1312939;1446336017;mircea_popescu;i guess easier to count all insanity as third rather than actually increment the accumulator and handle overflows. 1312940;1446336225;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/you_are_the_98.html <<< best ever analysis of "ows" derpage. so good i don't even want to write one myself. 1312941;1446336227;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98% ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnMJ3X ) 1312942;1446336279;mircea_popescu;""Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and..." 1312943;1446336805;hanbot;https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/10/29/the-driest-place-on-earth-is-covered-in-pink-flowers-after-a-crazy-year-of-rain/ 1312944;1446336806;assbot;The ‘driest place on Earth’ is covered in pink flowers after a crazy year of rain - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnNJVG ) 1312945;1446336874;mircea_popescu;that's pretty cool 1312946;1446336917;hanbot;lotus harlots, perhaps 1312947;1446336954;jurov;asciilifeform: found your email after all. http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html 1312948;1446336955;assbot;[BTC-dev] MPI Genesis. (Possibly Off-Topic!) ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnNZnL ) 1312949;1446336978;jurov;gmail in its infinite wisdom decided to label README as application/octet-stream 1312950;1446337076;jurov;and thus mailman did not look for signatures there 1312951;1446337182;mircea_popescu;kludge upon kludge 1312952;1446337406;deedbot-;[Qntra] Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Report - http://qntra.net/2015/11/qntra-s-qntr-october-2015-report/ 1312953;1446337495;BingoBoingo;^ 1312954;1446337540;BingoBoingo;!up coinaday 1312955;1446337742;shinohai;mod6: V isn't finding my .wot directory in arm :/ 1312956;1446337820;shinohai;nm found where it barfed. 1312957;1446338090;mod6;it's all good now? 1312958;1446338126;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5284 @ 0.00055459 = 2.9305 BTC [-] 1312959;1446338202;shinohai;yeah building just as good, albeit slower being what it is. 1312960;1446338738;mod6;hmm ok. thanks for testing 1312961;1446338870;deedbot-;[Trilema] Why is it the end ? - http://trilema.com/2015/why-is-it-the-end/ 1312962;1446340568;jurov;http://electrek.co/2015/10/30/the-autopilot-is-learning-fast-model-s-owners-are-already-reporting-that-teslas-autopilot-is-self-improving/ 1312963;1446340570;assbot;The Autopilot is learning fast: Model S owners are already reporting that Tesla’s Autopilot is self-improving | Electrek ... ( http://bit.ly/1l15cT2 ) 1312964;1446340646;jurov;A Model S owner .... kept a count of how many times he had to “rescue” (meaning taking control after an alert) 1312965;1446340651;jurov;god save us 1312966;1446340708;*;mircea_popescu enjoys human drivers. 1312967;1446340996;jurov;i can imagine letting the car drive itself with the "rescues" can be exhilarating, but... brrrrr 1312968;1446341081;jurov;is any other heavy machinery driven that way? 1312969;1446341116;phf;asciilifeform: there's some leftover i18n in mpi http://paste.lisp.org/display/158047 1312970;1446341117;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1l15rh5 ) 1312971;1446341129;shinohai;There was that self-driving semi in cnn money a few minths ago 1312972;1446341142;shinohai;*months 1312973;1446341206;phf;and for the bored crowd in the audience, some code to add two bignums using ascii's mpi extraction, http://paste.lisp.org/display/158046 1312974;1446341206;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1l15vgS ) 1312975;1446341373;jurov;!s MMM 1312976;1446341374;assbot;214 results for 'MMM' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=MMM 1312977;1446341411;jurov;https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3qzz7t/the_same_day_mmm_global_ponzi_scheme_using/ 1312978;1446341413;assbot;The same day MMM (global ponzi scheme using bitcoin) announces it is pausing operations, the bitcoin price drops $20 in a minute. This is totally coincidental and the recent $100 spike was caused purely by fundamentals and adoption : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1l15ARA ) 1312979;1446341417;jurov;^ MMM going to china 1312980;1446341503;jurov;http://china-mmm.net/ 1312981;1446341563;jurov;if Party wont stop it early that would be gigaclusterfuck :) 1312982;1446342103;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1312983;1446342110;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 313.7, vol: 26698.93606532 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 304.975, vol: 8008.84387 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 317.16, vol: 40422.71983153 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 1.22457919 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 342.689423, vol: 55495.78770000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 315.1685, vol: 46.80657312 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 302.63741, vol: 119.31408839 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1312984;1446342335;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00055475 = 1.3591 BTC [+] 1312985;1446343189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00055871 = 9.7774 BTC [+] 1312986;1446344104;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15608 @ 0.00055871 = 8.7203 BTC [+] 1312987;1446345385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00055475 = 6.657 BTC [-] 1312988;1446346910;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00055751 = 2.3973 BTC [+] 1312989;1446347118;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1312990;1446347125;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 311.5, vol: 28404.29028917 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 304.85, vol: 7971.39491 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 316.07, vol: 41336.37433691 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 1.22457919 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 340.110716, vol: 55074.23610000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 315.1685, vol: 46.67222264 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 302.63741, vol: 119.31408839 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1312991;1446348984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28650 @ 0.00055399 = 15.8718 BTC [-] {3} 1312992;1446349190;BingoBoingo;;;more 1312993;1446349191;gribble;324.367351249 1312994;1446349350;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31452 @ 0.00055342 = 17.4062 BTC [-] {2} 1312995;1446349655;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108700 @ 0.0005497 = 59.7524 BTC [-] {2} 1312996;1446351485;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00054894 = 29.9721 BTC [-] {2} 1312997;1446352827;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53002 @ 0.00055449 = 29.3891 BTC [+] {3} 1312998;1446353167;mircea_popescu; is any other heavy machinery driven that way? <<< virtually all robots over 100kgf 1312999;1446353211;mircea_popescu;lmao r/buttcoin still chasing the "bitcoin is notrly valuable" dragon ? 1313000;1446353912;BingoBoingo;Oh yeah 1313001;1446353964;mircea_popescu;an' in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c746c244f58c38753102354b07488718/tumblr_n6lpxd5SZ91sx6oeso6_1280.jpg 1313002;1446353964;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/20jGL3u ) 1313003;1446356182;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5211 @ 0.00055486 = 2.8914 BTC [+] 1313004;1446358683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00055702 = 13.0621 BTC [+] 1313005;1446359110;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00055167 = 28.742 BTC [-] {4} 1313006;1446360147;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00055767 = 8.5324 BTC [+] {2} 1313007;1446360410;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/the_plan_will_always_fail_cata.html << must suck. 1313008;1446360411;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: The Plan Will Always Fail Catastrophically ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfFl4Y ) 1313009;1446360818;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00054972 = 7.7785 BTC [-] 1313010;1446363228;mircea_popescu;Diederik Stapel, noted Dutch psychologist, was recently outed for massive scientific fraud, i.e. he made up all his studies. "All of them?" Does it matter? 1313011;1446363228;mircea_popescu;The scientific community is aghast at the extent of his fraud-- fraud on "Astonishing Scale", writes Gretchen Vogel in the same issue of Science; and Bruce Alberts was so furious he wrote an "Editorial Expression Of Concern." Ooooooooohhh. People's Elbow. 1313012;1446363234;mircea_popescu;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/health/research/noted-dutch-psychologist-stapel-accused-of-research-fraud.html?_r=1 1313013;1446363237;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1l1k9o8 ) 1313014;1446363278;mircea_popescu;prior to that he was making up meaningless feel-good libertard studies about how littered train stations make ugly 6.0-6.5 dutch babes sit closer to black men. 1313015;1446363493;adlai;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1F0EVQ2.txt 1313016;1446363494;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1l1kpU9 ) 1313017;1446363494;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1313018;1446363803;adlai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311985 << thank you, that would be quite excellent 1313019;1446363803;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 15:57:35; mike_c: ;;later tell adlai yeah, I don't see why not. I'll take a look at posting it somewhere. 1313020;1446363929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00054894 = 5.9834 BTC [-] {3} 1313021;1446363985;adlai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1312022 << http://s.b-a.link/?q=query.bitcoin-assets.com 1313022;1446363985;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 16:20:30; assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:05:08; mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a 1313023;1446363986;assbot;4 results for 'query.bitcoin-assets.com' - #bitcoin-assets search 1313024;1446364073;mircea_popescu;oh oh the ticker thing. 1313025;1446364112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41450 @ 0.0005488 = 22.7478 BTC [-] {2} 1313026;1446364333;mircea_popescu;in other news, "Hmm, isn't it weird how just as soon as women entered the workforce it became completely impossible for a family to achieve the American dream without the woman in the workforce? Turns out that part of the drive to get women into the workforce was driven by... the workforce owners. Get it? Whenever you don't understand geopolitics just ask yourself where the lowest labor costs are, and wait for the 1313027;1446364333;mircea_popescu;headlines to read "human rights issues."" 1313028;1446364764;BingoBoingo;Thought of the night: Why hasn't big pharma marketed a product that tacks a long ester onto an opiod molecule to create depot product for treating cancer pain? 1313029;1446364869;BingoBoingo;Would frustrate the hell outta junkies too. Just leave ampules of the stuff around, because you can't just shoot oil into a vein. 1313030;1446364931;punkman;http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/AP-Hundreds-of-officers-lose-licenses-over-sex-6603433.php 1313031;1446364932;assbot;AP: Hundreds of officers lose licenses over sex misconduct - seattlepi.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hko6sA ) 1313032;1446365007;BingoBoingo;More lulz potential: Switching out the roids in the police station locker room with Depot Heroin. 1313033;1446365325;BingoBoingo;Shit could single handedly move the US healthcare system from triple to quadruple bankruptcy. Hospital beds occupied by junkies that OD'd shooting up Depot heroin into their glutes and need a narcan drip for a month and a half. 1313034;1446365360;BingoBoingo;Detox to piss clean begins to take the better part of a yer. 1313035;1446367199;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSrX8txW4AE7Uv5.jpg 1313036;1446367199;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2YlV9 ) 1313037;1446367389;trinque;for adlai's last deed, the transaction that made it into the blockchain is not the one for which I have the transaction ID 1313038;1446367403;trinque;this is strange, isn't it? 1313039;1446367503;trinque;adlai: can you think of a reason why I'd have a different transaction ID for your last deed? 1313040;1446367528;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27875 @ 0.00054974 = 15.324 BTC [+] {2} 1313041;1446367594;adlai;!s malleability 1313042;1446367595;assbot;66 results for 'malleability' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malleability 1313043;1446367639;adlai;0conf txids aren't actually a thing 1313044;1446367793;trinque;bother 1313045;1446367798;adlai;cf https://github.com/chris-belcher/joinmarket/blob/master/lib/blockchaininterface.py#L552 1313046;1446367799;assbot;joinmarket/blockchaininterface.py at master · chris-belcher/joinmarket · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqRrIP ) 1313047;1446367804;adlai;plenty of idiocy in joinmarket, but this is one thing it gets correct 1313048;1446368004;trinque;adlai: http://deedbot.org/bundle-381522.txt << ding 1313049;1446368005;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqRSmF ) 1313050;1446368341;adlai;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3K4BV71.txt << dong 1313051;1446368343;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2ZNGM ) 1313052;1446368343;deedbot-;Bad URL or network outage. 1313053;1446368346;adlai;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3K4BV71.txt 1313054;1446368347;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2ZNGM ) 1313055;1446368348;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1313056;1446368846;adlai;trinque: actually the more helpful line in the linked file is #L349, although the most correctest test would be sighash-aware 1313057;1446368903;deedbot-;[Qntra] Busybox Drops systemd Support - http://qntra.net/2015/11/busybox-drops-systemd-support/ 1313058;1446369583;deedbot-;[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Blinders. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/01/blinders/ 1313059;1446369724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18977 @ 0.00054976 = 10.4328 BTC [+] 1313060;1446370334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17443 @ 0.00054976 = 9.5895 BTC [+] 1313061;1446370944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17805 @ 0.00055486 = 9.8793 BTC [+] 1313062;1446372010;BingoBoingo;;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull? 1313063;1446372011;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313064;1446372835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0005587 = 2.9611 BTC [+] {2} 1313065;1446373750;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00055876 = 21.7358 BTC [+] {5} 1313066;1446374867;shinohai;;;later tell mod6 After 5 hours ... failed here: http://dpaste.com/29XT657 I think I wrote down somewhere how to fix it tho xD 1313067;1446374873;assbot;dpaste: 29XT657 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKseq5 ) 1313068;1446374873;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313069;1446375871;jurov;shinohai: there was likely some previous error compiling openssl 1313070;1446376184;shinohai;jurov: I found it, twas in the logs. Only happens on arm but twas easy fix. 1313071;1446376251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22450 @ 0.00055748 = 12.5154 BTC [-] {2} 1313072;1446378508;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00055527 = 9.5506 BTC [-] {3} 1313073;1446378861;fluffypony;https://benkurtovic.com/2014/06/01/obfuscating-hello-world.html 1313074;1446378862;assbot;Obfuscating "Hello world!" - Ben Kurtovic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mqe0rv ) 1313075;1446378935;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00055816 = 1.6466 BTC [+] {2} 1313076;1446379423;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54616 @ 0.00055229 = 30.1639 BTC [-] {3} 1313077;1446379667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6334 @ 0.00054982 = 3.4826 BTC [-] 1313078;1446379911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12416 @ 0.0005515 = 6.8474 BTC [+] 1313079;1446380643;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20209 @ 0.00054875 = 11.0897 BTC [-] {2} 1313080;1446381375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9891 @ 0.00054487 = 5.3893 BTC [-] 1313081;1446381985;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16775 @ 0.00055126 = 9.2474 BTC [+] {2} 1313082;1446382765;gabriel_laddel;;; later tell pete_dushenski regarding your most recent contravex photo - WOW - hot out of 10. 1313083;1446382765;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313084;1446382911;fluffypony;he looks like the Jew from Quantico 1313085;1446382970;fluffypony;http://cdn.sptdigital.com/sites/asia.axn/files/ct_character_f_primary_image/quantico_-_simon_asher_-_cast.jpg 1313086;1446382972;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PZ0imf ) 1313087;1446382972;fluffypony;that one 1313088;1446383632;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50250 @ 0.00055927 = 28.1033 BTC [+] {3} 1313089;1446384257;shinohai;fluffypony: This is who pete_dushenski really resembles in that photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/34797058@N04/3567834986 1313090;1446384259;assbot;The Hangover - Stu Price | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1RlMboM ) 1313091;1446384270;fluffypony;hah hah yes! 1313092;1446384284;shinohai;^^ 1313093;1446385157;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71478 @ 0.0005503 = 39.3343 BTC [-] {4} 1313094;1446386316;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9911 @ 0.00054665 = 5.4178 BTC [-] {2} 1313095;1446386377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79243 @ 0.00054442 = 43.1415 BTC [-] {3} 1313096;1446387597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00054258 = 8.8983 BTC [-] 1313097;1446390281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00054642 = 28.851 BTC [+] {2} 1313098;1446391623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52198 @ 0.00054231 = 28.3075 BTC [-] {3} 1313099;1446392995;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i don't think that is stable.\ 1313100;1446393023;mircea_popescu; this is strange, isn't it? << not at all. bitcoin still malleable. also, transaction ids ARE MEANINGLESS 1313101;1446393072;mircea_popescu;o check it out busybox did the right thing ? 1313102;1446393252;mircea_popescu;also, the field data suggests that contrary to everyone's worst nightmares, systemd will actually eventually fail, like the rest of similar attempts. 1313103;1446393414;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-10-2015#1312215 << in the short-term, b+p skool is more of a 'best practises' approach than a facility proper, but in the long-term, why not ? 1313104;1446393414;assbot;Logged on 31-10-2015 03:15:59; v_diddy: i don't think pete's actually interested in /building/ the skoolarium 1313105;1446393426;pete_dushenski;not like carnegie set out to make concert halls in nyc 1313106;1446393498;pete_dushenski;the prairie schools built around here a century ago are often left derelict for lack of funding. i could see revamping one. 1313107;1446393523;pete_dushenski;http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/pcimages/PC/013/web/PC013677.jpg << eg. 1313108;1446393527;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oh9WAB ) 1313109;1446393567;mircea_popescu;in similar school revamping news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/299d09b631bc4619abab2acb4ffd1fd1/tumblr_n9gns8eHWw1tf9irmo1_1280.jpg 1313110;1446393567;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oh9Zw9 ) 1313111;1446393623;pete_dushenski;http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/pcimages/PC/013/web/PC013548.jpg << actual photograph with boys wearing suits and caps, fillies in white skirts. and electricity poles ! 1313112;1446393645;pete_dushenski;or telephone... ? 1313113;1446393690;mircea_popescu;that's phone 1313114;1446393758;pete_dushenski;aha. i suppose the nodules/bulbs on the horizontals give it away 1313115;1446393776;*;pete_dushenski needs to read more about such advanced tech 1313116;1446393844;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1312049 << quick, translate that article before she steals your soul ! 1313117;1446393844;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 17:41:37; gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310924 << i definitely have. sadly, i showed it to some chick some time ago. now she's telling me she's pregnant :( 1313118;1446393888;mircea_popescu;in more science news, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/28/pumpkins-cause-climate-change-energy-department/ 1313119;1446393889;assbot;Pumpkins cause climate change, Energy Department says - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1OhaC98 ) 1313120;1446393891;pete_dushenski;;;later tell ben_vulpes felicitations fellow papa ! 1313121;1446393892;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313122;1446393959;pete_dushenski;saw the best carved pumpkin this year : little pumpkin head wedged into a larger smashed out pumpkin head. sort of an 'alien' thing. very wd. 1313123;1446394002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44136 @ 0.00054951 = 24.2532 BTC [+] {2} 1313124;1446394019;pete_dushenski;http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crazywebsite.com%2FPg-Alien-Visitors-UFOs-Alien-Abductions%2FExtraterrestrials_Picture_Gallery%2FPhotographs_Real_Alien_Pumpkins_Carved%2FReal_Alien_Pumpkin_Carving_Pattern_Ideas_Baby_Alien_GPHCC-1_JPG.jpg << not quite as detailed as this, however. 1313125;1446394019;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrAA8W ) 1313126;1446394040;pete_dushenski;goddam link thieves. 1313127;1446394084;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-10-2015#1312211 << all entrepreneurs with net worth >$10 mn are viable candidates 1313128;1446394084;assbot;Logged on 31-10-2015 03:14:57; BingoBoingo: v_diddy: Mr. Combs is not a candidate really to lecture at Ben & Pete's Skoolarium 1313129;1446394119;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-11-2015#1313062 <--> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-10-2015#1311660 1313130;1446394119;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 10:00:10; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull? 1313131;1446394119;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 00:01:12; pete_dushenski: speaking of costumes, i've pulled off the most magical trio for the family for this halloween : papa is the beplaided farmer, mama the milky moo-cow, baby the curious calf ! 1313132;1446394169;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-10-2015#1311665 << the joke's really the milk. 1313133;1446394169;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 00:02:01; vulpes_a_hopital: pete_dushenski is the joke there that the girl's the one working? 1313134;1446394203;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-10-2015#1311666 << for halloween. 1313135;1446394203;assbot;Logged on 30-10-2015 00:02:08; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you took your wife out on the town dressed as a cow ? 1313136;1446394507;pete_dushenski;http://www.kentucky.com/2015/10/29/4112292/university-president-posed-for.html << fuck the bitchy little students, fuck their apologist profs, and fuck the lot of them. it's motherfucking halloween. 1313137;1446394509;assbot;Lexington, KY local and state news by the Lexington Herald-Leader | Kentucky.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrBkux ) 1313138;1446394569;pete_dushenski;if you've lost your sense of humour and can't stop being a victim whore FOR ONE DAY A YEAR then you deserve to rot in a very fiery and exquisitely painful circle of hell. 1313139;1446394618;fluffypony;OMG A SOMBRERO 1313140;1446394623;*;fluffypony is immediately offended 1313141;1446394624;pete_dushenski;i know this is just supposed to be 'normal soviet retardation' but holy jeez does this get my goat 1313142;1446394679;pete_dushenski;fluffypony: let's start a petition to ban the sale of all hats. baseball hats are racist too y'know. especially the flat-brimmed ones. 1313143;1446394713;pete_dushenski;because only rappers and pro athletes (read: blacks) wear them. 1313144;1446394853;mircea_popescu;so what, they're gonna be issued through the first apostolical church instead of amazon now ? 1313145;1446395000;pete_dushenski;sort of the same thing 1313146;1446395023;pete_dushenski;;;later tell adlai http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/28/how-to-tell-if-youre-middle-class/#comment-34252 1313147;1446395026;assbot;How to tell if you’re middle class. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrC1Em ) 1313148;1446395026;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313149;1446396198;fluffypony;https://news.vice.com/article/the-uns-weirdest-crimes-380-pounds-of-weed-child-porn-and-a-chainsaw-on-a-plane 1313150;1446396199;assbot;The UN’s Weirdest Crimes: 380 Pounds of Weed, Child Porn, and a Chainsaw on a Plane | VICE News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrDSJc ) 1313151;1446396285;shinohai;Aside from the CP he coulda been a great guy 1313152;1446396312;pete_dushenski;in other airplane crime news, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/bombardier-restructuring-cost-cutting-1.3298950 1313153;1446396314;assbot;Bombardier reportedly looking for federal help after Quebec's $1B bailout - Montreal - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrE9fc ) 1313154;1446396474;*;shinohai decides to rent the 1980 classic Airplane! so as to no longer think of bad things on aeroplanes this weekend. 1313155;1446396566;pete_dushenski;shinohai: i tried watching airplane (1980) recently, maybe a month or two ago, but i had to turn it off after about 20 minutes, so unbearable was the lethargic pace and hollow 'humour' 1313156;1446396625;pete_dushenski;i wanted to like it because 'movie from when u.s. still had proper enemies' but it was waaay too painful 1313157;1446396657;pete_dushenski;it made me hesitant to re-watch naked gun, which i adored as a kid. 1313158;1446396660;shinohai;For some reason I am a huge fan of Leslie Nielson 1313159;1446396680;shinohai;And of corny humor in general. 1313160;1446396691;pete_dushenski;factoid o 1313161;1446396712;pete_dushenski;factoid o' the day : leslie nielson and i went to the same high school 1313162;1446396747;pete_dushenski;i learned this after watching all his movies as a kid, and laughing my innocent little head off, i'm sure 1313163;1446396829;pete_dushenski;huh nielson died in 2010... 1313164;1446396909;pete_dushenski;shinohai: pauly shore fan as well ? 1313165;1446396977;shinohai;Sho 'nuff 1313166;1446397052;shinohai;Sadly there are very few entertainers of note any more in American cinema. 1313167;1446397235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00055636 = 20.3628 BTC [+] 1313168;1446397418;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00054555 = 24.277 BTC [-] {4} 1313169;1446399553;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17048 @ 0.00054196 = 9.2393 BTC [-] {3} 1313170;1446399654;mod6;<+shinohai> jurov: I found it, twas in the logs. Only happens on arm but twas easy fix << were you able to get openssl/boost/bdb built statically then for ARM 32bit? 1313171;1446399678;mod6;(iirc it was a 32bit ARM right?) 1313172;1446400220;shinohai;mod6: yeah 32-bit but still havin static issues, it isn't compiling against ourlibs 1313173;1446400277;shinohai;I had a doctored makefile on my old lappy, forgot to make a copy xD 1313174;1446400834;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00054549 = 9.9825 BTC [+] {2} 1313175;1446400897;shinohai;Maybe open ssl borked on me 1313176;1446401322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126335 @ 0.00054084 = 68.327 BTC [-] {7} 1313177;1446401801;mod6;hmm. so yeah, the key will be to get these deps compiled statically. i might be wrong, but alf's pogo related things might have some sample configurations for getting these statically built on ARM. 1313178;1446402237;mod6;i do have a method (basically all automated) for one to build a static bitcoind via V inside of rotor for a x86 i386/i686 env, but not for ARM :/ 1313179;1446402389;shinohai;mod6: nw part of the journey ... but dammit imma figure this out if it kills me. 1313180;1446402429;mod6;:] thanks for your efforts shinohai 1313181;1446402555;shinohai;btw it compiled on that old Ubuntu server I always test on too ... same as deb smooth as butter 1313182;1446402577;mod6;oh the rotor+V script for x86_64? 1313183;1446402587;shinohai;yeah 1313184;1446402600;mod6;excellent! 1313185;1446402619;shinohai;So hanbot should be able to push a button 1313186;1446402629;mod6;it needs a bit more clean up over the next week or so, then will have something a bit more finalized. glad that the mechinisms worked though. 1313187;1446402671;shinohai;yeah on x86_64 no complaints outside of the keyserver hiccups 1313188;1446402694;mod6;werd. 1313189;1446402705;mod6;thanks again for your help. 1313190;1446402739;shinohai;No problem, sitting on my ass doing nothing gets me no closer to having tiny bitcoind 1313191;1446403579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00054009 = 10.8558 BTC [-] {3} 1313192;1446403619;mod6;lot of stuff to do here in November, should be exciting. 1313193;1446403675;shinohai;I swear my New Year's resolution is to move further away from the Debian crutch. 1313194;1446404372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00054621 = 7.565 BTC [+] {2} 1313195;1446406019;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49127 @ 0.0005396 = 26.5089 BTC [-] {4} 1313196;1446406141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00053944 = 8.5501 BTC [-] {2} 1313197;1446408215;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113950 @ 0.00053882 = 61.3985 BTC [-] {5} 1313198;1446408291;mircea_popescu;and in mechanotopia news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/806d77ef70b55865908eb52a90d96653/tumblr_mo8gl1R4Dr1s4dm6ao1_400.gif 1313199;1446408291;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PZY6uR ) 1313200;1446408701;shinohai;The amount of sexual engineering that went into that gif boggles the mind mircea_popescu 1313201;1446408703;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139541 @ 0.00053744 = 74.9949 BTC [-] {5} 1313202;1446408715;mircea_popescu;doesn't it. 1313203;1446408985;v_diddy;BingoBoingo: what, not even a hat tip for the link? 1313204;1446408995;v_diddy;i got a good chuckle out of it anyways. 1313205;1446409033;v_diddy;i nominate punkman's arsetechnica link for qntra treatment as well 1313206;1446409069;pete_dushenski;o.O ben you're permanently v_diddy now ? 1313207;1446409108;pete_dushenski;http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1510.3/02866.html << linus blowing off steam 1313208;1446409109;assbot;Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT] Networking ... ( http://bit.ly/1XIJMIy ) 1313209;1446409143;pete_dushenski;"Christ people. This is just sh*t. The conflict I get is due to stupid new gcc header file crap. But what makes me upset is that the crap is for completely bogus reasons." 1313210;1446409173;deedbot-;[Trilema] BitBet (S.BBET) October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-october-2015-statement/ 1313211;1446409174;pete_dushenski;"The code seems *designed* to use that new "overflow_usub()" code. It seems to be an excuse to use that function. And it's a f*cking bad excuse for that braindamage." 1313212;1446409271;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: what, not even a hat tip for the link? << ty, just ack in the article is extra words, dilutional 1313213;1446409513;pete_dushenski;http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a17991/voyager-1-voyager-2-retiring-engineer/ << job opening for interested fortraners 1313214;1446409514;assbot;Why NASA Needs a Programmer Fluent In 60-Year-Old Languages ... ( http://bit.ly/1XIKh5q ) 1313215;1446409557;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28125 @ 0.00053973 = 15.1799 BTC [+] {2} 1313216;1446409740;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00054662 = 3.4437 BTC [+] {3} 1313217;1446409849;shinohai;@ pete_dushenski do you celebrate Festivus ? 1313218;1446409885;pete_dushenski;more of a chrismukkah kind of guy 1313219;1446409899;shinohai;:D 1313220;1446409921;pete_dushenski;and you ? 1313221;1446409984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00054367 = 21.8555 BTC [-] {3} 1313222;1446410029;shinohai;Festivus is every year for me, so I can celebrate a holiday and not be called a scrooge. 1313223;1446410051;shinohai;Plus the airing of grievances is one of the best parts. 1313224;1446410146;pete_dushenski;aha 1313225;1446410162;pete_dushenski;a day in the life of a jewish mother 1313226;1446410178;pete_dushenski;of teh stereotypical sort 1313227;1446410179;shinohai;Selah. 1313228;1446410289;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054663 = 4.5917 BTC [+] {2} 1313229;1446410662;shinohai;;;ticker 1313230;1446410663;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 323.21, Best ask: 323.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 323.63, 24 hour volume: 23822.4533847, 24 hour low: 309.43, 24 hour high: 326.5, 24 hour vwap: None 1313231;1446410716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00054664 = 12.846 BTC [+] 1313232;1446410909;pete_dushenski;ciao! 1313233;1446410942;punkman;"two new research papers found that the virus can live in a male survivor's semen for up to nine months, and that one man passed it to his sexual partner months after he was released from the Ebola ward." 1313234;1446411162;jurov;!t m f.mpif 1313235;1446411162;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00021379 / 0.00021379 / 0.00021379 (250 shares, 0.05 BTC) 1313236;1446411178;v_diddy;;;later tell pete_dusschenski eh, not likely 1313237;1446411179;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313238;1446412022;shinohai;!s /rotor/TEST2/ourlibs/lib/libboost_system.a: error adding symbols: File format not recognized 1313239;1446412023;assbot;0 results for '/rotor/TEST2/ourlibs/lib/libboost_system.a: error adding symbols: File format not recognized' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%2Frotor%2FTEST2%2Fourlibs%2Flib%2Flibboost_system.a%3A+error+adding+symbols%3A+File+format+not+recognized 1313240;1446412030;shinohai;>.> 1313241;1446412166;oglafbot;http://oglaf.com/lapidary/ 1313242;1446412167;assbot;lapidary ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLoMA ) 1313243;1446412946;v_diddy;http://oglaf.com/hotbroiler/ 1313244;1446412947;assbot;Hot Broiler ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qjo5ud ) 1313245;1446413134;jurov;^"lapidary" made me curious if mircea_popescu does pity sex, too :D 1313246;1446413202;mircea_popescu;i dun think anybody does pity sex outside of livresque context. 1313247;1446413218;mircea_popescu;outside of the perceived need of an author to make characters fuck that wouldn't, there's no reason for it. 1313248;1446413246;mircea_popescu;"Really. Give me *one* reason why it was written in that idiotic way 1313249;1446413246;mircea_popescu;with two different conditionals, and a shiny new nonstandard function 1313250;1446413246;mircea_popescu;that wants particular compiler support to generate even half-way sane 1313251;1446413246;mircea_popescu;code, and even then generates worse code? A shiny function that we 1313252;1446413247;mircea_popescu;have never ever needed anywhere else, and that is just 1313253;1446413249;mircea_popescu;compiler-masturbation." 1313254;1446413340;mircea_popescu;i find it impossible not to love linus at first sight. 1313255;1446413441;mircea_popescu;in vaguely related news, 1313256;1446413442;mircea_popescu;"Wolf Dad" wrote a book called Beat Them Into Peking University. 1313257;1446413442;mircea_popescu;Xiao, 47, describes himself as the emperor of his family. As such, he's laid down an extraordinary system of rules for his children. 1313258;1446413442;mircea_popescu;"I have more than a thousand rules: specific detailed rules about how to hold your chopsticks and your bowl, how to pick up food, how to hold a cup, how to sleep, how to cover yourself with a quilt," Xiao says. "If you don't follow the rules, then I must beat you." 1313259;1446413773;jurov;deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt 1313260;1446413773;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLLqj ) 1313261;1446413775;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1313262;1446413783;v_diddy;jurov: ty! 1313263;1446413785;jurov;deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201510.txt.asc 1313264;1446413786;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLLGV ) 1313265;1446413787;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1313266;1446413795;v_diddy;and do forgive my letting you dangle on the pop culture references :P 1313267;1446413825;jurov;hah hah 1313268;1446413897;mod6;yeah, thanks jurov 1313269;1446413983;jurov;but would be cool if puff diddy came here :D 1313270;1446414193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00053724 = 18.2662 BTC [-] {4} 1313271;1446414253;v_diddy;we're still waiting for the entertainment industry liason i think 1313272;1446414255;v_diddy;;;seen pgp 1313273;1446414255;gribble;pgp was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: wrong chan 1313274;1446414257;punkman;til https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunnilingus_tongue 1313275;1446414258;assbot;Cunnilingus tongue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLZha ) 1313276;1446414559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10106 @ 0.0005369 = 5.4259 BTC [-] {2} 1313277;1446415028;v_diddy;!up Cristina 1313278;1446415054;v_diddy;hullo, mrs kirchner 1313279;1446415069;mircea_popescu;lol 1313280;1446415085;mircea_popescu;i thought that's CFdK 1313281;1446415115;shinohai;I present ... a real live human female. Cristina 1313282;1446415138;Cristina;hi all 1313283;1446415142;Cristina;hola hola a todos ? 1313284;1446415144;Cristina;hola hola a todos 1313285;1446415148;mircea_popescu;here for the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ or just in general ? 1313286;1446415149;assbot;I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w ) 1313287;1446415224;shinohai;I'm working up to that lol 1313288;1446415253;mircea_popescu;well so what do you do Cristina ? 1313289;1446415349;Cristina;I have been invited another user, someone trying to learn more things 1313290;1446415371;shinohai;Cristina el te esta preguntando de que dedicas? 1313291;1446415406;Cristina;I am a student of veterinary medicine, 1313292;1446415489;mircea_popescu;o hey. 1313293;1446415504;mircea_popescu;hablas espanol en preferencia de ingles ? 1313294;1446415608;Cristina;yo hablo español 1313295;1446415624;mircea_popescu;dale :) 1313296;1446415651;Cristina;lo entiendes tambien?? 1313297;1446415719;mircea_popescu;si. 1313298;1446415723;v_diddy;un poco 1313299;1446415747;Cristina;mas me gusta el español jeje 1313300;1446415778;mircea_popescu;y de donde eres ? 1313301;1446415797;Cristina;españa madrid 1313302;1446415805;mircea_popescu;a cool. 1313303;1446415829;mircea_popescu;shinohai i thought you were in the states, what is this, ltr ? 1313304;1446415861;shinohai;Nah mircea_popescu I thought I'd go over to cryptopia and see if I could talk sense to the Spanish-speakers there. 1313305;1446416009;v_diddy;bien hecho, shinohai 1313306;1446416068;punkman;shinohai: what's a cryptopia? 1313307;1446416084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25897 @ 0.00053979 = 13.9789 BTC [+] {2} 1313308;1446416116;shinohai;punkman: some new turdcoin exchange. I just heard there were some Spanish-speakers there, so I needed the practice. 1313309;1446416158;v_diddy;Cristina: puedes usar GPG? 1313310;1446416196;Cristina;eso que es? 1313311;1446416203;v_diddy;my spanish has rotted on the vine :( 1313312;1446416215;v_diddy;como se dice "software" en espanol 1313313;1446416226;v_diddy;"software" de crypto personal 1313314;1446416255;Cristina;no uso ninguno... 1313315;1446416280;v_diddy;privado mensaje, identificacion personal... 1313316;1446416305;v_diddy;util mejor aqui 1313317;1446416335;v_diddy;necessitas para "voce" aqui 1313318;1446416335;Cristina;y que software es? donde lo consigo 1313319;1446416355;v_diddy;windows? macintosh? linux? 1313320;1446416367;Cristina;windows 8.1 1313321;1446416378;v_diddy;ai pobre 1313322;1446416418;v_diddy;http://gpg4win.org/download.html 1313323;1446416418;assbot;Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKOjEN ) 1313324;1446416467;Cristina;descargando 1313325;1446416467;v_diddy;quieres uno llave privado y llave publico 1313326;1446416483;*;v_diddy hopes he's making sense 1313327;1446416550;shinohai;One day I'm gonna ask hanbot for permission to translate https://bitcointa.lk/threads/so-you-think-youre-going-to-start-a-bitcoin-business-right.73270/ 1313328;1446416552;assbot;So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKOvE2 ) 1313329;1446416562;Cristina;instalando... 1313330;1446416572;v_diddy;!up ascii_field 1313331;1446416574;v_diddy;poor man 1313332;1446416586;v_diddy;¿trabajes hoy, ascii_field? 1313333;1446416616;ascii_field;si 1313334;1446416659;v_diddy;pobre 1313335;1446416705;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313254 << eh, he's the original 'apolitical' jwz 1313336;1446416705;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 21:29:00; mircea_popescu: i find it impossible not to love linus at first sight. 1313337;1446416763;Cristina;ya lo he instalado, y he creado una privi key 1313338;1446416769;v_diddy;Cristina: 4096-bit llave largo, y caducidad nunca 1313339;1446416794;v_diddy;privi key lol gracias 1313340;1446416809;Cristina;ya esta creada... ahora que tengo que hacer? 1313341;1446416818;v_diddy;!s first steps 1313342;1446416819;assbot;146 results for 'first steps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=first+steps 1313343;1446416834;mircea_popescu;ascii_field how you mean ? 1313344;1446416840;shinohai;Cristina: eso es lo que reviso tomas: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/es/manual.html 1313345;1446416841;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MATKKd ) 1313346;1446416849;v_diddy;Cristina: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 1313347;1446416850;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o ) 1313348;1446416851;mircea_popescu;also for the people interested in economics : i'm tinkering out the s.mg report, should be interesting. 1313349;1446416856;shinohai;Para explicar bien bien 1313350;1446416870;Cristina;ya tengo la clave.. creada 1313351;1446416900;shinohai;!up Cristina 1313352;1446416927;v_diddy;shinohai: consider translating the first steps wiki article? 1313353;1446416938;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313213 << lulzy, i'd easily handle this but nobody asked me 1313354;1446416938;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 20:25:13; pete_dushenski: http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a17991/voyager-1-voyager-2-retiring-engineer/ << job opening for interested fortraners 1313355;1446416952;ascii_field;(not in that wot) 1313356;1446416953;shinohai;v_diddy might be a good idea, thanx 1313357;1446416989;ascii_field;64k is a fuckton of space, too 1313358;1446417006;ascii_field;esp for the period 1313359;1446417037;ascii_field;brb 1313360;1446417250;v_diddy;ascii_field: your IP is leaking. 1313361;1446417275;v_diddy;!up ascii_field 1313362;1446417328;ascii_field;v_diddy: unsurprising 1313363;1446417331;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313343 << on many occasions he said, in effect, 'fuck politics i just want things to work' 1313364;1446417331;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 22:27:14; mircea_popescu: ascii_field how you mean ? 1313365;1446417360;mircea_popescu;so what if he said. 1313366;1446417386;mircea_popescu;also, shoot 'em an email, what's it cost. 1313367;1446417488;ascii_field;aha who doesn't love job postings with 100 million and one fishwrap-derps bloating the mailbox 1313368;1446417591;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313177 << i did it ALL already !! does nobody read the logz?? 1313369;1446417591;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 18:16:41; mod6: hmm. so yeah, the key will be to get these deps compiled statically. i might be wrong, but alf's pogo related things might have some sample configurations for getting these statically built on ARM. 1313370;1446417609;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72397 @ 0.00053978 = 39.0785 BTC [-] {3} 1313371;1446417614;ascii_field;got a generic write-in-your-cpu-arch builder thing 1313372;1446417619;ascii_field;if anyone needs this. 1313373;1446417643;shinohai;mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ is a maybe. 1313374;1446417644;assbot;I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w ) 1313375;1446417670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3203 @ 0.0005369 = 1.7197 BTC [-] 1313376;1446417708;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313057 << afaik it never worked to begin with (not even in the miserable sense that systemd 'worked' elsewhere) 1313377;1446417708;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 09:08:23; deedbot-: [Qntra] Busybox Drops systemd Support - http://qntra.net/2015/11/busybox-drops-systemd-support/ 1313378;1446417713;mircea_popescu;ascii_field you forget who these readers are. 1313379;1446417725;ascii_field;busybox is typically used in small machines, e.g., routers, our 'pogo', etc. 1313380;1446417725;mircea_popescu;they're too shy to say hi whiole the chick's there at the bar slipping herself roofies. 1313381;1446417821;*;ascii_field seriously considers this, as he may soon be out of work. 1313382;1446417872;*;shinohai steals ascii_field 's build notes for pogo... 1313383;1446417877;*;ascii_field would like to try to avoid straight usg gigs, however, from past experience 1313384;1446417935;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313190 << it is 'tiny' only in the disk footprint. leaks like a sieve (see a year's worth of log...) 1313385;1446417935;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 18:32:19; shinohai: No problem, sitting on my ass doing nothing gets me no closer to having tiny bitcoind 1313386;1446418004;shinohai;I saw that part about the memory issues, was hoping I might stumble on solutions. 1313387;1446418015;Cristina;mircea_popescu sigue la oferta de las fotos de los pechos? 1313388;1446418016;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313258 << confucius lives! 1313389;1446418016;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 21:30:42; mircea_popescu: "I have more than a thousand rules: specific detailed rules about how to hold your chopsticks and your bowl, how to pick up food, how to hold a cup, how to sleep, how to cover yourself with a quilt," Xiao says. "If you don't follow the rules, then I must beat you." 1313390;1446418044;ascii_field;shinohai: before you can even begin to think about this, must read the pertinent logz 1313391;1446418113;mircea_popescu;Cristina a, si. 1313392;1446418125;Cristina;mircea_popescu acepto la oferta en el articulo... 1313393;1446418127;*;shinohai pops popcorn. 1313394;1446418153;mircea_popescu;escribi 533ae6 1313395;1446418154;ascii_field;shinohai: my most recent find is that tx does not appear to ever get freed. nor can it, because it appears in multiple data structures, some of which are never cleaned up. 1313396;1446418164;ascii_field;interdependent pile of steaming shit. 1313397;1446418184;Cristina;+mircea_popescu lo que NO eseño es la cara 1313398;1446418195;mircea_popescu;mm 1313399;1446418206;ascii_field;por que no la cara ? 1313400;1446418233;mircea_popescu;Cristina sabes que "Has previously posted nudie selfshots on the web. You will be required to prove this by supplying a link." va decir ? 1313401;1446418256;shinohai;Oh she's got pics ... 1313402;1446418258;Cristina;<+ascii_field> por que guardo un poco mi identidad 1313403;1446418284;ascii_field;mm 1313404;1446418296;shinohai;Asi es el punto de #bitcoin-assets Cristina, aprender guardar tu identidad! 1313405;1446418302;mircea_popescu;lmao. 1313406;1446418319;mircea_popescu;pechos sin caras no valen nada, Cristina 1313407;1446418358;Cristina;<+mircea_popescu> entonces no lo acepto :P 1313408;1446418363;mircea_popescu;kk 1313409;1446418430;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313062 << waitasec he actually named the boy this ? 1313410;1446418430;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 10:00:10; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull? 1313411;1446418463;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313073 << snore, what, rest of the world didn't go to school and never heard of church numerals..? 1313412;1446418463;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 11:54:21; fluffypony: https://benkurtovic.com/2014/06/01/obfuscating-hello-world.html 1313413;1446418479;fluffypony;lol 1313414;1446418862;mircea_popescu;!rate Cristina 1 por la seguridad de identidad! 1313415;1446418862;assbot;Cristina is not registered in WoT. 1313416;1446418867;mircea_popescu;oh ? 1313417;1446419005;shinohai;trying to explain the necessary steps. I have no clue what to tell a Windows user! 1313418;1446419053;mircea_popescu;since she got her key anyway, doesn't matter so much, just have it reg'd with assbot 1313419;1446419134;mircea_popescu;!up Cristina 1313420;1446419443;Cristina;!register A2E1 0795 8CF9 F320 EFB0 5297 F597 2074 BD8D 68DF 1313421;1446419443;assbot;That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. 1313422;1446419484;mircea_popescu;no spaces 1313423;1446419489;punkman;in other news http://i.imgur.com/YFMaJKN.jpg 1313424;1446419490;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1k2UGuv ) 1313425;1446419504;Cristina;!register A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF 1313426;1446419504;assbot;Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF. This may take a few moments. 1313427;1446419504;assbot;No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu. 1313428;1446419528;mircea_popescu;lol seems about right 1313429;1446419590;shinohai;Cristina: seguro que lo mandaste al servidor? 1313430;1446419699;Cristina; <+shinohai> me dice que esta correcto enviado 1313431;1446419734;shinohai;Dejame ver, peor el servidor esta lento? 1313432;1446419798;mircea_popescu;prolly best give it half an hour. 1313433;1446419866;shinohai;entonces escuchaste Cristina ahora a fumar la buena 1313434;1446419886;shinohai;y en medio hora regrescamos 1313435;1446419892;Cristina;ok 1313436;1446420006;deedbot-;[Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-october-2015-statement/ 1313437;1446420544;punkman;http://41.media.tumblr.com/50ebefcb572305337dc2b08488856119/tumblr_nmlxa9uXcg1rtv99ko1_1280.png 1313438;1446420544;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1k2X44l ) 1313439;1446420646;mircea_popescu;o yeah 1313440;1446420652;shinohai;>.> 1313441;1446420653;mircea_popescu;bandanna too clean error. 1313442;1446420658;Cristina;!register A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF 1313443;1446420659;assbot;Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF. This may take a few moments. 1313444;1446420659;assbot;Key BD8D68DF / "Cristina " successfully imported. 1313445;1446420659;assbot;Registration successful. 1313446;1446420667;shinohai;\o/ 1313447;1446420674;Cristina;ya me he registrado... todo bien? 1313448;1446420681;shinohai;si pues 1313449;1446420688;Cristina;estoy dentro? 1313450;1446420691;mircea_popescu;!rate Cristina 1 por la seguridad de identidad! 1313451;1446420691;assbot;Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/a41e9d86653f1a83 1313452;1446420699;shinohai;Ahora si estas dentro 1313453;1446420705;mircea_popescu;ahahaha "estas adentro ?" "si" "ahhh!" 1313454;1446420720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054479 = 10.2421 BTC [+] {2} 1313455;1446420730;Cristina;para registrar mi nick a qui que tengo que hacer? 1313456;1446420738;mircea_popescu;!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.Cristina.1:23f49ced16613be321cf98dc6007532ec5f0e92c58ef46a99f281db468af67c1 1313457;1446420738;assbot;Successfully added a rating of 1 for Cristina with note: por la seguridad de identidad! 1313458;1446421147;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10252 @ 0.0005369 = 5.5043 BTC [-] 1313459;1446422428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00054489 = 12.0966 BTC [+] {2} 1313460;1446422699;shinohai;!up Cristina 1313461;1446422707;shinohai;forgot 2 rate 1313462;1446422729;shinohai;!rate Cristina 1 Una joya entre los idiotas 1313463;1446422729;assbot;Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/875068be73f4e7b5 1313464;1446422798;Cristina;!rate jejej no es para tanto 1313465;1446422798;assbot;jejej is not registered in WoT. 1313466;1446422820;shinohai;!v assbot:shinohai.rate.Cristina.1:7fc9c515d2a6fc58ff6c97e8f357f8e0a78afa74008e0f7aae2cfd49ce2b1087 1313467;1446422820;assbot;Successfully added a rating of 1 for Cristina with note: Una joya entre los idiotas 1313468;1446422844;Cristina;que estan haciendo?? 1313469;1446422866;shinohai;Aqui tomando copas 1313470;1446423034;Cristina;y las normas de chat... hay algunas puedo decir de todo? 1313471;1446423041;Cristina;enviar enlaces.. con ref?? 1313472;1446423103;*;Cristina slaps shinohai around a bit with a large fishbot 1313473;1446423246;mircea_popescu;Cristina http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ 1313474;1446423247;assbot;#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1k32ZX6 ) 1313475;1446423249;shinohai;hey had to restart lappy, don't b troutin me 1313476;1446423395;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/5670e7ec00898d000603cb611e793804/tumblr_n6vsh8qYCL1r2weuio2_1280.jpg 1313477;1446423397;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1k33jFb ) 1313478;1446423442;shinohai;I can get behind that, since I struck out on #b-a entertainment tonight. 1313479;1446423540;Cristina;que tema tenemos hoy por a qui?? algo para que aprenda 1313480;1446423631;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news : http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2011/12/28/the-psychology-of-quitting/ << penelope trunk thinks she might be dying from a nut sized buise on her hip. 1313481;1446423632;assbot;The psychology of quitting | Penelope Trunk Careers ... ( http://bit.ly/1k33Mrc ) 1313482;1446423648;mircea_popescu;Cristina lee lols logs tambien. 1313483;1446423652;mircea_popescu;lols logs jhaha 1313484;1446423663;Cristina;donde los leo? 1313485;1446423701;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com 1313486;1446423702;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1k33Uab ) 1313487;1446423758;Cristina;ok le echare un vistazo 1313488;1446423883;shinohai;MAs que un vistazo Cristina, leer los logs es requerido. 1313489;1446423988;Cristina;<+shinohai> ya mañana que es algo tarde... a parte que estaba en ello 1313490;1446424054;shinohai;Claro que no de una vez pues 1313491;1446424989;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 1313492;1446424990;assbot;Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnqSD7 ) 1313493;1446425211;punkman;ha, vex had this in the logs 1313494;1446426605;mircea_popescu;and speaking of schools and a rounded education and whatnot, http://36.media.tumblr.com/13b21671b6fc1b1c5175ae7901f762d0/tumblr_n8nfeyBIIJ1slq74qo1_1280.jpg 1313495;1446426607;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RntNMe ) 1313496;1446426639;mircea_popescu;"ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs. 1313497;1446426640;mircea_popescu;The National Confederation of Disabled People called the action "incomprehensible," and said pedophiles are now awarded a higher government disability pay than some people who have received organ transplants." 1313498;1446426679;mircea_popescu;well... it's either a disability or it isn't. what, you hate the lame and worship the deaf so you put people without legs in prison and give tax money to the deaf ? pick a stand lol. 1313499;1446429016;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0005369 = 5.8522 BTC [-] {2} 1313500;1446429203;phf;huh, libgpg-error and gpgme come with common lisp bindings (and only cl) in the standard distribution.. 1313501;1446431031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00054489 = 1.226 BTC [+] {2} 1313502;1446432127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16227 @ 0.00054263 = 8.8053 BTC [-] {2} 1313503;1446433745;BingoBoingo;ty pete_dushenski 1313504;1446433821;deedbot-;[Qntra] 000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised - http://qntra.net/2015/11/000webhost-penetrated-13-million-plaintext-passwords-compromised/ 1313505;1446433836;mircea_popescu;reading http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/what_would_you_do_if_your_fian_1.html i realise nothing in the past decade makes me as happy as biel's fizzling. 1313506;1446433837;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: What Would You Do If Your Fiance Gave You a Ring That Wasn't Good Enough? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NjKtoD ) 1313507;1446433838;v_diddy;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313353 << take things, do not wait for them to be given. 1313508;1446433838;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 22:28:58; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313213 << lulzy, i'd easily handle this but nobody asked me 1313509;1446433849;mircea_popescu;stupid bitch won't put out ? thinks the world is the set of seventh heaven ? 1313510;1446433863;mircea_popescu;fuck her, she gets to be angelina jolie v2.0 1313511;1446433946;phf;BingoBoingo: whatever happened to slimgur? 1313512;1446434243;BingoBoingo;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/277S7RB.txt 1313513;1446434245;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGvug ) 1313514;1446434245;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1313515;1446434295;BingoBoingo;phf: Domain change, booted from hosting because Lardbarges uploaded CP and reported them to their then host 1313516;1446434315;v_diddy;lol 1313517;1446434338;ben_vulpes;that's entirely what you get for working with people outside of your wot. 1313518;1446434358;ben_vulpes;unrelatedly: http://www.grindwork.com/site/online-service 1313519;1446434360;assbot;Online Shared Accounts | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGBlI ) 1313520;1446434361;mircea_popescu;lmao 1313521;1446434378;ben_vulpes;wronggggg link 1313522;1446434379;ben_vulpes;http://www.grindwork.com/site/node/34 1313523;1446434381;assbot;Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGC9f ) 1313524;1446434404;phf;oh, i was wondering what was up with all those underage pictures popping up. seemed like an personal army attack 1313525;1446434408;mircea_popescu;imgur obviously doesn't get kicked off because "cp" because "we have no control what the internet does". but slimgur does get booted. 1313526;1446434410;ben_vulpes;> requires flash 1313527;1446434416;mircea_popescu;please more net neutrality kthx 1313528;1446434537;deedbot-;[cascadian hacker] Links 2015-10-31 Sat: self-driving cars, short fiction, Nigerian lolz, ship photos, Volkswagen's embroilment in ship engine number fudging, planes landing on cargo ships, the Palestinian Authority and more! - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/01_links-2015-10-31-sat-self-driving-cars-short-fiction-nigerian-lolz-ship-photos-volkswagens-embroilment-in-ship-engine-number-fudging-planes-land 1313529;1446434568;mircea_popescu;this title is big enough! 1313530;1446434582;*;mircea_popescu goes to read all sopping wet 1313531;1446434595;mircea_popescu;404 Not Found 1313532;1446434595;mircea_popescu;nginx/1.7.6 1313533;1446434600;mircea_popescu;now i feel like a girl foreals. 1313534;1446434601;punkman;perhaps bot should skip the title 1313535;1446434652;ben_vulpes;tonight we fuzz deedbot-! 1313536;1446434687;ben_vulpes;lol mp cannae finda de cocka 1313537;1446434732;mircea_popescu;lol footnote 3 ftw. 1313538;1446434755;mircea_popescu;i find references to cannae very hurtful and unnecessary for my roman republican heritage. 1313539;1446434775;mircea_popescu;TOO MANY GOOD PEOPLE DIED THERE 1313540;1446434836;mircea_popescu;ahaha that pic was in teh logs was it. great pic. 1313541;1446434850;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: it's cited appropriately even 1313542;1446434863;ben_vulpes;albeit in a footnote 1313543;1446434874;mircea_popescu;o hey 1313544;1446434951;ben_vulpes;wait biel is jolie 2.0? i thought jolie remained relevant far longer for some reason. 1313545;1446434968;mircea_popescu;she did ? 1313546;1446435001;mircea_popescu;she's moved into a zsa zsa gabor phase before being 35. clinging to headlines with stuipid shit like "i took the fat out of my tits and replaced it with oil to support BP and Shell!" 1313547;1446435021;trinque;ben_vulpes | tonight we fuzz deedbot-! << escuse 1313548;1446435050;phf;he last and only good role was in the hackers, but that carried her pretty far 1313549;1446435077;ben_vulpes;i don't actually know anything about pop culture, my parents only let me watch Oregon Public Broadcasting. 1313550;1446435089;ben_vulpes;by the time i might have given a shit, i was already interested in other things. 1313551;1446435256;BingoBoingo;Oh, Jolie I think finally completely had herself surgically desexed. 1313552;1446435294;phf;our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example 1313553;1446435367;mircea_popescu;phf i really can't watch anything with/about computers 1313554;1446435378;mircea_popescu;i'd rather watch namibian television reports about wall street 1313555;1446435421;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054524 = 5.1253 BTC [+] {2} 1313556;1446435479;phf;mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games. 1313557;1446435524;mircea_popescu;there's also a bunch of chicks that are kinda worth fucking that will be old before i get around to them 1313558;1446435567;mircea_popescu;i'd rather rewatch lorna than look at "hollywood does floppy disks" 1313559;1446435603;mircea_popescu;(for the people who weren't hipsters in the 60s, russ meyer is this guy doing footage of chicks with absurdly big natural tits. nothing happens.) 1313560;1446435631;phf;give me that old time religion 1313561;1446435667;mircea_popescu;i find the pastoral images soothing 1313562;1446435780;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes re your interests in low brow apple "status goods" etc, see the excellent tlp http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/luxury_branding_the_future_lea.html 1313563;1446435782;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The World ... ( http://bit.ly/20miBFG ) 1313564;1446435949;ben_vulpes;my WHAT?! 1313565;1446436047;mircea_popescu;hey, you're discussing it! 1313566;1446436066;mircea_popescu;"What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc 1313567;1446436100;mircea_popescu;yes actual rich people also want to buy these things. to wear at the hackathon, to play the role of the billionaire who hangs around and chats with the derps, without having to actually spend any time on like... you know, irc. 1313568;1446436102;ben_vulpes;i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me. 1313569;1446436107;mircea_popescu;same differential. 1313570;1446436123;ben_vulpes;ah hm. 1313571;1446436143;mircea_popescu;anyway im just sayin', he speaks as to the theme, and well. 1313572;1446436231;mircea_popescu;"Not even the girls will condescend to it, and if you can't sell fashion goods to the girls, you can't sell the goods." << fun fact, ties are a purchase mostly controlled by women. JUST LIKE HIGH HEELS, 1313573;1446436249;mircea_popescu;i might be the only male alive dictating high heel usage as to type and so forth. 1313574;1446436283;mircea_popescu;this patriarchy embedded in society by older womenz. 1313575;1446436353;ben_vulpes;who uh 1313576;1446436357;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes but anyway, your intuition is broadly correct, the one thing that can make your shop flourish / ensure its survival is heavy duty investment in IP. the real thing, the sort of IP that can't be intellectually-protected. 1313577;1446436359;ben_vulpes;doesn't buy their own ties? 1313578;1446436378;mircea_popescu;nobody buys their own ties. nobody even WEARS ties without permission. "honey does this go ?" 1313579;1446436403;ben_vulpes;"oui, ça marche" 1313580;1446436415;ben_vulpes;who are these people 1313581;1446436419;ben_vulpes;men i mean 1313582;1446436454;mircea_popescu;give someone a tie see if they wear it. 1313583;1446436455;ben_vulpes;with suits and ties and didn't do the matching originally and daily selection selection on an ongoing basis? 1313584;1446436464;mircea_popescu;(hint : if they do they're gay and think you'd make a great gf) 1313585;1446436480;ben_vulpes;well yes. 1313586;1446436513;ben_vulpes;but to return to an earlier fork, what intuition are you talking about? something in that post? 1313587;1446436520;mircea_popescu;wellyesley 1313588;1446436523;ben_vulpes;oh oh oh 1313589;1446436529;ben_vulpes;"institutional quality memory" 1313590;1446436533;mircea_popescu;myeah. 1313591;1446436535;ben_vulpes;quite. 1313592;1446436540;mircea_popescu;it is ip, right and proper. 1313593;1446436605;BingoBoingo;I buy my own ties. It's why half of them are bolo ties. 1313594;1446436614;ben_vulpes;tis a vaporous and difficult to grasp sort of thing. embedded in the people, codified where possible. 1313595;1446436641;mod6;ive never been given a tie. i buy all of mine. 1313596;1446436651;ben_vulpes;lol that kid in the patek ad with the safety vest 1313597;1446436665;ben_vulpes;rip out all the branding and there's your class giveaway. 1313598;1446436683;ben_vulpes;"honey, put a vest on the kid" only ever has 2 answers 1313599;1446436693;ben_vulpes;"okay dear" and "what did he forget how to swim?" 1313600;1446436730;BingoBoingo;Phun Phact, Putin is Patek's greatest brand ambassador 1313601;1446436750;mircea_popescu;another fun fact : i never met anyone who actually wore those things 1313602;1446436773;mircea_popescu;people who actually like/can afford those things have all sorts of obscure preferences, people who don't buy rollexes on credit. 1313603;1446436797;mircea_popescu;pp is like a sort of tgi fridays or w/e that thing it's called, a fastrestaurantfood. 1313604;1446436827;ben_vulpes;Fast Casual 1313605;1446436857;mod6;that place punches me in the colon 1313606;1446436864;mircea_popescu;"That's the history of America: come here for the freedom; stay for the cash; and if things get hairy say only God can judge you." 1313607;1446436879;BingoBoingo;When I worked at a watch stand I learned all sorts of lower end brand preferences. White trash likes fossil. More monied white trash like Tag Heuer, or Invicta if they got the collecting compulsion 1313608;1446436900;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: did you actually read the "i spent thousands learning to be a wealth manager" piece? she touches on signaling. 1313609;1446436922;mircea_popescu;who ? 1313610;1446436947;mircea_popescu;an random dumb broad, i recall. no i didn't read it. 1313611;1446436971;BingoBoingo;Black girls like Guess, Black guys like Nike or esoteric bling brands from more obscure shops. People buy Seiko almost exclusively as gifts... 1313612;1446436975;ben_vulpes;academitard i belive is the local lingo 1313613;1446437023;ben_vulpes;"you, the viewer, become the Dad, with the aspirational images laid out for you: a beautiful and proper wife with culture and delicacy, taking care of your perfect daughter, while you're in the shower scrubbing the scent of concubinage off you. " wahahaha 1313614;1446437090;mircea_popescu;if only. 1313615;1446437112;mircea_popescu;i am of the firm belief that an adult male with wealth and a monofambly is a liability to both the wife and the children. 1313616;1446437132;mircea_popescu;the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement. 1313617;1446437169;mircea_popescu;next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets. 1313618;1446437202;ben_vulpes;not terrifically uncommon knowledge in "the coven". i think "sex at dawn" is their tract on the topic. 1313619;1446437212;mircea_popescu;what's the coven ? 1313620;1446437272;ben_vulpes;a smallish group of girls around here. not an official name or thing by any stretch of the imagination. 1313621;1446437275;mircea_popescu;ah 1313622;1446437317;ben_vulpes;affectionate appellation 1313623;1446437496;ben_vulpes;heh okay i'll bite is 9 1/2 weeks any good? 1313624;1446437539;mircea_popescu;nmah it's miserable. 1313625;1446437573;mircea_popescu;i watched it because of tlp's idiotic fixation on basinger and an insistence on "white heels". a) she wears no heels at all ; b) she is as hot as my doorman. 1313626;1446437591;mircea_popescu;worst fucking film ever, the only thing it informs us is, just how fucktardedly primitive our parents were, sexually speaking. 1313627;1446437616;mircea_popescu;"o really pops, she like, kisses your wee wee that once, and the skin was even retracted ? you go tiger!" 1313628;1446437809;mod6;haha 1313629;1446437824;BingoBoingo;Seriously, at least "Three Headed Shark Attack" has tits 1313630;1446437832;ben_vulpes; that place punches me in the colon << i lol'd 1313631;1446438018;mod6;place makes me seriously ill. 1313632;1446438066;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/pedophilia_is_normal_because_o.html <<< ahahaha epic. 1313633;1446438070;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Pedophilia Is Normal, Because Otherwise It's Abnormal ... ( http://bit.ly/1ShE2SY ) 1313634;1446438143;mircea_popescu;so the truth of the matter is that yes, sexual interest in early teen females is normal and common, and perhaps not ~necessarily~ harmful to the females in question [in those conditions where communication is sparse and pop density is under 1 per sq mile - which pointedly DOES NOT mean NYC or akron, ohio!], whereas sexual interest in bosy the same age is NOT common, or normal. but pathological. period. 1313635;1446438157;mircea_popescu;this yields the serious problem that... when does gayness ripen into no longer pathological ? and why ? 1313636;1446438166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20614 @ 0.00054533 = 11.2414 BTC [+] 1313637;1446438178;mircea_popescu;these two groups, the people who want to fuck 14 yo girls, and the people who do not want faggotry to be mental illness, will come to blows. 1313638;1446438580;phf;re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет 1313639;1446438638;ben_vulpes;forgive my thickness, but their interests are not aligned? 1313640;1446438639;phf;but of course breguet had to choose the other quote for their ads, this one sends a mixed message 1313641;1446438651;*;ben_vulpes is still working through the luxury branding article 1313642;1446438959;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80144 @ 0.00054696 = 43.8356 BTC [+] {4} 1313643;1446439020;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00054848 = 5.6801 BTC [+] 1313644;1446439642;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes no, because try as one might, the genders may be interchangeable but the sexes - not. 1313645;1446439719;mircea_popescu;i'd fucking run it, if i were running breguet. 1313646;1446439734;mircea_popescu;"this watch or back to the village. choose." 1313647;1446439845;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313556 << them and only them 1313648;1446439845;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:37:59; phf: mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games. 1313649;1446439896;mircea_popescu;is broadly intended to mean "in the manner of a slightly-derogatory old style word for female" ? 1313650;1446439905;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313552 << i must have watched these same tapes. except that they came from some underground (literally) rental thing in '90 or so 1313651;1446439905;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:34:54; phf: our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example 1313652;1446440225;*;asciilifeform spoke to brother of poettering, drepper, et al, and he replied 'wouldn't it be interesting if someone built a thing where people signed code with pgp and rated one another and...' 1313653;1446440257;phf;oh yeah american ninja might've been from rental, but then i have no idea what was on those tapes. the only stuff i do remember are commercials for transformers and hot wheels 1313654;1446440336;phf;breguet, becase you're not a peasant are you? 1313655;1446440603;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313638 << l0l!! 1313656;1446440603;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 04:29:40; phf: re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет 1313657;1446440624;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform waitwut ?! 1313658;1446440651;asciilifeform;which 1313659;1446440661;mircea_popescu;* asciilifeform spoke to brother 1313660;1446440664;asciilifeform;aha 1313661;1446440667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26419 @ 0.00054323 = 14.3516 BTC [-] {2} 1313662;1446440667;mircea_popescu;o wait. now i understand. 1313663;1446440677;mircea_popescu;it segmented wrongly. 1313664;1446440689;asciilifeform;'the hookers churchill and stalin...' 1313665;1446440742;mircea_popescu;:D 1313666;1446440752;BingoBoingo;Too old to be news https://www.thefix.com/content/texas-truck-company-DEA-agent90446 1313667;1446440753;assbot;DEA Recruitment Hurts Texas Trucking Co. | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLyOxa ) 1313668;1446440769;mircea_popescu;romanian has an entire chapter dedicated to these. the fundamental attribution error, in romanian, is the confusion between 2nd line attribute and agent-complement 1313669;1446440801;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: we have the mega-canonical 'казнить нельзя помиловать' 1313670;1446440871;mircea_popescu;lol 1313671;1446440899;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313566 << i might have said this before, and ben_vulpes can no doubt explain it better still, but apple makes two entirely separate classes of thing, even if sometimes they are contained in a single box 1313672;1446440899;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:47:46; mircea_popescu: "What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc 1313673;1446440903;mircea_popescu;waiter, yelling out the order to cook : "la domnu' porc, la doamna vaca si la domnisoara-n fund un castravete." 1313674;1446440908;asciilifeform;idiot statusatronics, 1313675;1446440919;mircea_popescu;(to the gent, pork, to the lady, veal, and to the miss in the back, a pickle.) 1313676;1446440920;asciilifeform;and the-ONLY-MOTHERFUCKING-PORTABLE-COMPS-THAT-WORK 1313677;1446440974;mircea_popescu;(to mr pig, to mrs cow and up the girl's butt, a pickle) 1313678;1446441004;*;asciilifeform falls down 1313679;1446441521;mircea_popescu;"I'm an economics major who doesn't know what the hell he is going to do for a career after graduating, and frankly doesn't feel qualified to do very much. I went into university thinking that I would try for medical school, but I was one of those kids in high school who got good grades without trying very hard, and my nearly non-existent study habits have left me with a C average, although even that has been slipping 1313680;1446441521;mircea_popescu;lately. Now that I'm nearing the end of my academic career, I'm starting to freak out about my career potential, and the related anxiety has me neglecting school work even further." 1313681;1446441528;mircea_popescu;from the anal child files : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/my_fiancee_is_pushing_me_away.html 1313682;1446441530;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: "My fiancee is pushing me away and I've lost hope" ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLzEKr ) 1313683;1446441546;mircea_popescu;this is what you get for stopping bullying. 1313684;1446441552;asciilifeform;a warm welcome awaits him here in butugychag. 1313685;1446441568;mircea_popescu;this fuckhead should have been getting atomic whirlies and shitwedgies for 20 hours a day until he killed himself aged 15. 1313686;1446441607;asciilifeform;if these are subvarieties of thrashing - then yes 1313687;1446441725;mircea_popescu;sadly they're the pathetic us passive-agressive reinterpretations thereof. 1313688;1446441738;*;asciilifeform had to go and look both of'em up 1313689;1446441868;asciilifeform;'It started with Mortimer J Adler and his 'How to Read a Book'. I bought it about two years ago, and shortly after that time I became fixated on the idea of getting a liberal education and reading the Great Books.' >> blatant ripoff of http://mazepath.com/uncleal/think.htm 1313690;1446441869;assbot;THINKING ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLzZN9 ) 1313691;1446441896;mircea_popescu;the obnoxious thing is that tlp fucking coddles the fucktard. 1313692;1446441898;asciilifeform;(this circa 1997. for some reason the copy on his www omits the date) 1313693;1446441934;mircea_popescu;"go kill yourself. now. this is the best thing any specialist could ever tell you, and the only thing that you really should hear, from anyone. you are an unfortunately failed experiment in biocombinatorics. end it already, it's both uninteresting and wasteful." 1313694;1446441989;mircea_popescu;this acting like every vessel that didn't happen to get a soul at fill-up is nevertheless full and should be given attention... sigh. 1313695;1446442030;mircea_popescu;EVEN IF they find some way to "fix it" what they'll have found is a way to make empty bottles fake fullness for longer than anyone'd care to inquire. 1313696;1446442049;mircea_popescu;there's nothing to fix here. these aren't problems people get. these are problems things trying to masquerade as people get. 1313697;1446442181;asciilifeform;'To this day I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. It reached down and cupped me in Its hands, lifting me up from my hole. As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster.' 1313698;1446442204;mircea_popescu;wager of battle. 1313699;1446442215;mircea_popescu;i wager no fucking higher power would as much as sneeze on this one. 1313700;1446442365;BingoBoingo;The stories at Thinker's Anonymous have to suck 1313701;1446442375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42448 @ 0.00054996 = 23.3447 BTC [+] {3} 1313702;1446442410;BingoBoingo;https://www.thefix.com/content/ukraines-bar-bears-be-freed-forced-vodka-drinking 1313703;1446442412;assbot;A New Detox—for Drunken Bears | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWPRwK ) 1313704;1446442496;asciilifeform;fucking eurorasts 1313705;1446442523;asciilifeform;first they ban old fashioned bear baiting, before long it'll be mandatory patek philip and butt piracy for everyone 1313706;1446442620;BingoBoingo;Seriously.Though it would be something to see a bear holding hands in a circle growling out a serenity prayer. 1313707;1446442921;BingoBoingo;Bears are supposed to be a measure of culture though. If meet a bear and it mauls you your culture sucks. If you meet a bear and it shares your booze, your culture is enlightened. If the bear buggers you stop hanging around furries. 1313708;1446442924;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34978 @ 0.0005418 = 18.9511 BTC [-] {2} 1313709;1446443085;asciilifeform;server log spam >>>>> 'http://www.twitter.com/tweet_anything_bad_about_a_fee_paying_customer_and_the_tweet_gets_hidden-its_what_you_call_mafia_protection' 1313710;1446443159;BingoBoingo;From same place as Ukranian bear story https://www.thefix.com/content/grizzly-bear-gets-all-harsh-stoner 1313711;1446443161;assbot;Grizzly Bear Gets All Harsh With Stoner | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWRytS ) 1313712;1446443218;BingoBoingo;Apparently bear fight like the morbidly obese: "According to court records, Hopkins went to feed the bears, which was part of his job. He entered the bear pen and began to place food out. Once inside, nothing separated him from the bears. At some point while Hopkins was working, the largest bear, Red, attacked him. The bear knocked Hopkins to the ground, sat on him, and bit his leg, knee and rear-end." 1313713;1446443639;BingoBoingo;!up coercively 1313714;1446443739;mircea_popescu;!up coercively 1313715;1446443759;coercively;fun. 1313716;1446443784;mircea_popescu;who might you be ? 1313717;1446443800;coercively;Idk. Random. 1313718;1446443846;mircea_popescu;mk 1313719;1446443850;coercively;Somehow wandered here on my very inspirational journey of ircing. 1313720;1446444117;fluffypony;it's just ircing on the cake 1313721;1446444124;ben_vulpes;oof 1313722;1446444127;fluffypony;that's all I got 1313723;1446444131;fluffypony;not enough coffee 1313724;1446444162;fluffypony;awwww he quit 1313725;1446444198;ben_vulpes;full stop 1313726;1446444311;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: are you familiar with grindwork? 1313727;1446444517;mircea_popescu;badoing kssss 1313728;1446444662;phf;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri3aL8At44I 1313729;1446444663;assbot;Bizarre - Henny Youngman - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWVxqu ) 1313730;1446445182;punkman;http://catcode.com/comments/2015/cf20151101.html trolol 1313731;1446445184;assbot;Linus’s Rant Rewritten ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnWqsH ) 1313732;1446445638;mircea_popescu;The reason I think women are hot today is that they are today, not that they are hot. I watch pornos from the seventies and I think to myself, "well, it would be better than bestiality, I guess." 1313733;1446445644;mircea_popescu;EXACTLY. 1313734;1446445670;mircea_popescu;"Disclaimer: I am not a kernel programmer, so I may have am certain I have misinterpreted some of the technical aspects of Linuss original post." 1313735;1446445687;mircea_popescu;yet i am a self-deluded imbecile, who imagines she still has something to say in spite of that. 1313736;1446445691;mircea_popescu;for fucks sake these dumb bitches. \ 1313737;1446445715;mircea_popescu;YO STUPID WOMEN : SHUT THE FUCK UP. nobody, really, literally, nobody wants to see or hear you. the kitchen is good enough. 1313738;1446445718;mircea_popescu;stop giving feminism a bad name. 1313739;1446446306;punkman;http://pgbovine.net/cde.html interesting 1313740;1446446307;assbot;CDE: Lightweight application virtualization for Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnYbWE ) 1313741;1446446360;ben_vulpes;wheee 1313742;1446446369;ben_vulpes;punkman: ^^ 1313743;1446446372;ben_vulpes;running it anywhere? 1313744;1446446415;punkman;ben_vulpes: not yet but seems like it might come in handy 1313745;1446446474;ben_vulpes;> nasty-bash-hack.txt 1313746;1446447013;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2015/11/qntra-s-qntr-october-2015-report/#comment-72680 1313747;1446447014;assbot;Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Report | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnZ81j ) 1313748;1446447077;BingoBoingo;http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/11/02/0125246/botnet-takes-over-twitch-install-and-partially-installs-gentoo 1313749;1446447079;assbot;Botnet Takes Over Twitch Install and Partially Installs Gentoo - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnZeWH ) 1313750;1446447093;punkman;lol 1313751;1446447150;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1313752;1446447156;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 328.5, vol: 14099.29617567 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 311.302, vol: 15677.1435 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 332.55, vol: 27391.45060369 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 339.99, vol: 2.88929293 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 351.279968, vol: 44889.58240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 317.0, vol: 63.84609024 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 297.177661027, vol: 51.8480377 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1313753;1446447197;BingoBoingo;;;more 1313754;1446447197;gribble;336.932289429 1313755;1446447232;mircea_popescu;lol @eth's strange week... 1313756;1446447262;mircea_popescu;from 1.x to 4 then to 3 then rebound then... then what ? 1313757;1446447266;mircea_popescu;but hey, hope springs eternally. 1313758;1446447325;mircea_popescu;on 4 oct, last time it was 3, the "mkt cap" was 50mn. now 80mn. because sure, 60% inflation month to month, this works now. 1313759;1446447359;mircea_popescu;supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o. 1313760;1446447399;BingoBoingo;Oh shit 1313761;1446447526;*;ben_vulpes gaily refuses to give a shit about ethereum 1313762;1446447545;ben_vulpes;i met vitalik when he was just writing and like a 19 year old college student 1313763;1446447847;ben_vulpes;very pimply, upon recollection. 1313764;1446448528;BingoBoingo;Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay 1313765;1446448750;ben_vulpes;goodness bb 1313766;1446449170;BingoBoingo;I'm sober and its Sunday, grumpy is my primary feel and venom my primary language atm 1313767;1446449287;BingoBoingo;!s See the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny. 1313768;1446449287;assbot;1 results for 'See the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny.' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=See+the+advantages%3A+you+can+reprogram+the+faux+vroom+speaker+for+horse+whinny. 1313769;1446449502;BingoBoingo;But for srs, isn't that the Startup incubators eating college kids racket in a nutshell. 19 year old buterin taking it in the ass for money. Aged as though he's thirty he can't the the VC money, he gets the crack rock every fifth blowie in an alley money. 1313770;1446452501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00055197 = 8.5831 BTC [+] {3} 1313771;1446452928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28757 @ 0.00055232 = 15.8831 BTC [+] {3} 1313772;1446453965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87168 @ 0.00054644 = 47.6321 BTC [-] {6} 1313773;1446454615;shinohai;!s http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/asia/australia-drops-knights-dames/ 1313774;1446454616;assbot;Australia drops knights and dames, again - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHu8cb ) 1313775;1446454616;assbot;0 results for 'http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/asia/australia-drops-knights-dames/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2015%2F11%2F02%2Fasia%2Faustralia-drops-knights-dames%2F 1313776;1446455328;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313764 <<< my new favorit BingoBoingo quote. 1313777;1446455328;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 07:15:28; BingoBoingo: Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay 1313778;1446455684;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.04130723 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b57 1313779;1446455685;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.07718066 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b58 1313780;1446457619;davout;bonjour #b-a 1313781;1446459699;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17897 @ 0.00055285 = 9.8944 BTC [+] {2} 1313782;1446460736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00055442 = 4.7974 BTC [+] 1313783;1446462383;btcdrak;can you smell the desperation now? https://medium.com/@octskyward/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830#.eflnvw6u2 1313784;1446462384;assbot;On block sizes — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1KSOCcN ) 1313785;1446463286;davout;btcdrak: the "chinese translation here" is pretty lulzy too 1313786;1446463298;btcdrak;"In talking with miners and companies, one thing I’m hearing repeatedly is “we will wait for the second conference in December. If there’s no progress by then, we’ll switch to BIP 101”. 1313787;1446463304;btcdrak;that is a complete lie. 1313788;1446463346;btcdrak;What he means is a few companies that dont even run their own full nodes but have millions in VC capital have said they support BIP101 1313789;1446463370;btcdrak;Mike is an outright liar. 1313790;1446463413;btcdrak;in fact, most of what he's written in that article is an outright lie 1313791;1446463457;davout;and obviously, most of these stances are taken by the marketing derps, while the actual people who actually hold their business together are too busy not caring and working on actual problems anyway 1313792;1446463544;btcdrak;!up BashCo 1313793;1446463669;davout;"Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men who already shipped a compromise solution that reflects the demands of miners, users and companies." <<< it strikes me as weird then that "users", "miners", and "companies" aren't running it, why could it be? 1313794;1446463695;davout;micro-conspiruhcee 1313795;1446464426;btcdrak;the whole thing is so crass 1313796;1446465541;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313783 <<< This sounds like sour grapes xD 1313797;1446465541;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 11:06:23; btcdrak: can you smell the desperation now? https://medium.com/@octskyward/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830#.eflnvw6u2 1313798;1446465699;shinohai;Not like anyone is twisting anyone's arm and forcing them to run core, or anything else for that matter. 1313799;1446465701;btcdrak;mircea_popescu: BashCo is a r/bitcoin moderator 1313800;1446465726;shinohai;BashCo is also involved in changetip or somesuch iirc 1313801;1446465732;shinohai;!gettrust BashCo 1313802;1446465732;assbot;BashCo is not registered in WoT. 1313803;1446465742;shinohai;Hardly surprising. 1313804;1446466222;shinohai;https://i.imgur.com/puZWjVZ.png <<< Impossible, how can you carve such a mass from a single block of wood? 1313805;1446466223;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM8NxV ) 1313806;1446466409;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 442 @ 0.00352177 = 1.5566 BTC [-] {7} 1313807;1446468178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00054376 = 7.1504 BTC [-] {2} 1313808;1446468552;mircea_popescu;btcdrak BashCo hi theee 1313809;1446468920;fluffypony;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3r7b8k/can_unullc_please_return/ 1313810;1446468921;assbot;Can /u/nullc please return? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHGq4c ) 1313811;1446469154;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50119 @ 0.0005476 = 27.4452 BTC [+] {2} 1313812;1446469216;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSyo3khWIAAREfJ.jpg:large 1313813;1446469217;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixJiF5 ) 1313814;1446469276;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00055415 = 12.9671 BTC [+] {2} 1313815;1446470157;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSzEClZU8AAhA70.png 1313816;1446470157;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHHKEt ) 1313817;1446470547;punkman;https://noransom.kaspersky.com/ 1313818;1446470548;assbot;Ransomware decryptor | Kaspersky Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixLlck ) 1313819;1446470561;mircea_popescu;nowai ?> 1313820;1446470567;punkman;"The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database." 1313821;1446470586;shinohai;r/dogecoin lulz "yay we matter! skids want to get paid in our scamcoinz!" https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/3r51o8/anime_streaming_website_got_hacked_hackers_want/ 1313822;1446470587;assbot;Anime streaming website got hacked, hackers want dogecoin for database information. : dogecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixLpsw ) 1313823;1446470625;mircea_popescu;impressive. 1313824;1446470831;shinohai;oct. 28 0.o 1313825;1446470873;punkman;https://twitter.com/aannggeellll/status/573186044083900416 "Yay! Yay everyone! I got a new arm! #Cyborg step one: complete." 1313826;1446470904;mircea_popescu;but can jack off with it ? 1313827;1446470914;punkman;a lot of people are wondering 1313828;1446470978;mircea_popescu;"The Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas, Nev., has come under scrutiny since one of its patrons suffered an actual heart attack while eating a Triple Bypass Burger there earlier this week." 1313829;1446471129;mircea_popescu;"There is no information there. It is there in order for you to talk about it-- so you have something to talk to others about, through a screen darkly or face to face, because if it weren't for these meaningless media stories which includes all partisan politics people would have nothing to say to each other, and society's collapse into hikikomori narcissism would be total. Which is why it is correct to say that pop 1313830;1446471129;mircea_popescu;culture isn't a symptom of our dying society, it is its heroic measures." 1313831;1446471142;mircea_popescu;word. "why can't i quit pop culture ?" "because to you it's a solution, not a problem." 1313832;1446471777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10967 @ 0.00054768 = 6.0064 BTC [-] 1313833;1446472441;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo pretty much it yeah. 1313834;1446472460;mircea_popescu;hola davout 1313835;1446472477;davout;ave 1313836;1446472496;mircea_popescu; Mike is an outright liar. << this is neither surprising nor remarkable by this point. 1313837;1446472514;mircea_popescu;eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring. 1313838;1446472524;davout;that he still *is*, is. 1313839;1446472551;mircea_popescu; "Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men << who are the men ?! 1313840;1446472589;mircea_popescu;davout what exactly are they gonna do, go take up gardening ? 1313841;1446472596;mircea_popescu;fade into an alt scam, a la keiser ? 1313842;1446472681;mircea_popescu;punkman so far bitcoin is batting 0 / 2 for "criminal anonimity" is it. 1313843;1446472748;davout;anything! 1313844;1446472772;davout;just not the same retarded stuff, "but nao with chinese translashun!1" 1313845;1446472794;punkman;mircea_popescu: it's not so bad for the competent, is it? 1313846;1446472813;mircea_popescu;so far there's been "o noes drug market!11" 1313847;1446472815;mircea_popescu;got closed down 1313848;1446472823;mircea_popescu;"we encrypt your hdd, pay btc". 1313849;1446472825;mircea_popescu;got closed down 1313850;1446472843;mircea_popescu;all the pants wetting about "Assasination markets" and whatnot is probably misplaced. 1313851;1446472856;mircea_popescu;i assassinated buterin, lolski, derpersson, whoever. no need for a "market". 1313852;1446472875;mircea_popescu;meanwhile dumbass white kids in montana can't get laid with or without assistance, what markets. 1313853;1446472917;mircea_popescu;seems the entire "bitcoin is for crymynalzzzz" is more of the same "i wish i was cool, maybe if i put this hat on ?" 1313854;1446473085;*;shinohai would not be surprised to hear of XThereum soon http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313837 1313855;1446473085;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 13:55:14; mircea_popescu: eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring. 1313856;1446473110;mircea_popescu;Neo BTC 1313857;1446473130;mircea_popescu;it's like the matrix, see. take the red pill of escaping censorship into the loving embrace of the nsa ofshots! 1313858;1446473158;punkman;mircea_popescu: also "I wish I was rich, maybe if I had an offshore trust" 1313859;1446473188;mircea_popescu;you wanna be rich, get a better dad. 1313860;1446473193;mircea_popescu;no better dad, BE the better dad. 1313861;1446473464;mircea_popescu;"If you want to watch these invisible unconscious defenses play out right in front of you, in real time, in a real way, watch an adult American try to learn a second language. 1313862;1446473465;mircea_popescu;Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything." 1313863;1446473466;mircea_popescu;ahaha is it ? 1313864;1446473854;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313820 << oh for fuxsake, did you READ the analysis ? 1313865;1446473854;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 13:22:47; punkman: "The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database." 1313866;1446473856;asciilifeform;these were TARDS 1313867;1446473863;asciilifeform;as in, folks who write virii in 'dotnet' 1313868;1446473967;mircea_popescu;ofcoursetheywere. 1313869;1446473996;mircea_popescu;this is the overarching point. idiot : "bitcoin empowers idiots just like me". no, it doesn't. 1313870;1446474002;mircea_popescu;it actually disempowers idiots just like you. 1313871;1446474062;mircea_popescu;"so then what hope for anarcho-syndicalism is there ???" you mean that enchanted land where you don't have to work because you're somehow rich and yet idiots being rich does not degrade richdom ? plus you have "all the choices" but never have to take one to get there ? "yes!!!!" 1313872;1446474065;asciilifeform;https://securelist.com/blog/virus-watch/67699/a-nightmare-on-malware-street << their paper re: 'coinvault' (one of the two trojans in question.) good for some lulz for mats, diametric, and anybody else who goes in for this 1313873;1446474071;assbot;A Nightmare on Malware Street - CoinVault - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1k4H2XH ) 1313874;1446474071;mircea_popescu;can't help you. 1313875;1446474153;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kinda too lazy to read, but what did they do, caught some derp's gf's mother's (she was underage) cc on coinbase or what. 1313876;1446474172;shinohai;LOLZ 1313877;1446474193;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: describes only the exe 1313878;1446474207;mircea_popescu;my laziness is well placed. 1313879;1446474234;asciilifeform;but given what it describes, the idiot prolly confessed on some phorum 1313880;1446474280;asciilifeform;(everything build with vs, plenty of identifying strings littered therein, as is the custom, uses hardcoded dns turds, etc.) 1313881;1446474288;asciilifeform;*built 1313882;1446474327;asciilifeform;the one thing i don't get is why the fuck these people never set up a btc node on the victim's box 1313883;1446474331;mircea_popescu;i suppose "an actual cryptovault you will never, ever crack" goes into the pile of things the republic is going to strike back with if rattled enough. 1313884;1446474346;asciilifeform;for 'i've been paid' sensor AND pubkey download 1313885;1446474348;mircea_popescu;not like you can't make one of these as an actual autonomous system sitting in hdd cpu 1313886;1446474366;*;asciilifeform just described the recipe for it above. 1313887;1446474370;mircea_popescu;right 1313888;1446474420;mircea_popescu;could be a spv wallet even. it just checks for a speciffic address being paid, derived from the key. 1313889;1446474438;asciilifeform;aha. 1313890;1446474440;asciilifeform;trivial. 1313891;1446474488;mircea_popescu;i suppose it goes on the to-do list once someone myseriously disappears. 1313892;1446474508;*;asciilifeform searches in vain for the logz where he described ~how~ malware artists typically get caught 1313893;1446474561;asciilifeform;(short version: it is almost inevitably by being 'part of th3 l337 sc3n3!!! k00l d00dz!!1111' or any variant thereof) 1313894;1446475257;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: and you prolly meant 'derives the decryption key from the payment tx' 1313895;1446475265;asciilifeform;because that is how this is done. 1313896;1446475283;mircea_popescu;well... rsa is malleable, right ? :D 1313897;1446475320;asciilifeform;(not from the luser's tx, but from a second one, where the robot on the artist's end moves the coin) 1313898;1446475358;mircea_popescu;mmm not really want any moving parts do you. 1313899;1446475383;asciilifeform;the decryption key cannot be in the luser's house. 1313900;1446475388;asciilifeform;because that is retarded. 1313901;1446475389;mircea_popescu;right. 1313902;1446475408;asciilifeform;nor ought there be a 'c&c' box in the usual sense of one that is ever connected to by the trojan. 1313903;1446475409;mircea_popescu;binaryatrocity you're leaking ip. 1313904;1446475415;mircea_popescu;right. 1313905;1446475434;asciilifeform;whole thing is a trivial example of 'can operate entirely as a small patch on a bitcoind' 1313906;1446475443;mircea_popescu;no, not really. 1313907;1446475456;mircea_popescu;whole thing is a trivial example of WHY usg doth not want a sane bitcoind, ie, a 700kb one./ 1313908;1446475468;mircea_popescu;a statically linkable one. etc. 1313909;1446475472;asciilifeform;too late, l0l 1313910;1446475488;mircea_popescu;it specializes in being too late. 1313911;1446475582;asciilifeform;the only reason this is not already sop is that loading a 40GB blockchain is rather conspicuous, even on a lamer's box 1313912;1446475600;mircea_popescu;you don't need the chain. 1313913;1446475601;asciilifeform;(and doing anything short of this opens you up to trickery) 1313914;1446475609;davout;..." 1313915;1446475614;davout;whoops 1313916;1446475617;asciilifeform;you need the chain for the same reason the rest of us need the chain 1313917;1446475620;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00054768 = 13.7468 BTC [-] {2} 1313918;1446475628;mircea_popescu;whyssat ? 1313919;1446475656;asciilifeform;to avoid being relocated to a parallel universe ? 1313920;1446475667;mircea_popescu;no. but ima take this to encrypted. 1313921;1446475725;punkman;why does parallel universe matter? local app must find the key in blockchain, verification is when the key works 1313922;1446475741;*;asciilifeform bbl, off to fill the party's daily uranium quota for the nth five-year plan 1313923;1446475877;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/2T432C8 1313924;1446475880;assbot;dpaste: 2T432C8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHQTwy ) 1313925;1446475925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00054768 = 1.0132 BTC [-] {2} 1313926;1446475957;mircea_popescu;inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny 1313927;1446475961;mircea_popescu; /ironic 1313928;1446476047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00054395 = 1.659 BTC [-] 1313929;1446476377;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/05/thank_god_the_heart_attack_gri.html << pretty great explanation on how psychological defenses work. 1313930;1446476378;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great Name; Also, How To Learn French ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixW46v ) 1313931;1446476859;mircea_popescu;"Take a look at Brandon. When media wants to depict a sex addict they depict the wealthy, the good looking, the powerful, the well hung. There are plenty of slimy basement dwelling janitor sex addicts out there, but they are represented as sex offenders. There are also plenty of gay sex addicts out there, but they are represented as gay. Both of you are dismissed, the world has no time for your nonsense. The sex a 1313932;1446476859;mircea_popescu;ddicts we see in movies and on the news are: rock stars, politicians, sports guys, CEOs. If you think about the demo primed to receive this depiction of lothario as sex addict-- women over 35, i.e. the demo for Shame-- sex addiction needs to be seen as terrible because it is terrible for them. It may also be terrible for the sex addict, but fuck you, we have a society to run." 1313933;1446476882;mircea_popescu;or, "how the women nobody can be bothered to fuck anymore are getting into everyone's business any chance they get". 