.O he lives! 1957337;1579955491;mircea_popescu;ave1, you know, uniquely among the lands tmsr actually has support systems for such problems. why not drop in say #trilema-hanbot try the working method, as opposed to trying to self-invent methadone by yourself alone ? 1957338;1579956816;hanbot_abroad;ave1 do drop in, i'd love to see what your output is like if your time is spent in tune with organized priorities. 1957339;1579956945;hanbot_abroad;meanwhile i'm on a multi-day search for a trilema piece that clearly delineated the male mode as "being" and the female mode as "doing"...the uselessness of these key terms makes the search a drag without some other anchor. anyone remember this/remember something else about it? 1957340;1579956974;mircea_popescu;hanbot_abroad, did it use the example of kids pictures parents show ? 1957341;1579956994;mircea_popescu;dorion, why's your article start with an ? is that intentional ? 1957342;1579957063;mircea_popescu;oh look at me, all the lines i enter are exactly the same length now. 1957343;1579957110;mircea_popescu;heres an idea, let's standardize all terminals to 70 colons therefore 1957344;1579958891;hanbot_abroad;mircea_popescu apparently not ;/ 1957345;1579960886;bvt;hanbot_abroad: http://trilema.com/2018/the-lesbian-in-winter/ ? 1957346;1579961427;diana_coman;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957237 - heh, this ties in with dorion's very start in #o for that matter, here: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-29#1007921 1957347;1579961427;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:39:43 mircea_popescu: build it around the relationship, their building, their lifecycle, their needs. do not build it around the imaginary "point", that isn't. 1957348;1579961427;ossabot;(ossasepia) 2019-10-29 diana_coman: oh my, if I ever start "developing programmers" do me a favour and shoot me. 1957349;1579962177;mircea_popescu;diana_coman, conspiring to make me read #ossasepia :D 1957350;1579962290;diana_coman;at the same time upping the writing productions all around so there's *less* time to read it, too! :D 1957351;1579962342;mircea_popescu;sabotaje 1957352;1579962537;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, one of these days we're gonna have that talk about qntra already ; you around ? 1957353;1579963151;diana_coman;hanbot_abroad: I'd say more about [http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/][some males not being and women doing] but perhaps it might still be what you were looking for; specifically re being, I recall [http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/analysis-of-the-road-to-ossasepia-series/#comment-95][this comment] 1957354;1579965186;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I'm here 1957355;1579965207;mircea_popescu;aite, so tell me 1957356;1579965255;feedbot;http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix << The Tar Pit -- Trilemabot and Feedbot V patches, the winter 2020 session 1957357;1579965481;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, where would you like me to start? 1957358;1579965509;mircea_popescu;ideally, let's revisit the plans wrt attracting writers and improving circulation, and their respective state of implementation. 1957359;1579965750;BingoBoingo;Well, next month I'm inclined to try to meet up will all the folks advertising local Bitcoin trades online. Letting them know what the Republic is, etc. The number advertising themselves here has grown as Argentina's shit itself out of being a place Venezuelans can do the remittance loop thing. 1957360;1579965805;BingoBoingo;It's been a while since I've done one of these sweeps, and I want to see what all the Latinos saying Bitcoin around me are doing, and if any might be able to do disciplined writing. 1957361;1579965960;BingoBoingo;The only walk in on irc has been shinohai, but so far he's not come with written pieces in hand or expressed interest in trying to establish a disciplined writing workflow. He's just expressed interest without having one of the two things I can say yes to. I can say yes to a piece or I can say yes to the desire to put together a workflow to make pieces. So far he isn't bringing either. 1957362;1579966154;BingoBoingo;I'll hammer a more refined plan out of the paper notebook on the desk and put it on the blog. Should be ready by Wednesday evening. 1957363;1579967343;mircea_popescu;but last month ? 1957364;1579967435;mircea_popescu;from where i'm sitting, the matter's not by wednesday evening. qntra originally started in the other five year plan, you know, not the one ending recently, the one before that. cazalla did a little outreach, which is part of how eg you ended up there, but then found his way back to the spawnfarms. 1957365;1579967471;mircea_popescu;since you've been running things, you've done a little that ever diminished, and well... i dunno, never looked at it much, either. 1957366;1579967484;mircea_popescu;what's next wednesday to do with all this, are we posing for a popeye cartoon or something ? 1957367;1579967864;BingoBoingo;I'll work on cranking up the outreach now that Pizarro's dead, buried, and done. Last month I made an effort to bring the 'bicycle guy' who'd been doing Pizarro liquidity into the WoT. We met up a few times to talk Bitcoin and Republic, and the evils of socialism. He kept expressing interest, but around the New Year he went silent. I suspect spawnweight and nagwife did him in. 1957368;1579967938;BingoBoingo;And I do have to improve my organization game. 1957369;1579968048;BingoBoingo;And my outreach game. 1957370;1579968408;mircea_popescu;dorion, sorry, left comment on wrong article. meanwhile added to the right one, mind deleting the spurious one ? 1957371;1579968450;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, well, yeah, that kinda was the conclusion once the original bitcoin isp went south, also. 1957372;1579968458;mircea_popescu;what am i gonna do meanwhile, you tell me ? 1957373;1579968569;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I'll keep Qntra hosted, and I'll mark a hard pivot into outreach. I'll start by shooting cazalla an email now to see if he's alive or succumbed to "life's cheaper" in Asia. 1957374;1579968600;mircea_popescu;leaving aside what you say, which is as fine as any sayings ever were i'm sure, who you are (on the basis that is ever determined -- which is, WHAT YOU DO) is this dude who's lazily hitched his cart to what he perceives to be a moving beast of burden, and whatever, if we take it somewhere fine, and if not, i dunno... nobody could accuse you of being a lazy ineffectual fuck ? 1957375;1579968641;mircea_popescu;this procedure whereby you'll do whatever the fuck it is you feel like doing anyway, and expect the republic to feed and clothe you didn't work for alf, nor will it work for you. cuz it's pure hallucinatoria, it ain't how anything works 1957376;1579968661;mircea_popescu;you want that, go find a husband like normal women. 1957377;1579969014;mircea_popescu;this situation where qnta is BingoBoingo's "other blog" can't well continue, it's neither interesting nor useful. 1957378;1579969070;mircea_popescu;this has nothing to do with "how well you write". i'm aware this is the typical gambit of the being an engineer, he's gonna -- don't you know -- be SO GOD DAMEND GOOD at being funny/caring/whatever the girl he ain't said hi to yet is gonna... nfi, rematerialize our of his dirty sheets and start doing the laundry one day. 1957379;1579969099;mircea_popescu;that's the fantasy is it ? something along those lines, that if one jacks of ~dedicatedly~ enough in solitude eventually the picture he's spunking all over will come to life ? 1957380;1579969156;mircea_popescu;i dun have time for the retarded pre-teen's world model. either make that thing live or get off the horse so i know i have yet another job unhandled rather than think it handled while it's being slowly but "defensibly" driven into the very ground. 1957381;1579969313;BingoBoingo;Give me one month to try to shed the alfisms, and make a hard outreach push to break the 'Qntra looks a whole like like BingoBoingo's other blog' appearance. I'll include a day by day in the weekly recaps, and if material improvement isn't showing in a month... I'll pledge to #ossasepia or #trilema-hanbot if they'll have me in their castles. 1957382;1579969361;mircea_popescu;sure. 1957383;1579969366;mircea_popescu;now go do something with it. 1957384;1579969371;BingoBoingo;Thank you 1957385;1579969402;mircea_popescu;as per which foregoing coversation, the issuance of the long-overdue qntra quarterly is delayed yet again. what can i do, apologies to the interested parties. 1957386;1579971173;diana_coman;hanbot_abroad: as it happens, while looking for something else entirely, I found [http://trilema.com/2018/trilema-gender-studies/?b=schematic&e=#select][this stated schematic]. 1957387;1579977815;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/brexit-megxit-trump-trial-and-usg-casualties-in-iraq-a-roundup/ << Qntra -- Brexit, Megxit, Trump Trial, And USG Casualties In Iraq: A Roundup 1957388;1579994304;hanbot_abroad; bvt, diana_coman tyvm for the links. none are the specific itam i'm looking for, though all could be used to segue into the discussion of such, so once i (probably) peter out on the search i'll pick from there...and naturally the re-reading is pleasant. this isn't even a bad reading compass, throw an idea into chan, enter the reading linkmaze thusly! :D 1957389;1579994783;hanbot_abroad;BingoBoingo you're welcome to #t-h to your heart's content, and nothing stops you from using it for your goals before the month is out either, even if it's just to rant/wonder out loud. 1957390;1579995187;hanbot_abroad;" In the end, most of the changes I brainstormed regarding structure did not seem to benefit the content. " << inasmuch as you didn't decide to use those structural changes you contemplated, they did in fact benefit the content --you judged they weren't right, for whatever reason. they're negative space, but just as in a piece of art they're still *there*. 1957391;1579995284;hanbot_abroad;minor nitpick: "and as well" is redundant 1957392;1579995503;hanbot_abroad;the 'old' French word << the word isn't 'old' as in part of modern french, but just old. Old French is a language, like Old English; they're sufficiently different (in various aspects, from phonology to spelling to actual vocabulary) from their modern inheritors to warrant different classification. did they give you chaucer to read in school? 1957393;1579995785;hanbot_abroad;Wiktionary provides us that the etymology of the word comes from << "provides that" is a strange construction; generally a provision is a thing (hence provides us with) rather than a fact (provides us that). an obvious exception would be "provides us that thing which is xyz". also a minor point, just, you know...making a point of pointing them out lol. 1957394;1579995822;hanbot_abroad;oh good god i've been in the wrong channel the whole time. 1957395;1579995838;hanbot_abroad;at which point i widen the freaking channel name column lmao 1957396;1579995840;hanbot_abroad;sorry folks. 1957397;1579996500;BingoBoingo;hanbot_abroad: Thank you 1957398;1579997270;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/week-4-2020-review-turning-to-qntra/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Week 4 2020 Review - Turning To Qntra 1957399;1580043965;mircea_popescu;dear god 1957400;1580044002;mircea_popescu;hanbot_abroad, you should talk more, bitch. 