1313934;1446476944;mircea_popescu;"i know nothing about how kernels work but i'm 36 and i don't think the nielsen box in my house does enough to mess up society - here's some rephrasing i've done in my mysteriously abundant spare time" 1313935;1446477093;mircea_popescu;" Sex addiction rarely breaks laws so it can't be punished, and there's no God so the immorality of it is debatable, i.e. inconsequential. It must be a disease, that way other people don't want to catch it. All psychiatric treatment of constructed syndromes isn't about cure but about regression to the mean, where mean= cubicle drone. " not even, just... please believe that monogynous fambly is the only fambly and it 1313936;1446477094;mircea_popescu;really makes more sense for you to buy her a diamond than for her to turn tricks and bring you the money. 1313937;1446477140;davout;imma read the article, this way i'll get to skip one third of the log :D 1313938;1446477181;mircea_popescu;lol 1313939;1446477197;mircea_popescu;i think it might be about three or four different oens tho 1313940;1446477812;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/03/shame_is_the_desired_outcome.html << ayup, definitely. old farts trying to maintain relevancy by controlling the fucking activities of adolescents ? check. 1313941;1446477814;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Shame Is The Desired Outcome ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixZ2Ip ) 1313942;1446477814;mircea_popescu;"That's the trick of Shame. "He's an attractive, wealthy, guy with a big penis (did you see it, ladies?) but he's not using it properly..." Brandon's sex addiction makes him very un-desirable, no one watches Shame and says, "wow, I want to be Brandon" and no woman says, "wow, I want to be with Brandon." The opposite is true for Tucker Max, who is popular with women, especially the very women that he "degrades." Now 1313943;1446477814;mircea_popescu; what does the system do? 1313944;1446477814;mircea_popescu;There's only one thing it can do: say that these women don't know better, that they're broken women from broken homes... that they're not real women." 1313945;1446478275;mircea_popescu;but anyway, back to the basex. http://38.media.tumblr.com/4be8d52ee4358192d8ba7163e9b9b23c/tumblr_mp4c8gZKqs1sqhhcto1_250.gif 1313946;1446478276;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1iy00UU ) 1313947;1446478304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00055116 = 13.531 BTC [+] 1313948;1446478477;shinohai;Just what the doctor ordered. 1313949;1446478486;thestringpuller;^- makes me think of dr. dre 1313950;1446478516;shinohai;Dr. Dre would be in agreement with me on booty I am almost certain. 1313951;1446478596;mircea_popescu;mk, have the full set http://64hz.tumblr.com/post/54120365215/oh-my-fucking-god 1313952;1446478597;assbot;— OH MY FUCKING GOD ... ( http://bit.ly/1iy0BG6 ) 1313953;1446478633;mircea_popescu;(psa : if you're female, in your 20s and ~couldn't~ replace either girl at my option, you fail at life. practice more, this is important. reading jezbel is not.) 1313954;1446479753;thestringpuller;hearn's newest article is so desperate, I can taste the fear. 1313955;1446480129;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3WN40WF.txt 1313956;1446480134;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1313957;1446480150;mircea_popescu;how's the pluranium mines 1313958;1446480160;davout;the smell from afar is going to be more than enough for me 1313959;1446480199;*;asciilifeform continues on the way. 1313960;1446480232;mircea_popescu;mayhap you're right. 1313961;1446480453;thestringpuller; /wind 10 1313962;1446480459;thestringpuller;>:( 1313963;1446480622;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15371 @ 0.00054301 = 8.3466 BTC [-] {3} 1313964;1446482739;mircea_popescu;!up keyless 1313965;1446482758;mircea_popescu;!up iinaj 1313966;1446482792;keyless;just listening today (mike_c at work). Don't have my key accessible. 1313967;1446482880;mircea_popescu;cool 1313968;1446483427;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSjj1hcUkAAOMuC.jpg 1313969;1446483428;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6acCl ) 1313970;1446483911;keyless;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2015/1101/Antarctica-is-actually-gaining-ice-says-NASA.-Is-global-warming-over 1313971;1446483911;assbot;Antarctica is actually gaining ice, says NASA. Is global warming over? - CSMonitor.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmuZEN ) 1313972;1446483928;keyless;for all the climate deniers in the room. 1313973;1446484138;mircea_popescu;wait, we deny there's a climate ? 1313974;1446484153;mircea_popescu;!up ascii_field 1313975;1446484413;mircea_popescu;"This is how I know that anyone who says, "If only I could live in Mad Men time where you could pinch a girl's ass and not get in trouble for it" is going to be way disappointed if a TARDIS shows up, because they wouldn't pinch them back then, either, not because they are afraid of trouble but because they are afraid of girls. Exhibit A: you know what a TARDIS is." 1313976;1446484441;mircea_popescu;motherfucker i only know what it is because i looked it up because you're fucking obsessed with it. 1313977;1446484443;*;ascii_field was never able to fully hold in laughter when hearing of 'tardis' 1313978;1446484444;mircea_popescu;hot damn. 1313979;1446484471;mircea_popescu;never read blogs, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience! 1313980;1446484502;ascii_field;(turned out, it was a time machine from an ancient british tv series where a multiverse-travelling demigod picks up british chix and fights alien vermin etc) 1313981;1446484577;mircea_popescu;ftr : i've been here over a year and i've not pinched a single butt (the plain variety - on the street, uknown - let's not get into perversion) because a) they're short and b) they're petrified. 1313982;1446484591;ascii_field;holy fuck 1313983;1446484600;mircea_popescu;ascii_field wasn't it in that time traveling british thing with the guy with wild hair and the two kids ? 1313984;1446484610;ascii_field;gcc 5.2 won't build gpg 1.4. 1313985;1446484617;mircea_popescu;well yes 1313986;1446484618;*;ascii_field falls down. 1313987;1446484755;ascii_field;and not only, 1313988;1446484758;ascii_field;but also https://github.com/manjaro/packages-core/issues/12 1313989;1446484759;assbot;[linux] older LTS kernels are not compatible to gcc 5.1 · Issue #12 · manjaro/packages-core · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmwToR ) 1313990;1446484766;ascii_field;and fuck knows what and where else. 1313991;1446484840;mircea_popescu;yea 1313992;1446484854;mircea_popescu;5 branch was... revolutionary. 1313993;1446484858;ascii_field;since when was this even considered acceptable by anybody with two braincells - for version n of a compiler to refuse to build something which n-epsilon did happily build ??! 1313994;1446484876;mircea_popescu;what, you think systemd happened in a vacuum ? 1313995;1446484927;ascii_field;it happened on that other planet where folks derp about 'desktop linux' and configure their boxes with mice etc 1313996;1446484952;mircea_popescu;the strange idea being that they want to "fix" the kernel 1313997;1446484997;mircea_popescu;!s Philip Mller 1313998;1446484998;assbot;0 results for 'Philip M�ller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Philip+M%FCller 1313999;1446485002;mircea_popescu;surprising. 1314000;1446485070;ascii_field;wai wat 1314001;1446485072;ascii_field;who 1314002;1446485087;mircea_popescu;https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/5050022?v=3 1314003;1446485087;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmxtD4 ) 1314004;1446485092;ascii_field;btw, 1314005;1446485093;ascii_field;http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/phoronix-test-suite/819180-gnupg-update-needed-build-failure-with-gcc 1314006;1446485095;assbot;gnupg Update Needed (Build Failure with GCC) - Phoronix Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmxrLt ) 1314007;1446485095;ascii_field;^ it 1314008;1446485108;ascii_field;gotta love it, 'update needed!!11111' 1314009;1446485124;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: i don't know this face 1314010;1446485145;mircea_popescu;what shall i answer to the who ? 1314011;1446485199;ascii_field;müller 1314012;1446485259;mircea_popescu;right but i mean you don't know the face you don't know the name, i guess "nobody" ? 1314013;1446485286;mircea_popescu;some overenthusiastic derp, next in line to be hearn/poettering/blabla ? 1314014;1446485313;ascii_field;evidently. 1314015;1446485333;ascii_field;funny how the mug shot looks quite like poettering's 1314016;1446485357;ascii_field;must be a 'secret handshake' of a kind. 1314017;1446485434;mircea_popescu;what, being german ? the new black ? 1314018;1446485443;mircea_popescu;9 in 10 immigrant moslems agree. 1314019;1446485455;ascii_field;l0lz 1314020;1446485500;mircea_popescu;they got a whole system down there i hear, hussies babymomma while derps fuck up linux and wash dishes in the buff. 1314021;1446485505;mircea_popescu;"the nordic system" 1314022;1446485538;ascii_field;how do we say 'la illah ila allah muhammad rasul allah' in de ? 1314023;1446485564;ascii_field;the no-dick system 1314024;1446485594;mircea_popescu;hahahaa apt! 1314025;1446485631;mircea_popescu;up there they got dat nodick system yo! 1314026;1446486966;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41041 @ 0.00055148 = 22.6333 BTC [+] {4} 1314027;1446487313;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314028;1446487330;ascii_field;mircea_popescu et al: https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/72087/the-shade-encryptor-a-double-threat << example of ransomware written by folks who aren't retarded 1314029;1446487335;assbot;The Shade Encryptor: a Double Threat - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6gBxz ) 1314030;1446487363;ascii_field;(or, at least, palpably ~less~ retarded than earlier example) 1314031;1446487410;thestringpuller;ascii_field: My Russian piano teacher enjoys your writing. 1314032;1446487423;ascii_field;l0lwut 1314033;1446487453;thestringpuller;i printed off your best bash's and showed them to him, and he was quite amused 1314034;1446487462;thestringpuller;and he asked, "Is he Russian?" 1314035;1446487482;ascii_field;which would these be 1314036;1446487607;thestringpuller;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=433 << that was one of them 1314037;1446487754;thestringpuller;i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now." 1314038;1446487788;ascii_field;!b 1 1314039;1446487789;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1P2QATT.txt ) 1314040;1446488100;ascii_field;https://securelist.com/blog/research/71371/teslacrypt-2-0-disguised-as-cryptowall << while this is a typical tard: 1314041;1446488107;assbot;TeslaCrypt 2.0 disguised as CryptoWall - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1iyi1m9 ) 1314042;1446488135;ascii_field;'The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key... In spite of the scary stories about RSA-2048 shown to victims, this encryption algorithm is not used by the malware in any form... The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key.' 1314043;1446488159;ascii_field;oops 1314044;1446488172;ascii_field;last quote was, rather, 1314045;1446488174;ascii_field;'C&C servers are located on the Tor network; the malware communicates with the C&Cs via public tor2web services.' 1314046;1446488212;ascii_field;and even 'Versions 0.2.5 – 0.3.x saved the decryption key (with other data) in their own service file, key.dat. The area containing the key was zeroed out in the file only after completing encryption, making it possible to save the key by interrupting the encryptor’s operation (e.g., by turning off the computer). After this, the key could be extracted from key.dat and used to decrypt all files.' 1314047;1446488523;ascii_field;in other nyooz, 1314048;1446488525;ascii_field;https://threatpost.com/xen-patches-7-year-old-vm-escape-hypervisor-vulnerability/115206 1314049;1446488527;assbot;Xen Patches VM Escape Vulnerability | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6ibiT ) 1314050;1446488601;ascii_field;what, the... 5th? FULL motherfucking vm escape this year ?? 1314051;1446488613;ascii_field;and these are just the burned ones. 1314052;1446488620;deedbot-;[Trilema] How is it the end ? - http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/ 1314053;1446488788;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: 'Worse, cynicism and aspirational branding aren't two opposite ends of a pole, they form a cycle: the chasm between your cynical view of real life and the perfect definition of the aspirational images in ads makes you even more cynical towards real life; which drives you further into the safety of branding. Which is why you drink.' << y'know, i'd appreciate tlp moar if he were not talking, in every odd 1314054;1446488788;ascii_field;paragraph, to some demented mutants who i neither ever were nor ever met nor ever expect to meet 1314055;1446488806;mircea_popescu;right. 1314056;1446488840;ascii_field;i will admit, i would never even have known wtf is a 'patek philip' if not for tlp... 1314057;1446488856;mircea_popescu;im trying, but he's not easily digestible. 1314058;1446488876;mircea_popescu;one major problem is that he has some major fuctardry embedded. another one is that he insists in using shitty references. 1314059;1446488887;mircea_popescu;yet another is the discoursive style - it's as if he never actually went to school. 1314060;1446488891;mircea_popescu;which i guess he didn't, us college. 1314061;1446488905;ascii_field;he assumes that (what he passes off as - i cannot compare it with any objective reality that i can access) usa 'pop culture' is a thing 1314062;1446488914;ascii_field;a thing in the objective sense 1314063;1446488956;mircea_popescu;myeah. disentangling this dead dependency is, i will want to point out, just as much a cognitive nightmare as fixing shit to compile with inane gcc or w/e 1314064;1446488980;*;ascii_field can see it 1314065;1446489000;mircea_popescu;btw : my first impulse when you made that quote was omfg i left it out of my last article, it should be in there! mad chase ensues to find it in source material, by the time i have contextualizatio0n ready i know where it should be in my article 1314066;1446489003;mircea_popescu;lo and behold it is! 1314067;1446489010;mircea_popescu;self-suckerpunch 1314068;1446489011;ascii_field;l0lz 1314069;1446489047;mircea_popescu;it's not even a problem of references per se, is the fucking issue. "don draper", big fucking deal. 1314070;1446489068;mircea_popescu;but when i use throwaways i use them on the basis of something, whereas with him that something's not actually fully formed behind the throwaways 1314071;1446489098;mircea_popescu;the reason you can't translate trilema from romanian to english IS NOT that you can't move the references. but he doesn't offer much in the way of this benefit. 1314072;1446489125;ascii_field;reading tlp 'the aspirational images in ads makes you even more xxxxxxxx' feels quite like martian telling me 'your tentacles ache every day, which drives you to drink' 1314073;1446489133;ascii_field;i don't have tentacles. really. 1314074;1446489138;mircea_popescu;makes shit like "Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything. "Well, science says you lose the ability to learn languages as you get older." Oh, did NPR just interview TED? Dummies in other countries and dummies in t 1314075;1446489138;mircea_popescu;he CIA learn as adults, are they all using different science? An American describes another American who is fluent in French as "oh my God, he's so smart, he speaks French and everything" but this statement is easily unmasked as a defense by getting him to describe a Frenchman who speaks English: "well, they all speak English over there." The bilingualism is robbed of the "intelligence" signification because it's see 1314076;1446489139;mircea_popescu;n as customary.... who they are. America is a branded-identity nation, which means hearing yourself speak in not-your accent, with not-your vocabulary sounds very not-you, which is why when an American tries to speak French he feels self-conscious, but the Frenchman hearing it feels you aren't even trying. He'd be wrong, you are trying: trying not to become French." 1314077;1446489144;mircea_popescu;even more fucking insulting 1314078;1446489149;mircea_popescu;TU QUOQUE, MOTHERFUCKER! 1314079;1446489170;mircea_popescu;!up ascii_field 1314080;1446489201;ascii_field;actually, here he describes something vaguely real: 1314081;1446489216;*;ascii_field sees no end of civilians derping at him re 'languages omfg111!!111' 1314082;1446489226;mircea_popescu;of course it's real 1314083;1446489232;mircea_popescu;the problem is he isn't fucking applying it to himself! 1314084;1446489239;ascii_field;'holy fuck, you speak language!' 1314085;1446489535;phf;"he knows english better then any american i know" well, that says something about ~americans you know~ 1314086;1446489700;mircea_popescu;word. 1314087;1446490382;ascii_field;http://i.imgur.com/zTyfHGs.jpg 1314088;1446490382;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1N9Lw5W ) 1314089;1446490420;mircea_popescu;where's the butt! 1314090;1446490427;ascii_field;a chick's, i'm told 1314091;1446490431;ascii_field;and is that piss on the front ? 1314092;1446490449;ascii_field;(typical failure mode of a chinese office chair - converts to stake.) 1314093;1446490532;ascii_field;http://business.asiaone.com/news/woman-badly-injured-exploding-computer-chair << not this one, but apparently ~another~ similar breakage 1314094;1446490533;assbot;Woman badly injured by exploding computer chair, News, News, AsiaOne Business News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2mOL4 ) 1314095;1446490786;fluffypony;https://www.etsy.com/listing/183254040/office-hijinks-award-ribbon-outstanding 1314096;1446490788;assbot;Office Hijinks Award Ribbon: Outstanding by PositiveCynic on Etsy ... ( http://bit.ly/1N9NrYg ) 1314097;1446490789;fluffypony;that is awesome 1314098;1446490795;phf;fuck this i'm moving tostanding desk 1314099;1446490847;kakobrekla;or get a decent chair? 1314100;1446491001;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314101;1446491017;ascii_field;kakobrekla: 'decent' is what? an old cable spool ? 1314102;1446491088;mircea_popescu;lubed. 1314103;1446491132;ascii_field;unrelatedly, 1314104;1446491141;ascii_field;does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ? 1314105;1446491142;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NN0yBr ) 1314106;1446491147;ascii_field;'network error' 1314107;1446491154;mircea_popescu;tbh i have no idea how these accidents are supposed to occur - every air cusjopm i ever saw had this 2mm steel plate protecting the butthole. 1314108;1446491165;mircea_popescu;supposedly the failing chamber pierced that ? with what. 1314109;1446491174;ascii_field;the piston. 1314110;1446491182;mircea_popescu;not enough pressure, plox to math it 1314111;1446491185;ascii_field;(plastic piston-head) 1314112;1446491204;ascii_field;did math it. it is vaguely possible ~if and only if~ the user drops into the chair 1314113;1446491210;ascii_field;from a metre or so up 1314114;1446491220;mircea_popescu;wellookthen 1314115;1446491243;mircea_popescu;ascii_field downloaded/saved. ff 20.0 1314116;1446491248;ascii_field;hm. 1314117;1446491279;mircea_popescu;maybe if the piston was tungsten tipped or some nutty shit. 1314118;1446491293;ascii_field;steel pistonrod, plastic head. 1314119;1446491300;ascii_field;no buttplate. 1314120;1446491337;mircea_popescu;i just looked, it's there. 1314121;1446491351;ascii_field;hm. 1314122;1446491363;kakobrekla;omg chair progress 1314123;1446491910;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00054288 = 12.4862 BTC [-] {4} 1314124;1446492991;thestringpuller;;;google robot rock 1314125;1446492992;gribble;Daft Punk - Robot Rock - YouTube: ; Daft Punk - Robot Rock (Official audio) - YouTube: ; Robot Rock (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 1314126;1446494082;ben_vulpes;entrance fee to casita vulpes has evolved into "hot meal, diapers, and a bottle of moet" 1314127;1446494106;mircea_popescu;lmao 1314128;1446494118;mircea_popescu;why moet ? 1314129;1446494140;ben_vulpes;and yeah moet schmoet, but i want to *see* my friends 1314130;1446494159;mircea_popescu;in other news, "There are, in fact, fairy tales about women with agency, and your article would have been even stronger if you knew them (but it's understandable that you don't). "The Girl Without Hands" for one, and a fairy tale retelling of the Psyche and Eros legend, "East of the Sun and West of the Moon". (The retelling is better than the Greek legend, where Psyche is deus ex machina'd at the end. She does at least 1314131;1446494159;mircea_popescu; make choices and take risks along the way, though.) There are also loads of Native American fairy tales with women who have agency." 1314132;1446494172;mircea_popescu;god damned it... "this is better than the greek myth because i like it more" 1314133;1446494182;mircea_popescu;you fail at comprehending wtf anything is, anon derpy female comentator on tlp site. 1314134;1446494202;ben_vulpes;i am also going to have to redo al of my keybindings for single handed use 1314135;1446494215;ben_vulpes;all* 1314136;1446494229;mircea_popescu;and psyche is supposed to be a fucking object. that is THE POINT of that particular story (fuck you myth legend bs words you don't even comprehend. story is good enough for pedestrians). 1314137;1446494245;mircea_popescu;and yes it's a pity idiots don't know greek. how about penelope, not enough agency ? 1314138;1446494263;mircea_popescu;how about fucking athena, to this day the avatar of agency - stupid bitch came out of her father's head pointy end first 1314139;1446494271;mircea_popescu;like to this day comes out of my fucking head. 1314140;1446494309;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes not that i imagine i can keep up with the vulpes, but - i ok'd remodelling of a bathroom. in wax. 1314141;1446494322;ben_vulpes;wax?! 1314142;1446494324;mircea_popescu;yes. 1314143;1446494340;ben_vulpes;plz fosr to splain, boss 1314144;1446494355;mircea_popescu;for the wall to be covered in wax drip so you can attach candles to it so they drip in the bath! 1314145;1446494365;mircea_popescu;and stubs on the faucets and whatnot. 1314146;1446494375;ben_vulpes;aha 1314147;1446494397;ben_vulpes;notbad dot urmom 1314148;1446494406;mircea_popescu;mymom was never this cool. 1314149;1446494441;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314037 << epic 1314150;1446494441;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 18:09:14; thestringpuller: i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now." 1314151;1446494802;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b36 1314152;1446494889;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << congirmed. 1314153;1446494889;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ? 1314154;1446494915;ben_vulpes;39.0.3 1314155;1446494952;mircea_popescu;!up asoltys 1314156;1446494986;ben_vulpes;in other news, america has retardified even midwives 1314157;1446495030;ben_vulpes;"is my child at risk? 1314158;1446495044;ben_vulpes; "i uh well YES" 1314159;1446495048;ben_vulpes;"how?" 1314160;1446495061;ben_vulpes;"the doula will tell you more" /scoot 1314161;1446495080;ben_vulpes;women's spaces. 1314162;1446495098;ben_vulpes;lovely feels, no rigor or discipline. 1314163;1446495106;mircea_popescu;at risk of what ? 1314164;1446495151;ben_vulpes;well nothing specific you see just uh statistics that she couldnt understand much less explain. 1314165;1446495177;mircea_popescu;your kid is at risk of nothing speciffic ? 1314166;1446495181;mircea_popescu;what is this, oregon ? 1314167;1446495188;ben_vulpes;america. 1314168;1446495204;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58986 @ 0.00054035 = 31.8731 BTC [-] {3} 1314169;1446495214;ben_vulpes;hopitalcorp tmrceteras 1314170;1446495239;mircea_popescu;i'm sure it'll be fine. 1314171;1446495285;mircea_popescu;http://disneyporn.com/category/disney-jasmine-porn/ << check out the awesome protective power of being the richest corporation in all of the us fictive economy. 1314172;1446495286;assbot;Disney Jasmine Porn - Disney cartoon porn ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2su7H ) 1314173;1446495297;ben_vulpes;of course it will. she was just flailing in the presence of apparently the first rigid cock she'd seen in a decade. 1314174;1446495300;mircea_popescu;i gotta host with whoever's hosting these dudes. 1314175;1446495373;mircea_popescu;leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ? 1314176;1446495376;ben_vulpes;in other nyooz, i learned that the confederated tribes of the grande rhonde very intentionally do not meet curation standards or participate in the repatriation scemes. 1314177;1446495472;ben_vulpes; /they/ regularly circulate ancestors about the tribe. 1314178;1446495516;mircea_popescu;i have no idea what any of that is ? 1314179;1446495585;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314180;1446495587;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314152 << oh FORSUXXAKE 1314181;1446495587;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 20:08:09; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << congirmed. 1314182;1446495666;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: "curation standards" would be "lock all of your holy relics up in slidy climate controlled shelving units and never let anyone touch them" 1314183;1446495699;mircea_popescu;who is suxxake 1314184;1446495730;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: "repatriation schemes" would be "kiss the ring and the usg will pressure holders of your holy artifacts to return them" 1314185;1446495768;mircea_popescu;uh. 1314186;1446495790;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: confederated tribes of grande rhonde is a convenient political box for a myriad of small tribes along the length of the willamette and parts of the columbia. 1314187;1446495875;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15868 @ 0.00054144 = 8.5916 BTC [+] 1314188;1446496456;mircea_popescu;well... good for them then 1314189;1446496540;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/twilight-moms.jpg 1314190;1446496541;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RpWKXW ) 1314191;1446496617;mircea_popescu;"Deconstuctionists like to ask easy questions like, "why is a story for 15 year old girls so popular among middle aged women?" They asked this about Twilight, too, but it's not at all surprising that these books are popular among middle aged women who still secretly believe women are second behind men. Not in terms of theoretical potential, perhaps, but they've grown up in a world with enough experiences that they ca 1314192;1446496618;mircea_popescu;n't shake it. It's still a man's world. 1314193;1446496618;mircea_popescu;The real question is why it's popular among 15 year old girls? 15 year old girls should, in theory, have grown up without 1970s sexism. Schools are hypervigilant about fostering girls development, and there are enough female everythings that it's not remarkable that there are female anythings." 1314194;1446496641;mircea_popescu;heh, fucktarded douchery. soviet romania had female everythings, and they all beelined to home where they cooked for the family anyway. 1314195;1446496672;mircea_popescu;what, ustards are amazed that they applied the principles of 1950s soviet feminism, got the results of 1970s soviet society and WHOA WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED ?!?!?! 1314196;1446496679;mircea_popescu;im sure it was going to have been different that time. 1314197;1446496709;mircea_popescu;it.is.always.going.to.be.a.mans.world. 1314198;1446496725;mircea_popescu;now go out and make sure there's enough men, forget climate fucking change. 1314199;1446496814;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314175 << very favoured by malware artists for some reason 1314200;1446496814;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 20:16:13; mircea_popescu: leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ? 1314201;1446497414;thestringpuller;only retarded teeny bopper girls and 40 year old housewives actually take Hunger Games/Twilight seriously... 1314202;1446497627;trinque;"only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority 1314203;1446497797;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: http://www.grindwork.com/site/node/34 1314204;1446497799;assbot;Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGC9f ) 1314205;1446498116;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314206;1446498119;ascii_field;wtf am i looking at, ben_vulpes 1314207;1446498125;ben_vulpes;I DON'T KNOW EITHER 1314208;1446498143;ascii_field;l0l expertsystems are back!!11111 1314209;1446498149;ascii_field;or so claims the site. 1314210;1446498151;ben_vulpes;but it looks like some sort of prolog/cl-y saas thinger? 1314211;1446498165;ben_vulpes;well what is an expert system but a tidy formalization of bizlawgic? 1314212;1446498182;ascii_field;wtf with the stripped parens 1314213;1446498189;ben_vulpes;mhm 1314214;1446498194;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/attachment%20parenting.jpg 1314215;1446498195;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZKKMh ) 1314216;1446498199;ascii_field;'let's introduce inconsistency!!! customer will LOVE it' 1314217;1446498210;ascii_field;the moar arbitrary the better! 1314218;1446498224;ben_vulpes;oh come now, didn't macsyma do the same thing? 1314219;1446498277;ben_vulpes;maxima, perhaps. 1314220;1446498296;ben_vulpes;o hey same diff 1314221;1446498305;ascii_field;maxima has a matlabesque infix syntax iirc 1314222;1446498305;ben_vulpes;DERP OF COURSE those names. 1314223;1446498362;thestringpuller;trinque: quite depressing how the majority has the same mindset as the teeny boppers. 1314224;1446498393;thestringpuller;interestingly, the goths burned down a hot topic to get rid of the teeny boppers in south park, but 3 more popped up. 1314225;1446498529;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/msjamielynne << remarkably, chick is still there a few years later doing the exact same thing. 1314226;1446498530;assbot;Jamie Lynne Grumet (@MsJamieLynne) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZMo0b ) 1314227;1446498538;mircea_popescu;if only men had the unyielding dedication of cockroaches. 1314228;1446498562;ascii_field;http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.tar.gz.sig doesn't load in any version of 'chrome' or 'chromium' also. 1314229;1446498563;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZMvcm ) 1314230;1446498565;ascii_field;wtf ?? 1314231;1446498610;ascii_field;and http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.tar DOWNLOADS MOTHERFUCKING PARTIALLY 1314232;1446498611;assbot;404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZMJA6 ) 1314233;1446498621;ascii_field;.tar.gz that is 1314234;1446498634;mircea_popescu;your lowbrowsers are too new. 1314235;1446498635;ascii_field;on ALL graphical www browsers i tested 1314236;1446498671;mircea_popescu;it probably conflicts with unicode magic packets. 1314237;1446498864;thestringpuller;Samuel: "mommy why can't humans work together like ants?" - good question. << the actual fuck? 1314238;1446498883;thestringpuller;aside from humans not being eusocial.... 1314239;1446498908;mircea_popescu;so she's raising a future cuckold, good for her. 1314240;1446498945;mircea_popescu;hopefully she leaves him money, it's a lot better when the cuck also "owns" the place 1314241;1446499003;lobbes;ascii_field: I can confirm the same behavior on my graphical winblowz browsers (Firefox, Chrome). On Firefox, I get additional message of 'MrTAHIXE.sig.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.' 1314242;1446499054;mircea_popescu;this is pretty weird, in fairness. 1314243;1446499066;lobbes;can download just fine using 'wget' via my debian server. very odd 1314244;1446499066;kakobrekla;lol. try ie? 1314245;1446499081;thestringpuller;!b 1 1314246;1446499085;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3VE1HHM.txt ) 1314247;1446499085;ascii_field;;;later tell mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz 1314248;1446499085;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1314249;1446499108;ascii_field;lobbes: wget works fine 1314250;1446499120;lobbes;kakobrekla: funny enough, IE can download it 1314251;1446499129;kakobrekla;ms ftw!! 1314252;1446499133;lobbes;lol 1314253;1446499145;ascii_field;lobbes: didja diff it with the wget'ed copy ? 1314254;1446499152;ascii_field;and actually gpg --verify ... ? 1314255;1446499165;lobbes;haven't tried verifying anything yet 1314256;1446499291;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00053998 = 10.9616 BTC [-] {3} 1314257;1446499329;mircea_popescu;"Also, who gives a shit about what you buy? Everyone buys all the same things all the time; that's why those items are always stocked. You're not special. Nobody cares." 1314258;1446499330;BingoBoingo;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313926 << A lot of 'Muricans develop an aversion to a certain kind of comedian who does the exagerated voice thing. Prolly blame Pualy Shore et al. 1314259;1446499330;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 14:52:37; mircea_popescu: inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny 1314260;1446499341;ben_vulpes;and you do? 1314261;1446499374;ben_vulpes;the "and i'm with my me" bit was kinda chortleworthy but it was written by snl staff. 1314262;1446499426;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo she was brought to me as an offering, she is now a stock character for 1970s/1980s born too ugly to be a slut too lazy to cheerlead i know i wanna-be a writer i-m-going-to-new-york to be discovered if it worked for horseface whatshername why not me!" 1314263;1446499469;BingoBoingo;A lot of those. 1314264;1446499480;mircea_popescu;yeah but we'll just call all of them kristen wiig 1314265;1446499504;mircea_popescu;just like we call "academic" "cultured" "feminists" luce. 1314266;1446499526;mircea_popescu;i should probably write this bestiary sometime. 1314267;1446499788;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2014#668309 << dafuq does DoE have to do with revenue, hm? 1314268;1446499788;assbot;Logged on 09-05-2014 20:30:36; bitcoinpete: hashfast vp of engineering: Amy most recently came from Engine Yard, where in less than two years she went from Senior Developer to Director of Engineering. She oversaw the development of the flagship product, EY Cloud, growing revenue by over 60% in one year. 1314269;1446500011;ben_vulpes;any time I see these "oversaw/responsible for revenue of blablablah" all sorts of alarms go off. 1314270;1446500267;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00054144 = 10.0979 BTC [+] 1314271;1446500379;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1314272;1446500380;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2014#846710 << root of trinary use in your vm, ascii_field? 1314273;1446500380;assbot;Logged on 27-09-2014 03:04:39; asciilifeform: i've argued in the past that you have to ditch... binary. if you want to be rid of the 'floating point' abomination. 1314274;1446500425;ben_vulpes;;;ticker 1314275;1446500427;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.01, Best ask: 362.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 362.0, 24 hour volume: 54872.8243685, 24 hour low: 324.6, 24 hour high: 361.89, 24 hour vwap: None 1314276;1446500433;lobbes;ascii_field: I *was* able to verify mpi-genesis.tar.gz.sig (downloaded from IE); yet to diff with wget version 1314277;1446500469;*;ben_vulpes would love to see them both verify and anything show up in the diff 1314278;1446500729;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1314279;1446500729;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2013#95569 << mircea_popescu, sauce? 1314280;1446500729;assbot;Logged on 21-06-2013 22:58:29; mircea_popescu: "The relationship between the fandom and the actual profession is always, absolutely always and without exception one of extraction. Specifically, resources are sucked out of the fandom for the benefit of the profession." 1314281;1446500736;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 363.0, vol: 39772.82719078 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 328.0, vol: 24781.05918 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 363.9, vol: 61930.32937046 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 406.03, vol: 10.57156055 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 367.964352, vol: 62242.05660000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 349.50003, vol: 221.85927038 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 334.742776, vol: 206.30220259 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1314282;1446500738;BingoBoingo;;;more 1314283;1446500739;gribble;average: 360.298770867 1314284;1446500780;thestringpuller;ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/ 1314285;1446500794;ben_vulpes;dang, thestringpuller. 1314286;1446501012;ben_vulpes;and an excellent re-read in the context of the catcode link 1314287;1446501718;mircea_popescu;!up tcrypt 1314288;1446501729;lobbes;ascii_field: I can now confirm that both verify, and the checksums match. odd indeed 1314289;1446501731;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes sling dope one 1314290;1446501748;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/ 1314291;1446501748;assbot;"You're the guy who wasn't good enough to sling dope." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KURshq ) 1314292;1446501931;mircea_popescu;oh tsp beat me to it! 1314293;1446501939;mircea_popescu;i think it might be his favourite trilema piece 1314294;1446502623;mircea_popescu;"Here are the seven most important sciences according to the NYT:; ; 1. Sociology; 2. Political science; 4. Climate science; 5. Science fiction; 7. NPR; ; 8. Law" 1314295;1446502645;btcdrak;read the last paragraph of mike's reply a year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jhzxq/linus_regrets_how_insults_damaged_the_linux/clbz87r 1314296;1446502646;assbot;mike_hearn comments on Linus regrets how insults damaged the Linux community and we can do better ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUUwKD ) 1314297;1446502714;ben_vulpes;wahaha mircea_popescu sauce for the nyt bit? 1314298;1446502743;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/05/5_signs_your_child_is_a_psycho.html 1314299;1446502745;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: 5 Signs Your Child Is a Psychopath, According To The NYT ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUUW3w ) 1314300;1446502796;mircea_popescu;btcdrak you don't understand etc 1314301;1446502816;btcdrak;"I think it's clear now that actually getting Bitcoin to the fabled seven transactions per second will be a lot of hard work, unless someone comes up with a new SatoshiDice like business model that results in huge demand for transactions. If things continue on their present path, scalability is really the least of our concerns - increasing usage is." 1314302;1446502824;btcdrak;-mike hearn 1314303;1446502937;mircea_popescu;my sarcasm! 1314304;1446503097;ben_vulpes;bitcoin is useless for most people, nyooz at !1eleven!!teen 1314305;1446503187;mircea_popescu;"In America, everything is a commodity, everything has a price. So when post-gold standard capitalism gets access to everything except the secret desires of women, it will necessarily create a mechanism to get them, too, i.e. some media to take the bullet as pervert so women can be free to talk in exchange for men quietly listening in. It took a decade but the system worked: Howard Stern was the inevitable synthesis of 1314306;1446503188;mircea_popescu; feminism and Reaganomics, which is a sentence you will never read anywhere else." 1314307;1446503189;mircea_popescu;holy shit. 1314308;1446503200;mircea_popescu;that is the best stern blurb i ever heard. 1314309;1446503474;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor 1314310;1446503476;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMP8Nu ) 1314311;1446503866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38610 @ 0.00055058 = 21.2579 BTC [+] {2} 1314312;1446504615;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314313;1446504640;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314309 << from xerox dorado..? 1314314;1446504640;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 22:31:14; mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor 1314315;1446505065;thestringpuller;TLP is awesome, but does anyone else find the google ads a bit obnoxious? 1314316;1446505129;mircea_popescu;!up RBLP 1314317;1446505138;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller you've not nullrouted google ads ? 1314318;1446505213;thestringpuller;not at work 1314319;1446505237;thestringpuller;at home, not even hulu can show me ads 1314320;1446505246;thestringpuller;courtesy of girlfriend 1314321;1446505431;ascii_field;thestringpuller: almost unreadable on pocket toys, tabletz, etc 1314322;1446505437;ascii_field;on account of the pestilential ads 1314323;1446505446;ascii_field;have to go find a real computer, yes 1314324;1446505596;jurov;which mpi.tar.gz misdownloads? the one on ml? 1314325;1446505779;jurov;http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html downloaded with firefox and verified okay 1314326;1446505780;assbot;[BTC-dev] MPI Genesis. (Possibly Off-Topic!) ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnNZnL ) 1314327;1446506161;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html << tlp goes to great lengths to justify to himself the fact that even though he'd love to, he doesn't get to fuck two women while they're sucking each other off. 1314328;1446506163;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMP8Nu ) 1314329;1446506213;mircea_popescu;this apparently HAS GOT TO be a lot more complexicated than "well... he never said "take your clothes off and mount her" to any woman" 1314330;1446506552;hanbot;deedbot- http://thewhet.net/han/mpifpc4_102015.txt.asc 1314331;1446506555;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1314332;1446507953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18268 @ 0.00055153 = 10.0754 BTC [+] 1314333;1446508778;phf;asciilifeform: did you see my message about leftover i18n stuff in mpi? 1314334;1446509760;asciilifeform;phf: yes! 1314335;1446509763;asciilifeform;indeed it is there 1314336;1446509774;asciilifeform;and there is a buncha rubbish/deadcode that needs to go, as well 1314337;1446509790;asciilifeform;perhaps more interesting is my discovery that... the thing breaks 'v' 1314338;1446509794;asciilifeform;(at least ~my~ 'v') 1314339;1446509830;asciilifeform;!rated phf 1314340;1446509830;assbot;You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper. 1314341;1446509857;shinohai;;;later tell mod6 Arch 64 is a go 1314342;1446509858;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1314343;1446509868;asciilifeform;!rate phf 2 ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even 1314344;1446509868;assbot;Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fe5f523b72c474cf 1314345;1446509913;asciilifeform;!v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.phf.2:d4a65b74f416edc4a69b3b1a3dcf57c1952b685ac3c2fb37aa438b8d96e53ea8 1314346;1446509913;assbot;Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even 1314347;1446510002;asciilifeform;;;later tell jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314325 << the issue is specifically with the items ~as found on my www hoster~ 1314348;1446510002;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 23:09:39; jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html downloaded with firefox and verified okay 1314349;1446510003;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1314350;1446510296;phf;oh, ty 1314351;1446510339;phf;yeah, the i18n stuff was preventing me from building it, but otherwise it works (with some extra modifications to get it running under clang/macsosx, but those are inconsequential) 1314352;1446510597;asciilifeform;i'd like to get it to a point where it builds without any blood sacrifices on all vaguely-posixy machines 1314353;1446511477;ag3nt_zer0;anyone around? 1314354;1446511530;ag3nt_zer0;oh ok... couldnt see the nickname list for a sec 1314355;1446511567;ag3nt_zer0;how's it goin out there? 1314356;1446512227;mircea_popescu;yea ? 1314357;1446512351;mod6;asciilifeform: mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz << sure, will look into it. thx! 1314358;1446512379;mod6; Arch 64 is a go << cool! thanks for testing. 1314359;1446512467;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140429 @ 0.00055348 = 77.7246 BTC [+] {11} 1314360;1446513003;shinohai;6.02214179 × 10^23 in teh Vatican: http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2015/11/a_mole_in_the_vatican_2_arrest.html 1314361;1446513003;assbot;A mole in the Vatican? 2 accused of leaking documents | NOLA.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sk7WWO ) 1314362;1446513003;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v! 1314363;1446513198;mircea_popescu;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Paul_Ryan_official_portrait.jpg << dear lord the degeneracy 1314364;1446513200;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sk8f3Q ) 1314365;1446513210;mircea_popescu;another decade or so the us congress will look just like nero's senate. 1314366;1446513828;mod6;ok i've resolved that issue asciilifeform, I'll test on it for a few days and probably post a new version this coming weekend. 1314367;1446513867;mod6;just so we're clear, this change makes it so "use Graph::Easy" is not required unless the 'g|graph' flag is passed. 1314368;1446514054;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00055662 = 8.7111 BTC [+] {4} 1314369;1446515033;mircea_popescu;from the tinfoil hat chronicles : 1314370;1446515042;mircea_popescu;"Tom Morello was born on May 30, 1964, in Harlem, New York to Ngethe Njoroge and Mary Morello. Njoroge was Kikuyu Kenyan and a Mau Mau guerrilla. Jomo Kenyatta, the revolutionary leader of the Mau Mau, was his uncle. Njoroge served as liberated Kenyas first ambassador to the U.N. In August 1963, Njoroge and Mary met at a pro democracy protest in Nairobi, Kenya. In November 1963 after discovering her pregnancy, Mary 1314371;1446515043;mircea_popescu;returned to the United States with Njoroge in toll, and married in New York City. 1314372;1446515043;mircea_popescu;Undoubtedly, Mary Morello similarly to Ann Dunham worked for either the U.S. State Department under Dean Rusk through the USAID student operations ran by Helms to infiltrate leftist Black African Liberation Movements to disrupt, recruit and inform. Ann Dunham was three months pregnant when she married Barack Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. While Obama Jr. was being conceived in 1960, Mary Morello was circulating in Nair 1314373;1446515045;mircea_popescu;obi, Kenya. Mary Morello had travelled to Kenya as well as Germany, Spain, Japan under a clandestine veil as an English language teacher between 1957 and 1963. 1314374;1446515048;mircea_popescu;After graduating from Libertyville High School, Tom Morello was the first student in Libertyvilles history to be admitted to Harvard University. Yet when he graduated with a degree in political science, Tom Morello asserts that he was unemployable. He then turned up in Hollywood as an exotic male stripper. 1314375;1446515052;mircea_popescu;Ordinarily thats the way the story is suppose to end, two small town boys from Middle America makes good. It was just faith that two young white independent American females just happened to be in the right place and right time [one in the middle of the East Africa] by chance meet two centrally placed Black African Liberation figures key to the interests of British and U.S. Foreign Policy. 1314376;1446515059;mircea_popescu;One entangles the nephew of one of the most important and powerful Black Nationalist political figures of the 20th Century, Jomo Kenyatta, and the other entangles a key tribal rival to Kenyatta in love child triangles just at the moment of the critical end to a long bloody struggle for Kenyan independence from white colonial rule." 1314377;1446515547;mircea_popescu;in other news : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/harvard%20cheating%20exam.jpg no fucking wonder they're so inept. THIS is what they do. roughly the equivalent of a stargazing army staff. 1314378;1446515548;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIIngY ) 1314379;1446515584;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-08-2015#1247708 <<< the scars resultant. 1314380;1446515584;assbot;Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated. 1314381;1446515634;mircea_popescu;political science is almost like finance now. great victory for the scientific! 1314382;1446515677;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2015/11/000webhost-penetrated-13-million-plaintext-passwords-compromised/#comment-72691 1314383;1446515678;assbot;000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1XKLrxc ) 1314384;1446515818;BingoBoingo;Random companies now feel like they gotta apologize in qntra comments nao 1314385;1446516023;*;mircea_popescu polishes the hammer 1314386;1446516153;*;mircea_popescu proceeds to re-read the "sociological order book" thing. yup, makes perfect sense. cryptography, who needs it when they've got "best business practices" and pr and whatnot. mainstream media! valuable knowledge and know-how! etc! 1314387;1446516228;BingoBoingo;Derps gotta herp while the Hurping is hot 1314388;1446516565;mircea_popescu;in other old news, https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/former-congressional-aide-accused-of-drugging-and-sexually-assaulting-women/2012/08/31/6cea9b34-f311-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_story.html 1314389;1446516567;assbot;Former congressional aide accused of drugging and sexually assaulting women - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJixM ) 1314390;1446516584;mircea_popescu;twist : he's black. 1314391;1446516652;mircea_popescu;(d, obv.) 1314392;1446516801;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314362 << something in the mpi pile of shit breaks the regex 1314393;1446516801;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v! 1314394;1446516820;mircea_popescu;ugh 1314395;1446516852;asciilifeform;i suspect a stray 8th bit somewhere 1314396;1446516871;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314360 << do they have own jail ? 1314397;1446516871;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; shinohai: 6.02214179 × 10^23 in teh Vatican: http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2015/11/a_mole_in_the_vatican_2_arrest.html 1314398;1446516878;asciilifeform;or subcontract to italy 1314399;1446516913;asciilifeform;from fishwrap linked earlier, https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/one-time-nsa-division-chief-to-plead-guilty-in-young-sons-death-court-files-show/2015/11/02/e82f6c70-81a2-11e5-a7ca-6ab6ec20f839_story.html 1314400;1446516914;assbot;One-time NSA division chief to plead guilty in young son’s death, court files show - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJxc9 ) 1314401;1446516918;asciilifeform;^ anyone recall this? 1314402;1446516939;asciilifeform;(it came up before, long ago) 1314403;1446517035;asciilifeform;https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/severance-guilty-in-three-high-profile-killings-in-alexandria/2015/11/02/325cafb6-79b4-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html << from same. also mega-l0l 1314404;1446517036;assbot;Severance guilty in three high-profile killings in Alexandria - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJCNd ) 1314405;1446517056;asciilifeform;'An eccentric history buff was found guilty Monday of killing three prominent Alexandria residents over the course of a decade..... Prosecutors said he was motivated by bitterness over a child custody battle that he lost and a general hatred of Alexandrias elite..' 1314406;1446517089;asciilifeform;mug shot suggests that they caught... rasputin ? 1314407;1446517107;mircea_popescu;lmao 1314408;1446517142;asciilifeform;earlier, 'The case against Charles Severance, who turned 55 last month in the Fairfax County jail, is a circumstantial one, predicated largely on Severances voluminous writings and ballistics evidence that isnt as conclusive as prosecutors might like.' 1314409;1446517175;mircea_popescu;awww, nsa division head fell into the "find me five lines and i'll hang him" trap ? 1314410;1446517182;asciilifeform;how else. 1314411;1446517202;mircea_popescu;listen up, remaining ones... you won't know which of you isn't on my books already. but you know YOU aren't, and now you know it'll mean your ass. 1314412;1446517214;mircea_popescu;get with the program, there's no prizes for being the last traitor of a dying state. 1314413;1446517247;asciilifeform;somewhere a kryuchkov is nervously fondling his luger 1314414;1446517364;asciilifeform;'Their most convincing piece of evidence might be Severances writings, seized from his car and through various electronic means.' 1314415;1446517449;mircea_popescu;im sure they're very convincing. 1314416;1446517558;asciilifeform;(elsewhere) 'Severance was arrested in March 2014 over the murders after he sought asylum at the Russian Embassy in D.C. He was reportedly 'sent away' from the embassy and told he was an 'unwanted guest'.' 1314417;1446517581;mircea_popescu;almost qntrable. 1314418;1446517692;asciilifeform;the 'damning writings' themselves are - unsurprisingly - not public anywhere, afaik. 1314419;1446517712;mircea_popescu;but they are convincing! 1314420;1446517744;asciilifeform;'a prosecutor told a jury Wednesday. The killings, carried out over roughly a decade, were nothing short of political assassinations. Introduce murder into a safe and secure neighborhood, Alexandria Assistant Commonwealths Attorney David Lord quoted from Severances writings.' 1314421;1446517818;asciilifeform;'A former Virginia political candidate was convicted on Monday of three murders over an 11-year span that fed fears of a serial killer in the U.S. capital area.' 1314422;1446517823;asciilifeform;candidate, lol 1314423;1446517838;asciilifeform;'...ran for mayor and Congress. He sometimes wore a tricorn hat, was known for ranting in public and once threw a punch at the organizer of a mayoral debate.' 1314424;1446517856;asciilifeform;(paging emperor norton!) 1314425;1446517974;BingoBoingo; almost qntrable. << Someone give it the right treatment it could be. 1314426;1446518018;mod6;asciilifeform: looks like my version handled it ok? http://dpaste.com/38PTAHG.txt 1314427;1446518018;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XKOZzz ) 1314428;1446518030;mircea_popescu;wird. 1314429;1446518047;asciilifeform;'Lord [prosecutor] also said he believed that Severance did not leave forensic evidence at the scene of any of the killings because he wore gloves. He pointed out that ballistics experts said it was exceedingly rare for a killing to be carried out with the type of .22-caliber ammunition used in each case and added that Severance displayed guilty behavior by fleeing to the Russian Embassy in the District after police initially 1314430;1446518047;asciilifeform;contacted him about Lodato's killing.' 1314431;1446518066;asciilifeform;mod6: odd! 1314432;1446518121;asciilifeform;and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. 1314433;1446518127;asciilifeform;last i saw. 1314434;1446518172;asciilifeform;jury was either a) not told this b) knew but was Officially ordered to disregard ? 1314435;1446518173;BingoBoingo; and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. << Pehaps he had the fancy copper plate stuff. 1314436;1446518180;mod6;oh, i did notice that your vpatch does have dates in it though. you probably just had an older version of vdiff? 1314437;1446518196;asciilifeform;mod6: hm it appears so. 1314438;1446518213;mod6;mine still didn't seem to care, but maybe try yours without ts's? 1314439;1446518226;asciilifeform;mod6: the price i pay for having half-finished crud lying around 1314440;1446518234;mircea_popescu;i still dunno why it would have died 1314441;1446518235;mod6;i hear ya :] 1314442;1446518238;mircea_popescu;and perhaps it should be fuzzed 1314443;1446518269;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye 1314444;1446518295;mircea_popescu;a 1314445;1446518302;mircea_popescu;a ok this isn't his 1314446;1446518447;asciilifeform;'In another passage he writes, Ive been nudging and trolling for over a decade and nobody has noticed. Violence wins. Assassinate because it is in the best interest of the child.' 1314447;1446518464;asciilifeform;'Defense lawyers for Charles Severance, 54, of Ashburn, had asked the judge to bar prosecutors from using the writing as evidence out of concern that his inflammatory message would unfairly rile up a jury against him.' 1314448;1446518497;asciilifeform;( http://valawyersweekly.com/2015/06/25/judge-prosecutors-can-show-jurors-severances-writings ) 1314449;1446518673;ben_vulpes;regex is black fucking magic 1314450;1446518777;asciilifeform;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3182471178876789@naggum.net.html << see also 1314451;1446518778;assbot;Re: Can I use Lisp? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIL6ah ) 1314452;1446518822;asciilifeform;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3241270848355795@naggum.no.html << same re: perl. 1314453;1446518823;assbot;Re: Is there a useful distinction between "programming" and "scripting" languages? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIL95Y ) 1314454;1446518868;asciilifeform;naggum, of course, did not touch upon the real root of the disease 1314455;1446518873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00055009 = 13.4222 BTC [-] {2} 1314456;1446518887;asciilifeform;which is that the shrinkage of design space led us into a place where often one MUST use a regexp or a similarly braindamaged thing 1314457;1446518894;asciilifeform;because the alternative is ????????? 1314458;1446518941;mircea_popescu;in seeminglyt unrelated news, 1314459;1446518942;mircea_popescu;"Before, the experience of addiction was entirely subjective, is it messing up your life? Now, it's been objectified, the subject's relationship with the drug is is no longer relevant, it is the fact of the drug that is relevant. The obvious example of this sleight of hand is that there's alcohol use and alcohol abuse, but there's no such category as cocaine use, even though the vast majority of its ingestion has nothi 1314460;1446518942;mircea_popescu;ng to do with addiction. The reinforcement is from the outside to comply with this idiocy: say you party down one weekend, then a random drug test at work, oops! So two things can happen, Guess What Happens Next: you could tell the truth that the coke was on her ass and how could you not? doesn't make you a bad person; or pretend/admit you're an addict and agree to go to rehab. So it's unanimous? You keep your job 1314461;1446518943;mircea_popescu; at McDonalds and the system gets another data point confirming it is right. I hope the parallel between this and anything written by Solzhenitsyn is immediately obvious, if not, read anything by Solzhenitsyn. The Matrix doesn't need you, but it will offer you a free pass if you help get the other batteries in line." 1314462;1446518948;asciilifeform;pushing around huge fucking tanks of unstructured text sludge that has to be picked apart by machine every single fucking time you want to do anything - leads to regexp. 1314463;1446518963;ben_vulpes;punkman: https://github.com/pgbovine/CDE/blob/master/scripts/package_completer.py#L39 1314464;1446518964;assbot;CDE/package_completer.py at master · pgbovine/CDE · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1XKQqOl ) 1314465;1446518980;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and ironically the tanks of sludge got to be in the first place because "people want to read the code". 1314466;1446518990;asciilifeform;aha. 1314467;1446519012;asciilifeform;but also because 'why not have diff output a sexpr?' 'ewwwww parens omfg!1111111' 1314468;1446519025;mircea_popescu;romney should have run on a platform of "there may be only one compiler and one namespace per generation and whoever breaks it we'll sell to ethiopian slavers" 1314469;1446519051;mircea_popescu;forget "fiscal conservative" bs. information conservative. 1314470;1446519064;asciilifeform;if it's one where diff and every single fucking thing under the sun doesn't operate on sexprs or something isomorphic - we get exactly to the same place we are now. 1314471;1446519081;mircea_popescu;no, because no "autoconf" nor "make" bs 1314472;1446519102;asciilifeform;we are dealing with a very basic mathematical issue 1314473;1446519104;mircea_popescu;and it wouldn't be sexprs it'd be asts 1314474;1446519109;asciilifeform;no different from the african huts that won't stand up 1314475;1446519125;asciilifeform;sexpr is merely one way to represent an unambiguously-parseable ast 1314476;1446519129;mircea_popescu;aha. 1314477;1446519133;asciilifeform;which is why i said 'or isomorphic' 1314478;1446519136;mircea_popescu;but focusing on the format is pointless. 1314479;1446519140;mircea_popescu;right 1314480;1446519156;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: i am in the habit of sending various relatives snippets to paste into sbcl and limited instructions on what to do 1314481;1446519181;ben_vulpes;(re parens) 1314482;1446519190;asciilifeform;and...? 1314483;1446519193;ben_vulpes;works! 1314484;1446519195;mircea_popescu;we now know enough - through our own work of digging and torture-extracted confessions, no less - to estimate that a large if not the largest pillar of the insanity was rms&co misguided quest to protect "but people want to read the code". 1314485;1446519213;ben_vulpes;these are molecular researchy folks and the like 1314486;1446519230;mircea_popescu;io hope you're sending them as docx 1314487;1446519240;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: how's that 1314488;1446519242;asciilifeform;? 1314489;1446519253;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform recall the "can't expose ast" drama ? 1314490;1446519262;asciilifeform;aha 1314491;1446519269;ben_vulpes;i don't, praytell? 1314492;1446519286;asciilifeform;the thing he did is called (at least by ilkka kokkarinen, who introduced me to the concept), 1314493;1446519290;asciilifeform;'unprincipled exception' 1314494;1446519321;asciilifeform;'yes, everyone can read the code!' 'but now we gotta make it so that we aren't working for microshit for free because no one can actually make'em obey gpl' 1314495;1446519321;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes recent rms/everyone else fallout over whether llvm is good or not and gcc should or shouyld not expose the ast 1314496;1446519332;mircea_popescu;quite. 1314497;1446519335;asciilifeform;so we got obfuscatory obscurantist skulduggery. 1314498;1446519352;mircea_popescu;they were wrong btw. should have worked for ms for free. 1314499;1446519357;ben_vulpes;"In all likelihood, there was no 1314500;1446519357;ben_vulpes; change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a 1314501;1446519358;ben_vulpes; certain class of people." 1314502;1446519358;mircea_popescu;just like bitcoin works for obama for frere 1314503;1446519361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42340 @ 0.00054942 = 23.2624 BTC [-] {2} 1314504;1446519362;ben_vulpes;ahahahaha 1314505;1446519368;ben_vulpes;or stan works for tmsr~ for free 1314506;1446519369;mircea_popescu;as in "i'll slit your throat and rape your sluts" free 1314507;1446519369;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is how we got apple. 1314508;1446519375;asciilifeform;(the current, post-nextstep apple) 1314509;1446519392;mircea_popescu;i disagree. 1314510;1446519427;mircea_popescu;we would have gotten apple no matter what, even withoujt computing. apple is what happens when an ambitious young man gets lucky with the media buys early and then sticks to it. 1314511;1446519440;asciilifeform;everything in an apple product that actually fuking WORKS, silently, tirelessly, without fail, without generating 'work' for armies of vermin - was written by folks who never dreamed that it would end up in a commercial unix 1314512;1446519447;mircea_popescu;(it's a testament to the idiocy of america : you can FORCE them into liking anything.) 1314513;1446519449;asciilifeform;(because they were dim, yes) 1314514;1446519478;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: that's how we got the earlier apple. 1314515;1446519492;asciilifeform;i'm speaking of the present-day one, which destroyed every other commercial unix house 1314516;1446519511;asciilifeform;at least partly because it never had to pay for what became the os. 1314517;1446519524;mircea_popescu;the "commercial unix houses" were the happy marriage of imbeciles to eighteen-abortions whores. 1314518;1446519537;asciilifeform;sun was a legit thing for a spell 1314519;1446519543;mircea_popescu;fucking medieval shogun'd have murdered them. 1314520;1446519543;asciilifeform;(through 1995 or so) 1314521;1446519553;asciilifeform;even hp 1314522;1446519563;mircea_popescu;hp SELECTED fiorina. 1314523;1446519565;mircea_popescu;ye ken ? 1314524;1446519580;*;asciilifeform once owned a massive 'tempest'-shielded pa-risc monstrosity 1314525;1446519583;mircea_popescu;here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." " 1314526;1446519611;mircea_popescu;funnily, the DO NOT apply the same principle to "climate data". 1314527;1446520134;ben_vulpes;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/28/herpes-simplex-virus-cold-sores-who << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-06-2015#1167583 1314528;1446520136;assbot;Herpes affects two-thirds of people under 50, WHO says | World news | The Guardian 1314529;1446520136;assbot;Logged on 18-06-2015 14:04:54; mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner 1314530;1446520189;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: source for that claim of yours? 1314531;1446520337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133038 @ 0.0005456 = 72.5855 BTC [-] {7} 1314532;1446520709;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: a good 80% of adults in usa, iirc, have the antibody. 1314533;1446520896;asciilifeform;'Severances mother said her son flew a skull-and-crossbones flag at the family home, developed an interest in crystals and once took money that his family thought he was spending on college tuition and invested it in Chrysler.' 1314534;1446520905;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: what does it mean to "have the antibody", that one's body produces it? 1314535;1446520913;asciilifeform;aha 1314536;1446520946;asciilifeform;it is difficult to count a virus in the proper sense. 1314537;1446520948;mircea_popescu;which claim of mine ? 1314538;1446521065;asciilifeform;'Defense attorneys, for example, had previously said they might seek to point the finger at another suspect Nancy Dunnings late husband, former Alexandria sheriff James Dunning, who had a tumultuous relationship with his wife. Perhaps laying the groundwork in the case, Severances parents and sister disputed Wednesday that Severance was the man caught on surveillance video possibly following Nancy Dunning at a Target 1314539;1446521065;asciilifeform;store shortly before she was killed.' <<< ahahahaha finally. 1314540;1446521080;asciilifeform;finally we have the missing piece. 1314541;1446521103;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: qntra? 1314542;1446521284;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314522 << hp lost its soul when it surrendered to x86 1314543;1446521284;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 02:59:23; mircea_popescu: hp SELECTED fiorina. 1314544;1446521290;asciilifeform;everything followed logically from this. 1314545;1446521304;asciilifeform;today it is a necromantic husk of its former self, like sgi. 1314546;1446521322;asciilifeform;^^ which still exists, yes! 1314547;1446521354;asciilifeform;... as a thin veil for usg's 'strategic supercomputing' pig trough 1314548;1446521359;asciilifeform;running 100% intel. 1314549;1446521398;asciilifeform;ditto (the late) sun microsystems. 1314550;1446521406;ben_vulpes; mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner 1314551;1446521408;asciilifeform;ditto compaq. 1314552;1446521419;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: immune system, rather than liver 1314553;1446521445;asciilifeform;but otherwise - yes. the latent carriers will develop symptoms as the virus moves from the nerve to the skin. 1314554;1446521453;asciilifeform;(when immunocompromised.) 1314555;1446521487;mircea_popescu;i don't have a source in that sense. you can quote me as an expert. 1314556;1446521563;mircea_popescu;in any case : an effectual immune response keeps this particular virus well contained. its efficiency is predicated on a well functioning liver because of peculiar synthesis pathways that are narrow and easily stress that i don't recall extemporaneously. 1314557;1446521580;phf;sgi had the best implementation of x window system. i briefly had an o2, hand me down from a retrocomputing enthusiast 1314558;1446521593;asciilifeform;phf: i still have an o2 at $redacted 1314559;1446521595;asciilifeform;it worx 1314560;1446521601;asciilifeform;spiffy box, terrible os 1314561;1446521611;asciilifeform;(irix scarcely had any notion of security at all) 1314562;1446521628;asciilifeform;mips cpu, and crossbar switch (yes!) instead of a bus. 1314563;1446521735;asciilifeform;these were the ~physically~ spiffiest workstations i've ever laid hands on, bar none. 1314564;1446521750;phf;true 1314565;1446521761;asciilifeform;http://www.nekochan.net/w/images/thumb/c/ca/SGI_Octane_2_closeup.jpg/300px-SGI_Octane_2_closeup.jpg << it. 1314566;1446521764;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WvoOKB ) 1314567;1446521767;asciilifeform;(not mine. but same type) 1314568;1446521776;asciilifeform;http://www.blakespot.com/sgi/images/sgi_open1.jpg << inside. 1314569;1446521777;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WvoPhD ) 1314570;1446521788;asciilifeform;solid steel everything. 1314571;1446521794;asciilifeform;shielded. 1314572;1446521913;asciilifeform;thing even had a separate port for 3g glasses. 1314573;1446521917;asciilifeform;which i used. 1314574;1446521962;asciilifeform;and worked far better than anything sold today, afaik. 1314575;1446522039;mircea_popescu;looks a little like a pickle jar. 1314576;1446522062;asciilifeform;actually it always reminded me of childhood ЗИЛ fridge. 1314577;1446522082;asciilifeform;http://vse.kz/uploads/monthly_02_2012/post-229063-0-19273400-1330330086.jpg << it 1314578;1446522090;mircea_popescu;or that. 1314579;1446522102;asciilifeform;or, even moar so, https://h-a.d-cd.net/cb0661u-960.jpg 1314580;1446522104;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1l5nwKM ) 1314581;1446522110;phf;that actually looks like octane, i had the low end O2 version 1314582;1446522230;phf;i sold my retrohardware before one of the moves, because, i'm ashamed to say, in 2007 it seemed like "mac, you're my unix now" 1314583;1446522279;asciilifeform;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_O2#/media/File:SGI_O2-IMG_7215.jpg << neato 1314584;1446522279;assbot;SGI O2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wvpujf ) 1314585;1446522292;asciilifeform;most desktop pc chassis still lack this ^ 1314586;1446522472;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00053941 = 13.1616 BTC [-] {3} 1314587;1446522509;asciilifeform;phf: in 2007 it was - esp. if you're into laptops - ~the~ unix. 1314588;1446522512;asciilifeform;as, sadly, today. 1314589;1446522826;asciilifeform;http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gyQAAOSwlaxWNsi8/s-l1600.jpg << yes, that's cast iron. 1314590;1446522826;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wvqhkh ) 1314591;1446522855;asciilifeform;(or possibly cast Al. but heavy.) 1314592;1446522940;phf;still can be had for peanuts, but of course can't get back the time investment into "living with mac", re the in-log points about "running linux since 99" 1314593;1446522963;asciilifeform;i remember, as a schoolboy, wanting very few things more than to own a 'proper unix workstation' 1314594;1446522994;asciilifeform;sorta assumed that they would keep existing. 1314595;1446523021;asciilifeform;(defined, in my mind then, largely as 'physically incapable of running winblowz') 1314596;1446523110;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: qntra? << reading into it, mebbe? 1314597;1446523145;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: read especially into the part with the sheriff. 1314598;1446523192;BingoBoingo; here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." " << Or the society is broken as illustrated by the differing 1314599;1446523192;BingoBoingo; 'Murican and Eastern European interspecies relationship with bears 1314600;1446523205;mircea_popescu;or that. 1314601;1446523218;phf;see, that's cause your priorities were straight. my first "real computer" was a shell into msu machine that was part of GlasNet project (glasnost! internet!) from an elektronika computer, so i kind of always assumed that real computers is not something you have at home. i always just wanted a "deck" from neuromancer. 1314602;1446523548;mircea_popescu;what's definition of real computer ? no basic interpreter ? 1314603;1446523594;asciilifeform;to the young me - it was a unix box. preferably, one too heavy to lift. 1314604;1446523604;asciilifeform;but in no case anything pc-compat. 1314605;1446523610;asciilifeform;ever. 1314606;1446523645;mircea_popescu;i dun think i ever had a real computer./ 1314607;1446523710;phf;real computer is obviously a machine from "понедельник начинается в субботу" novel 1314608;1446523714;asciilifeform;aldan! 1314609;1446523717;asciilifeform;yes! 1314610;1446523774;asciilifeform;the boxes of real life are but poor shadows of the mighty aldan. 1314611;1446523841;mircea_popescu;but we still agree it's just a tool, rite ? like a glorified hoe ? 1314612;1446523861;asciilifeform;more like cathedral organ, in this case. 1314613;1446523870;mircea_popescu;that's not a tool. 1314614;1446523876;asciilifeform;how not ? 1314615;1446523882;mircea_popescu;it's an instrument. 1314616;1446523888;mircea_popescu;they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed. 1314617;1446523900;asciilifeform;'Фёдор же Симеонович Киврин забавлялся с машиною, как ребёнок с игрушкой. Он мог часами играть с нею в чёт-нечёт, обучил её японским шахматам, а чтобы было интереснее, вселил в машину чью-то бессмертную душу - впрочем, довольно жизнерадос 1314618;1446523900;asciilifeform;тную и работящую.' 1314619;1446523906;asciilifeform;(strugatski brothers.) 1314620;1446523954;mircea_popescu;lol japanese shahmatam is what, g o? 1314621;1446523964;asciilifeform;most likely shogi. 1314622;1446523992;mircea_popescu;a 1314623;1446524912;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38195 @ 0.00053984 = 20.6192 BTC [+] {2} 1314624;1446528221;pete_dushenski;buonasera 1314625;1446528241;pete_dushenski;;;ticker 1314626;1446528243;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 381.41, Best ask: 381.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 381.55, 24 hour volume: 86175.43226322, 24 hour low: 330.75, 24 hour high: 379.9, 24 hour vwap: None 1314627;1446528273;pete_dushenski;this is almost starting to look like a breakout eh 1314628;1446528346;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313409 << hehehe not ~actually~ 1314629;1446528346;assbot;Logged on 01-11-2015 22:53:50; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313062 << waitasec he actually named the boy this ? 1314630;1446528408;pete_dushenski;it's no different than calling your friend 'aces' because when you play poker he somehow always have pocket rockets. tis just a nickname. 1314631;1446528516;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313503 << np! 1314632;1446528517;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:09:05; BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski 1314633;1446528647;pete_dushenski;;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ? 1314634;1446528648;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1314635;1446528702;pete_dushenski;"My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ? 1314636;1446528813;pete_dushenski;"The worst thing that can happen to a man is for him to invest speculatively as a sideline and for it to work. He then runs the risk of considering himself a good investor." << hardly the worst thing that can happen to a man. depends entirely on what he does with his self-confidence as an investor 1314637;1446528913;pete_dushenski;does he go to the casino and play lotteries because he thinks 'i can't lose!' or does he bury his fortunate treasure until something equally magnificent to whatever succeeded the first time around comes around again, IF it comes around again. 1314638;1446528993;pete_dushenski;so i score a hole-in-one at the golf course and think myself a good golfer now, worst case scenario is i buy a few rounds of beer and boast for a few weeks/months, maybe biting off a bit more than i can chew in a few subsequent matches, but the afterglow will soon fade 1314639;1446529034;pete_dushenski;it's self-correcting. the 'good investor' will come to see himself as having been fortunate THAT ONCE 1314640;1446529057;pete_dushenski;unless, i grant, he's a raving narcissistic lunatic. in which case all bets are off anyways 1314641;1446529119;pete_dushenski;I have only seen conspicuous consumers and Apple fanboys wearing the things. << i've seen exactly two young men wearing the apple watch. exactly two. "no one could've predicted!" 1314642;1446529146;pete_dushenski;butbutbut 'wearable tech is teh future and stuff' 1314643;1446529199;pete_dushenski;no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are. 1314644;1446529206;pete_dushenski;feels like we never even left, doesn't it. 1314645;1446529278;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313561 << read virgil's eclogues if you haven't already. 1314646;1446529278;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:41:07; mircea_popescu: i find the pastoral images soothing 1314647;1446529328;pete_dushenski;i found it a bit dull but hey, to each his own. 1314648;1446529335;pete_dushenski;though farm life does hold some appeal 1314649;1446529407;pete_dushenski;unfortunately around here that's readily muddled with 'acreage life', which it basically ten x 12-acre plots per 'subdivision' where each family has a mid-sized house and a big field for storing their camping trailers/skidoos 1314650;1446530524;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054514 = 10.2486 BTC [+] {3} 1314651;1446531650;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313568 << 'my wife's not in labour, labour's in my wife' 1314652;1446531650;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 03:48:22; ben_vulpes: i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me. 1314653;1446531781;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313617 << lulzy imagery to call kneepads, shinpads, elbow pads, shoulder pads, wrist guards, neck braces all 'helmets' 1314654;1446531781;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 04:06:09; mircea_popescu: next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets. 1314655;1446531981;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313759 << imo it's 50x ~less~ believable now that eth has ~anyone~ interested whatsoever. much less anyone with a few hundred btc to their credit. 1314656;1446531981;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 06:55:59; mircea_popescu: supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o. 1314657;1446532021;pete_dushenski;unless other scam/altcoiners are dropping their other bags and grabbing for eth, lol 1314658;1446532081;pete_dushenski;speaking of which... eth: Last Price 0.00287685 24hr Change -13.38% 1314659;1446532092;pete_dushenski;g-g-g-g-g-gooooooold 1314660;1446532198;pete_dushenski;hey 216 btc riding on that wager. decent. 1314661;1446532409;pete_dushenski;and in the latest bitcoin bloodbath, even the mighty maidsafecoin is coming back down to earth. pretty much ipo level nao and nowhere to go but down. 1314662;1446532506;BingoBoingo;Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html 1314663;1446532507;assbot;Death rates up among poor, middle-aged whites: Suicide, alcohol, drugs factors. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Piys2J ) 1314664;1446532636;pete_dushenski;http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/ << really brings back the memories. *sniff* 1314665;1446532638;assbot;The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrkRW7 ) 1314666;1446532661;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo mebbe tlp became a statistic 1314667;1446532964;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41250 @ 0.00053954 = 22.256 BTC [-] {4} 1314668;1446532971;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314023 << this is so totally a meme nao 1314669;1446532971;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 17:32:44; ascii_field: the no-dick system 1314670;1446533025;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski you mean one million or whatever bs volume it had this month 1314671;1446533096;pete_dushenski;aha that 1314672;1446533460;mircea_popescu;"A scripting language modifies a working system to do certain additional tasks or existing tasks differently and cannot exist without the working system. A programming language builds a working system from scratch." << cute. 1314673;1446533470;mircea_popescu;i understand what the author would like to be true, but seriously... 1314674;1446533482;mircea_popescu;parsed vs compiled is a thing. other than that... 1314675;1446533668;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314202 << only worms eat dirt, only everyone has a smartphone 1314676;1446533668;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 20:53:47; trinque: "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority 1314677;1446533799;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1314678;1446533806;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 370.05, vol: 53833.04812030 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 344.887, vol: 30171.45306 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 372.45, vol: 99475.03302234 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.0, vol: 10.94258278 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 387.7146, vol: 87337.13630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 367.0, vol: 284.82821041 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 358.4425, vol: 233.20731221 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1314679;1446533807;BingoBoingo;;;more 1314680;1446533808;gribble;373.804381771 1314681;1446533881;mircea_popescu;such signal. 1314682;1446534103;BingoBoingo;Many signal 1314683;1446534739;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314382 << nowai ! i dun struck oil !! 1314684;1446534739;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 01:54:37; BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/11/000webhost-penetrated-13-million-plaintext-passwords-compromised/#comment-72691 1314685;1446534751;BingoBoingo;seriously congrats pete_dushenski 1314686;1446534779;pete_dushenski;;) 1314687;1446534786;BingoBoingo;May Pantagruel comfort you in your sleep with cries of praise and hunger 1314688;1446534859;pete_dushenski;now there's a prayer for a wicked soul 1314689;1446534897;pete_dushenski;speaking of wicked souls, goethe's faust is giving me the chills atm ! 1314690;1446534958;pete_dushenski;though i can probably chalk a fair bit of that to listening to the exquisitely performed audiobook recording while walking through the creepy, empty river valley in the early evening. 1314691;1446534998;pete_dushenski;it's strange having sunset at 5pm. 1314692;1446535070;pete_dushenski;the sun sets after 10pm in june here (53.5* north latitude) 1314693;1446535108;BingoBoingo;I prefer it to what happens in the spring with the mornings 1314694;1446535230;pete_dushenski;being... 1314695;1446535343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13816 @ 0.00054693 = 7.5564 BTC [+] {2} 1314696;1446535343;BingoBoingo;dark an hour later suddenly 1314697;1446535379;BingoBoingo;There is no need for an extra hour of sunlight in the summer evening, let the dark comfort and cloak our depravities 1314698;1446535435;pete_dushenski;eh i'm fond of the late, long summer evenings. 1314699;1446535453;pete_dushenski;you can golf until after 10:30 ! 1314700;1446535729;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << I got the error popup but also the "save file" dialog, and it worked http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read 1314701;1446535729;assbot;Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ? 1314702;1446535731;assbot;Source file could not be read - MozillaZine Knowledge Base ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q300uA ) 1314703;1446535737;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: You can golf in the dark 1314704;1446535756;BingoBoingo;Ads an element of challenge 1314705;1446536017;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314589 << that's *so* cool 1314706;1446536017;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 03:53:46; asciilifeform: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gyQAAOSwlaxWNsi8/s-l1600.jpg << yes, that's cast iron. 1314707;1446536032;deedbot-;[Qntra] Ransomware Ring Busted, "Decryptors" Rushed by Adware Vendors - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ransomware-ring-busted-decryptors-rushed-by-adware-vendors/ 1314708;1446536110;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314616 << you don't name your desktops ? weird... 1314709;1446536110;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed. 1314710;1446536175;pete_dushenski;fuck, even my ibm model m has a name 'round the house : richard a.k.a. dick, for the persistant annoyance obv. 1314711;1446536299;punkman;human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom 1314712;1446536302;pete_dushenski;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3299487/The-world-s-robot-actress-Talking-android-fitted-human-face-given-star-role-Japanese-nuclear-disaster-film.html << biz. are. 1314713;1446536302;assbot;Robot 'actress' Geminoid F is given star role in Japanese film Sayonara | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1izJOCF ) 1314714;1446536354;pete_dushenski;punkman computars in every room ! and chickens in every stove ! 1314715;1446536374;pete_dushenski;and yea, naming's not for everyone. 1314716;1446536447;*;pete_dushenski recalls famous top gear botswana special where hammond names his opel 'oliver', to much razzing from may and clarkson. 1314717;1446536481;pete_dushenski;iirc it was an opel kadett 1314718;1446536498;*;pete_dushenski checks... kadett it was 1314719;1446536657;*;pete_dushenski to sleep 1314720;1446537040;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzfq9Egxeo 1314721;1446537041;assbot;The Station Night Club Fire (GRAPHIC) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1izL0Wu ) 1314722;1446537304;punkman;http://wpri.com/2015/10/31/us-nightclub-fire-victims-lament-deadly-romanian-blaze/ 1314723;1446537306;assbot;Station nightclub fire victims lament deadly Romanian blaze | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News ... ( http://bit.ly/1izLoo2 ) 1314724;1446538210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00054731 = 28.6517 BTC [+] {2} 1314725;1446540101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00055736 = 31.881 BTC [+] {4} 1314726;1446540467;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76000 @ 0.00054463 = 41.3919 BTC [-] {3} 1314727;1446545573;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314443 << I think it can handle arbitrary bytestrings 1314728;1446545573;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 02:37:49; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye 1314729;1446545604;BingoBoingo;For some definitions of arbitrary it seems 1314730;1446545811;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314463 << not uncommon, using object as a dictionary 1314731;1446545811;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 02:49:23; ben_vulpes: punkman: https://github.com/pgbovine/CDE/blob/master/scripts/package_completer.py#L39 1314732;1446546918;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/jury-says-harris-stowe-discriminated-awards-dismissed-white-instructor-nearly/article_a72e6120-e535-597b-b5e8-dedaa64386bf.html 1314733;1446546919;assbot;Jury says Harris-Stowe discriminated, awards dismissed white instructor nearly $5 million : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1k7kcyE ) 1314734;1446547655;jurov;https://twitter.com/ken_lunde/status/661351862155669506 1314735;1446547701;jurov;^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode 1314736;1446547724;adlai;who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful 1314737;1446547728;jurov;lol "It's uninspired and ungracious." 1314738;1446548641;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.00054148 = 24.9893 BTC [-] {3} 1314739;1446551107;davout;maybe designing the bitcoin unicode symbol is a problem fit for hearn and gavin, would keep them busy at least 1314740;1446551135;davout;debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption 1314741;1446551264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00054232 = 39.9148 BTC [+] 1314742;1446551691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142400 @ 0.00054006 = 76.9045 BTC [-] {4} 1314743;1446551882;jurov;no!! need horizontal bars for stabileety!!!1 1314744;1446552240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 164150 @ 0.00053756 = 88.2405 BTC [-] {6} 1314745;1446552268;adlai;radiating bars, representing hubs and spokes, heavy nodes and litehead wallets 1314746;1446553222;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.06520684 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b5 1314747;1446554762;punkman;http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Man-Loses-Hand-During-Fight-Outside-Bryan-Nightclub--339487572.html 1314748;1446554763;assbot;Man Loses Hand During Fight Outside Bryan Nightclub ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7xx6P ) 1314749;1446557608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00053601 = 35.1087 BTC [-] {4} 1314750;1446558228;punkman;https://instagram.com/p/oc4moYtDUF/ instagramslut "quits" social media 1314751;1446558230;assbot;Social Media Is Not Real Life on Instagram: “Was paid $400 to post a dress. That's when I had maybe 150k followers, with half a million followers, I know of many online brands (with big budgets) that pay up to $2000 per post. Nothing is wrong with accepting brand deals. I just think it should be k ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNN4X7 ) 1314752;1446559809;jurov;in other news, https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JDCSkko1XEA/VjiZ19x8Z9I/AAAAAAAAWxQ/ArK1W20Vhwc/w480-h265-no/tumblr_ngoksdqbxs1qaqx8xo1_500.gif 1314753;1446559811;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNUYQf ) 1314754;1446560695;davout;jurov: lol 1314755;1446560713;davout;i can do the same with my c0ck 1314756;1446560938;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/an-exit-strategy-for-traitors.html << orlol (guest article) 1314757;1446560939;assbot;ClubOrlov: An Exit Strategy for Traitors ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO09zG ) 1314758;1446561017;asciilifeform;'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them that this would be worth it? 1314759;1446561017;asciilifeform;Where did they all get the money to pay for it? Why was there absolutely no effort at any border to stop them? Why did this not start earlier? ... look at the character of the average refugee. Why are they all well-fed, well-clothed, self-confident young men showing no signs of stress or hardship? ... Why do they all own high-quality mobile phones charged with seemingly endless minutes? It is clear that the refugees 1314760;1446561020;asciilifeform; have been briefed on exactly what kinds of social benefits they can demand, and how to go about doing it, and so they are audacious and become violent if met with resistance.' 1314761;1446561038;asciilifeform;'Germany's vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who called an undefined but large part of the German populace who dare to oppose this insanity Pack (vermin).' 1314762;1446561062;asciilifeform;'Vacant houses and apartments are confiscated by force and given over to the refugees free of charge. Every refugee given rental housing is paid for by the communities, as much as 500 Euros per person per month.' 1314763;1446561182;asciilifeform;most lulzily, 1314764;1446561184;asciilifeform;'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.' 1314765;1446561318;asciilifeform;so usg has decided to prolong own life by feeding germany the kosovo pill. 1314766;1446561494;asciilifeform;meanwhile finland hands out free moneyz to orcs, http://yle.fi/uutiset/kela_to_prepare_basic_income_proposal/8422295 1314767;1446561494;assbot;Kela to prepare basic income proposal | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO2ydr ) 1314768;1446561814;asciilifeform;;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated 1314769;1446561814;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 07:28:49; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << I got the error popup but also the "save file" dialog, and it worked http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read 1314770;1446561814;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1314771;1446561837;asciilifeform;somehow people are missing the significance of this find 1314772;1446561855;asciilifeform;at one point, the net mostly... worked. 1314773;1446561871;asciilifeform;whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described... 1314774;1446561909;asciilifeform;and if it is a browser issue, it appears to affect all civilized browsers of the graphical variety 1314775;1446561945;asciilifeform;but why break your brain, only a terrorist!!1111!!11 would download a pgp sig! 1314776;1446561960;asciilifeform;meanwhile, 1314777;1446561971;asciilifeform;'The court sentenced the defendant to custody of the Bureau of Prisons for a period of 78 months. This term consists of terms of 78 months on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all counts to be served concurrently. Upon release from custody, the defendant shall be placed on a term of supervised release for a period of 3 years. This term consists of terms of 3 years on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all such terms to run 1314778;1446561971;asciilifeform;concurrently. The defendant is ordered to pay a special assessment in the amount of $300, which shall be due immediately. The defendant shall pay Restitution in the amount of $340,000. The court did not impose a fine.' 1314779;1446561977;asciilifeform;(carl force) 1314780;1446562010;asciilifeform;or hm, this was qntra'd already, nm. 1314781;1446562026;adlai;ah, but ross has to serve his life sentenses in series 1314782;1446562036;kakobrekla;concurrently ?? 1314783;1446562048;kakobrekla;he should have gotten more cores. 1314784;1446562048;adlai;Corrections 2.0 1314785;1446562062;asciilifeform;adlai: this was re: carl force. which i somehow slept through. 1314786;1446562079;kakobrekla;"can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?" 1314787;1446562101;adlai;asciilifeform: well i slept through the fact that his sentences sleep through eachother! 1314788;1446562176;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314722 << in the american version of this (the famous 'station fire') there was some fella who survived ~at the bottom of~ the human plug in the only exit - by being drenched in the piss from the bodies above him. 1314789;1446562176;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 07:55:04; punkman: http://wpri.com/2015/10/31/us-nightclub-fire-victims-lament-deadly-romanian-blaze/ 1314790;1446562179;asciilifeform;leidenfrost effect. 1314791;1446562209;asciilifeform;so the '$64k question', was there a 'piss man' in bucharest ? 1314792;1446562337;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314735 << usg wants a convenient three-byte marker for intel's hw rootkit to grep your ram for. any questions? 1314793;1446562337;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:21; jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode 1314794;1446562428;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 << no handoutz for these 'untermenschen', move along. 1314795;1446562428;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 06:35:06; BingoBoingo: Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html 1314796;1446562483;jurov;"BTC" or "XBT" is not convenient enough? 1314797;1446562498;asciilifeform;ask them, not me... 1314798;1446562526;adlai;too many false positives in --armor blocks 1314799;1446562533;punkman;asciilifeform: it was really odd seeing all those people stuck in front door and others trying unsuccessfully to pull them out of the human pile 1314800;1446562541;punkman;(in Station fire video) 1314801;1446562548;asciilifeform;punkman: cattle men at their best 1314802;1446562566;asciilifeform;i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place 1314803;1446562584;punkman;also interesting how fast the thick black smoke started pouring out of every orifice 1314804;1446562584;asciilifeform;it is one thing to sit in, e.g., crowded train or lift, gotta get to that point B from your point A 1314805;1446562603;asciilifeform;quite another to voluntarily pack into a crematorium 1314806;1446562714;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314768 << checked the downloaded file, looked intact 1314807;1446562714;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 14:43:34; asciilifeform: ;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated 1314808;1446562727;asciilifeform;punkman: what browser ? 1314809;1446562736;punkman;Firefox 1314810;1446562740;asciilifeform;~which~ firefox 1314811;1446562746;adlai;/usr/bin/firefox 1314812;1446562752;asciilifeform;l0l 1314813;1446562763;punkman;some newish version :P 1314814;1446562842;asciilifeform;i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez. 1314815;1446562915;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314643 << can't wait for the massive lease termination penalty for 'jailbreak' etc. 1314816;1446562915;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 05:39:59; pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are. 1314817;1446562930;asciilifeform;see also thread http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-10-2015#1308889 1314818;1446562930;assbot;Logged on 27-10-2015 15:37:12; asciilifeform: another was 'you open the box and the gasenwagen comes ten minutes later.' this was at one point considered practical but the proliferation of cheap hardware retired it. 1314819;1446562942;punkman;http://www.pcworld.com/article/3000637/security/winner-claimed-in-1-million-ios-9-hacking-contest.html 1314820;1446562943;assbot;Winner claimed in $1 million iOS 9 hacking contest | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjqWVr ) 1314821;1446562976;asciilifeform;laundry. 1314822;1446562990;asciilifeform;(transfer of usg moneys from one pot to another) 1314823;1446563032;asciilifeform;no street plebe ever has or could win these 'contests.' 1314824;1446563052;asciilifeform;(picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry') 1314825;1446563136;*;asciilifeform bbl. 1314826;1446563428;*;adlai wonders why http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151031/README_eaf469e31cfaeaaed889fc295c1221c096b3e1bb.txt sha1sums to c27844e8ed5e125fecffe727a777d17ea2930a12 1314827;1446563429;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjrNFA ) 1314828;1446564009;thestringpuller;;;ticker 1314829;1446564010;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.58, Best ask: 390.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 390.61, 24 hour volume: 122790.98133868, 24 hour low: 337.6, 24 hour high: 398.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1314830;1446564030;thestringpuller;volatility round two 1314831;1446566517;adlai;jurov: how does one massage ml messages to hash correctly? eg, `curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt|sha1sum` returns 550b8afdb75a1f8c682cb545eb2c8941e2584c29 1314832;1446566564;adlai;discrepancy never noticed on attachments past the first attachment_deadbeef.txt, but noticed on every first one checked 1314833;1446566621;*;adlai might also be on the wrong side of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-11-2015#1314773 1314834;1446566621;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 14:44:31; asciilifeform: whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described... 1314835;1446567150;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b40 1314836;1446567150;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b41 1314837;1446567729;phf;adlai: you might have an extra newline there 1314838;1446567791;*;adlai tried adding/removing strategic newlines, as well as s/=/=3D/ 1314839;1446567817;*;adlai did not spend more than ~15 minutes guessing at these 1314840;1446567847;phf;notmuch show --format=mbox thread:000000000000999c |awk '// { if(p) { print } } /-----BEGIN/ { if(!p) print; p=1;} /-----END/ { p=0 }'|xxd > a; curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt > b; diff a b 1314841;1446567848;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLLqj ) 1314842;1446567877;phf;^- shows that attachment_ has \x0a\x0a at the end, where's my awk based extract only adds one 1314843;1446567955;phf;(that second curl is missing |xxd, but you get the general idea) 1314844;1446568016;*;adlai only gets one trailing #xA from curl!? 1314845;1446568118;phf;... 1314846;1446568130;jurov;adlai interesting 1314847;1446568135;phf;welcome to modern computing 1314848;1446568142;phf;0000600: 2d0a 0a -.. 1314849;1446568151;phf;^- is the tail end of that curl 1314850;1446568246;adlai;ok, that one gives me the same. the ones that I checked (mod6's V, mpi-genesis) did not. 1314851;1446568277;adlai;but none of them sha1sum to the filename 1314852;1446568305;adlai;signatures are correct, so at some level this is masturbation 1314853;1446568347;phf;well, you can just pipe them into xxd and then diff the result 1314854;1446568386;*;adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining 1314855;1446569355;jurov;!t m x.eur 1314856;1446569356;assbot;[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 (40 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00357296 / 0.00383564 (1482 shares, 5.30 BTC), 30D: 0.0035 / 0.00418695 / 0.00469539 (7480 shares, 31.32 BTC) 1314857;1446569370;jurov;;;calc 1/0.0035 1314858;1446569370;gribble;285.714285714 1314859;1446569375;jurov;O.o 1314860;1446569429;jurov;;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central 1314861;1446569430;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 355.0, Best ask: 360.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 355.0, 24 hour volume: 373.30829898, 24 hour low: 293.5, 24 hour high: 365.0, 24 hour vwap: 325.80944611 1314862;1446569808;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00053495 = 12.4643 BTC [-] {5} 1314863;1446571286;funkenstein_;mod6 ,thanks for the script :D 1314864;1446571345;funkenstein_;also in "noob learning V ropes" news, patches for parousal: http://frass.woodcoin.org/dev/ 1314865;1446571346;assbot;Index of /dev ... ( http://bit.ly/1kpxFRS ) 1314866;1446571371;funkenstein_;*perusal 1314867;1446571414;adlai;now that's a coin i haven't seen in a long time 1314868;1446571445;*;adlai just a couple days ago discussed finite vs indefinite disinflation, mentioned woodcoin, eyebrows were raised 1314869;1446571488;funkenstein_;:D 1314870;1446571509;funkenstein_;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 <-- reminded me of http://www.theonion.com/article/study-depression-hits-losers-hardest-924 1314871;1446571509;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 06:35:06; BingoBoingo: Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html 1314872;1446571511;assbot;Study: Depression Hits Losers Hardest - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsNXnY ) 1314873;1446571547;adlai;phun phact, the onion is totally wrong on this. depression is worst when baseless. 1314874;1446571598;funkenstein_;aha, good point.. more "clinical" then i suppose 1314875;1446571748;funkenstein_;"spend your remaining years raising some woman's children by another man" <-- /me would consider this a compliment of highest order 1314876;1446571760;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00053487 = 33.5898 BTC [-] {2} 1314877;1446572269;trinque;funkenstein_: in which direction? 1314878;1446572370;funkenstein_;trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc. 1314879;1446572851;trinque;funkenstein_: perhaps. given though that having children is already likely -ev, bringing biological conflict into the balance would seem to make it more so. 1314880;1446572885;trinque;furthermore you can't spend the compliment 1314881;1446572980;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00053487 = 5.9173 BTC [-] {2} 1314882;1446573222;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#b26 1314883;1446573254;funkenstein_;trinque, biological conflict? 1314884;1446573468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115900 @ 0.00053484 = 61.988 BTC [-] {5} 1314885;1446573510;trinque;funkenstein_: you're aware that other primate (and other mammal) males will kill unrelated offspring of a new mate? 1314886;1446573548;funkenstein_;and direct offspring, what of it? 1314887;1446573598;funkenstein_;"unrelated" is a bit of a misnomer, wouldn't you agree? 1314888;1446573602;trinque;not at all 1314889;1446573616;trinque;you are going to expend more effort convincing some kid that saw you show up to obey than you will one that didn't 1314890;1446573643;trinque;and beyond that, I would not be surprised at all if being aware of "degree of relatedness" is built-in 1314891;1446573671;funkenstein_;well that's where the proverbial switch comes in then I suppose 1314892;1446573737;funkenstein_;either you make them practice or you don't.. if your eyes are slightly different color that's really not important 1314893;1446573886;trinque;seems you are discounting the in-group/out-group dynamics of social animals 1314894;1446573920;trinque;nowhere did I say it was impossible to teach a stepchild, yet, may cost more 1314895;1446573970;funkenstein_;could be, yah.. but still, "you should be a teacher" is not an insult 1314896;1446574014;trinque;"go and be parasitised; you are only useful as fodder for others" << is 1314897;1446574042;trinque;"only" being quite operative there 1314898;1446574043;funkenstein_;true.. to me, being parasitised, as fodder for others, would more likely be - take my sperm, discard me 1314899;1446574054;funkenstein_;teach offspring winblows 1314900;1446574056;funkenstein_;:D 1314901;1446574057;trinque;lol, you precious bodily fluids ?! 1314902;1446574060;trinque;*your 1314903;1446575501;punkman;;;ticker 1314904;1446575502;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 418.09, Best ask: 418.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 418.25, 24 hour volume: 155010.88900597, 24 hour low: 342.01, 24 hour high: 419.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1314905;1446575645;PeterL;crazy price jump recently, how high will it go? 1314906;1446575659;punkman;to the moon 1314907;1446575694;PeterL;good news for bitbet, makes the price bets more interesting 1314908;1446575872;mircea_popescu;!up Bugpowder 1314909;1446575877;mircea_popescu;look who's there. 1314910;1446575891;Bugpowder;Sup 1314911;1446575921;Bugpowder;gotta ident 1314912;1446576347;thestringpuller;Holy fuck! 1314913;1446576371;thestringpuller;This day just got more interesting. 1314914;1446576778;PeterL;what is interesting? 1314915;1446577012;thestringpuller;Bugpowder has returned. A name I haven't seent in many years. 1314916;1446577310;jurov;;;seen bugpowder 1314917;1446577311;gribble;bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 minutes and 3 seconds ago: gotta ident 1314918;1446577400;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314711 << that's impractical, can't ONLY do live porn . 1314919;1446577400;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 07:38:19; punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom 1314920;1446577473;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314736 << they're just fishing for relevancy. who knows, if they do that maybe we don't kick unicode out of computing. 1314921;1446577473;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:44; adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful 1314922;1446577516;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314740 << the problem with the flat world is, inter alia, that nobody wants to do the tasks he's suited for. gotta aspire! 1314923;1446577516;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 11:45:35; davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption 1314924;1446577564;mircea_popescu;gavin threw out a perfectly satisfactory career as mcdonalds manager to pretend like he's an intellectual, that scruffy kid could have been an excellet poolboy, but no, he has to pretend like political clout and whatnot. 1314925;1446577572;mircea_popescu;life's hard for the postmodern inept. 1314926;1446577595;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1314927;1446577612;*;ascii_field meanwhile cut another ~100kB of crud off mpi 1314928;1446577620;ascii_field;it begins to approach.... 1314929;1446577622;ascii_field;printability. 1314930;1446577630;mircea_popescu;the postfeudal jobbgy had it better. yes, backbreaking labour and no ownership, but also the satisfaction of a day's work done each night. 1314931;1446577637;mircea_popescu;o hey! 1314932;1446577675;ascii_field;incidentally this thing is going in cardano in place of the unspeakably untested ragtag thing i had previously. 1314933;1446577704;mircea_popescu;ev en better! 1314934;1446577716;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b34 1314935;1446577786;*;ascii_field when reading code where each important algo quotes a knuth aop chapter and verse, the soul fucking sings 1314936;1446577808;mircea_popescu;lol jurov. no boobs do that. ever. 1314937;1446577809;ascii_field;~who~ wrote mpi, i wonder 1314938;1446577819;ascii_field;do we know ? (i certainly do not) 1314939;1446577849;ascii_field;all i see in the commentz is 'tomb of the unknown free software soldier' sorta thing 1314940;1446577910;ascii_field;why this kolhoz. 1314941;1446577916;ascii_field;i never understood. 1314942;1446577950;mircea_popescu;hey, me either. 1314943;1446578126;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314758 << can stop reading there. fucktard. 1314944;1446578126;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 14:30:17; asciilifeform: 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them tha 1314945;1446578155;mircea_popescu;islamic society consists by 45-60% by mass of young (ie, just like in the west, under 35) men with no property and no prospects (just like in the west) 1314946;1446578180;mircea_popescu;except there they're not being pacified with idle "prospects" and "software engineer" pretenses, they're just told outright : your sisters belong to the wealthy and get fucked. 1314947;1446578188;mircea_popescu;so they're getting fucked. towards where there's free cunt. 1314948;1446578194;ascii_field;waitasec how does this work 1314949;1446578195;mircea_popescu;> http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#selection-711.0-711.64 1315225;1446594813;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 14:56:06; asciilifeform: i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place 1315226;1446594813;assbot;How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qa47Ed ) 1315227;1446596176;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not optimized for your usec 1315228;1446596176;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 15:00:42; asciilifeform: i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez. 1315229;1446596176;mircea_popescu;ase, but for netflix usecase. 1315230;1446596224;mircea_popescu;why would you imagine THAT particular aspect of the charade is in so much better shape than all the others ? can'\t fucking compile, right ? why would you be able to tcp/ip ? 1315231;1446596313;mircea_popescu;and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out for them ? ha. 1315232;1446596324;mircea_popescu;a little bit of comfort for a short interval and then oblivion. this is how nature works. 1315233;1446596330;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1315234;1446596337;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 373.837804, vol: 77239.76012104 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 348.95, vol: 427.18736 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 371.2654, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 395.46864, vol: 117318.73700000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 371.0, vol: 28385.100767 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 370.0, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last average: 384.756959479 1315235;1446596343;mircea_popescu;maybe the slightly browner kids their sisters will have whether they want to or not will have better sense. 1315236;1446596349;mircea_popescu;something tells me they will. 1315237;1446596371;mircea_popescu;the battle for 400, eh BingoBoingo ? 1315238;1446596385;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: For 400 euros 1315239;1446596404;mircea_popescu;the difference is nigligible :D 1315240;1446596413;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1315241;1446596420;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 411.02, vol: 77229.07498454 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 376.973, vol: 42579.68211 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 413.0, vol: 172230.05428862 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 407.0, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 432.5298, vol: 117462.04440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 406.58278, vol: 402.22741974 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 405.557, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1315242;1446596421;BingoBoingo;;;more 1315243;1446596421;gribble;average: 414.463709678 1315244;1446596437;BingoBoingo;I dunno dollares need a whole second message 1315245;1446596440;*;mircea_popescu can't remember if he had money on the 400 bet or not 1315246;1446596569;BingoBoingo;I cunt remember either 1315247;1446596985;deedbot-;[Qntra] Micon Gets Probation and $25,000 Fine - http://qntra.net/2015/11/micon-gets-probation-and-25000-fine/ 1315248;1446597112;mircea_popescu;what was this for, again ? 1315249;1446597121;BingoBoingo;The seal with clubs thing 1315250;1446597126;BingoBoingo;Operating it at all 1315251;1446597129;mircea_popescu;oh, being online as a us citizen ? 1315252;1446597133;BingoBoingo;Yeah 1315253;1446597155;mircea_popescu;hopefully teaches the rest of 'em a lesson. 1315254;1446597162;mircea_popescu;go innovate under the bedsheets, yo. 1315255;1446597169;BingoBoingo;Sure taught me one 1315256;1446597199;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314824 << suppose instead of picturing, you do that then i can write in qntra about it ? 1315257;1446597199;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 15:04:12; asciilifeform: (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry') 1315258;1446597204;mircea_popescu;not the you you, the general you. 1315259;1446597414;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314855 <> http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#selection-711.0-711.64 1315278;1446601113;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315227 << if it were wide-spectrum rot of this kind, the multi-GB turds i routinely move around would suffer bitrot 1315279;1446601113;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 00:16:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not opti 1315280;1446601121;asciilifeform;(they do not.) 1315281;1446601190;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315231 << you don't need that many orcs to turn a germany into an england 1315282;1446601190;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 00:18:33; mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out fo 1315283;1446601214;asciilifeform;see 'wasp' - how many maniacs does a city need running loose to stop all meaningful commerce..? 1315284;1446601228;asciilifeform;even one can suffice. 1315285;1446601282;asciilifeform;the particulars of the death of europe aside, the 'not so many people' thing boggles my mind. it is not unlike saying 'bullet is so small, how can an elephant die of it?!!' 1315286;1446601354;jurov;first "wasps" from turkey arrived in germany 30 years ago . per your theory, it should lay in ruins already 1315287;1446601420;asciilifeform;from one bullet, elephant visibly thrashed. now let's have ten. 1315288;1446601518;asciilifeform;see also: 1315289;1446601521;asciilifeform;!s rotherham 1315290;1446601521;assbot;9 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham 1315291;1446601579;jurov;so? english lords did it, too 1315292;1446601591;asciilifeform;which it 1315293;1446601602;jurov;child abuse 1315294;1446601612;jurov;and catholic teachers in ireland 1315295;1446601612;asciilifeform;afaik they mainly 'did'... each other 1315296;1446601621;jurov;and.. and... 1315297;1446601643;jurov;but i guess this discussion is hopeless, goodnight 1315298;1446601647;asciilifeform;i'll be the last to cry for the english, or for the germans, as they go into the woodchipper 1315299;1446601667;asciilifeform;but does jurov like crossing countries off the map? at the end of the day, one has to live somewhere. 1315300;1446601684;jurov;you do it, not me 1315301;1446601701;asciilifeform;jurov would still agree to move to de ? 1315302;1446601708;jurov;yes 1315303;1446601714;*;asciilifeform takes off hat 1315304;1446601802;mircea_popescu;im bashing rthe seaweed 1315305;1446601838;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what's not to get ? one would set food in the deathtraps for cunt. 1315306;1446601840;asciilifeform;if the fish can, they must! 1315307;1446601861;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ah, this! 1315308;1446601909;mircea_popescu;and the bullet thing is nonsense. immigration only hurts low status males. it helps low status females, and high status everybody. 1315309;1446601917;mircea_popescu;fuck the low status males, who the fuck said they get anything ? 1315310;1446601931;mircea_popescu;if they didn't suck there wouldn'\t be immigration, they'd be out there enslaving africa. 1315311;1446601940;mircea_popescu;they wanna be orwell, that's fine BUT it comes with a dulap and anal lube. 1315312;1446601945;asciilifeform;afaik none of the migrant folks intend to work 1315313;1446601957;mircea_popescu;and what, the "born in germany" derps do ? 1315314;1446601964;mircea_popescu;work at wow, maybe. 1315315;1446601980;asciilifeform;de still has actual industry 1315316;1446601982;asciilifeform;(unlike usa) 1315317;1446601986;mircea_popescu;again : if they had intended to work they would be out there shooting elephants. 1315318;1446601999;mircea_popescu;yeah, it does, on account of romania making the parts. tyvm. 1315319;1446602018;*;asciilifeform dimly aware of this 1315320;1446602022;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: which parts ? 1315321;1446602042;mircea_popescu;pretty much all brake assemblages used in "european" cars made in ro. 1315322;1446602062;asciilifeform;siemens et al make silicon. 1315323;1446602064;mircea_popescu;iirc poland and ukr make the drive trains etc. 1315324;1446602070;mircea_popescu;yeah, in... china. 1315325;1446602074;asciilifeform;nope. in de. 1315326;1446602083;mircea_popescu;for what, prototyping ? 1315327;1446602085;asciilifeform;and, iirc, the only modern cpu plant (amd's) outside of usa proper is in de (augsburg?) 1315328;1446602090;asciilifeform;no cpu in cn. 1315329;1446602091;mircea_popescu;or was. 1315330;1446602095;asciilifeform;(of the x86 variety anyway) 1315331;1446602113;mircea_popescu;anwyay. 100k engineers and techs is not this discussion. 1315332;1446602126;mircea_popescu;50 mn nobodies derping about "nordic system" up and down is this discussion. 1315333;1446602138;mircea_popescu;germany took the eastern orcs 20 years ago, what did it do ? 1315334;1446602171;asciilifeform;they worked. 1315335;1446602176;mircea_popescu;like hell they did. 1315336;1446602182;mircea_popescu;ask an actual german. 1315337;1446602204;mircea_popescu;worked with the gab. 1315338;1446602226;*;asciilifeform actually saw'em sweeping toilets in frankfurt and munich 1315339;1446602246;asciilifeform;turks, that is 1315340;1446602259;mircea_popescu;turks lol. east germanz. 1315341;1446602263;asciilifeform;ah, them 1315342;1446602266;mircea_popescu;yes them 1315343;1446602280;asciilifeform;those, yes, afaik, sit around being sad. 1315344;1446602311;asciilifeform;which is not entirely the same as rotherhaming 1315345;1446602313;mircea_popescu;how exactly is ein berliner better than شيعي ? 1315346;1446602322;asciilifeform;he doesn't rotherham ? 1315347;1446602347;mircea_popescu;pfff. 1315348;1446602352;mircea_popescu;this is not better. this is worse. 1315349;1446602383;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu sees rotherhaming as an essential public service. i don't grasp this. seems approximately as useful as locusts. 1315350;1446602415;mircea_popescu;understand the fundaments of society : if you're confronted with a group of 100 idiot boys doing idiot shit, you go up to one of them, grab him by the hair and bash his head into a wall until he stops moving. problem solved. if however you run into a group of 100 idiot girls sitting around being weird, you rape one. problem also solved. 1315351;1446602458;mircea_popescu;misbehaviour of the sort described in http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/ has its very well documented, well understood, perfectly funtional solution 1315352;1446602459;assbot;How is it the end ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QakFMp ) 1315353;1446602461;mircea_popescu;violence. 1315354;1446602562;mircea_popescu;there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police". 1315355;1446602572;mircea_popescu;it's that violence without recourse is educative. 1315356;1446602727;asciilifeform;speaking of locusts, 1315357;1446602728;asciilifeform;http://i.imgur.com/qyuJVVh.jpg 1315358;1446602729;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1QalsNA ) 1315359;1446602729;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314878 << lotta wishful thinking in there, of the exact sort that was supposed to be a solution for 1970s women. 1315360;1446602729;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 17:39:30; funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc. 1315361;1446602732;mircea_popescu;it didn't work for them. maybe it works for you, who knows. 1315362;1446602735;asciilifeform;^ found this little fella today. 1315363;1446602741;asciilifeform;he's out of season, methinks 1315364;1446602757;mircea_popescu;aww cute 1315365;1446602835;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315354 << expand on this ? 1315366;1446602835;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 02:02:42; mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police". 1315367;1446602863;mircea_popescu;well, where does it rub ? 1315368;1446602909;asciilifeform;!rated zfx 1315369;1446602909;assbot;You have not rated zfx. 1315370;1446602920;asciilifeform;!rate zfx 1 new blood, lisp 1315371;1446602921;assbot;Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/10cf6aac5f28ab4a 1315372;1446602952;mircea_popescu;black mothers beat their children. black husbands beat their wives. brothers lay the smackdown on one another all the time, and teenaged females with overactive coyness stand a decent change to get a sweet sixteen gangbang. this all helps to maintain the society functional. 1315373;1446602960;asciilifeform;!v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.zfx.1:bc9c9005043f336af0a6ba4e952ef195291a3023e86906a98ccb238d97b8e95a 1315374;1446602960;assbot;Successfully added a rating of 1 for zfx with note: new blood, lisp 1315375;1446602973;mircea_popescu;people love to derp about how easter island ecological collapse is an example of this and that, 1315376;1446602986;mircea_popescu;rarely does it occur that "this is what happens when no preditors" 1315377;1446603028;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu posits usa city blacks as examples of 'functional' ?!! 1315378;1446603034;mircea_popescu;yes. 1315379;1446603044;mircea_popescu;guess what ? they have no propblem with immigration. 1315380;1446603049;mircea_popescu;what is your definition of functional ? 1315381;1446603049;zfx;thanks 1315382;1446603094;mircea_popescu;it's what fucking health is. "an organism is healthy when all foreign bodies ingested are food." 1315383;1446603104;zfx;can anyone recommend high-quality starting literature for studying electronics? 1315384;1446603112;asciilifeform;zfx: horowitz & hill 1315385;1446603122;zfx;got that on the way 1315386;1446603125;mircea_popescu;electronics as what, a practical aplication ? 1315387;1446603144;asciilifeform;zfx: but you will need basic school maths. if your education is seriously deficient, you may need forrest mims 1315388;1446603162;zfx;well, I'm interested in some of the cpu reinvention ideas discussed here 1315389;1446603188;mircea_popescu;L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Electrodynamics in Continuous Media. hurr. 1315390;1446603188;zfx;asciilifeform: how far is 'basic'? 1315391;1446603206;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: win 1315392;1446603217;mircea_popescu;i dunno what he's asking, what can i say. 1315393;1446603263;mircea_popescu;https://archive.org/stream/ElectrodynamicsOfContinuousMedia/LandauLifshitz-ElectrodynamicsOfContinuousMedia_djvu.txt << free even 1315394;1446603268;assbot;Full text of "Electrodynamics of Continuous Media" ... ( http://bit.ly/1QamPvJ ) 1315395;1446603268;asciilifeform;zfx: i must agree with mircea_popescu. thus far we have only the foggiest notion of what it is you'd like to accomplish 1315396;1446603274;mircea_popescu;and in engluish no less. 1315397;1446603292;zfx;asciilifeform: my lack of knowledge is somewhat robbing me of the ability to ask the right question... 1315398;1446603312;mircea_popescu;eh, read that volume 8. can't be you're doing anything more important anyway. 1315399;1446603327;asciilifeform;mega-recommended. 1315400;1446603333;zfx;put it this way, I've spent a pretty long time working with software, but never dug into the hardware as far as I'd like to 1315401;1446603346;mircea_popescu;(read, in the mathematical sense, is a specific thing. do all the work. especially the stuff towards the end of a chapter. ESPECIALLY.P) 1315402;1446603350;zfx;certainly not far enough to read schematics and understand what I'm looking at 1315403;1446603373;zfx;mircea_popescu: thanks, will read 1315404;1446603413;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: perhaps surprisingly, i must take issue with the reductionist approach here. electrodynamics is to 'electronics' as fluid dynamics is to modern plumbing 1315405;1446603422;mircea_popescu;ftr, ee without that is like jd without blackstone. 1315406;1446603433;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform gotta start somewhere! 1315407;1446603434;zfx;can't hurt to understand the fundamentals 1315408;1446603450;*;asciilifeform blows dust off blackstone 1315409;1446603462;mircea_popescu;or pr without cicero 1315410;1446603468;mircea_popescu;or on it goes. 1315411;1446603495;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: most of the time folks asking after 'electronics' 'just want to know' how to arrange the mosfets 1315412;1446603502;mircea_popescu;yeah well fuck them. 1315413;1446603511;zfx;that's not really my style 1315414;1446603528;mircea_popescu;they wanna learn how to arrange mosfets, take a job in a tv repair shop for a summer. 1315415;1446603545;*;asciilifeform doubts there are any discrete fets to be found in a modern tv 1315416;1446603548;asciilifeform;but yes. 1315417;1446603554;mircea_popescu;so go to cairo, take the job there. 1315418;1446603568;shinohai;Guatemala still has old sets :D 1315419;1446603573;asciilifeform;i'd expect sov. tube sets in cairo 1315420;1446603575;*;mircea_popescu has observed person mill cylinder piston replacement by hand 1315421;1446603577;asciilifeform;but perhaps i'm out of date 1315422;1446603588;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: cuba? 1315423;1446603591;mircea_popescu;cairo. 1315424;1446603600;asciilifeform;neato 1315425;1446603653;mircea_popescu;now i regret not buying them a tea 1315426;1446603692;asciilifeform;re: cylinder, it is the lapping rather than the milling that is the tricky bit 1315427;1446603864;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315017 << with one million gallons of fuel. what ? 1315428;1446603864;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:13:22; jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people? 1315429;1446603871;asciilifeform;aha. 1315430;1446603888;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315024 << yep. 1315431;1446603888;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:17:49; ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ? 1315432;1446603888;asciilifeform;consult, e.g., the memoirs of one douglas mcarthur. 1315433;1446603893;mircea_popescu;not "if". was there, saw that. 1315434;1446603931;mircea_popescu;heck, the only reason putin can't get rid of the underworld like stalin did is PRECISELY that back in stalin's day they'd have been shot, but these days... welcomed. 1315435;1446603943;asciilifeform;so nato is a scam ? 1315436;1446603949;asciilifeform;somebody tell jurov. 1315437;1446603949;mircea_popescu;dude seriously. 1315438;1446603953;mircea_popescu;how could it NOT be a scam ? 1315439;1446603964;mircea_popescu;you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ? 1315440;1446603965;mircea_popescu;TWICE 1315441;1446603994;mircea_popescu;somehow it was "defeated" both times, notwithstanding that fuck you, bunch of idiots, you don't show up as per deal and then bitch about it five years later ? 1315442;1446604018;mircea_popescu;poland got nearly wiped, on the strength of the same scam, also twice. 1315443;1446604052;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315028 << the orcs are accepted because if you don't fuck your wife, someone will. 1315444;1446604052;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:19:08; ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg 1315445;1446604072;mircea_popescu;end of fucking story, no usg enters into any of it. binary choice, pick one : ( ) man ; ( ) boy. 1315446;1446604081;asciilifeform;and if you don't burn down the church, someone else will ? 1315447;1446604099;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 1315448;1446604107;mircea_popescu;either you burn theirs or they burn yours. 1315449;1446604114;asciilifeform;now this, yes. 1315450;1446604126;mircea_popescu;for as long as italians aren't dropping nerve gas on eritrea, 1315451;1446604136;asciilifeform;'paris eats couscous' 1315452;1446604137;mircea_popescu;eritreans will be going to rome. 1315453;1446604170;asciilifeform;put in this notation, it is smashingly obvious. 1315454;1446604177;mircea_popescu;mkthen. 1315455;1446604218;mircea_popescu;and bitching notwithstanding, i will point out that this "send the women naked butt first" approach is so far working a lot better than the "we will resist behind the walls of vienna" 1100s stuff. 1315456;1446604220;asciilifeform;iirc they dropped mustard gas 1315457;1446604221;asciilifeform;but yes. 1315458;1446604226;mircea_popescu;arguably a larger migratory wave than that one 1315459;1446604239;mircea_popescu;(recall my discussion of china and how it keeps creating these waves that smash europe ?) 1315460;1446604254;asciilifeform;aha. 1315461;1446604270;mircea_popescu;that's the deep driver here. the us isn't even on the map. 1315462;1446604283;mircea_popescu;china is strongly centralizing again, the nomads are going west. 1315463;1446604292;mircea_popescu;pushing western tribes further west 1315464;1446604308;asciilifeform;as i understand, cn is only involved in the sense that it is impervious to the usg orc-pushing current 1315465;1446604309;mircea_popescu;at least this time they don't have a leader. yet they are very well connected. 1315466;1446604315;mircea_popescu;which is why the politruks are so affraid to move. 1315467;1446604322;mircea_popescu;god fucking help the lot if they do actually get a leader. 1315468;1446604342;mircea_popescu;100 man "special forces" teams are impressive on tv, owing to the poor quality of the camera as a perception mechanism. 1315469;1446604355;mircea_popescu;but otherwise, the us got wiped, by a smaller force. 1315470;1446604461;asciilifeform;last i heard, it wasn't the chinese who flattened syria 1315471;1446604473;mircea_popescu;o, right, right... it was... wait for it... REBELS 1315472;1446604482;mircea_popescu;herpy derp. the us couldn't recruit 5 of those. 1315473;1446604490;mircea_popescu;how come the fucking rebels were in syria rather than in fucking japan ? 1315474;1446604491;asciilifeform;(though it may well have been cn who airdropped brand new ipnohes) 1315475;1446604508;mircea_popescu;dude. the pakis pushed west. 1315476;1446604535;mircea_popescu;who the fuck do you think flattened syria if not a bunch of hardcore dudes that have been training against the "coallition" scarecrows for a decade ? 1315477;1446604581;mircea_popescu;they don't wanna live in rome, they wanna live in lebanon. they don't like your women, they like those. 1315478;1446604588;mircea_popescu;because much less shit to explain, they mostly get it. 1315479;1446604636;asciilifeform;but in rome/berlin/stockholm there is payola. 1315480;1446604639;mircea_popescu;"isis" is a conveyor belt. it reduces tectonics by moving people west. 1315481;1446604646;mircea_popescu;fuck the payola. you think pashtun wants it ?! 1315482;1446604650;asciilifeform;sure he does. 1315483;1446604660;mircea_popescu;like hell. this is your "usg matters" delusion speaking. 1315484;1446604662;asciilifeform;(or what is he doing in rotherham ?) 1315485;1446604662;mircea_popescu;try it, offer me some. 1315486;1446604692;mircea_popescu;they're different people. the people colonising england and the people beheading us "soldiers" are maybe born from the same mother, 1315487;1446604696;mircea_popescu;but they are different people. 1315488;1446604931;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315048 << hopefully. 1315489;1446604931;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:25:14; ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu. 1315490;1446604935;mircea_popescu;i'd even consider moving. 1315491;1446604988;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315070 << this is likely. 1315492;1446604988;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:41:28; jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it 1315493;1446605007;mircea_popescu;the magical thing about societal collapse is that meh, whatever. women are still usable anyway. 1315494;1446605023;asciilifeform;worked great in ptolemaic egypt ? 1315495;1446605041;asciilifeform;(i dare say not) 1315496;1446605053;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315072 << don't be silly! you're basically arguing ohio state is contiguous with indian ohio. 1315497;1446605053;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 20:42:09; ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de 1315498;1446605070;asciilifeform;didn't mircea_popescu confess that he'd much rather have the tall lanky pharaonic folks than the present crop of orcsen 1315499;1446605075;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the greeks weren't enough. that's the thing with them, from anabasis onwards : never fucking enough 1315500;1446605097;mircea_popescu;what i'd rather doesn't enter into it. i would rather the "civilised" world burn than continue. 1315501;1446605113;mircea_popescu;yes, i'd much rather that this burning happens in the consciousness of the derps involved, 1315502;1446605117;mircea_popescu;but fancy the odds of that. 1315503;1446605230;felipelalli;deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=n235faWk 1315504;1446605231;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg6G6g ) 1315505;1446605273;mircea_popescu;deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=n235faWk 1315506;1446605274;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg6G6g ) 1315507;1446605282;mircea_popescu;trinque is he uypset ? 1315508;1446605446;trinque;there's crap at the end of it, which is probably why 1315509;1446605468;mircea_popescu;oh 1315510;1446605476;trinque;I parse me inputs! 1315511;1446605519;mircea_popescu;good boy! 1315512;1446605536;felipelalli;deedbot- hates me :) 1315513;1446605552;trinque;just hack off that end bit and I expect it will work 1315514;1446605555;mircea_popescu;felipelalli you added stuff at the end 1315515;1446605563;trinque;deedbot- http://dpaste.com/212ATQC.txt 1315516;1446605565;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg7hox ) 1315517;1446605565;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1315518;1446605565;mircea_popescu;!h 1315519;1446605565;assbot;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot 1315520;1446605566;felipelalli;Ah! I'm sorry. 1315521;1446605571;trinque;felipelalli: I just did it for ya :) 1315522;1446605578;trinque;lol! 1315523;1446605609;mircea_popescu;!up Krystyl 1315524;1446605625;mircea_popescu;basically you need a pgp key (do you have one ?) and register it with assbot 1315525;1446605637;felipelalli;trinque, thank you! 1315526;1446605645;Krystyl;do not have one 1315527;1446605656;felipelalli;trinque, but I need that stuff in the end. Should I re-sign the entire message? It will work? 1315528;1446605664;mircea_popescu;Krystyl well then get gpg and make one. 1315529;1446605733;felipelalli;deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UXCFq5gF 1315530;1446605733;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg7zLT ) 1315531;1446605735;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1315532;1446605742;felipelalli;nice! thank you trinque 1315533;1446605908;mircea_popescu;Krystyl are you twitter.com/krystyl incidentally ? 1315534;1446605933;Krystyl;nope not me 1315535;1446605959;mircea_popescu;aite 1315536;1446605986;Krystyl;I think I need to look into this more because I have no idea what pgp & gpg are........ 1315537;1446606015;mircea_popescu;are you on windows ? 1315538;1446606039;Krystyl;yes 1315539;1446606040;felipelalli;first step: use Linux! :) 1315540;1446606045;mircea_popescu;lol. 1315541;1446606053;mircea_popescu;what was it, winpgp ? 1315542;1446606062;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: phun phakt: M_DEBUG in gpg-1.4 never worked 1315543;1446606065;mircea_popescu;www.gpg4win.org/ < there we go 1315544;1446606067;felipelalli;In Windows try it: http://www.gpg4win.org/ 1315545;1446606068;assbot;Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC37et ) 1315546;1446606068;asciilifeform;explodes into a fiery hell 1315547;1446606115;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform heh 1315548;1446606169;asciilifeform;the way in which it is written suggests that it ~once~ worked but was mutilated. 1315549;1446606176;asciilifeform;(by whom? i do not know.) 1315550;1446606218;*;asciilifeform replacing the whole bloody mess with own allocator 1315551;1446606230;trinque;felipelalli | nice! thank you trinque << quite welcome 1315552;1446606257;*;asciilifeform laments having to do this 1315553;1446606315;felipelalli;goodbye guys, good to see you again! 1315554;1446606374;mod6;asciilifeform: you wanna give my changes to V a try? http://dpaste.com/0BE564M.txt 1315555;1446606375;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg8z2O ) 1315556;1446606396;asciilifeform;mod6: this looks nifty, sign & post to ml ? 1315557;1446606418;mod6;yeah, wanna test it a bit more before.. but by the end of the weekend for sure. 1315558;1446606434;*;asciilifeform doesn't like running items that no one has signed 1315559;1446606456;mod6;the changes should make it so that you don't need Graph::Easy until you wanna run the "g" or "graph" command. 1315560;1446606461;asciilifeform;cool 1315561;1446606462;mod6;that's fine. 1315562;1446606509;asciilifeform;mod6's 'v' is nice'n'polished 1315563;1446606657;mod6;thx! i'll post this change here as soon as I get everything bundled up and the docs altered. 1315564;1446607828;adlai;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-03/that-time-i-tried-to-buy-some-crude-oil "Kaminska insists on paying me by blockchain, the digital ledger system that is currently all the rage on Wall Street." 1315565;1446607830;assbot;That Time I Tried to Buy an Actual Barrel of Crude Oil - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC6wKq ) 1315566;1446607863;mod6;<+funkenstein_> mod6 ,thanks for the script :D << np 1315567;1446607952;mircea_popescu;that name seems familiar.\ 1315568;1446608492;BingoBoingo; you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ? << Scammed by "Dallas" 1315569;1446608506;mircea_popescu;howssat ? 1315570;1446608590;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b37 1315571;1446608755;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That 80's TV show. They didn't want other arrangements. They wanted Texas's loving arms and ended up with a bunch of empty Yankee promises. 1315572;1446608782;mircea_popescu;heh 1315573;1446608852;deedbot-;[Trilema] The war of the Roses - http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/ 1315574;1446608871;BingoBoingo;Allies with planes their existing stock beats in exercises and whatnot 1315575;1446608983;BingoBoingo;!up robotnum1 1315576;1446609033;robotnum1;thank you 1315577;1446609149;BingoBoingo;What brings you around these parts? 1315578;1446609341;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1315579;1446609351;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 436.07, vol: 81086.89608211 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 393.803, vol: 43587.99041 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 183349.6136867 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 462.650158, vol: 118724.88190000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 415.0, vol: 361.2682475 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 416.252, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1315580;1446609352;BingoBoingo;;;more 1315581;1446609353;gribble;440.782865035 1315582;1446609450;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1315583;1446609457;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 397.78497, vol: 81212.59885246 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 369.47, vol: 445.76416 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 388.025, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 423.8038, vol: 118675.86920000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 390.0, vol: 30793.0272735 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 380.0, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: 409.981740163 1315584;1446609469;BingoBoingo;Seriously nigligible difference 1315585;1446609544;BingoBoingo;400 euros 1315586;1446609596;robotnum1;so how many of you are short at this moment? 1315587;1446609683;BingoBoingo;Das not a very polite question, but I'm about 5'7" 1315588;1446609690;robotnum1;lol 1315589;1446609776;robotnum1;no one know how long this bubble is gonna last. I wish i knew 1315590;1446609807;robotnum1;or rather where it is gonna do a U-turn 1315591;1446609865;kakobrekla;around the moon, naturally 1315592;1446609920;BingoBoingo;And then to mars 1315593;1446609958;BingoBoingo;Not a U-turn, this isn't Missouri so not legal here. A gravity assisted slingshot. 1315594;1446610188;robotnum1;our of this solar system i suppose 1315595;1446610192;robotnum1;oout* 1315596;1446610200;BingoBoingo;Mebbe? 1315597;1446610244;mircea_popescu;!up wpalczynski 1315598;1446610299;mircea_popescu;<robotnum1> so how many of you are short at this moment? << i would be surprised if anyone is short btc. 1315599;1446610381;BingoBoingo;robotnum1: I've got a movie about market crashes to psych you up if you are short: "My Name is Bill W", has James Woods, not bad for made for tv 1315600;1446610460;BingoBoingo;Related: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3214 1315601;1446610461;assbot;JL: They Came from Cosmo! ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaFG9O ) 1315602;1446610486;robotnum1;no im not short. im undecided 1315603;1446610541;BingoBoingo;Prolly the best movie about the 1929 crash out there 1315604;1446610597;robotnum1;youtubing 1315605;1446610634;BingoBoingo;just torrent it already. Youtube is nothing but flash and google virii orfice 1315606;1446610831;BingoBoingo;!up robotnum1 1315607;1446611134;ben_vulpes;ahaha wut spike lee thinks he's doing lysistrata 1315608;1446611161;asciilifeform;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-03/when-a-127-year-old-u-s-industry-collapses-under-china-s-weight << RIP alcoa 1315609;1446611162;assbot;When a 127-Year-Old U.S. Industry Collapses Under China's Weight - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaGT0Z ) 1315610;1446611262;ben_vulpes;spacey and chappelle! 1315611;1446611277;asciilifeform;what are those ? 1315612;1446611334;ben_vulpes;things that don't exist in your world iirc 1315613;1446611400;asciilifeform;where might one find them ? 1315614;1446611482;ben_vulpes;perhaps google? imdb might tell of them. 1315615;1446611697;phf;spike lee is making a movie with spacey and chappelle? :o 1315616;1446612182;ben_vulpes;anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open? 1315617;1446612841;BingoBoingo;!up robotnum1 1315618;1446613542;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314616 << weapons, too 1315619;1446613542;assbot;Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed. 1315620;1446613554;BingoBoingo;!up felipelalli 1315621;1446613585;felipelalli;trinque, do you know why my deed wasn't published yet in deedbot.org? Thank you. 1315622;1446613601;trinque;felipelalli: btcd blew up, actually 1315623;1446613612;trinque;I am not yet sure why; it was accepted though, and also the transaction was sent 1315624;1446613625;trinque;so it will be on the website shortly 1315625;1446613636;felipelalli;ah! ok, thank you! 1315626;1446613640;trinque;no problem 1315627;1446613733;trinque;felipelalli: it is about 20 blocks behind at the moment, so it shouldn't be too long, perhaps an hour 1315628;1446613876;felipelalli;trinque, to avoid blew up due to spam txs put this on config: 1315629;1446613883;felipelalli;minrelaytxfee=0.0003 limitfreerelay=3 sendfreetransactions=0 1315630;1446613913;felipelalli;not sure if it was it, but... 1315631;1446613952;trinque;felipelalli: could very well have been, though I'm going to have to have a talk with runit as to why it wasn't immediately restarted. perhaps it was running slow for a while before death 1315632;1446613964;trinque;I'll look into that for sure, thanks :) 1315633;1446614011;felipelalli;trinque, it worked for me! :) 1315634;1446614059;felipelalli;actually, I just saw right now that my node is also DEAD!! lol 1315635;1446614073;felipelalli;what is going on? 1315636;1446614113;felipelalli;it is weird because I run an instance of testnet and normal node in the same machine and both are dead. 1315637;1446614126;mircea_popescu;heh. alcoa huh 1315638;1446614219;felipelalli;it was unrelated. In my case the HD just crashed. I was using an old external HD :) 1315639;1446614325;felipelalli;It is what looks like when your HD crashes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Gj6pZ04e 1315640;1446614326;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGDK9w ) 1315641;1446614479;mircea_popescu;"While thats a big deal for the U.S. industry and the people it employs, it doesnt mean much for global supplies. Alcoas decision to eliminate 503,000 metric tons of smelting capacity accounts for about 31 percent of the U.S. total for primary aluminum, but less than one percent of the global total, according to Harbor." 1315642;1446614487;mircea_popescu;best summary of us importance in the world. 1315643;1446614714;ben_vulpes;zing 1315644;1446614843;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i gotta ask: what in satan's green earth is a raiserist ? 1315645;1446614857;mircea_popescu;someone who raises. 1315646;1446614885;mircea_popescu;you know, awareness raiserists. 1315647;1446614887;*;asciilifeform went on clearly wrong mental path, tried to picture something pertaining to hans reiser 1315648;1446614903;mircea_popescu;but that's reiser not rAiser. 1315649;1446614909;asciilifeform;ah, yes. 1315650;1446614927;*;asciilifeform has been out of bed much too long 1315651;1446616071;asciilifeform;;;later tell mod6 s/leafs/leaves 1315652;1446616072;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1315653;1446616231;asciilifeform;;;later tell mod6 in your 'v', gpg doesn't seem to be confined to a temporary state dir !!!? 1315654;1446616231;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1315655;1446616334;asciilifeform;^ this means that attempts to run with smaller subsets of a wot that was ~ever once~ used on the box - will fail ! 1315656;1446616342;asciilifeform;(imported keys will stay imported) 1315657;1446616373;asciilifeform;likewise, any keys imported outside of 'v' will be applied by 'v' 1315658;1446616384;mircea_popescu;that's not so good. 1315659;1446616384;asciilifeform;which is not a thing that you want. 1315660;1446616423;*;asciilifeform is lately in the habit of reading things before running'em 1315661;1446616932;ben_vulpes;code literacy 1315662;1446618117;BingoBoingo;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/world/middleeast/ahmad-chalabi-iraq-dead.html 1315663;1446618120;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nd3bK6 ) 1315664;1446618128;BingoBoingo;^ Godfather of ISIS dead 1315665;1446618462;ben_vulpes;subject of le terror, i rewatched Swordfish last night 1315666;1446618487;ben_vulpes;very amusing that the thing was released on the eve of 9/11 1315667;1446618524;ben_vulpes;halle berry, yo. 1315668;1446618591;mircea_popescu;she's ugly isn't she ? 1315669;1446618669;deedbot-;[cascadian hacker] Inside Apple's perfectionism machine, adnotated - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/03_inside-apples-perfectionism-machine-adnotated.html 1315670;1446618707;BingoBoingo;She goes through phases 1315671;1446618845;mircea_popescu;https://www.quora.com/Who-originated-the-saying-What-fresh-hell-is-this << this posteriorist crap is boggling my mind. so there exists somewhere a schmuck, married by his mugshot, who actually goes around expertly answering questions on social media with regurgitation of other social media sources ? "according to twitter, facebook invented the internet" ? 1315672;1446618846;assbot;Who originated the saying, "What fresh hell is this?" - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nd3XqH ) 1315673;1446618850;mircea_popescu;who the fuck are these people! 1315674;1446618860;mircea_popescu;who fucks them ? who feeds them ? and most importantly : why ? 1315675;1446619629;BingoBoingo;Obama feeds them 1315676;1446619642;BingoBoingo;Because Obama hates civilization 1315677;1446619813;trinque;deedbot- is having a terrible time getting a node which will speak to him at the moment 1315678;1446619849;trinque;and many orphan blocks 1315679;1446619931;mircea_popescu;teh republic's own ? 1315680;1446620066;trinque;no, and it's high time I switched to the proper client; this has been on btcd for quite a while 1315681;1446620169;BingoBoingo;Throw more RAM at it? 1315682;1446620177;BingoBoingo;More cores? 1315683;1446620249;trinque;2gb ram, using 500mb, 1 core but not using nearly any CPU at the moment 1315684;1446620339;trinque;the orphan blocks started after 381963 1315685;1446620406;trinque;like so http://dpaste.com/3N40HTC.txt 1315686;1446620408;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wvp9lW ) 1315687;1446620451;mircea_popescu;188.68.240.159 88 connections atm. 1315688;1446620847;trinque;mircea_popescu: ty, added and restarted. it's connected, hasn't said anything about a block yet 1315689;1446620860;mircea_popescu;http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ << check out the scamcoin getting burned into the ground. so after the sucker jump, the volume is up, the mkt cap constant, the price dropping like a rock. 1315690;1446620861;assbot;Ethereum (ETH) price, charts, and info | Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pexkvq ) 1315691;1446620879;mircea_popescu;"i have an idea", sez buterin, "let's print and sell eth! it's almost as good as tax and spend!" 1315692;1446620880;trinque;sweet, there it goes with 381964 1315693;1446622158;Namworld;Is there anyone interested in buying 20% of Coinroll? If he didn't ask in here yet, I know someone who wants to do just. 1315694;1446625952;punkman;Namworld: how much is that valued at? 1315695;1446627403;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b40 1315696;1446630106;davout;guten morgen 1315697;1446630110;davout;!proxies 1315698;1446630274;davout;$proxies 1315699;1446630454;copypaste;" In other news cazalla wished to take an extended vacation from Bitcoin and recieved a buyout for his board position. " http://qntra.net/2015/11/qntra-s-qntr-october-2015-report/ 1315700;1446630455;assbot;Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Report | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q56NE2 ) 1315701;1446630458;copypaste;How much was the buyout ? 1315702;1446630470;copypaste;Who took his place, if anyone? 1315703;1446630476;copypaste;I find it odd this wasn't mentioned. 1315704;1446630497;copypaste;BingoBoingo ^ 1315705;1446630572;punkman;copypaste: was in the logs, rest of the board bought cazalla's shares 1315706;1446630721;copypaste;Gotcha, thank you punkman 1315707;1446630723;davout;copypaste: approx. 10 btc if memory serves 1315708;1446630737;copypaste;& davout :) 1315709;1446630738;gribble;Error: "davout" is not a valid command. 1315710;1446635691;Namworld;punkman, sorry, no valuation. Unlisted. 1315711;1446635886;Namworld;It comes with a right to ~50 BTC from undistributed bankroll. So there's already a base price of 2.5 BTC per %. and some offers. Although if you want to make an offer, you should drop a mail at support email or something. Sure our guy would appreciate. 1315712;1446635905;Namworld;All data and stats are public/downloadable on website. 1315713;1446635945;Namworld;I have to log off for now. 1315714;1446635961;Namworld;I'll try and come back around. 1315715;1446637012;punkman;;;ticker --market all 1315716;1446637019;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 466.29, vol: 88333.48927328 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.023, vol: 46717.41364 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 471.0, vol: 208567.62850058 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 475.0, vol: 16.06520961 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 493.944359, vol: 119833.32010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 430.0, vol: 337.16250505 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 458.301996, vol: 615.98618908 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1315717;1446637407;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50002466 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b42 1315718;1446638278;shinohai;http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/tennessee-man-charged-with-raping-wife-in-church-parking-lot-i-am-your-husband-i-can-get-it-anytime-i-want/ 1315719;1446638279;assbot;Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuXDyd ) 1315720;1446639964;shinohai;wb wyrdmantis 1315721;1446639970;wyrdmantis;;;isup mpex.co 1315722;1446639971;gribble;mpex.co is down 1315723;1446639983;wyrdmantis;;;isup mpex.ws 1315724;1446639985;gribble;mpex.ws is down 1315725;1446639999;wyrdmantis;hi shinoai 1315726;1446640013;shinohai;think it is down across the board 1315727;1446640073;wyrdmantis;i see 1315728;1446640106;wyrdmantis;why is that? 1315729;1446640142;shinohai;dunno mircea_popescu said sumthin in the lawgs about it crappin out for some unknown reason. 1315730;1446640246;wyrdmantis;shinoai thanks dude, no time to read the logs in this period 1315731;1446640420;shinohai;no worries, I finally stopped being lazy and fixed me ml mail to go to the correct email for btc-dev. 1315732;1446643432;solrodar;someone's just raised an interesting point at https://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/ 1315733;1446643432;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 :: 16.09 B (26%) on Yes, 46.75 B (74%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 84`375 (100`000 to 20`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mc4SHV ) 1315734;1446643450;solrodar;what happens if ALL the bets on one side are refunded? 1315735;1446643514;solrodar;I think the only fair response would be to cancel the whole bet and refund the other side as well 1315736;1446644639;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete? 1315737;1446644675;punkman;solrodar: that does seem problematic 1315738;1446644908;solrodar;I'd argue that BitBet is holding the pool in trust for the winners 1315739;1446644926;solrodar;if there are no winners, then the whole thing is null and void and the money should be sent back to where it came from 1315740;1446645179;punkman;solrodar: but do the losing bettors have a claim on that money? 1315741;1446645181;mod6;anyway, if thats acceptable, I'll see what I can do about it tonight. 1315742;1446646360;fluffypony;wow major protests happening in Romania 1315743;1446646361;fluffypony;https://i.imgur.com/gsB8bsM.jpg 1315744;1446646362;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9byfU ) 1315745;1446646388;trinque;mircea_popescu: in my logs, deedbot's btcd eventually disconnected from 188.68.240.159 and began receiving orphan blocks again. after restarting it, it reconnected to your node and is receiving blocks normally again 1315746;1446646393;*;trinque is very suspicious 1315747;1446646404;fluffypony;"32 people died (and a lot more in critical condition) because of a fire in a club last Friday. The problem is that the the local authorities allowed that club to function without even the most basic fire-precaution measures, which essentially led to the fire and that many victims (150 injured and as i said before quite a few in critical condition). With a bit of a bribe you can do anything in Romania." 1315748;1446646729;shinohai;@ fluffypony yeah I just noticed mircea_popescu home country was having a chimpout wow xD 1315749;1446646771;fluffypony;cray cray 1315750;1446646797;mircea_popescu;soo, re mpex : the trouble has been identified, i'm pretty sure. will be fixed and then tested etc, i expect mpex back before the weekend. 1315751;1446646954;mircea_popescu;trinque sounds suspicious enough. 1315752;1446647032;mircea_popescu; Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit. 1315753;1446647430;mircea_popescu;solrodar it is an interesting point. 1315754;1446647495;shinohai;marriage should be like an alliance between friendly nations. Outside of that it is a horrid concept, as defined in the us 1315755;1446647512;mircea_popescu;mod6 yeah i think the idea is to have a temp space. 1315756;1446647593;mircea_popescu;fluffypony mmyeah, some cattle got burned so now they want the mayor in prison. because logically, that's what matters. when teh politruks set the whole country on fire nobody gave a shit, but god help you if some moos get run over. 1315757;1446647621;fluffypony;lol 1315758;1446647649;mircea_popescu;shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing. 1315759;1446647736;mircea_popescu;fwiw, the mayor in question is the chimp of all time. known as the aka "piedone", because when he was young http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076544/ 1315760;1446647738;assbot;Inspecteur Bulldozer (1978) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1McenqH ) 1315761;1446647741;mircea_popescu;so he wants to be cool like that. 1315762;1446647755;mircea_popescu;sort-of like a dilbert reader going by "colombo" or some equally ridiculous shit. 1315763;1446647755;shinohai;marriage hasn't always been historically defined between solely man and woman though, iirc 1315764;1446647778;mircea_popescu;shinohai because why, nero married a horse ? 1315765;1446647790;mircea_popescu;ofcourse it is, says so right in the churchly book. 1315766;1446647932;*;shinohai wishes there was an actual "#b-a Bible" written in a religious-styled prose ... 1315767;1446647939;solrodar;punkman: in the absence of any precedent or rule for this situation, I suppose nobody has a claim on the money 1315768;1446647941;mircea_popescu;god i hate bucharest. just looking at that picture... brrrrr. but unrelatedly, if you lived behind one of those front windows, and there was a protest at night like that, wouldn't you fuck the woman for the camera ? 1315769;1446647964;solrodar;it would be acceptable for bitbet to destroy it by sending it somewhere provably unspendable, but not to keep it for themselves 1315770;1446648006;mircea_popescu;solrodar the problem with precedent and rule based systems is that you don't know what will happen until it actually happens. i would guess what would happen here would be the bet gets cancelled and so the nos get their btc back too, and perhaps the ability of bet starter to create that clause gets curtailed. 1315771;1446648007;punkman;that would not be acceptable 1315772;1446648025;trinque;felipelalli: http://deedbot.org/bundle-381953.txt << ding 1315773;1446648055;trinque;meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes 1315774;1446648058;mircea_popescu;!ticker 1315775;1446648058;assbot;Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? 1315776;1446648063;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 1315777;1446648066;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 492.0, Best ask: 492.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.77000, Last trade: 491.61, 24 hour volume: 231944.95432189, 24 hour low: 375.02, 24 hour high: 504.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1315778;1446648069;punkman;;;ticker --market all 1315779;1446648070;shinohai;twitter has "Recommend to follow" https://twitter.com/PopescuCo 1315780;1446648071;assbot;Dan Popescu (@PopescuCo) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9eedq ) 1315781;1446648071;mircea_popescu;holy shit huh. 1315782;1446648078;shinohai;O.o 1315783;1446648083;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 489.04, vol: 94353.31745306 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 454.503, vol: 51020.67408 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 491.61, vol: 231944.95432189 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 450.0, vol: 20.30846861 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 512.056266, vol: 128916.90360000 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 473.541, vol: 764.60162619 | Volume-weighted last average: 492.567547581 1315784;1446648089;mircea_popescu;trinque this is a gnarly thing that's been being worked on for a while. 1315785;1446648094;punkman;china broke $500 eh 1315786;1446648111;mircea_popescu;so wait... i made a few hundred million while i was sleeping ? 1315787;1446648118;trinque;^notbad.jpg 1315788;1446648121;mircea_popescu;i'm sure teh haters are ecstatic over it. 1315789;1446648154;mircea_popescu;shinohai popescu is like the most common romanian name. 1315790;1446648189;shinohai;I know, it appears like diaz or something round here. It only pops up in there bcuz I follow qntra, et all 1315791;1446648201;shinohai;Smith 1315792;1446648220;mircea_popescu;goldbug too lol. funny. "Consultant - Gold & Silver Analyst - Gold Standard, International Monetary System, Precious Metals, Currencies, Geopolitics, Macroeconomics" 1315793;1446648250;mircea_popescu;consultant @ nothing in particular, doesn't really look the right age range for this nuttery. 1315794;1446648299;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315753 1315795;1446648299;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 14:30:30; mircea_popescu: solrodar it is an interesting point. 1315796;1446648701;mircea_popescu; Ethereum (ETH) $ 0.748576 (-24.18 %) 0.00152907 BTC (-39.43 %) 1315797;1446648703;mircea_popescu;you go girl. 1315798;1446648721;mircea_popescu;if anyone was fucktarded enough to buy into the scam on its final phase, i would like to meet them. 1315799;1446649088;danielpbarron;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315758 << 1 Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 1315800;1446649088;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 14:34:09; mircea_popescu: shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing. 1315801;1446649118;mircea_popescu;holy shit, check it out, mp's "you don't own your own sex bits" is older than europe! 1315802;1446649128;mircea_popescu;and here we thought he invented it!11 1315803;1446649371;mircea_popescu;so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladieseven though its founder was a noted schola 1315804;1446649371;mircea_popescu;r offering a rigorous curriculum that educated the illustrious classicist Edith Hamilton. Today the situation has reversed: Miss Porter's School downplays its origins as a finishing school, and emphasizes the rigor of its academics." . now check out the banner : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/%22For_God._For_Country._And_for_Yale.%22_Banner.jpg 1315805;1446649374;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9gG3s ) 1315806;1446649463;mircea_popescu;"yea is for sex, yale is for anal" etc. 1315807;1446652643;mircea_popescu;"Phil Schiller, Apple's longtime senior vice president of worldwide marketing5, is waiting for me when I arrive at Building 3 at the company's Infinite Loop headquarters in Cupertino, California on an unusually warm fall day." motherfucker these idiots. 1315808;1446652656;mircea_popescu;"o no we must do the bio insert IT IS HOW WRITING IS DONE!11!" 1315809;1446652673;mircea_popescu;i bet they hit on chicks by schematics, too. 1315810;1446652742;mircea_popescu;i can't fucking read this gunk. /me skips to footnotes, in perhaps the first occurence this century of that once-prevalent approach 1315811;1446652849;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ? 1315812;1446653243;punkman;http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/cartel-boss-states-we-are-not-terrorists-using-narco-banners/article_62983176-828f-11e5-8614-b79fa686dd4d.html 1315813;1446653244;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1McrCHK ) 1315814;1446653251;punkman;"Accused Gulf Cartel boss Juan Manuel Loiza Salinas reassured residents of Reynosa through a series of banners last week that he is a drug trafficker and not a terrorist." 1315815;1446653332;phf;mod6: original v uses mkdtemp for keyring folder. the general idea is that you don't want to reuse the keyring folder, since it's a place where state is kept for no good reason. you can make sure on startup that you also check that the folder doesn't exist & clean it up before using it, but.. 1315816;1446653376;mircea_popescu;"George Bush was one of these people as well. An intimate of his machine once described his public behavior to me, the long and short of which is that the man is excellent at regurgitating that which had been said to him or that he'd heard, and to stitch together a pastiche that can pass for creative conversation, but largely unable to cook up his own output." << sounds like ivy league. 1315817;1446653422;mircea_popescu;the narcs are definitely going to be running mexico going forward. 1315818;1446653696;mircea_popescu;"True, and disingenous. Truly disingenous. They absolutely are "taking responsibility" for the whole stack, but in the opposite direction of that Moldbuggian notion of the modern bureaucracy dissolving both authority and responsibility across the whole organization. Apple's working quite well to gather the mantle of authority around themselves while avoiding any responsibility at all for the work that they produce." 1315819;1446653706;mircea_popescu;idem. wtf, is there a negation problem ? 1315820;1446656549;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: apple, like a time-and-spacewise miniature tabletop model of usa and the west at large, is burnings its furniture. 1315821;1446656574;mircea_popescu;you don't say. 1315822;1446656607;asciilifeform;sorta like i predicted (which wasn't hard, but for some reason nobody gave a flying fuck) in my ancient article, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132 1315823;1446656609;assbot;Loper OS » Non-Apple’s Mistake ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrLRp9 ) 1315824;1446656730;asciilifeform;;;ticker --market all 1315825;1446656738;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 483.02, vol: 93663.54299319 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 452.0, vol: 52118.71829 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 482.84, vol: 240578.33404426 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 593.6, vol: 18.30417961 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 514.105031, vol: 127559.14390000 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 466.93710859, vol: 731.415109 | Volume-weighted last average: 487.479977116 1315826;1446656745;asciilifeform;wai wat 1315827;1446656749;mircea_popescu;are we broke yet ? 1315828;1446656815;kakobrekla;meat today! 1315829;1446656831;*;asciilifeform equally depressed on ups AND downs, probably to nobody's great surprise 1315830;1446656890;*;kakobrekla hugs asciilifeform 1315831;1446656925;kakobrekla;i know you hate it. 1315832;1446656950;asciilifeform;l0l 1315833;1446656985;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315736 << the way to do it is gpg --homedir /tmp/dirthatyoumadefortheoccasion 1315834;1446656985;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 13:43:59; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete? 1315835;1446657039;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315752 << dan mocsny had great fun with this 1315836;1446657039;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 14:23:52; mircea_popescu: Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit. 1315837;1446657139;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315773 << have you (or anyone else) considered writing a simple tcp proxy for this ? 1315838;1446657139;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 14:40:55; trinque: meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes 1315839;1446657169;asciilifeform;the whole 'noble nodes' thing is on my plate but i elementarily lack the time right now to do any of it. 1315840;1446657184;asciilifeform;and it sits below 'pogoization' on the list, also. 1315841;1446657202;trinque;you recommend a separate proggy rather than patch to bitcoind? 1315842;1446657207;asciilifeform;presently. 1315843;1446657212;asciilifeform;it doesn't need to do very much. 1315844;1446657228;mircea_popescu;* asciilifeform equally depressed on ups AND downs, probably to nobody's great surprise <<< and this ISN'T a psycological defense! 1315845;1446657244;mircea_popescu;we're miserable and things must not change so we stay that way! 1315846;1446657245;asciilifeform;trinque: the tricky part is that it needs to switch destinations (nodes) when the local node aborts 1315847;1446657258;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315616 <--> http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/25/a-retrospective-on-six-years-in-the-car-blogosphere/ 1315848;1446657258;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 04:43:02; ben_vulpes: anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open? 1315849;1446657260;assbot;A retrospective on six years in the car blogosphere | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1WzHhWo ) 1315850;1446657290;trinque;asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end? 1315851;1446657303;trinque;then maybe munches log looking for signs of rude nodes? 1315852;1446657324;asciilifeform;trinque: the real problem is that -connect results in a castrato node 1315853;1446657336;asciilifeform;(that accepts no connections) 1315854;1446657341;trinque;right, meanwhile addnode is not a guarantee iirc 1315855;1446657345;asciilifeform;aha. 1315856;1446657368;asciilifeform;and no log-munching, what, you need a hard list of friends 1315857;1446657387;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315811 << looks like it's missing a "not" in the first sentence 1315858;1446657387;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 16:00:49; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ? 1315859;1446657403;asciilifeform;trinque: i suppose it won't be done until i do it.. 1315860;1446657410;trinque;^ bait 1315861;1446657414;trinque;:D 1315862;1446657418;trinque;doesn't sound that hard 1315863;1446657455;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315828 << champagne tomorrow ! 1315864;1446657455;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:06:55; kakobrekla: meat today! 1315865;1446657508;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nah it's a perfectly logical sort of depressed. down-->'my pathetic handful of coin won't even pay a month's rent'; up-->'now there's many fewer that i could ever hope to have' 1315866;1446657532;pete_dushenski;but... warrants 1315867;1446657542;pete_dushenski;same as yesterday, neh ? 1315868;1446657569;pete_dushenski; I recently discovered that MACOS 10.10.2 categorically refuses to sleep if a video is playing in Chrome. 1315869;1446657598;pete_dushenski;^saw similarly strange behaviour in 10.10 mba when running 'sophos' 1315870;1446657632;pete_dushenski;craptop was closed, shoulda been asleep, but would magically awake, run, and damn near cook itself to death in an effort to be 'pest free' 1315871;1446657680;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: you probably knew this, but i live in 'break my back to pay the bills and with the scraps of time and energy that remain, work on s.nsa' mode. 1315872;1446657705;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: note the ordering in the formulation. 1315873;1446657757;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315409 << /me dusts off 1870 printing of 'the academic questions' 1315874;1446657757;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 02:17:42; mircea_popescu: or pr without cicero 1315875;1446657777;asciilifeform;speaking of this, secmem.c is getting cut and replaced with a stub. because this crud does not belong in mpi, needs to be a quite separate library. 1315876;1446657813;asciilifeform;and it is responsible for most of the #ifdef noise, also 1315877;1446657823;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: the carrot dangleth before you, and when you finally taste it, may that fateful day come, you'll be in the unfortunate position of having to find still another carrot to chase. 1315878;1446657835;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: i still have my original carrot 1315879;1446657844;asciilifeform;...building a sane computer. 1315880;1446657870;asciilifeform;i don't expect to live to eat even the very tip of that carrot. 1315881;1446657892;asciilifeform;ars longa. 1315882;1446657950;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315803 << i used to work very near the (now - demolished, and replaced with obscenely imitative - of it - sprawl of condos) ruins of a 19th c. 'finishing school.' 1315883;1446657950;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 15:02:51; mircea_popescu: so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladieseven though its founder w 1315884;1446657956;asciilifeform;was an interesting sight. 1315885;1446658004;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315880 < comes down to the definition of 'living' 1315886;1446658004;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:24:30; asciilifeform: i don't expect to live to eat even the very tip of that carrot. 1315887;1446658025;asciilifeform;?? 1315888;1446658099;kakobrekla;before bitcoin, i was living in barrel because no matter what i wanst going to be a part of the slave system. you wouldnt call that living. 1315889;1446658133;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: what kind of barrel ? 1315890;1446658146;kakobrekla;l0l. 1315891;1446658163;pete_dushenski;kakobrekla: and what did you do pre-btc ? 1315892;1446658186;kakobrekla;it was slightly larger than Diogeneses 1315893;1446658196;asciilifeform;i mean, we can infer that kakobrekla's barrel contained a computer and also whatever was required to keep his brain alive and in reasonably well-oiled condition 1315894;1446658213;asciilifeform;this - is living. 1315895;1446658228;pete_dushenski;i might've guessed a stint at a big bank as barrel 1315896;1446658246;kakobrekla;move to MK, rent a flat for 100 bux, a better one than my ex barrel. 1315897;1446658274;*;asciilifeform recalls http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2014#870766 1315898;1446658274;assbot;Logged on 13-10-2014 12:56:26; kakobrekla: i understood this pretty quickly so i never got employed. 1315899;1446658292;kakobrekla;and you think this came without consequences ? 1315900;1446658292;mike_c;what's MK? 1315901;1446658304;asciilifeform;morth korea ? 1315902;1446658309;kakobrekla;macedonia 1315903;1446658507;asciilifeform;barrel is not so terrible. it is being solely a barrel's radius from the mass of stinking, writhing human refuse that typically surrounds the barrel, that is. 1315904;1446658549;asciilifeform;we have a kind of 'barrel' in usa - there is a caste of folks who live in converted 'trailers' 1315905;1446658553;kakobrekla;just keep the top closed. 1315906;1446658561;asciilifeform;(a kind of truck box) 1315907;1446658614;asciilifeform;perfectly fine accommodations, physically - about on par with my old flat. BUT you have to live near the other dalits. 1315908;1446658645;asciilifeform;('trailers' are not permitted in most of usa except in specially-designated leprosoria) 1315909;1446658722;kakobrekla;;;google ohrid 1315910;1446658722;gribble;Ohrid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ohrid Vacation, Travel, Tourism, Visit Ohrid - Official Web Site of the ...: ; Natural and Cultural Heritage of the Ohrid region - UNESCO World ...: 1315911;1446658724;kakobrekla;is not so bad. 1315912;1446658753;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: looks spiffy from the photos 1315913;1446658851;kakobrekla;this is a place where cops still take bribes. all of them. 1315914;1446658931;asciilifeform;like most of the planet. 1315915;1446658979;asciilifeform;see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#546880 1315916;1446658979;assbot;Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am 1315917;1446659025;kakobrekla;nah, EU cant bribe a cop. not even in croatia. 1315918;1446659037;asciilifeform;eu is a usg colony 1315919;1446659058;kakobrekla;it changes in bosnia. 1315920;1446659066;asciilifeform;(this is a not altogether bad heuristic for what is a usg colony - can you bribe a traffic cop ?) 1315921;1446659075;asciilifeform;if not --> colony. 1315922;1446659155;shinohai;!s http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/03/hackers-gonna-hack-but-why-maybe-freud-has-the-answer 1315923;1446659156;assbot;Hackers gonna hack, but why? Maybe Freud has the answer | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hrpg5U ) 1315924;1446659157;assbot;0 results for 'http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/03/hackers-gonna-hack-but-why-maybe-freud-has-the-answer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ftechnology%2F2015%2Fnov%2F03%2Fhackers-gonna-hack-but-why-maybe-freud-has-the-answer 1315925;1446659191;asciilifeform;'A humanistic, cognitive psychology approach to hacking would be to consider an emotion such as revenge But my favourite explanation for the academic literature is a Freudian psychoanalytic approach to hacking, which actually conceptualises hacking in Freudian terms as a cyber-sexual urge to penetrate. And there are castration complex overtones in terms of being cut off from the network as well' 1315926;1446659193;asciilifeform;l0l!! 1315927;1446659205;asciilifeform;can't wait for the психушка !! 1315928;1446659307;asciilifeform;'What we have to question ourselves is, as a society, do we really want to criminalise 13, 14 and 15 year-olds? Or do we want to understand their behaviour, engage with their incredible skillsets, mentor them and try to point them in the right direction? she said.' << aha, a course of neuroleptics followed by lifetime indenture at junior www dev work in usg sharashka, is the implication. 1315929;1446659319;asciilifeform;who wouldn't want!11111 1315930;1446659382;asciilifeform;from same fishwrap, equally appetizing, 1315931;1446659383;asciilifeform;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/04/theresa-may-surveillance-measures-edward-snowden 1315932;1446659384;assbot;Theresa May unveils UK surveillance measures in wake of Snowden claims | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmLrQX ) 1315933;1446659405;asciilifeform;'New surveillance powers will be given to the police and security services, allowing them to access records tracking every UK citizens use of the internet without any judicial check, under the provisions of the draft investigatory powers bill unveiled by Theresa May.' 1315934;1446659477;asciilifeform;arguably a snore, because in practice usg already had doing-whatever-the-fuck-it-wants-to-whoever-it-wants powerz 1315935;1446659796;kakobrekla;actually iirc there is a huge underground usg army base in mk 1315936;1446659809;kakobrekla;top sekrit stuff 1315937;1446659830;pete_dushenski;one wonders why usg/uk bother with such surveillance legislation at all if they actually have de facto doing-whatever-the-fuck-it-wants-to-whoever-it-wants powerz 1315938;1446659853;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: aha, why do you suppose they bothered to smash serbia and roll up all of old yugo into usg reich ? 1315939;1446659856;asciilifeform;to make tourist resorts ? 1315940;1446659862;pete_dushenski;superficial politicians want to pretend to matter ? 1315941;1446659873;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: 'so that we would ask' 1315942;1446659884;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: it's fist-in-the-face psyops 1315943;1446659896;kakobrekla;still better than eu. 1315944;1446659947;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: there also a basic trick involved. when you repaint the opposition as 'criminal', it can then be dealt with using police methods, which are cheaper than black bag work 1315945;1446660032;pete_dushenski;seems more like 'we can achieve 90% compliance with 10% effort just by scaring derps into submission' 1315946;1446660034;asciilifeform;and for every brian micon that needs to be tried for 'illegal bitcoining' you have 1,001 schmucks who were afraid to even read about it because 'they log my packetz' 1315947;1446660042;asciilifeform;aha. 1315948;1446660073;pete_dushenski;i've even seen this at usg 'green building' trade shows. 1315949;1446660082;asciilifeform;if mircea_popescu were awake, he would probably say that none of this matters worth a damn 1315950;1446660090;asciilifeform;but i'm not convinced. consider the case of chemistry 1315951;1446660092;pete_dushenski;'don't bring electric power tools because not green!' 'uhhh fuck you' 1315952;1446660100;asciilifeform;which more or less died out as a scientific field in the 'civilized' world. 1315953;1446660113;asciilifeform;(and was never really a thing in the 'uncivilized' - what does a pashtun need it for?) 1315954;1446660214;pete_dushenski;i'd argue that this type of posturing ~does~ matter in the sense that it's a further wedge between ( ) boys and ( ) men 1315955;1446660247;pete_dushenski;if anything, it'll push a few maybe neithers off the fence towards manhood 1315956;1446660257;pete_dushenski;not a bad thing imo 1315957;1446660271;asciilifeform;what, in this case, is 'manhood' ? 1315958;1446660286;asciilifeform;cleaning kalash in kandahar with own piss every morning between goat fucks ? 1315959;1446660302;pete_dushenski;not being afraid of pieces of paper = manhood 1315960;1446660326;pete_dushenski;at least those issued by 'elected politicians' 1315961;1446660329;pete_dushenski;contracts 1315962;1446660338;pete_dushenski;^cat derp 1315963;1446660348;asciilifeform;meanwhile... 1315964;1446660352;asciilifeform;https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0065.mediawiki << ph0rk!! 1315965;1446660353;assbot;bips/bip-0065.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmNNiM ) 1315966;1446660391;pete_dushenski;*contracts between private individuals being another sort of 'piece of paper' altogether, one obviously needing to be very, very afraid of not honouring 1315967;1446660392;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920112 << see old threaad 1315968;1446660392;assbot;Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works' 1315969;1446660449;asciilifeform;'In addition to using cold storage, hardware wallets, and P2SH multisig outputs to control funds, now funds can be frozen in UTXOs directly on the blockchain.' 1315970;1446660543;asciilifeform;'We reuse the double-threshold IsSuperMajority() switchover mechanism used in BIP 66 with the same thresholds, but for nVersion = 4. The new rules are in effect for every block (at height H) with nVersion = 4 and at least 750 out of 1000 blocks preceding it (with heights H-1000..H-1) also have nVersion >= 4. Furthermore, when 950 out of the 1000 blocks preceding a block do have nVersion >= 4, nVersion < 4 blocks become invalid 1315971;1446660543;asciilifeform;, and all further blocks enforce the new rules.' 1315972;1446660547;kakobrekla;worx even with rand() return 4; 1315973;1446660567;asciilifeform;seems like these folks want a replay of the july idiocy ? 1315974;1446660590;pete_dushenski;obligatory : http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/04/bitcoins-4th-of-july-independence-from-america-day/ 1315975;1446660591;assbot;Bitcoin’s 4th of July : INDEPENDENCE FROM AMERICA DAY | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmOgS1 ) 1315976;1446661025;asciilifeform;soooo... 1315977;1446661047;asciilifeform;turns out that one of the users of my personal therealbitcoin node is 'card-ok.com' 1315978;1446661068;asciilifeform;which per the ru sp4mz0rsphere, https://crdclub.ws/showthread.php?p=97248 -- is a 'carding' service 1315979;1446661070;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmOWHj ) 1315980;1446661075;asciilifeform;used to 'test' stolen cc #s. 1315981;1446661183;lobbes;l0l, the many eyes that read the logs 1315982;1446661185;asciilifeform;aha 1315983;1446661215;asciilifeform;i don't like manually kicking folks off my node, but this screams of usg entrapment 1315984;1446661223;asciilifeform;so into iptables it goes. 1315985;1446661297;pete_dushenski;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTC7RkmHac << alf, always a jump ahead 1315986;1446661298;assbot;Aladdin-One Jump Ahead HD (1080p) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmPpsU ) 1315987;1446661300;asciilifeform;if osama bin laden goldstein wants to use my box, plz have the decency to call himself something else. 1315988;1446661344;lobbes;'definitelynotisis.com' 1315989;1446661352;*;asciilifeform sadly contemplates unplugging the thing entirely 1315990;1446661486;lobbes;!up thestringpuller 1315991;1446661495;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: don't let them scare you ! 1315992;1446661505;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: you gonna let the USG force you to shut down your node? 1315993;1446661527;asciilifeform;nah i'll wait till they shoot me and cart it off themselves. 1315994;1446661574;thestringpuller;that's the spirit! 1315995;1446661591;Namworld;In case anyone missed it yesterday, someone is looking to sell 20% of Coinroll 1315996;1446661660;asciilifeform;i insist on being shot for high treason rather than for somehow associating with spamming scum. 1315997;1446661671;pete_dushenski;Namworld: is 'someone' in the wot ? 1315998;1446661693;asciilifeform;perhaps if tlp were here, he might cry narcissism. 1315999;1446661761;pete_dushenski;we'll point him to the log entry when he arrives 1316000;1446661900;asciilifeform;i suppose this is a good time to point out that i fucking hate common criminals who lack the brains or elementary decency to make themselves any kind of hard target 1316001;1446661905;asciilifeform;they are the fodder on which usg lives. 1316002;1446661911;asciilifeform;and cultivates for its sustenance. 1316003;1446661948;asciilifeform;there are precious few creatures upon satan's green earth more loathesome than the common spammer. 1316004;1446661970;mike_c;jurov: you still own part of coinroll? 1316005;1446661973;asciilifeform;the very examples of the 'disposable males overdue for the meatgrinder' as portrayed in mircea_popescu's articles. 1316006;1446662018;Namworld;jurov does, as well as wao, as well as me. But none of us is selling. 1316007;1446662045;Namworld;The sale will have to go through jurov & wao anyway 1316008;1446662127;pete_dushenski;!gettrust wao 1316009;1446662127;assbot;Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user wao: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=wao | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/wao/ 1316010;1446662129;jurov;right 1316011;1446662183;mike_c;You each have 20%? Are these "voting" shares or silent-partner type? 1316012;1446662190;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski, thestringpuller: the reason i was considering ~not~ keeping a node on my desk is the realization that, if this kind of thing carries on, it cannot really be considered a respectable node. 1316013;1446662217;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315891 < missed this; i had a few unrelated gigs which allowed me to be free but not rich 1316014;1446662217;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:29:23; pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: and what did you do pre-btc ? 1316015;1446662261;asciilifeform;kakobrekla was then rich 1316016;1446662264;asciilifeform;per my standards. 1316017;1446662281;kakobrekla;barrel rich. 1316018;1446662293;pete_dushenski;kakobrekla: no worries, i thought mebbe it was sooper sekrit. but really, no finance background ? 1316019;1446662330;pete_dushenski;u.s. 'hood rich' = e.u. 'barrel rich' 1316020;1446662350;kakobrekla;no, no finance background. 1316021;1446662529;Namworld;No, we don't all have 20%. And these are non-voting shares 1316022;1446662591;Namworld;Although jurov and wao will consider any input/advice you give, they take the decisions. 1316023;1446662742;ben_vulpes;Namworld: it's painful to watch people dragging these details out of you. is there a signed operating agreement in place people can look at somewhere? 1316024;1446662743;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ? 1316025;1446662743;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1316026;1446662783;ben_vulpes;pete_dushenski has it with the elusive negation 1316027;1446662821;jurov;ben_vulpes there is not anything gpg signed. there was agreement with scrat, but he went mia 1316028;1446662852;ben_vulpes;oh jeez. 1316029;1446662861;jurov;we will draft it if anyone has serious interest 1316030;1446662884;ben_vulpes;well i'm not but damn this is going to be an expensive price discovery exercise without contracts. 1316031;1446662960;pete_dushenski;http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too 1316032;1446662961;assbot;Altwork Station | The new way to work ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmSARf ) 1316033;1446662996;ben_vulpes;everyone's in the wot (right?) so it should work itself out eventually, but this is an interesting example of how gpgconomy works in contrast to the fiat contracting system. 1316034;1446663013;*;asciilifeform would like input from his WoT re: what is the correct thing to do with obvious usg honeytrapping as described earlier. 1316035;1446663037;ben_vulpes;yes, you're all in the wot, so no need for contracts, they're unenforceable anyways. that said, without formalized business relationships, pricing the paper's...complicated. 1316036;1446663058;pete_dushenski;jurov: my guess is that your approach is backwards. should have gpg signed statement FIRST, then serious interest follows 1316037;1446663059;ben_vulpes;like how many non voting shares? how many voting shares? who can issue more shares, and under what conditions? 1316038;1446663073;jurov;no shares 1316039;1446663081;jurov;but you're right 1316040;1446663101;ben_vulpes;and that's just 3 questions that should be wrapped up neatly in the operating agreement. 1316041;1446663190;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: keep 'em. 1316042;1446663195;kakobrekla;asciilifeform but does usg really need to honeytrap ? as far as i get it, there is no need for such customs. 1316043;1446663199;pete_dushenski;"Magnets keep all your computer equipment in place, and it moves with you as you change positions. So even while you recline, your monitor and keyboard are proportionally placed for you to continue working." << re: altwork thingie. fuck magnets. give me screws and anchors ! 1316044;1446663200;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: shrem. 1316045;1446663214;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: how does shrem relate? 1316046;1446663261;mike_c;he went to jail? 1316047;1446663265;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: usg algo is, as i understand: 1) pick a fella who needs to have problems 2) steer known scum to his $thing 3) have it be established that he knows of (2) 4) pick him up as a thieves' fence 1316048;1446663301;kakobrekla;i thought it was 1) pick up the fella 2) fuck him up 1316049;1446663304;ben_vulpes;what precisely is your concern, though? relaying of 3vil t3rrist txns? 1316050;1446663320;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: solution : go kazcynski on their ass 1316051;1446663331;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: the 'card-ok' fella insisted on being obvious as daylight 1316052;1446663332;ben_vulpes;shrem was out and out breaking the law 1316053;1446663343;asciilifeform;and i doubt that he ended up on my box by pure accident. 1316054;1446663348;kakobrekla;but anyway, if you dont feel like running a node from home, you should not do it. 1316055;1446663351;asciilifeform;(it is not an ultra-high-bandwidth node) 1316056;1446663356;asciilifeform;problem is that i fucking need a node. 1316057;1446663384;asciilifeform;and i don't own an impregnable castle where i can leave a machine going. 1316058;1446663388;pete_dushenski;obligatory kaczynski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/03/hits-and-misses-of-ted-the-unabomber-kaczynski/ 1316059;1446663390;assbot;Hits and misses of Ted “The Unabomber” Kaczynski. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktc5vZ ) 1316060;1446663452;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: how did you get from mocking "omg my packetz" to "omg my packetz"? 1316061;1446663460;*;pete_dushenski off to the races. ciao ! 1316062;1446663597;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: partly it is because i have a personal hatred of ph0rum sp4mz0r l337 d00dz 1316063;1446663665;asciilifeform;they bring usg with them wherever they go. the way rats bring plague. 1316064;1446663775;ben_vulpes;so boot 'em 1316065;1446663788;ben_vulpes;that's a sane argument 1316066;1446663823;Namworld;There's no share, just a stake in %. No share dilution as of now. Dilution could appear in the form of allowing investments on the site like other dice site where you can stake the bankroll. Although this would in no way be absolute/permanent. 1316067;1446663835;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: prolly gonna turn this thing into a gossipd-style whitelisted node soon. 1316068;1446663862;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: aside from stoolies, stooges, and other vermin, i elementarily lack the bandwidth to service the demand (and there is now again - demand) 1316069;1446663886;asciilifeform;but i will also note, when mircea_popescu tells us 'get the everliving fuck out of usa' he has perfectly good reasons for this. 1316070;1446663890;Namworld;Not sure how the transfer would be done, but I'm sure jurov and wao will sign both payment address and amount for the offer and agreement of share ownership upon payment. 1316071;1446664021;Namworld;As for Coinroll's stats and data, it's always been available publicly for download. 1316072;1446664313;ben_vulpes;Namworld: I'm sure you see the problem with statements-in-the-log-as-operating-agreement 1316073;1446664380;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: neat! ganbatte. 1316074;1446664440;Namworld;Yes, that's why am saying it can all be signed properly prior to purchase occuring. 1316075;1446664463;Namworld;I just wanted to let it known as I don't think that other guy advertised it around much. 1316076;1446665120;kakobrekla;asciilifeform if not sekrit, which hw raid cards do you use/like? 1316077;1446665154;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: pretty old '3ware' 1316078;1446665171;*;kakobrekla currently fuming over hp p410 1316079;1446665196;asciilifeform;the old-fashioned kind, with 64-bit pci (not pcie) 1316080;1446665206;asciilifeform;pretty cheap secondhand, too. 1316081;1446665211;kakobrekla;myea 1316082;1446665243;asciilifeform;configured with an open source command line thing 1316083;1446665252;asciilifeform;can also flash in own fw if you have a favourite. 1316084;1446665355;*;asciilifeform fucking hates 'software raid' in any and all forms 1316085;1446665455;asciilifeform;incidentally hardware raid utterly annihilates (if used correctly - that is, for striping rather than mirroring) all known and unknown 'hdd firmware diddles' 1316086;1446665487;asciilifeform;this is, naturally, at the cost of introducing another closed turd boot rom. 1316087;1446665495;asciilifeform;BUT the latter is an x86 blob and is trivially disassembled 1316088;1446665497;asciilifeform;unlike hdd fw. 1316089;1446665537;asciilifeform;i made the tradeoff with the full understanding that it was a tradeoff. 1316090;1446665936;asciilifeform;https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320651-germany-refugees-crisis-bavaria << lulzy. esp. for jurov. 1316091;1446665936;assbot;Migrant crisis pushing Germany towards ‘anarchy and civil war’ — RT Op-Edge ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktimYu ) 1316092;1446665983;asciilifeform;and for mircea_popescu, https://www.rt.com/usa/320767-sniper-san-diego-police 1316093;1446665984;assbot;Sniper in San Diego pins down police near airport, Zoo — RT USA ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktiw26 ) 1316094;1446666022;jurov;please find anything other than rt. anything. 1316095;1446666049;jurov;even xinhua is miles better than rt 1316096;1446666050;asciilifeform;jurov: largely consists of twatter screencaps 1316097;1446666064;asciilifeform;of course it is possible that putin personally fakes these, aha. 1316098;1446666123;asciilifeform;jurov: this kind of thing is arranged every time usg needs to ban another type of gun. 1316099;1446666845;asciilifeform;'After weeks of waiting to get registered with Berlin authorities, a group of refugees and migrants have sued Berlins main refugee center for failing to grant their asylum benefits on time, which they were promised when Germany took them in.' << lulz 1316100;1446667786;trinque;asciilifeform: along the lines of the problems with your node, deedbot- now routinely gets orphans and nothing else blasted at it from various IPs, and will at times not be able to reach the node mircea_popescu gave, though I am not presently certain why 1316101;1446667803;trinque;currently it is trying to catch up from the last orphan ass blasting by feeding from mp's node 1316102;1446667887;trinque;and I have given that IP via -connect which unfortunately will keep it from being of use to anyone else 1316103;1446667997;trinque;two things there: one I think I will begin looking into the connect vs addnode tangle this weekend, as it's affecting the proper functioning of the deedbot- 1316104;1446668021;trinque;and two, I would like to move the hosting of the thing off AWS if anyone can recommend a friendlier host 1316105;1446668053;trinque;it would not be surprising to me at all that Amazon obediently fucks with the thing from within 1316106;1446668489;trinque;also, I span up bitcoind-0.5.4-beta last night and it began gagging on orphan blocks around 150k 1316107;1446668501;trinque;this was from a home connection. 1316108;1446668536;trinque;that one I'll restart later and see how it fares. 1316109;1446668563;trinque;if the walls have eyes, the tubes have apparently grown fingers 1316110;1446669934;asciilifeform;trinque: you are probably being blackholes. 1316111;1446669937;asciilifeform;*blackholed 1316112;1446669952;punkman;*cornholed 1316113;1446670025;asciilifeform;trinque: as for hosts, unfortunately i cannot recommend anything at all. 1316114;1446670037;asciilifeform;other than - possibly - mircea_popescu's coming-soon thing 1316115;1446670043;asciilifeform;supposing that it comes, and works 1316116;1446670053;asciilifeform;but it is likely to be expensive. 1316117;1446670127;trinque;it is munching on the IP from mp successfully for now 1316118;1446670293;ben_vulpes;i suspect that the operational protocol must be "one node for the network, one node for infrastructure" 1316119;1446670342;ben_vulpes;eg if you want to run a node for infrastructure, you should -connect it to a synced node -addnode'd to the network at large. 1316120;1446670557;trinque;really needs the wotnet to function properly, and this still doesn't fix black holing, just mitm 1316121;1446670569;trinque;needs wotnet-radio 1316122;1446670717;ben_vulpes;i'm still kindastonished the thing never had encrypted connections. 1316123;1446670800;ben_vulpes;funkenstein_: your ip is leaking 1316124;1446670866;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: how do you do encrypted connections without gossipd ? 1316125;1446670876;trinque;ben_vulpes: I'm glad the guy didn't just bolt ssl to the thing 1316126;1446670878;trinque;could've 1316127;1446670885;asciilifeform;trinque: hearn did ! 1316128;1446670900;trinque;big surprise 1316129;1446670935;punkman;can ssh tunnel to trusted nodes 1316130;1446670977;asciilifeform;people do this, yes. 1316131;1446670977;funkenstein_;thx. happy V day all 1316132;1446671109;funkenstein_;trinque: I don't know who they are but i have had some luck with bitcoincloud.eu vps 1316133;1446671148;asciilifeform;if anybody's gonna 'obediently fucks with the thing from within' it'll be a bitcoin-themed isp from somewhere far outside the wot. 1316134;1446671391;punkman;http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 lol 1316135;1446671393;assbot;From kafkatrap to honeytrap ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktx7KJ ) 1316136;1446671536;asciilifeform;'Linus is never alone at any conference. This is not because he lets fame go to his head and likes having a posse around. They have made multiple runs at him.' 1316137;1446671692;mike_c;I am not understanding this romanian mess.. what the hell does some fire in a club have to do with the PM 1316138;1446671819;asciilifeform;from the commentz: 'Why not honeytrap the honeytrappers with hidden audio/video recording devices? They might be illegal to use without consent in your jurisdiction, but then you need not reveal the recordings until you need to, and I dont think Arrest him for illegally recording evidence that proves my rape allegation was fake! would fly.' 1316139;1446671862;BingoBoingo;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315702 << Myself and MP. 1316140;1446671862;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 09:47:50; copypaste: Who took his place, if anyone? 1316141;1446671895;BingoBoingo;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315703 << Gotta watch the logs, but big transactions happen in deedbot 1316142;1446671895;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 09:47:56; copypaste: I find it odd this wasn't mentioned. 1316143;1446671982;asciilifeform;'This is SOP for STEM/Biz profs, too. Never be alone with female students. Never mentor them. Never supervise a graduate thesis. A bad review/grade turns into a sexual harassment claim far too easily.' 1316144;1446672714;BingoBoingo;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316024 << Don't have bong 1316145;1446672714;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:45:43; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ? 1316146;1446672749;*;asciilifeform misread as 'don't have dong' 1316147;1446672762;asciilifeform;which - perhaps - also would work 1316148;1446673236;BingoBoingo;lol 1316149;1446673317;BingoBoingo;My take on shrem though was the magazine profile where the reporter mentioned his smoking lamp out in the open made him irredeemably a "drug criminal" in the eyes of USG 1316150;1446673449;asciilifeform;it is why he 'had to have problems', rather than why he had problems 1316151;1446673452;asciilifeform;if this makes any sense 1316152;1446673465;asciilifeform;his public dope was an insult to the crown 1316153;1446673487;asciilifeform;an insult uttered in front of the cattle 1316154;1446674574;BingoBoingo;yes 1316155;1446675003;lobbes;in other lulz: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/04/lally-deamicis-brockton-quincy-elections/ 1316156;1446675004;assbot;Teen Candidates Win Elections In Brockton, Quincy « CBS Boston ... ( http://bit.ly/1LQsMe9 ) 1316157;1446675009;punkman;and what of the 100 million people smoking/selling dope openly on twitter,facebook,youtube,topix,etc 1316158;1446675016;punkman;not insult to crown? 