1957401;1580044108;mircea_popescu;meanwhile http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956661 << dude, i had to actually go fish out see wtf, maybe i misread ? THE TWENTIETH WAS LAST WEEK! 1957402;1580044108;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-06 21:50:34 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956654 << this week I've commited to getting a Gales install and report complete, however next week I was indeed going to work on the final setup and testing for the mp-wp logger. If all goes well I should be free to give it another shot on around the 20th of this month 1957403;1580044108;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-06 22:05:12 mircea_popescu: incidentally lobbes , now that i'm back @travelbase or how shall i put this, shall we get back to the logger thing ? 1957404;1580045271;mircea_popescu;spyked, http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix?b=But%20what&e=if#select << ahaha ok that was lulzy. i confess it never occured to me it'd work. 1957405;1580049354;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/the-woman-who-wasnt-insulted-the-lord-who-accidentally-unearthed-the-political-stone-the-scary-that-was-always-there-and-no-santa-moroze-whatsoever/ << Trilema -- The woman who wasn't insulted, the lord who accidentally unearthed the political stone, the scary that was always there and no Santa-Moroze whatsoever. 1957406;1580064205;mircea_popescu;meh and he's not even here. 1957407;1580064225;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/eulora/2020-01-22#1001650 << look man, reversion or no reversion, it's been spamming the shit out of #eulora for the past three-four fucking days, this can't go on like this forever. 1957408;1580064225;ossabot;(eulora) 2020-01-22 lobbes: mircea_popescu: this was a bit of regression after rewriting bot from lobbesbot to auctionbot; I neglected to re-code in the "check if spoken previously before announcing" piece. I will put this on my list to fix 1957409;1580064225;mircea_popescu;i 1957410;1580064262;mircea_popescu;i've muted it for now. get back to me asap, once it's fucking fixed, and what the fuck bright idea was this to replace a working "bad" bot with a "better" one that a) dun fucking work and b) isn't even maintained. 1957411;1580068074;hanbot_abroad;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957331 << well and hopefully as something other than mischan haha 1957412;1580068074;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 09:19:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, you should talk more, bitch. 1957413;1580068086;mircea_popescu;lol was it ? 1957414;1580068157;hanbot_abroad;yeah, i was talking to nicoleci about her "etymology" series, and didn't notice i was typing into #trilema rather'n #trilema-hanbot until she higlighted me there. it was...a confusing second and a half, lol 1957415;1580069330;lobbes;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went to do a 'dry run' install of everything on the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags that I'm currently ironing out (such as ports being blocked, them 'suspending' the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin) 1957416;1580069330;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 09:21:36 mircea_popescu: meanwhile http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956661 << dude, i had to actually go fish out see wtf, maybe i misread ? THE TWENTIETH WAS LAST WEEK! 1957417;1580069402;lobbes;I will keep you updated as the ironing continues 1957418;1580073642;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957245 - prime words for the sales pitch right there, ha! 1957419;1580073643;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:49:03 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problems are that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously the afflicted are scarcely aware, but this doesn't mean they're not afflicted. 1957420;1580073739;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957253 - I was due for a re-read on ye olde crime of being an american, huh. Reflecting on when the article first found me, probably 2015ish, my reaction was to continue the path of distancing myself from the mob, but also to keep a distance from this perceived cthulhu pointing the gun at me for the happenstance of birth. The hospital analogy makes 1957421;1580073739;jfw;sense, thanks. No sense in avoiding healthful activity just because cancer is possible. 1957422;1580073739;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:55:59 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957197 << indeed it has ; look into "strict liability" [http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/][sometime] 1957423;1580073873;jfw;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-24#1956026 - thanks diana_coman, it's an honor. Re the page title, still not sure how I did that (part of the wp-admin url got prepended to the title when updating) but I fixed it. 1957424;1580073873;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-24 12:59:24 diana_coman: jfw: Keksum's 3rd genesis [http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/?b=Keksum&e=#select][is now signed and mirrored]; as you've gathered already the previous comments on your article directly, I linked that and there's no need that I see for an additional article; also, you messed up something with your Keksum's article title now. 1957425;1580073886;trinque;jfw: http://trinque.org/2020/01/20/a-republican-os-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-154 1957426;1580073893;trinque;dorion: http://trinque.org/2020/01/20/a-republican-os-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-155 1957427;1580073927;billymg;mircea_popescu: do you see any use for UI-set and DB-stored "options" in the footnotes plugin? the version in mp-wp has most of that commented out but it's still storing/referencing them which is causing weird behavior (and makes it so the only way you can override the options is to manually edit the db) 1957428;1580074001;trinque;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-22#1957089 << mmm doesn't this proposal skip filtering of e.g. script tags in comments? 1957429;1580074001;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-22 14:25:30 diana_coman: trinque: that stripping of html tags sounds like the [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-03-21#1903824][known bug related to php version]; iirc it was included in some vpatch though. 1957430;1580074023;trinque;I can almost certainly steal someone's session cookie with a comment if they do what dpb suggests. 1957431;1580074043;*;trinque looks into apply_filters, brb 1957432;1580075156;billymg;mircea_popescu: to elaborate: the original version of the footnotes plugin also includes an options.php page for saving db-stored settings. the [http://thewhet.net/footnotes.txt][version] that http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs[ships with mp-wp] does not include this 1957433;1580075299;billymg;the footnotes.php plugin has an object with 'default_options', if the options are not present in the db (e.g. on first run), they are set in the db based on the 'default_options' 1957434;1580075333;billymg;once set, the plugin loads these options from the db into 'current_options' which is used throughout the plugin 1957435;1580075615;billymg;my preference would be for replacing 'default_options' and 'current_option' with a single 'option' object in the plugin, no longer storing these in db, and letting users edit that 'options' variable in the php file instead of having to manually edit the db 1957436;1580075688;billymg;'options'* object 1957437;1580081114;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/grave-authentication-vulnerability-in-cisco-firewall-management-tool/ << Qntra -- Grave Authentication Vulnerability In Cisco Firewall Management Tool 1957438;1580082607;billymg;anyway i have something simple working, only took a few hours http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-embedded-vpatch-snippets.png 1957439;1580082671;billymg;most of the time was spent looking up php functions 1957440;1580086469;feedbot;http://bingology.net/2020/an-onramp-for-contributing-to-qntra-on-qntra/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- An Onramp For Contributing To Qntra - On Qntra 1957441;1580090216;dorion;ave1 I left you a [http://ave1.org/2020/failure-modes/#comment-556][comment] though it didn't specifically say it went to moderation. I have it saved so let me know if you had any issue getting it. 1957442;1580094815;feedbot;http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/mp-wp-bot-my-current-problem-and-possible-solutions/ << Krankendenken -- mp-wp bot: my current problem and possible solutions 1957443;1580101802;ave1;dorion, I got the pingpack and the comment went into spam, retrieved... 1957444;1580102007;ave1;and fished out another legitimate comment out of the spam bin. 1957445;1580127151;hanbot_abroad;billymg what *are* the options on footnotes, even? 1957446;1580127437;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957346 << honestly, somrthing that "suspended th service" ar all should just get ditched forthwith. 1957447;1580127437;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 16:22:00 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went to do a 'dry run' install of everything on the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags that I'm currently ironing out (such as ports being blocked, them 'suspending' the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin) 1957448;1580127474;mircea_popescu;this is the platform game, and i [http://trilema.com/2019/no-platforms/][ain't inclined] to play it. 1957449;1580127509;mircea_popescu;the natural counterbalance of a hallucinated right to "suspend" is the very real freedom to treat the hallucinator as a common scammer, which is PRECISELY what they are. 1957450;1580127575;mircea_popescu;so yeah, i'd very much prefer anyone doing anything for me treat a "suspension" for any term and for any reason as === a lifetime ban of the alleged "provider"/scammer. 1957451;1580127788;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957358 << honestly, no. i think the "option" to "pick the special chars" was useful at the onset, when i was figuring out how the world should work, but double-parens is so well established by now, even etymologically! ("every time you go on a tanget, you have to decide -- is your paranthetical is simple or double?") that it needn't be misrepresented as an option anymore, a 1957452;1580127788;mircea_popescu;s it's n olonger naything but. footnotes go into (( )) and that's that, there's no further optionality there. 1957453;1580127788;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 17:38:38 billymg: mircea_popescu: do you see any use for UI-set and DB-stored "options" in the footnotes plugin? the version in mp-wp has most of that commented out but it's still storing/referencing them which is causing weird behavior (and makes it so the only way you can override the options is to manually edit the db) 1957454;1580127799;mircea_popescu;that was iirc the main item, so they can just get soldered in altogether. 