1316159;1446675165;asciilifeform;punkman: roland freisler only has so many blocks on his calendar. 1316160;1446675330;shinohai;;;ticker 1316161;1446675334;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 416.56, Best ask: 416.57, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 416.0, 24 hour volume: 234623.51943093, 24 hour low: 396.89, 24 hour high: 504.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1316162;1446675358;shinohai;dat fall 1316163;1446675458;punkman;;;ticker --market all 1316164;1446675466;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.13, vol: 98522.50357252 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 419.555, vol: 49462.91604 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 234623.51943093 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 477.99, vol: 15.18921874 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 467.100624, vol: 125647.01910000 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 407.5875, vol: 769.35246699 | Volume-weighted last average: 431.784334787 1316165;1446675481;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1316166;1446675488;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.0, vol: 98532.00357252 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 418.0, vol: 49462.91604 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 422.78, vol: 234623.51943093 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 477.99, vol: 15.18921874 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 470.439672, vol: 125652.90920000 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 396.7185, vol: 769.40217199 | Volume-weighted last average: 433.890911628 1316167;1446675498;shinohai;kek 1316168;1446676281;BingoBoingo;It seems this current volatility is a delayed response to drama season. I predict moar wild swings as all this pent up drama acts on Bitcoin price after having been suppressed so long 1316169;1446676495;jurov;lol, bitcoin is ccoming out of the closet? 1316170;1446676581;BingoBoingo;Prolly 1316171;1446676716;BingoBoingo;Not even wrong http://blocksize.org/contra.html 1316172;1446676718;assbot;Blocksize BIP 103 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WwRYhJ ) 1316173;1446676743;BingoBoingo;WTF now rejecting BIPs is its own BIP 1316174;1446677896;deedbot-;[Qntra] Fox Lake "Hero" Officer Accused of Suicide and Embezzlement - http://qntra.net/2015/11/fox-lake-hero-officer-accused-of-suicide-and-embezzlement/ 1316175;1446678228;asciilifeform;!up imposter 1316176;1446678235;imposter;hello 1316177;1446678244;imposter;is this the trollbox? 1316178;1446678258;BingoBoingo;It is a Trollbox 1316179;1446678260;asciilifeform;nah this is the lolbox 1316180;1446678261;BingoBoingo;https://archive.is/QUus5 1316181;1446678262;assbot;Please don't "fat shame" in catbellies : catbellies ... ( http://bit.ly/1WwUZ1B ) 1316182;1446678301;BingoBoingo;"While we can all agree that pet obesity is a problem, and obviously not healthy for our feline friends, please refrain from commenting here about it. Users have been banned, and I hate having to do it. So please don't make me." 1316183;1446678314;BingoBoingo;!up r0kit 1316184;1446678314;shinohai;srsly 1316185;1446678318;imposter;how can i bitcoin 1316186;1446678326;BingoBoingo;Sharpie in pooper? 1316187;1446678331;shinohai;hue 1316188;1446678338;imposter;how can to blockchain 1316189;1446678352;imposter;waht do private keyy 1316190;1446678352;BingoBoingo;;;google they really are buttcoins nao 1316191;1446678353;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; February 2013 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; Bitcoin on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: 1316192;1446678356;r0kit;hi all 1316193;1446678367;imposter;sup f3kit 1316194;1446678395;r0kit;free fallin is up 1316195;1446678488;jurov;or write code on ur manboobs 1316196;1446678524;shinohai;Classic BingoBoingo .... I thought I remembered you getting someone to do sharpie-in-bunghole on CC one night. 1316197;1446678660;imposter;r0kit are we rich yet? 1316198;1446678696;BingoBoingo;shinohai: I didn't start it, hanbot did on bitcointalk 1316199;1446678753;shinohai;Is there anything hanbot can't do? 1316200;1446678947;asciilifeform;!down imposter 1316201;1446678950;asciilifeform;!down r0kit 1316202;1446679129;mircea_popescu;!ticker 1316203;1446679129;assbot;Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? 1316204;1446679133;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 1316205;1446679142;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.98, Best ask: 399.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 398.77, 24 hour volume: 261789.41865278, 24 hour low: 366.66, 24 hour high: 504.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1316206;1446679149;mircea_popescu;o hey back to 400 ? 1316207;1446679154;mircea_popescu;what a day. 1316208;1446679165;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform say wut ? 1316209;1446679183;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: see thread 1316210;1446679193;mircea_popescu;mk will be a moment. 1316211;1446679199;asciilifeform;short ver: prolly my overactive imagination 1316212;1446679255;*;asciilifeform spent more or less his entire free time in the past 2 wks reverse-engineering and auditing gpg, incl. compiled binaries. this has a certain effect on the soul. 1316213;1446679286;shinohai;relax and have some tea or something. sheesh. 1316214;1446679303;asciilifeform;shinohai: how could any of it be done without tea 1316215;1446679331;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315850 << kinda how the shittrain is ordered currently, but seems far from optimal. 1316216;1446679331;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:14:50; trinque: asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end? 1316217;1446679367;asciilifeform;^ can't accept incoming sockets if you -connect 1316218;1446679399;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a) no depressed is ever logical ; b) no depressed ever admits to this. 1316219;1446679418;*;asciilifeform powerless in the face of this magic 1316220;1446679527;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315896 << what's mk ? 1316221;1446679527;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:30:46; kakobrekla: move to MK, rent a flat for 100 bux, a better one than my ex barrel. 1316222;1446679543;mircea_popescu;oh nm. 1316223;1446679561;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315904 << among them, vin diesel. 1316224;1446679561;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:35:49; asciilifeform: we have a kind of 'barrel' in usa - there is a caste of folks who live in converted 'trailers' 1316225;1446679640;asciilifeform;and marie antoinette lived in a peasant hutch, aha. 1316226;1446679708;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315946 << the notion that those matter is obscene. 1316227;1446679708;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:00:34; asciilifeform: and for every brian micon that needs to be tried for 'illegal bitcoining' you have 1,001 schmucks who were afraid to even read about it because 'they log my packetz' 1316228;1446679749;shinohai;I have tinfoil over mah ethernet cables, I'm safe. 1316229;1446679750;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: they don't matter outside of the leprosorium, no 1316230;1446679757;mircea_popescu;or inside. 1316231;1446679758;asciilifeform;but i happen to be inside. 1316232;1446679772;mircea_popescu;who the fuck cares what derpy popcollar aspie[rational] mba does or doesn't do. 1316233;1446679806;mircea_popescu;hey, i like that. aspie[rational]. it describes so very much, from the bayesian pseudoscientards to web analytics derps. 1316234;1446679866;asciilifeform;elsewhere i noted the example of hobby chemistry - where also it seemed that 'how could it possibly matter what derpy kids dare or don't dare to do, and whether they can get ingredients' but it turned out to. 1316235;1446679876;asciilifeform;as in, the whole field pretty much died - at least on this side of the atlantic 1316236;1446679920;ben_vulpes;http://matrix.org/ 1316237;1446679921;assbot;Matrix.org | A new basis for open, distributed, real-time communication ... ( http://bit.ly/1WARu56 ) 1316238;1446679931;mircea_popescu;next i'm gonna read about how the us mattered scientifically at some point in its history ? 1316239;1446679951;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: ick 1316240;1446679973;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: go on... 1316241;1446679974;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: very briefly, 1870-1970 or so. 1316242;1446679986;shinohai;protonmail still under ddos hue 1316243;1446679994;mircea_popescu;re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time. 1316244;1446679995;BingoBoingo;* asciilifeform powerless in the face of this magic << Serenity to accept the things that cannot change, courage to change the things that can, wisdom to know the difference (TM)(R) 1316245;1446680004;mircea_popescu;the solutions proposed aren't very good, but this does not make the problem go away 1316246;1446680025;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i fail to see it as anything other than john smithing. 1316247;1446680034;mircea_popescu;to me he's the archetypical ustardian scientist. 1316248;1446680049;mircea_popescu;"translating" "ancient egyptian" with rocks in a hat. 1316249;1446680070;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: tricky bit. the folks who mattered (nick t., o. lilienfeld - semiconductor, the lot) weren't u.s. bred 1316250;1446680075;asciilifeform;but they did their thing there, because cheap moneyz. 1316251;1446680075;mircea_popescu;quite. 1316252;1446680098;mircea_popescu;to that sort of thing, there isn't a there. 1316253;1446680102;mircea_popescu;there only is a who. 1316254;1446680119;*;asciilifeform to the extent he is good for anything, isn't really a product of usa either 1316255;1446680126;mircea_popescu;which is why the republic doesn't (and currently shouldn't) be a place. 1316256;1446680128;mircea_popescu;it should be a who. 1316257;1446680138;asciilifeform;still gotta park the whos somewhere. 1316258;1446680142;mircea_popescu;not so. 1316259;1446680151;mircea_popescu;gotta park the hos anywhere. 1316260;1446680159;mircea_popescu;that's a chief point on the ho training schedule. 1316261;1446680170;BingoBoingo;!b 4 1316262;1446680171;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/07M8JR5.txt ) 1316263;1446680320;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316243 << at one point (see old logz) i came very close to solving this. basic idea is to set up a dynamic equilibrium situation where anyone who deviates from correct wallclock time becomes prey in proportion to this deviation. 1316264;1446680320;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 23:33:14; mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time. 1316265;1446680321;mircea_popescu;anyway, why are we even discussing the nlocktime thing ? lot of version 4 blocks or what ? 1316266;1446680334;asciilifeform;but unfortunately i have not the time and energy to flesh this out into a working mechanism 1316267;1446680346;mircea_popescu;the best thing you can do for it is to get the pogo ready to go. 1316268;1446680346;*;asciilifeform ^ ought to have an abbreviation for the above. 1316269;1446680353;mircea_popescu;we aren't relaying nonconformant blocks. 1316270;1446680367;*;asciilifeform sure as fuck won't be 1316271;1446680379;mircea_popescu;this is not the same thing. 1316272;1446680429;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315984 << this is inept policy. the correct move is not to care. 1316273;1446680429;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:20:23; asciilifeform: so into iptables it goes. 1316274;1446680442;mircea_popescu;if you care, then the argument is why do you care about this but not thatr, and sooner or later you won't notice one. 1316275;1446680446;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i realized this when it was too late. 1316276;1446680451;asciilifeform;and i had already mentioned it. 1316277;1446680453;mircea_popescu;ask first, act after. 1316278;1446680455;mircea_popescu;k 1316279;1446680466;mircea_popescu;my god these strawberries are great. 1316280;1446680502;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315996 << lmao you don't understand how the world works. 1316281;1446680502;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:27:40; asciilifeform: i insist on being shot for high treason rather than for somehow associating with spamming scum. 1316282;1446680522;mircea_popescu;treasonous nsa subdirectorate head got done for "killing people" the [meanwhile deceased] chief of police killed. 1316283;1446680547;mircea_popescu;you're a weirdo, so my money's on you going for "sex crimes". 1316284;1446680557;*;asciilifeform will have to study hard for this one 1316285;1446680562;BingoBoingo;Let us not forget unsolvable police killing becomes suicide of disgrace http://qntra.net/2015/11/fox-lake-hero-officer-accused-of-suicide-and-embezzlement/ 1316286;1446680563;assbot;Fox Lake "Hero" Officer Accused of Suicide and Embezzlement | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMjHUI ) 1316287;1446680575;mircea_popescu;lmao accused of suicide 1316288;1446680587;BingoBoingo;Seriously 1316289;1446680597;mircea_popescu;that place is so lulzy... 1316290;1446680598;BingoBoingo;accused of suicide 1316291;1446680606;BingoBoingo;Tis a felony here 1316292;1446680615;BingoBoingo;Not attempting, but succeeding 1316293;1446680616;asciilifeform;l0l do they help finish ya off 1316294;1446680616;mircea_popescu;like it was in spain. 1316295;1446680643;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Nope, just shuttle you to the trailer living caste 1316296;1446680656;*;shinohai is a proponent of legal euthanasia. 1316297;1446680676;asciilifeform;shinohai: all of us has legal euthanasia. just point a pen knife at a cop. 1316298;1446680703;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316024 <<< ahahaha what! 1316299;1446680703;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:45:43; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ? 1316300;1446680711;shinohai;I prefer wine laced with hemlock but whatevs. 1316301;1446680716;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this was in reference to the carder episode 1316302;1446680719;mircea_popescu;the "thread" isn't a thread nor does it make it any clearer. what magic talismans are you asking of ? 1316303;1446680727;mircea_popescu;i still don';t get it. 1316304;1446680735;asciilifeform;none, realized the correct answer at the end. 1316305;1446680739;mircea_popescu;aite. 1316306;1446680774;shinohai;Anyoone ever notice te striking resemblnce between Gavin & Porky Pig ? 1316307;1446680779;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316029 <<< i have a faint recollection of the thing being in this "we'll draft it" position before and magically not getting drafted. 1316308;1446680779;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:47:41; jurov: we will draft it if anyone has serious interest 1316309;1446680846;BingoBoingo;http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature16057.html << Note they decline to identify the antiboitic in the conjugate without paying for the paper, leaving open the possibility one of the many agents more effective than vancomycin was used. 1316310;1446680847;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMk9SW ) 1316311;1446680879;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316034 << a) get out of the us. now. shut the rationalizations, i really don't want to hear them, there's no excuse ; b) make a pile of dead droppable content ; c) surround yourself with angry people with guns, bonus points if female. 1316312;1446680879;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:50:13; *: asciilifeform would like input from his WoT re: what is the correct thing to do with obvious usg honeytrapping as described earlier. 1316313;1446680881;mircea_popescu;in that order. 1316314;1446680884;BingoBoingo;WOrthless abstract 1316315;1446680898;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you forgot: the broomstick. 1316316;1446680912;asciilifeform;which i suppose is d) 1316317;1446680928;mircea_popescu;as v.i.lenin said, people who get involved in revolutions best learn to like prison food. 1316318;1446680946;mircea_popescu;i think it was in http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/ 1316319;1446680947;assbot;Cine se casatoreste... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMkmWp ) 1316320;1446680977;asciilifeform;in all fairness, the prison lenin sat in was a joke compared to present-day 1316321;1446680982;asciilifeform;you could just up and walk out. 1316322;1446681045;mircea_popescu;anyway, in the general, this is the closed form life equation of people doing something worthwhile : they have a terrible time as kids because their parents are idiots ; they get fucking stampeded as adults, because people are lazy ; they get all the accolades, moneys and bitches when they're old, because it doesn't do anything for them anymore (thus it's finally safe) ; once they're dead they get to be the face sellin 1316323;1446681045;mircea_popescu;g whatever stupid shit, because they can no longer protest. 1316324;1446681069;asciilifeform;sop. 1316325;1446681085;mircea_popescu;not likely to change for you. 1316326;1446681097;*;asciilifeform has a very special loathing for 'tesla' car, solely on account of the name abuse 1316327;1446681103;mircea_popescu;fine example. 1316328;1446681122;asciilifeform;there is, i regret to say, also an 'intel edison' (small pc thing) 1316329;1446681126;mircea_popescu;they had a bullshit college in ro, which yielded http://trilema.com/2009/n-am-putea-sa-avem-si-noi/ 1316330;1446681127;assbot;N-am putea sa avem si noi on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMkDbM ) 1316331;1446681134;asciilifeform;and there was even an 'nvidia tesla' gpu card. 1316332;1446681144;asciilifeform;let's not forget galois corporation 1316333;1446681146;mircea_popescu;(rthere should be an office to approve usage of names for purposes, consisting of a clerk with a REJECTED stamp) 1316334;1446681167;asciilifeform;i could carry on, but why. 1316335;1446681228;asciilifeform;most don't get to stage 3 though. 1316336;1446681247;asciilifeform;just skip straight to dead. 1316337;1446681355;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316047 <<< this is such a deep misrepresentation of the shrem thing as to boggle the mind. 1316338;1446681355;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:54:25; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usg algo is, as i understand: 1) pick a fella who needs to have problems 2) steer known scum to his $thing 3) have it be established that he knows of (2) 4) pick him up as a thieves' fence 1316339;1446681370;*;asciilifeform will admit that he did not closely follow the case 1316340;1446681380;mircea_popescu;do you actually know what happened there and deliberately misrepresent or do you just use in your thought process things you understand at fishwrap level ? 1316341;1446681391;mircea_popescu;well looky here! why are you using things you don't know! 1316342;1446681402;asciilifeform;because i have 36 hands and they're all full ? 1316343;1446681407;mircea_popescu;do you program like this too ? "fuck knows what this function does but the name seems to have the right number of vowels" ? 1316344;1446681410;mircea_popescu;!up Cristina 1316345;1446681413;mircea_popescu;this is not an excuse. 1316346;1446681419;mircea_popescu;if you can't do something right don't do it. 1316347;1446681431;asciilifeform;sometimes it tries to do me, however. 1316348;1446681436;mircea_popescu;so ? 1316349;1446681488;mircea_popescu;derp conspired with some other derp to break the very promises he made in writing to the usg! 1316350;1446681502;mircea_popescu;how many degrees of separation is this ? didja sign a promise to the usg to police the blockchain ? 1316351;1446681503;asciilifeform;iirc it went something like 'shrem sold a candybar to dpr while knowing what dpr did' 1316352;1446681508;mircea_popescu;mno. 1316353;1446681515;*;asciilifeform goes and reads. 1316354;1446681537;mircea_popescu;shrem registered as a money transmitter, and named himself as the agent in charge of making sure ustardation is implemented. 1316355;1446681559;mircea_popescu;then shrem met some derp at a bar and they came up with a plan which consisted of shrem not noticing the derp is doing the opposite 1316356;1446681565;mircea_popescu;then the derp told on him. 1316357;1446681571;asciilifeform;i think i realized what i did here 1316358;1446681576;asciilifeform;confused the florida fool for shrem 1316359;1446681581;asciilifeform;what was that one's name... 1316360;1446681591;mircea_popescu;who, the death&taxes dude ? 1316361;1446681615;BingoBoingo;Gerland I thought wasn't florida, but Shrem had a florida dude 1316362;1446681628;asciilifeform;http://qntra.net/2014/12/judge-rejects-florida-mans-bid-to-dismiss-case << this one, i think 1316363;1446681629;assbot;Judge Rejects Florida Man's Bid to Dismiss Case | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMllFU ) 1316364;1446681687;*;mircea_popescu shrug 1316365;1446681692;mircea_popescu;typical "do not live in the us" fodder. 1316366;1446681719;asciilifeform;no shortage of this, mircea_popescu 1316367;1446681720;mircea_popescu;could get "caught" in a "sting" for selling a used fridge for 525 dollars 1316368;1446681727;asciilifeform;i fully expect to. 1316369;1446681784;mircea_popescu;supermarkets here want to see id for cash payments over ~100 dollars. everyone else pays you a discount because well, they don't actually report/pay the tax. 1316370;1446681804;asciilifeform;wai wat 1316371;1446681805;mircea_popescu;incomprehensibly, a few people still use the supermarkets. 1316372;1446681805;asciilifeform;where?! 1316373;1446681810;asciilifeform;in ar ? 1316374;1446681814;mircea_popescu;everywhere ? yeah. 1316375;1446681819;asciilifeform;l0l!! 1316376;1446681826;asciilifeform;turns out usa is 'land of ze phreeedom' 1316377;1446681831;asciilifeform;no id for cash. 1316378;1446681835;asciilifeform;spend a whole sack. 1316379;1446681860;asciilifeform;(just don't be found with it at traffic stop) 1316380;1446681864;mircea_popescu;i love it, really. it's basically a tax on supermarkets. 1316381;1446681897;mircea_popescu;(but ftr, china is land of the freedom. they actually and specifically do not do any of the aml bs.) 1316382;1446681923;asciilifeform;let's try a phun experiment: 1316383;1446681927;asciilifeform;;;google m_debug gpg never worked 1316384;1446681928;gribble;Using the GNU Privacy Guard: GPG Configuration Options - GnuPG: ; gpg manpage - GnuPG: ; Using the GNU Privacy Guard: GPG Esoteric Options - GnuPG: 1316385;1446681936;mircea_popescu;here's a tidbit : all "named" banks actually operate under license, separately. because the chinese will strangle you if you actually send info over. 1316386;1446681945;asciilifeform;hm. from my ip it ends in on log.b-a 1316387;1446681947;mircea_popescu;and so the westerners are too petrified by the double whammy, and can't operate themselves. 1316388;1446681976;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i see what gribble sees. 1316389;1446681989;asciilifeform;unsurprise. 1316390;1446682024;*;asciilifeform collected five versions of gpg, not in one is the thing actually implemented 1316391;1446682055;asciilifeform;ergo the last time anyone could have easily tested the allocator is - at the very latest - 1997 1316392;1446682062;asciilifeform;supposing it were ever tested 1316393;1446682088;asciilifeform;and (and i could go on and on) the thing is implemented in a profoundly braindamaged way 1316394;1446682112;asciilifeform;as a kind of reimplementation of malloc that... uses malloc internally for the segments ! 1316395;1446682133;asciilifeform;how hard would it have been to allot a static buffer at warmup ?!!!!! 1316396;1446682160;asciilifeform;how easy it would have been to bitwalk it (like the braindead 'secmem' thing in gpg insists on doing PER SEGMENT !!?!!!) 1316397;1446682163;mircea_popescu;you're not trying to argue that gpg is to be replaced are you ? 1316398;1446682175;asciilifeform;i'm trying to salvage what is salvageable. 1316399;1446682188;asciilifeform;and the answer turns out to be 'precious little' 1316400;1446682193;mircea_popescu;aite. nothing wrong with putting the many warts in the log, either 1316401;1446682198;mircea_popescu;just, you sound so indignantly surprised. 1316402;1446682219;asciilifeform;i cannot help but be surprised when i encounter, in the old words of ben_vulpes, 'clown cars glued to a spinning ceiling' 1316403;1446682262;asciilifeform;someone worked astonishingly hard to make this thing a nearly-incomprehensible morass. 1316404;1446682379;asciilifeform;incidentally - there is a very convenient 1-byte flag, that, if 'poked', will instantly cause gpg to use ordinary (paged) memory. 1316405;1446682415;asciilifeform;this is AT RUNTIME 1316406;1446682416;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316085 << not so. 1316407;1446682416;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 19:30:55; asciilifeform: incidentally hardware raid utterly annihilates (if used correctly - that is, for striping rather than mirroring) all known and unknown 'hdd firmware diddles' 1316408;1446682424;mircea_popescu;people tend to use the same exact hdd in raid 1316409;1446682447;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: and how is one to conspire with the others ? 1316410;1446682456;asciilifeform;if each holds a reed-solomon stripe 1316411;1446682462;asciilifeform;let's say there are 4 of'em. 1316412;1446682481;mircea_popescu;i suppose i should have said "not necessarily" 1316413;1446682490;asciilifeform;which is why i said 'when used correctly' 1316414;1446682495;mircea_popescu;aha. yea. 1316415;1446682548;asciilifeform;but yes, if the disks 'know' (somehow) that you have a raid-5 of n disks, using a particular controller, they could, e.g., 'agree' to return a patched boot sector. 1316416;1446682570;asciilifeform;but they must know without fail. otherwise the offending disk gets thrown out. 1316417;1446682584;mircea_popescu;not like this doesn't happen 1316418;1446682593;mircea_popescu;think about it.,.. well, i dunno how much experience you have with it, but 1316419;1446682610;mircea_popescu;"fail new disk" error rate seems to be 5 to 10x higher in raid setups than in solo setups. 1316420;1446682612;mircea_popescu;.... why ? 1316421;1446682630;asciilifeform;because a solo will happily carry on with a rotten disk ? 1316422;1446682634;asciilifeform;how's he to know 1316423;1446682647;asciilifeform;a solo disk doesn't get thrown out, typically, until it begins to smoke 1316424;1446682653;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 1316425;1446682686;asciilifeform;raid also tends to be used by folks who run boxes 24/7, and hot 1316426;1446682692;asciilifeform;which brings out the duds. 1316427;1446682733;asciilifeform;another thing is that the drives usually share power rail and one can cascade-kill the rest 1316428;1446682735;shinohai;see bitcointalk going down every 2 weeks for an example of shitty raid configs. 1316429;1446682745;asciilifeform;(it is an inductive load, thinkaboutit) 1316430;1446682771;mircea_popescu;says Hansjoerg Mueller of the Alternative for Germany party. 1316431;1446682773;mircea_popescu;ahahah.\ 1316432;1446682807;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform inductive ? not for ssds, no ? 1316433;1446682812;asciilifeform;no. 1316434;1446682821;asciilifeform;mechanicals. 1316435;1446682833;asciilifeform;ssds are, as a general rule, made of old toilet paper, however. 1316436;1446682836;asciilifeform;(or may as well be) 1316437;1446682902;BingoBoingo;for the cockroachologists: "The Patriots tight end claimed in a recent published memoir -- which he totally wrote all by himself -- that he has yet to touch one dime of his signing bonus or NFL contract money and that everything he has been spending has come from endorsements." http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/156348992/rob-gronkowski-money-advice-gronkonomics 1316438;1446682903;assbot;Rob Gronkowski offers financial tips ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMn4v0 ) 1316439;1446682927;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316103 << code to properly handle the republic's own nodes would be a good move forward. 1316440;1446682927;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 20:13:17; trinque: two things there: one I think I will begin looking into the connect vs addnode tangle this weekend, as it's affecting the proper functioning of the deedbot- 1316441;1446682941;mircea_popescu;i think you probably recall the design discussions for this ? 1316442;1446682971;asciilifeform;the most basic thing would be to permit a static nodelist. 1316443;1446682978;asciilifeform;(snarfed up at warmup) 1316444;1446682996;asciilifeform;with the selector respecting ordering. 1316445;1446683006;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 1316446;1446683011;gribble;Current Blocks: 382088 | Current Difficulty: 6.225398244976082E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 383039 | Next Difficulty In: 951 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 22 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 1316447;1446683024;mircea_popescu;i'm up to date, 105 connections. 1316448;1446683039;mircea_popescu;a ton of orphan blasting, looking through the logs, but they don't actually do anything to me. 1316449;1446683090;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316104 << sadly, no. 1316450;1446683090;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 20:13:41; trinque: and two, I would like to move the hosting of the thing off AWS if anyone can recommend a friendlier host 1316451;1446683113;mircea_popescu;finding a solution to the hosting problem, a ~correct~ solution is actually higher priority than anything else atm. 1316452;1446683116;jurov;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316307 it was drafted and submitted to mpex and havelock, that did not work out, so we just coasted on. 1316453;1446683116;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 23:46:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316029 <<< i have a faint recollection of the thing being in this "we'll draft it" position before and magically not getting drafted. 1316454;1446683135;mircea_popescu;but pretty much the only thing western kids wanna do is derp with webdev ; and the eastern kids wanna polish the kalash. 1316455;1446683140;asciilifeform;btw bucephalus up for 44 days contiguous 1316456;1446683141;mircea_popescu;nobody wants to do anything useful. 1316457;1446683143;asciilifeform;46 conns 1316458;1446683168;*;asciilifeform wants useful but there is only one of him 1316459;1446683186;mircea_popescu;eh dun take it personally, i'm talking of everyone else. 1316460;1446683189;asciilifeform;l0l 1316461;1446683191;mircea_popescu;"if you don't read it - it's for you" 1316462;1446683206;*;asciilifeform mildly surprised that bucephalus has not exhausted memory quite yet 1316463;1446683223;asciilifeform;but it is very close. 1316464;1446683308;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316132 << mno. 1316465;1446683308;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 21:05:09; funkenstein_: trinque: I don't know who they are but i have had some luck with bitcoincloud.eu vps 1316466;1446683309;asciilifeform;b. has 4G of addressable ram. it is approx. the size of a hardcover book, and lives in a locked cage. 1316467;1446683326;mircea_popescu;derpy resellers are right out. machines in natoland are right out. derps unable/unwilling to wot are right out. etc. 1316468;1446683345;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform cage where ? 1316469;1446683368;asciilifeform;usa. 1316470;1446683388;asciilifeform;in a run-down part of town. office, not datacentre. 1316471;1446683401;mircea_popescu;mk 1316472;1446683409;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316137 << MOOOO 1316473;1446683409;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 21:14:52; mike_c: I am not understanding this romanian mess.. what the hell does some fire in a club have to do with the PM 1316474;1446683416;asciilifeform;whole thing services by ancient 10mb link 1316475;1446683420;asciilifeform;*serviced 1316476;1446683499;mircea_popescu;http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 << certainly. this is how stupid women go for attention, ever since 6th grade. 1316477;1446683502;assbot;From kafkatrap to honeytrap ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktx7KJ ) 1316478;1446683512;mircea_popescu;a society that doesn't bitchslap them opens itself to this sort of gunkification. 1316479;1446683604;mircea_popescu;a very simple solution is, "never fuck newbies without at least one slavegirl participating" 1316480;1446683615;mircea_popescu;but i can foresee alf going "broomstick" at me. 1316481;1446683632;mircea_popescu;yet it's not my fault the models you all learned as children are constructed to serve your society, not your own needs and interests. 1316482;1446683642;mircea_popescu;learn better models or drone on, whatevs. 1316483;1446683652;asciilifeform;better model often asks one to die 1316484;1446683657;BingoBoingo;Nah, makes perfect sense you gotta bring your own orgy to the one night stand 1316485;1446683658;mircea_popescu;always. 1316486;1446683663;asciilifeform;because - elementarily - not room for many mircea_popescu on one planet. 1316487;1446683679;mircea_popescu;better model; always asks current ego to die because current ego is a piece of shit. 1316488;1446683714;asciilifeform;!s chicken also wants 1316489;1446683715;assbot;3 results for 'chicken also wants' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=chicken+also+wants 1316490;1446683742;asciilifeform;http://www.ruthenia.ru/folklore/neckludov19.htm 1316491;1446683745;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMo1mS ) 1316492;1446683745;asciilifeform;^ canonical. 1316493;1446683753;mircea_popescu;btw does that carry any petuk subtext ? 1316494;1446683760;asciilifeform;quite possibly. 1316495;1446683801;asciilifeform;'Цыпленок тоже хочет жить.' 1316496;1446683834;asciilifeform;http://a-pesni.org/dvor/cyplenok.php << moar history 1316497;1446683835;assbot;Неизв. авторы - Цыпленок жареный (с нотами и видео) ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMo4PI ) 1316498;1446683898;asciilifeform;specifically 'образ "цыпленка пареного" как символ обывателя, который "просто хочет жить"' >> the image of a steamed chicken as a symbol of a jwz who 'only wants to live' 1316499;1446683948;*;mircea_popescu is sadly too busy to pursue this folklore angle. 1316500;1446683981;*;asciilifeform leaves it in the logz for the idlerz 1316501;1446683999;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQDpGv19kM 1316502;1446684000;assbot;Аркадий Северный Цыпленок жареный - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMog1e ) 1316503;1446684026;asciilifeform;^ prison version 1316504;1446684062;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316143 << this stupidity is perhaps the finest exercise in "how to fuck up women under the guise of protecting their rights". 1316505;1446684062;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 21:19:42; asciilifeform: 'This is SOP for STEM/Biz profs, too. Never be alone with female students. Never mentor them. Never supervise a graduate thesis. A bad review/grade turns into a sexual harassment claim far too easily.' 1316506;1446684071;mircea_popescu;who suffers ? the middling comnpetent female. 1316507;1446684081;asciilifeform;hey the chicken just wants to live 1316508;1446684083;mircea_popescu;which is EXACTLY the sort the female-politics niggers HATE to see 1316509;1446684093;asciilifeform;or what, you think a prof can afford to defend himself ? 1316510;1446684098;mircea_popescu;if all females were she-rakims their life would be so smooth. 1316511;1446684121;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't mind in the slightest - more flesh for me. 1316512;1446684128;mircea_popescu;to pick among. 1316513;1446684170;asciilifeform;i thought mircea_popescu considered most of said flesh far too contaminated for any practical use 1316514;1446684194;mircea_popescu;depends how determined & obedient. 1316515;1446684227;mircea_popescu;it is, contrary (to whose surprise ?) to what the derps try to tell them, pretty much the only important characteristic. 1316516;1446684250;mircea_popescu;i can teach constitutional law to a rodent that's obedient and determined, enough of it at any rate to surpass the present mulatto in chief. 1316517;1446684264;asciilifeform;eh that last one's not so hard 1316518;1446684276;mircea_popescu;nevertheless. 1316519;1446684670;mircea_popescu;lol is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315827 <--> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316197 supposed to be like, trolling or something ? 1316520;1446684670;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:05:49; mircea_popescu: are we broke yet ? 1316521;1446684670;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 23:11:00; imposter: r0kit are we rich yet? 1316522;1446684929;mircea_popescu;"How long would it take for Toyota to start living up to these accusations in earnest? And why should it not do so? What is to be gained from corporate sainthood?" << "De ce te uiti de parca ti-am furat ceva. Daca tot te uiti asa, mai bine ti-as fura." 1316523;1446684947;mircea_popescu;falsely complain of rape ? get raped. might as well. 1316524;1446684959;mircea_popescu;what exactly does one have to gain by NOT doing it ? 1316525;1446684966;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: in english they say 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' 1316526;1446684973;mircea_popescu;not the same sentiment. 1316527;1446684988;mircea_popescu;i think maybe the white rapper guy had some verse to the point 1316528;1446684992;mircea_popescu;my memory fails me 1316529;1446685001;pete_dushenski;more of a double jeopardy 1316530;1446685022;pete_dushenski;white rapper = eminem ? 1316531;1446685031;mircea_popescu;aha 1316532;1446685163;BingoBoingo;white rapper = Little Debbie? 1316533;1446685174;mircea_popescu;(the original, ie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZrgcSQRN0U says "why do you look at me as if i stole from you ? if you're gonna do that, i might as well...) 1316534;1446685175;assbot;B.U.G. Mafia - Cuvinte Grele (feat. Puya, Luchian, Maximilian, Pacha Man & ViLLy) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nf0rvQ ) 1316535;1446685240;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but entertain me, for my own education, on a purely business matter of some public interest. 1316536;1446685246;asciilifeform;shoot 1316537;1446685277;mircea_popescu;i could spend money to have eulora interface translated into some sort of an iapp. it'd prolly work, more or less. i... aren't bothering myself with actually doing this. 1316538;1446685289;mircea_popescu;do you not count it as an example of developer eschewing the monopoly ? and to apple's detriment ? 1316539;1446685293;asciilifeform;it'd have to be sideloaded 1316540;1446685297;mircea_popescu;sure, they got a monopoly on all the candy crush. so ? 1316541;1446685301;mircea_popescu;hm ? 1316542;1446685308;mircea_popescu;what is "sideloaded" ? 1316543;1446685317;asciilifeform;run solely on cracked machines 1316544;1446685320;mircea_popescu;why ? 1316545;1446685342;asciilifeform;apple demands that any transfer of value of whatever kind inside an ipnohe proggy happen using their system 1316546;1446685345;asciilifeform;with their vig taken. 1316547;1446685350;mircea_popescu;there is no "transfer of value" within eulora 1316548;1446685355;asciilifeform;ergo no bitcoinatronic apps period. 1316549;1446685356;mircea_popescu;100% free app, i charge for nothing. 1316550;1446685375;mircea_popescu;same thing as with steam : i would not even accept money from them. 1316551;1446685376;asciilifeform;aha but the first time anyone thinks of using it to move coin, it gets pulled. 1316552;1446685383;mircea_popescu;because how ? 1316553;1446685394;mircea_popescu;they're gonna what, police users ? 1316554;1446685404;asciilifeform;as a non-player, am i mistaken that one can move btc using eulora .. ? 1316555;1446685408;mircea_popescu;but forget this nonsense, focus on the business interest. 1316556;1446685419;mircea_popescu;so : there is a thing. it doesn't go there. to their detriment. what of the monopoly ? 1316557;1446685428;mircea_popescu;or you're proposing that I need ~them~ or something ? 1316558;1446685442;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu, very apparently, does not need the kolhoz, no. 1316559;1446685442;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you can move btc using email, too. what of it ? your problem. 1316560;1446685453;mircea_popescu;but the point is important, in light of your article. 1316561;1446685488;asciilifeform;when i wrote that piece, there was a very temporary phenomenon where the small-time independent programmer appeared to be a thing again 1316562;1446685495;asciilifeform;like in the mid '90s 'shareware scene' 1316563;1446685501;mircea_popescu;so s.mg is excepted because it's... big ? 1316564;1446685511;asciilifeform;because it doesn't actually need anything from anyone. 1316565;1446685519;mircea_popescu;but this is true of all success, ever. 1316566;1446685529;mircea_popescu;ipad didn't get any fortress-whatever that's called action either. 1316567;1446685537;asciilifeform;i wasn't speaking of success, but of a living wage in the leprosorium. 1316568;1446685544;asciilifeform;s.mg does not live in the leprosorium. 1316569;1446685547;mircea_popescu;in fact, and i had this deeply reviewed, ipad is an approximation of "Flash games"/arcade website, which was always a bit player. 1316570;1446685558;mircea_popescu;they have like... 3 types of games, and rehashed ad nauseam. 1316571;1446685563;mircea_popescu;want me to describe ? 1316572;1446685577;asciilifeform;today - yes. it transitioned to the spamatronic cargo cult phase 1316573;1446685580;mircea_popescu;imo they failed unconscionably at this. 1316574;1446685583;asciilifeform;where everything is an imitation of a cheap imitation. 1316575;1446685583;mircea_popescu;right. 1316576;1446685592;mircea_popescu;and they HAD, 5 years ago, a thing. 1316577;1446685597;asciilifeform;had, aha. 1316578;1446685604;mircea_popescu;missed by a mile, they weren't even shooting towards it. 1316579;1446685609;asciilifeform;today 'steam' appears to be doing the temporary 'having' of that thing 1316580;1446685613;mircea_popescu;right. 1316581;1446685616;asciilifeform;tomorrow it'll be another, similar. 1316582;1446685622;mircea_popescu;and i'm marginally consdiering them (iirc was in the logs), but also kind-of meh. 1316583;1446685628;asciilifeform;it's a kolhoz 1316584;1446685638;asciilifeform;all kolhoz follow the same dynamic, afaik. 1316585;1446685638;mircea_popescu;and the reason is, apparently, that steam doesn't have the wisdom to have expert packagers out there looking for work. 1316586;1446685645;mircea_popescu;which is what i/bezos would have done as #1 thing to do. 1316587;1446685671;mircea_popescu;it's very strange how stupid perpetuates itself in that market, in spite of better exampled extant, and well publicised. 1316588;1446685676;asciilifeform;at any rate, i (and $maxint others) will port $whateverthefuckyouwant to, e.g., cray II. for a fee. 1316589;1446685689;mircea_popescu;it's almost like the dating market : some people are decent at picking up c hicks, and the losers watch them do it and... still suck. 1316590;1446685714;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i would honestly think it's a waste of your time to do this ? 1316591;1446685729;asciilifeform;you know that's how i waste most of it, right ? 1316592;1446685732;mircea_popescu;not that it's not open to folk wanting the work and +wot centrality, but hey. 1316593;1446685733;asciilifeform;doing wurk to make rentz. 1316594;1446685760;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes, that may be, but i do not waste most of my money downshifting people. in general i waste it upshifting people. 1316595;1446685781;mircea_popescu;hence "pay for your tits" schemes etc. 1316596;1446685790;mircea_popescu;course... people are talented at resisting it, but hey :D 1316597;1446686051;mircea_popescu;"You want a non-tyrannical Apple? Rather than striving to weaken Apple so that it can be devoured by its brawny-yet-mindless competitors, do something constructive. Experiment with GUIs which dont trace their descent to Xerox PARC. Forever renounce the idiotic practice of copying Microsoft, that cheap imitation of a cheap imitation. If you are creative, create. Otherwise, strive to find a strong-willed Jobs fig 1316598;1446686051;mircea_popescu;ure gifted with good taste, and become his loyal servant." 1316599;1446686054;mircea_popescu;wow, this is 2010 too ?! 1316600;1446686057;BingoBoingo;!s five words 1316601;1446686057;assbot;8 results for 'five words' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=five+words 1316602;1446686057;asciilifeform;aha 1316603;1446686178;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo which one ? 1316604;1446686199;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The hang with words one. Finally doing the Severance/sheriff piece 1316605;1446686209;BingoBoingo;Cardinal Richelieu 1316606;1446686233;mircea_popescu;ah right 1316607;1446686342;trinque;bitcoind trashing the debug.log each time has got to go 1316608;1446686363;mircea_popescu;word. 1316609;1446686371;mircea_popescu;poor trinque fell into a soup. 1316610;1446686376;trinque;it's good for a guy 1316611;1446686389;asciilifeform;trinque: there was a patch. iirc it didn't make it in for some trivial reason 1316612;1446686395;trinque;I'll have a taste of some low-hanging fruit this weekend 1316613;1446686621;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316402 <--> http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=304 1316614;1446686621;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 00:10:19; asciilifeform: i cannot help but be surprised when i encounter, in the old words of ben_vulpes, 'clown cars glued to a spinning ceiling' 1316615;1446686621;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nf1EmX ) 1316616;1446686631;pete_dushenski;twas ol' decimation ftr 1316617;1446686654;asciilifeform;was, wasn't it. 1316618;1446686972;pete_dushenski;http://www.nhregister.com/government-and-politics/20151101/cops-to-grab-unlocked-stuff-from-cars-in-east-rock-area-x2014-for-safekeeping << one for BingoBoingo 1316619;1446686973;assbot;Cops to grab unlocked stuff from cars in East Rock area — for safekeeping ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nf1Xy0 ) 1316620;1446686997;BingoBoingo;lol sure you don't want it pete_dushenski 1316621;1446687025;trinque;jurov: pls switch disgests on the mailing list to off for me; I cannot 1316622;1446687030;mod6;<+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315736 << the way to do it is gpg --homedir /tmp/dirthatyoumadefortheoccasion << got it. will work on this tonight. 1316623;1446687030;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 13:43:59; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete? 1316624;1446687039;trinque;*digests 1316625;1446687052;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo: you're the u.s. legal/policing expert 'round these parts :) 1316626;1446687082;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: Alright 1316627;1446687087;pete_dushenski;security and finance are my qntra fortes 1316628;1446687214;BingoBoingo;Sometimes it can help to branch out 1316629;1446687281;deedbot-;[Qntra] Man Convicted as Serial Killer Over Circumstantial Evidence - http://qntra.net/2015/11/man-convicted-as-serial-killer-over-circumstantial-evidence/ 1316630;1446687332;jurov;trinque you should be set 1316631;1446687412;trinque;jurov: :) ty 1316632;1446687441;mircea_popescu;the circumserial killer. 1316633;1446687458;asciilifeform;how come nobody says 'parallel killer' 1316634;1446687582;pete_dushenski;not everyone's shiva 1316635;1446687623;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316544 << the back-and-forth over gpg registration would be entertaining, at least 1316636;1446687623;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 01:02:00; mircea_popescu: why ? 1316637;1446687662;BingoBoingo; how come nobody says 'parallel killer' << Like McVeigh? 1316638;1446687689;trinque;the nazis had quite the multiprocessing going for a time 1316639;1446687755;pete_dushenski;mao too 1316640;1446688079;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes for my curiosity, does your outfit hire ? 1316641;1446688199;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: spiffy article. but fails to mention that the writings of s. have not (afaik - has anyone tried hard?) been seen by the public; nor is it publicly known how and where usg obtained them (it is known, iirc, that they were NOT public) 1316642;1446688221;asciilifeform;by all indications, they jailed the crippled man and ransacked his home. 1316643;1446688234;asciilifeform;where they found some schizo notebook of his 1316644;1446688255;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Aha, hinted but yes a point for the comments! 1316645;1446688259;mircea_popescu;which we know was "of his" because washington post would never lie. 1316646;1446688260;asciilifeform;and stitched it into something for the jury. 1316647;1446688261;asciilifeform;aha. 1316648;1446688263;asciilifeform;'his.' 1316649;1446688296;asciilifeform;the whole thing smells as strongly as anyone might wish, of usg pushing the bounds of the possible. 1316650;1446688340;BingoBoingo;Definitely for the comments, because I was not thinking of this part 1316651;1446688364;asciilifeform;this, in short, is why i found the case interesting to begin with... 1316652;1446688384;asciilifeform;in ru we say the case was 'stitched together' 1316653;1446688395;asciilifeform;or 'stitched with white thread' 1316654;1446688415;mircea_popescu;"|Ulanoff completely fails to examine this "oh yeah, we suck in some areas claim". Why? The guy's a "car reporter". No more, no less. If he says negative things about the companies that pay his salary, he gets fired and the publication for whom he works never gets another scoop/lead/exclusive." << BUT WHY ? 1316655;1446688424;mircea_popescu;"because the public doesn't matter." ah, okay. 1316656;1446688425;mircea_popescu;so then... 1316657;1446688449;asciilifeform;(this comes from old notebooks having held together with thread, that turned dark with dirt and age. when pages were inserted or removed surreptitiously, new thread was often used to stitch the thing back) 1316658;1446688459;asciilifeform;hence the application to spurious criminal cases. 1316659;1446688473;asciilifeform;white thread. 1316660;1446688479;BingoBoingo;aha 1316661;1446688532;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate' -- missing a dash 1316662;1446688539;asciilifeform;killing -- the real estate 1316663;1446688541;asciilifeform;-- 1316664;1446688615;BingoBoingo;"Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate agent instead killing the sheriff." better? 1316665;1446688632;asciilifeform;still can't parse 1316666;1446688656;mircea_popescu;"Apple's fabrication partners appear to be taking the opposite approach, which is to select parts whose tolerance errors cancel each other out." << this is wartime engineering. 1316667;1446688664;mircea_popescu;that's how the nazis were beaten. 1316668;1446688683;mircea_popescu;+-5% mechanical parts and patience. 1316669;1446688688;asciilifeform;it is soviet sop. 1316670;1446688692;BingoBoingo;"Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate agent instead of killing the sheriff." << better? 1316671;1446688702;asciilifeform;was ~the only~ way to get functioning circuits, for instance. 1316672;1446688713;asciilifeform;(chix with bucketz sorting transistors) 1316673;1446688734;asciilifeform;phun phakt, the reject parts went to... schools 1316674;1446688736;mircea_popescu;i don't recall who had this display of "100 ohm resistors" that measured from 30 to a whopping 1.5k 1316675;1446688739;mircea_popescu;aha 1316676;1446688759;asciilifeform;which is how my brother still doesn't fully believe, in his gut heart, that physics works 1316677;1446688772;asciilifeform;he learned on the 1.5k 100ohm resistors. 1316678;1446688775;mircea_popescu;gutheart lol 1316679;1446688833;asciilifeform;see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#654839 1316680;1446688833;assbot;Logged on 02-05-2014 02:36:33; asciilifeform: decimation: for some reason, this reminds me of a tale my consulting partner (physicist, grew up in india, 1970s) told me. students would qualify on instruments that barely worked, but belonged, to, e.g. the great Bose. 1316681;1446688913;mod6;asciilifeform: are you impartial to /tmp instead of ~/gnupgtmp ? I just put in the changes and this is what gpg spit back at me: http://dpaste.com/23A824E.txt 1316682;1446688914;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMur5G ) 1316683;1446688939;asciilifeform;mod6: home dir is prolly the correct approach 1316684;1446688948;asciilifeform;mod6: see if perl doesn't have a built-in notion of temp dirs 1316685;1446688964;mod6;ah, similar to your py implementation? i'll take a look. 1316686;1446688971;asciilifeform;'v' doesn't deal in secrets, ergo the actual location is unimportant. 1316687;1446688976;mircea_popescu;and in today's milking news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/91c1efcf80578e17d367a6cfc6d97787/tumblr_miljedZhkU1rdbtrjo1_1280.jpg 1316688;1446688977;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMuuhM ) 1316689;1446689082;mod6;at first glance, looks like one needs to "use File::Tempdir", so will veer away from that. 1316690;1446689229;asciilifeform;homedir oughta work, but the trick is that you gotta know that it's one you made, every time 1316691;1446689244;asciilifeform;and not one that was previously lying around, that is now about to have its contents zapped 1316692;1446689258;asciilifeform;in lisp parlance, it has to be a 'gensym' 1316693;1446689293;asciilifeform;-- a unique thing that never was and never will be again. 1316694;1446689300;asciilifeform;(literally) 1316695;1446689304;mircea_popescu;q : wouldn't the right way to do this be, "gen session key" ? 1316696;1446689324;asciilifeform;it would, if there were secretz 1316697;1446689331;mircea_popescu;so what if they aren't ? 1316698;1446689346;mircea_popescu;it does offer a firm guarantee that "always the one you made" 1316699;1446689355;mod6;my thought was to create if it doesn't exist, otherwise die. and delete at the end of execution. however there is a scenario where if for instance a seal exists from a key that is not in the wot and the application exits before main returns. 1316700;1446689379;mircea_popescu;gen memory key, keep it in a file keyed thus, delete on finish. 1316701;1446689379;asciilifeform;create in such a way that creation fails if dir existed. problem solved. 1316702;1446689391;mircea_popescu;you can still be lied to. 1316703;1446689394;asciilifeform;sure. 1316704;1446689406;mircea_popescu;symlinks among others 1316705;1446689436;asciilifeform;and at the end of the day, 'v' is a unix proggy and isn't even a compiled thing, and utterly depends on 1,000,001 things that no one has examined since 1991. 1316706;1446689443;mircea_popescu;true. 1316707;1446689446;mircea_popescu;just a thought. 1316708;1446689471;mod6;i guess i could hash the epoch time and append it to the dir name, store it as a global for "session" key. 1316709;1446689487;mircea_popescu;how's a time dependency help you ? 1316710;1446689492;mircea_popescu;"time" is not your friend. 1316711;1446689511;mod6;just something unique to when executed. 1316712;1446689522;asciilifeform;this kind of thing can only be implemented as a global thing. 1316713;1446689560;mod6;hmm. 1316714;1446689567;mod6;i don't wanna over complicate this to begin with. 1316715;1446689582;asciilifeform;'fortunately' it can't be done at all on unix. 1316716;1446689857;BingoBoingo;https://i.imgur.com/NbOUr5U.jpg 1316717;1446689858;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMvF0D ) 1316718;1446690452;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1316719;1446690459;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 437.84, vol: 107876.68218332 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 425.989, vol: 58789.66874 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 434.2, vol: 283207.14469946 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 415.0, vol: 16.91547596 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 466.847448, vol: 128374.06380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 431.0, vol: 442.62947362 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 396.64464, vol: 774.64764333 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1316720;1446691088;BingoBoingo;;;more 1316721;1446691088;gribble;average: 441.223864598 1316722;1446691498;trinque;ShrinkDebugFile() << lol, the autism in this thing 1316723;1446691510;asciilifeform;trinque: how so ? 1316724;1446691531;trinque;that it's a debug log and someone thought well gee if it gets too big better shrink it 1316725;1446691534;trinque;wtf?! 1316726;1446691537;trinque;I'm debugging! leave it! 1316727;1446691557;asciilifeform;trinque: iirc it doesn't shrink, in the classical 0.5.3, if debug flag is on. 1316728;1446691558;trinque;furthermore that it's even the job of the thing to clumsily rotate its own log 1316729;1446691571;asciilifeform;trinque: would you prefer that it depend on a unix log rotator ? 1316730;1446691572;phf;mod6: use File::Temp qw/:mktemp/; $foo = mkdtemp("/tmp/fooXXXXXXX"); print $foo."\n"; # => /tmp/foowq51sxd 1316731;1446691576;asciilifeform;can't have it both ways 1316732;1446691581;phf;i'm not sure how more easy can this be 1316733;1446691595;mod6;i dont wanna "use" anything if it can be helped. 1316734;1446691598;asciilifeform;^ 1316735;1446691612;trinque;asciilifeform: yes I would prefer that it only do one thing, but you are correct that it calls this only if !fDebug 1316736;1446691619;phf;mod6: file::temp is perl stock 1316737;1446691673;phf;mkdtemp is a canonical way of creating a temporary directory on unix, that'll also ensure a) no collisions b) proper permissions, i.e. 700 1316738;1446691776;trinque;asciilifeform: one might rotate a production log, fine 1316739;1446691785;trinque;the rotation was put in the debug log; that is mega-autism 1316740;1446691803;trinque;and not even rotation, goofy head-trimming 1316741;1446691819;asciilifeform;i must confess that i disagree. the thing runs, as it might, self-contained, to the extent practical. 1316742;1446691830;asciilifeform;if you recall, the original wasn't even assured of running on a unix 1316743;1446691835;asciilifeform;where a log autorotator can be had 1316744;1446691856;trinque;if it were the ADA version or even one written with as few deps as possible, I'd grant you're right 1316745;1446691860;trinque;this is *not* standalone at all 1316746;1446691889;asciilifeform;thing was written for winblowz, in its heart, by a winblowz programmer, this is beyond dispute. 1316747;1446692001;trinque;how does the fact that it was written for windows argue for the retardation staying 1316748;1446692032;asciilifeform;staying ? 1316749;1446692066;asciilifeform;on a machine like pogo it does not make sense to produce the log at all 1316750;1446692100;asciilifeform;in any form. 1316751;1446692258;asciilifeform;trinque: this is reminiscent of the thread concerining upnp. 1316752;1446692262;asciilifeform;*concerning 1316753;1446692308;asciilifeform;we threw it out, because it is really a harmful thing, but later ended up with an impression that it will have to be - in a separate process, yes - put back, if pogo is to be deployed to civilian households 1316754;1446692374;trinque;I am commenting on the idiocy of a thing *ever* taking it upon itself to erase the history of its own operation 1316755;1446692394;asciilifeform;trinque: you don't ever flush your toilet ? 1316756;1446692397;trinque;when it is sitting on a system where the user can decide to do this if he chooses 1316757;1446692413;trinque;no, but my shits do not flush the toilet for themselves.... 1316758;1446692415;asciilifeform;there is no human user on, e.g., pogo. 1316759;1446692423;asciilifeform;it is poured into cement. 1316760;1446692425;asciilifeform;in orbit 1316761;1446692463;asciilifeform;yet it still makes sense to have a small 'crash recorder' sort of log, for when it shits itself. 1316762;1446692472;asciilifeform;how do you propose to do this ? 1316763;1446692490;asciilifeform;unrelatedly, 1316764;1446692495;asciilifeform;but this is pure gold, 1316765;1446692497;asciilifeform;esp for mircea_popescu: 1316766;1446692500;asciilifeform;#ifdef M_GUARD 1316767;1446692500;asciilifeform; if( a ) { 1316768;1446692500;asciilifeform;#error "--enable-m-guard does not currently work" 1316769;1446692508;asciilifeform;^^^^^^^^^ guess from where ^^^^^^^^^ 1316770;1446692618;asciilifeform;trinque: you do know that aircraft crash boxes traditionally ran the tape in a loop, right ? 1316771;1446692629;asciilifeform;because guess what, finite tape fits in box. 1316772;1446692648;asciilifeform;and it was not deemed acceptable for the box to ever not be recording. 1316773;1446692649;trinque;this log file is a small fraction of the size of the blockchain which is also constantly being written 1316774;1446692664;asciilifeform;no 1316775;1446692668;asciilifeform;think about it 1316776;1446692700;asciilifeform;a) a wedged node still pisses into the log b) log contains tx ids, many of which correspond to nothing that ends up in the blocks 1316777;1446692727;trinque;I was thinking of a lower log level than whatever I'd expect from "debug" but in that case yes 1316778;1446692727;asciilifeform;i have machines here where the size of the log approaches the size of the blockchain. 1316779;1446693357;trinque;asciilifeform: why not have the thing barf everything to stdout and stderr and let whatever's out there do with it what it pleases; opposed to unix-y small proggies that do one thing here? 1316780;1446693362;phf;mod6: you might be right not wanting to `use`. i decided to look at file::temp to see how they do ffi, but instead it's a custom perl written blob. probably reasonable to use, but.. in any case i recommend at least conforming to the api of mkdtemp("/tmp/fooXXX") => /tmp/fooAj5. i took a stab at a sample code, http://paste.lisp.org/display/158520, but there are some other things to keep in mind, 1316781;1446693363;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hsnu4e ) 1316782;1446693363;phf;e.g. http://search.cpan.org/~dagolden/File-Temp-0.2304/lib/File/Temp.pm#safe_level (particularly if you read the paragraph under HIGH) 1316783;1446693410;asciilifeform;trinque: and when it runs daemonized ? 1316784;1446693436;trinque;runit runs things in precisely this manner, and is the smallest init guy I know 1316785;1446693437;asciilifeform;see, the whole 'unix philosophy' thing would be considerably more interesting if we had a machine where it actually... worked. 1316786;1446693454;asciilifeform;trinque: i don't even know how big it is, but will tell you that it is too big for pogo. 1316787;1446693459;trinque;.... 1316788;1446693466;asciilifeform;because ANYTHING is too big 1316789;1446693474;trinque;there will be no init? 1316790;1446693483;asciilifeform;prolly not. 1316791;1446693491;asciilifeform;(why waste the precious ram on that ??) 1316792;1446693516;trinque;one sec while I go find the ram usage of runit on a similar device 1316793;1446693529;asciilifeform;if it's 8kb that's too much. 1316794;1446693699;asciilifeform;my argument here is not that the behaviour of the classic debug log is a beautiful thing, but that any change to bitcoin that MAKES MANDATORY the presence of so much as an 8kB proggy on the machine, is LETHAL 1316795;1446693701;asciilifeform;to pogo. 1316796;1446693734;phf;should there even be logs on pogo? 1316797;1446693744;asciilifeform;phf: log in the airplane 'black box' sense only. 1316798;1446693745;asciilifeform;if that. 1316799;1446693775;asciilifeform;moreover, since unix has no future, but unfortunately we are stuck with a junkyard of rusting x86 and arm boxes, it makes sense for bitcoin to evolve in the direction of being an os 1316800;1446693777;trinque;bout two orders of magnitude north of that 1316801;1446693781;phf;in that case you'd better truncate it doing run too, because if that pogo doesn't go down, there's no cap on the log 1316802;1446693794;asciilifeform;but it does NOT make sense for it to evolve in the direction of being 'a good unix util' 1316803;1446693879;trinque;this makes sense 1316804;1446693921;asciilifeform;... not that the thing is in any way close to being pogoizable 1316805;1446693932;mircea_popescu;!up woivis 1316806;1446693970;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 1316807;1446693974;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 445.21, Best ask: 445.3, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 445.2, 24 hour volume: 285121.27754096, 24 hour low: 366.66, 24 hour high: 504.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1316808;1446693978;asciilifeform;and it won't be a matter of a few changed lines, either. 1316809;1446693980;mircea_popescu;this is better than daytime dramaz 1316810;1446693981;woivis;thank you mircea 1316811;1446693987;mircea_popescu;aha. who're you ? 1316812;1446694001;trinque;init on the same device is taking about 300kb more than runit, as on this thing I have the former starting the latter 1316813;1446694028;asciilifeform;trinque: neither really belongs there. 1316814;1446694039;asciilifeform;in fact, a battlefield bitcoinatron has no business having a conventional 'userland' at all. 1316815;1446694049;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316733 << we applaud this notion. 1316816;1446694049;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 02:46:35; mod6: i dont wanna "use" anything if it can be helped. 1316817;1446694064;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: then you will love the current thread... 1316818;1446694082;*;asciilifeform brb, food 1316819;1446694084;*;mircea_popescu getting there 1316820;1446694109;*;trinque is curiously googling what init=bitcoind would take 1316821;1446694157;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316749 << the principle of this is sound. if you're debugging on pogo you've got more pressing problems than the log. such as your psychotherapy appointment. 1316822;1446694157;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 02:54:26; asciilifeform: on a machine like pogo it does not make sense to produce the log at all 1316823;1446694216;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316757 << lol zing. 1316824;1446694216;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 03:00:13; trinque: no, but my shits do not flush the toilet for themselves.... 1316825;1446694243;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316768 << heh. 1316826;1446694243;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 03:01:40; asciilifeform: #error "--enable-m-guard does not currently work" 1316827;1446694325;mircea_popescu;actually the rotating tape is not such a bad idea. not just for pogo-log, but in general. wild notion, but, asciilifeform how about memory allocator that simply overwrites the beginning ? 1316828;1446694406;phf;system message buffer operates that way (i.e. what you get with dmesg) 1316829;1446694412;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316780 << i have no idea why reasonable to use. 1316830;1446694412;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 03:16:02; phf: mod6: you might be right not wanting to `use`. i decided to look at file::temp to see how they do ffi, but instead it's a custom perl written blob. probably reasonable to use, but.. in any case i recommend at least conforming to the api of mkdtemp("/tmp/fooXXX") => /tmp/fooAj5. i took a stab at a sample code, http://paste.lisp.org/display/158520, but there are some other things to keep in mind, 1316831;1446694418;mircea_popescu;phf so it does. 1316832;1446694441;mircea_popescu;and for this same exact reason, as alf would say, "cement". 1316833;1446694456;trinque;I suppose given you can fire up networking entirely from within the linux kernel, init=bitcoind may be all that is needed at some point 1316834;1446694466;phf;mircea_popescu: i honestly thought it was a thin wrapper around call to unix mkdtemp, glad i checked 1316835;1446694485;mircea_popescu;trinque the eventual end goal is to have bitcoinix. as alf says, no userland at all. nor really a kernel in the common sense. 1316836;1446694539;mircea_popescu;kinda have a) a nix ; b) a bitcoin and c) an obvious pogo-merge for these two. 1316837;1446694627;phf;apropos this conversation, emacs as init http://informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html, prototyped using "user-mode-linux", http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net something that could be used for bitcoind 1316838;1446694630;assbot;Page Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpLA7E ) 1316839;1446694630;assbot;The User-mode Linux Kernel Home Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpLA7G ) 1316840;1446694633;mircea_popescu;back to tape : not to mention that since these these things are virtualized, you could in principle specify how you wish the available mem to be split among the various rotating tapes. 1316841;1446695407;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: an allocator that knows that it is acceptable to lose some old bits is called a circular buffer and behaves like a looped tape, yes 1316842;1446695414;asciilifeform;e.g., your nic's buffers 1316843;1446695426;asciilifeform;everything on your box that can safely behave this way, pretty much already does. 1316844;1446695436;mircea_popescu;why not mempool ? 1316845;1446695449;asciilifeform;mempool is a great example 1316846;1446695457;asciilifeform;of a mechanism which ought to work this way 1316847;1446695457;mircea_popescu;but not implemented thus currently. 1316848;1446695467;asciilifeform;(see old threads where we beat this to a liquid pulp) 1316849;1446695510;mircea_popescu;apparently not liquid enough. "liquifying - works ; drinking - not yet." 1316850;1446695536;asciilifeform;^ aha. 1316851;1446695815;trinque;asciilifeform: thinking the kernel's automount mech. for pogo's external disk slot? 1316852;1446695837;asciilifeform;mount at warmup. 1316853;1446695848;asciilifeform;why ever any time else? 1316854;1446695988;*;trinque nods 1316855;1446696084;mircea_popescu;so the fucking web idiots have come up with a novel css hell that chokes my browsers. 1316856;1446696098;mircea_popescu;what the fuck these fucking idiots and theyr css. should be hanged. 1316857;1446696104;asciilifeform;this happens regularly enough. 1316858;1446696106;mircea_popescu;your "formatting" does not work inline, go die in a fire. 1316859;1446696109;liquidassets;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316034 << full disclosure via logs is most correct thing for honeytrapping no? 1316860;1446696109;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:50:13; *: asciilifeform would like input from his WoT re: what is the correct thing to do with obvious usg honeytrapping as described earlier. 1316861;1446696114;trinque;whole thing is a massive sin 1316862;1446696143;mircea_popescu;it has its merits liquidassets 1316863;1446696144;liquidassets;“only the Übermensch will have the strength to fully accept all of his past life, including his failures and misdeeds, and to truly will their eternal return” grepped straight from the logz 1316864;1446696250;liquidassets;anytime you're opened up to liability, the one who documents best seems to win 1316865;1446696316;BingoBoingo; ... << full disclosure via logs is most correct thing for honeytrapping no? << Yes, like that time I blogged the FBI visit to my front door 1316866;1446696353;BingoBoingo;For honeydicking, I am less certain the proper course of action 1316867;1446696608;mircea_popescu;pics help. 1316868;1446696617;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 7.47500000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b40 1316869;1446696849;liquidassets;Exactly BingoBoingo except I still have to go back and read more to get the full context 1316870;1446696963;liquidassets;honeydicking < who the fuck are they gonna pick ? jeb ? the doc nobody heard of ? << Doctor Stoner is actually leading now. Rubio appears to be the establishment alternative now that Jeb is dead in the water 1316882;1446697186;BingoBoingo;NEarly all the repubes are still ruining 1316883;1446697189;mircea_popescu;never in history has a nobody been elected before 1316884;1446697193;mircea_popescu;o wait... obama. nm. 1316885;1446697198;asciilifeform;l0l aha 1316886;1446697229;mircea_popescu;i would imagine the republicans understand enough of their small penis issues to not imagine they can pull democrat tricks. 1316887;1446697236;BingoBoingo;Obama, Clinton, Truman... 1316888;1446697246;trinque;Trump and Carson practically fist-bumped on stage in that CNBC "debate"; I wouldn't be surprised to see them end up running together 1316889;1446697248;mircea_popescu;clinton was well known 1316890;1446697253;mircea_popescu;"that guy with the hot wife" 1316891;1446697258;BingoBoingo;Not Bill 1316892;1446697273;BingoBoingo;George Clinton was well known at the time though 1316893;1446697292;mircea_popescu;let's limit this discussion to "after tv" 1316894;1446697318;BingoBoingo;;;google george clinton 1316895;1446697319;gribble;George Clinton Parliament Funkadelic official website: ; George Clinton (musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic - Facebook: 1316896;1446697328;BingoBoingo;^ That CLinton was well known 1316897;1446697329;mircea_popescu;lmao 1316898;1446697395;BingoBoingo;But seriously none of the republicans are going to stop before the first primaries because they gotta build their profile in public to become TV hosts 1316899;1446697412;BingoBoingo;It's the way of their people 1316900;1446697444;BingoBoingo;Democrats on the other hand quit well in advance because getting appointed to various offices is the way of their people 1316901;1446697478;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i'm still waiting for the magical 1986 or so of our day, when thinking people stop even recreationally giving a shit about the stuffed shirts 1316902;1446697517;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: i'm still waiting for the magical 1986 or so of our day, when thinking people stop even recreationally giving a shit about the stuffed shirts << Too late BitBet exists 1316903;1446697709;asciilifeform;hey it mostly dropped sport crud 1316904;1446697787;BingoBoingo;Sure, this may too fade 1316905;1446697896;BingoBoingo;!up woivis 1316906;1446697920;trinque;perhaps asciilifeform is waiting for "The USG scam wont see 2019" 1316907;1446698034;BingoBoingo;Mebbe 1316908;1446698477;asciilifeform;i don't personally expect to see 2019. 1316909;1446698480;asciilifeform;so no, won't bet. 1316910;1446698678;BingoBoingo;These years creep up on people 1316911;1446698724;asciilifeform;in other 'news', malloc is very very complicated. 1316912;1446698751;BingoBoingo;fuck yeah 1316913;1446698776;asciilifeform;considerably more so than, e.g., knuth's, garbage collector. 1316914;1446698958;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu finally dug up the sysv6-on-x86 thing. http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1114 1316915;1446698962;assbot;Embedded in Academia : Xv6 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Po3G8F ) 1316916;1446698962;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1316917;1446698977;asciilifeform;turned it up ~by accident~ while looking for entirely unrelated thing. 1316918;1446699021;asciilifeform;'Xv6 is a rewrite of v6 UNIX in modern C that runs on multicore x86 chips. It compiles in a couple of seconds and is trivial to boot up in QEMU. It took me a while to see the genius of Xv6, which is that it is simpler than I would have thought a working multicore OS with shell and filesystem could be. For example, it lacks wait queues and ready queues in Xv6, both wakeup and scheduling are accomplished by looping over the 1316919;1446699021;asciilifeform;all-process table. Similarly, theres no malloc() in the kernel, but rather just a page allocator. The pipe implementation copies one byte at a time. Amazingly, even the bootloader is a pleasure to read. Another nice thing about Xv6 is that it comes with a short textbook that explains OS concepts in terms of their implementations in Xv6.' 1316920;1446699021;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 1316921;1446699251;asciilifeform;^ the animal in the lions book, rewritten for x86. 1316922;1446699316;asciilifeform;robert morris of all people. 1316923;1446699333;asciilifeform;i thought he was dead... 1316924;1446699463;BingoBoingo;Shit, Unix lives again 1316925;1446699478;asciilifeform;if that's living. 1316926;1446699500;asciilifeform;https://github.com/ahorn/xv6 << for those who must read in www browser.. 1316927;1446699501;assbot;ahorn/xv6 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1WBspXy ) 1316928;1446699544;asciilifeform;https://github.com/ahorn/xv6/blob/master/kill.c << example of why lions book was a thing 1316929;1446699545;assbot;xv6/kill.c at master · ahorn/xv6 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1WBstqi ) 1316930;1446699567;asciilifeform;https://github.com/ahorn/xv6/blob/master/grep.c 1316931;1446699569;assbot;xv6/grep.c at master · ahorn/xv6 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1WBsuL2 ) 1316932;1446699577;asciilifeform;^ ~100 lines. 1316933;1446699619;asciilifeform;'cat' is 38 lines. 1316934;1446699627;asciilifeform;isn't it a marvel, what these looked like before the cancer ? 1316935;1446699673;asciilifeform;i wonder if anybody's ported fabrice bellard's tinycc compiler to this. 1316936;1446699680;asciilifeform;because then it's a complete and almost usable os. 1316937;1446699705;asciilifeform;which could handily compile itself in a few mSec on boot. 1316938;1446699792;asciilifeform;adding tcp would prolly double or triple the mass, though. 1316939;1446699841;asciilifeform;ditto drivers for any kind of actual iron beyond the interrupt controller and bare bones ata 1316940;1446699915;asciilifeform;interestingly, multiprocessor is supported. 1316941;1446699994;asciilifeform;reading this thing i - astonishingly - don't feel like i'm chewing on gravel 1316942;1446700005;BingoBoingo;LIVING 1316943;1446700008;asciilifeform;which is what reading, e.g., linux kernel, or gpg, feels like 1316944;1446700351;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1316945;1446700367;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 380.387742, vol: 105198.11150770 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 385.119, vol: 828.06894 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 422.675, vol: 122629.81590000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 379.0, vol: 36666.8323811 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 377.0, vol: 744.07905649 | Volume-weighted last average: 399.691877425 1316946;1446700374;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1316947;1446700384;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 413.42, vol: 105197.42750770 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 404.829, vol: 59697.13119 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 414.81, vol: 276471.40389639 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 422.0, vol: 15.52203902 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 459.404, vol: 122609.60230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 409.45669, vol: 439.20838303 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 409.7613, vol: 744.07905649 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1316948;1446700389;BingoBoingo;;;more 1316949;1446700389;gribble;average: 423.160688002 1316950;1446701344;BingoBoingo;http://www.ibtimes.com/us-navy-poised-order-new-boeing-fighters-fa-18-super-hornet-jets-could-be-ordered-2168862 1316951;1446701345;assbot;US Navy Poised To Order New Boeing Fighters, F/A-18 Super Hornet Jets Could Be Ordered Soon ... ( http://bit.ly/1kcbejJ ) 1316952;1446701836;mircea_popescu;" It compiles in a couple of seconds and is trivial to boot up in QEMU." o.O 1316953;1446701878;mircea_popescu;you know this actually sounds rather interesting. why is it that it's not good for us ? 1316954;1446701971;mircea_popescu; adding tcp would prolly double or triple the mass, though << the challenge would be to not write the worst piece of the completed assemblage. 1316955;1446702002;mircea_popescu;"could be ordered soon" wtf news is this 1316956;1446702616;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316953 << add a network stack, nic driver, disk caching (without which no real time bitcoin), then the unspeakable horror of even the smallest known incarnation of libc... 1316957;1446702616;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 05:37:58; mircea_popescu: you know this actually sounds rather interesting. why is it that it's not good for us ? 1316958;1446702620;asciilifeform;and you get linux. 1316959;1446702633;mircea_popescu;why do you need libc again ? 1316960;1446702639;asciilifeform;to build bitcoin ? 1316961;1446702646;mircea_popescu;network stack could actually be purpose built. 1316962;1446702647;mircea_popescu;mno. 1316963;1446702681;asciilifeform;the smallest known tcp stack is that swedish one 1316964;1446702686;asciilifeform;and it's still a mega-turd 1316965;1446702692;mircea_popescu;not what im saying. 1316966;1446702697;asciilifeform;hm? 1316967;1446702705;mircea_popescu;purpose built. it does bitcoin and nothing else. 1316968;1446702721;asciilifeform;bitcoin as presently existing rides on top of tcp. 1316969;1446702725;mircea_popescu;fuck that. 1316970;1446702734;mircea_popescu;it rides on top of qt and bdb, too. 1316971;1446702757;asciilifeform;let's rephrase, it relies on the pipe abstraction 1316972;1446702769;mircea_popescu;and on the boost "abstraction" 1316973;1446702770;asciilifeform;('can throw bytes from point a to point b and back and they get there in order') 1316974;1446702779;mircea_popescu;these aren't abstractions as much as they are infections. 1316975;1446702825;asciilifeform;anyway i'll be the last to cry for tcp. 1316976;1446702856;mircea_popescu;seems this v6 thing would be a great starting point for a great many things. 1316977;1446702860;mircea_popescu;encrypted conn for one. 1316978;1446702919;asciilifeform;thing is, it only looks sexy because there is nothing sitting on it 1316979;1446702923;asciilifeform;it is sorta like minix1 1316980;1446702937;asciilifeform;if it were to be sat upon actual iron, it would very quickly come to resemble minix3. 1316981;1446702943;mircea_popescu;" the challenge would be to not write the worst piece of the completed assemblage." 1316982;1446702961;mircea_popescu;because why ? and don't say gfx card. 1316983;1446702973;asciilifeform;even if you make the networking go over slip (yes, it has uart driver! behold) 1316984;1446702986;asciilifeform;you still gotta cache the disk. 1316985;1446703005;asciilifeform;no way to weasel out of it, if you want to keep up with the blockchain. 1316986;1446703012;mircea_popescu;so you cache the disk. 1316987;1446703040;asciilifeform;and you need a memory allocator. 1316988;1446703042;asciilifeform;which is absent. 1316989;1446703048;asciilifeform;which is actually how i found this thing at all. 1316990;1446703056;asciilifeform;was looking at ancient 'malloc's 1316991;1446703071;mircea_popescu;right. you get one you can trust. 1316992;1446703077;mircea_popescu;like, a rowhammer immune one. 1316993;1446703095;asciilifeform;no such thing on the pc. 1316994;1446703125;asciilifeform;for so long as somebody can lead you to walk contiguous path in ram, you can rowhammer. 1316995;1446703134;asciilifeform;(if you own that particular type of iron) 1316996;1446703148;mircea_popescu;but they can't. 1316997;1446703155;mircea_popescu;because you write your own allocator. 1316998;1446703173;asciilifeform;it still creates contiguous swaths 1316999;1446703186;asciilifeform;because the pc, unlike the lisp, doesn't have 'broken hearts' 1317000;1446703192;mircea_popescu;mmm 1317001;1446703206;asciilifeform;(these were magical bits that one could set in any memory word, that would cause it to transparently redirect to another word) 1317002;1446703219;asciilifeform;it abolished the need for actual continuity in allocated segments. 1317003;1446703234;asciilifeform;but at the obvious cost of... well, having such things kicking around. 1317004;1446703250;asciilifeform;like so many little wormholes. 1317005;1446703261;asciilifeform;*the lispm 1317006;1446703307;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 1317007;1446703312;gribble;Current Blocks: 382118 | Current Difficulty: 6.225398244976082E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 383039 | Next Difficulty In: 921 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 20 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 1317008;1446703494;asciilifeform;at any rate, the correct way to build memory is - cons cells. as in, every addressable unit actually contains a word followed by another which acts solely as an address of 'next word.' 1317009;1446703540;mircea_popescu;but that aside : if you build your own allocator you can do a lot of things you wish you could have done. 1317010;1446703541;asciilifeform;when you desperately need speed / compactness, you use 'cdr coding' which is a cheat whereby you set a bit in the former word which signifies 'next is not an address but actually the next word.' 1317011;1446703572;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: in so far as the code is c code and the allocator needs to return contiguous regions of ram, you end up with malloc. 1317012;1446703585;mircea_popescu;no 1317013;1446703591;mircea_popescu;you end up with WHAT YOU THINK MALLOC IS. 1317014;1446703603;mircea_popescu;but dollars to donuts that is pointedly not what malloc actuyally is. 1317015;1446703631;*;asciilifeform was researching this very this 1317016;1446703661;mircea_popescu;"this very this" lol. i'm not going to even research it. i know it's what the nexus of all diddlery would have to be if i was running the diddle department. 1317017;1446703681;mircea_popescu;subtle, yes. there. has got to be there. 1317018;1446703692;asciilifeform;if you want to laugh, cry, read the one in gpg 1.4.10. 1317019;1446703697;mircea_popescu;noty 1317020;1446703707;asciilifeform;(which has fudge factors, even, yes!) 1317021;1446703722;asciilifeform;and rides on top of the system malloc at the same time (yes) 1317022;1446703740;mircea_popescu;larger amt of phone number is always best 1317023;1446703789;asciilifeform;this is one of the problems i've been fighting with for perhaps a year now. 1317024;1446703815;asciilifeform;and the only promising heuristic thus far is a somewhat mircea_popescuine one - namely, to de-generalize the problem 1317025;1446703834;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: myes, although mayhap we talk of different things 1317026;1446703858;asciilifeform;(don't guarantee any arbitrary allocs whenever, but only bignums and only in strictly defined progression) 1317027;1446703861;mircea_popescu;there should, i imagine, be a way to extract significant cheating out of the fact that we don't intend to support random gunk. 1317028;1446703865;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes what do you have in mind ? 1317029;1446703884;ben_vulpes;various kinds of salaried and hourly employment. yourself? 1317030;1446703915;ben_vulpes;"employ" in the states is a peculiar contractual arrangement where the employer agrees to remit taxes on behalf of the employed. 1317031;1446703943;mircea_popescu;well, ok, but specifically. sf salary + benefits ? oregon salary + sorta ? low salary + equity ? 1317032;1446703960;mircea_popescu;and doing what, webstuff in java only ? or ? 1317033;1446703973;ben_vulpes;ah 1317034;1446704073;ben_vulpes;i pay technical staff hourly rates such that should staff choose to work a 35+ hour week, they'd make depending on their value to my org ±10% of a bigcorp salary. 1317035;1446704094;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla listen, im running into a whole fucking list of problems with all the shitty dust people send to bitbet. do you suppose we put in a progressive fee structure ? like "fee is a minimum of 0.0001, + 10% of everything under 0.01 + 1% of rest ? 1317036;1446704121;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: l0l srsly, 10%?!! what are they, legless cambodians, hanging in nets ? 1317037;1446704128;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes and do you have workload they can actually work 35 hour weeks every week ? and doing what, tech wise ? js ? ruby ? py ? perl ? 1317038;1446704139;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform +-10% means 90 to 110% 1317039;1446704142;asciilifeform;ah 1317040;1446704152;*;asciilifeform has been, perhaps, out of bed for too long 1317041;1446704152;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: heh. 1317042;1446704250;ben_vulpes;re technologies, we do mobile in obj-c, swift (i guess theoretically), java, server stuff in python/django/whatever, ruby/rails/whatever, java/clojure/{it's all algol you know}, and actual web stuff in whatever hodgepodge of html/css and js is already in place or pretty well-curated tools that...abstract over the hodgepodge to one degree or another. 1317043;1446704289;mircea_popescu;well... asciilifeform meet ben_vulpes ; ben_vulpes meet asciilifeform 1317044;1446704303;asciilifeform;i think i met ben_vulpes somewhere 1317045;1446704305;asciilifeform;l0l 1317046;1446704306;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: staff are guaranteed 32 hours/wk, client work backstopped out of my pocket. 1317047;1446704337;ben_vulpes;i can always cook up work for people to do on my own tooling. 1317048;1446704351;mircea_popescu;alfie grew an extra hand, was looking for exactly this type of flexible deal to help pay for his latest nuclear missile arrangement. 1317049;1446704367;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: you're familiar with stan's line about "working on anything not of my own mind is only slightly better than suicide"? 1317050;1446704379;mircea_popescu;eh fuck him, what, he gets a say now ? 1317051;1446704419;asciilifeform;eh i do items like 'port $proggy to $toaster' 1317052;1446704435;asciilifeform;or 'determine if this hdd is able to serve up diddled boot sector.' 1317053;1446704437;ben_vulpes;well should i need someone to port eulora to ipad i'll ring him up 1317054;1446704444;asciilifeform;do. 1317055;1446704461;asciilifeform;will port to supernintendo if someone wants. 1317056;1446704501;ben_vulpes;as it stands, he hates the kind of work my shop does, and i have a list of people who also hate the kind of work that we do but also find the company company so beguiling that they're willing and sometimes even eager to do it anyways. 1317057;1446704570;*;asciilifeform cannot compete with coolies either in cost or in enthusiasm 1317058;1446704577;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform knows: life in the galleys is marginally less miserable with phri3ndz 1317059;1446704584;asciilifeform;aha. 1317060;1446704655;ben_vulpes;not eager to do it, i misspoke. eager to spend time in our mines rather than wherever they slave normally. 1317061;1446704661;ben_vulpes;oh and shut the fuck up 1317062;1446704669;ben_vulpes;i know your rates, and you could live comfortably out here. 1317063;1446704704;ben_vulpes;220V, 3 phase, a poured pad, and nobody would bat an eye if you weather-proofed the ADU. 1317064;1446704744;asciilifeform;not looking for indenture with quarter. more of an old-fashioned thing-with-deliverables 1317065;1446704773;ben_vulpes;d'you know? i only landed my first of those within the past month. 1317066;1446704780;asciilifeform;congrats ben_vulpes 1317067;1446704833;ben_vulpes;operating as a corporation rather than an individual has benefits like that. 1317068;1446704915;ben_vulpes;much like picking up chixx, it's easier if you have a few in tow already. 1317069;1446704996;ben_vulpes;also worth mentioning that gracefully handling rapidly shifting requirements is core to how the business operates. 1317070;1446705025;asciilifeform;i suppose this means that ben_vulpes is also ready to port to supernintendo. 1317071;1446705090;ben_vulpes;port natoblock $thing, sure. 1317072;1446705133;ben_vulpes;!s bezzlecorp 1317073;1446705133;assbot;2 results for 'bezzlecorp' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bezzlecorp 1317074;1446705153;ben_vulpes;it is purpose designed, asciilifeform. 1317075;1446705163;*;asciilifeform remembers very well what ben_vulpes's shop makes, from hanging out at c3. 1317076;1446705228;*;ben_vulpes is unsure if this is wankery or pricing exercise 1317077;1446705246;*;mircea_popescu wonders himself. 1317078;1446705253;asciilifeform;prolly the former 1317079;1446705282;mircea_popescu;mkay. 1317080;1446705341;ben_vulpes;if i find anything, i'll let you know 1317081;1446705352;asciilifeform;ty. 1317082;1446705362;asciilifeform;or wake me up if folks start paying for sunlight, aha. 1317083;1446705379;ben_vulpes;if you want intros to indenturitude, i can provide this as well. 1317084;1446705388;asciilifeform;no but ty. 1317085;1446705426;ben_vulpes;culture out here is such that you can skirt by for ~30/wk and a relatively cheap commute, with no "lifetime commitment". 1317086;1446705438;ben_vulpes;this provides for some small amount of thinking time. 1317087;1446705466;mircea_popescu;o.O 1317088;1446705468;asciilifeform;not interested in indenture. 1317089;1446705468;mircea_popescu;30 whats ? 1317090;1446705475;ben_vulpes;hrs 1317091;1446705502;mircea_popescu;ah ah 1317092;1446705608;asciilifeform;at any rate, i must confess that i don't do www or ipnohe for any amount of pay. 1317093;1446705613;ben_vulpes;do consider the improvement in the serf's quality of life when biking (or walking!) thirty minutes to and fro the galley each day, compared to the hour in the wheelbox each direction that can be had in other places, composed with the shorter work week that is possible. 1317094;1446705639;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: for log readers only, this confession. 1317095;1446705644;asciilifeform;aha. 1317096;1446705655;ben_vulpes;and googOS? 1317097;1446705658;asciilifeform;ditto 1317098;1446705661;mircea_popescu;not necessarily unrelated, http://38.media.tumblr.com/d9339db6fd73911e33ca9b1641e31b12/tumblr_n5mvjw7ee01ts9k3wo1_400.gif 1317099;1446705662;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoiT9Q ) 1317100;1446705679;asciilifeform;^ aha this is a good picture of www programming. 1317101;1446705698;mircea_popescu;anyway, this "can't have X, can't have non-X" sorta thing will necessarily resolve itself in time. there's no other way. 1317102;1446705821;asciilifeform;guess what, i don't give milk either. 1317103;1446705848;asciilifeform;or lay eggs. 1317104;1446705857;mircea_popescu;also liable to resolve in time 1317105;1446705873;mircea_popescu;random thought of the day : wtf is this "boyfriend" bs. girlfriend i can see, but it's manfriend innit. 1317106;1446705894;asciilifeform;why not 'cockfriend' 1317107;1446705912;mircea_popescu;maybe if you're gay. 1317108;1446705944;asciilifeform;does have that flavour, doesntit 1317109;1446707700;liquidassets;Boyfriend suggests, ‘he’s not fucking other women just me’ Manfriend, not so. 1317110;1446708689;BingoBoingo;Boyfriend suggest alterboy being buggered over the altar 1317111;1446708945;punkman;guten morgen 1317112;1446710503;punkman;heh http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/04/pentagon-farmed-out-its-coding-to-russia.html 1317113;1446710504;assbot;Pentagon Farmed Out Its Coding to Russia - The Daily Beast ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsLbJM ) 1317114;1446717812;thestringpuller;;;ticker 1317115;1446717813;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.52, Best ask: 383.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 383.52, 24 hour volume: 286173.58836608, 24 hour low: 366.66, 24 hour high: 504.0, 24 hour vwap: None 1317116;1446720345;davout;messieurs dames 1317117;1446725969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 2360 @ 0.00059225 = 1.3977 BTC [+] {7} 1317118;1446726335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 2246 @ 0.00073859 = 1.6589 BTC [+] {11} 1317119;1446727361;punkman;dat havelock action 1317120;1446728905;jurov;i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync 1317121;1446728950;jurov;returned to 0.10 which works 1317122;1446728952;shinohai;;;later tell SuchWow Your quit message is atrocious. "This too is temporary, as most things are" reduces your comma usage and makes you not sound like a hippy. 1317123;1446728952;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1317124;1446728993;shinohai;jurov: I have had same results. it won't sync against new core. 1317125;1446729140;punkman;what happens with 0.11? 1317126;1446729286;shinohai;I can't get core to not crash 0.11 xD 1317127;1446729310;shinohai;I have an old 0.10.0 binary that does. 1317128;1446729546;jurov;punkman, on superficial look it does not return getblock() data anymore 1317129;1446729660;punkman;jurov, does the 0.11 instance ban the 0.5.4? 1317130;1446729776;jurov;at first it did 1317131;1446729813;jurov;then i tried to set MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION = 0 in 0.11 1317132;1446729828;jurov;then 0.5.4 connected but could not get data 1317133;1446729870;jurov;then i returned to 0.10 and left further research for later 1317134;1446730085;shinohai;I can't say for certain until I clone my drive, had to idle it for a bit. 1317135;1446730111;shinohai;Got new shitty 500 mb drive yesterday from china! :D 1317136;1446731603;punkman;http://qz.com/540571/baidu-found-chinas-ghost-cities-but-it-is-keeping-their-locations-mostly-a-secret/ 1317137;1446731604;assbot;Baidu found China’s “ghost cities,” but it is keeping their locations mostly a secret - Quartz ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRCXz2 ) 1317138;1446731895;shinohai;http://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-personal-marijuana-use-1446670474 << haz paywall sorry 1317139;1446731896;assbot;Mexico’s Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Personal Marijuana Use - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRDDEx ) 1317140;1446736098;asciilifeform;jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317133 << out of curiosity, what are you using the usg client for ? 1317141;1446736098;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 13:24:30; jurov: then i returned to 0.10 and left further research for later 1317142;1446736150;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317131 << might want to patch trb's version thing instead 1317143;1446736150;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 13:23:33; jurov: then i tried to set MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION = 0 in 0.11 1317144;1446741668;mircea_popescu;liquidassets which is the point. 1317145;1446741688;mircea_popescu; Pentagon Farmed Out Its Coding to Russia - The Daily Beast << ahahahaha no, really ? 1317146;1446741712;mircea_popescu; i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync << this is a horribru error message. 1317147;1446741759;mircea_popescu; punkman, on superficial look it does not return getblock() data anymore << nuts. so 0.11 is forked off the network then ? 1317148;1446742021;mircea_popescu;https://blockchain.info/charts/output-volume << loller. 1317149;1446742021;assbot;Bitcoin Total Output Volume ... ( http://bit.ly/1WCGRyD ) 1317150;1446742455;thestringpuller;what's with reddit complaining about the blocksize bullshit again? 1317151;1446742537;trinque;The Department of Defense's posture on cybersecurity ultimately affects national security. << There's a deep cultural flaw in this sentence emanating from the word posture. 1317152;1446742632;mircea_popescu;why ? the country admits it's posturing. 1317153;1446742636;trinque;the notion that merely looking like the thing you wish to be is sufficient has seeped into everything 1317154;1446742638;trinque;right 1317155;1446742643;mircea_popescu;this is good. 1317156;1446742661;mircea_popescu;thank you for your leadership. 1317157;1446742696;punkman;so according to that chart 11million btc moved in a day? 1317158;1446742736;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't think it's worth a crap in absolute terms. 1317159;1446742741;mircea_popescu;"~5x more than previously average" 1317160;1446742756;mircea_popescu;within an unknown error margin. 1317161;1446742781;punkman;days destroyed is much smoother 1317162;1446742794;mircea_popescu;which indicates that it's mostly people moving the same btc back and forth. 1317163;1446742818;mircea_popescu;ie, that same 1-2% of the coins that are in hands of self important usg ceo/vc types. 1317164;1446742841;mircea_popescu;my god, ceo is going to go the way of nigger and handicapped within my lifetime isn't it. 1317165;1446742846;mircea_popescu;it already is practically an insult. 1317166;1446744332;mircea_popescu;and mpex is back. sorry for the downtime everyone. 1317167;1446744542;*;adlai is surprised nobody has yet accused the marshals of building the recent eiffel tower, as auction optimization 1317168;1446744749;punkman;the what? 1317169;1446744799;adlai;patternspeak for up-and-down. i'm probably misusing it, iirc it's only an eiffel if the down returns to levels before the up 1317170;1446745001;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00054231 = 15.8355 BTC [+] {2} 1317171;1446745733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2360 @ 0.00053447 = 1.2613 BTC [-] {2} 1317172;1446745916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43750 @ 0.00053447 = 23.3831 BTC [-] 1317173;1446746980;mircea_popescu;adlai because it's not true. they get accused of the scams they actually pull. 1317174;1446747118;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.33730996 BTC on 'Yes' - Luke Skywalker Turns To The Dark Side In Episode VII - http://bitbet.us/bet/1218/luke-skywalker-turns-to-the-dark-side-in/#b7 1317175;1446747466;mircea_popescu;jurov : qntra shares added. 1317176;1446747685;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42793 @ 0.00054238 = 23.2101 BTC [+] {7} 1317177;1446747921;PeterL;mircea_popescu: so what was the problem with MPEx? 1317178;1446747950;mircea_popescu;yes. 1317179;1446747999;adlai;!b 2 1317180;1446748000;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/39NEZA9.txt ) 1317181;1446748362;deedbot-;[Trilema] Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/qntra-sqntr-october-2015-statement/ 1317182;1446748415;PeterL;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315952 << You are saying chemistry is not still alive? Seems to me that there is alot going on in chem right now? 1317183;1446748415;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:01:40; asciilifeform: which more or less died out as a scientific field in the 'civilized' world. 1317184;1446748483;mircea_popescu;jurov ^ qntra shares added, also. 1317185;1446748491;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1317186;1446748517;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: my broadcast later tonight when i get out of the pit 1317187;1446748524;mircea_popescu;cool ascii_field 1317188;1446748563;ascii_field;PeterL: most of what's happening in chem is a) usg grantsmanship b) monkey tricks to extend pharma patents. and most of what remains is being done by folks who grew up with hobby chemistry. 1317189;1446748700;PeterL;There is also chemistry research at, for example, Dow Chemical, which they don't publish but instead use to make themselves money, does this not count? 1317190;1446748735;ascii_field;PeterL: in so far as i can see from my perch, nothing fundamental has happened in at least a generation. 1317191;1446748741;ascii_field;whole thing runs on 1960s fumes. 1317192;1446748746;mircea_popescu;we were just discussing tropsch last week! 1317193;1446748750;mircea_popescu;lots is happening. 1317194;1446748757;ascii_field;nothing fundamental. 1317195;1446748762;ascii_field;e.g., nylon. 1317196;1446748770;mircea_popescu;catalysts are fundamental enough. 1317197;1446748774;ascii_field;it's massage. 1317198;1446748782;ascii_field;e.g., +10% yield, -10% cost 1317199;1446748785;ascii_field;like semiconductors. 1317200;1446748786;mircea_popescu;yes well nothing fundamental has happened in physics since mendeleev 1317201;1446748793;mircea_popescu;what the fuck's gonna happen, invent a new electron load ? 1317202;1446748815;PeterL;there is alot of organic synthesis space that has been investigated since then 1317203;1446748819;ascii_field;fission's pretty fundamental. even something like tunnel diode. 1317204;1446748828;mircea_popescu;so then catalytic chemistry counts. 1317205;1446748851;PeterL;a bunch of small improvements adds up over time 1317206;1446748863;mircea_popescu;how the fuck do you think you have genome sequencing, otherwise, and why the fuck do you think woman's stockings is a bigger deal. 1317207;1446748871;ascii_field;it'd be fundamental if it opens up a whole concept that was previously closed. e.g., if a catalyst were to be found that makes electrolysis of h2o reasonably efficient 1317208;1446748897;ascii_field;or room temp supercon. 1317209;1446748898;ascii_field;etc 1317210;1446748938;PeterL;I see, if you push the goal posts far enough away then nobody will ever score 1317211;1446748953;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: yer looking in the wrong end of the funnel. yes, women still wear stockings, but american south no longer can have plantations, because the fiber doesn't grow out of the ground. 1317212;1446748964;ascii_field;but comes out of a nozzle in cn. 1317213;1446749019;ascii_field;PeterL: there is such a thing as invention. 1317214;1446749038;ascii_field;and it - for the most part - isn't happening. 1317215;1446749045;PeterL;but you are saying only super-invention counts? 1317216;1446749051;mircea_popescu;this is nonsense, srlsy. the 70s-90s in catalysts are more important than anything that ever happened in chemistry. 1317217;1446749058;ascii_field;didn't say 'useless' 1317218;1446749062;mircea_popescu;you can fucking go around looking for biosynthesizers now, for this reason 1317219;1446749063;ascii_field;just - not fundamental. 1317220;1446749092;ascii_field;'fundamental' is an actual thing. it doesn't resolve to 'very spiffy', it has a meaning 1317221;1446749107;mircea_popescu;it IS fundamental. 1317222;1446749110;ascii_field;as in, you can build ~new~ structure on it 1317223;1446749111;mircea_popescu;what is your definition ? 1317224;1446749115;mircea_popescu;yes, new structure. 1317225;1446749121;ascii_field;the 17th floor of empire state bldg is not a fundament. 1317226;1446749133;mircea_popescu;but the FACT that now there are 17 floor buildings IS fundament. 1317227;1446749147;PeterL;but without the 17th floor you can't build the 18th floor 1317228;1446749148;mircea_popescu;i don't care you sat on your tatched roof in mongolia and thus "dreamed" of skyscraper. 1317229;1446749203;ascii_field;bldg has a foundation. it is different from the other parts of the structure in that it lets you start having floors where prior you could only sit down in the dirt. 1317230;1446749240;ascii_field;this is not a moral judgement, just an observation - you need different people for the foundation of a concept, than for 17th floor 1317231;1446749311;ascii_field;poor old j.c.maxwell gets no rest when this comes up, but i'ma have to use him as example again. he didn't even bother ~trying~ to build a radio... 1317232;1446749321;mircea_popescu;you've still not defined your "fundamental" "actula thing" 1317233;1446749322;ascii_field;though he derived all of the maths that have or will ever apply. 1317234;1446749351;ascii_field;~that~'s fundamental. 1317235;1446749362;ascii_field;yesterday no one knew em wave was a thing. and then - it is. 1317236;1446749377;mircea_popescu;and you expect this to happen in chemistry ? 1317237;1446749390;mircea_popescu;it never happened in chemistry. it was always physics. 1317238;1446749390;ascii_field;it was happening as late as 1960s 1317239;1446749394;mircea_popescu;was not. 1317240;1446749403;mircea_popescu;this is like complaining electric engineering didn't invent any new type of electron. 1317241;1446749404;ascii_field;belousov-zhabotinsky reaction. 1317242;1446749409;mircea_popescu;of course it doesn't. it's engineering. 1317243;1446749411;mircea_popescu;lol ? 1317244;1446749428;mircea_popescu;THAT is fundamental, catalythics are now ? 1317245;1446749433;mircea_popescu;not* ? what are you, hungarian ? 1317246;1446749445;ascii_field;it was utterly fundamental 1317247;1446749463;mircea_popescu;less words more proof. 1317248;1446749465;ascii_field;startling to the point that nato lands shelved it as sov disinfo for decades 1317249;1446749480;mircea_popescu;what nato does informs no one to no degree. 1317250;1446749480;ascii_field;proved that thermodynamics is only stochastically applicable. 1317251;1446749502;ascii_field;(that energy is only conserved on a large enough time scale) 1317252;1446749529;ascii_field;aww i ~liked~ kakobreklaa 1317253;1446749531;ascii_field;so finnish 1317254;1446749531;mircea_popescu;but by your very definition this is not a fundamental result. 1317255;1446749539;mircea_popescu;it is merely the experimental verification of the theoretically obvious 1317256;1446749556;mircea_popescu;ever since qm reduced macro tm to the status of macro tm 1317257;1446749596;mircea_popescu;!up kakobreklaa 1317258;1446749600;kakobreklaa;fuckin chanserv 1317259;1446749607;mircea_popescu;hola! 1317260;1446749607;kakobreklaa;nickserv i mean 1317261;1446749614;kakobreklaa;hi 1317262;1446749627;mircea_popescu;this inspires me! tonight ima have one girl write nickserv on her pubis, and the other chanserv 1317263;1446749633;mircea_popescu;boi o boi am i hgonna have a fun 1317264;1446749640;ascii_field;http://www.ux.uis.no/~ruoff/BZ_Phenomenology.html 1317265;1446749641;assbot;BZ-Phenomenology ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdhdBA ) 1317266;1446749683;mircea_popescu;"In its classical form the BZ reaction consist of a one-electron redox catalyst" 1317267;1446749697;mircea_popescu;aka "let's ignore what's being said and run off with one marginal example of the broad category discussed". 1317268;1446749710;kakobreklaa;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317035 < i dont see how this fixes your dust problems - you may feel better handling it but you still need to handle it. i suspect you let some retarded algo chose your tx outputs for you amirite? 1317269;1446749710;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 06:14:54; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla listen, im running into a whole fucking list of problems with all the shitty dust people send to bitbet. do you suppose we put in a progressive fee structure ? like "fee is a minimum of 0.0001, + 10% of everything under 0.01 + 1% of rest ? 1317270;1446749717;ascii_field;iirc mircea_popescu was speaking of petro cracking catalysts earlier ? 1317271;1446749729;ascii_field;which are '% massage' rather than 'new field' 1317272;1446749735;mircea_popescu;no. speaking of catalythic chemistry. as a thing. which it is. 1317273;1446749752;mircea_popescu;and my examples were around genome research and biosynthesizer identification 1317274;1446749760;mircea_popescu;neither of which can be read reductionistically to "petrochem". 1317275;1446749770;mircea_popescu;kakobreklaa it will discourage people from sending them. 1317276;1446749780;kakobreklaa;lol, like poorfags read 1317277;1446749784;ascii_field;these last two, i had the misfortune to be involved in. 1317278;1446749792;mircea_popescu;it's also a problem of cost. dust txn impose a cost on us. 1317279;1446749805;mircea_popescu;currently this CAN work as an extraction engine - it costs me more to make the payouts than i take in. 1317280;1446749839;ascii_field;l0lwut, bitbet is undergoing shitburial ? 1317281;1446749841;mircea_popescu;ascii_field so you hate them, that's fine, but you can't impugn the whole subdiscipline just because idiots somewhere 1317282;1446749842;kakobreklaa;if you leave dust sitting long enough and at some point flush all the dust in a single tx to a nondusty result ? 1317283;1446749860;mircea_popescu;"long enough" = cost ; flush = cost. etc. 1317284;1446749875;mircea_popescu;it is not worth my time to handle 10k satoshi txn for less than 10k satoshi. this is a fact. 1317285;1446749876;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: i don't hate'em, but i did search in vain for signs that somebody was ~thinking~ rather than merely piling intel xeons ten metres high 1317286;1446749896;ascii_field;and doing dynamics sims 1317287;1446749899;kakobreklaa;the long enough cost on dust is dust. 1317288;1446749927;mircea_popescu;think that i have to keep SOME dust over here while idiots get aggitated because "o noes it's been 25 hours" so im now creating more dust 1317289;1446749938;mircea_popescu;which will come back to me, and i have to sit on it, and create more dust to payout. 1317290;1446749960;mircea_popescu;i suppose if you prefer i can instead make it a time rule, and be like "bets under 0.0001 are paid in a year. bets under 0.01 are paid in a week" 1317291;1446749968;mircea_popescu;seems it is saner to be paid in money than in time, to me. 1317292;1446749981;kakobreklaa;so you wanna make poorfags even poorer to a point where they no longer send a satoshi, is this the idea? 1317293;1446750019;mircea_popescu;they can save up. 1317294;1446750023;kakobreklaa;l0l 1317295;1446750034;mircea_popescu;there is no reason under the sun to process, manage, consider or in any way interact with subdollar transactions. 1317296;1446750039;phf;v6 is a beauty, but for the amount of stuff that's required to be written why not lisp os? 1317297;1446750040;punkman;why not a minimum bet amount, everything else gracious donation 1317298;1446750045;mircea_popescu;it's just not worth anyone's time for them to exist. 1317299;1446750061;mircea_popescu;punkman kinda what i was proposing, a progressive scale. imo the way i stated it is better pr, but whatevs. 1317300;1446750063;ascii_field;phf: i was trying to see if anyone comes to this conclusion independently of my saying it. 1317301;1446750077;mircea_popescu;phf because unix runs on 486 and lisp does not. 1317302;1446750080;ascii_field;phf: THE SIMPLEST malloc() is 10x more complicated than, e.g, the gc engine in 'tinyscheme' 1317303;1446750088;ascii_field;and it sure as fuck runs on 486 1317304;1446750091;mircea_popescu;anyway, im off will bbl. 1317305;1446750094;ascii_field;and even 16bit micro. 1317306;1446750107;mircea_popescu;ascii_field god damned weren't you going on about how it needs sbcl machine bla bla ? 1317307;1446750115;ascii_field;for periphs 1317308;1446750121;mircea_popescu;this goalpost moving is giving me spots on the spleen. 1317309;1446750123;ascii_field;if you want to use it as a graphical terminal 1317310;1446750130;ascii_field;let's not mix the warm and the soft 1317311;1446750144;ascii_field;i have raw scheme going on x64 metal right now 1317312;1446750147;ascii_field;just no useful i/o. 1317313;1446750164;phf;mircea_popescu: i'm just stirring shit up 1317314;1446750184;PeterL;mircea_popescu: there is no reason under the sun to process, manage, consider or in any way interact with subdollar transactions. << you are going to link min bet amounts to the USD/BTC price now? are you going to have the website show the "estimated $ amount" like the VC circus sites do? 1317315;1446750194;mircea_popescu;anyway bbl fo reals. 1317316;1446750229;kakobreklaa;way cooler to just do it arbitrarily. 1317317;1446750432;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1317318;1446750463;phf;ascii_field: my undergrad "thesis" was putting a malloc on a one of those teaching os's, it was interesting in that "wrestling with bare metal" sort of way, but then i learned how lispm does it, and realized that i was lied to 1317319;1446750512;ascii_field;aha 1317320;1446750521;ascii_field;phf: i tried to explain some of this in last night's thread 1317321;1446750548;ascii_field;but realized that my interlocutors did not know the fundamentals involved (because scarcely anybody does, and not everyone is an archaeologist) 1317322;1446750805;thestringpuller;phf: ugh they made you do that shit too? we had to write malloc for the game boy advance, or a game boy advance game for a final project for course in C 1317323;1446751272;phf;ascii_field: that's the problem with a lot of lisp conversations here, your interlocutors have some vague idea about how things are done right now and in unix world. even unixisms are used not in their "pure form", but in their final gnu/linux state. there's complete lack of semantic match between that and historical lisp. ultimately debates are reduced to "macros are bad because cpp is bad" 1317324;1446751302;ascii_field;or 'gc sux because java' 1317325;1446751305;ascii_field;etc 1317326;1446751307;phf;right 1317327;1446751393;kakobreklaa;live and learn 1317328;1446751441;thestringpuller;!up kakobreklaa 1317329;1446751637;shinohai;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/us/louisiana-police-shooting-marksville.html?_r=0 1317330;1446751640;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZN6FY ) 1317331;1446751653;jurov;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317140 << for electrum server 1317332;1446751653;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 15:08:18; asciilifeform: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317133 << out of curiosity, what are you using the usg client for ? 1317333;1446751716;ascii_field;jurov: do i understand, this needs a heavily patched client ? 1317334;1446751728;ascii_field;and only available presently for the heathen one ? 1317335;1446751738;lobbes;kakobreklaa: fuckin chanserv << I know what you mean. I had to ghost my nick off earlier 1317336;1446751803;phf;thestringpuller: it wasn't actually forced. started as a final project in william arbaugh's (the guy who did the smooth handover wireless implementation at umd) class, where we were writing a malloc for the teaching os as a final project, only three mallocs came anywhere near the spec, since mine was one of them i had the opportunity to say that the whole thing was a sham "shit code written by retards", etc. and that you can have orders 1317337;1446751803;phf;of magnitude improvements and that the whole thing is not even funny. he suggested that i do an implementation as an indepedent study for another semester and that's what i did 1317338;1446751860;*;ascii_field remembers this os 1317339;1446751915;phf;i've been trying very hard for the past 15 minutes to remember its name or anything about it, and even though i spent 8 months with it, i'm completely failing to 1317340;1446751916;ascii_field;that was where i learned to despise unix. 1317341;1446751934;ascii_field;in my era it was named 'geek os' but it had some earlier name. 1317342;1446751952;PeterL;if unix is so horrible, why is there no alternative taking over the world? 1317343;1446751977;PeterL;oh, wait, windows already did, right? 1317344;1446752039;ascii_field;PeterL: iron 1317345;1446752058;PeterL;the element? 1317346;1446752076;ascii_field;no, the element is mainly si 1317347;1446752334;trinque;PeterL: are you arguing from the wisdom of the mass market customer? 1317348;1446752342;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1317349;1446752349;ascii_field;i'ma do a worked example for PeterL 1317350;1446752352;ascii_field;so here goes. 1317351;1446752371;ascii_field;your NIC, regardless of who built it, operates with ring buffers, roughly like this 1317352;1446752375;PeterL;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1316588 << when I was in middle school we went on a field trip to the Warren (MI) Army Tank Plant, tour included the Cray II, cool looking room sized machine with liquid cooling fluid bubbling over its brain 1317353;1446752375;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 01:07:56; asciilifeform: at any rate, i (and $maxint others) will port $whateverthefuckyouwant to, e.g., cray II. for a fee. 1317354;1446752420;ascii_field;when a packet comes in over the wire, it gets thrown into a buffer pointed to by a particular register in the card's cpu, and the latter reads the addr of the next buffer from a pre-baked list 1317355;1446752429;ascii_field;and rotates through said list. 1317356;1446752434;ascii_field;ditto for transmission. 1317357;1446752445;PeterL;trinque: yes, sarcasm flag operational, mostly 1317358;1446752452;ascii_field;but what if - per last night's thread - you decided that you DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT STRINGS AS CONTIGUOUS BYTES ? 1317359;1446752456;ascii_field;but rather, as cons cells? 1317360;1446752472;ascii_field;where each character is stored in half of a word, with the other half being a pointer to the next char ? 1317361;1446752503;PeterL;wouldn't that make strings take up twice as much memory? 1317362;1446752503;ascii_field;suddenly you need a massive 'bureaucracy' to convert between the contiguous blobs your devices eat and shit, and your notion. 1317363;1446752516;ascii_field;PeterL: see 'cdr coding' for why this does not have to be the case 1317364;1446752550;ascii_field;i picked this example out of a tall hat with many others, to demonstrate the impedance mismatch between the lisp way of doing things and pc iron 1317365;1446752562;ascii_field;and how it cannot be cleanly papered over in software. 1317366;1446752609;ascii_field;AND this is a device for which we HAVE the specs ! 1317367;1446752613;ascii_field;for most pc iron - we do not... 1317368;1446752621;ascii_field;and worse, ~think~ that we do. 1317369;1446752630;ascii_field;!s intel me 1317370;1446752631;assbot;21 results for 'intel me' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=intel+me 1317371;1446752679;ascii_field;i am deliberately not even mentioning gpu, because it is possible to have a useful computer with no vga board (e.g., you can speak x11 over tcp) 1317372;1446752682;ascii_field;but you do need the nic. 1317373;1446752741;ascii_field;likewise, pc arch is braindamaged in 1,001 ways which are NOT realistically correctable, and certainly not in software 1317374;1446752751;ascii_field;e.g., there is no powerfail interrupt 1317375;1446752764;ascii_field;nor any built-in provision for battery-backed transactional ram 1317376;1446752776;PeterL;so the only way to get a better operating system is to start with purpose built hardware? 1317377;1446752779;ascii_field;yes. 1317378;1446752826;ascii_field;i learned this the hard way. 1317379;1446752888;ascii_field;and all questions of os aside, you will need to bake own silicon if you don't like running usg blobs. 1317380;1446752908;ascii_field;(the odds are very good that your southbridge is running just one such as we speak.) 1317381;1446753006;ascii_field;even if we ignore the profound braindamage of the x86 arch - instruction set, memory structure, clumsily retrofitted multiprocessor, etc. - 1317382;1446753147;ascii_field;the basic fact is that no two x86 pc boxes can be relied upon to have the same iron 1317383;1446753157;PeterL;If you hypothetically could make your own silicon, and "real computer", do you think it could ever displace the entrenched systems everybody is currently using? 1317384;1446753166;ascii_field;so now you have to constantly chase the largely nonexistent docs for new southbridge, etc 1317385;1446753182;ascii_field;PeterL: no likelier than bitcoin displacing usd 1317386;1446753214;ascii_field;or 'mazerati' killing 'ford'. 1317387;1446753254;ascii_field;and you can't somehow beat microshit and crapple by competing on an imaginary playing field 1317388;1446753256;ascii_field;there is no playing field 1317389;1446753258;PeterL;derpiest will continue running winblows 1317390;1446753261;ascii_field;there is usg diktat and that's it. 1317391;1446753287;ascii_field;it'd have to be a computer for 100 people. 1317392;1446753289;trinque;PeterL: this assumes that the same group of derps will continue to exist forever 1317393;1446753292;ascii_field;i do not know how to make a cpu for 100 people. 1317394;1446753323;PeterL;lacks a certain "economy of scale" 1317395;1446753336;trinque;sounds more like "will this superior military weapon ever supercede this other weaker weapon in terms of market penetration?" 1317396;1446753342;trinque;well. yes, but not that way 1317397;1446753480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19974 @ 0.00053447 = 10.6755 BTC [-] 1317398;1446753565;PeterL;military weapons measure penetration by inches of steel, not percentages of market 1317399;1446753602;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00053447 = 3.5275 BTC [-] {2} 1317400;1446753605;trinque;that was not the point. 1317401;1446753668;trinque;if I have 10 nukes and you have 100 artillery in a fortress, and I nuke the fortress, does a nuke silo spring up in its midst? 1317402;1446753756;trinque;quantity is not the only consideration, nor is everyone on the same side 1317403;1446753758;PeterL;so "real computer" takes over when "winblows users" all die off? 1317404;1446753936;trinque;takes over what? who cares if some poor guy still has an iPhone? 1317405;1446753980;ascii_field;PeterL: the notion of 'takes over' is broken 1317406;1446753985;ascii_field;so you are reasoning with broken priors. 1317407;1446754022;PeterL;trying to fit trinque's nuke-artillery metaphore onto computers, clearly failing 1317408;1446754034;ascii_field;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3140985758772364@naggum.no.html << see also. 1317409;1446754035;assbot;Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GNEnfd ) 1317410;1446754095;ascii_field;in particular, 1317411;1446754096;ascii_field;'when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most -- there is no longer a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual "winner", and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory.' 1317412;1446754115;ascii_field;microshit's very existence has deformed thought processes of a great many people. 1317413;1446754187;PeterL;!up ascii_field 1317414;1446754279;ascii_field;PeterL: one of the things to understand is that your computer is the way it is because the 'computing industry' consists of 1,001 people mutually sucking one another's cocks and profiting off the braindamage to every fella actually trying to get useful work done. 1317415;1446754299;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-10-2015#1308878 << see thread. 1317416;1446754299;assbot;Logged on 27-10-2015 15:31:19; asciilifeform: this keeps in perfect fitting with the 'computing industry'-as-a-protection racket business model of the last 20+ yrs, where it 'solves' exclusively those problems which it, itself, creates. 1317417;1446754423;PeterL;I'm off to get the kids from school, mostly I lurk by reading the logs 1317418;1446754603;ben_vulpes;phf: where's a sane place from which to procure gpg-error? i've found some text files scattered about the web but nothing in the gpgme lang/cl dir 1317419;1446754642;ben_vulpes;aha libgpg-error i guess, derp. 1317420;1446754646;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: the thing is shaky beyond belief 1317421;1446754745;ascii_field;not entirely unrelatedly, 1317422;1446754763;ascii_field;i have a puzzle for ben_vulpes, who is awake, and mircea_popescu, who might soon awaken, and the rest: 1317423;1446754771;ascii_field;this being: 1317424;1446754773;ascii_field;what is 'v' worth ? 1317425;1446754806;*;ben_vulpes fails to find the logline wherein asciilifeform claims that common lisp packages "tend to work unlike in other languages" 1317426;1446754823;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: when they ~are~ common lisp packages 1317427;1446754825;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: don't mind me, i'm just trying to learn the violin. 1317428;1446754826;ascii_field;ffi turds stink 1317429;1446754830;ascii_field;invariably. 1317430;1446754852;ascii_field;the author of an ffi pkg has no control over what c turd is on your box 1317431;1446755403;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: any "v", your "v" or "v" in the abstract? 1317432;1446755410;ascii_field;part II of puzzle for ben_vulpes and mircea_popescu - what was the continuity bridge worth ? - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-08-2015#1225544 1317433;1446755410;assbot;Logged on 05-08-2015 13:54:55; mircea_popescu: the stator saving of the continuity feeling was too narrow for my liking. 1317434;1446755438;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: in the abstract. 1317435;1446755467;ascii_field;or rather, the concept+the working mechanism (ver 99) 1317436;1446755568;ben_vulpes;possibly unvaluable and invaluable 1317437;1446755578;ascii_field;these aren't things. 1317438;1446755584;ascii_field;'valueless' is a thing 1317439;1446755588;ascii_field;'valuable' is a thing. 1317440;1446755611;ben_vulpes;well, what is the value of bitcoin? 1317441;1446755621;ascii_field;to whom? 1317442;1446755630;*;ben_vulpes bows 1317443;1446755662;ascii_field;it is very valuable to, e.g., mircea_popescu 1317444;1446755728;ben_vulpes;are you then asking what the value of 'v' is to me, then? 1317445;1446755734;ben_vulpes;then then then 1317446;1446755765;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: the thing i'm trying to figure out is whether i'm smarter than a chicken. 1317447;1446755781;ascii_field;so far the evidence points to the negative 1317448;1446755792;funkenstein_;what's the value of a bach partita? 1317449;1446755819;ascii_field;funkenstein_: to his patrons, his ability to produce'em was valuable 1317450;1446755823;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: I don't follow. again, as though I were five? 1317451;1446755829;ascii_field;in the genuine sense of 'paid for.' 1317452;1446755837;punkman;loper machine needs patrons too 1317453;1446755842;ben_vulpes;!t s.nsa 1317454;1446755842;assbot;You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. 1317455;1446755847;ascii_field;punkman: and mars needs women 1317456;1446755858;ben_vulpes;!t m s.nsa 1317457;1446755858;assbot;The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. 1317458;1446755902;ben_vulpes;!t m s.qntr 1317459;1446755902;assbot;[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00015 / 0.00022294 / 0.00023879 (7865 shares, 1.75 BTC) 1317460;1446755937;funkenstein_;aha, proggys need patron model not box in store model 1317461;1446756032;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: do you understand why chicken in particular ? 1317462;1446756190;ben_vulpes;!up ascii_field 1317463;1446756206;ben_vulpes;not in the slightest. 1317464;1446756221;ben_vulpes;in the sense of grown to be eaten? 1317465;1446756247;ascii_field;in the sense that dumb bird lays eggs for free. 1317466;1446756313;ben_vulpes;what the ever loving fuck is this mkerrorcodes.awk 1317467;1446756326;ben_vulpes;well, "free". bird is fed. 1317468;1446756341;ascii_field;aha. bird is smarter than ascii_field. 1317469;1446756369;ben_vulpes;ascii_field is the proud owner of some equitytoiletpaper? 1317470;1446756392;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: specifically discussing other works. 1317471;1446756400;ben_vulpes;right. 1317472;1446756440;punkman;http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-01/enhanced/webdr03/31/16/enhanced-19864-1391203636-19.jpg 1317473;1446756441;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NSuEUq ) 1317474;1446756466;ascii_field;summary of what punkman thought of the other works ? 1317475;1446756534;jurov;http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 "if you are any kind of open-source leader or senior figure who is male, do not be alone with any female, ever, at a technical conference." 1317476;1446756537;assbot;From kafkatrap to honeytrap ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktx7KJ ) 1317477;1446756547;ascii_field;jurov: its in the logz 1317478;1446756550;ascii_field;whole thread 1317479;1446756607;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: chicken cannot learn from its mistakes. 1317480;1446756617;trinque;ascii_field: this is why I spoke of military hardware; it's only valuable if it's a) used and b) the user wins something of value 1317481;1446756629;ascii_field;required reading for context: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3217750625724755@naggum.net.html 1317482;1446756630;assbot;Re: realistic but short and simple LISP examples? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1OKBnPu ) 1317483;1446756716;punkman;ascii_field: summary of what punkman thought of the other works ? << not at all 1317484;1446756761;*;ascii_field not trying to troll people, but wants to get some sort of big picture view 1317485;1446756788;*;ascii_field has a very distinct feeling, prompted by last night's thread, that he is failing a kind of economic iq test 1317486;1446756876;phf;ben_vulpes: libgpg-error, and share/common-lisp is installed with brew version, but 1317487;1446756898;phf;gpgme bindings are broken, since they've not been updated since 2008 or so, i'm surprised they are in the source tree at all 1317488;1446756907;ascii_field;^^ 1317489;1446756923;*;ascii_field distinctly recalls warning people about this a while back 1317490;1446756944;ascii_field;gpg is ~extremely~ librarization-resistant, much like gcc. 1317491;1446756946;phf;luckily for you today only you can get a new and improved PATCH from me that will at least let you create context, since i only finished it like last night, i don't yet know if it will actually encrypt, but it might 1317492;1446756965;ben_vulpes;nifty, phf. 1317493;1446756967;trinque;ascii_field: gotta invent the path which leads to the thing desired, not just the thing itself 1317494;1446756993;trinque;there are plenty more knowledgable on this than myself, but this is why I ask periodically about smaller components of the thing, if such a thing exists at all 1317495;1446757003;ascii_field;the most elementary component 1317496;1446757004;ascii_field;is time. 1317497;1446757006;ascii_field;my time. 1317498;1446757021;ascii_field;there is not, it turns out, in many of these cases, any substitute for it. 1317499;1446757040;trinque;that is certainly so 1317500;1446757067;ben_vulpes;high performance individuals can hobble a team like this. 1317501;1446757074;ascii_field;also there is no means of getting more than 24 hours of it per day. 1317502;1446757088;ben_vulpes;"ah fuckit, get out of my way, i'll do it in a tenth the time and it'll be twice as good." 1317503;1446757115;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: we are speaking of cases where there isn't even an 'it' prior. 1317504;1446757157;ben_vulpes;separate the doing of it from the thinking up of the it to do. 1317505;1446757165;ascii_field;and at any rate, i'm not a 'high-performance' anything. 1317506;1446757186;trinque;could very well be that the mechanism by which a central govt steals from a large population via fiat monetary systems got us the CPUs we use today far earlier than they'd have been had without the theft 1317507;1446757238;ascii_field;trinque: even the hypothetical of 'without the theft' is rather like asking for 'without scurvy' 1317508;1446757250;trinque;it means without bitcoin 1317509;1446757253;ascii_field;at a certain stage of tech development, widespread scurvy is more or less certain 1317510;1446757262;trinque;rather, before bitcoin this theft was possible 1317511;1446757288;trinque;there was the thread about mathematics in the USSR which rings a bell here 1317512;1446757308;ascii_field;multiple threads. 1317513;1446757315;ascii_field;where i was trying to say more or less the same thing each time. 1317514;1446757316;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: what's more valuable: a honed and tidied 'v' implementation or several different implementations from wotmembers? 1317515;1446757329;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: i was speaking of neither 1317516;1446757339;ben_vulpes;no i know. but i'm asking you another question of value. 1317517;1446757340;trinque;sure, that market distortions happen doesn't mean they don't happen in a useful direction. it only means that other things will suffer greatly, that things are imbalanced. 1317518;1446757352;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: but of the system consisting of the invention plus the demonstration of its feasibility. 1317519;1446757364;ascii_field;i.e. the thing i made. 1317520;1446757380;trinque;ascii_field: it's simply this, that other than via magical thinking and zealotry, your thing will only happen when it costs less than someone is willing to pay to solve a problem he has 1317521;1446757403;ascii_field;trinque: aha 1317522;1446757419;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: 'value of ideas'? 1317523;1446757426;ascii_field;not of motherfucking 'ideas' 1317524;1446757429;trinque;ascii_field: so you should go cause problems for people meantime! 1317525;1446757439;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: of the working item 1317526;1446757445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7852 @ 0.00053447 = 4.1967 BTC [-] {2} 1317527;1446757449;ascii_field;which the other implementations are using as a crib sheet 1317528;1446757570;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: or take the example of my trb patches. 1317529;1446757578;ascii_field;(and the research that went into them) 1317530;1446757626;ascii_field;this work had nothing to do with s.nsa product. 1317531;1446757685;ben_vulpes;while noble, i do not see much turkey-buying value in pogoquest. 1317532;1446757714;ascii_field;how about trb as a whole ? 1317533;1446757740;ascii_field;or the continuity bridge, from old thread linked earlier ? 1317534;1446757776;ascii_field;or the removal of the 'orphan' blk and tx dos vectors ? etc 1317535;1446757814;ben_vulpes;what is the value of a put on facebook expiring 5 years from now? 1317536;1446757816;ascii_field;see, it is this 'noble' thing that i don't grasp 1317537;1446757840;ascii_field;because so far what it appears to mean is 'that's nice, chicken, keep laying eggs, but go and look for food ~somewhere~' 1317538;1446757844;trinque;do you benefit from a world where bitcoin functions or don't you? 1317539;1446757851;trinque;it's not rhetorical, it's *the* question 1317540;1446757855;ascii_field;i happen to think that i do. 1317541;1446757872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12808 @ 0.0005402 = 6.9189 BTC [+] {2} 1317542;1446757878;ascii_field;but i could be wrong. 1317543;1446757882;trinque;this I think is the value in doing "world-building" work 1317544;1446757886;ascii_field;and anyway nobody asked me whether it 'ought to exist' 1317545;1446757888;ascii_field;it exists. 1317546;1446757889;trinque;not that there's immediate pay; it's a long position 1317547;1446757915;trinque;whether it exists theoretically is distinct from whether this run of the idea takes now or after the next dark age 1317548;1446757916;ben_vulpes;so you've captured the value. bitcoin survives, and you benefit from its survival. so do other people, but when you advertise you also pay for people to learn about the solutionspace in general, including your competition. 1317549;1446757933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24397 @ 0.00054354 = 13.2607 BTC [+] {2} 1317550;1446757961;ben_vulpes;doesn't necessarily mean it's -ev to advertise, just that someone else is deriving value from your media buys as well. 1317551;1446758000;ben_vulpes;there's an old thread around the shop: "ain't nobody motivated by money in the bank" 1317552;1446758004;ben_vulpes;!up ascii_field 1317553;1446758019;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: that sentence is incomplete 1317554;1446758031;ascii_field;add '... until rent is due' 1317555;1446758034;ben_vulpes;go, complete. 1317556;1446758039;ascii_field;completed. 1317557;1446758059;ben_vulpes;but then the money's not in the bank anymore! 1317558;1446758076;*;ascii_field changes gas mask canister 1317559;1446758087;phf;hehe 1317560;1446758097;ben_vulpes;dafuq do you breathe, anyways. 1317561;1446758102;ascii_field;air. 1317562;1446758107;trinque;ben_vulpes: at his next cartridge change, slip him one with something that knocks him out, and make sure that he wakes up at your hq 1317563;1446758111;trinque;heh! 1317564;1446758122;phf;i think v is pretty cool 1317565;1446758144;ascii_field;phf: but, as i think has been well established, not money-cool. 1317566;1446758165;ascii_field;ditto trb. 1317567;1446758288;phf;i don't know what that means, money's not cool, it's barelly adequate at purchasing cool (a highly debatable point) 1317568;1446758309;mircea_popescu;ascii_field about the same that the us court system is worth. 1317569;1446758310;ascii_field;money-cool means something that economically stands on its own 1317570;1446758324;mircea_popescu;you can't sell it. if you keep it functioning well and in good shape, you can have an empire on the basis of it. 1317571;1446758343;ascii_field;aha! mircea_popescu gets it. 1317572;1446758358;phf;nobody's going to pay for v, but i thought that v is a dna level building block in a construction process of something that's beyond "money-cool", or bezzle cool as that's really what you're talking about ("rent is due") 1317573;1446758394;ascii_field;nobody's ever paying for trb either. not even on lsd. 1317574;1446758403;ascii_field;sunlight. 1317575;1446758439;mircea_popescu;you're approximately in the position of a 20something woman who wants to be part of the cast of friends but doesn't have the rent. 1317576;1446758456;*;ascii_field doesn't get the ref 1317577;1446758459;mircea_popescu;you can't be in this cast if you can't make rent. and no, wondering "What my youthfull good looks are worth" does not work with that show 1317578;1446758463;mircea_popescu;it's for a different show. 1317579;1446758480;mircea_popescu;;;google Friends 1317580;1446758481;gribble;Friends - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Friends (TV Series 1994–2004) - IMDb: ; The Original Friends Site: 1317581;1446758489;ascii_field;they charged the actors money ? 1317582;1446758498;mircea_popescu;not the show. the ACTUAL thing. 1317583;1446758538;*;ascii_field reads the pediwik in search of 'actual thing' 1317584;1446758562;mircea_popescu;"hip cool young people and the things they do" 1317585;1446758569;mircea_popescu;"the in crowd" 1317586;1446758570;mircea_popescu;etc. 1317587;1446758585;ascii_field;anyway i'm safely not these, already. 1317588;1446758634;mircea_popescu;no, you're breaking the comparison. 1317589;1446758641;ascii_field;how? 1317590;1446758649;mircea_popescu;ok, lemme go into painful detail. 1317591;1446758699;mircea_popescu;there was once a group of 20something chicks that lived in so and so apartments and did so and so deeds and things. their history became the controlling factor for an entire generation of english speakers, who went and got rachedo's and so on and so forth. part A of comparison. 1317592;1446758747;*;ascii_field escaped knowing any of this, somehow 1317593;1446758760;mircea_popescu;there is today a group of people that do so and so with encryption and bitcoins and etc. their history will be the controlling factor for an entire generation [of mostly chinese and russian speakers], who'll go about calling themselves the MP of cmpany X, because ceo is uncool now. this is part B of comparison. 1317594;1446758789;mircea_popescu;your notion that "oh, what is my participation in B's cool worth" is akin to the dumb polack chick in A going "what are my good looks worth, i can't make hollywood rent control" 1317595;1446758794;mircea_popescu;nonsense. 1317596;1446758808;ascii_field;mircea_popescu seems to think that i was looking for an answer other than the one i already derived. 1317597;1446758817;ascii_field;i know full well that it is worth nothing. 1317598;1446758819;mircea_popescu;you asked me. if you weren't looking for an answer, wh yask me ? 1317599;1446758825;mircea_popescu;nothing is not the word. 1317600;1446758842;ascii_field;wanted to see if anyone, incl. mircea_popescu, might find an error in my reasoning. 1317601;1446758883;ascii_field;e.g., do i contribute something in particular, or is it fungible like the 'good looks of a 20yo cunt' 1317602;1446758915;*;trinque marvels at both the output of this guy and his assessment of it 1317603;1446758921;mircea_popescu;neither of these approaches is actually meaningful, you're just murking up the material. 1317604;1446758939;mircea_popescu;http://www.shefinds.com/files/2011/01/Jennifer-Aniston-Rachel-Cut.jpg I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is. 1317703;1446761094;mircea_popescu;this about it ? 1317704;1446761122;ascii_field;afaik 1317705;1446761122;shinohai;Very succinct 1317706;1446761138;mircea_popescu;yeah, succint like 82 life sentences to run concurrently. 1317707;1446761153;ascii_field;1-6 are actually subdirs on my hdd. 1317708;1446761171;ascii_field;each. 1317709;1446761171;mircea_popescu;alright. 1317710;1446761198;mircea_popescu;and cardano is vaguely bolted into either 7 or 4. in fact the entire anthill got opened mostly through there. 1317711;1446761217;ascii_field;aha. 1317712;1446761221;mircea_popescu;basically far from ascii_field getting paid, i think the thing here is, s.nsa should be hiring. 1317713;1446761227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00054456 = 8.1684 BTC [+] 1317714;1446761253;*;ascii_field falls down l0lling 1317715;1446761272;*;ascii_field spins, like turtle 1317716;1446761303;phf;we lost him 1317717;1446761313;mircea_popescu;we pee on him to put him out ? 1317718;1446761324;ascii_field;eh, me console is designed for this 1317719;1446761327;*;ascii_field gets up 1317720;1446761353;ascii_field;kakobrekla no more finland ?? 1317721;1446761422;kakobrekla;finland is a fallback 1317722;1446761426;ascii_field;ah 1317723;1446761441;mircea_popescu;anjyway. while this... project is epicly delayed and way the fuck over budget, i am not particularly worried . 1317724;1446761474;ascii_field;kakobrekla: 'Finlandia, Finlandia, sinne taas matkalla oli Iivana.' 1317725;1446761488;ascii_field;(mega-classic, http://lyricstranslate.com/en/njet-molotoff-no-molotov.html ) 1317726;1446761489;assbot;Njet Molotoff lyrics + English translation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7tKXo ) 1317727;1446761577;kakobrekla;lol 1317728;1446761585;mircea_popescu;who is bobrikov 1317729;1446761622;kakobrekla;some su dude sounds like. 1317730;1446761626;ascii_field;viceroy in fi under late ru empire 1317731;1446761633;mircea_popescu;o 1317732;1446761642;ascii_field;plugged in 1904. 1317733;1446761746;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1317734;1446761757;ascii_field;http://heninen.net/njet/index.html << ru ver. and link to (i think) original audio. 1317735;1446761758;assbot;Нет, Молотов ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7tSGi ) 1317736;1446761803;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: supposing for a moment that the notion was a serious one, who should we be hiring ? 1317737;1446761814;ascii_field;(and with what) 1317738;1446761857;mircea_popescu;with stock. 1317739;1446761865;mircea_popescu;adn who, i dunno. 1317740;1446761892;ascii_field;and to what 1317741;1446761912;mircea_popescu;take your pick of the items in there. 1317742;1446761916;mircea_popescu;not like there's not work to do. 1317743;1446761985;ascii_field;so far, other than pieces of #3, and the whole of #7, it's all things that sit still except when i push'em. 1317744;1446762008;mircea_popescu;well we can't hire mod6 mostly because if we do the foundation ends. 1317745;1446762011;ascii_field;(7 is black magic and i won't even come near it) 1317746;1446762057;ascii_field;what does mod6 do for living anyway 1317747;1446762062;mircea_popescu;same as you. 1317748;1446762065;ascii_field;re? 1317749;1446762069;ascii_field;hm 1317750;1446762071;mircea_popescu;works in some mine. 1317751;1446762075;mircea_popescu;except he also raises some kids. 1317752;1446762077;ascii_field;ah in that sense 1317753;1446762081;ascii_field;aha this i recall 1317754;1446762088;mircea_popescu;and hunts! 1317755;1446762104;ascii_field;and prolly other interesting things. 1317756;1446762115;thestringpuller;mod6: has kids? 1317757;1446762116;thestringpuller;news to me 1317758;1446762126;mircea_popescu;iirc he also judges new stripper in a six county area. 1317759;1446762198;mircea_popescu;maybe phf, but the dude's not even bothered to collect the pile of mushrooms he earned doing i don't recall what for eulora 1317760;1446762203;mircea_popescu;ah, mac porting was it. 1317761;1446762425;jurov;qntra shares adistributed 1317762;1446762431;jurov;!t m s.qntr 1317763;1446762431;assbot;[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00015 / 0.00022294 / 0.00023879 (7865 shares, 1.75 BTC) 1317764;1446762437;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bdffa8b7d57686c09bd57ecf43c8b7b/tumblr_n98tvuC3m41r1ux1wo1_1280.jpg 1317765;1446762439;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ng3xjg ) 1317766;1446762516;BingoBoingo;Foodstamp culture: "I saw an episode of Bridezillas that she wanted to use EBT for her wedding cake. Except it was her friends card and it was not a store she was getting it from it was a lady baking out of her house and the baker lady was going to buy the stuff for the cake and like $700 in groceries as her 'payment'. They all got fines, the baker got shut down and the friend lost her ability to receive stamps and I think lost cu 1317767;1446762517;BingoBoingo;stody of her kids to their dad because she had the kids on her case but because she was filmed letting her friend use the card they said she was neglecting to 'use state resources alloted for her kids' on her kids, so they opened a case against her and the judge let the kids say who they wanted to be with and it was dad. " 1317768;1446762643;mircea_popescu;rape and microaggression. 1317769;1446762649;BingoBoingo;srs 1317770;1446762717;BingoBoingo;So pete still working on a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear? 1317771;1446762756;mircea_popescu;i have nfi. 1317772;1446762832;mircea_popescu;"with liquid cooling fluid bubbling over its brain" << if the coolant bubbles you got serious problems. it's not supposed to do that. 1317773;1446762893;ascii_field;mno 1317774;1446762898;ascii_field;fluorinert boils 1317775;1446762902;ascii_field;this was part of the design 1317776;1446762918;ascii_field;(heat of phase change) 1317777;1446762928;mircea_popescu;nuts 1317778;1446762935;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00054309 = 18.1392 BTC [-] 1317779;1446762940;ascii_field;somewhere north of 50c 1317780;1446762959;ascii_field;hence the bubbles 1317781;1446763044;mircea_popescu;check it out, "two phase collant", it's a thing 1317782;1446763049;ascii_field;aha 1317783;1446763064;ascii_field;big bux 1317784;1446763074;ascii_field;iirc recently somebody opened a btc mine under f. 1317785;1446763101;ascii_field;(or claimed to, at any rate) 1317786;1446763161;ascii_field;http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/350001/view << photo of c2 1317787;1446763163;assbot;Cooling system of Cray 2 super-computer - Stock Image T450/0126 - Science Photo Library ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uKe5 ) 1317788;1446763302;ascii_field;http://www.0x07bell.net/WWWMASTER/CrayWWWStuff/Criscan/Cray2cascade.jpg << 'waterfall' in upper centre of photo 1317789;1446763302;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uPOJ ) 1317790;1446763304;ascii_field;operating. 1317791;1446763347;ascii_field;from http://www.0x07bell.net/WWWMASTER/CrayWWWStuff/Cfaqp2.html which is pretty spiffy historical pile 1317792;1446763348;assbot;Cray Faq Part 2: Tales from the crypto and other bar stories ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uOuh ) 1317793;1446763359;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317405 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317404 control. has "industry" "taken over" "farming" ? no, it has not, people still farm. except, people who farm (argentina) get to suck the cock of people who industry (romania). but otherwise, feudalism continues unimpeded both as a thing in itself in east asia and as a thing to look forward to, maybe one day 1317794;1446763359;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:06:20; ascii_field: PeterL: the notion of 'takes over' is broken 1317795;1446763359;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:05:36; trinque: takes over what? who cares if some poor guy still has an iPhone? 1317796;1446763359;mircea_popescu;they develop it, in africa and venezuela etc. see also http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-and-the-poor/#comment-114814 1317797;1446763360;assbot;Bitcoin and the poor on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uOKE ) 1317798;1446763437;ascii_field;linked site claims that the last known cray2 was not thrown out until '99. 1317799;1446763454;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317411 << this, ftr, is deeply wrong. pluralism does not suffer because "mass markets". it would benefit from them, if the [people who were supposed to be the] elite weren't fucktards. 1317800;1446763454;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:16; ascii_field: 'when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most -- there is no longer a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual "winner", and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory.' 1317801;1446763477;mircea_popescu;this is like saying "abundance makes lazy apes want to watch tv". guess what ? it doesn't have to! nobody forces you to misuse your freedom! 1317802;1446763488;ascii_field;recall the meth thread ? 1317803;1446763492;mircea_popescu;i do. 1317804;1446763496;ascii_field;so then. 1317805;1446763500;mircea_popescu;so then what ? 1317806;1446763507;ascii_field;they could all be erdos 1317807;1446763509;mircea_popescu;all that discussion was about the mass. 1317808;1446763509;ascii_field;if they wanted 1317809;1446763513;mircea_popescu;no, they couldn't. 1317810;1446763517;mircea_popescu;not ALL. there is no all. 1317811;1446763546;ascii_field;sure. then where did we get the retarded elite? 1317812;1446763548;mircea_popescu;until and unless you come to terms with the simple fact that you're special, you'll be stuck trying to explain friends to me. 1317813;1446763550;ascii_field;martians came and put them in? 1317814;1446763567;mircea_popescu;i blame the parents. 1317815;1446763593;mircea_popescu;(not for maleducation. for poor sexual hygiene. fucking all the roadkill and such.) 1317816;1446763604;mircea_popescu;lemme find this ad, maybe i manage. 1317817;1446763611;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1317818;1446763650;ascii_field;don't have the thread handy, but at one point i explained how computing is tricky because its very existence as its current thing - that is, vlsi - is predicated on mass uptake 1317819;1446763659;ascii_field;and how this is the root of the sux 1317820;1446763692;mircea_popescu;was. 1317821;1446763727;ascii_field;still is, until mircea_popescu or i figure out how to make 100 cpus. 1317822;1446763750;mircea_popescu;well i can't find it. anyway, fucktarded outdoor thing in ba, "siempre se vuelve al primer amor" trying to sell italian classes. depicts an ugly chick in flats holding a huge red heart. 1317823;1446763750;ascii_field;or even 1000. 1317824;1446763759;mircea_popescu;that stupid bitch didn't look like something dogs would fuck 1317825;1446763764;mircea_popescu;yet these idiots think she's someone's first love. 1317826;1446763777;mircea_popescu;stop fucking all the ugly inept women. that's how you get stunted kids. 1317827;1446763784;ascii_field;hey a sack of potatoes with a hole augered in is prolly somebody's 1st luv 1317828;1446763799;mircea_popescu;not a matter of "someone". 1317829;1446763826;mircea_popescu;a matter that the top male of 1015 (ie, STRONG) fucked hotties and had good children. whereas the top male of 2015 (ie, SMART) fucks horsefaces and is happy for it. 1317830;1446763841;mircea_popescu;that's the martians that put the chlorotic non-elites on earth. 1317831;1446763853;mircea_popescu;go for the hot ones like you own their mothers. 1317832;1446763862;ascii_field;not enough war. 1317833;1446763886;ascii_field;(how else do you resolve the problem of there being 1000 takers to each) 1317834;1446763900;mircea_popescu;ascii_field we can make 100 cpus TODAY, and on tech that didn't even exist in 1960. 1317835;1446763908;mircea_popescu;this is exactly how bitcoin mining got started. 1317836;1446763921;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: in all srsnes i'd like to know how. 1317837;1446763924;mircea_popescu;so no, the problem is not an absent "mass market". the problem is that there's work to be done for future uncertain benefit. 1317838;1446763957;ascii_field;teach me how to make 100 cpus. 1317839;1446763983;mircea_popescu;umd will let you tack on 100 cpus to some prototype run they got, won't it ? 1317840;1446763998;ascii_field;those ain't cpus 1317841;1446764001;mircea_popescu;shut up. 1317842;1446764007;ascii_field;they won't package or test or guarantee so much as 1 working unit. 1317843;1446764014;ascii_field;and you can't package in a kitchen. 1317844;1446764016;ascii_field;i tried. 1317845;1446764022;mircea_popescu;and no, i wont bother the bitfury guy, or anyone actually involved in doing things with this inept nonsense. for the same reason i shouldn't have queried ben_vulpes yest. 1317846;1446764027;ascii_field;(tried how? you can buy bare dies) 1317847;1446764032;mircea_popescu;entertaining anal child resistences is a bad plan. 1317848;1446764066;mircea_popescu;you know for a fact, incontrovertible and above your ability to contest, that you can do 100 cpus, and it doesn'rt even cost that much. 1317849;1446764067;mircea_popescu;moving on. 1317850;1446764085;ascii_field;also we don't need z80 for anything. 1317851;1446764094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.0005422 = 7.0757 BTC [-] {2} 1317852;1446764124;ascii_field;(show me where we can do a 486 or a dram of the time, for something like what the shared die folks charge.) 1317853;1446764203;mircea_popescu;so i guess this can wait a few years then. 1317854;1446764233;ascii_field;the base cost of doing any of it is only moving up. 1317855;1446764240;ascii_field;esp. as the old 'secondhand' fabs fold. 1317856;1446764251;ascii_field;recall the thread re: 'the middle dies' ? 1317857;1446764264;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-06-2015#1163457 << it 1317858;1446764264;assbot;Logged on 13-06-2015 17:27:26; mircea_popescu: if you need anything that has to be made on something in the middle, make it now. 1317859;1446764285;ascii_field;^ was actually about this fab 1317860;1446764392;mircea_popescu;looky, if we miss the window to civilisation we'll have missed the window to civilisation, that's all. 1317861;1446764430;ascii_field;would still rather not, no? 1317862;1446764449;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317412 << and mcdonalds' existence has kept alive a great many people that belonged dead. and all this has some ~statistical~ influences. it is not relevant on a case by case basis and it can't be an excuse for you. 1317863;1446764449;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:35; ascii_field: microshit's very existence has deformed thought processes of a great many people. 1317864;1446764476;ascii_field;ftr it is my considered belief that if tmsr is sunk, it will be because it was unable to fab si. 1317865;1446764484;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't, personally, give a rats ass either way. if yes, sure. if not, whatever, i have no problems riding a horse. 1317866;1446764503;ascii_field;horse while enemy has gamma ray blaster. 1317867;1446764509;ascii_field;in orbit. 1317868;1446764519;mircea_popescu;eh nonsense. 1317869;1446764537;mircea_popescu;i'm fucking "the enemy" ie some conclave of old fart's both daughters and occaisonally wife. always have. 1317870;1446764543;mircea_popescu;i pointedly couldn't care less. 1317871;1446764571;ascii_field;you might be fucking the wives of his dead skin cells 1317872;1446764599;ascii_field;but i have nfi. 1317873;1446764607;mircea_popescu;i keep getting sucked into discussing science fiction movie scripts with this guy. 1317874;1446764612;mircea_popescu;i don't even like science fiction. 1317875;1446764666;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317425 << the one that went "this works [because nobody's ever used it, like you know, burning man before it got populat]" ? 1317876;1446764666;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:20:06; *: ben_vulpes fails to find the logline wherein asciilifeform claims that common lisp packages "tend to work unlike in other languages" 1317877;1446764700;ascii_field;the ones that don't reference items in the sea of c shit - work. 1317878;1446764706;mircea_popescu;for now. 1317879;1446764709;ascii_field;for ever. 1317880;1446764714;ascii_field;that's what ansi cl means. 1317881;1446764731;mircea_popescu;and once they become popular, they will BE the sea of lisp shit. 1317882;1446764737;mircea_popescu;c worked in the 70s just fine, also. 1317883;1446764748;ascii_field;common lisp did not exist in the 70s 1317884;1446764757;mircea_popescu;the problem here is keeping the herd out of computing, nothing else. 1317885;1446764758;ascii_field;it was actually an answer to the tower of babel which prevailed then. 1317886;1446764772;mircea_popescu;and it continues to appear to work for as long as it fails to appear interesting. 1317887;1446764774;ascii_field;a kind of 'trb cleanup' of its time 1317888;1446764791;mircea_popescu;because it has no mechanisms of institutionalized opression of the median. 1317889;1446764792;ascii_field;but yes, the machines were expensive and the room temp iq folks were kept out. 1317890;1446764796;mircea_popescu;right 1317891;1446764796;ascii_field;on other side of locked doors. 1317892;1446764809;mircea_popescu;that accidental, happenstantial mechanism is crap. 1317893;1446764817;mircea_popescu;originally worked for unix, also. 1317894;1446764821;*;ascii_field happens to agree 1317895;1446764839;mircea_popescu;so now you know why you must go stand on own, with one go. 1317896;1446764887;ascii_field;not exactly 1317897;1446764895;mircea_popescu;of course not, god forbid. 1317898;1446764964;ascii_field;what i meant was, what does it mean, 'with one go' 1317899;1446764992;mircea_popescu;that in the same go, as you understand one, you understand the other. they being the exact same thing. 1317900;1446765118;ascii_field;i don't see the connection 1317901;1446765124;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes whty is the painter with ebola chick wearing high heeled platforms ? 1317902;1446765184;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317481 << the thing that has haunted alf for years now. 1317903;1446765184;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:50:29; ascii_field: required reading for context: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3217750625724755@naggum.net.html 1317904;1446765194;ascii_field;aha. 1317905;1446765197;mircea_popescu;same thing happens to me, i get various bits i end up keeping for a long time. 1317906;1446765217;ascii_field;see also my observation about being dumber than a chicken. 1317907;1446765317;mircea_popescu;1023 more of you , we could almost have a cpu. 1317908;1446765322;ascii_field;aha. 1317909;1446765491;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1317910;1446765563;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: i don't think it is 'emo' to question my priorities when, after giving away my work to apparent applause for a year, i mention starving and audience suggests 'web dev' 1317911;1446765584;ascii_field;audience collectively worth what, $1B ? 1317912;1446765640;ascii_field;to me 'web dev' means 'work 17y.o. does' and is exactly equivalent to 'you are worth your weight in pork' 1317913;1446765646;mircea_popescu;this is entirely besides the point. how you organise your own affairs is your own call. b-a is an equity play : you do things ; when and if they bring money in, you can have money ; when and if they bring chicks in, you can have chicks. that's how equity plays work : you get a claim to whatever future brings. 1317914;1446765657;ascii_field;no argument 1317915;1446765684;mircea_popescu;i understand that salaried work is both more common and more convenient, but i have personally no patience for salary types, and more importantly, there's no room in b-a for such, because it's not a fucking ewmpire, it's a republic, 1317916;1446765691;mircea_popescu;\and in the early revolutionary phases at that. 1317917;1446765699;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: wasn't speaking of 'salary types' 1317918;1446765713;ascii_field;what did you pay that plumber in anyway 1317919;1446765722;ascii_field;chocolate ? 1317920;1446765739;mircea_popescu;which plumber ? 1317921;1446765741;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22216 @ 0.00054456 = 12.0979 BTC [+] 1317922;1446765747;ascii_field;the fella with the angle grinder 1317923;1446765768;mircea_popescu;im either doing too many things at once or whatever. who ? link ? what ? 1317924;1446765771;ascii_field;the hand-held one 1317925;1446765787;mircea_popescu;oh, i don't recall, 200 pesos for the labour or something it was 1317926;1446765810;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2015#1298163 1317927;1446765810;assbot;Logged on 13-10-2015 21:01:03; mircea_popescu: ok this is the most insane thing i ever saw. so plumber, looks like he escaped comicon or something, dorkiest dude ever. but THEN he proceeds to CUT THROUGH METAL PLATE FREEHAND 1317928;1446765812;ascii_field;that one 1317929;1446765815;ascii_field;just random example 1317930;1446765821;mircea_popescu;right. ~200 pesos. 1317931;1446765830;ascii_field;aha. fella did something that needed doing 1317932;1446765836;ascii_field;does that make him 'salary type' ? 1317933;1446765840;mircea_popescu;yes. 1317934;1446765849;mircea_popescu;inasmuch as he doesn't get to put his name on the thing. 1317935;1446765856;ascii_field;but i thought mircea_popescu didn't care for those 1317936;1446765861;mircea_popescu;i don;t. 1317937;1446765866;ascii_field;ought to have used a republic plumber 1317938;1446765870;mircea_popescu;which is why if he came to have a chat with me i'd have the girls send him off. 1317939;1446765872;ascii_field;who works for glory? 1317940;1446765880;mircea_popescu;but i'm not fucking insane. 1317941;1446765894;mircea_popescu;nor do i hire plumbers to do the code nor do i hire usian kids to do my plumbing. 1317942;1446765895;ascii_field;what am i missing here 1317943;1446765935;mircea_popescu;you are stubbornly missing here that what you'd like the world to be does not matter one whit, and whatever way you dress that masturbation up doesn't change its masturbatory content. 1317944;1446765945;mircea_popescu;it's either or, pick one or the other and enough with it already. 1317945;1446765957;mircea_popescu;you don't want to do webwork, don't. do not expect any sort of actual pay. 1317946;1446765962;ascii_field;this might be asking the mega-s33krit, but what kind of people ~does~ mircea_popescu use to, e.g., maintain mircea_popescucoin ? 1317947;1446765973;mircea_popescu;you don't want to be in start-ups, don't. do not expect you get to open your mouth. 1317948;1446765980;mircea_popescu;either way, pick one live with it. 1317949;1446766008;ascii_field;mircea_popescu is, i think, accustomed to smashing idiots' skulls and instinctively reaches for the designated hammer. but i'm not an idiot and don't expect things. 1317950;1446766010;mircea_popescu;most people live with a mix of the two, which is fine, pick a mix you like and stick to it. 1317951;1446766016;mircea_popescu;well so then! 1317952;1446766061;*;ascii_field picked. 1317953;1446766073;mircea_popescu;so then what is teh problem! 1317954;1446766078;ascii_field;none afaik. 1317955;1446766088;ascii_field;but wanted to take a proper shit into the record 1317956;1446766093;ascii_field;in case anyone is later confused. 1317957;1446766098;*;mircea_popescu thumbsup 1317958;1446766137;ascii_field;mainly i gotta live out the oath that i swore. 1317959;1446766839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00054456 = 16.5546 BTC [+] 1317960;1446766894;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317506 << this is almost a certainty. 1317961;1446766894;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 20:59:46; trinque: could very well be that the mechanism by which a central govt steals from a large population via fiat monetary systems got us the CPUs we use today far earlier than they'd have been had without the theft 1317962;1446766904;mircea_popescu;the russians got steel plants faster with stalin then they'd have without. 1317963;1446767032;kakobrekla;doenst this apply to pretty much everything govt made 1317964;1446767047;kakobrekla;the bad and the ugly 1317965;1446767183;shinohai;!up Cristina 1317966;1446767200;shinohai;vez eso? lo puedo hacer porque *ya he verifcado* 1317967;1446767210;Cristina;!up 1317968;1446767216;Cristina;ya me deja jeje 1317969;1446767241;shinohai;The things I go through ... 1317970;1446767506;shinohai;If Cristina has done anything, she has proved to me that winblowze is never going to be the correct tool for anything related to gpg 1317971;1446767869;BingoBoingo;!up Cristina 1317972;1446767905;mircea_popescu;this wasn't terribly controversial shinohai. howdja meet her anyway. 1317973;1446767943;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla yeah. baltimore'd have never had such good crime without govt. 1317974;1446768003;Cristina;+BingoBoingo nice 1317975;1446768025;shinohai;mircea_popescu: met her trollin about ... found out about camwork, decided to ask her to look into your offer. 1317976;1446768036;shinohai;jugs for all ! 1317977;1446768047;mircea_popescu;lol 1317978;1446768183;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1317979;1446768190;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 356.5332, vol: 60091.75104089 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 363.39999, vol: 466.47868 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 358.371, vol: 16.12998791 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 381.246816, vol: 86760.53440000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 355.13, vol: 19397.1056119 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 350.0, vol: 246.96771636 | Volume-weighted last average: 369.220833122 1317980;1446768198;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1317981;1446768205;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 388.0, vol: 60074.75104089 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 382.23, vol: 33094.06971 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 387.1, vol: 157816.51835699 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 390.0, vol: 16.12998791 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.261816, vol: 86711.68480000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 193.92428549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 380.94, vol: 246.96771636 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1317982;1446768252;mircea_popescu;i was like... wtf it moved 10% within two queries ? 1317983;1446768256;mircea_popescu;that euro thing always throws me. 1317984;1446768447;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317791 < Tales from the crypto 1317985;1446768447;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 22:42:27; ascii_field: from http://www.0x07bell.net/WWWMASTER/CrayWWWStuff/Cfaqp2.html which is pretty spiffy historical pile 1317986;1446768447;kakobrekla;** This section not available for public distribution. ** 1317987;1446768450;kakobrekla;how great. 1317988;1446768536;shinohai;!s android 2fa vulnerabilities 1317989;1446768537;assbot;0 results for 'android 2fa vulnerabilities' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=android+2fa+vulnerabilities 1317990;1446768542;shinohai;o rly 1317991;1446768767;mod6;<+ascii_field> what does mod6 do for living anyway << professional shit shoveler 1317992;1446768782;mod6;<+thestringpuller> news to me << they're the gf's 1317993;1446768839;mod6;had to find a new mine, place in tower of fascism was bought, outsourced all jobs to bangladesh or some place. 1317994;1446768854;mod6;first day was last friday. so been a bit swamped since then. 1317995;1446768858;shinohai;Thank you, come again! 1317996;1446768867;mod6;exactly. lol 1317997;1446768879;shinohai;^_______________^ 1317998;1446768922;BingoBoingo;State of Aztlan: https://www.thefix.com/content/crystal-meth-new-crack-cocaine "They stopped the bomb powder. We got our own weed, it's damn near legal out here. The only thing the Mexicans got to push is this and they pushing it hard." 1317999;1446768925;assbot;Is Crystal Meth the New Crack Cocaine? | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1PqN404 ) 1318000;1446768927;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> iirc he also judges new stripper in a six county area. << my speciality 1318001;1446769218;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00054152 = 7.1751 BTC [-] 1318002;1446769275;mod6;i would like to help out with s.nsa. but yeah, right now foundation stuff is about all i can handle outside of mines. once I don't need the mines any longer, then I'll have some extra time perhaps. 1318003;1446769279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.0005386 = 2.0391 BTC [-] 1318004;1446769302;shinohai;I got plenty of time but I'm not good at anything. 1318005;1446769538;mod6;that's not true. you've been doing some awesome testing for me at the drop of a hat. a lot of this stuff just takes time to dig into it, etc. 1318006;1446769553;mod6;and rome wasn't built in a day. or 5 years or whatever. takes time. 1318007;1446769588;mod6;but believe me, there's nothing more than I want to do than work on this stuff all day. just not quite there yet. 1318008;1446769917;hanbot;ascii_field should you ever actually find yourself on the brink of starvation put whoever is doing your cooking in touch with me. i am well acquainted with forced frugality. it happens, and while your merits might not prevent it from grabbing at your feet, they can keep you from succumbing. 1318009;1446769960;mircea_popescu;<mod6> had to find a new mine, place in tower of fascism was bought, outsourced all jobs to bangladesh or some place. <<< seems alf's going through exactly the same. 1318010;1446769977;mircea_popescu;i must confess buffett sold me on his "hay mas futuro por norteamerica" or whatever it was. 1318011;1446770435;BingoBoingo;Who knew sobriety was such big bsns, fuck AngloLandia is broken https://www.thefix.com/content/lifestyles-rich-and-sober-6588 1318012;1446770438;assbot;Lifestyles of the Rich and Sober | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1PqPdZz ) 1318013;1446770464;BingoBoingo;"If the idea of entering a facility, even a luxury one, is too much to bear, you can always follow the lead of true ballers who detox in style at luxury suites at Claridges in London or Trump Tower in NYC to the tune of about $3,000 per night. For the roughly week-long experience, theyll then hire an on-call doctor to administer a detox program and medication (an estimated $15,000 per week), a 24-hour nurse to facilitate it 1318014;1446770465;BingoBoingo;(roughly $3,500 per week), and a round-the-clock sober companion to oversee the entire operation (approximately $10,000 per week). The final total for a week of the most luxurious stint of detox known to man? Around $50,000. Room service not included." 1318015;1446770507;*;BingoBoingo needs to get a pet bear 1318016;1446770591;mod6;mircea_popescu: yeah, they annouced the news of the acquisition on the 2nd of october, had a new deal closed by the 17th. was glad to find something new anyway, was really tired of working at the old place. 1318017;1446770616;mircea_popescu;good for you then 1318018;1446770669;mod6;certainly was a good thing to get back to work so quick. 1318019;1446770707;mod6;got more vacation days and a raise. 1318020;1446770762;mircea_popescu;what do you do there, sysadmin like ? 1318021;1446770784;mod6;software development - mostly java stuff. 1318022;1446770791;*;mod6 ducks 1318023;1446770804;mircea_popescu;lol 1318024;1446770811;mircea_popescu;well at least it';s not webdev right ? 1318025;1446770818;mod6;exactly. 1318026;1446770829;mod6;no, this role I'm workin on a data access layer. 1318027;1446770840;mod6;buncha hibrernate bullshit 1318028;1446770859;mod6;but I don't work in these mines for the thrill of victory, i do it for the cash. 1318029;1446770873;mircea_popescu;aha. 1318030;1446770913;mod6;I pretty much keep my head down, work hard. I don't get emotionally invested in the mines. 1318031;1446770968;mod6;when I was younger I used to be a lot more idealistic about my job... now, couldn't care less as long as the money is wired on a regular basis. haha. 1318032;1446770989;mod6;bitcoin is the thing i care about. 1318033;1446771025;mod6;i put up with all that bullshit all day every day so I can keep the lights on and do my real job: the foundation :] 1318034;1446771032;trinque;I'm not much concerned with dignity at the end of the world. 1318035;1446771100;mircea_popescu;just as long as the world ends, eh. 1318036;1446771108;trinque;yes sir 1318037;1446771109;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12814 @ 0.0005386 = 6.9016 BTC [-] 1318038;1446771117;mod6;well, to some extent for me I have to be able to be honest and have integrity in my job or I wouldn't respect myself in the morning. 1318039;1446771131;trinque;mod6: I mean fretting about doing java, webdev, or pole dancing 1318040;1446771142;mod6;*nod* 1318041;1446771150;mircea_popescu;pole dancing is actually great for you. 1318042;1446771155;mircea_popescu;almost as good as walking. 1318043;1446771157;mod6;I'm just sayin, some guys are cool with being fucking scammers. Not me. 1318044;1446771170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28686 @ 0.00053738 = 15.4153 BTC [-] {2} 1318045;1446771190;mod6;Yup, nothin wrong with shakin' it for cash. That's honest. 1318046;1446771209;mod6;Ripping people off for vaporware or whatever other bullshit isn't. 1318047;1446771282;mod6;I guess, another factor for me is doing manual labor. I used to cut down trees from when I was about 10 to 18. And very quickly in a job like that you learn the value of the earned dollar. 1318048;1446771303;mod6;So, I'd hate to do webdevelopment or whatever, but it sure beats humping logs all day. 1318049;1446771327;mircea_popescu;a lumberjack ?! 1318050;1446771327;trinque;deedbot-'s blockchain has caught up thanks to mircea_popescu's node 1318051;1446771338;mod6;And sure, I liked cutting down trees, good exercise, decent guys to work with, but fuck, that shit wears on you. 1318052;1446771381;mod6;Yep. My good buddy's dad has a tree care company. My old man set me up with a job working with them when I was like 10, big enough to haul sticks and roll logs. 1318053;1446771412;mircea_popescu;"i cut down trees, i wear high heels" now resounding in mp residence 1318054;1446771427;mod6;haha 1318055;1446771458;mod6;Only thing I really regret about it is not wearing ear protection back then. 1318056;1446771471;mircea_popescu;srsly. 1318057;1446771624;mod6;When I wasn't cutting down trees, I would blow up an air matress and float down this creek that ran through a private golf course. Where I would fish the golf balls out of the creek, shine 'em up and sell 'em back to the guys who just hit 'em in there for like $0.25 per ball. 1318058;1446771639;mod6;always was a way to make money. 1318059;1446771668;mircea_popescu;not bad. 1318060;1446771672;mod6;probably gave that up when I was about 13 though. 1318061;1446771718;mircea_popescu;at some point at that age i used to go trouting in this stream. the trout likes to sit under the rock sort-of mid evening, you can catch it with your hands just loop either end in. 1318062;1446771724;mod6;yeah! never had to ask my folks for a nickle after I was 10. 1318063;1446771741;mod6;ah! cool. 1318064;1446771772;mircea_popescu;very much like picking up women, actually. 1318065;1446771799;mod6;wrangle 'em up :] 1318066;1446771823;mircea_popescu;always suspected the trout doesn't actually mind being caught. 1318067;1446771862;mircea_popescu;only starts squirming once out of the water. 1318068;1446771920;mod6;!up ascii_field 1318069;1446771926;BingoBoingo;Around here similar hand fishing arts exist, but usually they focus on the catfish Basically get it to swallow your hand and try to grab the gill plates as you pull your hand up 1318070;1446771942;mod6;they're called "noodlers" right BingoBoingo? 1318071;1446771948;BingoBoingo;yes 1318072;1446771967;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318008 << 90+% rent 1318073;1446771967;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 00:31:57; hanbot: ascii_field should you ever actually find yourself on the brink of starvation put whoever is doing your cooking in touch with me. i am well acquainted with forced frugality. it happens, and while your merits might not prevent it from grabbing at your feet, they can keep you from succumbing. 1318074;1446772000;mircea_popescu;in other news, johnny cash is fucking great. 1318075;1446772023;mod6;very much so. only framed picture I've got is of Johnny Cash. 1318076;1446772046;mircea_popescu;aged splendidly too. im not even sure if his best work isn't his last album 1318077;1446772050;mircea_popescu;\how many bands can say this ? 1318078;1446772073;mircea_popescu;sure, say aerosmith has the same longevity. but gimme a break with the bubblepop crap they been doing for mtv this side of the mllenium. 1318079;1446772082;mod6;yah, usually it's a big early career, and then a slow decline. he just kept making great, if not even better, music. 1318080;1446772112;deedbot-;[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Good Afternoon ISIS - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/05/good-afternoon-isis/ 1318081;1446772116;mod6;yeah. steven tyler did not age well. i saw a picture of him and he looks like a chinese woman 1318082;1446772126;mircea_popescu;i think he always was a chinese woman. 1318083;1446772136;mircea_popescu;he certainly did enough dope for one. 1318084;1446772141;mod6;speaking of which, Axl Rose looks really bad too. haha 1318085;1446772155;mod6;"Welcome to the bakery, we've got cakes and pies..." 1318086;1446772208;mircea_popescu;http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2014/12/04/10/Axl-Rose-Getty.jpg kinda trucker like. 1318087;1446772209;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PqS0SI ) 1318088;1446772284;mike_c;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317621 1318089;1446772284;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 21:35:29; ascii_field: from this point on i will have to ignore everything else, until rollout. 1318090;1446772289;mike_c;Amen!! 1318091;1446772289;mod6;mircea_popescu: haha 1318092;1446772307;mike_c;let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already 1318093;1446772328;mod6;sounds good to me. 1318094;1446772329;mircea_popescu;not a bad plan. 1318095;1446772427;jurov;ascii_field: electrum-server depends on bitcoin having "txindex" which 0.5.4 not sure if has, 0.7 had and the el. patch was not heavy 1318096;1446772452;jurov;no patch needed since 0.8 1318097;1446772461;mod6;!up ascii_field 1318098;1446772477;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318009 << wrong guess 1318099;1446772477;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 00:32:40; mircea_popescu: <mod6> had to find a new mine, place in tower of fascism was bought, outsourced all jobs to bangladesh or some place. <<< seems alf's going through exactly the same. 1318100;1446772495;ascii_field;was 'startup' 1318101;1446772504;ascii_field;with hardware. 1318102;1446772515;mircea_popescu;ah ok. 1318103;1446772548;mircea_popescu;you really shouldn't stack the same play. if the wife's a lascivious blonde don't get ANOTHER one for a mistress. get a spirtous brunette sarah silverman sorta chick. 1318104;1446772549;mircea_popescu;etc. 1318105;1446772573;ascii_field;wot went, so no choice 1318106;1446772627;ascii_field;only other option was- usg 1318107;1446772637;ascii_field;bbl 1318108;1446772813;mircea_popescu;"But if Echo was no longer a projection, she was still a reflection. Echo, like all women, offered her man a peek inside his soul, all he had to do look: What kind of a man am I, that attracts this kind of woman? What kind of a man am I that attracts the kind of woman who only likes me for how I look? Despite how I treat her? What kind of a man am I that only attracts the kind of women who like me for X? Is it b 1318109;1446772813;mircea_popescu;ecause there is nothing else of value inside me except X? But he was never taught to ask questions like this. In fact, he was taught never to ask questions like that. What kind of a man attracts a woman who can only echo him? There must be a name for that kind of person, and he already had it." 1318110;1446772824;mircea_popescu;lol, tlp trying to be feminist by making men as dumb as women. 1318111;1446772837;mircea_popescu;orly, neurosis is the answer ? i had no idea anyone even asked the question! 1318112;1446772952;mircea_popescu;How do you make a child know himself? You surround him with mirrors. "This is what everyone else sees when you do what you do. This is who everyone thinks you are." <<< mno, that's how you make a child become a girl. 1318113;1446773703;mircea_popescu;"Lesson one at the academia should be the importance of separating vocation from avocation, as character actor Fred Thompson and electrical contractor Benjamin Franklin both understood." 1318114;1446774176;mircea_popescu;"When we see a welfare mom we assume she can't find work, but when we see a hipster we become infuriated because we assume he doesn't want to work but could easily do so-- on account of the fact that he can speak well-- that he went to college. But now suddenly we're all shocked: to the economy, the English grad is just as superfluous as the disenfranchised welfare mom in the hood-- the college education is just as ir 1318115;1446774176;mircea_popescu;relevant as the skin color. Not irrelevant for now, not irrelevant "until the economy improves"-- irrelevant forever. The economy doesn't care about intelligence, at all, it doesn't care what you know, merely what you can produce for it. The only thing the English grad is "qualified" for in this economy is the very things s/he is already doing: coffeehouse agitator, Trader Joe's associate, Apple customer ............ 1318116;1446774176;mircea_popescu;...................................... and spouse of a capitalist. 1318117;1446774178;mircea_popescu;Of course I'm not happy about this, I like smart people, but that's the new reality. There was a time where women went to college to get an MRS degree, and I am telling you that that time is today, there is nothing else of value in there. Sure, some college women go on to become doctors and CEOs, and some go on to become child pornographers and Salon writers, none of those things have anything to do with what happene 1318118;1446774185;mircea_popescu;d in college. If you are going to college to get an education and not to meet guys, you are insane, literally insane, delusional, in reality one is never going to happen and the other is going to happen anyway, and you could have gotten both for free at a bookstore. Worked for me. The only question for the future single mom is whether it's worth $XXXXXX a year to meet guys, and the answer is of course it's not, even 1318119;1446774190;mircea_popescu; nightclubs let ladies in for free." 1318120;1446774193;mircea_popescu;win. 1318121;1446774891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50214 @ 0.00053536 = 26.8826 BTC [-] 1318122;1446776114;mircea_popescu;aaannd... "if we had a system of healthcare in which doctors were paid the exact same regardless of diagnosis or severity, then there'd be little attention paid to "correct" diagnosis, all of our epidemiological data would be totally invalid, and the number one drug in America would be Xanax. "Wait, isn't that the situation now?" Huh, nailed it." 1318123;1446776153;mircea_popescu;"why is all us epidemiological data null and void ?" "because us doctors a) have to write down a diagnosis and b) are paid the same no matter what is is". 1318124;1446777026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10007 @ 0.00053447 = 5.3484 BTC [-] 1318125;1446777087;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38643 @ 0.00053447 = 20.6535 BTC [-] 1318126;1446780076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00053483 = 5.589 BTC [+] 1318127;1446780111;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b14 1318128;1446780991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00053483 = 25.2975 BTC [+] 1318129;1446781320;mircea_popescu;"See also Princeton, where you will pay them more to get the degree that they will then pay you less to use for them, in no other profession is learning how to do something more valuable than actually doing it. Is that ironic? " << it's not a profession, it's a fandom. and in all fandoms, you pay them more than they pay you, that's the definition. 1318130;1446781858;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b15 1318131;1446782695;punkman;https://gemmaschiebefineart2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/pp29.jpg 1318132;1446782695;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MfGlBI ) 1318133;1446782702;punkman;bon dia 1318134;1446782741;mircea_popescu;the moment he blurred the genitals he lost. 1318135;1446782832;punkman;he didn't, some other tard did 1318136;1446782837;punkman;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TSnWIOVeoPw/TyScz1upbGI/AAAAAAAABIc/k7LTUR42t0A/s1600/1400x720-05lMMKUb.jpeg 1318137;1446782838;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MfGvcm ) 1318138;1446782943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00053483 = 17.5959 BTC [+] 1318139;1446783095;punkman;"plaid", lol http://img-cache.oppcdn.com/img/v1.0/s:11541/t:QkxBTksrVEVYVCtIRVJF/p:14/g:br/o:2.5/a:30/q:90/1640x830-l3a2gZkPV6dEP9cq.jpg/587x830/22bc5e45f22b589a55258ba0820806b9.jpg 1318140;1446783097;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MfGDIS ) 1318141;1446783174;mircea_popescu;inexplicably, germany needs moar refugees. 1318142;1446783231;mircea_popescu;anyway, cockring and flag in asshole guy will make a great daddy i'm sure. 1318143;1446783921;punkman;https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2014/Apr/19/LiveLeak-dot-com-95a_1397947174-MiloMoire_1397949023.jpg 1318144;1446783922;assbot;LiveLeak.com - Redefining the Media - Expired File ... ( http://bit.ly/1MfHclP ) 1318145;1446783972;punkman;fuck you 1318146;1446783987;punkman;http://i.imgur.com/DTo21hb.jpg 1318147;1446783988;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MfHgCh ) 1318148;1446784102;mircea_popescu;i guess. 1318149;1446784313;mircea_popescu;"Well, feminism has emasculated men." Really? A girl did that to you? 1318150;1446784320;mircea_popescu;ahaha tlp delivers. 1318151;1446784590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00053447 = 13.9497 BTC [-] {2} 1318152;1446784895;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00053395 = 9.8781 BTC [-] {3} 1318153;1446785161;punkman;mod6: So, I'd hate to do webdevelopment or whatever, but it sure beats humping logs all day. << I'll second that 1318154;1446785193;trinque;the web's not so bad. if you overcomplicate it that's your problem 1318155;1446785225;punkman;it's fine when you are not working on someone else's vomit painting 1318156;1446785242;trinque;now that's for sure, but I thought these were ass-paintings 1318157;1446785268;punkman;I covered all three (ass, vagina, mouth) 1318158;1446785300;trinque;eh I'll take your word for it, lol 1318159;1446785310;punkman;though that last one was pushing paint-filled eggs out her vag 1318160;1446785333;trinque;"anti-hotlink protection" on the liveleak 1318161;1446785365;mircea_popescu;l'etude punkman, peinture a l'oriffice. 1318162;1446785377;punkman;heh 1318163;1446785385;mircea_popescu;in unrelated not-news, ""For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually movi 1318164;1446785385;mircea_popescu;ng." How can you work in media and not understand media? The fact that feminism is in the mainstream means that it doesn't exist, it is no longer real, in the same way that when you hear "gun control debate" it's a lie and "fiscal cliff" is an easy to market, safe distraction from the structural problems that can never be named, here's one: for any heterogeneous population, the expansion of a "welfare class" is logi 1318165;1446785386;mircea_popescu;cally inseparable from the entrenchment of an aristocracy, can't have one without the other once you get bigger than 20M, ask Bismarck. "Does he write for Time?" No. But keep this in mind every time you hear how great it is Bill Gates is curing malaria after leaving us all with Windows."" 1318166;1446785446;mircea_popescu;god damned i want this guy to write for qntra already where is he! 1318167;1446785452;punkman;http://cdn-parismatch.ladmedia.fr/var/news/storage/images/paris-match/actu/societe/les-instantanes-de-l-ete-798202/les-instantanes-de-l-ete/8440444-1-fre-FR/Les-instantanes-de-l-ete.jpg (the egg lady, nice tits eh) 1318168;1446785452;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qigi21 ) 1318169;1446785481;mircea_popescu;what's with all the amateur cameramen 1318170;1446785509;mircea_popescu;"i saw a naked lady in the street - i have nothing to say to her but i'd like to talk to my friends ABOUT her" 1318171;1446785557;punkman;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a5f_1367463130 1318172;1446785557;assbot;LiveLeak.com - Artist Milo Moire, naked on public transport.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QigrTd ) 1318173;1446785716;mircea_popescu;i honestly liked this stuff better a decade-two ago back when donna was doing it in between being hassled by police 1318174;1446785738;punkman;aha 1318175;1446785748;mircea_popescu;by now it's ... meh, whatevs. 1318176;1446785750;punkman;which Donna btw? 1318177;1446785755;mircea_popescu;kink.com donna 1318178;1446785770;mircea_popescu;ugly brunette chick 1318179;1446786181;punkman;the artsy cunts want to be marina abramovic but end up with "omg naked selfies" 1318180;1446786415;mircea_popescu;this could perhaps be a pretty uncanny book : the future of europe, with the white harlots living naked in the street and the proper arab girls living burka'd in the house. 1318181;1446786525;punkman;instant best-seller 1318182;1446786584;mircea_popescu;also just a sad repackaging of extant sad masturbation fodder (that gor bs etc). 1318183;1446786619;mircea_popescu;just, all the people who have the skill to pull it off have better shit to do, so the world is stuck enjoying 50 shades of grey and what's that thing games something tlp was ragging on. 1318184;1446787332;punkman;example of that last point http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2014/02/05/miley-abramovic-the-artist-came-in-like-a-wrecking-ball/ 1318185;1446787333;assbot;Miley Abramovic: The Artist Came In Like A Wrecking Ball | KQED Pop | KQED Arts ... ( http://bit.ly/1QiiZAF ) 1318186;1446787376;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency gbp 1318187;1446787384;gribble;Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 235.748942, vol: 61110.57993909 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 223.652, vol: 34809.55309 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 233.525578, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 246.05, vol: 87671.40060000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 225.0, vol: 7.9728 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 243.338, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 238.379928863 1318188;1446787398;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1318189;1446787404;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 329.324571, vol: 61109.43925441 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 336.01, vol: 569.5449 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 326.218689, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 343.6625, vol: 87668.58080000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 327.77948, vol: 19636.8924058 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 340.0, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 336.609302555 1318190;1446787407;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1318191;1446787413;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 358.39, vol: 61109.41925441 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 34810.39773 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 358.81, vol: 150412.5896413 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 355.01, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 374.0562, vol: 87659.40510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.90728, vol: 158.98769802 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 369.988, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1318192;1446787418;BingoBoingo;;;more 1318193;1446787418;gribble;360.778356481 1318194;1446787445;punkman;;;seen williamdunne 1318195;1446787446;gribble;williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: But yah 1318196;1446787515;punkman;anyone with a GBP account that would like to make a payment for me? 1318197;1446787526;punkman;or did we run out of brits 1318198;1446787723;mircea_popescu;we might've run out of brits. 1318199;1446787747;BingoBoingo;Or brits ran out of us, which ever 1318200;1446787884;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44250 @ 0.00053392 = 23.626 BTC [-] 1318201;1446787919;mircea_popescu;"If your reaction is Marina who? then heres a brief introduction." << how ab out "then this article has no fucking point, nobody cares about obscure if colorful manhattan garbage girls" 1318202;1446788046;punkman;interlude for log readers 1318203;1446788055;punkman;"It began tamely. Someone turned her around. Someone thrust her arms into the air. Someone touched her somewhat intimately. The Neapolitan night began to heat up. In the third hour all her clothes were cut from her with razor blades. In the fourth hour the same blades began to explore her skin. Her throat was slashed so someone could suck her blood. Various minor sexual assaults were carried out on her body." 1318204;1446788065;punkman;"She was so committed to the piece that she would not have resisted rape or murder. Faced with her abdication of will, with its implied collapse of human psychology, a protective group began to define itself in the audience. When a loaded gun was thrust to Marina's head and her own finger was being worked around the trigger, a fight broke out between the audience factions" 1318205;1446788214;mircea_popescu;right. because this is america, and art ~= circus. 1318206;1446788220;mircea_popescu;bwcause everything ~= circus. 1318207;1446788482;BingoBoingo;"murica: Moar circus freaks than evar 1318208;1446788563;mircea_popescu;"Dove is telling you you don't need to do anything to be beautiful, but it knows full well women must do something to themselves to feel good about themselves" << aha. and now tell me WHY THAT IS ? 1318209;1446788601;mircea_popescu;why is it that boys need to do something TO the world in order to feel at ease, whereas the girls need, NEED! to have something done TO them in order to feel GOOD with ~themselves~ ? aha, mkay, it's not all about sex. there's also... 1318210;1446788656;mircea_popescu;"The laws of economics and many studies of diversity tell us that if we tapped the entire pool of human resources and talent, our performance would improve." 1318211;1446788729;mircea_popescu;totally. as in, get type A (wanna do things to environment) people mixed with type B (wanna have things done to themselves) people and performance will improve. just as long as you agree to drop the male-centric definition of performance (the ration of damage done to the quake map by bullets expanded) for a more... you know. jackoffian definition of performance. 1318212;1446789768;punkman;http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fraternal-order-police-quentin-tarantino-837394 1318213;1446789768;assbot;Fraternal Order of Police to Quentin Tarantino: We've Got a Surprise Coming For You - Hollywood Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrjmrP ) 1318214;1446790080;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7937 @ 0.00053488 = 4.2453 BTC [+] {2} 1318215;1446790141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59013 @ 0.00053422 = 31.5259 BTC [-] {3} 1318216;1446790477;deedbot-;[Qntra] Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Experience Week of Extreme Price Volatility - http://qntra.net/2015/11/fiatbitcoin-interfaces-experience-week-of-extreme-price-volatility/ 1318217;1446791475;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b26 1318218;1446792093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00053392 = 14.6294 BTC [-] {2} 1318219;1446792947;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00053898 = 20.8046 BTC [+] {3} 1318220;1446793435;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57800 @ 0.0005339 = 30.8594 BTC [-] {3} 1318221;1446793743;punkman;"Bitcoin managed to get it up, but lacked the staying power of its youth and is now collapsing." 1318222;1446793789;punkman;"In Chinese, 保留 means "super important register fields that aren't on the datasheet."" 1318223;1446794033;mircea_popescu;lol my butt. "usg got a run for its money the likes of which it had hoped to never see. it will not survive another one in all likelyhood, which is just as well, because november promises at least a couple." 1318224;1446794411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00053538 = 23.5032 BTC [+] {2} 1318225;1446794542;ben_vulpes;has anyone ever used --verify-files with gpg successfully? 1318226;1446794624;punkman;ben_vulpes: what you want to batch them up? 1318227;1446794703;ben_vulpes;punkman: i know about --batch, but this --verify-files flag in the man pages seems to not work. at all. 1318228;1446794719;ben_vulpes;fails silently, returns 0, the whole nine. 1318229;1446794761;ben_vulpes;wondering if pebkac or with maintainers. 1318230;1446794854;mircea_popescu;i never used it. 1318231;1446794856;ben_vulpes;go, `mkdir /tmp/badsigs/; touch /tmp/badsigs/{1,2,3}.sig; gpg --verify-files /tmp/badsigs/*` 1318232;1446794862;punkman;ben_vulpes: "--multifile --verify may not be used with detached signatures. " 1318233;1446794879;mircea_popescu;in general, the path of "usable" in gpg is kind-of narrow. 1318234;1446794904;*;ben_vulpes rubs face 1318235;1446794909;ben_vulpes;thank you punkman 1318236;1446794963;ben_vulpes;--batch --verify it is then, shitgnomes. 1318237;1446795005;punkman;I don't think that would work 1318238;1446795274;mircea_popescu;"The Irish hate our order, our civilization, our enterprising industry, our pure religion. This wild, reckless, indolent, uncertain and superstitious race have no sympathy with the English character. Their ideal of human felicity is an alternation of clannish broils and coarse idolatry. Their history describes an unbroken circle of bigotry and blood." 1318239;1446795280;mircea_popescu;quoth a jew discussing teh celts. 1318240;1446795396;ben_vulpes;right you are, punkman. 1318241;1446795635;punkman;coarse idolatry because catholics? 1318242;1446795814;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00053793 = 18.6662 BTC [+] 1318243;1446795870;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 1318244;1446795878;mircea_popescu;but i suspect more because, peasants. 1318245;1446796183;BingoBoingo;Potato niggers 1318246;1446796194;BingoBoingo;I believe is the technical term 1318247;1446796198;punkman;heh 1318248;1446796773;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317912 << could also mean less money and freedom to move to the congo, spending 10% on rent instead of 90%? 1318249;1446796773;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 23:20:40; ascii_field: to me 'web dev' means 'work 17y.o. does' and is exactly equivalent to 'you are worth your weight in pork' 1318250;1446796926;punkman;and what use is non-webdev job if starving? 