1957455;1580127852;mircea_popescu;and in general, this is how "offering options" even works : sometimes portions of code function can't be figured out by the writer, has to be figured out by the user. thus things like the eulora gfx engine scriptable parts, or the mp-wp footnote options. 1957456;1580127882;mircea_popescu;this also means the code's a preliminary, mock-up. as the user uses, the "options" become resolved into actual correct functioning, and the option-enabling portions get rewritten. 1957457;1580127910;mircea_popescu;so you know, for having had useful users, mp-wp-footnotes matured. and for the opposite, crystal space not yet. 1957458;1580128186;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957361 << speaking of this in the foregoing context, the way mp-wp's ~only~ cookie works is well ripe for a rewrite. 1957459;1580128186;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 17:40:14 trinque: I can almost certainly steal someone's session cookie with a comment if they do what dpb suggests. 1957460;1580128765;mircea_popescu;the way mp-wp session handling should work is as following : 1957461;1580128765;mircea_popescu;1. there should be a users table, wherein existent users passwords are stored hashed. 1957462;1580128765;mircea_popescu;2. there should be a sessions table, where logged in users time of log-in, ip, user-agent, session cookie are stored. sessions older than 24h should be deleted server-side. the session cookie should be a hash of at least the ip, the user agent and server date-microtime. 1957463;1580128765;mircea_popescu;3. users logging in get the cookie passed and a new record in sessions on the basis of the pw thei provided hash-matching the one in users ; logged in users get recognized on the basis of ip, user agent and session cookie identity (all three). 1957464;1580128768;mircea_popescu;steall all the cookies you want ; and mp-wp can even dispose with the htaccess ip lockdown mechanism currently in place. 1957465;1580128795;mircea_popescu;as things stand now, 1 exists (though the hash could stand improvement) but 2 doesn't and 3 is sorta-implemented. 1957466;1580128838;mircea_popescu;(but to answer trinque 's original comment : stolen cookies atm not useful on mp-wp because only specified ips can wp-admin anyway) 1957467;1580128886;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957363 << i don't understand why you think we care about this. what is this, regress all the things day or something ? 1957468;1580128887;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 17:59:07 billymg: mircea_popescu: to elaborate: the original version of the footnotes plugin also includes an options.php page for saving db-stored settings. the [http://thewhet.net/footnotes.txt][version] that http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs[ships with mp-wp] does not include this 1957469;1580128963;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957366 << how about your preference immediately becomes working on mp-wp as opposed to falsely claiming to be working on mp-wp while in fact trying to stick random unrelated garbage in there under this guise, because at the rate you're currently going im just about ready to set the bozo bit on whatever it is you do altogether. 1957470;1580128964;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 18:06:46 billymg: my preference would be for replacing 'default_options' and 'current_option' with a single 'option' object in the plugin, no longer storing these in db, and letting users edit that 'options' variable in the php file instead of having to manually edit the db 1957471;1580128976;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is this nonsense, "the original" ? what fucking original ? the world starts here, not some other place. 1957472;1580129013;mircea_popescu;footnotes plugin original, one, only, etcetera, is the one on mp-wp. what other garbage idiots did is garbage idiots did. 1957473;1580129031;mircea_popescu;could be interesting for a lol. if you're using it for your basis you're way the fuck outta here. 1957474;1580129115;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957369 << a png has the disadvantage that i can't tell, for instance, what's a link or how the url looks. 1957475;1580129115;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 20:03:18 billymg: anyway i have something simple working, only took a few hours http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-embedded-vpatch-snippets.png 1957476;1580129389;mircea_popescu;in other sighs, /me excitedly checked who the fuck that ИМ ave1 resqued from the spam que might be, went over to "knowen.org", turns out it's yet another dumbass pointless pantsuit platform-wannabe, "protected by recaptcha" to crown the shit in turds. 1957477;1580129407;mircea_popescu;smart kidds gotta waste away, don't they, it's the imperative of the moment. 1957478;1580129730;mircea_popescu;http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/mp-wp-bot-my-current-problem-and-possible-solutions/ << just ditch the shithole host you ran into. 1957479;1580129783;mircea_popescu;why the fuck are you so dedicated anyway ? wrong place, ditch the heathens at the FIRST sign of trouble. 1957480;1580129817;mircea_popescu;i walk out of shops / restaurants / whatever ALL the god damn time, for the simplest of reasons, such as "took more than thirty seconds to come for orders". 1957481;1580129827;mircea_popescu;let the servants work for a living, what the fuck is this. 1957482;1580130064;mircea_popescu;trinque, your blog is such a pain to navigate, dear god. so i want to see your previous article. well... there's no recent articles on the sidebar so i can't just ~see the title~ therefore eschew the need to click things. but let's see the archives... oh oops... this month's archive is entirely identical to you know, your latest article, for the first mile. 1957483;1580130087;mircea_popescu;how's about recent comments in sidebar and title slug in archives, no content, so they can be useful for their intended purposes ? 1957484;1580130095;diana_coman;sadly lobbes's hoster there turned out to have been quite as idiotic as they seemed [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-21#1951643][in the first place] 1957485;1580130095;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-21 04:13:30 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951637 - ugh, I have them on my list & contacted them via email but they must-account (though they did at least say they weren't all that bothered about actual address iirc). 1957486;1580130237;mircea_popescu;also, nice that you've answered those two guys, but there's some waiting on the previous one as well : http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/#comments 1957487;1580130304;mircea_popescu;reading which, i daresay to dorion that "No one yet owns GCC, primarily because I've been waiting to see if ave1 will resurface" is pretty lulzy a cocnept. 1957488;1580130318;mircea_popescu;i expect gcc will be the last owned portion, simply because of what horror it is. 1957489;1580130339;diana_coman;hopefully it's not *that prospect* that keeps ave1 from resurfacing in the first place! 1957490;1580130382;mircea_popescu;lol prolly has some part in it. 1957491;1580130558;diana_coman;speaking of resurfacing, mocky.org is [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-11#1956777][still down for me]; Mocky, am I trying the wrong url/ip? 1957492;1580130558;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-11 15:52:34 Mocky: getting it back up this weekend 1957493;1580130597;mircea_popescu;wth is that guy's problem anyway, keeps doing these drowning man bobbles 1957494;1580130627;mircea_popescu;'sthematter mocky, do the girls let you off your baluba island cage half wour every other week ? 1957495;1580131687;mircea_popescu;trinque, a system which much be understood << must 1957496;1580136041;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957382 << this was my feeling as well. i thought i'd check before proceeding to remove the code in case my judgement was incorrect. i will go ahead and remove it 1957497;1580136042;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 08:36:22 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957358 << honestly, no. i think the "option" to "pick the special chars" was useful at the onset, when i was figuring out how the world should work, but double-parens is so well established by now, even etymologically! ("every time you go on a tanget, you have to decide -- is your paranthetical is simple or double?") that it needn't be misrepresented as an optio 1957498;1580136057;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957400 << i was proposing removal of unnecessary code currently existing in mp-wp, not the addition of any. you can see from my patch history and communications in the logs that the removal of all cruft in mp-wp is what i'm working towards 1957499;1580136057;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 08:55:58 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957366 << how about your preference immediately becomes working on mp-wp as opposed to falsely claiming to be working on mp-wp while in fact trying to stick random unrelated garbage in there under this guise, because at the rate you're currently going im just about ready to set the bozo bit on whatever it is you do altogether. 1957500;1580136075;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957403 << and this is the one, in mp-wp, that currently includes code that actively writes options to db. i was proposing to remove any remnants of this completely and only leave what would essentially be some constants at the top of the file (though it sounds like even predefining some of these values at the top of the file is unnecessary and can be removed as well 1957501;1580136075;billymg;) 1957502;1580136075;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 08:56:47 mircea_popescu: footnotes plugin original, one, only, etcetera, is the one on mp-wp. what other garbage idiots did is garbage idiots did. 1957503;1580136084;billymg;i only thought it necessary to check first in case this code was left around intentionally for some reason i wasn't grasping 1957504;1580136091;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957405 << i meant it only as a brief status update, though i should not have included the png without additional context (the line numbers are clickable and the URL anchors are to your spec, e.g. #S2-L10) 1957505;1580136091;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 08:58:29 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957369 << a png has the disadvantage that i can't tell, for instance, what's a link or how the url looks. 1957506;1580136097;billymg;i will go ahead and remove the notion of options from the footnotes plugin and publish the patch for review. going forward i will make more of these calls on my own and let the published draft patches speak for themselves 1957507;1580136500;mircea_popescu;billymg i see! 1957508;1580136603;mircea_popescu;there's notwring wrong with discussing the things, on the contrary. but let's read together what you said : 1957509;1580136661;mircea_popescu;1. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957363 ; 2 : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957366 1957510;1580136661;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 17:59:07 billymg: mircea_popescu: to elaborate: the original version of the footnotes plugin also includes an options.php page for saving db-stored settings. the [http://thewhet.net/footnotes.txt][version] that http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs[ships with mp-wp] does not include this 1957511;1580136661;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 18:06:46 billymg: my preference would be for replacing 'default_options' and 'current_option' with a single 'option' object in the plugin, no longer storing these in db, and letting users edit that 'options' variable in the php file instead of having to manually edit the db 1957512;1580136673;mircea_popescu;now this dun read to you as a proposal to revert ? 1957513;1580136837;billymg;ah i see how that could read as "add new 'options' 'feature'". in my head i meant it as move from current: default_options -> db -> current_options -> code, to: options -> code 1957514;1580136867;mircea_popescu;so keep on talking about what you do an' use the experience to talk ever more clearly. 1957515;1580136906;mircea_popescu;in any case, why do you want to maintain the "options" object ? too much hassle to take out entirely ? more elegant to have all the magic strings in one place ? 1957516;1580136951;billymg;understood. i think i'm also adapting to the async nature of IRC (you may not hear a response for a few hours, possibly days, so your communication should be clear enough to not require short-loop back-and-forth) 1957517;1580136982;mircea_popescu;in the (ideally few) cases this is not feasible, people tend to mark their comms as such. 1957518;1580137020;billymg;the latter was my thinking. even for experienced operator having the magic strings together at the top of the file might be useful / make the code easier to reason with 1957519;1580137048;mircea_popescu;i can see it. 1957520;1580137082;mircea_popescu;and the way this is then easiest handled (at least in part for legacy reasons) is as an "object" which gets preloaded, options.hurr = "durr" and so on ? 1957521;1580137100;billymg;correct 1957522;1580137206;billymg;though it really wouldn't be any trouble to move those into single variable constants 1957523;1580137231;billymg;single value* constants 1957524;1580137261;mircea_popescu;whatever, let them be together, not the end of the world. 1957525;1580137346;billymg;ok, i'll clean up what i have and publish it for review shortly 1957526;1580137648;mircea_popescu;in any case http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957437 is, however subjectively justified, nevertheless only a path to polarbeard sadness, it dun work out well. 1957527;1580137648;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 10:54:52 billymg: i will go ahead and remove the notion of options from the footnotes plugin and publish the patch for review. going forward i will make more of these calls on my own and let the published draft patches speak for themselves 1957528;1580137757;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/power-rangers-pushing-taproot-into-their-bitcoin-network-client-fork/ << Qntra -- Power Rangers Pushing "Taproot" Into Their Bitcoin Network Client Fork 1957529;1580137985;billymg;mircea_popescu: sorry for that, i didn't mean to be so dramatic with the "fine, i'll just work by myself then" -- i think i'm still working out the balance between check in with a question vs. implement and seek feedback. though on review it seems in this case it was more a matter of the clarity/information density of the question/communication 1957530;1580138024;mircea_popescu;we'll live 1957531;1580138215;mircea_popescu;incidentally, it occurs to me [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/eulora/2020-01-27#1001874][discussion in #eulora] is very relevant to the problem of bois, ie sexually and socially infantile but biologically overgrown males trying to "develop software" 1957532;1580138215;ossabot;(eulora) 2020-01-27 mircea_popescu: ie, the kid who runs away from rural highschool to make it in town because he knows how hard multiplication or basic func analysis is, but doesn't know how hard making it in town is. 1957533;1580138290;mircea_popescu;this situation reccurs in the history of the young human male's tribulations on earth, whereby he runs away from school because the well familiar small difficulties are TOO MUCH TO BEAR, and "nobody really knows" whether the much larger difficulties are even large or difficulties or anything, so "let's find out" 1957534;1580138316;mircea_popescu;he couldn't learn a hundred lines of trivially repetitive multiplication table, but he'll manage subway and bus schedules. 1957535;1580138575;mircea_popescu;he's got all the shit from the school bully he's gonna take, for chrissakes! therefore he'll deal with policemen, officious intermeddlers, people in suits and all the rest. anything but some pimply faced, overweight sixteen year old, he's been stuck with him for almost fourteen months and he knows well by now NOTHING COULD BE WORSE!!! 1957536;1580144524;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957374 - thank you. looks like I forgot the closing
tag on the link prior to the blockquote. do you mind fixing it ? 1957537;1580144525;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 01:23:15 ave1: dorion, I got the pingpack and the comment went into spam, retrieved... 1957538;1580144775;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957420 - I sure hope not. ave1, if so please say ! I was mainly proceeding on previous talks of [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951497][ownership] and [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951499][genesis] in progress. 1957539;1580144775;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 09:18:54 diana_coman: hopefully it's not *that prospect* that keeps ave1 from resurfacing in the first place! 1957540;1580144775;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1: As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point. 1957541;1580144775;ossabot;Logged on 2019-11-17 12:42:50 ave1: I was genesing it, and will continue to do so. But with feedback in the loop. So, for example, gcc comes with an old STL html documentation tree, can this be dropped? (I would say yes) 1957542;1580145533;mircea_popescu;dorion, you didn't do nuttin, it's his crowns an' thorns. 1957543;1580145578;diana_coman;aww, dorion , that was my fun with it, don't take it all that seriously. 1957544;1580146595;mircea_popescu;dorion, o damn, you're rifht, i fucked the tags myself. sorry. 1957545;1580148456;ave1;dorion, I updated the comment 1957546;1580148476;ave1;also, don't worry about pushing / asking. I've no problem with that 1957547;1580148604;ave1;as for the genesis, I have the first steps, but are a bit overwhelmed with the thing. 1957548;1580156731;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957473 - I admit I'll love he who takes up that cross. 1957549;1580156731;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 13:32:08 mircea_popescu: dorion, you didn't do nuttin, it's his crowns an' thorns. 1957550;1580156809;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957474 - I didn't think I was pushing too hard, given his words. and thanks, I'm up for fun, but sometimes find being serious yields the most fun :) 1957551;1580156810;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 13:32:53 diana_coman: aww, dorion , that was my fun with it, don't take it all that seriously. 1957552;1580156843;dorion;mircea_popescu np on the tags. 1957553;1580156869;diana_coman;that it does at times, certainly. 1957554;1580157004;dorion;ave1 thanks for fixing the comment and likewise on the pushing/asking. way easier to deal with than silence :) 1957555;1580157100;dorion;ave1 re gcc being overwhelming, why don't you take a step back from it for a bit and we work out a highlevel strategy first. for one, we're not even sure we want 4.9.4. did you see [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-09#1954668][this ping] ? 1957556;1580157100;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-09 16:55:49 dorion_road: ave1 [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/11/implementing-tmsr-os/#comment-51][the latest] on the gcc discussion is 4.4.7, 4.7.4 and 4.9.4 are up for consideration. 1957557;1580157188;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/novel-coronavirus-panic-hit-fiat-markets-as-china-extends-new-year-holiday/ << Qntra -- Novel Coronavirus Panic Hit Fiat Markets As China Extends New Year Holiday 1957558;1580157329;dorion;the summary there is 4.4.7 is what mp mainly uses and 4.7.4 is what Gales Linux uses. 4.7.4 is the last gcc version to not require any [http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/introducing-gales-linux-a-cross-bootstrapped-do-it-yourself-fully-static-discriminatory-distribution/#footnote_1_66][c++ to bootstrap]. 1957559;1580157493;dorion;trinque further notes that apparently 4.7.4 can be built with [http://trinque.org/2019/12/28/a-republican-os-part-1/#footnote_4_62][tcc] 1957560;1580157624;dorion;re 4.9.4 diana_coman [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/11/implementing-tmsr-os/#comment-39][noted] GNAT and Eulora have been built/tested with it and it's unknown at present how earlier versions will fair on that front. 1957561;1580157915;dorion;ave1 I hope those above lines didn't make it seem ~more~ overwhleming, but the bottom line I'd like to get across is yeah, there's a mountain of work and while it's all achievable it has to be sustainable. let's work with urguncy, but not haste and make sure our early decisions are properly weighed. 1957562;1580158100;dorion;re overwhelming, to my eye the best thing you can do atm is make the work as public as possible so the people who want to help you can. 1957563;1580171476;feedbot;http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/ << billymg -- Embedded vpatch formatting for mp-wp, draft vpatch for review 1957564;1580173112;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-15#1956896 << here's some lulz : in 11985, the "austral argentino" replaced the peso argentino at a rate of 1 austral = 1000 pesos argentinos. in 1992, the "peso convertible" replaced the austral argentino, at a rate of 1 peso convertible = 10,000 australes. therefore, between the pre 1985 peso and the post 1992 peso there's a relationship of 1:10^7 1957565;1580173112;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-15 17:57:50 feedbot: http://bingology.net/2020/argentina-getting-pissy-with-uruguay-envy/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Argentina Getting Pissy With Uruguay Envy 1957566;1580173119;mircea_popescu;seven years, seven degrees of magnitude. 1957567;1580173124;mircea_popescu;this has by and large held hence. 1957568;1580173176;BingoBoingo;The USG "World Bank" of all folks *encouraged* Argentina to embrace the convertability trap 1957569;1580173187;mircea_popescu;before that there was also a "peso ley 18.188", replacing a "peso moneda nacional" und so weiter 1957570;1580173229;mircea_popescu;The peso ley 18.188 replaced the peso moneda nacional at a rate of 100 to 1 and was itself replaced by the peso argentino at a rate of 10,000 to 1 (the thing the austral replaced) 1957571;1580173443;BingoBoingo;At this rate they'll be getting a "Peso Solidario" in the near future. 1957572;1580173444;mircea_popescu;basically the place's been economically in the equivalent of "having just lost a major war" since 1880 1957573;1580173450;mircea_popescu;sure, 1:100`000 1957574;1580173544;BingoBoingo;Here's there a lot of noise now about reforming the 2008 retirement reform that was itself a "reform" of the 1995 reform. 1957575;1580173657;BingoBoingo;The 2008 one apparently ended up thus far costing 8 times what they projected back in 2008 1957576;1580174588;mircea_popescu;the fundamental problem with permitting the enemy to get involved with the state. 1957577;1580176131;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/some-altcoin-forked-off-of-bitcoin-forking-again-to-implement-developer-tax-on-block-rewards/ << Qntra -- Some altcoin Forked Off Of Bitcoin Forking Again To Implement Developer Tax On Block Rewards 1957578;1580176793;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957408 << roger that. Yeah, the 'oops suspended' thing was pretty odd. I'm fine just declaring "Shinjiru" a scammer and finding someone else then 1957579;1580176793;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-27 13:01:32 mircea_popescu: http://www.krankendenken.com/2020/01/mp-wp-bot-my-current-problem-and-possible-solutions/ << just ditch the shithole host you ran into. 1957580;1580176797;lobbes;http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957409 << I think I may have been a little blinded by my desire to not keep you waiting forever for this thing. But after actually talking it through (and getting proper sleep) I can see that trying to ride that rabid horse wasn't going to pay off in the long run 1957581;1580176797;ericbot;Logged on 2020-01-27 13:02:26 mircea_popescu: why the fuck are you so dedicated anyway ? wrong place, ditch the heathens at the FIRST sign of trouble. 1957582;1580177555;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957376 << ah crap, sorry i missed this earlier. they are more like constants (for adjusting e.g. whether you want decimal or roman numeral footnote identifiers) that were stored in the db because the average wordpress luser can't be trusted to edit a few variables in a php file and needs checkboxes he can click instead 1957583;1580177555;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-27 08:25:46 hanbot_abroad: billymg what *are* the options on footnotes, even? 1957584;1580178128;billymg;hanbot_abroad: if you want to take a look i just published a [http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/][draft] of the vpatch. i think more can be done in terms of cleanup of the old code but i wanted to get some eyes on it before doing another pass 1957585;1580178281;mircea_popescu;" Non-debate theory is my invention. Non-debate, is to gain time to work hard. When you debate, everything becomes more complicated and it wastes time. Nothing can be done. Don’t debate, and just try. Be brave and experiment." what ludicrous, half-literate, anachronistical nonsense. where's the gook dog been living under for the past decade, a rock in his native chinastan ? 1957586;1580178310;mircea_popescu;working debate, proceeding usefully towards actionable results' been a thing for a while now. 1957587;1580178340;mircea_popescu;less reading deng derpy-ping, more log reading. it ain't the 50s anymore. 1957588;1580179521;billymg;how much longer can socialism even survive in a post bitcoin world? is the idea to scam as much as possible before it goes away forever? the failed forkcoin looking exactly like the failed state 1957589;1580180579;mircea_popescu;socialism can and will survive indefinitely. like ordinary filth, vermin infestation and so on, it's the natural order, prevalent inside graves, abandoned human dwellings, any other disturbed then neglected terrain. 1957590;1580180643;mircea_popescu;all children are born socialist the way they're born dumb, deaf and iliterate, with no taste for food and no taste for music, with no sexual capacity or experience, acultural, amoral and so forth. 1957591;1580180646;mircea_popescu;some stay that way. 1957592;1580181126;mircea_popescu;in fact, i doubt if anything ~but~ socialism is even meaningful to small children, much like nothing but tit is meaningful to even smaller ones. by extension reproduction-as-only-function females, the dedicated mothers, grandmothers etc with no other activities or preoccupations besides the production and early rearing of children are liable to revert to their mindset and worldview. 1957593;1580181202;mircea_popescu;so i really wouldn't be worried about any eventual extermination of socialism. if you don't wash you become filthy, and if you don't think you become a socialist. these'll survive, being as they are the names for a lack. lacks are eternal. 1957594;1580181686;*;billymg nods 1957595;1580181862;billymg;that certainly describes my own trajectory. developing out of the socialist mindset was like any other basic developmental process, in that it required some risk/initiative and continued effort 1957596;1580181921;billymg;and still requires the effort. it seems the further i get from the child-me the more aware i am of the child-me that remains 1957597;1580181967;mircea_popescu;there's a self-obvious reason socialism existed traditionally as the political mode of [http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/?b=Rustics&e=misery#select][subsistence peasants], and then became an urban matter once industrialization produced of idle and useless vagrants in sufficient quantities. 1957598;1580182315;mircea_popescu;[http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/][feeding others] always has the potential to produce socialism. one approach is to also [http://trilema.com/2016/portrait-of-an-adult-woman/][give them something to do] -- in which case it produces [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-23#1955937][art], the best form of socialism avaialble. 1957599;1580182315;ossabot;Logged on 2019-12-23 02:18:41 mp_en_viaje: to be perfectly clear & understand each other : the ENTIRETY of stage, from "broadway" to "highbrow theatre" to ballet to ice skating to ~EVERYTHING ELSE~, the absolutely and strictly only reason ANYTHING like the stage exists in contemporary degeneracy, 1957600;1580187891;billymg;those were some good reads and re-reads, [http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/?b=Survival&e=function#select][this] certainly eases the paranoia that still creeps up every now and then 1957601;1580188056;billymg;btw in a few i'll be in cr for about a week. this past week i've been setting up travel iron, archival and transfer procedures, etc. the digital part of the move proving much more complicated than the physical 1957602;1580188222;billymg;looking forward to being completely done with the move and settled in early march -- five short weeks away! 1957603;1580188246;billymg;in a few days* 1957604;1580188600;billymg;after that, no more excuses. and my work and communications will reflect that 1957605;1580189098;jfw;billymg: commented on your vpatch draft, probably went to spam. 1957606;1580189299;billymg;approved it, ty 1957607;1580189529;jfw;trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957361 - independent of the proposed session cookie change, in theory this is not so: there's a whitelist for the tags allowed in comments. In practice it seems to work too. It's in the ever so intuitively named wp-includes/kses.php 1957608;1580189529;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 17:40:14 trinque: I can almost certainly steal someone's session cookie with a comment if they do what dpb suggests. 1957609;1580190958;jfw;ah, possibly trinque is correct too, the fix got fixed. http://thewhet.net/2019/03/mp-wp-patch-for-enabling-html-comments/ 1957610;1580192287;billymg;jfw: thanks for the quick and thorough review. i left a response to your comments 1957611;1580192671;billymg;i think the most involved was the one about styling. it's tricky because the ideal width for a column of text in an article is not the same as the ideal width for a pane displaying code 1957612;1580192800;billymg;i think i lean towards displaying code exactly as it is, even if this means some horizontal scrolling _within_ a pane, rather than machine-wrapped lines (which can be disastrous for legibility) 1957613;1580192812;jfw;you're welcome. and yeah, no fully satisfying fix there that I'm yet aware of 1957614;1580192970;jfw;Wrapped lines are something you can get used to perhaps. My historical preference was to pick a fixed width (typically 80) and use the text editor to wrap at that with language-aware indentation, but I understand mircea_popescu to be firmly against this. 1957615;1580193107;jfw;I'll need to duck out of the discussion for a day or two though; been falling behind on my own priorities. Wanted to chime in though since I'd been recently dealing with blogging snippets. 1957616;1580193140;billymg;no worries! 1957617;1580193283;billymg;it's also on my todo list to eventually create a reference theme for mp-wp. this should be an opportunity to better support the code "content type" within the context of a blog 1957618;1580193560;billymg;btw, when you say "language-aware indentation", do you mean something that would produce a block like http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/comment-page-1/#S1-L136 ? 1957619;1580193604;billymg;that one i formatted manually but in the saltmines had "linter" running which would do the same thing on every file save 1957620;1580193756;*;billymg checks time, goes to get ready for bed 1957621;1580193764;jfw;yes, vim and emacs for example do this automatically for known file types. 1957622;1580194173;jfw;billymg: realized I might not have quite understood what you're asking - I meant indentation strictly, not adding line breaks, if that's what the linter does. Much harder thing to do mechanically and well. 1957623;1580199688;bvt;mircea_popescu: since this point was raised in #ossasepia, a ping: i did provide the answer (as best as i could) to http://bvt-trace.net/2020/01/re-pbrt/#comment-110 1957624;1580204642;mircea_popescu;bvt, i did see that, but i took it as a simple stop-gap non-answer. it's there serving a political purpose, i don't have cause to take offense for neglect or anything, which i don't ; but it's not ordinarily much of an answer, as there's no proceeding on it. 1957625;1580205018;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957532 << this being usually indicative of poor data structures & organization to begin with. 1957626;1580205018;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 01:20:54 billymg: btw in a few i'll be in cr for about a week. this past week i've been setting up travel iron, archival and transfer procedures, etc. the digital part of the move proving much more complicated than the physical 1957627;1580205043;mircea_popescu;one of the many benefits of travel, it forces the review and fixing of bad trees. 1957628;1580205178;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957543 << imo this is the wrong choice in context. 