1318251;1446797010;*;BingoBoingo just accepts ascii enjoys the ghetto 1318252;1446797217;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48900 @ 0.00053538 = 26.1801 BTC [-] {2} 1318253;1446798692;mircea_popescu;the prison is in the mind. 1318254;1446798864;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21703 @ 0.0005353 = 11.6176 BTC [-] {3} 1318255;1446799197;BingoBoingo;lol http://qntra.net/2015/11/fiatbitcoin-interfaces-experience-week-of-extreme-price-volatility/#comment-73687 1318256;1446799198;assbot;Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Experience Week of Extreme Price Volatility | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NgEZ9O ) 1318257;1446799714;deedbot-;[Trilema] Filth - http://trilema.com/2015/filth/ 1318258;1446800389;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9562 @ 0.0005314 = 5.0812 BTC [-] {2} 1318259;1446803134;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00053233 = 8.5705 BTC [+] 1318260;1446804232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.0005314 = 5.8985 BTC [-] 1318261;1446804842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00053233 = 1.0647 BTC [+] 1318262;1446806245;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.0005314 = 29.1739 BTC [-] 1318263;1446806916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00053146 = 18.1228 BTC [+] 1318264;1446807465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23848 @ 0.00053399 = 12.7346 BTC [+] {3} 1318265;1446808498;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b16 1318266;1446808816;punkman;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-05/cia-saudis-give-select-syrian-militants-weapons-capable-downing-commercial-airliners 1318267;1446808817;assbot;CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwEk8K ) 1318268;1446808896;punkman;"In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas. " 1318269;1446809019;fluffypony;unhackable of course 1318270;1446809539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00053367 = 12.1677 BTC [-] 1318271;1446809783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27828 @ 0.00053751 = 14.9578 BTC [+] 1318272;1446811020;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - BTC to reach $1000 or more in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1169/btc-to-reach-1000-or-more-in-2015/#b29 1318273;1446812092;shinohai;+1 to BashCo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rlkh2/adam_back_says_there_is_vote_manipulation/cwpcopq 1318274;1446812093;assbot;BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxisP ) 1318275;1446812131;punkman;http://www.zdnet.com/article/protonmail-coughs-up-6000-to-stop-ddos-attack-ddos-carries-on-anyway/ 1318276;1446812132;assbot;ProtonMail coughs up $6000 to stop DDoS attack, DDoS carries on anyway | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxjNF ) 1318277;1446812142;shinohai;lolz! 1318278;1446812154;punkman;(in bitcoin) 1318279;1446812172;shinohai;That feeb advice to pay youe attackers sure paid off! 1318280;1446812178;shinohai;*your 1318281;1446812331;punkman;https://www.gofundme.com/protonmaildefense 1318282;1446812333;assbot;Support the ProtonMail Defense Fund by Andy Yen - GoFundMe ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxE2O ) 1318283;1446812398;shinohai;gofundme.com/shinohaiattackdefense 1318284;1446812416;shinohai;^ maybe I'll make that, good to be prepared for all contigencies 1318285;1446813009;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318074 <<< Yuo, JC is cool: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2f/e9/49/2fe949f112d852003a1934cd13d36a08.jpg 1318286;1446813009;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 01:06:40; mircea_popescu: in other news, johnny cash is fucking great. 1318287;1446813010;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTyTin ) 1318288;1446813416;shinohai;http://cointelegraph.com/news/115571/teenager-jailed-for-selling-4-million-worth-of-drugs-on-the-dark-net <<< dat picture "Now what? we have all your potato, burn yurt, and rape dottir." 1318289;1446813417;assbot;Teenager Jailed for Selling €4 Million Worth of Drugs on the Dark Net ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTzCjF ) 1318290;1446814061;*;jurov is blown to realize the full scope of "this" http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317689 1318291;1446814061;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 22:00:59; mircea_popescu: Thing 1. We're trying to reduce bitcoind to a form where it's actually worth cutting trees to print it ; 1318292;1446814101;jurov;and all the stuff below 1318293;1446814413;*;kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things 1318294;1446814541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00053751 = 4.9451 BTC [+] 1318295;1446814913;shinohai;;;later tell mod6 After nearly 2 weeks downtime I'm back up and attempting sync. 1318296;1446814914;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1318297;1446815329;mod6;cool! 1318298;1446815348;mod6;v054-TEST2? 1318299;1446815505;shinohai;yup, first time I got it back online since hdd barf 1318300;1446815663;mod6;awesome, let us know how she goes. 1318301;1446815697;jurov;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317882 << it was "fine" just because bad input that would trip up gets() was thought a mistake of the operator 1318302;1446815697;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 23:05:37; mircea_popescu: c worked in the 70s just fine, also. 1318303;1446815766;jurov;which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out" 1318304;1446815886;shinohai;mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? 1318305;1446816127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25850 @ 0.00053878 = 13.9275 BTC [+] {3} 1318306;1446816709;*;punkman orders from charcoal grill place that opened last week, notices "since 1984" on menu 1318307;1446819116;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00053954 = 23.2002 BTC [+] 1318308;1446820641;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40388 @ 0.00053367 = 21.5539 BTC [-] 1318309;1446824596;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.43979419 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b27 1318310;1446825155;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 296 @ 0.00351465 = 1.0403 BTC [-] {5} 1318311;1446825374;jurov;;;calc 1/0.00351465 1318312;1446825375;gribble;284.523352254 1318313;1446825410;jurov;davout: x.eur bot pls 1318314;1446825854;jurov;ANNOUNCE to CoinBr users: MPEx started rejecting new orders without clear reason, if you get an error, wait a minute and retry. 1318315;1446826375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00053954 = 6.2587 BTC [+] 1318316;1446826608;jurov;also, this happened since wednesday to several users, but I got no complaint :( 1318317;1446826758;jurov;"business as usual", perhaps... 1318318;1446827168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00053979 = 24.5874 BTC [+] {3} 1318319;1446827357;*;shinohai is irked that coinbr.net ranks higher .. 1318320;1446827801;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 6.50000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b28 1318321;1446828022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00054211 = 9.9748 BTC [+] {2} 1318322;1446828388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00054271 = 19.6461 BTC [+] {2} 1318323;1446828924;jurov;shinohai i have abandoned any hopes coinbr would be mass thing 1318324;1446828947;jurov;so, don't mind that 1318325;1446828974;shinohai;I like the site, just have no idea what I'm doing if I opened an account. 1318326;1446829006;jurov;only consumer thing that'd be doable would be trading of CFDs on mpex issues, or other boiler stuff 1318327;1446829014;jurov;and that's completely different than coinbr 1318328;1446829648;punkman;jurov: perhaps some more high-touch service could work 1318329;1446829699;jurov;punkman what's that? 1318330;1446829822;punkman;jurov: in regards to brokerage, I got no idea, but otherwise "denoting or relating to a business characterized by a very close relationship with its customers or clients." 1318331;1446829893;jurov;i could have closer relationship with some of you. but then it would be homo. 1318332;1446829967;jurov;;) 1318333;1446829974;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00053367 = 6.0321 BTC [-] {2} 1318334;1446830004;trinque;!b 4 1318335;1446830005;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1GYVHTM.txt ) 1318336;1446830294;shinohai;LOL 1318337;1446830322;shinohai;I need a crypto FA I guess, like that dish I pay to manage my bills for me. 1318338;1446830325;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly, i keep taking these dumps roughly in the shape of horse penis 1318339;1446830335;mircea_popescu;maybe my colon's trying to tell me something. 1318340;1446830373;kakobrekla;snake like and soft ? 1318341;1446830385;mircea_popescu;sort-of soft. 1318342;1446830391;kakobrekla;more fiber ? 1318343;1446830406;mircea_popescu;maybe closer relationships ? 1318344;1446830417;kakobrekla;less alcohol ? 1318345;1446830418;shinohai;of the equine kind? 1318346;1446830427;mircea_popescu;i don't even drink that much. 1318347;1446830436;mircea_popescu;well, not in russian terms at any rate. 1318348;1446830452;kakobrekla;last drink i had, hmm, prolly in romania. 1318349;1446830455;mircea_popescu;lol 1318350;1446830479;mircea_popescu;culture shock, largest i ever encountered : 17 yo me in london, goes into pub orders a drink. they bring him... im not even sure what it was, a thimbleful. 1318351;1446830498;mircea_popescu;i was like.... what the shit, is this like with wine, you brought me a little to sniff it ?! 1318352;1446830532;mircea_popescu;in romania opf the 90s, a drink = 100cc. you could get a half if you were sick or something, but you'd have to specify like you specify nonhot at mexican restaurant. five times. 1318353;1446830544;mircea_popescu;english idiots, 20cc ? wtf ? not even worth lifting. 1318354;1446830558;punkman;the "standard drink" of 20ml 1318355;1446830562;mircea_popescu;pfff. 1318356;1446830571;mircea_popescu;that's a standard in lab rat studies maybe. 1318357;1446830625;mircea_popescu;then came part 2, when the kids i was staying with were "omfg you went into a pub ordered a drink ?!?!?!?!" 1318358;1446830628;mircea_popescu;"yea... ?" 1318359;1446830633;mircea_popescu;"we have to wailt till 21!!!" 1318360;1446830637;mircea_popescu;"..." 1318361;1446830652;punkman;wasn't UK at 18? 1318362;1446830678;mircea_popescu;was it ? 1318363;1446830700;punkman;as I remember it 1318364;1446830722;mircea_popescu;aha apparently. 1318365;1446830738;mircea_popescu;"an exception being the UK, which has a minimum legal age of five for supervised consumption in private places" 1318366;1446830744;mircea_popescu;check out the brits being sensible ?! 1318367;1446830747;punkman;not bad 1318368;1446831007;mircea_popescu;ahahaha the idiocy of these people. seriously, the excuse for selling weapons to terrorists is that "a) they're not the terrorists but the terrorist's Italian cousin ; b) we disabled the checkbox anyway" ? 1318369;1446831024;mircea_popescu;someone needs to sell the mexican cartles the same things. o wait... they did. 1318370;1446831228;mircea_popescu; +1 to BashCo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rlkh2/adam_back_says_there_is_vote_manipulation/cwpcopq <---> http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-3043.0-3043.123 1318371;1446831230;assbot;BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxisP ) 1318372;1446831231;assbot;Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/20Aj9HZ ) 1318373;1446831366;mircea_popescu;the plan is the plan. the execution is not at the option of the horde. go reddit moar. 1318374;1446831416;mircea_popescu;jurov aha. monstrous. but what can you do ? i've been trying to "manage" the issue / pretend like it's not an issue but got efficiently (and righly) uprooted at every step. 1318375;1446831429;mircea_popescu;at least we ended up with a proper definition of scope, truthful if scary. 1318376;1446831439;mircea_popescu;now all we need are the sort of men who aren't liable to get scared. 1318377;1446831477;mircea_popescu;* kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things <<< i am of the hope that we're done with things and will be a proliferation of subthings. because fuck me if i'm going all the way into microbiology to fix computing. 1318378;1446831488;kakobrekla;lol 1318379;1446831742;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1318380;1446831755;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: it will soon be my 8th year of 'fix computing' 1318381;1446831770;ascii_field;must say, it is moar phun now, with phriends. 1318382;1446831777;punkman;"el ir derecho acorta las distancias, y tambien la vida." 1318383;1446831806;mircea_popescu;yeah alfie, the risk is that you lose pace. as in, guy who's been sitting in a fox hole for all summer, when a scout regiment finally shows up on the hillside goes all rambo on the opposition. 1318384;1446831811;mircea_popescu;sit put an' take it steady. 1318385;1446831939;*;ascii_field returns to sorting panzerfausts in the führerbunker 1318386;1446831990;mircea_popescu; /msg chanserv OP rename #bitcoin-assets #bitcoin-fix-computers 1318387;1446832167;kakobrekla;-and-the-world 1318388;1446832259;mircea_popescu; which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out" << the secret we're not ready for is that all ways to keep the herd out are dubious ways to keep the herd out. 1318389;1446832332;mircea_popescu;this goes right into the other discussion : by and large, the role of management is to lie to engineering, because if confronted nakedly, the TRUTH of reality is this head-explody vacuousness. so survivable representations have to be created, and they are better if created professionally - because in their absence the brain will create them anyway, and they'll have all the value and efficiency of something a 2 yo repti 1318390;1446832333;mircea_popescu;le came up with extemporaneously. 1318391;1446832342;mircea_popescu;hence "scientific paradigms", ie, "don't look at magnetism". 1318392;1446832358;mircea_popescu;that's the MAIN thing every single course book etc on physics says. and it is INSANE. 1318393;1446832360;mircea_popescu;yet here we are. 1318394;1446832393;*;ascii_field sourly mumbles something about unified theories 1318395;1446832441;mircea_popescu;the clear sign that it's not time yet is the juvenile idiotic look of the attempts to unified theories. 1318396;1446832467;ascii_field;iirc majorana's was spiffy 1318397;1446832470;mircea_popescu;do you know which is the most advanced one ? ask a 50something stupid woman from the midwest. "oh, it's all energy and people are different". that's the best there is. 1318398;1446832472;mircea_popescu;pfff. 1318399;1446832523;ascii_field;btw latest word is that majorana is prolly in mircea_popescu's graveyard 1318400;1446832552;mircea_popescu;o ? 1318401;1446832600;ascii_field;;;google ettore majorana argentina 1318402;1446832601;gribble;Ettore Majorana: The Mystery Might Be Solved - Science 2.0: ; The Physicist Who Vanished: The Strange Fate of Ettore Majorana ...: ; Ettore Majorana - Wikipedia, the free (1 more message) 1318403;1446832622;ascii_field;^ of interest to aficionados only 1318404;1446832636;mircea_popescu;i think you still gotta be somewhat rich to make chacarrita 1318405;1446832654;ascii_field;then in some unmarked field. 1318406;1446832656;ascii_field;che-style. 1318407;1446832694;punkman;phun-fact: if you want to get cremated in greece, they ship you to bulgaria 1318408;1446832705;ascii_field;punkman: how come? 1318409;1446832780;punkman;ascii_field: no place that does cremation, despite endless plans. 1318410;1446832797;ascii_field;needs moar germans. 1318411;1446833015;mircea_popescu;might be too warm for germans. 1318412;1446833036;mircea_popescu;ironically, the greeks invented cremation didn't they. 1318413;1446833049;punkman;definitely too warm, they turn bright pink the moment they step off the plane 1318414;1446833068;mircea_popescu;lol 1318415;1446833078;mircea_popescu;"look at all these german cunts" ? 1318416;1446833126;mircea_popescu;"The ad's association to therapy here was probably not planned but it was inevitable, just as Mantegna selecting a psychiatrist and not an engineer or a cook or a stripper as the mark in House Of Games was inevitable. It is the only system of rules based on self-deception, it encourages the illusion of "self" separate from behavior. And as long as psychiatry uncritically elevates identity over behavior, it makes it- 1318417;1446833126;mircea_popescu;- not the patients, it-- an easy mark for con men with their own agenda: SSI, the justice system, gun control, schools, whatever. "It's called a confidence game. Why, because you give me your confidence? No: because I give you mine." Take a minute, think it through." 1318418;1446833141;mircea_popescu;jesus check out tlp getting shit. it doesn't seem to help him, but those were older articles. 1318419;1446833227;mircea_popescu;how does the justice system con psychiatry to its own ends ? NOT by asking psychiatrists to buy into court proceedings. by pretending in court proceedings to highly esteem their opinions. 1318420;1446833252;mircea_popescu;"you now have a responsibility ot the people who trust you : to this and that they want you to do". 1318421;1446833284;mircea_popescu;"how about as a precondition to anything they abandon their self ?" "OMG WHAT ARE YOU A PSYCHOPATH THIS IS DOMESTIC ABUSE BLABLABLA". 1318422;1446833287;mircea_popescu;riight. 1318423;1446833756;mircea_popescu;jurov : i know. working on it, but it's not a trivial problem sadly. 1318424;1446833953;mircea_popescu;ftr, mpex will issue "Insufficient funds for this request." errors for all sorts of problems, including some that have nothing to do with the user. 1318425;1446834006;mircea_popescu;i get that this is unhelpful at best, but a) making specific error messages is not trivial, and b) the alternative denomination would be something like "generic error message" which whatever. 1318426;1446834123;mircea_popescu;the sad truth is that the requirements of safety and concurrency run into problems of time. there's a reason bitcoin blocks are 10 minutes long, and i fear i'm going to end up having to fundamentally redo the whole shebang. 1318427;1446835144;*;jurov expects mircea_popescu will end up with colored coins :D 1318428;1446835151;mircea_popescu;lol 1318429;1446835177;mircea_popescu;i would about 100x rather use a deedbot-based system. and i don't think something like that is usable. 1318430;1446835230;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1318431;1446835235;ascii_field;colored coins >> http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/mlk1.jpg 1318432;1446835236;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/20AthQY ) 1318433;1446835267;shinohai;trades as S.NGR 1318434;1446835267;mircea_popescu;(kinda shameful how we omitted the entire deedbot and btcalpha infrastructure from the things, becuase hey, fuck trinque and mike_c we got the stuff made so we no longer need it made so we can forget about it right ? 1318435;1446835287;*;mircea_popescu pays respect to the people who make it so he doesn't have to remember things.) 1318436;1446835288;ascii_field;'if it works, it's not AI' 1318437;1446835522;mircea_popescu;re the recent alcoa/aluminum discussion, but also a broader industry and futurology discussion : aluminum is now so cheap (ie, china has got SUCH a solid handle on it forever) that home furnishing shops here have started to offer, alongside pots in silverstone and teflon, pure, plain aluminum. marketed as such, too, "puro alumino". 1318438;1446835536;mircea_popescu;the catch being of course that the options are now "pay ~1k or ~100 pesos for a pot". 1318439;1446835562;mircea_popescu;no need to guess that once this option became available, the other two disbecame available "en interior". 1318440;1446835680;mircea_popescu;i have no fucking idea how they do this, either. maybe they discovered cold fusion and are keeping it quiet. maybe they're burning tibetans for heat. fuckall knows, but there they sit. 1318441;1446835716;ascii_field;hey most abundant metal on planet 3 1318442;1446835722;ascii_field;all you need is mains current 1318443;1446835723;mircea_popescu;no it's not. nickel. 1318444;1446835727;ascii_field;Al. 1318445;1446835729;mircea_popescu;and the mains current is the discussion. 1318446;1446835746;mircea_popescu;you mean in crust ? 1318447;1446835750;ascii_field;crust. 1318448;1446835753;ascii_field;where we live. 1318449;1446835781;mircea_popescu;a ok. 1318450;1446835784;ascii_field;cheap hydro in cn. 1318451;1446835787;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't put it past them. 1318452;1446835817;mircea_popescu;anyway even in crust i suspect mg might be higher. 1318453;1446835869;mircea_popescu;no, looky, you have it : silicon 28%, aluminum 8.2%, iron 5.6%, calcium 4.2%, sodium 2.5%, magnesium 2.4%, potassium, 2.0%, and titanium 0.61%. 1318454;1446836022;mircea_popescu;"Intelligent people, like racists, are fluent in describing themselves in opposition to what they are not, but ask them to define themselves by what they are, tell you what they do believe in, and they're lost. They have opinions on issues, sure, but ask for an overarching ideology and their face botoxes. Overarching ideology? Only people with manifestos have ideologies, not having an ideology is the whole point of 1318455;1446836022;mircea_popescu; being independent, the only thing they deal in is "facts" or "reality", and gun to head if they believe in anything it's "science." Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. You know, whatever ideologues hate." 1318456;1446836138;ascii_field;http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/04/best-gaffe-ever-hillary-clinton-says-former-presidents-shouldnt-have-to-disclose-criminal-history << prepare to l0l to death 1318457;1446836139;assbot;Hillary Clinton: Presidents Shouldn't Have To Disclose Their Criminal Histories ... ( http://bit.ly/20AvwE5 ) 1318458;1446836156;ascii_field;'“Earlier today I announced that as president I will take steps to ‘ban the box,’ so former presidents won’t have to declare their criminal history at the very start of the hiring process,” Clinton told the assembled crowd. She did not correct herself.' 1318459;1446836156;mircea_popescu;lmao! 1318460;1446836225;mircea_popescu;what is "ban the box" supposed to be ? 1318461;1446836271;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: in usa, it is traditional for folks showing up for a job opening to be asked whether they have been tried/convicted 1318462;1446836289;ascii_field;this typically takes the form of a paper form with 'boxes' to 'tick' 1318463;1446836313;mircea_popescu;heh 1318464;1446836317;ascii_field;initially they take applicant's word of honour, but sometimes check public record 1318465;1446836337;mircea_popescu;do people mostly check yes ? 1318466;1446836352;ascii_field;no idea 1318467;1446836372;mircea_popescu;"you haven't even been to prison ? and you call yourself an american ? get the fuck out of my fucking office, loser." 1318468;1446836379;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58570 @ 0.00053396 = 31.274 BTC [+] {3} 1318469;1446836400;ascii_field;at one point, it was fashionable to check credit agencies instead 1318470;1446836414;ascii_field;but then it was banned in many states (including md, where i happen to live) 1318471;1446836424;mircea_popescu;because blacks ? 1318472;1446836451;ascii_field;possibly 1318473;1446836458;mircea_popescu;i suppose the alternatively counter-cultural reaction would be to write in "no, and i'm not black, either" 1318474;1446836475;mircea_popescu;"i prefer the term jewish-african". 1318475;1446836513;mircea_popescu;o wait, the jews don't agree they're in africa, was it ? only egypt is. jewlandia is in... well it's almost practically europe right ? 1318476;1446836679;mircea_popescu;lol meanwhile @tlp, "I'm starting to wonder if the reason it is always pretty white girls who get kidnapped is that the media is the one kidnapping them." 1318477;1446837251;mircea_popescu;bwahahaha, ok : ""But that book was written in 1908. Based on what I've seen on Downton Abbey, things were a lot different then." 1318478;1446837251;mircea_popescu;Well, yes, obviously, there had just been a massive leap forward in technology and industrialization, a booming economy fueling a wealth gap, temporarily course corrected by a financial panic "precipitated" by the failure of two overspeculating brokerage houses. There were also, simultaneously, great advances in progressive causes like worker's rights and food quality, all on the background of decreasing importance of 1318479;1446837251;mircea_popescu; religion among educated whites in favor of science. Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. Tabloids were incomprehensibly popular, partisan media the norm. A loosening of conventional morality manifested as bored promiscuity, female bisexuality, and a flood of new porn the likes of which never existed before. 1318480;1446837253;mircea_popescu;"That does sound different. And awesome. What did their Millennial kids inherit, what did they experience over their adult lives, say 1929-1945?" 1318481;1446837256;mircea_popescu;I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960." 1318482;1446837404;mircea_popescu;let's, for the sake of exercise, suppose that in fact this is literally true, and so therefore sometime in the next decade the us signs an alliance treaty with russia only to try and invade the next year, and after they duke it out for a coupla years the chinese intervene and give everyone penis cages, like so : http://41.media.tumblr.com/b36f7278fe8eecbcd9c887e05101d8ed/tumblr_nsjbitlEao1szhm10o1_1280.jpg 1318483;1446837405;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/20AzdJL ) 1318484;1446837430;mircea_popescu;now suppose cca 2026 some twerps come to persuade you to go take minsk. and you quote this line of the log to them, and they go "huh" becaue hey, log is too difficult and what's a gpg ? 1318485;1446837450;mircea_popescu;so in 2027 they come for like 4-5 different similar reasons, with the same bs lines. and you quote the same log, and they go the same huh. 1318486;1446837463;mircea_popescu;and by 2028 they come twice a day, and you... what ? you do what, link the log, and on and on ? 1318487;1446837471;mircea_popescu;eventually they shoot you because you're an asshole. 1318488;1446837489;mircea_popescu;everyone [smart, white, rich, whatevs] likes to think of intelligence as a force. perhaps it is. 1318489;1446837519;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, the insistent, unyielding, disinterested in ANYTHING, eternally repeating the same inept shit behaviour of stupidity is certainly a force. that force is called will. 1318490;1446837547;mircea_popescu;which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. 1318491;1446837555;mircea_popescu;most people can't do that, obviously, which is why most people are most people. 1318492;1446837573;mircea_popescu;which is also why inteligence is not a force. not anymore than make-up is a force. 1318493;1446837634;mircea_popescu;the erect cock, as an incarnation of will, is the one and only driver of action. which is why attempts to legislate inaction are stuck pretending "rape" exists. unless everyone's flaccid, the supremacy of will over everything is too hard a sell. 1318494;1446837839;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1318495;1446837841;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318490 << iirc it turned out that kurt gödel was pretty good at this 1318496;1446837841;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. 1318497;1446837848;mircea_popescu;i can explain what scams are to wilful idiots until i fall over, it's not unlike trying to prevent storms by lubricating the water. 1318498;1446837851;mircea_popescu;has jack shit to do. 1318499;1446837932;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318490 << talking to inanimate objects is a misapplication of intelligence. it isn't magic, just a kind of instrument. 1318500;1446837932;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. 1318501;1446837960;mircea_popescu;ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the ones that are now. 1318502;1446837962;mircea_popescu;not* 1318503;1446837975;ascii_field;aha i recall mircea_popescu's article 1318504;1446837980;ascii_field;'anal children' or what was it 1318505;1446837989;mircea_popescu;right. 1318506;1446838016;ascii_field;now the one puzzle imho is why this mutation isn't fatal 1318507;1446838023;ascii_field;what keeps the kid from fighting with a garbage truck 1318508;1446838034;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318481 <<< I thought I remembered somewhere in the logs a conversation you had with someone who asked what a Wagram was. 1318509;1446838034;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:14:16; mircea_popescu: I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960." 1318510;1446838037;mircea_popescu;at about age 5 i wanted to hunt a cow. 1318511;1446838050;mircea_popescu;shinohai it's a quote tho 1318512;1446838059;shinohai;ah 1318513;1446838067;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: there is a sov joke about this! 1318514;1446838081;mircea_popescu;ascii_field and at about the same age, i wanted to fight a lamb! headbutting ftw 1318515;1446838086;mircea_popescu;i think i must have recounted the story. 1318516;1446838113;ascii_field;two drunken louts went to hunt boar. one wanders over to a neighbouring 'number' (hunt sub-lot) and says 'there are many moar boar here' 1318517;1446838118;ascii_field;so they move there. 1318518;1446838123;ascii_field;shoot boar, after boar, drink moar vodka 1318519;1446838128;ascii_field;eventually pass out 1318520;1446838137;mircea_popescu;moar boar lol 1318521;1446838143;ascii_field;wake up in drunk tank, minus their guns, and policeman tiredly says, 1318522;1446838154;ascii_field;'why did you go to the pig farm, why' 1318523;1446838160;mircea_popescu;lol 1318524;1446838271;mircea_popescu;anyway, the chief problem with self esteem, and it is indeed a major problem, is that coping strategies develop and are tested as the name says : through coping. will is a fabulous thing, which serves approximately the same role as beauty in teenaged females : now you don't gotta work at anything, because lalaland. and so you don't. and so you suck at everything ELSE. and you're fucked. the problem with self esteem is 1318525;1446838271;mircea_popescu;that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc. 1318526;1446838292;mircea_popescu;then people wanna take drugs, as if juddling all this shit in the vain, vague hope that it's evolutionarized to balance isn't hard enough, 1318527;1446838320;ascii_field;wunderwaffen 1318528;1446838344;ascii_field;what folks secretly want is to discover the dope that opponent does not yet have. 1318529;1446838364;mircea_popescu;how'd that work ? 1318530;1446838376;mircea_popescu;"imagine no baldness. there'd be no stopping them, a nation of supermen" ? 1318531;1446838397;ascii_field;nah it'd be something more like 'no cowardice' 1318532;1446838412;ascii_field;it wouldn't astonish me to learn that 'will' is chemically goosable 1318533;1446838422;ascii_field;just like cock erectitude 1318534;1446838424;mircea_popescu;yeah, because banal patristics 11 centuries old are too hard to read. "without [the possibility of] sin - no salvation" 1318535;1446838444;mircea_popescu;do you take viagra ascii_field ? 1318536;1446838453;ascii_field;must confess that i do not 1318537;1446838457;ascii_field;nor have sampled it 1318538;1446838458;mircea_popescu;well, why not ? 1318539;1446838473;mircea_popescu;are you the sort of republican central time backwards orc that refuses science ? 1318540;1446838482;ascii_field;sausage works fine by itself ? 1318541;1446838491;mircea_popescu;what, as god made it ? 1318542;1446838494;ascii_field;aha 1318543;1446838504;ascii_field;but if it did not, i'd consider it ? 1318544;1446838506;mircea_popescu;why dress then ? skin not work fine by self ? 1318545;1446838514;ascii_field;nope 1318546;1446838520;ascii_field;esp. not with acids. 1318547;1446838534;ascii_field;there are times when cock is dressed, even 1318548;1446838539;ascii_field;i think mircea_popescu also believes in this 1318549;1446838548;mircea_popescu;i am not arguing from my pov, but from the contrarian pov. 1318550;1446838557;mircea_popescu;so : why do you go by car ? legs don't work ? 1318551;1446838570;ascii_field;all 'dresses' are engineering tradeoffs 1318552;1446838584;ascii_field;i happen to like some moar, others - less 1318553;1446838600;ascii_field;matter of taste and ev calc 1318554;1446838602;mircea_popescu;for all you know "legs work fine but not fine enough" just like penis works fine but not fine enough. 1318555;1446838616;ascii_field;yes. ergo dope. i am not a principled opponent of dope 1318556;1446838627;mircea_popescu;but you don't take penis dope. 1318557;1446838639;mircea_popescu;you do take leg and would at least consider wakefulness dope. but not penis dope. 1318558;1446838659;mircea_popescu;is penis more identity than walking or sleeping ? 1318559;1446838715;ascii_field;i'd consider it if i had reason to think 'this needs to be more like an iron mechanism' 1318560;1446838727;mircea_popescu;but you consider this of your own sleep! 1318561;1446838735;ascii_field;aha. 1318562;1446838739;mircea_popescu;what gives ? 1318563;1446838757;ascii_field;i wouldn't want to fuck with sleep either if i didn't have to stand up at a post at x o'clock 1318564;1446838773;mircea_popescu;could it be that your girl is actually a MUCH NICER partner (for sex) than you are for yourself (in your own head, doing things, like sleeping) 1318565;1446838777;ascii_field;it is constraints from external things that lead people to want to turn their body into a reliable mechanism 1318566;1446838791;mircea_popescu;mno. it is INTERNALIZED constraints. 1318567;1446838826;ascii_field;anything could be. could be that i turn up a crate of penis dope and then end up restructuring whole personal economic life around getting moar. 1318568;1446838832;ascii_field;could be. 1318569;1446838843;mircea_popescu;which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need. 1318570;1446838892;ascii_field;as it is, i'm trying to navigate towards fewer 'dopes' (in the very general sense, far outside of 'things you must eat') rather than more. 1318571;1446838934;mircea_popescu;makes sense dunnit. 1318572;1446839004;ascii_field;re: sleep, i have a ~26 hr circadian and this isn't fixable 1318573;1446839009;ascii_field;(afaik) 1318574;1446839027;ascii_field;we know how to stretch a man's legs to make him taller than mircea_popescu, but not this 1318575;1446839078;mircea_popescu;question is why would we bother. 1318576;1446839095;ascii_field;which? legs ? 1318577;1446839117;ascii_field;there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance. 1318578;1446839126;ascii_field;u.s. folks travel illegally to get in. 1318579;1446839204;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2015#1002348 <> http://deedbot.org/faq.html 1318693;1446840916;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mu15Zn ) 1318694;1446840917;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQugZm ) 1318695;1446840925;ascii_field;being nonsense hasn't stopped it from much, has it 1318696;1446840937;mircea_popescu;all sorts of caged penii a la blair wet their pants^H^H^H^ girly panties because o noes, nude display of will. 1318697;1446840943;*;adlai oopsed, wanted to link http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318663 1318698;1446840943;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 20:05:45; mircea_popescu: how do you ascertain the truth of this ? 1318699;1446840943;mircea_popescu;intelligent people can be wilful too you know. 1318700;1446840950;mircea_popescu;not blair, sure. but ACTUALLY intelligent people. 1318701;1446840970;ascii_field;will worked great for ghadaffi 1318702;1446840974;ascii_field;(until not) 1318703;1446840975;trinque;adlai: there's a paragraph there on how, but I can provide some code at a later date 1318704;1446840977;ascii_field;also need the knife 1318705;1446840989;trinque;I am quite backed up on things deedbot- needs, but am aware of most of them 1318706;1446841014;adlai;some dark and dystopian future, mpex trade submission will require deedbot-style spending, for anti-ddos 1318707;1446841018;mircea_popescu;i'm confused. what are you trying to say adlai ? 1318708;1446841025;ascii_field;adlai: btc telegraph? 1318709;1446841033;adlai;ascii_field understood :) 1318710;1446841051;adlai;trinque: not criticising deedbot-, saying that it's the answer to mircea_popescu's question 1318711;1446841056;trinque;oh I got ya 1318712;1446841065;ascii_field;adlai: not needed if you can verify sigs at line bandwidth at a multitude of relays. 1318713;1446841072;ascii_field;adlai: see 'gossip' threads. 1318714;1446841095;mircea_popescu;my question was directed at jurov re real/unreal childhood memories. 1318715;1446841099;mircea_popescu;which was the point of the entire joke. 1318716;1446841104;mircea_popescu;what's the parrot remember ? 1318717;1446841124;jurov;there was ample evidence i am wrong 1318718;1446841127;ascii_field;does mircea_popescu recall the 'repressed memory' trials in usa ? 1318719;1446841142;mircea_popescu;yes. 1318720;1446841163;ascii_field;it was a grotesque crime for which - afaik - no one was made to answer. 1318721;1446841181;adlai;ascii_field: the telegraph decentralizes the market for rate limiting, rather than requiring baroque schemes of varying arbitrarity 1318722;1446841195;mircea_popescu;jurov yes, but the problem with the evidentiary based standard is that, well, the matrix. this is one of the biggest problems for young children, incidentally. what the fuck is going on! 1318723;1446841233;mircea_popescu;ascii_field imo they answered alright. nature works in the following way : the punishment is the deed. those people who bought into it got their life ruined. 1318724;1446841254;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: i am speaking of those who did not buy 1318725;1446841257;trinque;mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that thought itself is much like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318591 1318726;1446841257;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:50:44; mircea_popescu: you have to understand ontogenesis is a two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes the spaces between what will be your fingers. 1318727;1446841258;ascii_field;the prisoners 1318728;1446841259;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.0005405 = 24.3225 BTC [+] {4} 1318729;1446841265;mircea_popescu;ascii_field were they living in the us ? 1318730;1446841273;ascii_field;aha broomstick 1318731;1446841274;ascii_field;got it 1318732;1446841278;mircea_popescu;obviously. they bought. 1318733;1446841281;trinque;that thoughts arise, then are selected, and so on 1318734;1446841284;*;ascii_field adjusts anal road cone 1318735;1446841287;mircea_popescu;prolly trinque 1318736;1446841314;mircea_popescu;it's really very much an open topic, which is why the "evidence based" court's bitch goes all in for "mri scans!" 1318737;1446842087;mircea_popescu;"This is the whole gimmick of media, not polar but triangular, right, left, middle, mobilizing an army of assonauts to feel strongly enough about something that they don't do anything." 1318738;1446842088;mircea_popescu;bwahaha 1318739;1446842425;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1318740;1446842429;ascii_field;arse longa. 1318741;1446842483;mircea_popescu;no but looky, there's fifty people eating in a free fast food joint, except the rule is that when the music stops the cook comes out and picks a patron to suck his cock. 1318742;1446842519;mircea_popescu;"oh i've been raped". no, you haven't, you were whoring out. "but nobody asked me" yeah, they did. "i'm just here for the free food" well... enjoy the extra protein. actually natural. 1318743;1446842525;ascii_field;arse longa cocka brevis 1318744;1446842544;trinque;jurov: your observation about yourself is not unlike experiences one might have on acid, in the ballpark of "this entire system of ideas that forms the world as I know it is built of assertions accepted within this universe simulation in the mind" which might be an excellent argument for the general population not having access to the stuff 1318745;1446842560;trinque;"I am the 3rd coming of Jesus H Christ" or whatever, even worse 1318746;1446842565;mircea_popescu;not having access to the stuff of being ficve years old ? 1318747;1446842578;mircea_popescu;or moreover for adults seeking to relive 5yo-dom being a tad regressive ? 1318748;1446842614;ascii_field;hey wasn't it mircea_popescu writing prescriptions for ego amputation ? 1318749;1446842636;mircea_popescu;link ? 1318750;1446842637;trinque;I would accept that in the vast majority of uses it's regressive 1318751;1446842642;trinque;kinda what I'm saying 1318752;1446842658;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1316487 1318753;1446842658;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 00:34:39; mircea_popescu: better model; always asks current ego to die because current ego is a piece of shit. 1318754;1446842692;mircea_popescu;aha ? 1318755;1446842711;ascii_field;possibly the folks who want to 'regress to 5yo' are going for something like this ? 1318756;1446842721;ascii_field;'i figured out that being me sux, i'd like to be somebody else' 1318757;1446842725;mircea_popescu;or if you ask tlp, they're doing it TO AVOID something like this. 1318758;1446842782;mircea_popescu;similarly, if you ask america to vote, ( ) balance the budget ; ( ) replay the 90s, guess ? 1318759;1446842786;trinque;I have seen both, certainly. Chicks that take all kinds of substances such that they never have to look at their model of the world with clear eyes 1318760;1446842800;ascii_field;clear eyes ?!! 1318761;1446842807;ascii_field;!s room will be empty 1318762;1446842808;assbot;2 results for 'room will be empty' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=room+will+be+empty 1318763;1446842823;trinque;ascii_field: you know very well I'm merely saying "not drunk/high" 1318764;1446842876;ascii_field;everybody who knowingly takes anything is 'avoiding looking at the world with not-having-taken-it eyes' 1318765;1446842881;ascii_field;tautologically 1318766;1446842896;trinque;the word merely would be useful there 1318767;1446842962;trinque;one would not refused to use a microsope because it is not merely his own eyes 1318768;1446842970;trinque;*refuse 1318769;1446842992;ascii_field;ask bellarmino 1318770;1446843085;mircea_popescu;fine, one would not refuse to use a condom because it's not their own cock! 1318771;1446843143;trinque;lol 1318772;1446843170;ascii_field;isn't this precisely why folks refuse ? 1318773;1446843233;trinque;with a great deal of discipline I'm certain one can observe himself in the same manner with no such substance. 1318774;1446843252;trinque;and in fact that associating the state of mind with the dope may be *truly* regressive 1318775;1446843275;ascii_field;with 'a great deal of discipline' one could become napoleon. 1318776;1446843286;trinque;ever the "nuh uh" 1318777;1446843288;ascii_field;the purpose of dope in this example is as a force multiplier. 1318778;1446843298;ascii_field;MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. 1318779;1446843304;ascii_field;like steroiding. 1318780;1446843335;ascii_field;and i realize that most idiots want to get a maxint from a zero 1318781;1446843337;trinque;perhaps; I would not know. as with modafinil, would mircea_popescu say "yes, this is called paying attention, you idiots" 1318782;1446843338;ascii_field;(return / effort) 1318783;1446843340;trinque;:D 1318784;1446843366;ascii_field;i would like to see how much attention mircea_popescu would pay if he NEVER got a full night of sleep 1318785;1446843428;ascii_field;(not really, because i would not wish this on a friend. but you get the idea) 1318786;1446843470;ascii_field;alternatively, let's teach legless folk to will themselves new legs 1318787;1446843477;ascii_field;or hell, moar legz 1318788;1446843480;ascii_field;i could use 4-6 1318789;1446843488;trinque;considering the multiple placebo effect threads, I would not be shocked to find believing "I am about to enter a hyper-aware state" is all there is to it 1318790;1446843499;mircea_popescu; MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. << this is fundamentally how it doesn't work. 1318791;1446843519;mircea_popescu;and no, this is not how steroids work, either. this is how you/people WANT them to work. 1318792;1446843524;ascii_field;yes 1318793;1446843527;ascii_field;it is. 1318794;1446843535;mircea_popescu;"more useless appearance of the desired thing for less work". 1318795;1446843546;mircea_popescu;that useless is there necessarily. 1318796;1446843548;ascii_field;as i said, most of the takers want 'world for nothing' 1318797;1446843557;mircea_popescu;no. 1318798;1446843572;ascii_field;recall the kalash thread ? 1318799;1446843576;ascii_field;'shit hanging off the side' 1318800;1446843601;mircea_popescu;the problem isn't that they want something. they do not. they pointedly not only wish not to have it, THEY WISH IT TO NOT EXIST. because it scares them like penis @ little girl. 1318801;1446843606;ascii_field;'stop hanging shit, visit a firing range...' 1318802;1446843615;mircea_popescu;what they want is to be recognised BY OTHERS as, and this is important : 1318803;1446843622;mircea_popescu;not as "in possession of it", but "immune from it" 1318804;1446843637;mircea_popescu;the secret hope of boi with stupid shit stuck on all sides of rifle IS NOT that he can now go shoot people. 1318805;1446843647;mircea_popescu;but that HE IS IMMUNE TO PEOPLE COMING TO SHOOT HIM 1318806;1446843667;mircea_popescu;which is why "if you fuck it it only gets heavy and you still can't hit largest side of barn" does not deter him. nor even occur,. 1318807;1446843688;mircea_popescu;he wants to take the "spear that will pierce any shield" and fashion it into a shield that will stop any spear. 1318808;1446843717;ascii_field;this is entirely true and a cursory familiarity with american sport shooting folks will confirm 1318809;1446843720;mircea_popescu;which is why "gun control" is even a thing : gun owners are its biggest advocates. 1318810;1446843722;ascii_field;but might be a usa-thing? 1318811;1446843731;mircea_popescu;it's just a "stupid people with resources" thing 1318812;1446843735;mircea_popescu;not more usa than rome or egypt 1318813;1446843783;mircea_popescu;and the entire "go shooting" thing they do... 1318814;1446843796;mircea_popescu;i take it as a personal point of pride that i've yet to discharge a weapon and NOT HIT SOMETHING. 1318815;1446843822;mircea_popescu;what they do is go empty magazine after magazine in the worship of "look see, even THIS great gun can't hit anyone". 1318816;1446843832;mircea_popescu;"i must be immune" 1318817;1446843856;mircea_popescu;"my immunity from gunfire is 7k shots a week, how high is YOUR level of gunfire immunity ? over 9000 ?" 1318818;1446843856;ascii_field;'you don't hit much but twigs and brush, when you hosedown...' 1318819;1446843860;ascii_field;(song) 1318820;1446843925;ascii_field;btw the 'poor dancer is hindered by his own arse' dynamic is present in all walks of u.s. like, from shooting to woodworking 1318821;1446843931;ascii_field;'even this magical drill!111...!!' 1318822;1446843936;mircea_popescu;obviously. 1318823;1446843941;mircea_popescu;it is after all a totalitarian culture. 1318824;1446844019;ascii_field;now, the infestation of genuinely subpar tools feeds into it. 1318825;1446844030;mircea_popescu;inasmuch as it's driven by it 1318826;1446844043;ascii_field;aha why give cargocultist a real airplane?!!1 1318827;1446844051;ascii_field;what kind of lunatic would 1318828;1446844055;mircea_popescu;"productivity enhancing software", the surefire halmark of people who aren't productive and don't wish to be. 1318829;1446844059;mircea_popescu;and wish you not to be, either. 1318830;1446844068;mircea_popescu;stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement. 1318831;1446844083;*;ascii_field for some reason always recalls 'boss screens' 1318832;1446844093;ascii_field;do gamez still have'em ? 1318833;1446844094;mircea_popescu;which takes us round circle to viagra : yeah, i don't take it either. because i happen to be satisfied with the sex. because the women i fuck rock. because etc. 1318834;1446844097;mircea_popescu;virtuous circle. 1318835;1446844107;ascii_field;aha 1318836;1446844110;mircea_popescu;ascii_field eulora doesn't. 1318837;1446844115;ascii_field;mega-secret of viagra is who eats it and why 1318838;1446844133;ascii_field;and the fiction about 'dysfunction' is quite likely the same order of fiction as with psych meds 1318839;1446844162;ascii_field;when its time to fuck hippo - viagra. 1318840;1446844183;ascii_field;(or monastery.) 1318841;1446844224;ascii_field;all extant dopes are, afaik, used for some variant of hippo-fucking. 1318842;1446844243;ascii_field;(things that no one would do if he had half an alternative other than the broomstick) 1318843;1446844280;trinque;!up ascii_field 1318844;1446844491;trinque;ascii_field: or perhaps when it's time to quiet the neuroses and ponder the structure of DNA, LSD 1318845;1446844498;ascii_field;aha 1318846;1446844506;ascii_field;or if you need to learn what colour 33 is 1318847;1446844514;ascii_field;or whether nouns smell of petrol 1318848;1446844581;*;kakobrekla had no such experience with lsd 1318849;1446844596;*;ascii_field not expert on subj 1318850;1446844598;trinque;yeah, the world was exactly as it is 1318851;1446844612;trinque;it was the degree of attention being paid to it 1318852;1446844644;trinque;it would seem that most lives *vastly* underutilize the capabilities of the brain, worse even than the mythical 10% figure 1318853;1446844890;mircea_popescu;or of the musculature. hence pcp. 1318854;1446844981;mircea_popescu;of the greatest interest here is this tlp discussion : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/03/when_is_it_okay_to_rape_a_woma.html 1318855;1446844983;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: When Is It Okay To Rape A Woman? 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( http://bit.ly/209bKiS ) 1318856;1446845019;mircea_popescu;particularly the point where he goes 1318857;1446845019;mircea_popescu;Because picturing yourself exerting power is fantasy; imagining yourself as victim is easy. Which is why you brought this all up. You spend a lot of your waking life creating elaborate fantasies of power that contain their own self-justifying logic, and those fantasies are so numerous that added together they actually take up a real portion of your day. A portion you're not spending on something else. If I saw a Ta 1318858;1446845019;mircea_popescu;rdis, then I would know how to pilot it. If such a drug existed, then my sexual problems would all disappear. 1318859;1446845020;mircea_popescu;What you don't see is that this logic isn't even self-justifying, it is self-destructing. Not "since I have sexual problems, I wish I had the drug"; but, "since I wish I had the drug, I have sexual problems." Since I wish I had the drug, two hours have already gone by. I'm staying in tonight. 1318860;1446845105;kakobrekla;i enjoyed the subjective time dilation experience 1318861;1446845170;trinque;^ this I think is just focus 1318862;1446845174;trinque;though I would've otherwise said the same 1318863;1446845174;punkman;you need a Tardis 1318864;1446845209;mircea_popescu;lol 1318865;1446845268;punkman;from the department-of-mailing-lists-I-didn't-read-but-saved-it-anyway-because-maybe-sometime: http://dpaste.com/16WQEP7 Organizing the World's Delusions 1318866;1446845271;assbot;dpaste: 16WQEP7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUFyZP ) 1318867;1446845337;ascii_field;apocryphally, p erdos was once persuaded by a close phriend to quit dope for a month 1318868;1446845341;ascii_field;at the end, he said 1318869;1446845353;ascii_field;'thank you - you have showed me that i am not an addict.' 1318870;1446845374;mircea_popescu;"It is a kind of extreme method acting; call it ironically absurd behavior." << i knew "method acting" was fucking stupid the moment i heard of it 1318871;1446845382;ascii_field;'but with [the dope] a page boils with theorems. without - just a piece of paper. mathematics lost a month because of you.' 1318872;1446845417;*;trinque sees the "therefore not today" very clearly in all of this 1318873;1446845427;ascii_field;^ st augustine 1318874;1446845445;punkman;better living through chemistry (tm) 1318875;1446845461;ascii_field;hey, carrying a kalash in kandahar is also 'through chemistry' 1318876;1446845490;ascii_field;('you may not be interested in' chemistry but 'it is interested in you') 1318877;1446845568;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: 'method acting' does raise the question : as opposed to what ? 1318878;1446845588;pete_dushenski;wtf are you doing if not living and breathing your character ? 1318879;1446845590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00054051 = 16.8639 BTC [+] {4} 1318880;1446845611;punkman;not everyone can have character 1318881;1446845650;pete_dushenski;not everyone can have cake 1318882;1446845691;ascii_field;'cake sold out, have some death' 1318883;1446845720;pete_dushenski;though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes 1318884;1446845753;pete_dushenski;'death tomorrow' 1318885;1446845911;trinque;ascii_field: ah ah you said death first! 1318886;1446846017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9603 @ 0.00053777 = 5.1642 BTC [-] 1318887;1446846055;trinque;I think lately he has abandoned the drag to act. 1318888;1446846089;trinque;http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/31/article-2480306-191BC6FE00000578-587_306x500.jpg << hell of a look 1318889;1446846090;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUH7H0 ) 1318890;1446846750;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317770 << now that i see this has been awarded a priority at the level of 'Thing,' i'm giving more thought to what this might look like in praxis. 1318891;1446846750;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 22:31:57; BingoBoingo: So pete still working on a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear? 1318892;1446846817;pete_dushenski;it's one thing for me to represent tmsr~ to fishwraps as a voluntary service, correcting issues in 'news pieces' when and where i see them and acting as a point of contact for future inquiries 1318893;1446846871;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00053753 = 5.8322 BTC [-] {4} 1318894;1446846921;pete_dushenski;but it's another to represent the businesses that converge in this space, be it mpex, mg, nsa, xotika, bitbet, or what have you. this representation wouldn't be voluntary, which means that it'd need to have a measurable output in order to be billable 1318895;1446846935;*;shinohai would consider marriage again if his bethrothed agreed to wed here: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/11/07/world/middleeast/07Plane-web/07Plane-web-master675.jpg 1318896;1446846936;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUIF3N ) 1318897;1446846988;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1318898;1446846990;pete_dushenski;how newspaper mentions, hits, views, etc. would be measured and compensated remains an open question. and one of considerable interest to me personally. so i'm chewing on it. 1318899;1446846993;ascii_field;shinohai: what's this 1318900;1446847030;pete_dushenski;of course, suggestions vis-a-vis tmsr~/wot-business pr needs and expectations are more than welcome 1318901;1446847040;pete_dushenski;this is far from a solved consideration 1318902;1446847076;mircea_popescu; though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes << like who, bogart ? 1318903;1446847082;pete_dushenski;shinohai: you still wedded, or divorced ? 1318904;1446847232;*;pete_dushenski has only seen casablanca, can't speak to bogart's other roles. 1318905;1446847318;shinohai;ascii_field: funeral for one of the Russian air disaster victims. 1318906;1446847330;shinohai;pete_dushenski: unwed 1318907;1446847345;ascii_field;shinohai: yes but am i missing something 1318908;1446847357;pete_dushenski;wasn't it 'conscious uncoupling' or something equally vomit-worthy ? 1318909;1446847374;shinohai;I just like the cemetary, awesum place to get married, quite beautiful in my eye. 1318910;1446847412;shinohai;!s http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html 1318911;1446847413;assbot;Internet firms to be banned from offering unbreakable encryption under new laws - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1lb2TwM ) 1318912;1446847413;assbot;0 results for 'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuknews%2Fterrorism-in-the-uk%2F11970391%2FInternet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html 1318913;1446847429;trinque;meaning no disrespect to shinohai, the thread of "therefore not today" just keeps going. fascinating. 1318914;1446847434;ascii_field;shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-11-2015#1315932 1318915;1446847434;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 17:49:44; assbot: Theresa May unveils UK surveillance measures in wake of Snowden claims | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmLrQX ) 1318916;1446847458;ascii_field;trinque: all of life is an exercise in 'not today' 1318917;1446847462;trinque;indeed. 1318918;1446847463;ascii_field;except possibly for the day. 1318919;1446847542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39169 @ 0.00054044 = 21.1685 BTC [+] {2} 1318920;1446847601;mircea_popescu;o hey check it out, ghetto island pretending like it has legislative pwoer and shit ? 1318921;1446847734;ascii_field;'Ministers have no plans to ban sex because it has an important role in the protection of legitimate economic activity such as creating bank users and lottery players. But there is concern over some aspects of so-called end-to-end fuck where only the thruster and recipient of thrust can feel it.' 1318922;1446847750;ascii_field;(possibly edited for clarity) 1318923;1446847796;shinohai;Excellent paraphrasing. 1318924;1446847812;mircea_popescu;whole community gotta participate in the fucking! 1318925;1446847827;ascii_field;esp the chief 1318926;1446847835;ascii_field;and his shriveled broad 1318927;1446847881;mircea_popescu;aha 1318928;1446847882;ascii_field;only a t3rr0r1st!!111 would reject the interpository tentacle. 1318929;1446847904;mircea_popescu;"people transacting without involvement from the ministers would be tantamount to the uk government being irrelevant!!!" 1318930;1446848243;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - EUR/USD Parity in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1111/eur-usd-parity-in-2015/#b39 1318931;1446848562;pete_dushenski;http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151102007003/en/Activision-Blizzard-Acquire-King-Digital-Entertainment-5.9 << mircea_popescu's slavegirls really pumped up the value of this game eh 1318932;1446848563;assbot;Activision Blizzard to Acquire King Digital Entertainment for $5.9 Billion | Business Wire ... ( http://bit.ly/1NULamJ ) 1318933;1446848599;mircea_popescu;whossat ? 1318934;1446848605;mircea_popescu;o candy crush makers aha 1318935;1446848823;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00053655 = 6.1167 BTC [-] 1318936;1446848841;pete_dushenski;!up ascii_field 1318937;1446848879;mircea_popescu;http://41.media.tumblr.com/fcfb1d8283bdbd71d50896fb45a81f9f/tumblr_ngnq0hPBx31qfz2j8o1_500.jpg << black is the culture of proliferate! 1318938;1446848879;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NULKkk ) 1318939;1446848935;ascii_field;https://cryptome.org/2015/11/gchq-scarborough-vehicle.htm << the new111! cryptome 1318940;1446848936;assbot;GCHQ Scarborough Vehicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1NULMJ4 ) 1318941;1446848942;ascii_field;snore. 1318942;1446849089;shinohai;Wonder if Qween Purp is one of those blacks like the college professor that believes white people should deposit all their money into black people's bank accounts. 1318943;1446849120;adlai;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhagwan-chowdry/i-shall-happily-accept-th_b_8462028.html "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will settle 1318944;1446849120;assbot;I (Shall Happily) Accept the 2016 Nobel Prize in Economics on Behalf of Satoshi Nakamoto | Bhagwan Chowdhry ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUM8iM ) 1318945;1446849122;adlai;later." 1318946;1446849137;mircea_popescu;what money ? 1318947;1446849150;shinohai;hue 1318948;1446849167;mircea_popescu;adlai what the fuck is this retarded bullshit ? 1318949;1446849184;ascii_field;gavin? 1318950;1446849188;mircea_popescu;they ran out of costumes that fit gavin, moved on to whatever sand niggers ? 1318951;1446849200;adlai;tl;dr: Q: "who do you nominate for our prize?" A: "my cleverness" 1318952;1446849210;ascii_field;'Follow Bhagwan Chowdhry on Twitter' 1318953;1446849216;ascii_field;great phonwalla name 1318954;1446849218;mircea_popescu;i'll pass. 1318955;1446849911;pete_dushenski;christina hop in the #freenode channel and ask one of the admins for a cloak sometime. it'll prevent your ip address from showing. 1318956;1446850307;punkman;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2lcyj7KOSFo/T4MHhnzLPlI/AAAAAAAAABM/jqkKlrecVQo/s1600/agua+viva+giigante.jpg 1318957;1446850308;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUNYjV ) 1318958;1446850375;davout;jurov: bot will be back on monday, answered earlier turned out I wasn't voiced 1318959;1446850397;jurov;davout: ty 1318960;1446850519;*;BingoBoingo kinda wishes the James Bond flick "A View to a Kill" was a documentary 1318961;1446850560;punkman;from the department of titles: "Ben Carson Defends Himself Against Allegations That He Never Attempted to Murder a Child" 1318962;1446850636;davout;mircea_popescu: irloled at parrot joke 1318963;1446850836;mircea_popescu;:p 1318964;1446850997;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1318965;1446851466;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/2da60298adcd8ae82533224d5f426e0e/tumblr_n7sz1yzENX1tce9keo1_400.gif 1318966;1446851467;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUPzGn ) 1318967;1446851609;mod6;<+shinohai> mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? << yeah, OpenBSD, achieved a full sync a few months back. had to patch it by hand. 1318968;1446851723;mod6;i wanna say it was phf's patches from back in July. 1318969;1446851812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103100 @ 0.00053654 = 55.3173 BTC [-] {2} 1318970;1446851978;shinohai;Thx mod6 ... i dun goofed with my pogoplug, reinstalling arch on it nau xD 1318971;1446852452;ascii_field;http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/shoddy-programming-causes-new-ransomware-to-destroy-your-data << lulzz 1318972;1446852453;assbot;Page not found ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbeAB ) 1318973;1446852516;mircea_popescu;ok, so i've made pilaf, and included a random mushroom found in china town. it's roughly speaking like a loofah. 1318974;1446852542;mircea_popescu;pale white, no apparent stalk, if dried readily crumbles / grates 1318975;1446852559;mircea_popescu;very pleasant flavour, anyone know it ? 1318976;1446852585;punkman;morels? 1318977;1446852605;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14986 @ 0.00053654 = 8.0406 BTC [-] {2} 1318978;1446852622;punkman;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/White_Morel_IMG_0399.JPG 1318979;1446852625;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbuzB ) 1318980;1446852628;ascii_field;in other lulz, https://i.imgur.com/BUXWGWg.png 1318981;1446852629;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbuQ5 ) 1318982;1446852699;pete_dushenski;http://www.medianama.com/2015/11/223-tinyowl-hostage-crisis/ << we're not gonna take it ! 1318983;1446852700;assbot;TinyOwl’s hostage crisis – Part I - MediaNama ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbAXV ) 1318984;1446852708;shinohai;Someone should perhaps talk with him about the concept of spelling. 1318985;1446852712;mircea_popescu;punkman naw, the thing is smooth 1318986;1446853032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21910 @ 0.00053751 = 11.7768 BTC [+] {3} 1318987;1446853225;pete_dushenski;https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/11/06/eric_raymond.jpg?x=648&y=348&crop=1 << esr in his prime, with unknown chica, circa '06 1318988;1446853225;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbcwvm ) 1318989;1446853247;pete_dushenski;or perhaps esr with unknown dood 1318990;1446853252;shinohai;da fuq 1318991;1446853265;pete_dushenski;!up ascii_field 1318992;1446853278;pete_dushenski;shinohai: :D 1318993;1446853367;shinohai;I must banish that from my memory with a pricey escort. I may send you the bill pete_dushenski. 1318994;1446853370;shinohai;^^ 1318995;1446853398;pete_dushenski;sure, add it to the pile ;) 1318996;1446853480;*;trinque groaned aloud 1318997;1446853501;pete_dushenski;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/05/mac_os_x_malware_explodes/ << or, why the fuck are you running anything after 10.6 1318998;1446853502;assbot;MacBooks are so hot right now. And so is Mac OS X malware • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbcTpL ) 1318999;1446853534;mircea_popescu;dear god wtf is that. 1319000;1446853563;shinohai;I dunno but it just cost pete_dushenski a bitcoin. 1319001;1446853574;pete_dushenski;#worthit 1319002;1446853645;shinohai;I was unaware they had that sort of outfit in "Oh my God it's coming toward us!" sizes. 1319003;1446853658;pete_dushenski;"This year, there have been 948 OS X malware samples, compared with 180 in the years 2011-14 inclusive." << nice work, cook. way to limp-wrist it. 1319004;1446853685;*;pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo 1319005;1446853714;punkman;dat sideboob 1319006;1446853744;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is count to do with it 1319007;1446853757;mircea_popescu;"apple store has 68765985897 games this year, up 0987985698 from 54897658976598 last year" 1319008;1446853764;mircea_popescu;"except they're all the same three games reskinned" 1319009;1446853843;pete_dushenski;aha, quality not quantity 1319010;1446853867;pete_dushenski;speaking of quality, http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/11/04/sha-1-deprecation-update/ 1319011;1446853868;assbot;SHA-1 Deprecation Update | Microsoft Edge Dev Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdsQy ) 1319012;1446853871;shinohai;http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/argentinie-jaagt-op-mexicaanse-drugsbaas-el-chapo~a4180228/ <<< kewl maybe mp can have drinks with him. 1319013;1446853872;assbot;Argentinië jaagt op Mexicaanse drugsbaas El Chapo | Buitenland | de Volkskrant ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdqbu ) 1319014;1446853908;pete_dushenski;"winbloze CONSIDERS deprecating sha1". so it's on the table. just so you know. 1319015;1446854007;punkman;from el reg http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096&cpage=1#comment-237490 1319016;1446854010;assbot;Dispatches from the Iranian cyberfront ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdAj6 ) 1319017;1446854035;BingoBoingo;* pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo << Pretty sure ESR was always a pigfucker 1319018;1446854145;pete_dushenski;at least he's staying within the species 1319019;1446854190;mircea_popescu;so wait, now that they lost "cryptoexpert" bruce whatshisname, and the entire zimmerman angle didn't work, the plan is to bring the deceased husk of esr back to complement the recently stolen cryptome into some sort of bitcoin-foundation-3.0-except-with-more-gunk ? 1319020;1446854227;mircea_popescu;why not just program re-runs of obama's sex tape if this is the level of effort. 1319021;1446854271;mircea_popescu;"no, i'm sure it's just a crazed ruiu acting alone". obviously. 1319022;1446854411;ascii_field;ahahahahaha 1319023;1446854642;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: I'm not so sure 1319024;1446854659;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: You do remember how Animal Farm ends? 1319025;1446854873;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it... 1319026;1446854925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30411 @ 0.00053478 = 16.2632 BTC [-] {2} 1319027;1446855330;pete_dushenski;"Volkswagen of America, in a bid to regain the trust of current diesel owners, will announce a prepaid card campaign on November 9, TTAC has learned. The program, detailed to dealers Thursday in preparation of its public announcement, is aimed at current owners of affected TDI models regardless of whether they bought their car new or used. Two prepaid cards will be offered to those TDI owners. The first one will be f 1319028;1446855330;pete_dushenski;500 and has no restrictions on where it can be used. The second, which may be valued between $500 and $750, will be limited to use at Volkswagen dealerships." << in which vw doesn't even try to 'fix' the problem that isn't and instead distributes cash to owners whose vehicles WILL BE WORTH MORE than the owners of post-scandal neutertronics 1319029;1446855349;pete_dushenski;weird. 1319030;1446855358;pete_dushenski;but still a big middle finger to regulators 1319031;1446855391;pete_dushenski;so no, vw won't be 'fixing' any old vehicles. you can take your carbon, nox, etc and huff it. 1319032;1446855464;mircea_popescu;this is obviousy to cover the cost of neutreting 1319033;1446855476;mircea_popescu;while trying to take advantage of the consumer's disinclination to use it 1319034;1446855518;mircea_popescu;but yeah, i imagine the regulotards are prolly livid. 1319035;1446855537;mircea_popescu;"what, drive a wedge between the people and the governmentoregulating fruiting body ? WE OWN THE PEOPLE1!11!" 1319036;1446855545;pete_dushenski;these prepaid cards will be used for organic groceries at whole foods 1319037;1446855558;mircea_popescu;bedside's the point. 1319038;1446855571;pete_dushenski;if my conception of the average american tdi owner is accurate 1319039;1446855582;pete_dushenski;*late-model tdi owner 1319040;1446855608;pete_dushenski;so much for pulling the plug on the us market altogether as per http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/01/in-which-volkswagen-takes-aim-at-the-insanity-of-statal-overbearing/ 1319041;1446855612;assbot;In which Volkswagen takes aim at the insanity of statal overbearing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcJNBH ) 1319042;1446855619;pete_dushenski;guess there was really no need 1319043;1446855634;pete_dushenski;why leave when you own the house ? 1319044;1446855648;pete_dushenski;the girl can leave. and take the kids too. 1319045;1446855741;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318501 << /me looks forward to taunting pantagruel into going all the way. 1319046;1446855741;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:26:00; mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the one 1319047;1446855766;mircea_popescu;you have no contribution in there. 1319048;1446855783;pete_dushenski;o ? 1319049;1446855795;pete_dushenski;seed shot, la fin ? 1319050;1446855803;mircea_popescu;no, but it's for the benefit of the mother. 1319051;1446855879;pete_dushenski;so the threat is only directed at the mother ? 1319052;1446855898;mircea_popescu;well you know, small kids. their relationship is to mom. 1319053;1446855953;pete_dushenski;to be sure, but then 'threaten their parents with holding their breath' is really 'threaten their mothers' 1319054;1446856000;mircea_popescu;well, just like in a movie : actor threatens the other actor AND the audience, but can't really hear the audience. 1319055;1446856016;pete_dushenski;and even still, i think panta's mom would get a kick out of seeing him pull it off 1319056;1446856045;*;pete_dushenski will have popcorn on hand, regardless 1319057;1446856078;pete_dushenski;speaking of which, how did it take movie theatres however many decades to figure out reserved seating ? 1319058;1446856102;pete_dushenski;there's ONE theatre in town with this : reserved seating, wine+beer, hot food, the works 1319059;1446856126;pete_dushenski;fantastic way to spend $20 (normal movie is $13) 1319060;1446856133;mircea_popescu;i've yet to see a full movie theatre. 1319061;1446856168;*;pete_dushenski has seen several times, unfortunately 1319062;1446856170;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2010/imaginarium/ << real pix, or how i fucked a girl in of 3k empty seats. 1319063;1446856171;assbot;Imaginarium on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LXaTua ) 1319064;1446856657;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318569 << this needs to be taught ? more gender equalities studies needed plox. boys have no such inability. 1319065;1446856657;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:40:43; mircea_popescu: which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need. 1319066;1446856874;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318577 << americans do this domestically too ! http://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-man-grows-inches-surgery/story?id=15776730 1319067;1446856874;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:45:17; ascii_field: there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance. 1319068;1446856877;assbot;New York Man 'Grows' Six Inches Through Surgery - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbhDfh ) 1319069;1446856904;pete_dushenski;"Surgeons break the leg bone in two and implant a state-of-the-art telescopic rod into the middle of the broken bones which then pulls the bone apart very slowly, about one millimeter a day. New bone grows around it and tissues like the muscle, the nerves, the arteries, and the skin, regenerate as well. At about $85,000, the procedure is expensive and the process lengthy. It takes at least three months to complete it 1319070;1446856904;pete_dushenski; it requires demanding and excruciating physical therapy." 1319071;1446857426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92802 @ 0.00054301 = 50.3924 BTC [+] {5} 1319072;1446857529;trinque;pete_dushenski: I see two things there: a deep, pervasive obedience in human beings and a total lack of sane input 1319073;1446857576;trinque;that he should be tall or short or have a flagpole in his ass was not and was never his idea 1319074;1446857604;pete_dushenski;and who can say that their ideas are their own ? 1319075;1446857623;trinque;for me, an open question, but surely approaches 0 1319076;1446857662;pete_dushenski;arguably, will/cock is what separates actors from audience 1319077;1446857682;pete_dushenski;audience has ideas too, but so what 1319078;1446857715;pete_dushenski;too busy eating popcorn and chirping to be on stage 1319079;1446857939;trinque;mhm, perhaps it is a not a question of whether moved, but by what 1319080;1446857943;trinque;them, other humans 1319081;1446857953;trinque;a man with will; that is the one harder to define 1319082;1446857967;trinque;one can say himself, but is he committing tautology? 1319083;1446857978;trinque;that's the open question 1319084;1446858042;pete_dushenski;'who is the first mover' 1319085;1446858084;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318830 << lel. somehow brings to mind teh who 'conference' racket. 1319086;1446858084;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 21:07:48; mircea_popescu: stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement. 1319087;1446858103;*;trinque goes to pick things up and put them down again, and to ponder this 1319088;1446858118;pete_dushenski;which 'conferences' are really conventions 1319089;1446858150;pete_dushenski;trinque: pick up spinoza sometime 1319090;1446858315;pete_dushenski;re: 'conpherences' : http://www.conventionbusinesstravel.com/events/growth2015.aspx << looks like i just missed one in my own backyard, featuring speakers that include, and i couldn't make this up, a magician. 1319091;1446858317;assbot;2015 Business Productivity & Growth Conference | Convention Business Travel ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbiJrn ) 1319092;1446859196;shinohai;http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20151103/NEWS11/151109846/101083 <<< Best title EVAH 1319093;1446859198;assbot;Baby's death today in Sandwich is under investigation - Breaking News Updates - capecodtimes.com - Hyannis, MA ... ( http://bit.ly/1LXiwR9 ) 1319094;1446859622;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71534 @ 0.00054435 = 38.9395 BTC [+] {4} 1319095;1446861017;mod6;asciilifeform & all, I've added one more change to V for the forthcoming version of 99998: People have been letting me know that if their system us using a version of perl less than 5.12 that it's been causing problems. So i've added a statement that requires a minimum of 5.12. 1319096;1446861025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20435 @ 0.00054455 = 11.1279 BTC [+] {2} 1319097;1446861053;mod6;in the process of testing that change as well as the change for the temporary gpg directory. 1319098;1446861074;*;mircea_popescu goes by, sees asscrack moving through the doorcrack. 1319099;1446861092;mircea_popescu;who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home. 1319100;1446861155;pete_dushenski;'need a reason to get out of the house' 1319101;1446861205;pete_dushenski;'need to find a fitness instructor worth banging while you're at work' 1319102;1446861213;shinohai;Does this one not require Graph::Easy ? 1319103;1446861267;mod6;This version will also have the change where Graph::Easy is not required unless you invoke v with the `g' or `graph' command 1319104;1446861457;*;pete_dushenski to dinner 1319105;1446862622;ben_vulpes;mod6: why does it fail with versions under 5.12? 1319106;1446862647;mod6;because the 'each' keyword isn't supported. 1319107;1446862661;*;ben_vulpes has just rediscovered that gpg doesn't handle filename wildcards gracefully or at all 1319108;1446862691;ben_vulpes;mod6: i see 1319109;1446862879;mircea_popescu;"In the world where the media postulates social media as an absolute requirement of the modern era-- the era where everything is fetishized-- no one is permitted to make the distinction between a value and the picture of a value, they are made equivalent, so daring to criticize Randi's baby pictures is made to sound like misogyny or misobaby. It's not. I love food but if you ask me to look at a picture of a food I wil 1319110;1446862879;mircea_popescu;l poison your toothpaste. Be careful: the point is not that a woman shouldn't post her baby pictures, the point is that the system cannot profit from her baby except as a photo, so that in order to get them to do it more-- to be online more-- the system teaches them to overvalue the photo; and this must necessarily be at the expense of the object itself. #porn." 1319111;1446862880;mircea_popescu;aww. 1319112;1446862959;*;asciilifeform finally home 1319113;1446862966;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: consider reading the src to gpg 1319114;1446862974;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: it is very interesting in all the wrong ways 1319115;1446863539;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << interesting sport - fake hanging 1319116;1446863540;assbot;Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kzS4nx ) 1319117;1446866321;deedbot-;[Trilema] How an economy functions ; how the pretense of an economy functions. - http://trilema.com/2015/how-an-economy-functions-how-the-pretense-of-an-economy-functions/ 1319118;1446866495;mod6;new code changes seem to be working good with manual testing; tested a bunch of different scenarios including if one does not have Graph::Easy installed, or if one has a version of perl less than 5.12. Working good there. all automated tests are passing. 1319119;1446866553;mod6;still on track to sign and release v99998 this weekend. 1319120;1446866562;asciilifeform;congrats mod6 1319121;1446866662;mod6;thanks asciilifeform. forgot to mention that the new tmp gnupg dir is working well also. 1319122;1446866690;mod6;The release email will outline the changes. 1319123;1446866745;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b3 1319124;1446867796;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31250 @ 0.00053174 = 16.6169 BTC [-] {2} 1319125;1446867977;danielpbarron;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318525 << Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. 24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it. 1319126;1446867977;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 19:31:11; mircea_popescu: that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc. 1319127;1446869114;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it... << In the end it reverses as the pigs become nearly indistinguishable from the humans, except fatter. ESR in that pic seemed to have bagged a descendant of "napoleon" 1319128;1446869240;BingoBoingo; who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home. << To bring grief to the Mayogendered with a demonstration of gender. Also squats build booty. 1319129;1446870968;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00053371 = 23.1096 BTC [+] {4} 1319130;1446871176;danielpbarron;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319117 >> What happened to the economy when Revlon went bankrupt ? << supposed to say 'myspace' in the 2nd column? 1319131;1446871176;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 03:18:41; deedbot-: [Trilema] How an economy functions ; how the pretense of an economy functions. - http://trilema.com/2015/how-an-economy-functions-how-the-pretense-of-an-economy-functions/ 1319132;1446871456;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron aty 1319133;1446871597;mircea_popescu;"I'm pretty sure that's Charlize Theron, not Scarlett Johansson." And I'm pretty sure they're the same person, and just because now she's Rachel Maddow doesn't mean she's serious. 1319134;1446871598;mircea_popescu;loller. 1319135;1446871606;mircea_popescu;who the fuck is rachel maddow 1319136;1446871647;mircea_popescu;but in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/df2fcf02fd786b354f2a5578d437180d/tumblr_mtjuu9NmgI1ssal8ko1_500.gif 1319137;1446871648;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjnB7q ) 1319138;1446871883;mircea_popescu;holy shit it's James Spader ! 1319139;1446872004;BingoBoingo;He's been getting a lot of work recently. 1319140;1446872054;mircea_popescu;as himself or as rachel ? 1319141;1446872191;BingoBoingo;Both. I think his big role this year was as a giant robot who gets killed by a purple dildo. 1319142;1446872263;mircea_popescu;sounds like a bump deal. 1319143;1446872469;BingoBoingo;Eh, it was one of those masked hero movies so if he didn't die and asked for too much money they could have replaced him. 1319144;1446872497;BingoBoingo;But he was the bad guy just as he is when he does drag as rachel. 1319145;1446874598;BingoBoingo;trinque: How was the up and down? 1319146;1446874661;trinque;pretty great; my tmux session now supports utf8 hieroglyphs 1319147;1446874685;trinque;oh working out, good as well 1319148;1446874690;BingoBoingo;cool 1319149;1446874730;trinque;plenty of eye candy over there; I did various machine press, curls, that weighted rowing machine 1319150;1446874748;trinque;focusing on the things I've neglected sitting at a keyboard too long 1319151;1446875208;BingoBoingo;AH 1319152;1446875553;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1319153;1446875559;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 381.3, vol: 40342.05981532 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 370.068, vol: 18665.95388 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 382.12, vol: 73731.05124534 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 11.9990794 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 401.23755, vol: 79982.66730000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 379.0, vol: 65.86842731 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 370.599, vol: 239.35691954 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1319154;1446875565;BingoBoingo;;;more 1319155;1446875566;gribble;388.072157846 1319156;1446876098;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1319015 << here's to wishing our newly made 'orange revolutionary' a speedy meeting with headzoff.com 1319157;1446876098;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 23:53:27; punkman: from el reg http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096&cpage=1#comment-237490 1319158;1446876183;asciilifeform;'Inasmuch as, you are one of the most influent persons in one of the most talented community (Hackers) in the world, I humbly ask you write about Iran and whats going on there. Please tell the world that Persian people are fight for freedom ....' 1319159;1446876335;trinque;"I’m armed and maintaining Condition Yellow." << bwahahahaha 1319160;1446876348;asciilifeform;'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? 1319161;1446876352;trinque;so much heavy breathing 1319162;1446876355;asciilifeform;is next condition 'brown' ? 1319163;1446876385;trinque;hopefully his mother is on call for the code brown with fresh undies. 1319164;1446876397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49490 @ 0.00053568 = 26.5108 BTC [+] {2} 1319165;1446876489;asciilifeform;'09. 1319166;1446876496;asciilifeform;where did this go, anyway. 1319167;1446876508;asciilifeform;same place as the hongkong attempt 6 mo. ago, presumably. 1319168;1446876928;asciilifeform;turned out that usg's cia and dept of s. only had so many bag lunches to pass out to idiots sitting and blocking streets 1319169;1446876937;asciilifeform;in hk or teheran or kiev, wherever 1319170;1446876951;asciilifeform;i can almost picture some underground phaktory cranking'em out. 1319171;1446876958;asciilifeform;for the next go-around. 1319172;1446877373;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00054168 = 7.8002 BTC [+] {2} 1319173;1446879096;mircea_popescu;i 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ? 1319174;1446879673;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaXYNJVAAA9Ogg.jpg 1319175;1446879673;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/20BQJO2 ) 1319176;1446880875;punkman;asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too 1319177;1446880876;assbot;Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kzS4nx ) 1319178;1446880951;punkman;oic now " this is the enactment and remambrance ceremony of the female kurdish student Leyla Qasım who was captured, tortured, tried and executed within 20 days in 1974." 1319179;1446881143;mircea_popescu;they gotta have something better than one she-kurd 40 years ago 1319180;1446881151;mircea_popescu;how about 40 kurdettes last year ? 1319181;1446881340;punkman;myeah 1319182;1446881360;punkman;http://vnhacker.blogspot.com/2015/11/tales-of-cryptographer.html 1319183;1446881361;assbot;thái: Tales of The Cryptographer ... ( http://bit.ly/1L2omNk ) 1319184;1446881548;mircea_popescu;"Keeping in mind that actual stalking has never been dealt with in any significant way ever, the desire of a few female writers to curb online anonymity wouldn't be enough to get an @ mention, except that this happens to coincide with what the media wants, and now we have the two vectors summing to form a public health crisis. "Cyberbullying is a huge problem!" Yes, but not because it is hurtful, HA! no one cares about 1319185;1446881549;mircea_popescu; your feelings-- but because criticism makes women want to be more private-- and the privacy of the women is bad. The women have to be online, they do most of the clicking and receive most of the clicks. Anonymous cyberbullying is a barrier to increasing consumption, it's gotta go." 1319186;1446881600;mircea_popescu;or how giving women money fucks up media for everyone. now they gotta cater to what women want, too, and since what women want is probably somethign stupid and without explosions in it, you get two anodyne fagboys to replace harrison ford, at 1/4 the pay each. 1319187;1446881743;punkman;I feel like I've read that one two dozen times 1319188;1446881753;punkman;!s cyberbullying is a barrier 1319189;1446881753;assbot;2 results for 'cyberbullying is a barrier' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cyberbullying+is+a+barrier 1319190;1446881867;mircea_popescu;i confess to being slightly obsessed. 1319191;1446881879;mircea_popescu;this entire anonimity bs never made any sense to me 1319192;1446881887;BingoBoingo;"STEM is soooooo last decade. FAG is the new science.Fatminism, Arts and Gender Studies will train a new generation of educated young womyn and allies to compete with the likes of Asia." 1319193;1446882253;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.00054168 = 9.0558 BTC [+] {2} 1319194;1446888973;BingoBoingo;https://sli.mg/k6ceiZ 1319195;1446888974;assbot;Image hosted on Sli.mg ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mhe1yU ) 1319196;1446889105;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/columns/joe-holleman/april-simpson-ktvi-part-ways-over-intern-dispute/article_75783efa-e82a-5d73-afdf-83db0d7397e6.html 1319197;1446891070;shinohai;;;later tell mod6 v99998 tests passed all boxes, tested the < 5.12 perl on all then installed proper. 1319198;1446891070;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1319199;1446895795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3696 @ 0.00054168 = 2.002 BTC [+] {2} 1319200;1446895856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31467 @ 0.00054442 = 17.1313 BTC [+] {2} 1319201;1446900004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8012 @ 0.00054616 = 4.3758 BTC [+] 1319202;1446900858;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36446 @ 0.00054533 = 19.8751 BTC [-] 1319203;1446907866;punkman;http://www.themarysue.com/zoe-quinn-new-book-and-film/ 1319204;1446907867;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1S6yqdG ) 1319205;1446907869;punkman;"The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe." 1319206;1446908910;shinohai;So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ? 1319207;1446910800;mircea_popescu;eh gtfo. you knew dumbass was angling for "celebrity" since day one 1319208;1446910811;mircea_popescu;us "feminism" = wannabe michael moore 1319209;1446910831;mircea_popescu;the fat fag sucked. these harpies ? really, 0 interest, what else is on ? 1319210;1446912083;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you've got mailz 1319211;1446912563;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319173 << nein 1319212;1446912563;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 06:51:36; mircea_popescu: i 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ? 1319213;1446912619;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319176 << when i ran into the linked film, i sorta assumed that something went wrong and at least one of the gallows birds really did hang properly. was very disappointed to learn that this was not so. 1319214;1446912619;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 07:21:15; punkman: asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too 1319215;1446912681;asciilifeform;i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ? 1319216;1446912708;asciilifeform;i'm also at least vaguely aware of at least one case where a prisoner arranged to be hanged on a theatrical stage, as part of a performance 1319217;1446912716;asciilifeform;(properly hanged, that is) 1319218;1446912776;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319215 <<< asking those burning questions others dare not ponder .... 1319219;1446912776;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 16:11:21; asciilifeform: i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ? 1319220;1446912791;asciilifeform;(so many puzzles. e.g., is a 'long drop' hanging typically also filmed with a doctored noose? or a dummy ?) 1319221;1446912977;asciilifeform;'Fareweel, ye dungeons dark and strong, / Fareweel, Fareweel tae thee. / MacPherson's time will nae be lang / On yonder gallows tree. / Sae rantin'ly, sae wantonly / Sae dauntin'ly gaed he / He played a sprig and danced a jig / Below the gallows tree.' (tm) (r) 1319222;1446912994;punkman;http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4396077.html 1319223;1446912995;assbot;Actor playing Judas dies in hanging scene - Chicago Sun-Times | HighBeam Research ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzqSRB ) 1319224;1446913025;asciilifeform;'The character Judas hangs himself in the musical, but the harness protects the actor. Investigators were trying to determine why the man didn't attach it.' << good timez 1319225;1446913113;punkman;I guess the easy way to do it might be a harness around your armpits 1319226;1446913124;asciilifeform;how did they go about, i might ask, 'determining why the man did not attach it' ? with a seance ? 1319227;1446913149;asciilifeform;'ouija' board ? 1319228;1446913369;punkman;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133896/Actor-accidentally-hangs-stage-enacting-death-Judas-Iscariot-Easter-play.html 1319229;1446913370;assbot;Actor accidentally hangs himself on stage while re-enacting death of Judas Iscariot in Easter play | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzrJ4u ) 1319230;1446913374;punkman;another judas :P 1319231;1446913419;punkman;"But the safety vest the actor was wearing under is robe is believed to have risen up across his neck, strangling him. " 1319232;1446913528;punkman;I guess this happens every other year http://www.salon.com/2000/05/08/judas/ 1319233;1446913529;assbot;Actor playing Judas accidentally hangs himself - Salon.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szs2MJ ) 1319234;1446913978;punkman;in other news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OYfioDIzrc 1319235;1446913979;assbot;Force Flops? Chewbacca arrested in Ukraine after campaigning for Darth Vader - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szt4Z4 ) 1319236;1446916139;shinohai;http://thestir.cafemom.com/politics_views/145144/teen_haunted_house_hanging_accident <<< thanks for making me waste the afternoonover tea and morbid subjects asciilifeform 1319237;1446916141;assbot;Teen Haunted House Hanging Accident Was Mistaken for Scary Prop | The Stir ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvDbjf ) 1319238;1446917714;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319205 << what in the name of beelzebub is a 'crash override' ? 1319239;1446917714;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 14:51:09; punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe." 1319240;1446917723;asciilifeform;is this a reference to the old AUTOVON 'flash override' button ? 1319241;1446917740;asciilifeform;and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ? 1319242;1446917761;*;asciilifeform gives up trying to unravel this mystery, goes back to actual wurk 1319243;1446917879;asciilifeform;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autovon#/media/File:66a3aDTMFpad.jpg << the button. upper right hand of photo. 1319244;1446917880;assbot;Autovon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvFRNJ ) 1319245;1446917997;punkman;https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy "Some code has an error? Fuck it." 1319246;1446917998;assbot;ajalt/fuckitpy · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvG3fV ) 1319247;1446918003;punkman;also known as php 1319248;1446918040;asciilifeform;punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2014#678174 1319249;1446918040;assbot;Logged on 16-05-2014 17:52:50; benkay: fuckit.py 1319250;1446918139;asciilifeform;it is difficult not to be reminded, reading this, of the legends re: icbm cables with differing pin counts being pounded in with a sledge (from ru literature, obviously pertaining to sov rockets, but i'd be surprised if similar legends did not circulate in usa) 1319251;1446918177;punkman;asciilifeform: was answer to what is crash override, but also just remembers it was a nickname of someone in Hackers movie 1319252;1446918187;asciilifeform;was, wasn't it. 1319253;1446918189;asciilifeform;l0l 1319254;1446918241;punkman;"Crash Override Network is a pro bono support group for victims of large scale online abuse, including revenge porn and doxing." 1319255;1446918289;punkman;and new Star Wars lead is a girl, and she'll probably get bullied at some point 1319256;1446918323;punkman;Disney knows how much stupid shit all the fangirls will buy 1319257;1446918332;asciilifeform;http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2015-09/1441799497_43.jpg << them cables 1319258;1446918333;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvGDKK ) 1319259;1446918353;asciilifeform;(from a very spiffy piece, http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/74282-vzglyad-iznutri-na-proizvodstvo-raketnyh-dvigateley.html concerning motor factory) 1319260;1446918354;assbot;Взгляд изнутри на производство ракетных двигателей » E-news.su ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvGEOB ) 1319261;1446919367;punkman;"It's just you and your least favorite child. Come to Arbys. Feed him emulsified beef reformed w meat glue. Watch him slowly die. Arbys." 1319262;1446919524;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50500 @ 0.00054624 = 27.5851 BTC [+] {3} 1319263;1446920587;PeterL;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316031 << The first thing I thought of when I saw this thing was the chairs the people use in the movie "WALL-E" 1319264;1446920587;assbot;Logged on 04-11-2015 18:49:20; pete_dushenski: http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too 1319265;1446920654;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319259 < women in tech 1319266;1446920654;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 17:45:53; asciilifeform: (from a very spiffy piece, http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/74282-vzglyad-iznutri-na-proizvodstvo-raketnyh-dvigateley.html concerning motor factory) 1319267;1446921055;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i see! 1319268;1446921293;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23931 @ 0.00054684 = 13.0864 BTC [+] {3} 1319269;1446921558;mircea_popescu; with a seance ? << they just ask the other people. 1319270;1446921633;mircea_popescu;<asciilifeform> and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ? << because people keep talking about it as if it were important. and so what the hell's the difference. 1319271;1446923123;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: spiffy commentary on ye olde broadcast ! 1319272;1446923134;mircea_popescu;:p 1319273;1446923144;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes ytou ever found that tlp where he says "x derp is just there because the seat existed" ? 1319274;1446923148;mircea_popescu;now I fucking need it too. 1319275;1446923347;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: here ya go http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299109 1319276;1446923347;assbot;Logged on 15-10-2015 00:26:51; mircea_popescu: "If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover 1319277;1446923353;mircea_popescu;ty! 1319278;1446923356;asciilifeform;np. 1319279;1446923361;mircea_popescu;kept googling for biedermeyer 1319280;1446923395;*;asciilifeform throbs memory biceps 1319281;1446923455;mircea_popescu;updated a little that real/fake article from yest. 1319282;1446923470;mircea_popescu;funny how this happens, on perhaps 1% of articles, i actually want to add more stuff in the morning. 1319283;1446923481;*;asciilifeform also does this. 1319284;1446923487;*;asciilifeform brb, playing with pet 1319285;1446923812;deedbot-;[Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/ 1319286;1446925437;mircea_popescu;"There should be no controversy: a guy should never tell a girl he's going to rape her, online or not, kidding or not." umm,... and whence doth that should come from ? what nonsense is this, anyway ? 1319287;1446925438;mircea_popescu;it's not that there should be no controversy THIS way. There should be, and really there is not, any controversy the other way. ~Some guys~ SHOULD tell a girl they'll rape her. If they don't, how are you to stand out ? And "girls" in the general must be convinced in their bones that either they put out with their choice or get collectively raped by everyone. This part seems to work okay, anyway. 1319288;1446925509;mircea_popescu;" there should be no instinct at all to defend such a jerk, and yet----- and yet that is precisely the instinct many people get." << check it out, usg wants monopoly on orcdom now. IT can defend the outcasts so they can terrorize the cattle, i'm not "allowed to" because hey, there can be only one and it can't be me, amirite ? 1319289;1446925518;mircea_popescu;usg gun git raped in the ass. 1319290;1446926503;ben_vulpes;... 1319291;1446926514;ben_vulpes;some girls wanna hear it! 1319292;1446926539;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319280 << /me swoons 1319293;1446926539;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 19:09:55; *: asciilifeform throbs memory biceps 1319294;1446926600;ben_vulpes;(but you know they're weird and perverted etc) 1319295;1446926975;mircea_popescu;and by "Some girls" we mean "the vast majority of human females of reproductive age", but hey, they don't read random derpy us website nobody reads so they don't count\ 1319296;1446926988;mircea_popescu;har har tell me more about some film boxxy made. 1319297;1446927466;asciilifeform;l0l how're things in the entomology corps ! 1319298;1446927513;asciilifeform;(hey it beats scatology - who am i to talk! i'm writhing in the guts of winblowz kernel presently...) 1319299;1446927582;asciilifeform;in other 'news', 1319300;1446927595;asciilifeform;happy holiday! http://littlecom.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Aurora1917Meschaninov10.jpg 1319301;1446927596;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiMr4c ) 1319302;1446927646;asciilifeform;'Что тебе снится, крейсер «Аврора», В час, когда утро встаёт над Невой?' (tm) (r) 1319303;1446927679;asciilifeform;http://www.norma40.ru/chd/aur.htm << for musicoarchaeologists only. 1319304;1446927680;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiMz3N ) 1319305;1446929021;mod6;so apparently the 'each' keyword is pretty much to be avoided like the plague. 1319306;1446929070;mod6;i've re-written the traversals of the map for ante & desc and my new changes passed the automated tests. 1319307;1446929101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00054533 = 6.0532 BTC [-] {2} 1319308;1446929106;mod6;it's only 2 more lines of code really. so it's not a bad solution, and this affords me not to have to require perl 5.12 or greater. 1319309;1446929125;mircea_popescu;good idea. 1319310;1446929129;mod6;i've got one more spot in the code to change out 'each' 1319311;1446929139;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b55 1319312;1446929172;mod6;mircea_popescu: yeah, perl v5.005 or whatever has been in use since 98, lot of systems have from that version forward. would be good to support older versions. 1319313;1446929191;mod6;and get away from 'each'. 1319314;1446929217;mod6;anyway, will update later when I get a chance. thx! 1319315;1446929479;mod6;ok, last place of 'each' removed -- only one more line of code required there. 1319316;1446929483;mod6;running automated tests... 1319317;1446929877;mod6;ok everything passed. I'm glad I wrote all of those. makes regression testing on core functionality like this so much easier. 1319318;1446929935;ben_vulpes;TESTS 1319319;1446929937;mod6;shinohai: thanks for doing all that testing on V. looks like I might need another round yet before tomorrow. 1319320;1446929942;ben_vulpes;WRITE MOAR TESTS 1319321;1446929951;mod6;I'll try to chat you up later tonight. 1319322;1446929956;mod6;ben_vulpes: indeed. 1319323;1446929994;ben_vulpes;"my only job around here is to scowl loudly at bad commits and demand more tests" - $bzprtnr 1319324;1446930017;asciilifeform;'test can prove the presence of bugs, but never their absence' -- vladimir ilich knuthikstra 1319325;1446930215;ben_vulpes;i think you may have even cited that before 1319326;1446930220;asciilifeform;in unrelated nyooz, that xv6 thing actually builds without any massage whatsoever, and... runs 1319327;1446930242;asciilifeform;remarkably slowly, even for an emulated thing 1319328;1446930245;asciilifeform;no cache. 