1957629;1580205178;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 02:39:59 billymg: i think i lean towards displaying code exactly as it is, even if this means some horizontal scrolling _within_ a pane, rather than machine-wrapped lines (which can be disastrous for legibility) 1957630;1580205192;mircea_popescu;one-glance is more important 1957631;1580205894;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957545 << this is a misunderstanding. wrt code, mircea_popescu is firmly against spaces-as-substitute-tabs, on the theory that duble vowels are stupid and triple-vowels pure linguistic breakdown. there's no fucking reason to keep clucking at the same button over and over like a maniac ; and besides there's semantic difference between the two, spaces-as-tabs are just fucking 1957632;1580205894;mircea_popescu; barbaric. 1957633;1580205894;mircea_popescu;wrt text, mircea_popescu is firmly against machine newlines, because text is supposed to maintain auctorial intent not machine convenience, and the unit is the paragraph, and further considerations. 1957634;1580205894;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 02:42:48 jfw: Wrapped lines are something you can get used to perhaps. My historical preference was to pick a fixed width (typically 80) and use the text editor to wrap at that with language-aware indentation, but I understand mircea_popescu to be firmly against this. 1957635;1580205895;mircea_popescu;wrt code however, mircea_popescu has no firm oppinion on line length, or what to do about it (apparently he also doesn't have a firm oppinion on discussing himself in the third person, which strikes the fourth person mp, that being the first person reading itself in the third person, as a little odd). 1957636;1580205899;mircea_popescu;there's the argument that very long lines are a symptom of poor writing habits, and if one re-wrote his code such that "fitting code to viewport" is never an issue the code won't thereby suffer (and if this means ditching idiocies like "object oriented" and dead-end wanna-be nonlanguages -- well, it's a public service). 1957637;1580205905;mircea_popescu;then again have you seen my/his (hey, if dumbass bois can be denoted by complex pronominal constructions of little sense and even less purpose, why can't i be my/his!!!!) bash kb+ one-liners ? the man's insane! 1957638;1580205908;mircea_popescu;there's also the argument that the compiler's the arbiter of code, and if ~it~ doesn't complain then fuck you. but in any case i really am not advanced enough to have the impression i have something to say on that matter. 1957639;1580205911;mircea_popescu;now, all this becomes entangled once we apply our [http://trinque.org/2019/12/29/a-republican-os-part-2/#comment-142][literate coding standards], because suddenly the code-vs-text difference above dissolves, and wtf are you saying, mircea_popescu ?! 1957640;1580205948;mircea_popescu;what i'm saying here to billymg is that he really should look into how trilema flows the content of logs such that they fit in the allocated space, imo that's the only way to go about ths problem 1957641;1580205986;mircea_popescu;and i think it's extensible : the same exact process should be applied to all code displayers ; it'll handle comments correctly by default, and people who don't like what it does to their code should write their code otherwise. 1957642;1580206111;mircea_popescu;in any case, the "machine-wrapped lines" refers to the machine pissing spurious characters into the text, NOT to how any terminal ~displays~ the text. what's wrong is specifically comma-slash-n, a syntactucally forbidden construction, \n can only follow a dot, questionmark, exclanation point etc. 1957643;1580206134;mircea_popescu;apparently also a space :p 1957644;1580206248;mircea_popescu;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957549 << your example instantly falls down on its own power, btw : think you, to scroll right to see portions of the top lines i now have to scroll down such that the lines in question are off the viewport ? how do i know when i scrolled enough ? 1957645;1580206248;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 02:52:39 billymg: btw, when you say "language-aware indentation", do you mean something that would produce a block like http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/comment-page-1/#S1-L136 ? 1957646;1580227959;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957561 << with this in mind i made some adjustments to the CSS that i think improve the display quite a bit http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/#S1-L1 1957647;1580227959;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 06:06:31 mircea_popescu: one-glance is more important 1957648;1580228158;billymg;i reduced the tab-width and added the css line wrapping jfw suggested 1957649;1580228295;billymg;there should be no more horizontal scrolling, but potentially depending on browser vintage some of the css attributes may not be supported. if it looks off to anyone please let me know along with browser version so i can look into it 1957650;1580228997;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957556 << seriously. i was ashamed at myself for how long i'd let it go on. completely wrapped up in the saltmines i deluded myself into thinking [http://trilema.com/2018/heres-how-pantsuitism-christianity-ruined-civilisation-in-both-the-ancient-and-the-modern-world/?b=But&e=it%20on#select][i didn't need it] 1957651;1580228998;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 06:03:38 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957532 << this being usually indicative of poor data structures & organization to begin with. 1957652;1580231068;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957575 << i'm not sure i follow here. you would need to scroll right to read the line with the regex and then back left to continue downward (since i've already updated the formatting of the patch viewer on my site so that lines now wrap to fit the viewport, here is what i was referring to: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=p1jb ) 1957653;1580231068;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 06:24:08 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957549 << your example instantly falls down on its own power, btw : think you, to scroll right to see portions of the top lines i now have to scroll down such that the lines in question are off the viewport ? how do i know when i scrolled enough ? 1957654;1580231224;billymg;i personally prefer the formatting in the first block because the newlines and indentation make it very easy to see that exactly one condition is being tested (the result of preg_match_all) and that preg_match_all is being passed exactly 4 arguments 1957655;1580231457;billymg;that probably wasn't the best example for "how to manually format your code to fit in the viewport", since the regex line still goes beyond the max column width, but i was mostly trying to make sure i understood what jfw meant by "language-aware indentation" from his editor 1957656;1580231565;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/entire-argentine-judiciary-paralyzed-as-computers-stop-working-for-them/ << Qntra -- Entire Argentine Judiciary Paralyzed As Computers Stop Working For Them 1957657;1580231568;billymg;and whether or not that was similar to what a "linter" would do (which is closer to the first block, depending on how it's configured) 1957658;1580237417;mircea_popescu;billymg, in the original example i looked at, line [http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/comment-page-1/#S1-L149][149] reads : "$footnotes_options['superscript'] = (array_key_exists('superscript', $_POST)) ? true : false;" 1957659;1580237498;mircea_popescu;the portion "$footnotes_options['superscript'] = (array_key_exists('superscript', $_" is visible on my browser. in order to actually see the "POST)) ? true : false;" portion of it, i'd have to scroll right. however, the right scrollbar is under line 413. if i scroll that far down, the topmost line is in the high 300s, meaning that i can't observe the effect scrolling right has upon line 149. 1957660;1580237558;mircea_popescu;this is remedied in the new version, because while the horiz scrollbar is still there for some reason, there's no need of it, as the actual width matches the window width, so there's no leeway to scroll left/right 1957661;1580237606;mircea_popescu;why /]] anyways ?! 1957662;1580237633;billymg;> because while the horiz scrollbar is still there for some reason, there's no need of it, as the actual width matches the window width << this might be because the hashes at the top of the diff are not being broken in your browser 1957663;1580237649;mircea_popescu;128MB default memory limit for a PHP script << this is not factual ; there's no default limit for a php script, it's set by config file, you can make it any value you wish. 1957664;1580237685;mircea_popescu;they're broken, 1e69 - b26d299c1f0e9c11631a78c46f95913bd 1957665;1580237762;billymg;hrm, that's strange. that was my only guess as to what be causing the ghost horizontal scroll bar (those lines needed a special case handling with `word-wrap:break-word;` to properly wrap) 1957666;1580237781;billymg;what could be* 1957667;1580237781;mircea_popescu;hence my "look into how trilema does logs" 1957668;1580237796;mircea_popescu;but yes, you prolly have "scroll:show all" or somesuch' 1957669;1580237821;billymg;no, no setting there, so whatever's default (which i believe is overflow: auto) 1957670;1580237850;billymg;in my version of firefox there is no scroll bar, but lemme take a look at the css for trilema logs... 1957671;1580238159;billymg;ok, so trilema logs uses `word-wrap: break-all` on the entire content column. i used jfw's suggestion of `white-space: pre-wrap` on the code column because it wraps long lines without splitting individual strings 1957672;1580238202;billymg;but i'm not even sure yet if that's what's causing the ghost scrollbar you're seeing, since you say the text is properly wrapping within the viewport and the scroll appears unnecessary 1957673;1580238394;billymg;hrm, i'm not seeing anything else in the trilema logs css that would fix it. so the space to the right of the pane is completely empty, not a single line extending past the viewport's edge? is it a lot of empty space to the right (in terms of pixels, inches, or however)? 1957674;1580238641;diana_coman;billymg: why is the viewport necessary? 1957675;1580238710;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957590 << ahh, i see what you mean. yes that block was particularly bad in the first version, mostly due to the insane default css tab-width setting. it's also something that i tend not to notice because i don't use the scrollbars themselves for scrolling (trackpad on a laptop instead) 1957676;1580238711;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 15:04:59 mircea_popescu: the portion "$footnotes_options['superscript'] = (array_key_exists('superscript', $_" is visible on my browser. in order to actually see the "POST)) ? true : false;" portion of it, i'd have to scroll right. however, the right scrollbar is under line 413. if i scroll that far down, the topmost line is in the high 300s, meaning that i can't observe the effect scrolling right has upon line 149. 1957677;1580238875;billymg;diana_coman: i'm not sure what you mean. if there's no viewport then the content column of the blog becomes the "viewport" -- e.g. http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-19-mar-2016/ 1957678;1580238923;billymg;so i could remove the 1px gray border and increase the width by about 20px so that it goes right to the edges of my blog's content column, but that would still be a viewport, no? 1957679;1580238993;billymg;also fwiw the width of the viewport i have set in my blog's theme css, not in the plugin. the css in the plugin was left intentionally bare-bones so that users could style it to best fit their own blog layouts 1957680;1580239028;diana_coman;billymg: I don't get why is the code separated from the rest of the text as such; for one thing the test article there for instance did not work well at all on zoom in/out in my firefox 1957681;1580239120;diana_coman;visual separation via background or similar, sure; but why is more than that needed? (and I'm truly asking aka if indeed there's a good reason for it, fine; I just don't currently see the reason) 1957682;1580239289;billymg;> visual separation via background or similar, sure; but why is more than that needed? << this is the main reason, yes, and i thought that i kept that to a minimum (1px light gray border is all really) 1957683;1580239334;billymg;the width of my codeblock column vs. the width of by blog content column vs. the width of the blog "layout" (white bg) is all set in my theme, not in the plugin 1957684;1580239369;diana_coman;billymg: hm, why the scrollbars then? 1957685;1580239430;billymg;ohhhh, i misunderstood mp's comment 1957686;1580239448;billymg;re: scrollbars 1957687;1580239485;billymg;sorry, one sec, lemme make an adjustment... 1957688;1580239608;billymg;ok, do you mind refreshing to see if that fixed what you were seeing? 1957689;1580239662;diana_coman;billymg: fixed indeed! 1957690;1580239667;billymg;awesome! 1957691;1580239778;billymg;and thanks for bearing with me during the live style tweaking 1957692;1580239931;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957592 << [http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/comment-page-1/#selection-87.8-125.15][this] was my rationale. from actual testing it proved safe across languages (with only a handful of exceptions in the mp-wp genesis' 162k lines) 1957693;1580239932;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 15:06:47 mircea_popescu: why /]] anyways ?! 1957694;1580239984;billymg;it's short and closest to the original [[]] that was suggested but without failing in bash snippets 1957695;1580240104;diana_coman;np; looks not bad atm though I'd even strikethrough the deleted lines tbh 1957696;1580240684;billymg;diana_coman: ty. re: the line styling, each line has its own class, so can be trivially styled at the theme level to suit any author's preference. i think it should be up to the blog's author to decide how they present their content (and if they do a horrible job of it, their readership loss is on them too) 1957697;1580240913;diana_coman;billymg: o.O style it line by line?? 1957698;1580240924;billymg;haha no no 1957699;1580240943;billymg;e.g. the removed lines have class="line-removed" set on them 1957700;1580240969;billymg;so you can go in your theme css and add any styles you want for span.line-removed { } 1957701;1580240987;diana_coman;ah, I see; right, colours and/or anything else up to the css; works. 1957702;1580241214;billymg;i see how "each line has its own class" is unclear and could read as "has its own _unique_ class" -- should have said "each line has a class based on its type" 1957703;1580242060;*;billymg will bbl 1957704;1580242172;mircea_popescu;yeah, scrollbars gone now 1957705;1580242272;mircea_popescu;billymg, my question was rather why not simply ]] 1957706;1580243967;mircea_popescu;in other news, found and quashed yet another utf bug. http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-11-mar-2013/ was only displaying up to http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-11-mar-2013#537603 because the next line contained 👍 which is a wtf 1957707;1580248574;mod6;'mod6_auction' is my new irc account for bidding on the foundation's auction for the dell servers. 1957708;1580248613;mod6;I'm hoping that if I throw in a bid with my mod6_auction IRC registration for auction #1077, this won't be an issue. 1957709;1580248862;mod6;I guess on the other hand, if the auction goes bid-less, then I'll just buy the machine for the reserve price from the foundation. 1957710;1580248875;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/chinese-one-dollar-bill-shipment-seized-in-minnesota/ << Qntra -- Chinese One Dollar Bill Shipment Seized In Minnesota 1957711;1580249189;mod6;Any thoughts on the better course of action? 1957712;1580249221;BingoBoingo;!Xview 1077 1957713;1580249221;auctionbot;Sell order # 1077: Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ Opening: 17mn ecu Leading Bid: None Ending: 2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 UTC (1 hours 38 mins) 1957714;1580249228;BingoBoingo;!Xview 1078 1957715;1580249228;auctionbot;Sell order # 1078: Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ Opening: 17mn ecu Leading Bid: 18mn ecu Ending: 2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 UTC (1 hours 38 mins) 1957716;1580249269;BingoBoingo;mod6: I don't know that it's a big deal. I strongly suspect you are buying it at the reserve price. 1957717;1580249307;mod6;That's fine too. I do actually want the server, so if bidding on it works, I'm fine with that as well. 1957718;1580255163;auctionbot;Sell order # 1077 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: mod6 1957719;1580255165;auctionbot;Sell order # 1078 has ENDED: Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ SOLD to BingoBoingo for 18mn ecu. Attn: mod6 1957720;1580255451;mod6;Alright, well looks I am buying 'Server-A' since there were no bids. Will pay 0.01700000 BTC to jurov (Foundation Treasurer). 1957721;1580255501;mod6;BingoBoingo: I'm not sure what the exact protocol here is, but I'm guessing you can pay me if you'd rather, since I ran the auction for the Foundation. 1957722;1580255546;BingoBoingo;mod6: Sure, do you want to make an invoice? 1957723;1580255551;mod6;(I then, in turn, will send the sum over to jurov.) 1957724;1580255578;mod6;Ah, is that how it usually goes? Auction creator invoices the winner of the auction? 1957725;1580255832;mod6;!!invoice BingoBoingo 0.018 Winner of Auction #1078 (Foundation's Dell R610 Server in Uruguay) 1957726;1580255838;deedbot;Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1_-s 1957727;1580255981;billymg;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957636 << for bash and things like nested lists/arrays (i believe you were the first to point that out to me in an earlier discussion actually) 1957728;1580255981;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 16:24:33 mircea_popescu: billymg, my question was rather why not simply ]] 1957729;1580256041;billymg;mircea_popescu: also responded to your comment on the post just now, the regex matches content between both open and close delimiters so that's why only adding the / to the close was necessary. i.e. there can be as many [[ in the code as you want and it won't bother the matcher 1957730;1580256275;mod6;!!v E87C94F1499C7735DB00C3A3973170B1C0BD469DE5BBCD07DF2A3780739EFA0D 1957731;1580256279;deedbot;Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.018 << Winner of Auction #1078 (Foundation's Dell R610 Server in Uruguay) 1957732;1580256488;mod6;!!pay jurov 0.017 1957733;1580256493;deedbot;Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=WnHz 1957734;1580256681;BingoBoingo;!!v F3E376681323D49537688A0789271FB1ECAE0905927B901D1F40C7D35227A78E 1957735;1580256684;deedbot;BingoBoingo paid mod6 invoice 6 1957736;1580256688;mod6;!!v 69D33AF2BEE2D7948DCF9AEF91599BBA2050793B2288E0335E2DBF9173AE6A9A 1957737;1580256691;deedbot;mod6 paid jurov 0.017 1957738;1580256750;mod6;jurov: Sale of Foundation Server-A (auctionbot auction #1077, paying reserve price) see http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ 1957739;1580256767;mod6;Thanks BingoBoingo 1957740;1580257074;mod6;!!pay jurov 0.018 1957741;1580257080;deedbot;Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1PAG 1957742;1580257294;mod6;!!v 17FAC8B5F9FCD4B2777C04E1768304D6F8219E2E996264A7D432E874D8622754 1957743;1580257298;deedbot;mod6 paid jurov 0.018 1957744;1580257394;mod6;jurov: Sale of Foundation Server-B (auctionbot auction #1078, BingoBoingo winner @ 18mn ECU; 0.01800000 BTC) see http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ ^ 1957745;1580258930;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/openbsd-mail-server-opensmtpd-allows-remote-exectution-of-arbitrary-shell-commands-as-root/ << Qntra -- OpenBSD Mail Server OpenSMTPD Allows Remote Exectution Of Arbitrary Shell Commands As Root 1957746;1580267661;mircea_popescu;jfw, speaking of http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/whats-on-my-mind/#comment-177 i expect one of the better examples could be perhaps http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-01-08#1767152 ; i dunno if it's universally as obvious from context as it is to me that indeed i'd have paid the tranny had nobody complained. perhaps even after, had it been litigating less retardedly. 1957747;1580267661;ossabot;Logged on 2018-01-08 12:18:53 btcvixen: i would have been fine if ben_vulpes did not blow up my spot. 1957748;1580267897;mircea_popescu;i really don't give that much of a shit ; unless it starts getting in my way odds are i'll ignore it. this isn't even laziness or [http://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/?b=wants&e=alone#select][identity] as much as [http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/?b=in%20that%20I%20can%20not%20see&e=it#select][actual political philosophy], and as such rather 1957749;1580267898;mircea_popescu; unlikely to change. 1957750;1580269661;billymg;mircea_popescu: replied on my blog 1957751;1580269756;billymg;this tag business is a hard task! 1957752;1580270666;mircea_popescu;billymg, congrats, so now you understand parsing better. 1957753;1580270690;mircea_popescu;the / is spurious. yes, people who get the tag misidentified can just replace the literal [ with an escaped value. 1957754;1580270742;mircea_popescu;also, i don't think it's intelligent to ban footnotes from code blocks necessarily. 1957755;1580270786;billymg;agree, i was hoping to have a fancy demo of footnotes within codeblocks until i ran into the issue of the (()) false positives in some code samples 1957756;1580270789;mircea_popescu;will have to say what others think. imo if you can manage to make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor, footnotes in codeblocks are great things 1957757;1580270792;mircea_popescu;if not however, iffier. 1957758;1580270814;mircea_popescu;billymg, you realise everyone putting code into blog does some escaping anyways. 