1319329;1446930262;asciilifeform;but passes the author's testatron (included) 1319330;1446930292;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: they have their place. i find it convenient to have tests when rewriting large swaths of a thing either i've written: with the behavior codified, i don't have to manually poke at the thing to ensure that it still behaves the way it did before i tore it apart and put it back together. 1319331;1446930302;asciilifeform;aha 1319332;1446930309;*;asciilifeform not a principled opponent of testatrons 1319333;1446930322;asciilifeform;but it is not a substitute for knowing wtf you're doing 1319334;1446930331;asciilifeform;see also mircea_popescu's article on 'exam takers' 1319335;1446930346;ben_vulpes;yes yes 1319336;1446930394;asciilifeform;for anybody else who is considering an evening of playing with xv6, some notes: 1319337;1446930414;asciilifeform;1) you don't have to use the serial console. the thing includes basic text term and kbd handler. 1319338;1446930451;asciilifeform;2) if you have 64-bit qemu because you're an old osdev junkie, qemu-system-x86_64 -smp 2 -m 512 -hda xv6.img -hdb fs.img instead of the makefile's runner. 1319339;1446930476;asciilifeform;3) mighty slow, because the thing actually prods the disk every time you file 1319340;1446930477;mircea_popescu;define slow. 1319341;1446930521;asciilifeform;hundreds of msec to fopen() 1319342;1446930534;asciilifeform;sorta like msdos on a 8086 1319343;1446930567;mircea_popescu;aha 1319344;1446930573;asciilifeform;i haven't tried to plant the thing on iron, as of yet. nor do i know whether the author has. 1319345;1446930578;mircea_popescu;so basically like ipad with ios 9? 1319346;1446930581;asciilifeform;leaving this for other folks here. 1319347;1446930592;*;asciilifeform does not have this machine, cannot comment 1319348;1446930604;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes ^^ ? 1319349;1446930646;asciilifeform;moar like win95 with 8MB of ram 1319350;1446930653;asciilifeform;but why ruin appetites. 1319351;1446930774;asciilifeform;but yes, it is a unix, in about 200kB of src. 1319352;1446930787;asciilifeform;and it can also 'compile' to... book 1319353;1446930794;asciilifeform;(contains pagebreak comments) 1319354;1446930809;asciilifeform;(iirc minix also did) 1319355;1446930833;mircea_popescu;ha. 1319356;1446930844;mircea_popescu;200kb is just about a book 1319357;1446930860;asciilifeform;the principal difference between this and actual sys6 is that a) written in ansi, rather than k&r c b) ab initio, for x86 b) ab initio for multiple processors, which actually simplifies threading & locking 1319358;1446930964;asciilifeform;and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there. 1319359;1446930966;ben_vulpes;how does the ipud figure into this? 1319360;1446930981;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: i think he meant it as an example of slow box ? 1319361;1446931003;ben_vulpes;more like iphone 4s with ios 9 1319362;1446931008;asciilifeform;prolly in the sense of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=300 1319363;1446931010;assbot;Loper OS » Going Nowhere Really Fast, or How Computers Only Come in Two Speeds. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OVhuca ) 1319364;1446931248;BingoBoingo; So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ? << Remember that series of films where she went from a spy to a public figure holding fucking glowsticks on a movie poster? 1319365;1446931353;deedbot-;[Trilema] The Minuscule Crab of Doom and the Sympathetic Spool of Drool - an endlessly complex machine to shred your dreams to pixie dust! - http://trilema.com/2015/the-minuscule-crab-of-doom-and-the-sympathetic-spool-of-drool-an-endlessly-complex-machine-to-shred-your-dreams-to-pixie-dust/ 1319366;1446931358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19271 @ 0.00054693 = 10.5399 BTC [+] {2} 1319367;1446931711;ben_vulpes;http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves... 1319368;1446931712;assbot;No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qb878w ) 1319369;1446931724;asciilifeform;eh not starving yet. 1319370;1446931732;asciilifeform;might have to work at a kitten recycling plant tho 1319371;1446931742;asciilifeform;survivable. 1319372;1446931810;ben_vulpes;https://twitter.com/NWikihow/status/654660352706121729 1319373;1446931831;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: what, by the way do you mean by "web work"? 1319374;1446931842;asciilifeform;where 1319375;1446931846;ben_vulpes;anything touching the request/response cycle? apis etc? 1319376;1446931874;asciilifeform;roughly, anywhere asm is never a thing. 1319377;1446931879;ben_vulpes;our conversation the other night. "wot suggests i..." 1319378;1446931881;asciilifeform;ah 1319379;1446931983;asciilifeform;oh and that pic is pure win. 1319380;1446932010;asciilifeform;http://m.wikihow.com/Be-a-Communist << source, linked in earlier 1319381;1446932011;assbot;How to Be a Communist (with Pictures) - wikiHow ... ( http://bit.ly/1S7fCuS ) 1319382;1446932056;asciilifeform;'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons 1319383;1446932131;asciilifeform;this is rather like reading an article 'how to become a nazi' and therein reading that you gotta gas ~yourself~ with zyklon 1319384;1446933313;thestringpuller;asciilifeform ain't starvin! 1319385;1446933325;thestringpuller;he probably shops at whole foods 1319386;1446933373;asciilifeform;partial foods. 1319387;1446933493;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00054533 = 11.3429 BTC [-] {2} 1319388;1446933578;BingoBoingo;!b 2 1319389;1446933579;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3E76YJA.txt ) 1319390;1446933753;ben_vulpes;so my father managed a gentleman who'd moved from the soviet block many years ago. the man walks into my fathers office one day, asks for some privacy to talk about american things. "in odessa, we put children out to nap. cold air, is good for little lungs! anyways," hands my father a letter, "what is this 'child protective services?" 1319391;1446933766;ben_vulpes;"oh, they'll take your children away if you don't conform to us norms." 1319392;1446933780;ben_vulpes;"child was completely wrapped! not a big deal!" 1319393;1446933792;ben_vulpes;"you don't understand. they. will. take. your. children." 1319394;1446933819;asciilifeform;wrapped ? 1319395;1446933821;ben_vulpes;"this is worse than russia! even kgb would not take children...my wife will never go along..." 1319396;1446933843;ben_vulpes;wrapped up, bundled, swaddled, generally speaking insulated from the cold. 1319397;1446933845;asciilifeform;ah 1319398;1446933858;asciilifeform;clearly fella doesn't read ru fishwraps or even blogz 1319399;1446933864;ben_vulpes;"when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia." 1319400;1446933877;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: this was a decade or three ago. 1319401;1446933879;asciilifeform;this kind of usgistic rape has its advocates in ru, and they are - correctly - beaten on the streets or wherever found 1319402;1446933882;asciilifeform;ah 1319403;1446933918;asciilifeform;one of the points on which ru is the last bastion of sanity in the white man's world 1319404;1446933955;ben_vulpes;the west may have been brought under dominion of the feds with marriage laws, but the whole country is dominated by CPS. 1319405;1446933970;asciilifeform;... and the divorce-theft courts, etc. 1319406;1446933983;asciilifeform;don't forget the 'child support'/alimony apparatus 1319407;1446934019;ben_vulpes;eh, only of the untermenschen. 1319408;1446934033;asciilifeform;mno 1319409;1446934037;ben_vulpes;and truly stupid (sort of) monied. 1319410;1446934044;asciilifeform;i personally knew a fella who wasn't the least bit 'unter' who got rolled up. 1319411;1446934048;asciilifeform;RIP. 1319412;1446934086;ben_vulpes;more of a tool of wives and mothers than the state and snitches though, isn't it? 1319413;1446934086;asciilifeform;didja know that an engineer's spermatozoa cost 5x moar to raise to adulthood than a slum bunny's ? 1319414;1446934089;asciilifeform;at least according to usg. 1319415;1446934126;ben_vulpes;"manner to which she has become accustomed" 1319416;1446934143;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: it's usg that garnishes the wages, and then cuts the cheques (minus a vig) 1319417;1446934164;asciilifeform;so it is quite unlike a normal civil judgement in usa 1319418;1446934172;ben_vulpes;if your wages are subject to garnishment you *are* unter. 1319419;1446934184;*;asciilifeform adjusts arse broomstick 1319420;1446934194;*;asciilifeform trims jets 1319421;1446934201;ben_vulpes;yes, shielding assets is hard and not for everyone. 1319422;1446934218;asciilifeform;as far as i'm concerned, it is something that is done by martians, on mars. 1319423;1446934294;asciilifeform;phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent 1319424;1446934304;asciilifeform;pony up, or jail. 1319425;1446934379;asciilifeform;incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill 1319426;1446934389;asciilifeform;his 'wages' couldn't be garnished, either, or so he thought. 1319427;1446934492;asciilifeform;('collectivized', gulaged, drunk invalids took over, burned it down.) 1319428;1446934594;asciilifeform;since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will have to play him 1319429;1446934604;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: aha! 1319430;1446934608;asciilifeform;... if everybody were a mongol warrior, no one could be dekulakized ! 1319431;1446934630;ben_vulpes;i am actually pondering approaches to collectivize the thing ahead of the horde. 1319432;1446934631;asciilifeform;(except that there'd be nothing for these virile fellas to plunder. they'd be stuck fucking own cows) 1319433;1446934646;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: aha that's precisely that he did 1319434;1446934675;ben_vulpes;who became the new 'owners'? 1319435;1446934678;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: hired invalids from the war to run the mill, to 'collectivize ahead of the herd' 1319436;1446934689;asciilifeform;they drunkenly burned it, and he answered for it. 1319437;1446934703;asciilifeform;(or so goes the tale) 1319438;1446934743;ben_vulpes;why'd he have to hire invalids? 1319439;1446934768;asciilifeform;didn't ~have~ to 1319440;1446934781;asciilifeform;but thought it would stave off the inevitable transfer to the 'deserving' 1319441;1446934800;asciilifeform;complicated. 1319442;1446934804;asciilifeform;but end result - same. 1319443;1446934826;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299464 1319444;1446934826;assbot;Logged on 15-10-2015 15:54:26; mircea_popescu: tru to life too. "he tried to make the trains wear out the rail!" 1319445;1446934911;ben_vulpes;sounds a lot like "don't work with people outside of your wot" to me. 1319446;1446934943;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: gotta understand, you can't appease mice, rats, lice. 1319447;1446934954;asciilifeform;they want it all. 1319448;1446934965;asciilifeform;~especially~ whatever it is you haven't given up yet. 1319449;1446935096;asciilifeform;not aiming to drive ben_vulpes to the bottle, so i'll not elaborate examples. but i think it is clear. 1319450;1446935620;BingoBoingo;Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan 1319451;1446935683;*;ben_vulpes tempted to drink already. 1319452;1446935745;BingoBoingo;From the derp mines http://dpaste.com/1WVATZ4.txt 1319453;1446935746;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlv6uL ) 1319454;1446935764;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: at the risk of strengthening ben_vulpes's drink, must point out, that the disease is not likely to take this particular form 1319455;1446935814;asciilifeform;usg's present direction is the one where the shop keeper is made to answer for various usgistic misfortunes suffered by his staff (e.g., 'obamacare') 1319456;1446935824;BingoBoingo;Aha 1319457;1446935994;BingoBoingo;So what you are saying is ben_vulpes is hitting the scotch tonight 1319458;1446936054;asciilifeform;i'd recommend the bong, to better 's-a-incadrat-in-colectiv' 1319459;1446936059;BingoBoingo;As answering these misfortunes might soon lower his future booze to "Country Club" vodka and Thunderbird 1319460;1446936072;asciilifeform;(from mircea_popescu's http://trilema.com/cum-s-a-incadrat-in-colectiv ) 1319461;1446936073;assbot;Cum s-a incadrat in colectiv ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlvJEE ) 1319462;1446936098;asciilifeform;вписатся в коллектив to those of us in east orcland 1319463;1446936244;asciilifeform;in other lulz, 1319464;1446936245;asciilifeform;http://fokus.dn.se/edward-snowden-english 1319465;1446936245;assbot;Edward Snowden interview with Dagens Nyheter - DN Fokus ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlw7mF ) 1319466;1446936268;BingoBoingo;I dunno that bong can quite relieve existential dread in the same way drink does 1319467;1446936510;asciilifeform;'In 2007, FBI agents carried out so-called morning raids at the homes of people who worked or had worked at the NSA, and had tried to blow the whistle on a mass surveillance program they felt had gotten out of control. One man was dragged out of the shower in his home, a gun to his head, in front of his family. Another man opened his door and soon had the house full of black-clad agents in Kevlar vests searching his home until 1319468;1446936510;asciilifeform; late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who was investigated and pros 1319469;1446936511;asciilifeform;ecuted, after trying to talk to his superiors about the mass surveillance, was himself.' 1319470;1446936515;asciilifeform;^ lulzy and, iirc, factual. 1319471;1446936723;BingoBoingo;interesting 1319472;1446936790;ben_vulpes;bong amplifies existential dread 1319473;1446936844;asciilifeform;'A woman at the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives had her house raided by the FBI at six oclock in the morning, because shed asked questions about the program.' 1319474;1446936969;asciilifeform;this is part of why it is difficult to take mr s seriously as anything other than a disinfo plant 1319475;1446936989;asciilifeform;an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release 1319476;1446937036;asciilifeform;and wouldn't remain a u.s. subject 1319477;1446937047;asciilifeform;(or what, they won't process his renunciation in moscow ?) 1319478;1446937064;asciilifeform;not even a very good fake 1319479;1446937077;asciilifeform;(a good fake would fake a renunciation so we wouldn't be asking this question) 1319480;1446937130;asciilifeform;phakt: a ru citizen is not extraditable, his removal would be an act of war. 1319481;1446937156;asciilifeform;actual sovereign coutriez, they sorta exist ! 1319482;1446937291;BingoBoingo;Well, to renounce he'd have to go to the embassy or consulate where he'd be subject to arrest 1319483;1446937397;asciilifeform;can't renounce by mail ? 1319484;1446937419;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Silver at or under $9/oz before December 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1224/silver-at-or-under-9-oz-before-december-2015/#b1 1319485;1446937424;asciilifeform;and technically you can rid yourself of u.s. citizenship in a few other ways 1319486;1446937433;asciilifeform;(join a foreign army, take office, etc) 1319487;1446937485;asciilifeform;blackshirts will still take shots at him given half a chance, but renouncing would be a gesture in line with the overall theme of the play 1319488;1446937493;asciilifeform;the absence is conspicuous. 1319489;1446937521;asciilifeform;fact is, mr s (or, if you prefer, the character he is playing) has emphatically ~not~ 'set the bozo bit' on usg. 1319490;1446937539;BingoBoingo;can't renounce by mail, and the other ways still require US Dept State to recognize the invalidating act and bill Mr. S 1319491;1446937541;asciilifeform;believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now. 1319492;1446937592;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2015/09/us-increases-fee-to-relinquish-citizenship-and-residency/ 1319493;1446937593;assbot;US Increases Fee to Relinquish Citizenship and Residency | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXjEFd ) 1319494;1446937621;BingoBoingo;So yes, US requires "certifying" you did a citizenship disqualifying act 1319495;1446937645;asciilifeform;it isn't as if the hit squad gives a damn whether 'citizen' or not 1319496;1446937650;asciilifeform;but the ~symbol~. 1319497;1446937724;asciilifeform;what are we to make of the derping re: 'returning to usa for fair trial' ? 1319498;1446937730;BingoBoingo;Of course, but getting the symbol means delivering self to the hit squad 1319499;1446937736;asciilifeform;no 1319500;1446937759;asciilifeform;symbol would be, e.g., putting on a ru uniform and joining army 1319501;1446937788;asciilifeform;and on microphone to say 'i hope i get to be the one to glass ft meade' 1319502;1446937792;BingoBoingo;Ah 1319503;1446937875;asciilifeform;and very much ~not~, e.g., screwing around with 'aclu' and whatever else was described in that rag. 1319504;1446937977;BingoBoingo;Like Assange's refusal to enter shipping container as "diplomatic package" 1319505;1446937996;asciilifeform;eh, how do you know where the container's going. 1319506;1446938003;asciilifeform;enter, come out legs first. 1319507;1446938037;BingoBoingo;Well, he'd have to hope for ecuador 1319508;1446938053;mircea_popescu;lol increased yet again ? 1319509;1446938082;mircea_popescu;incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? 1319510;1446938086;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: cia prolly pre-dug a hole in ec for him 1319511;1446938104;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: (or hero's welcome, as you please) 1319512;1446938117;BingoBoingo;What other hero's welcome is there? 1319513;1446938139;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the kind where the mask comes off 1319514;1446938200;BingoBoingo;Oh apparently torrent infrastructure Hearnia'd brb, writing up 1319515;1446938232;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319358 << wait, isn't this a 100% solution to problems ? there is no rule you must address disk as "disk", it can just be ram. 1319516;1446938232;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 21:16:04; asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there. 1319517;1446938252;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: box has actual disk for a reason ? 1319518;1446938265;mircea_popescu;fuck that. this works with ram only. 1319519;1446938274;asciilifeform;a la my buildroot ? 1319520;1446938276;mircea_popescu;yes. 1319521;1446938284;mircea_popescu;exctly a la your buildroot. 1319522;1446938290;jurov;bash flushed 1319523;1446938413;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319367 << you don't understand how the revolution work. 1319524;1446938413;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 21:28:31; ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves... 1319525;1446938414;mircea_popescu;s. 1319526;1446938483;asciilifeform;the way it works is, 1319527;1446938497;asciilifeform;'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic) 1319528;1446938599;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319382 << i lolled. 1319529;1446938599;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 21:34:16; asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons 1319530;1446938607;mircea_popescu;who are these schmucks ? 1319531;1446938612;asciilifeform;wikipedos 1319532;1446938614;asciilifeform;or whoever. 1319533;1446938825;mircea_popescu;they're like.... annoying 50s housefrau. "do whatever you will but don't go naked!111" 1319534;1446938835;mircea_popescu;yeah right. aren't you due at some perm salon or something ? 1319535;1446939276;asciilifeform;approx., 1319536;1446939292;asciilifeform;'no need have i of mercy, / no need have i of laurels, / but let me have a rifle, / and let me have a horse, / and if i chance to perish, / let my red platoonmates, / let my red platoonmates,/ make'em pay, of course.' 1319537;1446939323;mircea_popescu;aha. 1319538;1446939425;asciilifeform;s/pay'em back/make'em pay 1319539;1446939452;asciilifeform;or rather the reverse 1319540;1446939534;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319399 << or anywhere else. 1319541;1446939534;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:04:24; ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia." 1319542;1446939551;mircea_popescu;in general, if you aim to raise children it's a bad idea to pick the nation of idiots. 1319543;1446939659;ben_vulpes;oh, now we like to compete in crowded markets? 1319544;1446939716;mircea_popescu;no ? 1319545;1446939729;mircea_popescu;children don't compete. that's the thing with childhood, 1319546;1446939737;mircea_popescu;and why communism is the ideology of the retarded. 1319547;1446939897;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319415 << the obvious solution is obvious. 1319548;1446939897;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:08:46; ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed" 1319549;1446939914;asciilifeform;let's have the coordinates of the shangri-la without idiots 1319550;1446939945;mircea_popescu;no, that's not it. "you want kids, you live with the niggers. that's where the kids factory is. i commute to mine, you commute to yours." 1319551;1446939964;mircea_popescu;that way the manner she's accustomed will be correctly calibrated. 1319552;1446939983;mircea_popescu;it's unhealthy to raise kids in YOUR means anyway. especially daughters, but in general. 1319553;1446939986;mircea_popescu;let them earn their own. 1319554;1446940007;asciilifeform;imperial ru army 1319555;1446940015;asciilifeform;(but they didn't do daughters) 1319556;1446940020;deedbot-;[Qntra] Torrent Infrastructure Hindered as Demonii/YIFY/YTS Fall - http://qntra.net/2015/11/torrent-infrastructure-hindered-as-demoniiyifyyts-fall/ 1319557;1446940042;mircea_popescu;it's the manner in the civilised world (aka "eastern europe" in some sources). i suppose i should fish for this. 1319558;1446940071;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/old-texts-on-traditional-marriage-vampirism-and-gayety/ 1319559;1446940072;assbot;Old texts on traditional marriage ; vampirism and gayety. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhKgnE ) 1319560;1446940101;mircea_popescu;kyra kyralina does hold some valuable etnofolkloric information. 1319561;1446940119;mircea_popescu;"Let me tell you a little of "traditional marriage". The traditional marriage of the Greekxiii works like so : the married woman, and her children, keep house in the castle. The married man, with his apprentices, keeps a workshop somewhere in the workshop quarters, outside the walls. He has an older woman there who cooks, because the apprentices are entitled to be fed by the master. The man visits the woman occasionall 1319562;1446940120;mircea_popescu;y, to beat her, to fuck her, to talk to her. Depending on how close they are, and marriages go through phases anyway. Some husbands may sleep with the woman, some may sleep at the workshop, some may alternate. And marriages go through phases anyway. The woman may not visit her husband. The kids do not generally get to, except boys of sufficient age, if the father even likes them at all. Which isn't that much of a given 1319563;1446940120;mircea_popescu;. Girls in no case do." of interest here. 1319564;1446940149;asciilifeform;hey my colleagues almost run this way 1319565;1446940159;mircea_popescu;this is how the world works, africans and their huts notwithstanding. 1319566;1446940160;asciilifeform;i don't think anybody cancelled this. 1319567;1446940161;mircea_popescu;how the fuck else. 1319568;1446940170;asciilifeform;(minus the old woman) 1319569;1446940184;mircea_popescu;from the chuka to the somali pirates, everyone. 1319570;1446940411;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: btw it explains the unpopularity of 'telecommute' scheme in usa 1319571;1446940422;mircea_popescu;aha. 1319572;1446940425;asciilifeform;nobody pays working schmucks enough to keep two huts 1319573;1446940431;asciilifeform;and they'd have to 1319574;1446940436;mircea_popescu;as tlp wel lpoints out, it's not that "work" invades the home. is that you need the blinker for existential support. 1319575;1446940446;mircea_popescu;or as george points out, "you take tv out of this relationship, it is just murder" 1319576;1446940468;mircea_popescu;but hey, "mancave", right ? 1319577;1446940470;asciilifeform;or don't marry faceless broad 1319578;1446940485;mircea_popescu;why the fuck isn't it "cuntpit" i wanna know. 1319579;1446940497;asciilifeform;they don't build pits, only colonize ? 1319580;1446940507;asciilifeform;like cuckoo ? 1319581;1446940680;mircea_popescu;eh no they don't. 1319582;1446940768;asciilifeform;anyway the whole pit/cave system never quite made sense to me 1319583;1446940867;asciilifeform;woman is right here in the 'cave' with me. like tank crew, silently doing the right thing. 1319584;1446940936;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? 1319585;1446940936;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 23:47:00; deedbot-: [Qntra] Torrent Infrastructure Hindered as Demonii/YIFY/YTS Fall - http://qntra.net/2015/11/torrent-infrastructure-hindered-as-demoniiyifyyts-fall/ 1319586;1446941062;asciilifeform;'Update: The YTS.to domain was just signed over to the MPAA.' 1319587;1446941104;asciilifeform;https://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-can-access-popcorntime-services-vpn-court-rules-151104 << from same rag 1319588;1446941105;assbot;MPAA Can Access Popcorn Time Services & VPN, Court Rules - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhLP51 ) 1319589;1446941117;asciilifeform;'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.' 1319590;1446941455;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform does she have children ? 1319591;1446941484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144600 @ 0.00054691 = 79.0832 BTC [+] {4} 1319592;1446941562;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319425 << hey, i had one of those, too! 1319593;1446941562;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill 1319594;1446941591;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319423 << aha. lulziest thing in the world. 1319595;1446941591;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:11:34; asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent 1319596;1446941606;mircea_popescu;considering the jailing costs more than the alimony. 1319597;1446941650;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319590 << we vote 'no', recall 1319598;1446941650;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:10:55; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ? 1319599;1446941662;mircea_popescu;so in what sense is this woman a woman ? 1319600;1446941667;mircea_popescu;not in the sense herein contemplated. 1319601;1446941898;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works. 1319602;1446941898;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan 1319603;1446941908;mircea_popescu;which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE. 1319604;1446941916;mircea_popescu;which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats. 1319605;1446941974;BingoBoingo; ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record 1319606;1446942073;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319468 << factual indeed. 1319607;1446942073;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who 1319608;1446942085;mircea_popescu;but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth. 1319609;1446942156;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319475 << no, you do not want them dead. 1319610;1446942156;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release 1319611;1446942168;mircea_popescu;greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn. 1319612;1446942172;mircea_popescu;for YEARS. 1319613;1446942277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65594 @ 0.00054527 = 35.7664 BTC [-] {4} 1319614;1446942277;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease. 1319615;1446942277;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 23:05:41; asciilifeform: believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now. 1319616;1446942291;mircea_popescu;heck, most soviet kids believed in "better soviet" 1319617;1446942338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64406 @ 0.00054511 = 35.1084 BTC [-] {3} 1319618;1446942428;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 1319619;1446942430;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 385.8, Best ask: 386.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 385.81, 24 hour volume: 34655.48879914, 24 hour low: 371.32, 24 hour high: 392.23, 24 hour vwap: None 1319620;1446942582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103900 @ 0.000543 = 56.4177 BTC [-] {4} 1319621;1446942824;trinque;mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far. 1319622;1446942914;kakobrekla;currently i make log dumps on request 1319623;1446942956;trinque;also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs 1319624;1446943138;BingoBoingo;Retard Strong: https://i.sli.mg/ugyHG7.png 1319625;1446943139;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3ATAb ) 1319626;1446943423;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla plox to have a dump, ima vdiff it with my local logs, pack it and hash/sign 1319627;1446943467;mircea_popescu;trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed 1319628;1446943561;kakobrekla;one fat txt file ? 1319629;1446943776;mircea_popescu;works./ 1319630;1446943810;BingoBoingo;http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510646458-amd-faces-suit-over-alleged-misrepresentation-of-new-cpu 1319631;1446943812;assbot;AMD faces suit over alleged misrepresentation of new CPU | Legal News Line ... ( http://bit.ly/20DwY8I ) 1319632;1446943842;mircea_popescu;"amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu" 1319633;1446943924;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00054249 = 14.1319 BTC [-] 1319634;1446944107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00054249 = 12.9384 BTC [-] 1319635;1446944257;asciilifeform;intel hyperthreading lawsuit when. 1319636;1446944305;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 << this will be a reasonably-mechanized thing with gossip 1319637;1446944305;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs 1319638;1446944321;asciilifeform;('reasonably mechanized', note, does not mean 'fully automatic') 1319639;1446944370;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319604 << usually i think 'drown like rat' 1319640;1446944370;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats. 1319641;1446944384;mircea_popescu;rats swim. 1319642;1446944389;asciilifeform;ah yes. 1319643;1446944539;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319611 << who wants to watch this porn? wouldn't this be a bit like turning'em into sausages ? 1319644;1446944539;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:22:48; mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn. 1319645;1446944545;asciilifeform;who wants to eat these sausages ? 1319646;1446944563;mircea_popescu;here's a secret : most porn produced today is not actually made for anyone to watch. 1319647;1446944567;mircea_popescu;sort-of like books published. 1319648;1446944579;asciilifeform;and we need moar of this for something? 1319649;1446944592;*;mircea_popescu has genuinely seen this, "you got a cam, something ? i feel kinda weird going at it without anything" 1319650;1446944626;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform we don't need it, they do 1319651;1446944651;asciilifeform;how's this work? picture a public beheading with... a studio audience ?! 1319652;1446944678;trinque;this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig... 1319653;1446944715;trinque;some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter 1319654;1446944730;asciilifeform;imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ? 1319655;1446944737;asciilifeform;as in, an actually sentient one 1319656;1446944764;trinque;I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date 1319657;1446944788;trinque;no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public" 1319658;1446944799;asciilifeform;this might be an advanced matter of mircea_popescutronics that i am grossly unequipped to reason about. 1319659;1446944835;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened". 1319660;1446944869;mircea_popescu;the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?" 1319661;1446944897;mircea_popescu;that's why you don't kill the us president so the vp can take over.\ 1319662;1446944906;mircea_popescu;you kidnap it and transexual operation. 1319663;1446944937;mircea_popescu;"this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!" 1319664;1446944962;asciilifeform;wake me up when. 1319665;1446944966;mircea_popescu;who the fuck cares about a guy. certainly not the other guys just like him. 1319666;1446945020;mircea_popescu;trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling. 1319667;1446945073;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings. 1319668;1446945121;mircea_popescu;violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative. 1319669;1446945150;mircea_popescu;trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all. 1319670;1446945327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113119 @ 0.00054854 = 62.0503 BTC [+] {7} 1319671;1446945754;mircea_popescu;anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do". 1319672;1446945811;mircea_popescu;also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses. 1319673;1446946107;mircea_popescu;kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point. 1319674;1446946608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00055024 = 17.9928 BTC [+] {4} 1319675;1446946675;mircea_popescu;and from tlp : 1319676;1446946675;mircea_popescu;Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important 1319677;1446946676;mircea_popescu;and less accessible-- except through Us Weekly. 1319678;1446946676;mircea_popescu;But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi 1319679;1446946679;mircea_popescu;th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!" 1319680;1446946683;mircea_popescu;ha-HA! 1319681;1446948194;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.0005507 = 24.6163 BTC [+] {2} 1319682;1446948613;BingoBoingo;!up archStanton 1319683;1446950146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40597 @ 0.00054973 = 22.3174 BTC [-] {2} 1319684;1446950207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5153 @ 0.00055137 = 2.8412 BTC [+] 1319685;1446951360;deedbot-;[Qntra] Theymos Threatens Coinbase's Social Media Privileges - http://qntra.net/2015/11/theymos-threatens-coinbases-social-media-privileges/ 1319686;1446953562;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319668 << successful extermination is more educative still 1319687;1446953562;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative. 1319688;1446953587;asciilifeform;in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion' 1319689;1446953867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87439 @ 0.00054485 = 47.6411 BTC [-] {4} 1319690;1446954918;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc) 1319691;1446954918;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs 1319692;1446954974;trinque;yep, I think asciilifeform has it, that it'd be something to build around gossipd 1319693;1446954992;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn 1319694;1446954992;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ? 1319695;1446955023;asciilifeform;damnatio ad bestias (tm) (r) 1319696;1446955222;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319584 << you don't, but it was a nice tree 1319697;1446955222;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 00:02:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? 1319698;1446955297;punkman;enjoyed the quality while it lasted, if only they did more old movies 1319699;1446955324;asciilifeform;warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing. 1319700;1446955386;asciilifeform;(yet the umpteenth reason why gossipd is a weapon of the apocalypse) 1319701;1446955389;punkman;well I don't know anyone that scans books or rips movies 1319702;1446955395;asciilifeform;sure you do 1319703;1446955400;*;asciilifeform scans bookz 1319704;1446955453;*;asciilifeform would scan yet moar bookz if he had with whom to trade 1319705;1446955460;asciilifeform;see, warez traditionally works as a trade thing 1319706;1446955563;punkman;and how do you trade bookz with a lot of people? you go to bookzz dot org 1319707;1446955572;asciilifeform;mno. 1319708;1446955593;punkman;(actually a thing if anyone's not familiar with it) 1319709;1446955597;asciilifeform;that's 'silk road' thinking. 1319710;1446955953;asciilifeform;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-last-untouchable-in-europe-878705.html << vintage historic curio. 1319711;1446955954;assbot;The last untouchable in Europe | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXzOOX ) 1319712;1446956304;punkman;other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez 1319713;1446956897;punkman;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/fashion/gofundme-gone-wild.html 1319714;1446956900;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm3iWY ) 1319715;1446957026;asciilifeform;'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: My life the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food 1319716;1446957026;asciilifeform; and clothing.' 1319717;1446957031;asciilifeform;win. 1319718;1446957074;asciilifeform;y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers 1319719;1446957082;asciilifeform;but it turns out, there's a ready list ! 1319720;1446957089;punkman;many 1319721;1446957096;asciilifeform;'never would be missed!' (tm) (r) (mikado) 1319722;1446957476;punkman;http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this." 1319723;1446957477;assbot;Amazon and eBay 'liable' if they ignore VAT fraud - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXACn0 ) 1319724;1446957791;BingoBoingo;"I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance 1319725;1446957832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00054637 = 19.5054 BTC [+] {2} 1319726;1446958198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.0005421 = 31.7942 BTC [-] {3} 1319727;1446958510;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/style/transgender-restroom-all-gender.html << moar lulz 1319728;1446958513;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5RZi ) 1319729;1446958636;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax 1319730;1446958636;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this." 1319731;1446958650;asciilifeform;(i.e. reporting any user who nets, iirc, > 600 usd/yr) 1319732;1446958869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68541 @ 0.00054747 = 37.5241 BTC [+] {2} 1319733;1446959057;punkman;there were a couple local ebay-clones here that passed all their data to the taxman. "oh you sold 6 old phones this year? and what did you not have time to incorporate and register for VAT?" 1319734;1446959174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48603 @ 0.00055032 = 26.7472 BTC [+] {3} 1319735;1446959784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00055136 = 27.954 BTC [+] {6} 1319736;1446959870;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319724 << there is a kind of primordial fog that especially dim people believe to still exist and matter 1319737;1446959870;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 04:43:11; BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance 1319738;1446959882;asciilifeform;'nothing is written down and no one will ever search' 1319739;1446959887;BingoBoingo;Probably why pariahs 1319740;1446959903;asciilifeform;nah 1319741;1446959915;asciilifeform;actual pariadom selects for intelligence and will 1319742;1446959939;asciilifeform;or at least one of the two 1319743;1446960002;BingoBoingo;Not always, pariah dog is a thing 1319744;1446960019;BingoBoingo;because even more useless than food dog 1319745;1446960030;asciilifeform;food dog is eminently useful 1319746;1446960056;BingoBoingo;Indeed 1319747;1446960126;BingoBoingo;As food. 1319748;1446960138;BingoBoingo;Pariah dog generally too wormy for that. 1319749;1446960144;*;ben_vulpes went to see one employee's exhibition fight, walked away staggering under a load of psychoactive gifts from other employees 1319750;1446960147;asciilifeform;what the hell is a pariah dog 1319751;1446960174;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: the sort of mutt common when actual dogs breed unrestrained and in poverty 1319752;1446960179;BingoBoingo;;;google pariah dog 1319753;1446960180;gribble;Pariah dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Indian pariah dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pariah dogs: 9 ancient and wild dog breeds - Mother Nature Network: 1319754;1446960195;asciilifeform;ah the small ones 1319755;1446960203;BingoBoingo;Generally small yes. 1319756;1446960207;*;asciilifeform saw these in the wee hours in timisoara 1319757;1446960236;BingoBoingo;Once a friend responded to a "Phree to good home" add and ended up recieving feral pariah like rat/dog hybrid. 1319758;1446960276;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: get'em into chess-boxing 1319759;1446960291;BingoBoingo;Exist in varying populations anywhere dogs have been stray enough generations 1319760;1446960297;asciilifeform;http://worldchessboxing.com 1319761;1446960298;assbot;World Chessboxing Association ... ( http://bit.ly/1XX1VT9 ) 1319762;1446960368;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo ^ 1319763;1446960383;asciilifeform;somehow it isn't as i imagined it 1319764;1446960412;asciilifeform;(did not picture boxing ring with chess board, but rather a normal-looking chess setting but with boxing) 1319765;1446960559;BingoBoingo;neato 1319766;1446961248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00054847 = 4.9637 BTC [-] 1319767;1446961614;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37750 @ 0.0005466 = 20.6342 BTC [-] {3} 1319768;1446962285;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63237 @ 0.00054679 = 34.5774 BTC [+] {2} 1319769;1446962773;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62008 @ 0.00054964 = 34.0821 BTC [+] {2} 1319770;1446963627;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00054152 = 27.7258 BTC [-] {4} 1319771;1446964359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.000541 = 12.6865 BTC [-] {2} 1319772;1446965139;ben_vulpes;http://i.imgur.com/KGHI8TM.jpg 1319773;1446965139;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1iKEE6V ) 1319774;1446965525;punkman;heh 1319775;1446965535;punkman;"Thus, we come to our first node.js tip: one effective way that we get high performance out of node.js is to avoid doing computation in node.js." 1319776;1446965764;BingoBoingo;What else is there to do? 1319777;1446966067;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00054014 = 18.1487 BTC [-] {3} 1319778;1446966533;ben_vulpes;jets by any other name would smell as rank 1319779;1446966798;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319688 << not so. 1319780;1446966798;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 03:33:07; asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion' 1319781;1446966816;mircea_popescu;one dead slave does not persuade a harem nearly as much as the red marks on a live slave's butt. 1319782;1446966853;mircea_popescu;in one interpretation : death is a public good ; the red marks are still owned by the owner. 1319783;1446966941;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319690 << the idea i was going to use is, "all the content of my lines is in the logs as presented". 1319784;1446966941;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 03:55:18; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc) 1319785;1446966951;mircea_popescu;its not 100%, but a decent proxy 1319786;1446967040;*;ben_vulpes has been bothering kakobrekla for logdumps lately 1319787;1446967062;ben_vulpes;sql format is rather handy, i must say. 1319788;1446967115;ben_vulpes;i would rather not parse them back into something rdbms-friendly. 1319789;1446967134;ben_vulpes;perhaps a logcsv if we cannot have logsqldump? 1319790;1446967187;ben_vulpes;unixtime,handle,message ? 1319791;1446967221;*;ben_vulpes not terrifically vested in this, but would like to apply extant tooling to next step with minimal hassle. 1319792;1446967348;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00053936 = 8.0904 BTC [-] {3} 1319793;1446967370;mircea_popescu;in other news, it's time to untangle our tangled lives! http://41.media.tumblr.com/f98c9bf54e7be9827896ae20b26ad214/tumblr_n4x1xvORNz1s3eztgo1_1280.jpg 1319794;1446967371;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1kCpTUN ) 1319795;1446967653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00053936 = 14.5358 BTC [-] {2} 1319796;1446968196;ben_vulpes;that hand is facing the wrong direction 1319797;1446968256;mircea_popescu;The crime writer Mark Ebner, whose mailboxes have been increasingly filled with monetary requests, has a theory about it all. I think online begging has become the new economy. 1319798;1446968259;mircea_popescu;mmmkay. 1319799;1446968263;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28195 @ 0.00053879 = 15.1912 BTC [-] {3} 1319800;1446968433;mircea_popescu;for the record, "malarial side of a river" is rank nonsense. 1319801;1446968446;mircea_popescu;what's next, impregnatory side of the cunt ? 1319802;1446968447;BingoBoingo;Coinbase http://gomerblog.com/2015/02/orthopedic-surgeon-2/ 1319803;1446968451;assbot;Breaking News: Orthopedic Surgeon Completes 1000th Surgery with EBL of 50cc | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1ki64mm ) 1319804;1446968661;BingoBoingo;Malarial side of the river is a thing on a lot of river. One side has bluffs into the water, the other side is swamp 1319805;1446968812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00054206 = 10.2991 BTC [+] {2} 1319806;1446969239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.0005428 = 10.4218 BTC [+] {2} 1319807;1446970093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35669 @ 0.00054222 = 19.3404 BTC [-] 1319808;1446970459;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67000 @ 0.00054221 = 36.3281 BTC [-] {2} 1319809;1446971191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12115 @ 0.00054221 = 6.5689 BTC [-] {2} 1319810;1446971862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50941 @ 0.00054658 = 27.8433 BTC [+] {3} 1319811;1446972289;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6582 @ 0.00055044 = 3.623 BTC [+] {2} 1319812;1446972411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5989 @ 0.0005508 = 3.2987 BTC [+] 1319813;1446972594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.0005508 = 11.8697 BTC [+] 1319814;1446972777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125192 @ 0.00055289 = 69.2174 BTC [+] {6} 1319815;1446974119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65750 @ 0.00055427 = 36.4433 BTC [+] {3} 1319816;1446975425;deedbot-;[Qntra] Mizzou and Yale Experience Acute Unrest - http://qntra.net/2015/11/mizzou-and-yale-experience-acute-unrest/ 1319817;1446975704;BingoBoingo;"Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what Vice describes as militariza 1319818;1446975704;BingoBoingo;tion" 1319819;1446975705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00055098 = 16.7498 BTC [-] {2} 1319820;1446976684;adlai;BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/about/ staff section needs an update 1319821;1446976685;assbot;About | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMjTr ) 1319822;1446976710;BingoBoingo;ty adlai I'll get that cleaned up this week 1319823;1446976863;adlai;also, qntra guidelines should specify what happens to shares credited to articles signed by keys unknown to mpex. http://mpex.ws/faq.html#5 suggests they should go into limbo, it should probably be clarified that they default to coinbr (what if a competitor appears?) 1319824;1446976863;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMsWX ) 1319825;1446976869;BingoBoingo;adlai: Revised http://qntra.net/about/ 1319826;1446976870;assbot;About | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMjTr ) 1319827;1446976887;adlai;that was a quick week! 1319828;1446976897;BingoBoingo;adlai: They default to Jurov's tender love and care 1319829;1446976905;BingoBoingo;Twas a quick week. 1319830;1446977414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16476 @ 0.00055196 = 9.0941 BTC [+] 1319831;1446977779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00055161 = 26.8634 BTC [-] {2} 1319832;1446978816;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00055098 = 15.2621 BTC [-] 1319833;1446978917;adlai;BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/0NNWT4R.txt 1319834;1446978919;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJn54u ) 1319835;1446978993;adlai;actually wait a sec, needs another archive 1319836;1446979094;adlai;fixed: http://dpaste.com/0F4Y7WM.txt 1319837;1446979095;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJnmo9 ) 1319838;1446979411;BingoBoingo;adlai: Signature? 1319839;1446979452;adlai;--armor --sign --encrypt, gpg should mention that after the decryption 1319840;1446979531;BingoBoingo;Ah, yeah missed that frame in emacs 1319841;1446979785;deedbot-;[Qntra] ProtonMail Confirms Ongoing Profitability of Negotiations (For The Terrorists) - http://qntra.net/2015/11/protonmail-confirms-ongoing-profitability-of-negotiations-for-the-terrorists/ 1319842;1446979790;BingoBoingo;ty adlai 1319843;1446979933;adlai;yw, shoutout to the humble tipster, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-11-2015#1318275 1319844;1446979933;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 12:15:31; punkman: http://www.zdnet.com/article/protonmail-coughs-up-6000-to-stop-ddos-attack-ddos-carries-on-anyway/ 1319845;1446979986;BingoBoingo;cool 1319846;1446980056;adlai;ah shit, this is embarassing. the bc.i snapshot is too old. https://archive.is/KiV77 should do the trick. 1319847;1446980057;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1FxHcZzW3z9NRSUnQ9Pcp58ddYaSuN1T2y ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJoGHG ) 1319848;1446980159;BingoBoingo;ty 1319849;1446980829;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055098 = 3.8018 BTC [-] 1319850;1446981012;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60750 @ 0.00055482 = 33.7053 BTC [+] {2} 1319851;1446981866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00055483 = 26.2989 BTC [+] {2} 1319852;1446982598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6680 @ 0.00055098 = 3.6805 BTC [-] {2} 1319853;1446982749;punkman;adlai: cool, I thought someone would scoop that up 1319854;1446982773;punkman;you don't really have to archive.is teh blockchain though 1319855;1446982823;adlai;bc.i public notes are plaintext droppings, not even deedbotted 1319856;1446982834;punkman;ah yeah just noticed those 1319857;1446984062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91347 @ 0.00055511 = 50.7076 BTC [+] {5} 1319858;1446985953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62119 @ 0.00055577 = 34.5239 BTC [+] {4} 1319859;1446986000;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-HJT8_esM&feature=youtu.be 1319860;1446986001;assbot;#Equality - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Msolrx ) 1319861;1446986380;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00055599 = 15.8457 BTC [+] {3} 1319862;1446988088;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101787 @ 0.00055116 = 56.1009 BTC [-] {5} 1319863;1446988576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190795 @ 0.00055912 = 106.6773 BTC [+] {8} 1319864;1446988580;fluffypony;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ry7lt/amir_taaki_interview_hes_talking_about_how_he_got/cwsfuen 1319865;1446988581;assbot;AliBongo88 comments on Amir Taaki interview, he's talking about how he got into Bitcoin, and singing a song in the end ... ( http://bit.ly/1MEWShV ) 1319866;1446988759;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00056124 = 26.6028 BTC [+] 1319867;1446989723;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo oh! 1319868;1446989749;mircea_popescu;that's pretty nutty, that sort of geography should insure against malaria. 1319869;1446990318;mircea_popescu;With that the Christakis family became the target for outraged students and faculty members for violating their "safe space" with students who are alleged to be residents of Stillman College recorded on videos being circulated asking the member of the National Academy of Sciences "Who the fuck hired you?" (archived). 1319870;1446990327;mircea_popescu;lmao. wanna bet they're actually "syrian refugees" ? 1319871;1446990434;mircea_popescu;"Protests related to a racially integrated fraternity who allegedly after their party hit capacity closed their doors to everyone but white women have reportedly been subsumed and absorbed by the Sillman College outrage" << spoeaking of which, i finally found the one fucking sane club in b-a. and you will know a sane club by this sign, than when you leave towards 4am womenz in tow, after having spent the night in the v 1319872;1446990434;mircea_popescu;ip section, there's a teeming mass of dorks in tshirts having been actively denied entrance this whole time. 1319873;1446990450;mircea_popescu;because "fuck you, buy some clothes, find a woman, buy her some shoes, come back. idiots." 1319874;1446990527;mircea_popescu;"a cohort of black athletes of color." lol ? 1319875;1446990594;mircea_popescu;anyway, the fact that the orc horde is devouring the ACTUAL liberal elite... seriously, christakis ? 1319876;1446990597;mircea_popescu;go team nigger. 1319877;1446990611;mircea_popescu;at this rate the country will be ungovernable before obama's term is up, won't even need elections. 1319878;1446990662;mircea_popescu;The full list: 1319879;1446990662;mircea_popescu;I. We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1950 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned S 1319880;1446990662;mircea_popescu;tudent 1950 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators. 1319881;1446990670;mircea_popescu;ahahaha fucking epic, check out the great leap forward! 1319882;1446990687;mircea_popescu;someone blame mao for it! please. it can't be that at certain stages in the evolution/decay of the horde, THIS happens. 1319883;1446990701;mircea_popescu;just like crawling 2yo sticks everything in mouth, including any turds. 1319884;1446991017;mircea_popescu; also, qntra guidelines should specify << so far jurov's been acting as a broker for the people interested. 1319885;1446991048;mircea_popescu;too much specification is a bad thing, and in any case specification as indicated by outsiders is beyond fucking dumb. 1319886;1446991068;mircea_popescu;seriously, what must be going on in your head for you to come in here and start with the shoulds ? are you actually stupid or something ? 1319887;1446991074;mircea_popescu;!rated adlai 1319888;1446991074;assbot;You have not rated adlai. 1319889;1446991104;mircea_popescu;!rate adlai -1 As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation. 1319890;1446991104;assbot;Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/aa69a198c8a4975d 1319891;1446991127;mircea_popescu;!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.adlai.-1:33ec73a51e064039b96a71e2906145c836ee84279bbd9a1c5b222cae40bc7898 1319892;1446991127;assbot;Successfully added a rating of -1 for adlai with note: As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation. 1319893;1446991287;adlai;!v assbot:adlai.unrate.mircea_popescu:39d4a6adf8e6b69ff58a1063ba27a908605878ddca2d0e0248c76e5b756eb487 1319894;1446991287;assbot;Successfully unrated mircea_popescu 1319895;1446991365;*;adlai shrugs 1319896;1446991376;adlai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1254376 << so far, it doesn't! 1319897;1446991376;assbot;Logged on 28-08-2015 13:17:25; cazalla: anyway first decimation, now adlai, but how does a neg from mp preclude anyone from remaining in the channel? 1319898;1446991413;mircea_popescu;just get lost, go do something useful with your life. this pointedly isn't it. 1319899;1446991423;adlai;kill me. 1319900;1446991430;mircea_popescu;da fuck i care about your stupid ass lmao. 1319901;1446991432;adlai;or /ignore 1319902;1446991437;mircea_popescu;talk to your dad, you're his failure. 1319903;1446991496;adlai;talk to yours. 1319904;1446991687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79736 @ 0.00054989 = 43.846 BTC [-] {3} 1319905;1446992376;adlai;while field-testing $bezzleCorp-supplied equipment, sergeant adlai asked an unfamiliar civilian, not wearing $bezzleCorp.colors, who showed up one day whether he also belonged to them. 1319906;1446992405;adlai;he said, "nah, any guy from $bezzleCorp you see, i'm the thorn in his ass" 1319907;1446992441;adlai;turns out this guy's full-time job is to be the ass thorn for such corps, on behalf of the military, to ensure it doesn't get too badly bezzled 1319908;1446992569;adlai;of course story ends badly, our hundreds-page report detailing the flashy new crap's crappiness went ignored as top brass signed the line that's dotted 1319909;1446992611;adlai;bezzle gonna bezz. don't hate the thorn, hate the ass. something like that. 1319910;1446992812;punkman;did israeli mil invest in mpex yet? 1319911;1446993273;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35084 @ 0.00055095 = 19.3295 BTC [+] 1319912;1446994066;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.00054912 = 16.7207 BTC [-] 1319913;1446995225;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00055095 = 23.4705 BTC [+] 1319914;1446996201;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77188 @ 0.00054912 = 42.3855 BTC [-] 1319915;1446996750;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46772 @ 0.0005491 = 25.6825 BTC [-] {2} 1319916;1446997116;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73500 @ 0.00055095 = 40.4948 BTC [+] 1319917;1446997299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00055342 = 31.3236 BTC [+] {2} 1319918;1446998214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00054836 = 39.9206 BTC [-] {2} 1319919;1446999068;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00055136 = 5.3482 BTC [+] {2} 1319920;1446999312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38250 @ 0.00054823 = 20.9698 BTC [-] {2} 1319921;1446999495;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00054819 = 15.7605 BTC [-] 1319922;1446999561;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOKRRVW4AAAt2B.jpg 1319923;1446999562;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJUnjY ) 1319924;1447000410;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28601 @ 0.00054796 = 15.6722 BTC [-] {2} 1319925;1447000898;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57945 @ 0.00055245 = 32.0117 BTC [+] {4} 1319926;1447001016;mircea_popescu;the more i think about it, the more it seems obvious in retrospect that obama ii was a sort of libtards' own kamakura moment. 1319927;1447001068;mircea_popescu;the nigglets are furious at the dismal quality of plunder, have been postponing hopes at the cost of increased hoped-fors. by now they're not just willing to but actually proceeding to beheading the niggers. 1319928;1447001102;mircea_popescu;hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even. 1319929;1447001119;mircea_popescu;if this entire line's correct, there's about 50-50 odds for black concentration camps before the decade's out. 1319930;1447001223;mircea_popescu;pro tip : by the time you start hearing about "african arrogance", you've missed the diamond train. 1319931;1447001264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00054671 = 7.9273 BTC [-] {2} 1319932;1447001375;asciilifeform;i think we have these already 1319933;1447001462;mircea_popescu;o ? 1319934;1447001707;mircea_popescu;(for the innocent, nigger = a particular sort of demagogue, characteristic to the fall of the us empire. like all demagogoues, the corpse of a once-great realm is his ; like all demagogues he attempts to whip the underclass into hysteria in the hope of somehow exchanging it for value later on ; his minor specificity is that he uses hallucinated "social issues" as frothing agents, usually to do with skin tone, less comm 1319935;1447001707;mircea_popescu;only gender. nigglet = diminutive thereof, a two bit player in niggerdom.) 1319936;1447001784;asciilifeform;i meant, the camps. atm they only hold adult males tho 1319937;1447001824;mircea_popescu;and to some degree discriminate. 1319938;1447001835;mircea_popescu;but yeah, obviously. there was a ghetto before the ghetto in berlin, too. 1319939;1447002057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.04885713 = 1.026 BTC [-] {2} 1319940;1447002399;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319817 << the dump where i went to school is, or at least was at the time, thought to be ~the~ 'nsa uni' 1319941;1447002399;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 09:41:44; BingoBoingo: "Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what 1319942;1447002439;asciilifeform;at one point there were even seekrit penthouses in various uni bldgs, where the lift wouldn't go 1319943;1447002454;asciilifeform;or so the legend went. 1319944;1447002500;mircea_popescu;i don't really follow the appeal of this tho. so you get a nsa job, what's the value ? i mean, top quant uni, top high street lawyers uni, i can see, the idea is "go here maybe you get a golden ticket - make a lot of money" 1319945;1447002526;mircea_popescu;nobody makes a lot of money working for fucking nsa, it's worse than civil service for chrissakles, you'll end up married to a "social worker" and she'll pull more than your weight on the single room mortgage. 1319946;1447002535;asciilifeform;this might be in the logz 1319947;1447002543;mircea_popescu;is unemployment THAT bad that the proles have actually given up on anything, will take the meal ticket ? 1319948;1447002554;asciilifeform;the appeal is two-pronged 1319949;1447002562;mircea_popescu;i mean i get it, it's not 5%, but it's not the 30%ish that'd be required for this nigerianess ? 1319950;1447002585;asciilifeform;one is that a tour of duty in the dungeons is good for a few 100k in a mega-zaibatsu (e.g., 'raytheon') later 1319951;1447002596;mircea_popescu;except it isn't ? 1319952;1447002614;asciilifeform;the other prong is that 'black' work has a distinct upside of 'i don't have to write on my cv that i played 'doom' for five years' 1319953;1447002632;mircea_popescu;but this is meal ticket stuff. 1319954;1447002639;asciilifeform;and perhaps the third prong is the 'masonic' aspect of serving hitler directly 1319955;1447002646;mircea_popescu;how is it directly ?! 1319956;1447002654;mircea_popescu;couldn't be less directly. 1319957;1447002667;asciilifeform;why did folks join ss ? 1319958;1447002674;mircea_popescu;a "secret service" whose name is in the press ? seriously ? 1319959;1447002685;asciilifeform;schutzstaffel was also in its press.. 1319960;1447002699;mircea_popescu;but that is "swat" not nsa. 1319961;1447002709;mircea_popescu;and yeah, i get why carl force went into dea. 1319962;1447002721;asciilifeform;nsa is 'swat' for skinny programmer types 1319963;1447002728;mircea_popescu;so then not swat. 1319964;1447002730;asciilifeform;or so presents itself. 1319965;1447002747;mircea_popescu;except this isn't how it works. "nsa is tits for pig" well ? 1319966;1447002768;mircea_popescu;understand, at the statistical level we're discussing, the delusions of the scum don't matter. 1319967;1447002771;mircea_popescu;the flesh knows. 1319968;1447002787;asciilifeform;i thought the question was specifically re: the delusions of the scum 1319969;1447002794;asciilifeform;as in, how recruitment is done 1319970;1447002804;mircea_popescu;i suppose this is how it's packaged/sold by media, not how people actually think 1319971;1447002825;mircea_popescu;but i am pretty blown away that they really think this is a sane approach. either unemployment/hunger/despair is a lot higher than i thought 1319972;1447002830;mircea_popescu;or they're doing the math wrong. 1319973;1447002832;asciilifeform;how people think, i can also say. given that i actually tried to sign up some years ago. 1319974;1447002842;asciilifeform;they think 'ooh a job opening, i can pay rentz' 1319975;1447002859;mircea_popescu;nuts. 1319976;1447002941;asciilifeform;nsa is also the only (afaik) shop ~outside of the threadbare academia tournamentmarket~ that hires b. of s. in maths straight out of school 1319977;1447002950;asciilifeform;for a feed-a-family salary 1319978;1447002956;mircea_popescu;o wait, speaking of diamond trains : 1319979;1447002957;mircea_popescu;Kastner moved to Israel after the war, becoming a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and Industry in 1952. In 1953 he was accused of having been a Nazi collaborator in a pamphlet self-published by Malchiel Gruenwald, a freelance writer. The allegation stemmed from his relationship with Eichmann and another SS officer, Kurt Becher, and from his having given positive character references after the war for Becher and two 1319980;1447002958;mircea_popescu; other SS officers, thus allowing Becher to escape prosecution for war crimes. The Israeli government sued Gruenwald for libel on Kastner's behalf, resulting in a trial that lasted 18 months, and a ruling in 1955 that Kastner had, in the words of Judge Benjamin Halevy, "sold his soul to the devil". By saving the Jews on the Kastner train, while failing to warn others that their "resettlement" was in fact deportation to 1319981;1447002959;mircea_popescu; the gas chambers, Kastner had sacrificed the mass of Jewry for a chosen few, the judge said. The verdict triggered the fall of the Israeli Cabinet. 1319982;1447002970;mircea_popescu;i guess the diamond train got cancelled. nobody's gonna bother with it this time. 1319983;1447002995;mircea_popescu;malchiel moore ftw, who knew. 1319984;1447002999;asciilifeform;the train usually referred to as 'diamon' was, iirc, schindler's 1319985;1447003007;asciilifeform;*diamond 1319986;1447003010;mircea_popescu;this is the guy that did the eichman deal. 1319987;1447003017;mircea_popescu;~2k deported to switzerland iirc. 1319988;1447003073;mircea_popescu;(incidentally, this guy was born in cluj.) 1319989;1447003102;mircea_popescu;aka קלויזנבורג 1319990;1447003643;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43762 @ 0.00054671 = 23.9251 BTC [-] {2} 1319991;1447003887;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38350 @ 0.00054561 = 20.9241 BTC [-] 1319992;1447004046;mod6;Today is the one year anneversary of the Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignty. Happy Independence Day! 1319993;1447004078;mod6;*anniversary too :] 1319994;1447004216;mircea_popescu;wow, the day after the soviets ? srsly ? 1319995;1447004236;mod6;Seems so. 1319996;1447004236;mircea_popescu;but yeah, happy tmsr day! 1319997;1447004276;mircea_popescu;!up stefek99 1319998;1447004513;kakobrekla;lulzy on so many levels http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/scottish-man-indicted-for-twitter-based-stock-fraud/ 1319999;1447004514;assbot;DOJ indicts man who blasted false stock info on Twitter then traded on it | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Ky9D ) 1320000;1447004545;kakobrekla;>prosecutors allege that Craig's false tweet-storms caused $1.6 million in losses to shareholders. 1320001;1447004552;kakobrekla;>but SEC believes suspect made just $100. 1320002;1447004590;kakobrekla;just a charade 1320003;1447004680;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54916 @ 0.00054804 = 30.0962 BTC [+] {4} 1320004;1447004680;mircea_popescu;pays the rentz. 1320005;1447004769;mircea_popescu;;;google "Be content to bind them by laws of trade. You have always done it. And let this be your reason." 1320006;1447004770;gribble;Edmund Burke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Speech On American Taxation by Edmund Burke (April 1774): ; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?: 1320007;1447004808;mircea_popescu;i get 1 tlp, 2 some quote site, 3. pete_d and 4 some weird http://femaleintel.com/cyber-bullying-and-its-effect-women-online/ 1320008;1447004810;assbot;Cyber Bullying And It's Effect Women Online » FemaleIntel ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4L1IL ) 1320009;1447004815;mircea_popescu;and "no other results" 1320010;1447004840;mircea_popescu;how the fuck is this supposed to work. 1320011;1447004867;asciilifeform;femaleintel ?!! 1320012;1447004871;asciilifeform;wut 1320013;1447004874;kakobrekla;same here 1320014;1447004888;kakobrekla;wait tomorrow, you will also get b-a log 1320015;1447004897;asciilifeform;takes 5min or so, on avg. 1320016;1447004913;asciilifeform;phun phakt, most of my searches end up returning b-a log and little else 1320017;1447004921;mircea_popescu;"Jamie Hufford 1320018;1447004921;mircea_popescu;http://femaleintel.com 1320019;1447004924;assbot;Home » FemaleIntel ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Lbju ) 1320020;1447004924;mircea_popescu;I'm a writer based out of East Village, Manhattan. I work from my condo and local coffee shops (and a few restaurants with menus that are more unhealthy than licking a subway railing), meeting friends who have boats or boat access, touring the zoo for the zoo to visit my ex-boyfriends, and forcing my political beliefs on others at social events (kidding, don't be one of those people." 1320021;1447004928;mircea_popescu;meanwhile she stole a tlp piece verbatim, 1320022;1447004929;mircea_popescu;fancy that. 1320023;1447004978;asciilifeform;meanwhile, somewhere deep in the african savanna, a hyena stole a piece of a dead lion verbatim. 1320024;1447004994;mircea_popescu;lowest effort, like us college level : left his links in even. 1320025;1447005021;mircea_popescu;You’ve taken the bait and put all your energy into accepting the form of the argument. 1320026;1447005028;asciilifeform;the one defining mark of scum, no activity but the lowest-effort variety 1320027;1447005030;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, check out the miserable shape of tlp's html 1320028;1447005034;asciilifeform;whether eating, fucking, writing 1320029;1447005071;mircea_popescu;for someone who knows enough of pgp to say "Besides, theres no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom."... 1320030;1447005266;thestringpuller;https://archive.is/A88wt << i think i just had an anurism 1320031;1447005285;thestringpuller;I hope I don't have a stroke. 1320032;1447005325;mircea_popescu;aneurysm is better than stroke because closer to b than to w. 1320033;1447005351;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244300 @ 0.00054445 = 133.0091 BTC [-] {8} 1320034;1447005370;mircea_popescu;"Something interesting started to happen this week. Last week, 82% of our payouts were being taken in bitcoin. Currently, 72% of payouts are being paid in bitcoin." 1320035;1447005396;asciilifeform;'f I had to guess which coin would become the world reserve currency in this scenario, I would go with dogecoin.' << tr0l0l0l ? 1320036;1447005399;mircea_popescu;so you're losing relevance. who the fuck is "you" anyway, i have no idea who Steve Sokolowski is supposed to be and that mug doesn't say anything other than "future unemployed college grad" to me. 1320037;1447005405;thestringpuller;I kno rite? 1320038;1447005411;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller so why do we care ? 1320039;1447005436;asciilifeform;'theymos and whoever else opposes the upgrade to make a last-ditch effort to destroy bitcoin by taking 33% of XT pools offline so that 50% would be running the old code. I wouldn't be surprised to see the largest DDoS attacks in the history of the Internet when the network commits to the upgrade two weeks later.' << wut 1320040;1447005452;asciilifeform;wreckerz!11111 1320041;1447005468;mircea_popescu;the what ? 1320042;1447005514;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, back at tlp, 1320043;1447005515;mircea_popescu;"Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities a 1320044;1447005515;mircea_popescu;nd NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500." 1320045;1447005525;mircea_popescu;i wonder how on point this is. 1320046;1447005538;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: i find stupidity entertaining 1320047;1447005572;mod6;haha, i just fixed a bug in the old perl 5.005_04 makedepend.SH script. 1320048;1447005584;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller okay, but kinda contextless like this... i mean, some nobody on some obscure site somewhere on the internet is all timecube into his alt-reality. ok... kinda you know, slapstick-y. 1320049;1447005595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37462 @ 0.00054351 = 20.361 BTC [-] {2} 1320050;1447006070;asciilifeform;'The rabbi's wife tries in vain to stop her children, aged four and eight, fighting in her bunk. Her neighbours, kept awake by the din, swear at them. A woman screams because a mouse has run over her face. Bedbugs drop from the higher bunks onto the lower. Another woman screams because the little boy in the bunk above her has spilled the jam jar he uses as a chamber pot all over her. Somebody has whooping cough. Another little 1320051;1447006070;asciilifeform; boy begs his mother not to beat him because in his sleep he wet the bunk he shares with her. She does and he squeals. A former night-club dancer tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh. A spoilt rich wife has hung her clothes on all available nails, leaving no room for anybody else. The passage ends with: "In 24 out of 24 hou 1320052;1447006070;asciilifeform;rs there is never a minute's silence...' 1320053;1447006110;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: well recently reread: http://trilema.com/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/; and recently saw that all altcoins combined have less market cap than bitcoin; same feeling luke wilson has in Idocracy i 'spose 1320054;1447006327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116342 @ 0.00055145 = 64.1568 BTC [+] {3} 1320055;1447006388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00055862 = 4.8941 BTC [+] 1320056;1447006693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35050 @ 0.00055861 = 19.5793 BTC [-] {3} 1320057;1447006719;mircea_popescu;yeah, there's not much substance there. not only is only 10% of the money in alts, and not only does this mean a billion alts, but the important point is that it's a selected 10%, and selected badly/for stupidity. 1320058;1447006748;mircea_popescu;just like if you get the wrong 10% of the rent market you're out of busienss as a landlord ; or if you get the wrong 10% of patrons your pizzeria's dead etc. 1320059;1447006772;mircea_popescu;something like http://trilema.com/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/ 1320060;1447006773;assbot;Adnotated words of wisdom on the topic of online fraud on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OxEu17 ) 1320061;1447006794;asciilifeform;like running an engine on bitumen 1320062;1447006821;mircea_popescu;right ? "10% of crude!" 1320063;1447006827;asciilifeform;it. 1320064;1447006869;mircea_popescu;" A former night-club dancer tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh." << this is the gain. 1320065;1447006967;mircea_popescu;"Hess yells about a world of masculine power because she has the power to yell at it. But of course her power is limited only to yelling, she is impotent against a troll who yells at her. But her mistake is in thinking he has the power. No one has it, the system doesn't allow it. Even the mighty Economist demo feels impotent. Are they all delusional? This is the true critique of the system, not simply that one group re 1320066;1447006967;mircea_popescu;liably oppresses another; but that the entire system is based on creating a lack. This lack is not a bottomless hole that nothing could ever fill, but a tiny, strangely shaped divot in your soul into which nothing could ever fit: not money, not sex, not stuff, not relationships. Nothing "takes." Nothing counts. Nothing is ever right. Only novelty works, until it wears off." 1320067;1447006998;mircea_popescu;i love this guy. 1320068;1447007023;mircea_popescu;but anyway, yes, that's exactly the problem : slavery without a master is hollow. hence all the matrix stuff. 1320069;1447007120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14486 @ 0.00055988 = 8.1104 BTC [+] {2} 1320070;1447007123;asciilifeform;ants in a circle. 1320071;1447007203;mircea_popescu;this is a great fucking article. 1320072;1447007273;mircea_popescu;"Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." 1320073;1447007276;mircea_popescu;hurr. 1320074;1447007290;mircea_popescu;and then that fucktard went TO THE GUARDIAN. 1320075;1447007307;mircea_popescu;worst fucking idea in the history of bad ideas. 1320076;1447007626;asciilifeform;http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/index.html << it is possible that some folks here have never seen this astonishing document. 1320077;1447007627;assbot;The GNU C Library: Top ... ( http://bit.ly/1kDD9bX ) 1320078;1447007627;mircea_popescu;anyway, this completes my full re-reading of tlp! 1320079;1447007631;asciilifeform;the sheer elephantiasis 1320080;1447007665;asciilifeform;raise yer hands if ever heard of an 'obstack' 1320081;1447007700;asciilifeform;or an argz 1320082;1447007748;asciilifeform;oh and, phun phakt of the day, gpg 1.4.10 will link in 'gettext' if it finds it 1320083;1447007770;mircea_popescu;argz yea 1320084;1447007862;asciilifeform;this salvage op is not raising a fishing trawler that went down last business quarter. it is not raising 'kursk' submarine. it is not raising 'titanic', even. it is raising the empty treasure chest on a spanish galleon that sank in 1600s and colonized by little fish. 1320085;1447007889;mircea_popescu;iirc the decision libc is not salvageable is months old by now 1320086;1447007895;asciilifeform;not speaking of libc 1320087;1447007907;asciilifeform;but of gpg, but secondarily, the whole shebang. 1320088;1447007947;mircea_popescu;mmm 1320089;1447008140;asciilifeform;http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Trivial-Encryption.html#Trivial-Encryption << why??? 1320090;1447008141;assbot;The GNU C Library: Trivial Encryption ... ( http://bit.ly/1kDEcbH ) 1320091;1447008176;mircea_popescu;for the same reason old tripod web pages got a "guestbook" 1320092;1447008209;asciilifeform;'we do what we must, because we can' ? 1320093;1447008233;mircea_popescu;"This is a good function for hiding information from someone who doesnt want to see it or doesnt want to see it very much. " 1320094;1447008297;mircea_popescu;"why is this a good function ?" "because for hiding" "why is something good is not accepting something exists and seeking the ex post facto rationalization of that existence, this isn't fucking school." "oh" 1320095;1447008372;mircea_popescu;basically the problem of all these idiots stems from the twin grasp of a) design is not a deliberate activity but "should arise naturally", like their delusional view of identity, love, hapiness et all ; b) 0 actual experience, entire life lived in the narrow constraints of for-play reality. 1320096;1447008376;asciilifeform;where was that mircea_popescu (?) article re: how a child learns that 'i can create!!1111!!' when he takes his first self-aware shit, and that many people wedge at this blockheight ? 1320097;1447008402;mircea_popescu;calling this mp is a gross misattribution, the idea's old and well discussed/accepted 1320098;1447008410;asciilifeform;yes but there was a particular exposition 1320099;1447008415;mircea_popescu;hm. 1320100;1447008469;asciilifeform;'featuritis' is an inevitable outgrowth of this particular flavour of insanity, where the sufferer believes that adding anything whatsoever, so long as his 'intentions were pure' or whatnot, is a 'contribution' 1320101;1447008485;asciilifeform;even (especially) if the addition is of his own shit 1320102;1447008534;mircea_popescu;i vaguely remember the thing but i can't tell you which article 1320103;1447008593;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform in the good news department - progressing illiteracy means they've moved on from featuritis to fixing comments in the code so it no longer includes the string "retarded" and all " he" is replaced with "erzsjebet". 1320104;1447008710;asciilifeform;will be interesting to see the 'fall of constantinopol' moment when linus t. is finally purged 1320105;1447008728;asciilifeform;presently the comments people are yet outside of the walls 1320106;1447008756;asciilifeform;befouling 'node js' and other things which i've never even heard of until their mention in here 1320107;1447008787;mircea_popescu;how exactly would that purge work ? 1320108;1447008812;asciilifeform;i must confess that i do not know about re: the modus operandi, to say precisely 1320109;1447008832;mircea_popescu;but in principle. 1320110;1447008840;asciilifeform;but i imagine they'll install some 'sjw' chick in 'his' place 1320111;1447008884;mircea_popescu;no, but how ? 1320112;1447008896;mircea_popescu;like what happens, google takes his email away gives it to whoever ? 1320113;1447008902;mircea_popescu;so he makes a new email. 1320114;1447008916;asciilifeform;'dbus', 'kernel systemd', and other filth will be insta-merged in (or rather, usg's pre-readied fork becomes 'blessed') 1320115;1447008932;mircea_popescu;insta merged where by whom ? 1320116;1447008939;mircea_popescu;this is what i'm trying to follow. 1320117;1447008942;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: yours is the $64-quadrillion-bezzollar question - what weapon 1320118;1447008953;asciilifeform;i'll say, what weapon: 1320119;1447008957;asciilifeform;device drivers. 1320120;1447008967;mircea_popescu;i still don't get it. 1320121;1447009006;asciilifeform;example. some months ago, i tried one of those 'usb 3.0 to flatpanel' gizmos. 1320122;1447009038;asciilifeform;turned out, they ~~ALL~~ use the same chip. and the vendor 'finally knuckled under and released linux drv!!!' to 'great rejoicing of the proletariat.' EXCEPT... 1320123;1447009050;asciilifeform;it isn't a linux drv. it's a closed blob. and works ONLY with ubuntu kernels. 1320124;1447009062;asciilifeform;for reasons that no one was ever bothered to discover. 1320125;1447009080;asciilifeform;these idiocies - are legion. 1320126;1447009117;asciilifeform;and just about every time i try to plug in a piece of hardware too young for the white plastic to have turned a deep spittoon yellow, i encounter them. 1320127;1447009177;asciilifeform;so, as with the fall of the original byzantium, it will be an implosion of an already rotten husk 1320128;1447009210;asciilifeform;it is already quite difficult, bordering on impossible, to run 'vanilla' kernel on anything like consumer hardware. 1320129;1447009236;asciilifeform;and the items which work, or appear to, are hanging on by a thread 1320130;1447009258;asciilifeform;e.g., the traditional standby of 'this vga card WILL work' is... intel's cheapo thing, as in mircea_popescu's thinkpads. 1320131;1447009264;asciilifeform;guess what - NO LONGER releases specs. 1320132;1447009276;mircea_popescu;but this turns out LINUX. 1320133;1447009288;mircea_popescu;it doesn't wedge linus from linux, it wedges linux from the usg world (or vice-versa) 1320134;1447009292;mircea_popescu;for linus it's actually beneficial. 1320135;1447009305;asciilifeform;it wedges out linux. to be replaced with - ubuntu et al. 1320136;1447009319;mircea_popescu;besides the point. under discussion here is specifically the unseating of linus from linux. 1320137;1447009354;asciilifeform;at some point it will be 'unless violet purple signs this kernel, pc you bought at the store won't boot it' 1320138;1447009364;asciilifeform;and linus can go and ???. 1320139;1447009418;asciilifeform;all the 'jwz'-style 'pragmatists' who followed l. will join the 'new linux'. 1320140;1447009445;asciilifeform;y'know, the ones who 'just want it to work' 1320141;1447009506;mircea_popescu;this is not liable to happen. 1320142;1447009515;mircea_popescu;this would be a clarification. usg depends on fog. 1320143;1447009532;asciilifeform;actually it already partially happened 1320144;1447009548;asciilifeform;the 'secure boot' thing, that is 1320145;1447009560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00056074 = 11.7755 BTC [+] 1320146;1447009573;mircea_popescu;that ahppened in the sense "securom" happened. 1320147;1447009587;mircea_popescu;or w/e the magical measure defeated by magic marker were called 1320148;1447009615;asciilifeform;the extant version is a kind of draft 1320149;1447009622;mircea_popescu;fog. 1320150;1447009629;asciilifeform;yes, you can desolder the rom and rewrite, and have something like a normal box 1320151;1447009640;asciilifeform;BUT you can't remove intel's 'management' fw 1320152;1447009651;asciilifeform;which is where the next incarnation will do the sig check. 1320153;1447009666;mircea_popescu;the moment that happens intel is so dead... 1320154;1447009684;asciilifeform;recall the 'violence without recourse' thing ? 1320155;1447009687;asciilifeform;works both ways, no ? 1320156;1447009695;asciilifeform;what exactly is done after 'intel is so dead' ? 1320157;1447009741;mircea_popescu;kidnap women in the steppes of washington, dc, for sale in the slave market at saigon ? 1320158;1447009838;mircea_popescu;anwyay. the only actually feasible approach is to unfortunate boating accident him, after which yeah, linux'll be all concern trolled into oblivion. 1320159;1447009843;asciilifeform;you left out 'watering the horses in the rhine' 1320160;1447009859;mircea_popescu;meh, the rhine. who cares. 1320161;1447009865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23135 @ 0.00056075 = 12.973 BTC [+] {2} 1320162;1447009967;asciilifeform;the tricky bit is that ru can't even make kalash at scale without 'pentium' now. much less tmsr multiplying primes without all-seeing eye of hitler in the mix. 1320163;1447010001;mircea_popescu;grow more hands! 1320164;1447010006;mircea_popescu;faster! 1320165;1447010015;asciilifeform;l0l 1320166;1447010423;btcdrak;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s0uii/bip_101_has_activated_on_the_testnet_need_your/ 1320167;1447010424;assbot;BIP 101 has activated on the testnet. Need your help to test large blocks. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkNVLn ) 1320168;1447010507;mircea_popescu;can't possibly hurt. 1320169;1447010536;mircea_popescu;imagine that XT had "consensus" and "expert support" a year before any sort of testing was done whatsoever. 1320170;1447010719;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00056132 = 26.4662 BTC [+] {2} 1320171;1447010730;mircea_popescu;anyway. with any luck we'll be rephrasing Thing 1 to "actual Bitcoin" I guess. 1320172;1447010757;asciilifeform;iirc that was already thing1 ?? 1320173;1447010796;*;mircea_popescu tries to remember who Jonathan Toomim was. 1320174;1447010806;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform myeah. 1320175;1447010839;asciilifeform;http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining << him ? 1320176;1447010840;assbot;Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsZC6d ) 1320177;1447010844;mircea_popescu;o wait, i know now! random guy who joined github in 2015, has absolutely no interests outside of bitcoinxt and totally absolutely is not a transparent front for any institutional player, 100% sure. 1320178;1447010846;mircea_popescu;mmmkay. 1320179;1447010889;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah. 1320180;1447010988;mircea_popescu;btcdrak so how's life ? 1320181;1447011074;btcdrak;mircea_popescu: same old same old. 1320182;1447011099;mircea_popescu;you gonna do a qntra piece sometime ? 1320183;1447011163;btcdrak;mircea_popescu: yeah I could. I was thinking about writing something soon 1320184;1447011171;btcdrak;was going to use Medium, but :)) 1320185;1447011184;mircea_popescu;much better :) 1320186;1447011207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37161 @ 0.00055069 = 20.4642 BTC [-] 1320187;1447012488;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15692 @ 0.00055535 = 8.7146 BTC [+] {2} 1320188;1447012549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13071 @ 0.00055368 = 7.2372 BTC [-] {3} 1320189;1447013281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00055069 = 21.9725 BTC [-] 1320190;1447013474;BingoBoingo;"The verified Twitter account for Missouri football coach Gary Pinkel has posted a picture of the team and coaches locking arms." << I am more certain Wolfe is out this week, probably Monday, than I am Bitcoin is crossing $400 again this month. 1320191;1447013647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00055069 = 17.8974 BTC [-] 1320192;1447013956;BingoBoingo; was going to use Medium, but :)) << You know I've seen a lot of stuff mysteriously vanish from Medium 1320193;1447014495;BingoBoingo;!up hdbuck 1320194;1447014619;hdbuck;bingoboingo oh hello there 1320195;1447014630;BingoBoingo;Hello 1320196;1447014681;BingoBoingo;How have things been where you are? 1320197;1447014825;hdbuck;nothing to report so far, mostly enjoying the show :) 1320198;1447014894;BingoBoingo;cool 1320199;1447015032;hdbuck;;;later tell pete_dushenski i think you 'withdraw your objection', rather than 'rest your case'. http://qntra.net/2015/10/uber-provides-alibi-for-armed-robbery/#comment-67516 << probably, yes :) 1320200;1447015033;assbot;Uber Provides Alibi for Armed Robbery | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GasnEj ) 1320201;1447015033;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1320202;1447015138;hdbuck;am all ears for a btcdrak qntra article regarding the latest xt comedy 1320203;1447015182;btcdrak;did anyone read the Mike Hearn AMA? 1320204;1447015223;hdbuck;first question got my eyes bleed. 1320205;1447015232;btcdrak;it gave me cancer 1320206;1447015256;BingoBoingo;http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3250 1320207;1447015257;assbot;JL: Mourning ‘Smaug’s Shit’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1WHjKIA ) 1320208;1447015274;btcdrak;he's not even trying to be sly now, he just outright lies, blatant lies with impunity. 1320209;1447015277;BingoBoingo;"However, it seems the giant pile of heroin I have theorized came into Baltimore in late April, did in fact exist, had been referred to by local low level players as Smaugs Shit after the legendary hoard of the dragon that was the giant villain in J. R. R. Tolkiens Hobbit story, and has since been plundered by Dem muvafuckin PoPo Dwarf shits." 1320210;1447015295;BingoBoingo;!up HostFat 1320211;1447015843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00055777 = 3.9044 BTC [+] {2} 1320212;1447016320;BingoBoingo;!up Cristina 1320213;1447016500;BingoBoingo;!up hdbuck 1320214;1447017308;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo this wouldn't have anything to do with bitterness over payola for "student" athletes hm ? 1320215;1447017378;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Has more to do with coach Gary Pinkel actually having more leverage with the Board of Trustees than any University or System president. 1320216;1447017404;mircea_popescu;aha 1320217;1447017424;mircea_popescu;so why they wanna get rid of the wolfe dood ? 1320218;1447017430;mircea_popescu;incidentally, you wanna interview him ? 1320219;1447017459;mircea_popescu;offer the guy a honest chance to tell his story plain. im pretty sure he has no offers. get qntra to break the libtard media embargo. 1320220;1447017490;BingoBoingo;They wanna get rid of the Wolfe dude for being white, male, and busy. Chance of snagging the interview is slim, but I may as well try. 1320221;1447017501;mircea_popescu;(should prolly be standing policy - whenever the horde picks a scapegoat, give the scapegoat a forum. if for nothing else then to bother the machine.) 1320222;1447017503;BingoBoingo;Right now the Wolfe guy has a press office. 1320223;1447017522;mircea_popescu;has a press office and exactly 0 pull 1320224;1447017530;mircea_popescu;roughly in the position of that fucktard shrem, "has a lawyer" 1320225;1447017538;mircea_popescu;yeah, he does, and the lawyer's playing for the other team 1320226;1447017580;BingoBoingo;Yeah. They didn't like him earlier because he came into University Presidenting through business. 1320227;1447017623;mircea_popescu;anyway, gotta try. one of these days you're gonna manage to connect a mad dog, and it might even do some damage. 1320228;1447017734;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67128 @ 0.00055906 = 37.5286 BTC [+] {6} 1320229;1447017766;mircea_popescu;"In the dying days of April 2015, the student body of a City High school picked a fight with the entire Baltimore City Police department, and, as the world watched, won. In the meantime, as these kids basically tried out for membership in the three drug gangs that conspired to set the city on fire while they trucked in unprecedented weight of dope, and gangs of armed black man fanned out across north, northeast, and ea 1320230;1447017767;mircea_popescu;st Baltimore beating lone white men on sight with bats, blubs and bottles, professional break-in crews cleaned out city pharmacies, cell phone stores and jewelers." 1320231;1447017777;BingoBoingo;Yeah. Right now Wolfe is in apology mode. Maybe he'll bite though. 1320232;1447017777;mircea_popescu;gee whiz, sounds like team obama got the country well under control. 1320233;1447017784;mircea_popescu;maybe it's time to call putin, have some peacekeepers sent in ? 1320234;1447017799;mircea_popescu;since they can't manage their own shit worth a damn ? the united failed states ? 1320235;1447017802;BingoBoingo;Mebbe 1320236;1447017805;mircea_popescu;it would be under un mandate. ofcourse. 1320237;1447017858;BingoBoingo;Of course 1320238;1447017962;BingoBoingo;With the MIzzou situation personally I feel the best outcome would be for all parties involved to fuck each other to death. Literally until their spirits leave their bodies. 1320239;1447017998;mircea_popescu;yeah well. 1320240;1447018038;BingoBoingo;But the crazy opposite Wolfe is the greater evil. 1320241;1447018183;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b51c7167d6ec495a7a109df4056504c3/tumblr_n81s5bghWL1rl2t88o1_1280.jpg 1320242;1447018185;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYee1h ) 1320243;1447018214;BingoBoingo;What is the US coming to though when a well scaled lizard like Wolfe can't use a university gig as a more relaxing way to keep drawing a paycheck in effective retirement. 1320244;1447018346;mircea_popescu;myeah. 1320245;1447018474;BingoBoingo;I fully expect to see a lot more Universities go through this over the next year or two as crazy realizes the football time striking trick works. 1320246;1447018481;mircea_popescu;yup. 1320247;1447018558;BingoBoingo;Because when the coach signs off on it who is some $400k a year president compared to a $2mil+ coach 1320248;1447018618;mircea_popescu;protection racked overheated, and i somehow doubt they'll manage to moderate it back to usable envelope. used to be hillary got donations and grassroot support from wolfe n1...1k on the promise of protection from the democrat footsoldiers and/or hitting the opposition. 1320249;1447018657;mircea_popescu;the problem is they've lost control, the orcs are running amok, and as a result there's not going to be any donations, there's not going to be any electoral support and moreover the opposition can mop up the entire democrat tammany hall machine. 1320250;1447019015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00055772 = 15.2258 BTC [-] 1320251;1447019031;mod6;New version of V, 99998 K has been posted. Details of changes are outlined in the email. Version 99999 K has been pulled from thebitcoin.foundation mirror, and version 99998 K is now available. 1320252;1447019035;mod6;http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000178.html 1320253;1447019036;assbot;[BTC-dev] mod6's V [in perl] version 99998 K ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYeZYa ) 1320254;1447019070;mod6;Very minor changes were made to the cucumber tests, never-the-less, here's the update there: 1320255;1447019073;mod6;http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html 1320256;1447019073;assbot;[BTC-dev] mod6's V [in perl] version 99998 K with Cucumber Tests & Testing Guide Included ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYf1zx ) 1320257;1447019181;shinohai;thanx mod6 \o/ 1320258;1447019566;shinohai;Also, happy MSR birfday. 1320259;1447020145;mod6;yw! 1320260;1447020157;mod6;yup, happy TMSR day all. 1320261;1447020210;mircea_popescu;i can't possibly have more champagne but i'm celebrating with milk. 1320262;1447020273;kakobrekla;have some kefir :p 1320263;1447020328;shinohai;I had a bottle of Mogen David sitting around. I drank that. 1320264;1447020340;mircea_popescu;these schmucks know nothing of anything. i can't pickle cabbage because in spite of not having proper picking barrels, yet i found something, and in spite of not having picking salt, except i found some (they use it for curing meat!) and in spite of not having etc etc, 1320265;1447020345;mircea_popescu;they have no fucking HORSERADISH 1320266;1447020352;mircea_popescu;i've not had decent yogurt since istanbul. 1320267;1447020385;BingoBoingo;Ty all for the reminder 1320268;1447020418;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00055737 = 21.7374 BTC [-] 1320269;1447020454;BingoBoingo;How do you not have horseradish? In these parts we have festivals to celebrate it. http://www.internationalhorseradishfestival.com/ 1320270;1447020456;assbot;Interntational Horseradish Festival HOME ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYgm9j ) 1320271;1447020456;deedbot-;[Qntra] The Most Serene Republic Celebrates First Birthday - http://qntra.net/2015/11/the-most-serene-republic-celebrates-first-birthday/ 1320272;1447020547;mircea_popescu;i dunno dude, it's insane. im gonna end up making jewish pickles with wasabi 1320273;1447020615;BingoBoingo;Most wasabi around here is just dyed and very finely grated horseradish 1320274;1447020619;BingoBoingo;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s20zy/its_been_a_year/ 1320275;1447020620;assbot;It's been a year : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYgBRO ) 1320276;1447020642;mircea_popescu;kinda my point 1320277;1447020652;BingoBoingo;Ah 1320278;1447020787;mircea_popescu;dude this bash is fabulous 1320279;1447020825;shinohai;You can use the leftover alum from pickling to tighten vaginas apparently: http://www.vaginal-tightening.com/alum-for-vaginal-tightening.php 1320280;1447020827;assbot;Alum For Vaginal Tightening | Vaginal Tightening ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYgUfx ) 1320281;1447020870;kakobrekla;wtf i get 403 forbidden 1320282;1447020901;mircea_popescu;i don't use alum. 1320283;1447020906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14693 @ 0.00055737 = 8.1894 BTC [-] 1320284;1447020960;shinohai;I have had alum in my house for shaving purposes forever. 1320285;1447020967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47507 @ 0.00056152 = 26.6761 BTC [+] {2} 1320286;1447020987;mircea_popescu;my grandfather used to use it. i never cared for the thing myself. 1320287;1447021272;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00056253 = 5.1753 BTC [+] {2} 1320288;1447021525;shinohai;http://forklog.net/longread-clash-of-generations-and-cryptotechnologies/ <<< heh 1320289;1447021526;assbot;Longread: Clash of generations and Cryptotechnologies | ForkLog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYhCcG ) 1320290;1447021621;shinohai;Sorry wrong link: https://www.hackread.com/kid-who-hacked-cia-boss-hacks-fbi/ 1320291;1447021622;assbot;The Hackers Who Obtained The CIA e-mails Claim Breaching The FBI Servers ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYhF88 ) 1320292;1447021710;ben_vulpes;who owns tinder? 1320293;1447021784;ben_vulpes;it's one of the few wobbly pillars left supporting facebook. 1320294;1447021943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36207 @ 0.00056276 = 20.3759 BTC [+] {2} 1320295;1447022675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26067 @ 0.00056137 = 14.6332 BTC [-] 1320296;1447023224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00055118 = 21.7716 BTC [-] {4} 1320297;1447024017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00055069 = 14.5107 BTC [-] {3} 1320298;1447024120;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes match.com, plenty of fish, okcupid tinder and the rest of the lesser known implementations of the social media dating scam are all owned by iac. 1320299;1447024154;mircea_popescu;(chemistry.com howaboutwe etc) 1320300;1447024217;mircea_popescu;they own zillions of spamsites, pretty much in every language iirc. 1320301;1447024322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31492 @ 0.00055728 = 17.5499 BTC [+] {2} 1320302;1447024490;mircea_popescu;anyway, iac certainly stands to gain the most should the general gullible public be persuaded that normal social interaction "could be" rape. 1320303;1447025908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3715 @ 0.00055729 = 2.0703 BTC [+] 1320304;1447026062;*;jurov tries to compile #include int main(){char *foo ="abcd"; memfrob(foo);} 1320305;1447026066;*;jurov weeps 1320306;1447026184;jurov;last time i binge read glibc info, it ended on strfry 1320307;1447026396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59000 @ 0.00055992 = 33.0353 BTC [+] 1320308;1447026476;deedbot-;[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] It takes more than time. It takes generations. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/ 1320309;1447026548;jurov;in other news, our city currently lives by unknown hero, who literally smears shit on womens' faces on streets and buses 1320310;1447026762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16026 @ 0.00056349 = 9.0305 BTC [+] {3} 1320311;1447027026;ben_vulpes;jurov: sounds like san francisco 1320312;1447027059;jurov;i don't believe that would create buzz in sf 1320313;1447027696;jurov;looks like i afk'd TMSR birthday, hooray anyway! 