1957759;1580270824;mircea_popescu;that's what sed's for. 1957760;1580271027;billymg;fair enough 1957761;1580271071;billymg;> make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor << i'm not sure what the select/dblclick is referring to here 1957762;1580271245;billymg;oh nm, so when selecting code to copy paste the 'iv' for a footnote isn't also included 1957763;1580281915;jurov;mod6: okay 1957764;1580287675;spyked;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957335 <-- yeah, someone accidentally a verb there. seems using CL's built-in reader opens the door to all sorts of weird if improperly handled. I think I got it right this time tho 1957765;1580287675;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-26 09:41:00 mircea_popescu: spyked, http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix?b=But%20what&e=if#select << ahaha ok that was lulzy. i confess it never occured to me it'd work. 1957766;1580287764;spyked;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-21#1957068 <-- ty and np. I'm a tad behind on that front too, will read and answer asap 1957767;1580287764;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-21 12:43:04 billymg: spyked: left a response to your comment http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-85 1957768;1580287974;spyked;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957569 <-- imo this gap between code and text is resolvable: code, as written by human, is ~also~ a particular representation of an ast. so whatever tool is able to eat an ast (immediately brings to mind "the compiler", as it stands) should also be able to print it back formatted according to user-defined rules. 1957769;1580287974;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-28 06:18:27 mircea_popescu: there's also the argument that the compiler's the arbiter of code, and if ~it~ doesn't complain then fuck you. but in any case i really am not advanced enough to have the impression i have something to say on that matter. 1957770;1580290250;spyked;mircea_popescu, answer'd your comment: http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-93 (for now it's in billymg's moderation queue) 1957771;1580290269;*;spyked bbl, saltmines 1957772;1580306324;mircea_popescu;spyked, text is nothing of the kind, review the [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2017-08-11#1697164][various] [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-06-27#1830240][ambiguity] discussion. 1957773;1580306324;ossabot;Logged on 2017-08-11 14:37:00 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down. 1957774;1580306324;ossabot;Logged on 2018-06-27 17:39:09 mircea_popescu: the problem though remains, and it goes right into ye olde orthogonality and language discussion ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772426 ) : for sigs to mean anything useful they must not mean anything systematical. 1957775;1580312146;billymg;spyked: comment approved 1957776;1580316011;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/france-uniformed-firefighters-and-riot-police-brawl/ << Qntra -- France: Uniformed Firefighters And Riot Police Brawl 1957777;1580322862;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/harvard-chemistry-chair-arrested-over-false-statements-to-usg-agencies/ << Qntra -- Harvard Chemistry Chair Arrested Over "False Statements To USG Agencies" 1957778;1580331472;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957220 - I know you're around, but fugit irreparabile tempus, etc. 1957779;1580331472;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:21:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957172 << too long for what lol, i'm still around. now, what are you asking me ? 1957780;1580331488;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957236 - ok, point taken and that for sure helps clarify. perhaps I didn't correctly infer what you meant by [http://dorion-mode.com/2019/11/jwrd-computing-the-why-how-what-and-way-forward/#comment-28][not wanting face to face to be feasible] though. 1957781;1580331488;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:38:50 mircea_popescu: so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not as much as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed) 1957782;1580331531;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957240 - in aiming to have something concrete where we had the highest competitive advantage and long term, sustainable leverage for both ourselve and clients, we had been limit 1957783;1580331531;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:42:14 mircea_popescu: what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ? as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ? 1957784;1580331533;dorion;ing ourselves. 1957785;1580331573;dorion;e.g. law firms and banks here pretty muuch all have terrible practices and they know it - to a degree, but we were thinking helping them harden their windows systems was carrying too much opportunity cost and there's already competition there. 1957786;1580331618;dorion;plus, banks and brokers have their balls in a regulatory vice which takes away a lot of the principal's agency. So our thinking was to approach the principals as individuals and consult them personally, not "their" company. 1957787;1580331694;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957244 - that's the biggest takeaway I have at this point from this. use what they're doing to develop the relationship and earn their trust and use the relationship to then convert them. 1957788;1580331695;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:47:43 mircea_popescu: obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things as a matter of necessity. 1957789;1580331739;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957245 - fo sho. after being blind myself for years, I think I'd quit computers in the imaginary hell in which the cli was taken away from me. 1957790;1580331739;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:49:03 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problems are that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously the afflicted are scarcely aware, but this doesn't mean they're not afflicted. 1957791;1580331752;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957248 - lol, I can see it. a father can in large part be replaced by other positive male role models. I don't reckon cli has a substitute. 1957792;1580331752;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-24 23:51:58 mircea_popescu: so you know, as far as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them. 1957793;1580332180;mircea_popescu;dorion nothing wrong with approaching individuals, on the contrary, prolly right thing. nothing wrong with having a clear center, concrete, highest advantage, etc. 1957794;1580332201;mircea_popescu;none of these are problems. 1957795;1580332676;dorion;mircea_popescu thanks. your comments have opened us up though and now I reckon we're more likely to establish the initial working relationship. 1957796;1580332718;*;dorion off for a while, meeting with broker dealer here soon, bbl. 1957797;1580332728;mircea_popescu;laters 1957798;1580333097;mircea_popescu;though honestly, i don't think there's any need (or for that matter any space) for "using the relationship" or anything like that. 1957799;1580333116;mircea_popescu;in the simplest of terms : whoever you might be meeting, either is doing something or isn't doing anything. if they're not doing anything you absolutely have no use for them, as the idiomatic expression -- there's no possible basis for any relationship, no cause to meet again, [http://trilema.com/2019/get-lost-dumbo/][get lost dumbo]. 1957800;1580333149;mircea_popescu;if they are doing something, they necessarily can benefit -- if they can't, you're doing things wrong, and are cordially invited to change how you do them. 1957801;1580333220;mircea_popescu;given that they can benefit, they might or might not feel inclined to talk. that's your job, reducing the latter to the former. in principle most everyone's willing to venture some small ante, see how it goes, and go from there ; corner cases aren't particularly interesting. 1957802;1580333295;mircea_popescu;from which point things flow naturally : either what they were doing was worth doing to begin with or not. helping them simply means they'll get to find out faster, nothing else. 1957803;1580333382;mircea_popescu;if it was worth doing all the better, you're helping someone do something that was worth doing, which helps everyone here [http://trilema.com/2017/romanzo-popolare/?b=few%20films&e=reshoot#select][in the most direct of ways]. 1957804;1580333410;mircea_popescu;if it wasn't really worth doing, it just seemed like it was at first -- all the better! now they know, and they can thereby move on to doing something actually worth doing. 1957805;1580333502;mircea_popescu;the great advantage of the totalitarian worldview is, after all, that it's a totalitarian worldview. 1957806;1580335337;BingoBoingo;!!key Ishack 1957807;1580335338;deedbot;http://wot.deedbot.org/39B11B18AD4225FB7A2752E7EDEE9D6EF157F8FB.asc 1957808;1580349051;feedbot;http://trilema.com/2020/intinarea/ << Trilema -- Intinarea 1957809;1580353317;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/german-reichbrew-sells/ << Qntra -- German Reichbrew Sells 1957810;1580406311;BingoBoingo;!!v 9D29BD6848C2C2D3CAC35D8377E89B5E14866E8B50901D9F79AFA3E319B33773 1957811;1580406311;deedbot;BingoBoingo rated Ishack 4 << BTC/fiat trades since arriving in Uruguay 1957812;1580407582;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/west-virgina-proposes-vexit-to-virginians-angry-over-rule-by-dc-commuters/ << Qntra -- West Virgina Proposes Vexit To Virginians Angry Over Rule By DC Commuters 1957813;1580408548;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/drama-laden-altcoin-forked-off-bitcoin-sees-hash-drop-leaving-long-wait-for-blocks/ << Qntra -- Drama Laden altcoin Forked Off Bitcoin Sees Hash Drop Leaving Long Wait For Blocks 1957814;1580429388;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/must-fix-problems-plaguing-f-35-moneypit-continues-to-be-blocking/ << Qntra -- "Must Fix" Problems Plaguing F-35 Moneypit Continues To Be Blocking 1957815;1580440384;dorion;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-29#1957729 - that's good catch, thanks for the correction and expanding on it. 1957816;1580440385;ossabot;Logged on 2020-01-29 17:38:25 mircea_popescu: though honestly, i don't think there's any need (or for that matter any space) for "using the relationship" or anything like that. 1957817;1580486294;feedbot;http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process << The Tar Pit -- A journey through the Gales installation process 1957818;1580486784;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/usg-lacking-options-puts-in-a-small-order-for-more-f-15-jets/ << Qntra -- USG, Lacking Options, Puts In A Small Order For More F-15 Jets 1957819;1580488636;mircea_popescu;spyked, thetarpit not having footnote tooltips kinda blows! 1957820;1580488649;feedbot;http://ossasepia.com/2020/01/31/euloras-default-island-sand-grass-rocks-and-nothing-else/ << Ossa Sepia -- Eulora's Default Island: Sand, Grass, Rocks and Nothing Else 1957821;1580490557;mircea_popescu;jfw, http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process#comment-238 << once spyked approves it there's a chunk in there for you. 1957822;1580491509;feedbot;http://qntra.net/2020/01/increasingly-chinese-berkeley-considering-appeasement-by-chiseling-donor-name-off-building/ << Qntra -- Increasingly Chinese Berkeley Considering Appeasement By Chiseling Donor Name Off Building 1957823;1580491646;mircea_popescu;alternatively, california could just secede, join china. 1957824;1580491660;mircea_popescu;since washington can no longer afford the expensive gold-digging coastal gf... 1957825;1580491663;mircea_popescu;beijing sure can. 1957826;1580491717;BingoBoingo;Well, China's know what to do with the pichis and rustics, whether they call themselves Tibetians or Wuighurs. 1957827;1580491827;BingoBoingo;Or Hong Kongs 1957828;1580491974;mircea_popescu;there's also that.