1320314;1447027738;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00055992 = 5.9631 BTC [-] {2} 1320315;1447027780;jurov;and as it happens that my days end up with bug reports, 1320316;1447027805;jurov;the URL of "coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation" here is broken: http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-declaration-of-sovereignty-filed/ 1320317;1447027806;assbot;Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignty Filed | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYpn25 ) 1320318;1447027841;jurov;kakobrekla or whoever, pls make http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj working again 1320319;1447027842;assbot;404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYpqv2 ) 1320320;1447027887;jurov;or we gotta sign declaration with correct url? 1320321;1447028001;kakobrekla;ping trinque about that 1320322;1447028653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00055978 = 15.4499 BTC [-] {2} 1320323;1447028778;shinohai;I am not religious, but I find this shit fascinating: https://youtu.be/ggvplwqi6tc?t=4129 1320324;1447028779;assbot;BEAUTIFUL ANGELIC BYZANTINE CHANTS (1) that HEAL BODY AND SOUL - 1 hr to be WITH CHRIST. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYqHC7 ) 1320325;1447029814;jurov;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/tmsr << additions welcome :) 1320326;1447029815;assbot;tmsr [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYs04a ) 1320327;1447029836;asciilifeform;http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/strfry.html << holy fuck jurov wasn't joking 1320328;1447029837;assbot;The GNU C Library: strfry ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYs0RF ) 1320329;1447029880;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320290 << snore, dossiers 1320330;1447029880;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 22:27:01; shinohai: Sorry wrong link: https://www.hackread.com/kid-who-hacked-cia-boss-hacks-fbi/ 1320331;1447029899;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320302 << the maggots are not the murder knife 1320332;1447029899;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 23:14:50; mircea_popescu: anyway, iac certainly stands to gain the most should the general gullible public be persuaded that normal social interaction "could be" rape. 1320333;1447029949;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320288 << author forgot to have a thesis ? 1320334;1447029949;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 22:25:25; shinohai: http://forklog.net/longread-clash-of-generations-and-cryptotechnologies/ <<< heh 1320335;1447030001;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320255 << congrats mod6 ! anybody tested ? 1320336;1447030001;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 21:44:33; mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html 1320337;1447030343;asciilifeform;here's an idea for a possible student project, 1320338;1447030376;asciilifeform;write an agitprop for 'v', explaining the ~why~ to n00bz 1320339;1447031242;shinohai;Because github sux :D 1320340;1447031690;ben_vulpes;hola hanbot 1320341;1447031702;ben_vulpes;bueno tmsr~ day, all 1320342;1447031764;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20457 @ 0.00055198 = 11.2919 BTC [-] {3} 1320343;1447032074;mircea_popescu;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/tmsr << ahaha, pretty cool! 1320344;1447032074;assbot;tmsr [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYs04a ) 1320345;1447032087;mircea_popescu;and asciilifeform has a point. 1320346;1447032103;mircea_popescu;re v explanatory. 1320347;1447032118;asciilifeform;was gonna write this in august 1320348;1447032121;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform dossiers, dossiers, but once they start coming out you know there's at least a guard change afoot 1320349;1447032123;asciilifeform;but in the trenches, deep. 1320350;1447032164;*;asciilifeform adjusts periscope 1320351;1447032272;mircea_popescu;nfi what that "longreads" thing's supposed to be, but w/e. 1320352;1447032293;mircea_popescu;"look at me masturbate! everything fits the pink box in retrospect!" 1320353;1447032346;asciilifeform;;;isup logs.bitcoin-assets.com 1320354;1447032347;gribble;logs.bitcoin-assets.com is up 1320355;1447032349;asciilifeform;hm 1320356;1447032369;hanbot;heya ben_vulpes, how goes? 1320357;1447032489;jurov;asciilifeform: you mean log.bitcoin-assets.com no? 1320358;1447032496;asciilifeform;ah yes 1320359;1447032499;shinohai;I can't help but think mod6 intentionally tied his release to this day. 1320360;1447032499;asciilifeform;;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com 1320361;1447032500;gribble;log.bitcoin-assets.com is up 1320362;1447032607;asciilifeform;http://dpaste.com/3J9PQ8Y.txt 1320363;1447032608;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oyfwyy ) 1320364;1447032729;ben_vulpes;hanbot: quite well; got some 4 hours of solid work done this am with a snoozing and cooing baby upon my chest. yourself? 1320365;1447033570;mircea_popescu;weird traceroute 1320366;1447033577;asciilifeform;no shit 1320367;1447033614;mircea_popescu;posting a tracepath in a sec 1320368;1447033620;mircea_popescu;btw, am i the only one to prefer tracepath ? 1320369;1447033661;mircea_popescu;http://dpaste.com/2D4J31K < 1320370;1447033662;assbot;dpaste: 2D4J31K ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oyh6R5 ) 1320371;1447033695;mircea_popescu;admire the bs us infrastructure omfg. 1320372;1447033781;hanbot;ben_vulpes so it's a coo-op? i'm dandy, rehydrating after last night's clubbing marathon. 1320373;1447033945;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/47309ce38d67b2a3985fe21718362d1a/tumblr_n7olpi42FM1rl2t88o2_1280.png 1320374;1447033947;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oyhuix ) 1320375;1447034082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00056388 = 15.3375 BTC [+] {3} 1320376;1447034908;ben_vulpes;hah! the lengths to which some people will go. 1320377;1447035058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00056416 = 14.1604 BTC [+] {3} 1320378;1447035426;shinohai;I'm fairly certain that in my quest for anal penetration I could find a device decidely less splintery, but to each their own. 1320379;1447036806;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/latest-on-mizzou-board-of-curators-to-meet-monday-no/article_10d2931c-cca7-56fa-93d5-87ee99843575.html << Latest news is Wolfe is almost certainly out tomorrow 1320380;1447036808;assbot;Latest on Mizzou: Board of Curators to meet Monday, no football practice, students continue protest : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HoMkat ) 1320381;1447036847;BingoBoingo;A lotta bipeds take the sports thing pretty srs in spite of alf's protests 1320382;1447037040;BingoBoingo;Classes weren't happening? Eh, no big deal. Having to field a white football team? Holy shit the sky is falling! 1320383;1447037676;ben_vulpes;BingoBoingo: movie43 has a bit on that as well. 1320384;1447037686;ben_vulpes;"they're white! you're black! what else do you need?!" 1320385;1447037710;BingoBoingo;Ah. 1320386;1447037919;BingoBoingo;Seriously the two episodes which triggered this were drunk white kids who said "nigger". Fighting that is like fighting entropy. It's just going to keep happening. 1320387;1447037974;BingoBoingo;It's going to be Obama all over again. 1320388;1447038099;BingoBoingo;The University system is probably going to get a black president, drunk white kids will keep being drunk white kids, and that's that 1320389;1447038535;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43389 @ 0.00056275 = 24.4172 BTC [-] {2} 1320390;1447039887;mod6;thanks asciilifeform 1320391;1447039911;mod6;<+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320255 << congrats mod6 ! anybody tested ? << yeah, let me know if any of you have questions/comments/problems. 1320392;1447039911;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 21:44:33; mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html 1320393;1447039991;mod6;shinohai: nothing intentional really 1320394;1447040243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00056394 = 24.475 BTC [+] {3} 1320395;1447040488;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48350 @ 0.00056429 = 27.2834 BTC [+] 1320396;1447040713;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320381 << do you know about the nika riots ? 1320397;1447040713;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 02:40:47; BingoBoingo: A lotta bipeds take the sports thing pretty srs in spite of alf's protests 1320398;1447040730;BingoBoingo;No, pls to enlighten? 1320399;1447040747;asciilifeform;http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blue-versus-green-rocking-the-byzantine-empire-113325928/?no-ist << summary picked at random 1320400;1447040748;assbot;Blue versus Green: Rocking the Byzantine Empire | History | Smithsonian ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRgaXD ) 1320401;1447040951;BingoBoingo;Ah, interesting 1320402;1447041009;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: in our own time - there was 'la guerra del futbol' 1320403;1447041023;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: ergo usa sport folks have a long way to go. 1320404;1447041035;asciilifeform;before 'seriously'. 1320405;1447041149;asciilifeform;supposedly, la guerra del futbol was the last engagement of piston-engined fighters on both sides 1320406;1447041487;BingoBoingo;I guess, though some of the US sports rivalries carry over sentiment from border skirmishes like Missouri/Kansas 1320407;1447041660;BingoBoingo;But that now only typically gets as violent as the occasional vandalism or isolated mugging/curb stomping 1320408;1447041890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48100 @ 0.00056072 = 26.9706 BTC [-] {3} 1320409;1447042378;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00056428 = 4.5707 BTC [+] {2} 1320410;1447042524;BingoBoingo;Oh, now the Atlantic supports FPH https://archive.is/MX5we 1320411;1447042525;assbot;A Case for Shaming Obese People, Tastefully - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRhM3F ) 1320412;1447042742;BingoBoingo;Socialists are realizing the MayoGendered are ruining their ObolaCare experienc 1320413;1447042841;mircea_popescu;whole shebang's fracturing every which way. 1320414;1447042927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44584 @ 0.00056429 = 25.1583 BTC [+] 1320415;1447042960;BingoBoingo;Seriously. Might go to bed early tonight for the Monday Funday drama 1320416;1447043193;BingoBoingo;It's looking like the only way the 'Murican left survives to 2020 is a Ben Carson or Ted Cruz win. 1320417;1447043223;BingoBoingo;Though the US Presidency hasn't been a win in a long time 1320418;1447043336;mircea_popescu;they better be spending half the day on knees praying mr toupe wins, because if he does there won't be power vacuum for young corporal/painter to take over. 1320419;1447043514;BingoBoingo;Trump can't actually win. No such thing as electoral bankruptcy law. 1320420;1447043659;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27704 @ 0.00055977 = 15.5079 BTC [-] {2} 1320421;1447043965;phf;mircea_popescu: sorry about not picking up mushrooms, right after i finished the port, i did a move to DC area, and then, after few days, left for a trade show, which i just came back from. i started working on a text only client for eulora, but i didn't get far enough to claim my items with it. 1320422;1447043979;phf;which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it". 1320423;1447044015;phf;i have some code for gossipd, i'm going to by the spec that's published on trilema, rather then follow up conversation about udp and first packet validation. i wrote enough in c to be able to prime gpg machinery and send packets over the wire (which basically coveres things that i wasn't sure how to do before i started), then i switched to common lisp to get a prototype up. what came out of that so far is updated bindings for lisp 1320424;1447044015;phf;support of gpgme. the bindings come standard with gpgme release, but what's there was not updated since 2008. officially artifex is still working on that, but i take it nobody's heard from him in a while? 1320425;1447044989;trinque;jurov │ kakobrekla or whoever, pls make http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj working again << I believe I have that link pointed to the correct place now. 1320426;1447044990;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYpqv2 ) 1320427;1447045059;mod6;eh, i think that was supposed to point at the treasurers document 1320428;1447045091;mod6;? 1320429;1447045094;trinque;mod6: ah, ok. and the one in the body of the article is this one? 1320430;1447045122;trinque;if nobody remembers I can figure it out myself. 1320431;1447045240;mod6;yeah, i don't recall. i had thought that maybe that deed was intended to point at the treasurers doc since it has the foundation donation address in there. 1320432;1447045250;mod6;might be worth a look to see what's what there. 1320433;1447045306;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00055835 = 29.7601 BTC [-] {4} 1320434;1447045572;mircea_popescu;phf no big deal, s'just a game 1320435;1447045687;mircea_popescu;re the meat : all of these are major projects, the expectation, imo reasonable, is that whoever decides to work on one starts by publishing code, which will vehehehery likely need refactoring perhaps even redesign. because we're here shooting in the dark. so rather than managerial idiocy, i much prefer somnething like how v worked out. 1320436;1447045717;mircea_popescu;publish a prototype, im sure alf will be more than happy to look through it, plenty other people will test it etc. 1320437;1447045787;mod6;trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2014#911918 1320438;1447045787;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2014 23:25:15; mod6: yeah got this: http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj 1320439;1447045829;mod6;maybe it was the charter 1320440;1447045833;asciilifeform;phf: callouts to gpg are a dead end 1320441;1447045848;asciilifeform;phf: and i specifically didn't go with cl because this thing CANNOT cons 1320442;1447045857;asciilifeform;try to understand why, on your own 1320443;1447045889;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform they're not a dead end for the following reason : the P must be a stand-alone building block anyway. 1320444;1447045897;mircea_popescu;they'll, if nothing else, help us understand the api to it. 1320445;1447045908;asciilifeform;standalone in the sense mpi was in gpg. 1320446;1447045915;asciilifeform;(statically linked lib) 1320447;1447045920;asciilifeform;but not separate process. 1320448;1447045922;mircea_popescu;standalone in the sense that ... well yes. 1320449;1447045931;mircea_popescu;but i want it to be one thing and everyone statically links IT 1320450;1447045934;asciilifeform;aha. 1320451;1447045937;mircea_popescu;rather than five different reimplementations 1320452;1447045941;asciilifeform;that's what i turned mpi into. 1320453;1447045950;trinque;punkman: what did those values in the URL stand for, and I can just regenerate them from what I pulled from your sqlite 1320454;1447045953;mircea_popescu;so in this sense the design is sane, as he has it. callout to "gpg", to be replaced by p 1320455;1447045964;asciilifeform;'callout' means something particular, customarily 1320456;1447045972;mircea_popescu;he didn't use the word. 1320457;1447046008;asciilifeform;'i wrote enough in c to be able to prime gpg machinery and send packets over the wire' suggested callout. but why not wait till phf wakes up and clarifies. 1320458;1447046091;mircea_popescu;aha. 1320459;1447046097;phf;asciilifeform: gpgme doesn't exactly "calls out", it talks to gpg via a text protocol, but i agree with your overall point. gossip has a fixed set of crypto operations, that can be abstracted, until you finish your crypto state machine gizmo. 1320460;1447046112;mircea_popescu;can and moreover must be. 1320461;1447046142;mircea_popescu;if we manage to avoid the insane state of importing openssl bondogle to do crypto we're so far ahead of the game... 1320462;1447046161;asciilifeform;already there. 1320463;1447046188;mircea_popescu;hm ? 1320464;1447046235;asciilifeform;gpg didn't use openssl for anything 1320465;1447046249;mircea_popescu;nono i was making a simile 1320466;1447046252;asciilifeform;ah 1320467;1447046278;phf;as far as lisp, yeah, not practical for deployment, but i started getting bogged down in trivial serialization questions, before i understand clearly how the whole system is supposed to work. once i get the spec as is up, i want to start working through those comments to modify it into a udp lower level system. in any case lisp is better option for gossip prototype, because the spec is so open ended 1320468;1447046331;mircea_popescu;so gossipd is practically going to be lisp hand-compiled ot c ? 1320469;1447046338;phf;yes 1320470;1447046348;asciilifeform;phf: i actually started where you are now 1320471;1447046367;asciilifeform;phf: but skipped straight to the c on account of realizing that 99+% of the work is precisely in getting this to behave sanely 1320472;1447046457;mircea_popescu;can lisp even be hand compiled to c ? 1320473;1447046462;phf;i'm pretty bad a dijkstra programming, i need to see the system behave to reason clearly about it, and c is not it. besides the translation is the tirvial part 1320474;1447046472;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: in a very loose sense 1320475;1447046494;mircea_popescu;phf you're not required to agree to this inasmuch as you're using your own time & hands. 1320476;1447046530;mircea_popescu;write it in lua if that's genuinely what works for you. 1320477;1447046558;asciilifeform;phf: the 'translation is trivial' is the mega-mistake. go and bake, e.g., a sane allocator. 1320478;1447046579;asciilifeform;your unix box doesn't have such a thing. and neither did mine. or anybody else's. 1320479;1447046625;phf;asciilifeform: boehm gc? 1320480;1447046628;*;phf ducks 1320481;1447046633;*;asciilifeform retches 1320482;1447046656;mircea_popescu;if you end in this situation where you have a beautiful prototype and a buggy implementation people are going to hate you. 1320483;1447046669;asciilifeform;^ 1320484;1447046671;phf;it's a tried and true strategy, original javascript has been done that way. i recently learned that that's the way dot-net garbage collector was written 1320485;1447046689;asciilifeform;and this is an example to follow ?!!! 1320486;1447046694;mircea_popescu;none of these work 1320487;1447046696;mircea_popescu;aha. 1320488;1447046725;phf;not the best examples, i agree :> 1320489;1447046731;asciilifeform;realize, i've been working on the abolition even of libc from the mix. 1320490;1447046735;mircea_popescu;actually, world famous memory hogs 1320491;1447046740;mircea_popescu;another mystery revealed. 1320492;1447046742;asciilifeform;as in all of it 1320493;1447046763;phf;i.e. system calls only? 1320494;1447046768;asciilifeform;as in when the thing gets planted on a micro we change 3 lines. 1320495;1447046773;asciilifeform;aha. 1320496;1447046783;mircea_popescu;this is rather ideal. 1320497;1447046839;asciilifeform;when i say 'program is to be read', i do not mean in a metaphorical sense of 'most of it' or 'the important parts' 1320498;1447046844;asciilifeform;but literal. 1320499;1447046874;asciilifeform;'this parachute, i wrapped myself. signed, prv. xxxxx.' 1320500;1447046875;phf;speaking of, so far what c code is written, it's written in cweb 1320501;1447046893;mircea_popescu;in what 1320502;1447046903;mircea_popescu;knuth c ? 1320503;1447046953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00055717 = 16.3808 BTC [-] 1320504;1447046996;phf;knuth literate thing, yes, the translator produces c files with relevant bits interpolated 1320505;1447047009;trinque;jurov: links in the declaration and qntra piece are afaik pointing to the right place, pending punkman's indication on how to generate the values he was using for URLs 1320506;1447047011;*;mircea_popescu is rather partial to the concept of "god damned it source code should be written in essay form what is this machine serving bs" 1320507;1447047024;trinque;also. 1320508;1447047029;trinque;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3SVEM8H.txt 1320509;1447047030;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MjlnSH ) 1320510;1447047031;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1320511;1447047268;mircea_popescu;incidentally, the only case where a "source is the spec" could be excused, is properly written knuth c. 1320512;1447047295;asciilifeform;only if the thing is entirely self-carrying. 1320513;1447047299;mircea_popescu;yes. 1320514;1447047304;asciilifeform;as in, no #include <...> 1320515;1447047309;asciilifeform;solely #include "..." 1320516;1447047315;mircea_popescu;hey, there's a principle there. 1320517;1447047321;mircea_popescu;obviously if you break the principle you break the principle. 1320518;1447047328;asciilifeform;and builds as readily on tinycc as on gcc. 1320519;1447047329;asciilifeform;etc 1320520;1447047355;mircea_popescu;i don't expect it would build on anything. 1320521;1447047362;phf;i like that the end result can be wholly signed and produces a spiffy dvi for printing 1320522;1447047377;mircea_popescu;yes. 1320523;1447047391;mircea_popescu;it's certainly a "best practice" sorta thing 1320524;1447047460;phf;it doesn't necessarily has to be particularly intrusive, i've looked at some of his "hacks", and they are very lightly annotated, but the partitioning still makes more sense that the direct flow of a c file 1320525;1447047516;mircea_popescu;whjat i mean by "best practices sorta thing" : nobody;'s going to hang you if you don't do it, but should seriously consider doing it. 1320526;1447047525;phf;in any case that's, so far, the best option i found for keeping the evils of c at a slight distance. at least interested parties can read and inspect the code, without skipping tricky parts 1320527;1447047532;asciilifeform;http://www.literateprogramming.com/cweb_download.html << very spiffy 1320528;1447047533;assbot;Literate Programming - CWEB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp7SUz ) 1320529;1447047544;*;asciilifeform went on a literate prog kick some years ago 1320530;1447047552;asciilifeform;^ linked for photos 1320531;1447047614;phf;also http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/programs.html 1320532;1447047615;assbot;Error | Stanford Computer Science ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp83za ) 1320533;1447047623;mircea_popescu;!b 2 1320534;1447047624;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1S504QB.txt ) 1320535;1447047624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64099 @ 0.00056428 = 36.1698 BTC [+] {3} 1320536;1447047632;mircea_popescu;"error stanford computer science" is just abour righr. 1320537;1447047638;asciilifeform;l0l!! 1320538;1447047640;mod6;haha 1320539;1447047772;phf;i just assume that knuth stays in millenarian maths, periodically comming out to talk about generative Organ music 1320540;1447047791;asciilifeform;moar of a centenarian imho 1320541;1447047804;phf;otherwise no relation to stanford 1320542;1447047815;asciilifeform;i dun think they have a millenarian cliff at s. 1320543;1447047823;asciilifeform;try mgu 1320544;1447047882;phf;i thought at mgu they just self-embalm, как завещал тов ленин 1320545;1447047890;asciilifeform;l0l quite likely 1320546;1447047893;asciilifeform;... are there any published recordings of knuths's organ ? 1320547;1447047929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3545 @ 0.00055717 = 1.9752 BTC [-] {2} 1320548;1447047934;*;asciilifeform tries, fails, to recall the name of the british prof who had himself embalmed and wheeled into faculty meetings long after his death 1320549;1447048031;BingoBoingo;* asciilifeform tries, fails, to recall the name of the british prof who had himself embalmed and wheeled into faculty meetings long after his death << Bentham 1320550;1447048071;asciilifeform;https://www.ucl.ac.uk/Bentham-Project/who/autoicon << apparently 1320551;1447048072;assbot;Auto-Icon ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp95eq ) 1320552;1447048111;punkman;trinque: the urls should be in the database, it was base58-encoded sha256 hashes 1320553;1447048139;asciilifeform;'Not surprisingly, this peculiar relic has given rise to numerous legends and anecdotes. One of the most commonly recounted is that the Auto-Icon regularly attends meetings of the College Council, and that it is solemnly wheeled into the Council Room to take its place among the present-day members. Its presence, it is claimed, is always recorded in the minutes with the words Jeremy Bentham - present but not voting. Another ver 1320554;1447048139;asciilifeform;sion of the story asserts that the Auto-Icon does vote, but only on occasions when the votes of the other Council members are equally split. In these cases the Auto-Icon invariably votes for the motion.' 1320555;1447048180;trinque;punkman: cool, thanks 1320556;1447048309;mod6;" 1320557;1447048311;mod6;However, the head proved an irresistible target for students, especially from King's College London, who stole the head in 1975 and demanded a ransom of £100 to be paid to the charity Shelter. UCL finally agreed to pay a ransom of £10 and the head was returned. " 1320558;1447048320;mod6;haha 1320559;1447048600;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00055849 = 19.5472 BTC [+] {3} 1320560;1447051101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00055851 = 19.0173 BTC [+] {4} 1320561;1447051186;pete_dushenski;happy bday, serenissians ! 1320562;1447051315;pete_dushenski;http://qntra.net/2015/11/mizzou-and-yale-experience-acute-unrest/ << nice one bb. major lulzfest. 1320563;1447051316;assbot;Mizzou and Yale Experience Acute Unrest | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0EY9 ) 1320564;1447051435;pete_dushenski;https://web.archive.org/web/20151107010454/http://yaleherald.com/op-eds/hurt-at-home/ << ftr. this is the original 'hurt at home' piece as published in, and since withdrawn from, the yale herald 1320565;1447051437;assbot;Hurt at home - The Yale Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0MXq ) 1320566;1447051496;punkman;so question for engineers: I have an aluminum window casing that's corroding in a couple spots around the edges, and corroded part is growing outwards something like puffy/powdery flakes. been trying to find the technical term to no avail. 1320567;1447051551;pete_dushenski;technical term for corrosion ? 1320568;1447051599;pete_dushenski;"Christakis hasn’t checked in on any of us. He hasn’t given us any indication that he is going to or wants to heal the community. If you know I’m in pain and you aren’t doing anything to try to help me, then how can you be sorry? Christakis is the Master of Silliman College, it is his job to take care of us, and he is failing." << so much lose it wins. 1320569;1447051645;punkman;pete_dushenski: whatever it is that's happening. it looks pretty weird 1320570;1447051732;pete_dushenski;sounds like the protective anodised coating on your aluminum frames has lost the battle against mother nature 1320571;1447051756;pete_dushenski;maybe replace them with fibreglass ? or tell landlord to ? 1320572;1447051790;*;pete_dushenski just realised how shocked he'd be to find a fibreglass-framed window anywhere in greece 1320573;1447051801;punkman;how's fibreglass work for that 1320574;1447051819;pete_dushenski;fibreglass doesn't corrode 1320575;1447051899;pete_dushenski;also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration 1320576;1447052030;pete_dushenski;though this similarity in the coefficient of expansion assumes a triple-glazing, which is relatively common here, whereas milder climates will use double, even single-glazed windows 1320577;1447052063;punkman;yeah I barely need windows here, only double-glaze 1320578;1447052138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30410 @ 0.00055612 = 16.9116 BTC [-] {3} 1320579;1447052144;punkman;hmm kinda looks like this one http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IJHRC8dgrWs/TUmIM3qKkLI/AAAAAAAAAAg/P9sfhkx_c5I/s1600/nimatoidis.jpg 1320580;1447052145;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC1tA1 ) 1320581;1447052294;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319928 << it's the exact same type of insane optimism that saw me blindsided by the last provincial and national election here, both of which went further left. 1320582;1447052294;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 16:45:02; mircea_popescu: hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even. 1320583;1447052321;pete_dushenski;punkman: that's some pretty bad pitting 1320584;1447052351;punkman;no pitting on mine, just that whitish growth 1320585;1447052384;punkman;guess I'll call the company that installed them 1320586;1447052991;punkman;pic http://i.imgur.com/rXf3tqw.jpg 1320587;1447052992;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC2mc0 ) 1320588;1447053053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170500 @ 0.00055034 = 93.833 BTC [-] {6} 1320589;1447053437;pete_dushenski;punkman: that's some strange alright. 1320590;1447053493;pete_dushenski;if you hadn't said it was an aluminum frame, i wouldn't have believed it 1320591;1447053928;pete_dushenski;http://googleresearch.blogspot.ca/2015/11/computer-respond-to-this-email.html?m=1 << good god what is wrong with the heads of google employees 1320592;1447053929;assbot;Research Blog: Computer, respond to this email. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC3goS ) 1320593;1447053991;pete_dushenski;"answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?" 1320594;1447054012;punkman;"But replying to email on mobile is a real pain, even for short replies." oh so Android sucks for doing anything? 1320595;1447054031;pete_dushenski;"Another bizarre feature of our early prototype was its propensity to respond with “I love you” to seemingly anything. As adorable as this sounds, it wasn’t really what we were hoping for. Some analysis revealed that the system was doing exactly what we’d trained it to do, generate likely responses -- and it turns out that responses like “Thanks", "Sounds good", and “I love you” are super common -- 1320596;1447054031;pete_dushenski; so the system would lean on them as a safe bet if it was unsure. Normalizing the likelihood of a candidate reply by some measure of that response's prior probability forced the model to predict responses that were not just highly likely, but also had high affinity to the original message. This made for a less lovey, but far more useful, email assistant. 1320597;1447054031;pete_dushenski;Give it a try 1320598;1447054032;pete_dushenski;We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned." 1320599;1447054060;pete_dushenski;i thought it was one of those 'fun' prototypes for wanking each other off to. but it's actually being implemented. 1320600;1447054088;pete_dushenski;punkman: mobiles for for teh status 1320601;1447054101;pete_dushenski;which is why apple rules the roost 1320602;1447054107;pete_dushenski;and really has no competition 1320603;1447054136;pete_dushenski;apple = patek philippe heirloom quality phn0es 1320604;1447054152;punkman;except they stop working after a couple years 1320605;1447054205;pete_dushenski;what, like giving your child a legacy is free ? pff. don't be cheap. buy more $aapl 1320606;1447054251;pete_dushenski;not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years. 1320607;1447054272;pete_dushenski;ok, $2k servicing. but still ! 1320608;1447054278;trinque;phf: thanks for the example code for cl-irc; works well. I'm now porting over the deed handling code from my wad of python. 1320609;1447054282;punkman;even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future". 1320610;1447054330;trinque;and incidentally adlai this one when finished will be released as a deed itself. 1320611;1447054396;pete_dushenski;punkman: if it mobile/touch wasn't teh future, they'd have to start looking for jobs that didn't require them to live in truck trailers in the parking lot 1320612;1447054411;pete_dushenski;...of their office 1320613;1447054761;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100277 @ 0.00056007 = 56.1621 BTC [+] {4} 1320614;1447055169;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320121 << /me has a usb 2.0 version on order. eager to add third monitor to set-up but not surprised to learn that they all use the same chip. 1320615;1447055169;assbot;Logged on 08-11-2015 18:56:46; asciilifeform: example. some months ago, i tried one of those 'usb 3.0 to flatpanel' gizmos. 1320616;1447055226;pete_dushenski;not one such 'graphics adapter' that i could find was produced by a manufacturer that i'd ever heard of. all seemed to be chinese 'brands', the type that horribly misspell labels 1320617;1447055637;pete_dushenski;http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n21/patrick-cockburn/too-weak-too-strong << plausible sounding report on syria/isis these days 1320618;1447055638;assbot;Patrick Cockburn · Too Weak, Too Strong: Russia in Syria · LRB 5 November 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/20FSrxF ) 1320619;1447055797;punkman;http://www.nrk.no/troms/mystisk-rodt-slim-dekker-millioner-av-kubikkmeter-i-fjorden-1.12643287 1320620;1447055798;assbot;Mystisk rødt slim dekker millioner av kubikkmeter i fjorden - NRK Troms - Lokale nyheter, TV og radio ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYUhTn ) 1320621;1447055851;punkman;"15-30 meter thick layer of jellyfish on the seabed" 1320622;1447055889;punkman;"they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp." 1320623;1447055920;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.00056233 = 25.108 BTC [+] 1320624;1447056467;pete_dushenski;https://archive.is/JYcZ6 << it's not debtor's prison, it's 'coworking space' !! 1320625;1447056469;assbot;Coliving: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYUWUV ) 1320626;1447056519;punkman;why the hell did they replace "Dorms for Grownups" with "Coliving" in title 1320627;1447056531;pete_dushenski;it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel ! 1320628;1447056591;pete_dushenski;because 'co-' is the new 'sustainable' 1320629;1447056607;pete_dushenski;'co-create', 'co-imagined', etc 1320630;1447056646;pete_dushenski;lot of senseless, meaningless blah blah to paper over failings, shortcomings, and inadequacies of an entire generation. 1320631;1447056784;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320410 << wunderbar. les jeux sont faits. and the board on which to play is as broad and wide as the prairies themselves. 1320632;1447056784;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 04:15:24; BingoBoingo: Oh, now the Atlantic supports FPH https://archive.is/MX5we 1320633;1447057393;*;pete_dushenski to bed 1320634;1447058177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00056446 = 12.3617 BTC [+] {2} 1320635;1447059763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00056607 = 17.5199 BTC [+] {3} 1320636;1447060251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54802 @ 0.00056233 = 30.8168 BTC [-] 1320637;1447061593;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45838 @ 0.00056853 = 26.0603 BTC [+] 1320638;1447062813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19408 @ 0.00056846 = 11.0327 BTC [-] 1320639;1447066595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1892 @ 0.00056846 = 1.0755 BTC [-] 1320640;1447067571;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00056654 = 17.1945 BTC [-] {2} 1320641;1447067693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00056886 = 27.5897 BTC [+] {2} 1320642;1447068608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41150 @ 0.00056589 = 23.2864 BTC [-] 1320643;1447068972;adlai;trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated 1320644;1447069532;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320643 <<< I was unaware signatures could possess anything, therefore I believe the signature was or became malleated. 1320645;1447069532;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 11:36:12; adlai: trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated 1320646;1447069767;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00056177 = 13.7634 BTC [-] {3} 1320647;1447069775;*;adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety... 1320648;1447069915;shinohai;hue 1320649;1447070137;adlai;trinque: fwiw deedbot- also seems to be using uncompressed addresses, perhaps a bug of the feature variety 1320650;1447070287;adlai;reasons left as an exercise to the alert sweeper 1320651;1447072492;funkenstein_;http://www.theonion.com/article/economists-estimate-human-civilization-still-years-51792 <-- t. hermann zwiebel reads the logs 1320652;1447072493;assbot;Economists Estimate Human Civilization Still Years Away From Turning Profit - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuyNhY ) 1320653;1447072609;shinohai;^ LOL 1320654;1447073793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00055928 = 9.1722 BTC [-] 1320655;1447074098;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00055928 = 6.1521 BTC [-] 1320656;1447074612;fluffypony;lol 1320657;1447074622;fluffypony;humanity is the world's worst startup, then :-P 1320658;1447075562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00056334 = 5.6897 BTC [+] 1320659;1447076050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00056326 = 13.0113 BTC [-] 1320660;1447076519;BingoBoingo; ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home? 1320661;1447076615;BingoBoingo;Or jsut take it to the local jewler for service. Warranties are overrated. 1320662;1447076660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31044 @ 0.00055932 = 17.3635 BTC [-] {3} 1320663;1447078209;jurov;dunno, maybe they service it with tunnelling microscope in hard vacuum 1320664;1447078248;BingoBoingo;Could be it 1320665;1447079771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00056329 = 15.6031 BTC [+] 1320666;1447079893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58800 @ 0.0005543 = 32.5928 BTC [-] {2} 1320667;1447080892;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320575 << word. 1320668;1447080892;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 06:51:39; pete_dushenski: also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration 1320669;1447081025;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320581 << how can it be optimism, yo ? for one thing i don't live there. for the other thing, the breakdown of their system is bad news for them. yes, it sucked, but like ankylosis, at lrast it held things together. 1320670;1447081025;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 06:58:14; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319928 << it's the exact same type of insane optimism that saw me blindsided by the last provincial and national election here, both of which went further left. 1320671;1447081034;mircea_popescu;now the arms are gonna start falling off. 1320672;1447081092;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320593 << gee, ik dunno... wouldn't it be nice if you STOPPED WITH THE BULLSHIT MOBILE ? on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work ? 1320673;1447081092;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 07:26:31; pete_dushenski: "answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?" 1320674;1447081123;mircea_popescu;this fucking us insanity. step 1 : replace computer with phone, which does not work as computer ; step 2 : stop doing the things you used to do on compuer you can't now do on phone. 1320675;1447081164;mircea_popescu;they do it everywhere, step 1 : replace food with synthetic condensate, which doesn't work as food ; 2 : go to doctor to cure your problems arising from the fact that you don't eat food, you eat tyres and wd40. 1320676;1447081197;mircea_popescu;completely fucking nuts. 1320677;1447081307;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320598 << HOW WELL it works ? how the fuck could it work well. it's just http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-3043.48-3043.123 to the power of nine thousand. 1320678;1447081307;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 07:27:12; pete_dushenski: We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned." 1320679;1447081308;assbot;Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NECmTU ) 1320680;1447081539;asciilifeform;re: 'mobile' answering robot: why not cut to the chase and do a full 'dead souls' with eliza in place of the luser. 1320681;1447081570;asciilifeform;then let the customized elizas noise at each other, ad infinitum 1320682;1447081574;mircea_popescu;"They have again and again shown that they are committed to an ideal of free speech, not to the Silliman community." 1320683;1447081574;shinohai;can confirm, a bot on tardstalk yields gems 1320684;1447081579;mircea_popescu;dude what is this inept shit lmao. 1320685;1447081589;mircea_popescu;college is only alma mater IRONICALLY ffs. 1320686;1447081610;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform seems to be the plan for "continued economic growth" 1320687;1447081618;asciilifeform;aha, as in that orlol 1320688;1447081643;mircea_popescu;im kinda miffed we don't get moar of the "precious indications at the xth congress" solemnity. 1320689;1447081650;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2014#575704 1320690;1447081650;assbot;Logged on 23-03-2014 01:48:22; asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html 1320691;1447081651;asciilifeform;^ it 1320692;1447081677;mircea_popescu;soviets ashamed of themselves ? sort-of like going to the strip club to watch a bunch of nude ladies bent like teens and protecting their pubenda. 1320693;1447081695;mircea_popescu;"Its unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences." 1320694;1447081696;mircea_popescu;bvwahaha 1320695;1447081699;mircea_popescu;o god i gotta stop. 1320696;1447081709;mircea_popescu;who the fuck is Jencey Paz 1320697;1447081764;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320606 << no you're supposed to do it by yourself like in those ads! teach 9yo all about how their hands aren't steady and the intricate mechanisms that make the world tick HATE THEM 1320698;1447081764;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 07:30:51; pete_dushenski: not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years. 1320699;1447081767;mircea_popescu;valuable life lesson. 1320700;1447081791;shinohai;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320690 <<< this guy's shibboleth 1320701;1447081791;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 15:07:30; assbot: Logged on 23-03-2014 01:48:22; asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html 1320702;1447081808;asciilifeform;i thought 'teach 9yo all about how their hands aren't steady' is what you do at the rifle range 1320703;1447081824;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320609 << in the expression of tlp, "more of the same and less of everything" 1320704;1447081824;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 07:31:22; punkman: even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future". 1320705;1447081828;mircea_popescu;that's the future. 1320706;1447081845;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nah, that's where you teach them they're chickenshits. remember the vacuum ? 1320707;1447081854;asciilifeform;hm? 1320708;1447081874;mircea_popescu;this buran item, made out of solid steel, huge noise. i said it scared the shit out of me and iirc you said the same 1320709;1447081879;asciilifeform;oh, it! 1320710;1447081904;asciilifeform;http://64.img.avito.st/640x480/153118764.jpg << him 1320711;1447081904;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NEDQ0j ) 1320712;1447081907;mircea_popescu;fucking jet engine 1320713;1447081915;mircea_popescu;it even looked like a jet engine. 1320714;1447081917;asciilifeform;sure did 1320715;1447081923;asciilifeform;gotta love the finish on that thing 1320716;1447081925;asciilifeform;how is that even made. 1320717;1447081933;*;mircea_popescu actually said "well obviously" in class when learning about teh space race from soviet perspective. "FIRST SATELLITE!111" 1320718;1447081951;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform exactly that. 1320719;1447081973;mircea_popescu;from what i understand, it's knifed and enameled. 1320720;1447081992;asciilifeform;to me that thing (and perhaps the bk0010 micro) is emblematic of all that was ~good~ and right about su 1320721;1447081996;*;mircea_popescu is fucking tempted to try and find one here. i bet you it exists. 1320722;1447082002;mircea_popescu;do an unboxing or what's it called. 1320723;1447082005;asciilifeform;aha i'd have one if it didn't 220v 1320724;1447082015;mircea_popescu;o but alfie. argentina does 220 :D 1320725;1447082020;asciilifeform;aha. 1320726;1447082053;asciilifeform;http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1970-VACUUM-CLEANER-BURAN-RUSSIAN-USSR-220V-390W-WORK-BOX-/271892056926 << l0l, exists 1320727;1447082054;assbot;VINTAGE 1970 VACUUM CLEANER * BURAN * RUSSIAN USSR * 220V * 390W * WORK * BOX * ... ( http://bit.ly/1NEEdYB ) 1320728;1447082072;mircea_popescu;i tell you... the fact that that textile hose NEVER DISATTACHED from the metal end. 1320729;1447082084;mircea_popescu;i never thought this possible, it struck me as a bad idea. it dies there. 1320730;1447082089;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00056147 = 22.6834 BTC [+] {4} 1320731;1447082094;mircea_popescu;i think they have steel mesh reinforcement inside that's welded to the inner tube 1320732;1447082100;asciilifeform;sure did. 1320733;1447082114;mircea_popescu;the textile is just decor, not a structural element. 1320734;1447082124;mircea_popescu;dude i'd so pay 400 bux for this. 1320735;1447082131;asciilifeform;the hose is armoured, like the fuel line for icbm 1320736;1447082146;asciilifeform;hoses were srs business (tm) in su 1320737;1447082169;mircea_popescu;llol 1320738;1447082175;asciilifeform;i'd never actually seen the original box these came in until now 1320739;1447082178;asciilifeform;(ebay link) 1320740;1447082180;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.QNTR << based on last statement this contract will be changed correct? 1320741;1447082198;mircea_popescu;yeah my grandparents had the box. it was fascinating because tube in tube! 1320742;1447082204;asciilifeform;stamped 'runs on alternating ~and~ direct current' 1320743;1447082206;*;asciilifeform did not know! 1320744;1447082211;mircea_popescu;yeah. 1320745;1447082227;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Seems like it would make more sense to stick the deed below the original contract on the page. 1320746;1447082228;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller probably not. 1320747;1447082245;mircea_popescu;the truth is i don't have a good solution to evolving contracts, and this is all part of exploring that space. 1320748;1447082256;mircea_popescu;there's more to lyf than just coding. not that legal documents aren't coding anyway. 1320749;1447082261;BingoBoingo;It's the incorporation papers, original kinda has to stick around 1320750;1447082265;mircea_popescu;yeah. 1320751;1447082265;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i'll buy it for you, pay me back later, if you can supply a ship point 1320752;1447082280;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, bring it along next you visit i guess ? 1320753;1447082297;mircea_popescu;i'd buy it myself but can't be arsed to handle the importation. 1320754;1447082311;asciilifeform;even import of a soviet vacuum is mega-ordeal in ar ? 1320755;1447082316;asciilifeform;from motherfucking bulgaria ? 1320756;1447082322;mircea_popescu;dollars to donuts the item also exists in argentina, but been way too lazy to go through the NUMEROUS antiguedades markets. 1320757;1447082328;asciilifeform;perhaps kakobrekla ought to try pickign it up 1320758;1447082374;asciilifeform;hard to believe it was only 390W ! 1320759;1447082390;mircea_popescu;for the noise it made... i'd have expected 1-2 mw. 1320760;1447082392;asciilifeform;aha! 1320761;1447082403;*;asciilifeform wallowz in nostalgia 1320762;1447082490;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320622 << this is how the sea works. 1320763;1447082490;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 07:58:09; punkman: "they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp." 1320764;1447082517;mircea_popescu;i get it, fucktarded narcissist generation expects the sea to how did that go, "Its unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences." 1320765;1447082529;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, the fucking point of the sea is that you get what you get not what you expect to get. 1320766;1447082557;asciilifeform;and when doesn't get, orders the sea whipped ? 1320767;1447082590;mircea_popescu;no, see, more perfidious than that (which perfidy clearly proves he is full aware of the whole stack) : he PRETENDS TO FIX IT! orders carbon credits whipped. 1320768;1447082608;mircea_popescu;same process, mentally, loads and loads and LOADS of "plausible deniability" sugar on top. 1320769;1447082678;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320627 <<< how unfortunate for them that in an entire sea of idiots either lapping up the entire protective nonsense ("don't be mean" / "privilege is bad" / "sociopaths!111 don't careabout THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES111") or else too cognitively impaired to get much further than a vague feeling of existential nausea 1320770;1447082678;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel ! 1320771;1447082691;mircea_popescu;there exists a tiny island that's perfectly equipped to laugh them into the dirt. 1320772;1447082699;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00056437 = 14.1375 BTC [+] 1320773;1447082705;mircea_popescu;if i were them i'd kill us. 1320774;1447082852;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320627 <<< transactions do not notarize documents. the final address at which the funds end up does. this is by design, and for this reason (in its general form : miners can fuck txn up, but not actually spend funds / control addresses) 1320775;1447082852;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel ! 1320776;1447082867;mircea_popescu;uh i meant http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320647 1320777;1447082867;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 11:49:35; *: adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety... 1320778;1447083164;mircea_popescu;and now, off to eat cold HOMEMADE pizza in bed. turns out i live just like a coder, the only difference being the little differences. like slave labour. 1320779;1447083172;mircea_popescu;or no. not like slave labour. like everything else but that. 1320780;1447083193;asciilifeform;'coder' eats pizza that died at least three times. 1320781;1447083195;asciilifeform;so not quite same. 1320782;1447083370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00056712 = 21.7207 BTC [+] {2} 1320783;1447083768;thestringpuller;happy birthday La Serenissima 1320784;1447083773;thestringpuller;(belated) 1320785;1447083830;shinohai;real 'coderz' eat pizza hot pockets. 1320786;1447083851;thestringpuller;shinohai: i thought that was gamers... 1320787;1447083912;shinohai;http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/09/mother-murdered-chicago-boy-defends-buying-new-car/?intcmp=trending 1320788;1447083912;assbot;Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car | Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZvezC ) 1320789;1447084374;BingoBoingo;https://i.imgur.com/MbxRK17.png 1320790;1447084375;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIGMyF ) 1320791;1447084434;BingoBoingo;https://veuwer.com/i/3cfy.jpg 1320792;1447084435;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIGSGL ) 1320793;1447084477;kakobrekla;sorry to disappoint, i have a better vacuum cleaner that that. was about same price. 1320794;1447084488;kakobrekla;than that* 1320795;1447084736;BingoBoingo;http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3957018.shtml << The face of addiction 1320796;1447084737;assbot;WNYT.com - Walmart store employee accused of stealing food ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIHgoz ) 1320797;1447085322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27656 @ 0.00056851 = 15.7227 BTC [+] {3} 1320798;1447085383;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16444 @ 0.00056889 = 9.3548 BTC [+] {2} 1320799;1447085584;BingoBoingo;https://archive.is/6DbLR 1320800;1447085585;assbot;Couple face £2,500 fine for using an anti-child gadget on 'screaming' kids | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZyStn ) 1320801;1447086234;BingoBoingo;So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping 1320802;1447086534;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b19 1320803;1447086535;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Gold to drop under $1000 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1220/gold-to-drop-under-1000-before-jan-2016/#b10 1320804;1447086542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14956 @ 0.00056941 = 8.5161 BTC [+] {3} 1320805;1447086603;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31766 @ 0.00056981 = 18.1006 BTC [+] 1320806;1447087152;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53331 @ 0.00056981 = 30.3885 BTC [+] 1320807;1447087265;mircea_popescu; Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car << i thought muricans loved cars. 1320808;1447087268;mircea_popescu;love envy moar ? 1320809;1447087306;BingoBoingo;of course 1320810;1447087329;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo doh. 1320811;1447087370;mircea_popescu;"people". who the fuck cares what the dead people say. 1320812;1447087457;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68950 @ 0.00056996 = 39.2987 BTC [+] {4} 1320813;1447087627;BingoBoingo;ghosts? 1320814;1447088347;deedbot-;[Qntra] Wolfe Resigns At Mizzou Surrending To Pressure - http://qntra.net/2015/11/wolfe-resigns-at-mizzou-surrending-to-pressure/ 1320815;1447088404;BingoBoingo;title fxd 1320816;1447089098;BingoBoingo;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rumblr-tinder-fighting-app-launch-beta-nov-9-article-1.2427623 1320817;1447089098;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NEXV6N ) 1320818;1447089324;punkman;http://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/564075b19dd7cc24008c829c-868-883/screen%20shot%202015-11-09%20at%2010.29.31%20am.png 1320819;1447089325;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XZOBNP ) 1320820;1447089369;punkman;BingoBoingo: lol, not bad 1320821;1447089776;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60050 @ 0.00057021 = 34.2411 BTC [+] {3} 1320822;1447090846;BingoBoingo;http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/cell-phone-may-be-involved-in-cryotherapy-death.html 1320823;1447090847;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XZRApg ) 1320824;1447091117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25190 @ 0.00056935 = 14.3419 BTC [-] 1320825;1447091239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31815 @ 0.00056889 = 18.0992 BTC [-] {3} 1320826;1447091832;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1320827;1447091874;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320822 << the $64k question, of course, is: did the coroner whack the ln2'd stiff with a little hammer, like a sausage in physics school ? 1320828;1447091874;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 17:40:46; BingoBoingo: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/cell-phone-may-be-involved-in-cryotherapy-death.html 1320829;1447092000;phf; http://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/564075b19dd7cc24008c829c-868-883/screen%20shot%202015-11-09%20at%2010.29.31%20am.png << http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/images/HodgePodge.gif 1320830;1447092000;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1XZOBNP ) 1320831;1447092001;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NF56M9 ) 1320832;1447092049;mircea_popescu;o look at that, "Central bank and government combined balance sheet" 1320833;1447092062;mircea_popescu;ie, state ownership of [what's left of the] economy ? 1320834;1447092063;mircea_popescu;aww. 1320835;1447092118;mircea_popescu;in fairness all soviets to date pretended that they are special, and all the other failures of socialism were due to you know, those not being real socialism. this is the first pass around the stupid block when the supreme soviet actualy claims it's not doing socialism at all. 1320836;1447092131;mircea_popescu;what a great plan, how could it fail! 1320837;1447092276;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00055399 = 20.83 BTC [-] {5} 1320838;1447092473;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: hey it's already a command economy 1320839;1447092496;ascii_field;(at least on this side of the atlantic) 1320840;1447092504;mircea_popescu;yeah, just moving into the blessed state where the commands no longer do anything. 1320841;1447092632;*;ascii_field still astounded by the sheer genius of the ln2 suicide machine 1320842;1447092652;ascii_field;it just needs an ultrasonic thing to powder the icicle 1320843;1447092675;*;ben_vulpes waves from the small and unimportant parts 1320844;1447092702;mircea_popescu;lol are you in the tonsils ? 1320845;1447092729;ascii_field;and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere 1320846;1447092875;ben_vulpes;http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/132846994134/having-10-female-visitors-on-devopsreactions 1320847;1447092876;assbot;Having 10% female visitors on devopsreactions - DevOps Reactions ... ( http://bit.ly/1NF85Ec ) 1320848;1447092883;*;ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils" 1320849;1447092891;ascii_field;wut 1320850;1447092897;ben_vulpes;maybe the appendix 1320851;1447092938;ascii_field;also how in satan's name does 'google analytic' or anything like it have any notion of sex or other biographical minutiae ? 1320852;1447092943;mircea_popescu;jesus what is this retarded shit. the gender gap ? on tumblr ? 1320853;1447092947;mircea_popescu;as reported by google ? 1320854;1447092964;mircea_popescu;where is that ultrasonic freezer ray or what was it. 1320855;1447092986;mircea_popescu;ascii_field "useless information is worse than no information, because idiots will now think they know something" 1320856;1447093007;ascii_field;i get the chumpatronic aspect, but find it hard to believe that anyone could be fooled 1320857;1447093056;ascii_field;it has to be one of those item built specifically for the eager self-deluded 1320858;1447093059;mircea_popescu;nobody needs to actulaly be fooled. just as long as they keep churning out this sort of crud and it's being reacted to, it's really no different from the idiot who "ai"replies to emails and imagines that this imbalance of power with his readership is useful to him 1320859;1447093082;punkman;question is why isn't tumblr raging against binary gender web analytics 1320860;1447093083;mircea_popescu;same exact fucking process, in the words of carlin, "a group of people trying to fuck each other a little deeper, a little faster, every time". 1320861;1447093093;ascii_field;and now when ben_vulpes asks me about 'why is www dev work satanic' i can also link to this thread. 1320862;1447093095;mircea_popescu;ascii_field incidentally, you know the joke with the two jews and the piece of dog turd ? 1320863;1447093103;ascii_field;the one that is eaten for free ? 1320864;1447093123;mircea_popescu;yes. 1320865;1447093131;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2013#422029 1320866;1447093131;assbot;Logged on 15-12-2013 01:16:17; asciilifeform: two drunks each pay the other $100 to eat spoon of shit. 1320867;1447093150;mircea_popescu;that's exactly "us economy|" : i will eat your moderately stinky shit and call it hamburger if you eat this very runny shit and call it a slurpee. 1320868;1447093163;mircea_popescu;this is "economic growth" to these muppets. 1320869;1447093201;mircea_popescu;and the problem is insoluble, because shit drives away the food. 1320870;1447093210;ascii_field;when it's this XOR wagner'n'cyanide time, most folks pick the former 1320871;1447093236;mircea_popescu;and even when it isn't. 1320872;1447093256;mircea_popescu;kid getting to choose college will predictably not go to the one that actually teaches something. 1320873;1447093283;ascii_field;l0l where's that 1320874;1447093303;mircea_popescu;used to be. their slow death was chronicled in that brit's piece linked in the log on occasion. 1320875;1447093311;ascii_field;ah, them! 1320876;1447093321;*;ascii_field went to the tail end of something quite like it 1320877;1447093329;ascii_field;iirc phf also did 1320878;1447093346;mircea_popescu;by now, obviously kid is more likely to "go to college" than summon up his entire extended family and make each person eat some of his shit at a great family reunion, "because you people suck" 1320879;1447093392;mircea_popescu;"no mom, i'm not holding a wedding. i'm holding a "you people suck" party, attendance is mandatory, and you will all have to delight in my excrement while telling me how just like pork and beans it tastes" 1320880;1447093402;mircea_popescu;because sure as hell i'm not doing it to your dumbass excrement. 1320881;1447093472;mircea_popescu;i don't suppose a generation war - in the proper, 20th century sense, with mass rapes, mass graves and concentration camps - was ever this morally necessary. forget justified, it's not that it's justified, it is that it's a sine qua non mandatory requirement, just like hanging the nazis. 1320882;1447093574;mircea_popescu;now consider that nero lived in very similar times, and all of a suden you might see the lad as a very heroic figure. 1320883;1447093613;*;mircea_popescu is persuaded that if he lived at that time, he would have also set rome on fire and fiddled while it burned, also made horses senators and in general, the whole nine yards. it's a historical necessity. 1320884;1447093687;jurov;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320845 << guess the result would be suitable as cow feed 1320885;1447093687;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 18:12:09; ascii_field: and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere 1320886;1447093946;ben_vulpes;such ire 1320887;1447093960;*;ben_vulpes quite pleased with the morning gifselection 1320888;1447093980;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: contrary to popular opinion i don't need much educating on the satanicity of wwwwork 1320889;1447094092;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1320890;1447094104;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: this is when i confess that i always saw n as a hero 1320891;1447094107;ascii_field;since i was a boy. 1320892;1447094126;ascii_field;and for precisely this reason. 1320893;1447094150;ascii_field;~somebody~'s gotta garbagecollect dead things. 1320894;1447094159;ascii_field;ideas, people, ..., civilizations. 1320895;1447094289;mircea_popescu;"Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me." 1320896;1447097827;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55392 @ 0.0005536 = 30.665 BTC [-] {3} 1320897;1447098380;mircea_popescu;my o my... halacious storm here 1320898;1447098383;mircea_popescu;hail and everything 1320899;1447098437;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00055283 = 34.8283 BTC [-] {2} 1320900;1447099047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44884 @ 0.00055103 = 24.7324 BTC [-] 1320901;1447100595;punkman;http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_book_of_mormon_missionary_positions_is_the_one_gay_sex_manual 1320902;1447100595;assbot;‘The Book of Mormon Missionary Positions’ is the one gay sex manual that is TOTALLY SAFE FOR WORK|Dangerous Minds ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y0h4mD ) 1320903;1447102646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48476 @ 0.00055482 = 26.8955 BTC [+] {4} 1320904;1447102707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00055104 = 18.4047 BTC [-] {2} 1320905;1447103239;fluffypony;https://i.imgur.com/iLzj23m.jpg 1320906;1447103240;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZXout ) 1320907;1447103269;shinohai;lo 1320908;1447103277;mircea_popescu;aha 1320909;1447103332;fluffypony;also this: http://www.parhlo.com/colombian-farmer-finds-pablo-escobars-600000000-buried-on-his-farm/ 1320910;1447103339;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1320911;1447103342;ascii_field;https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/nsa-ordered-stop-collecting-querying-plaintiffs-phone-records << l0lz 1320912;1447103368;ascii_field;^ usg 'plays chess with self' 1320913;1447103452;ascii_field;in other nyooz, 'Historically, NSA has released more than 91 percent of vulnerabilities discovered in products that have gone through our internal review process and that are made or used in the United States. The remaining 9 percent were either fixed by vendors before we notified them or not disclosed for national security reasons.' (from nsa.gov) 1320914;1447103470;ascii_field;as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742046 1320915;1447103470;assbot;Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.' 1320916;1447103670;ascii_field;'It's not clear what will happen to the money as of now, but many speculate that Jose Mariena Cartolos will not be allowed to keep the money and it will be taken by the Colombian Government and probably spent on improving the life of poor farmers all over the country.' << l0l, oughta have found a bitcoin pit instead ? 1320917;1447103744;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46050 @ 0.00055104 = 25.3754 BTC [-] 1320918;1447103916;ascii_field;but yes, iirc we had a thread where i noted that if i were to find a 747 packed with benjies in my back yard, it would make no measurable difference in my standard of living and would in fact be at least annoying 1320919;1447103970;ascii_field;see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1249081 1320920;1447103970;assbot;Logged on 22-08-2015 22:07:45; mircea_popescu: for the record, it's not even clear moving from bearer to certified insturment is anti-liberty. for insmtance - hansa used the certifierd instrument greatly, because as a merchant, giving your son a plain "pay the bearer so much silver upon presentation of this note in such town" was merely an invitation to any highwayman on route to "please fuck this young man in the ass and here's the pay for your 1320921;1447104237;thestringpuller;ascii_field: cause you don't know how to launder money? 1320922;1447104255;ascii_field;thestringpuller: 'don't know' doesn't begin to describe it. 1320923;1447104276;thestringpuller;first step is to buy a cash business under the table like a restaurant or movie theatre or car wash 1320924;1447104281;thestringpuller;then you pad the revenue 1320925;1447104285;ascii_field;you don't get it, do you 1320926;1447104302;thestringpuller;I've been in the money laundering business from the USG side. 1320927;1447104312;thestringpuller;i guess "anti money laundering business" 1320928;1447104316;ascii_field;i couldn't so much as to buy a bottle of rotgut 'under the table' 1320929;1447104324;thestringpuller;What happens if you do? 1320930;1447104334;ascii_field;require 10,001 things that i don't have. 1320931;1447104344;ascii_field;mainly abilities/proclivities/experiences/intuitions. 1320932;1447104363;ascii_field;incl. a basic meatspace social life 1320933;1447104401;ascii_field;'i can't fly without airplane' -- 'what happens if you do?' 1320934;1447104441;thestringpuller;hmmm good point. just interesting someone as intelligent as you hasn't thought about ways to launder money. 1320935;1447104449;ascii_field;you still don't get it 1320936;1447104454;ascii_field;it isn't about ~thinking~ 1320937;1447104459;ascii_field;it is about being a certain thing 1320938;1447104470;thestringpuller;what is this "certain thing" 1320939;1447104481;thestringpuller;you don't want to cross the line of being a 'criminal'? 1320940;1447104489;ascii_field;again it isn't about 'don't want' 1320941;1447104508;ascii_field;it is about lacking the most elementary ability. 1320942;1447104514;thestringpuller;it's about you don't have access to XYZ? (aka people/tools/skills/etc. to support such a scheme" 1320943;1447104516;ascii_field;you know how some folks cannot ride a bicycle, no matter what ? 1320944;1447104517;thestringpuller;) 1320945;1447104525;thestringpuller;yes this I understand 1320946;1447104539;thestringpuller;or tone deaf person trying to play piano 1320947;1447104543;ascii_field;aha. 1320948;1447104591;thestringpuller;well if 747 crashses near you full of benjies I'll gladly take it off your hands 1320949;1447104599;lobbes;still, with an airplane full of benjies, you would at least be able to buy, say, food without raising red flags 1320950;1447104614;ascii_field;hence why i said 'no measurable difference' 1320951;1447104629;ascii_field;cost of food is rounding error where i am. 1320952;1447104653;thestringpuller;What about say a nice night with the pet at the fanciest restaurant in town? 1320953;1447104660;ascii_field;even. 1320954;1447104668;*;ascii_field prefers usually to eat at home 1320955;1447104678;thestringpuller;^- #luvit 1320956;1447105163;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1320957;1447105208;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58550 @ 0.00055028 = 32.2189 BTC [-] {4} 1320958;1447105275;jurov;it's cute how you all want to convert alf into a criminal :D 1320959;1447105305;ascii_field;hey i'm already a criminal in the sense contemplated in mircea_popescu's article re: same 1320960;1447105310;ascii_field;just, with none of the up-sides 1320961;1447105410;thestringpuller;Hey I'm down to start a crime syndicate with ascii_field ; he'd be a great brain behind the operation 1320962;1447105420;ascii_field;l0l 1320963;1447105429;thestringpuller;and then MP as the ruthless leader that no one sees 1320964;1447105443;thestringpuller;Pablo Escobar will seem tame compared to what we could do! 1320965;1447105696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00055005 = 9.4334 BTC [-] 1320966;1447105757;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00055117 = 5.0156 BTC [+] 1320967;1447105874;ascii_field;http://u.zeptobars.ru/yuot/581 << unrelated, spiffy 1320968;1447105875;assbot;Index of /yuot/581/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1O00Mp6 ) 1320969;1447105892;ascii_field;^ ic re pr0n 1320970;1447106001;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00055005 = 21.727 BTC [-] {2} 1320971;1447106932;shinohai;http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ 1320972;1447106933;assbot;Ethereum (ETH) price, charts, and info | Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pexkvq ) 1320973;1447107308;shinohai;!up ascii_field 1320974;1447107760;mircea_popescu;ascii_field which one ? criminal from at least two angles according to the very generous trilema inquisition. 1320975;1447107788;ascii_field;the one where anybody in usa, other than possibly a coma patient, is 'criminal' 1320976;1447107835;mircea_popescu;right 1320977;1447108025;lobbes;trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american << twas this one, no? 1320978;1447108032;ascii_field;it 1320979;1447108076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53415 @ 0.00054888 = 29.3184 BTC [-] {5} 1320980;1447108229;shinohai;has anyone ever made any soviet-era art of mircea_popescu? 1320981;1447108288;shinohai;propoganda posters 1320982;1447108330;mircea_popescu;not unless you count http://trilema.com/2011/fototeca-de-haur/ 1320983;1447108330;assbot;Fototeca de Haur on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvLg56 ) 1320984;1447108408;shinohai;i have never seen these jewfro pics 1320985;1447108457;thestringpuller;YES 1320986;1447108473;mircea_popescu;hehehe 1320987;1447108573;mircea_popescu;!up TravisPatron 1320988;1447108702;ascii_field;http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize-economics-bhagwan-chodry-2015-11 << apparently the joke was srs 1320989;1447108702;assbot;Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto nominated for Nobel Prize in Economics - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvM61U ) 1320990;1447108852;TravisPatron;https://diginomics.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize/ What are the chances Satoshi wins? 1320991;1447108856;assbot;Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - Diginomics ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7aiCe ) 1320992;1447108939;ascii_field;meanwhile buterin's waterfall reloaded by usg with another 44,000 btc, or so tells völkischer beobachter 1320993;1447109122;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1320994;1447109397;shinohai;was wondering where that little pump came from 1320995;1447109499;jurov;you don't take the china theory? 1320996;1447109783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00055199 = 16.7253 BTC [+] {2} 1320997;1447110217;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2015/11/wolfe-resigns-at-mizzou-surrending-to-pressure/#comment-74534 1320998;1447110218;assbot;Wolfe Resigns At Mizzou Surrendering To Pressure | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvPB8m ) 1320999;1447110368;ascii_field;http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/alexio_marziano/26796211/1505953/1505953_original.png << just like in ro, schoolgirls in su had these. never saw photo before tho 1321000;1447110369;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7doGn ) 1321001;1447110374;ascii_field;mircea_popescu ^ 1321002;1447110454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50184 @ 0.00055443 = 27.8235 BTC [+] {5} 1321003;1447111281;*;pete_dushenski is enjoying leftover, homemade mamaliga cu brinza from last night. still delicious the next day ! 1321004;1447111340;pete_dushenski;the dill's what makes this dish, though whether this is a traditional ingredient, i couldn't say 1321005;1447111417;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320669 << schadenfreudally optimistic ;) 1321006;1447111417;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 14:57:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320581 << how can it be optimism, yo ? for one thing i don't live there. for the other thing, the breakdown of their system is bad news for them. yes, it sucked, but like ankylosis, at lrast it held things together. 1321007;1447111430;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40922 @ 0.00054816 = 22.4318 BTC [-] {2} 1321008;1447111483;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320672 << this 'mobile' thing has reached the tipping point. i now have family friends in their 60s telling me not to do my banking on my 'mobile' at the local cafe lest i be cyberhacked to pieces 1321009;1447111483;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 14:58:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320593 << gee, ik dunno... wouldn't it be nice if you STOPPED WITH THE BULLSHIT MOBILE ? on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work ? 1321010;1447112223;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00054816 = 9.5106 BTC [-] {2} 1321011;1447112297;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320660 << why would you ? you wouldn't for the same reason that you wouldn't apply your own lawn pesticides : you have other people for that 1321012;1447112297;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 13:41:59; BingoBoingo: ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home? 1321013;1447112322;BingoBoingo;FU I apply my own lawn herbicides 1321014;1447112340;BingoBoingo;Also, why apply lawn pesticides? I like bees. 1321015;1447112364;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo: duh. you're not in the 1% 1321016;1447112396;BingoBoingo;Lawncare's relaxing 1321017;1447112405;pete_dushenski;http://www.lullabymilk.com/ << only monday, yes, but this is in the running for lulziest product of the week award 1321018;1447112405;assbot;lullaby milk, sleep, cows milked before daylight, melatonin ... ( http://bit.ly/1WNrL9s ) 1321019;1447112446;pete_dushenski;"Lullaby Milk only contains milk taken from the cows before daybreak. Melatonin is produced in the cows as they sleep, and so the milk produced before daybreak has naturally higher levels of melatonin." 1321020;1447112490;pete_dushenski;this is perhaps even funnier for anyone who's ever seen a baby get 'milk drunk' before passing out 1321021;1447112502;pete_dushenski;from mother's milk 1321022;1447112554;BingoBoingo;lol 1321023;1447112655;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320801 << i accidentally stumbled into #bitcoinxt for the first time this morning, only to witness exactly this, to which gavin chimed in with a 'great work toomin!' to much personal amusement 1321024;1447112655;assbot;Logged on 09-11-2015 16:23:54; BingoBoingo: So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping 1321025;1447112695;pete_dushenski;almost tempting to go back there 1321026;1447112894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18910 @ 0.00055682 = 10.5295 BTC [+] {2} 1321027;1447113015;BingoBoingo;Eh, dun you have an army of social media mercenaries to build? 1321028;1447113084;BingoBoingo;Also a bebe to raise? 1321029;1447113253;pete_dushenski;i do, i do indeed :) 1321030;1447113990;BingoBoingo;Did you start putting the bebe to work yet? 1321031;1447114043;pete_dushenski;i'm waiting until he figures out whose little baby fists keep punching him in the face. 1321032;1447114066;pete_dushenski;until he can work his way through this process of elimination, ima let kids be kids :) 1321033;1447114198;BingoBoingo;I see 1321034;1447114640;ag3nt_zer0;pete_dushenski: just wanted to say thanks for the great reads over at Contravex... also, thanks for that minor comment regarding my skills with the students that one day... it means something 1321035;1447114678;pete_dushenski;ag3nt_zer0: don't mention it 1321036;1447114706;pete_dushenski;general q : are there any documents or text floating about that were verifiably pgp-signed by satoshi ? inquiring minds... 1321037;1447114907;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00054816 = 13.8136 BTC [-] {2} 1321038;1447115613;pete_dushenski;https://grouponvouchersettlement.com/ << anyone here every tried one of these class action dealios ? 1321039;1447115640;pete_dushenski;pretty sure i'm eligible for this groupon one. i dun see why i shouldn't give it a go. 1321040;1447115822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00055682 = 5.6796 BTC [+] {2} 1321041;1447115883;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00054816 = 12.361 BTC [-] 1321042;1447116132;mircea_popescu;haha cute. 1321043;1447116182;ben_vulpes;pete_dushenski: once or twice a year i get a check for $10 or so from them. 1321044;1447116184;mircea_popescu;ascii_field www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize-economics-bhagwan-chodry <<< lmao usg trying to resurect the gavin clown ? 1321045;1447116209;mircea_popescu;hey, chances are pretty good, if obama got one, the road is open for any monkey irrespective of merit or competence. 1321046;1447116220;mircea_popescu;the nobelwood prizes! 1321047;1447116264;mircea_popescu;ascii_field> meanwhile buterin's waterfall reloaded by usg with another 44,000 btc << can't afford to lose bitbet bet :D 1321048;1447116316;mircea_popescu; the dill's what makes this dish though whether this is a traditional ingredient, i couldn't say << certainly not. 1321049;1447116333;pete_dushenski;didn't think so... but oh my was it fine ! 1321050;1447116403;pete_dushenski;anyways, the satoshi nobel thing is a few days old : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318943 1321051;1447116403;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 22:32:00; adlai: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhagwan-chowdry/i-shall-happily-accept-th_b_8462028.html "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will settle 1321052;1447116464;mircea_popescu;i really vote for gavin to do the impersonation. he's so talented for it! also has costume! 1321053;1447116465;pete_dushenski;http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1625175.ece << usually allergic to 'new' books, but this looked too interesting to pass up. 1321054;1447116466;assbot;Pavlov’s parables | TLS ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJNrsw ) 1321055;1447116487;pete_dushenski;ftr, not my review, my copy is en route 1321056;1447116501;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: you really vote ;) 1321057;1447116513;mircea_popescu;lol 1321058;1447116516;mircea_popescu;well anyway. 1321059;1447116567;pete_dushenski;ben_vulpes: hey neat 1321060;1447116567;BingoBoingo;Headline win http://investmentwatchblog.com/illinois-school-discriminated-against-male-student-by-refusing-to-let-him-shower-with-naked-girls-obamas-education-dept-rules/ 1321061;1447116582;mircea_popescu;win. 1321062;1447116786;mircea_popescu;in equally riveting news, real or fake ? http://41.media.tumblr.com/9110b350acf1bce4fdf46cf7b99aed58/tumblr_ms381lKa3V1rso06oo1_1280.jpg 1321063;1447116788;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDLAJx ) 1321064;1447116835;*;pete_dushenski sadly discovers that he's ineligible for groupon pwnage because not a resident of Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, or Washington. 1321065;1447116868;pete_dushenski;how come americans get all the breaks ? 1321066;1447117232;ben_vulpes;oh content thyself with not living in this insanely litigious 'soi-disant' state 1321067;1447117247;BingoBoingo;We don't if you take the pitty check you forfeit your right to actual compensation down th eline 1321068;1447117298;ben_vulpes;> actual compensation 1321069;1447117303;ben_vulpes;haha bb you kill me 1321070;1447117337;phf;actual compensation, flag on Reichstag? 1321071;1447117374;BingoBoingo;Seriously ben_vulpes gotta read the small print. Probably in the near future going to be disclaimers leik "By accepting this you forfeit any claims to our anus in the name of TMSR"(tm)(r) 1321072;1447117471;ben_vulpes;anyone writing contracts mentioning tmsr~ without being in the wot's looking for a paddlin 1321073;1447117524;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/#comment-34659 1321074;1447117525;assbot;It takes more than time. It takes generations. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMeqq ) 1321075;1447117526;BingoBoingo;Which is why they might start. 1321076;1447117581;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: didja use
tags ? 1321077;1447117595;asciilifeform; 1321078;1447117599;asciilifeform;*quote 1321079;1447117610;pete_dushenski;why the 'cite' ? 1321080;1447117610;ben_vulpes;quite the block, that citation. 1321081;1447117621;pete_dushenski;that mighta been the issue 1321082;1447117622;asciilifeform;b0rk3d 1321083;1447117644;pete_dushenski;i'll clean it up :) 1321084;1447117646;asciilifeform;ty 1321085;1447117689;adlai;deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1FFSQG1.txt 1321086;1447117690;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMlCn ) 1321087;1447117692;deedbot-;accepted: 1 1321088;1447117700;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321050 << aha. but when i first saw it, i thought it to be a gag 1321089;1447117700;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 00:46:43; pete_dushenski: anyways, the satoshi nobel thing is a few days old : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318943 1321090;1447117736;asciilifeform;adlai: didja make a 'deedbot-fs' and using it for backups now? 1321091;1447117739;asciilifeform;or what. 1321092;1447117764;ben_vulpes;adlai: vV? MMM? vJ? 1321093;1447117772;asciilifeform;if you wanna make him charge per kB, this is probably how. 1321094;1447117790;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: probably just trying to wind mircea_popescu up on other avenues 1321095;1447117826;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: the satoshi nobel thing is, yes, sort of a gag in the sense that browntown has 'suggested' that satoshi be nominated, not ~actually~ nominated him 1321096;1447117853;pete_dushenski;and used his position of 'suggestor' to angle for a free buck 1321097;1447117947;asciilifeform;oh for fucks sake adlai 1321098;1447118061;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/7hNKXMi 1321099;1447118062;assbot;Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMGEZ ) 1321100;1447118070;asciilifeform;was this really necessary. 1321101;1447118114;asciilifeform;^ contents of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321085 1321102;1447118114;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 01:08:09; adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1FFSQG1.txt 1321103;1447118122;ben_vulpes;phillips exeter, y'say? 1321104;1447118137;ben_vulpes;how'd you pull that out, asciilifeform? 1321105;1447118146;asciilifeform;with hands. 1321106;1447118538;asciilifeform;;;later tell adlai how do you get to be a chandrasekhar in israel ? and why so depressed. 1321107;1447118538;BingoBoingo;!up PeterL 1321108;1447118538;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321109;1447118546;BingoBoingo;!up Evolyn 1321110;1447118563;PeterL;greetings, earthlings 1321111;1447118573;BingoBoingo;Greetings our beloved cook 1321112;1447118592;asciilifeform;PeterL: greetings herr organiker 1321113;1447118593;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/#comment-34662 1321114;1447118594;assbot;It takes more than time. It takes generations. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDN86m ) 1321115;1447118634;pete_dushenski;unfortunately, that's all the time i have for now. later gents ! 1321116;1447118881;mod6;ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils" << haha. 1321117;1447119131;ben_vulpes;http://deedbot.org/bundle-375398.txt 1321118;1447119132;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDNzO1 ) 1321119;1447121321;BingoBoingo;http://takimag.com/article/mugging_me_softly_jim_goad#axzz3qgxdcog9 1321120;1447121322;assbot;Mugging Me Softly - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDPTEO ) 1321121;1447122179;asciilifeform;'When I met my friend for dinner and told him what happened, he speculated that I was being set up for a soft mugging, which is a term for when homeless people attach themselves to you and wont leave until you give them some money.' 1321122;1447122183;asciilifeform;^ i call this 'megging' 1321123;1447122186;asciilifeform;and it's a thing. 1321124;1447122276;BingoBoingo;It's totally a thing 1321125;1447122466;BingoBoingo;http://jimgoad.net/images/coexist.jpg 1321126;1447122467;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MT0CTt ) 1321127;1447122473;BingoBoingo;^ From author's site 1321128;1447123055;hanbot; I stopped, looked him straight in the eyes, and said, Whats going on here? Why are you following me? << seriously? what happened to "fuck off"? "Oh, --*-of CoUrSe-*-- I could've kung fu-ed..." but you didn't, schmuckelodeon. passive aggressive nonsense already, no wonder he's prey. 1321129;1447123196;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what was that all about ? 1321130;1447124219;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1321131;1447124225;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 376.22, vol: 30395.91427305 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 372.5, vol: 10810.3052 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 378.93, vol: 38809.47548363 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 388.0, vol: 1.39112865 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 390.635712, vol: 54732.42380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 376.50999, vol: 46.90146658 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 368.7936, vol: 126.60491756 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1321132;1447124229;mircea_popescu;megging is totally a thing, i suspect half the marriages happen thrugh that method 1321133;1447124229;BingoBoingo;;;more 1321134;1447124230;gribble;382.542538549 1321135;1447124392;hanbot;mircea_popescu well at least those marriages could be dissolved with this guy's plan. walk her up to some chicks, "listen, i know this is weird, but this woman won't leave me alone. would you stay with me a while so she'll maybe leave?" 1321136;1447124458;mircea_popescu;i give this 0.3% chances of working 1321137;1447124553;BingoBoingo;https://archive.is/JRjyE 1321138;1447124554;assbot;Why did Mike Hearn meet with the banks today? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1O0xK8P ) 1321139;1447125215;mircea_popescu;"the banks" hurrr 1321140;1447125242;mircea_popescu;these people are the same fucking idiots that created "the banks" of Bitcoin cca 2012. 1321141;1447125826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00055697 = 2.7292 BTC [+] {3} 1321142;1447125829;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/901052c0e25f7fc18afe1cb107ff2ae8/tumblr_n4xd4hNstL1qmwidzo1_400.gif 1321143;1447125830;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJZbey ) 1321144;1447125830;BingoBoingo;https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-counters-lifetime-isp-ban-by-going-public-151109/ 1321145;1447125831;assbot;RuTracker Counters Lifetime ISP Ban By Going Public - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJZaHy ) 1321146;1447125891;mircea_popescu;wtf is a "lifetime isp ban" 1321147;1447126031;ben_vulpes;"In each case, I was not the instigator, only the one who fought back. But being unapologetically white and male worked against me in every case." 1321148;1447126040;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Rand Paul will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee - http://bitbet.us/bet/1208/rand-paul-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/#b13 1321149;1447126046;ben_vulpes;whoo hoo hoo 1321150;1447126129;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Some silly eastern thing 1321151;1447126171;*;mircea_popescu wonders at just how dumb black folks in the us gotta be. seriously, a negligible minority being cast into this "infiltrated all levels of power!!!" role and they don't figure out what's next ? WAKE THE FUCK UP YO! THIS IS ~~~exactly~~~ WHAT HAPPENED OT THE JEWS, 1915-1935. 1321152;1447126458;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321129 << which that 1321153;1447126458;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 02:39:56; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was that all about ? 1321154;1447126488;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321146 << great wall 1321155;1447126488;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 03:24:51; mircea_popescu: wtf is a "lifetime isp ban" 1321156;1447126522;ben_vulpes;funny, i was just having a conversation with ladybird about how "teh h0rr0r" of the holocaust (mostly concentration camps) is the entirety of what americans are taught about wwii and hitler and de and politics of the time generally. another instance of "stealing the having been stolen from". 1321157;1447126589;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: aka 'holocaustianity' 1321158;1447126643;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you were asking re: the adlai thread: i decoded that turd he keeps deedbotting 1321159;1447126665;mircea_popescu;o.o 1321160;1447126678;mircea_popescu;gpg 0day ?? ?\ 1321161;1447126685;asciilifeform;aka base64. 1321162;1447126688;mircea_popescu;a 1321163;1447126716;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes looked surprised also, l0l 1321164;1447126743;mircea_popescu;i have no idea how the russkis imagine "great wall" works on people who follow torrents 1321165;1447126749;mircea_popescu;i mean, the peasantariat of china, ok. 1321166;1447126764;mircea_popescu;it hinders the least effort, bs approach of the ustarded "media", ok 1321167;1447126766;asciilifeform;it works on moo 1321168;1447126771;mircea_popescu;but how's this supposed to work. 1321169;1447126775;mircea_popescu;well moo's not on trackers 1321170;1447126789;asciilifeform;'omg111111 allthetorrentsareinoneplace.com is down!!111' 1321171;1447126851;mircea_popescu;you know, the one red thread here is, a certain mental pattern of the imbecile. "hearn spoke TO BANKS" says the idiot who, after asking two awkward hermit females and a distant relative, gladly reports "i asked WOMEN". 1321172;1447126858;mircea_popescu;so then "this is the website of torrents!" 1321173;1447126869;mircea_popescu;because hey, "this is place of work" and "this is paycheck" and "this is life" 1321174;1447126943;mircea_popescu;he's the same sort of idiot who parks in the nuclear core twice, ~~~discovers~~~ "nothing happened" and announces there's a conspiracy re nuclear cores to make proles believe they're bad for you when really NOTHNING HAPPENS 1321175;1447126948;mircea_popescu;he's tried twice! 1321176;1447126981;mircea_popescu;makes me think of the argentines a lot. this very speciffic "wool pulled deeply over eyes" going through things. 1321177;1447126981;asciilifeform;1,2,3,maxint 1321178;1447127028;mircea_popescu;pretty much. a deeply seated, apparently deliberate but certainly defiant opposition to data integrity. 1321179;1447127036;mircea_popescu;the meaningless-er the better-er! 1321180;1447127070;asciilifeform;anyway the situation with ru torrent bans, prosecutions of the great b00kw4r3z libraries (yes) etc. is that the copyrasts latched onto putin's 'dictatorship of the law' thing of the past decade to try to have their 'rights' 1321181;1447127098;asciilifeform;which, unknown to most western folks, include outrages like privatization of classic sov. works incl. children's items which are still ubiquitous, etc 1321182;1447127116;asciilifeform;and the public at large is largely laughing its collective arse off 1321183;1447127121;mircea_popescu;not so smart. 1321184;1447127212;asciilifeform;can't fault their logic though - if privatization of the rest of the shebang (from petro to fish) slid by without mass guillotinings, why not this. 1321185;1447127276;asciilifeform;and given as the thread holding these folks together is the particular odd notion that books, films, are entirely like petro & fish - unsurprising 1321186;1447128130;asciilifeform;in other 'news', sov era 2kB EPROMs have been regularly selling for 5 bux or so each. SOMEBODY's buying. 1321187;1447128140;asciilifeform;and there are NOT 5bux of au in there. 1321188;1447128263;phf;perhaps to mount on a wall, framed retro style? 1321189;1447128270;*;asciilifeform walked 'ebay' and similar and concluded that it is quite feasible to build whole computer, and in fact run a conveyor, out of nothing post-1990 and nothing west of bulgaria 1321190;1447128414;asciilifeform;phf: it is not uncommon for the listings to feature a link to a modern scan of the data sheet 1321191;1447128418;asciilifeform;so prolly not for wall hangings... 1321192;1447128438;asciilifeform;they get plugged in. 1321193;1447128529;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/supporting-evidence.html << spiffy orlol 1321194;1447128530;assbot;ClubOrlov: Supporting Evidence ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDXgfm ) 1321195;1447128554;asciilifeform;'A number of readers ran straight for the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Conspiracy theory is strictly a term of abuse invented by the enemies of free speech and used to try to invalidate narratives that are not officially sanctioned by the Lgenpresse (the lying press). This term fails to signify anything beyond the fact that those who use it need to be taken out to the woodshed.' << with new, shiny, teutonic fla 1321196;1447128555;asciilifeform;vour ! 1321197;1447128614;asciilifeform;'Hundreds of Magdeburg citizens affiliated on a Facebook group with the goal of creating a militia. In Barleben, according to an report by the Volksstimme, a milita was already formed and patrols the village. Around 70 citizens want to secure their village.' 1321198;1447128640;asciilifeform;'Austrian Army Major: I was at the border today: It's a war! 21 October 2015: Today is the blackest day of my life. At 11:30 I had to witness with my own eyes how around 5,000 men, all of them young and very fit, breached the Austrian border at Spielfeld, completely unopposed and unchecked.' 1321199;1447129792;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4786 @ 0.00055192 = 2.6415 BTC [-] {2} 1321200;1447129994;mircea_popescu;imo conspiracy theorism is a discrete pathology. now, that derps run off with it... sure, they run off with everything. 1321201;1447130011;mircea_popescu;but in any case, "rabbit hole" is misused in that context. 1321202;1447131377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3414 @ 0.00055042 = 1.8791 BTC [-] 1321203;1447131472;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: what kind of os would one run on that kind of hardware? old 'nixy' things? 1321204;1447132170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00056175 = 13.1169 BTC [+] {3} 1321205;1447132707;phf;perhaps http://retrodeluxe-msx.org, https://github.com/EtchedPixels/FUZIX alan cox thing, unix that targets z80, builds with pcc 1321206;1447132709;assbot;EtchedPixels/FUZIX · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/20IFRhf ) 1321207;1447133146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3967 @ 0.00055444 = 2.1995 BTC [-] {2} 1321208;1447133327;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2014#675702 << deserves tacking on of https://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/28/373 and https://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/28/375 re: alan cox 1321209;1447133327;assbot;Logged on 15-05-2014 00:24:14; mircea_popescu: in which alan cox fucks up the pty. 1321210;1447133330;assbot;LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] kdesu broken ... ( http://bit.ly/20IGXcT ) 1321211;1447133330;assbot;LKML: Alan Cox: Re: [PATCH] kdesu broken ... ( http://bit.ly/20IGXcV ) 1321212;1447133763;ben_vulpes;today i learned that one can else in a for in python 1321213;1447133766;ben_vulpes;what the shit 1321214;1447133907;phf;it's a pretty useful behavior 1321215;1447133996;ben_vulpes;oh i get it now. 1321216;1447134037;phf;like for example, for stuff in things: if right(stuff): break; else: error("can't get the right stuff") 1321217;1447134089;ben_vulpes;but that's inside out! 1321218;1447134094;phf;i think typical refactoring done elsewhere is to put the whole for loop into a small function, replace break with return and then assume that any escape out of loop is an error 1321219;1447134161;phf;or rather an escape out of loop means that nothing was found and the alternative should be taken 1321220;1447134259;phf;otherwise you need to do foo=NULL; for(...) {...}; if(!foo) { ... } 1321221;1447134261;ben_vulpes;looks like ad hoc implementation of common use cases with arbitrary language features to me, but i've also spent a bit of time with the loop macro lately 1321222;1447134269;phf;but then you potential run into sentinel issue 1321223;1447134371;ben_vulpes;i just discovered named loops and returning from inner loops to arbitrary outer loops and am just startled at this particular codification of the pattern. 1321224;1447134411;ben_vulpes;it's an interesting gem demonstrating how the design of a language determines how people think about solving problems in it. 1321225;1447134470;ben_vulpes;related: mod6 and asciilifeform's v implementations. 1321226;1447134676;phf;named loops in common lisp? i don't actually know the feature 1321227;1447134711;phf;but speaking of v.pl, lines 92-102, is precisely that pattern 1321228;1447134749;ben_vulpes;yeah, using variables. 1321229;1447134757;ben_vulpes;the else thing just threw me. 1321230;1447134804;ben_vulpes;(loop named foo ... (loop named bar ... (return-from foo thinger)) 1321231;1447134913;phf;in fact in v's case $verified serves no other purpose, but to do the whole for:else: 1321232;1447134936;ben_vulpes;exactly. 1321233;1447135021;phf;oh yeah, re lisp, i've not had a chance to use it, but i'm pretty sure i have a bunch of code that does (loop .. do (catch :foo ... (loop ... (throw :foo ...))) 1321234;1447135038;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9807 @ 0.00054864 = 5.3805 BTC [-] {2} 1321235;1447135059;phf;probably can be cleaned up, but where's that catch being interpolated when you do (loop named foo...) 1321236;1447135071;ben_vulpes;interpolated? 1321237;1447135102;phf;placed in the form that's the result of macro expansion of loop 1321238;1447135158;phf;oh, it's placed around, so (loop named foo ...) == (block foo (loop ...)) 1321239;1447135312;phf;ok, on this incoherent note, i'm going to sleep 1321240;1447135320;ben_vulpes;ah, blocks under the hood 1321241;1447135327;ben_vulpes;i've not touched blocks yet. 1321242;1447135357;phf;ben_vulpes: yeah, you can do macroexpand on loop to see what's going on underneath, though it's probably least readable macroexpansion 1321243;1447139546;punkman;bon dia 1321244;1447139991;punkman;http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/release/archive/2015/one-degree 1321245;1447139992;assbot;Global temperatures set to reach 1 °C marker for first time - Met Office ... ( http://bit.ly/1MTw97M ) 1321246;1447140121;punkman;https://news.artnet.com/people/pyotr-pavlensky-fire-russian-security-headquarters-358952 1321247;1447140123;assbot;Artist Sets Fire to Russian Security Headquarters - artnet News ... ( http://bit.ly/1iPNX5s ) 1321248;1447142480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25375 @ 0.00054816 = 13.9096 BTC [-] {2} 1321249;1447146627;shinohai;http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/09/sean-parker-social-media-facebook <<< also the Sun is hot. More at Eleven. 1321250;1447146628;assbot;Sean Parker on tech industry's 'tricks': 'Social media feeds our narcissism' | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBdOfL ) 1321251;1447146737;punkman;http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/airplane-maintenance-disturbing-truth travel by boat an increasingly attractive proposition 1321252;1447146737;assbot;The Disturbing Truth About How Airplanes Are Maintained Today | Vanity Fair ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBdZry ) 1321253;1447146867;shinohai;Perhaps there are equally disturbing truths concerning boat maintenance somewhere. 1321254;1447147866;BingoBoingo;Overheated, core breach https://archive.is/LM8SF 1321255;1447147867;assbot;Missouri protesters force media out of “safe space” quad. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBfVjM ) 1321256;1447150044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8249 @ 0.00054804 = 4.5208 BTC [-] 1321257;1447154192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00054804 = 3.7541 BTC [-] 1321258;1447158706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00054804 = 4.8228 BTC [-] 1321259;1447162161;punkman;https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/czur-scanner-build-your-own-digital-library 1321260;1447162163;assbot;Czur scanner : build your own digital library | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mxt6jw ) 1321261;1447162216;copypaste;Cool, an affordable book scanner 1321262;1447162252;copypaste;I've seen current professional book scanners, they are huge and cost $10K USD minimum 1321263;1447162284;copypaste;Oh, actually, it's not that impressive. 1321264;1447162318;copypaste;I thought it had all the moving parts of a pro one; automatic page turning and so on 1321265;1447162418;punkman;page turning is tricky indeed 1321266;1447162503;copypaste;punkman: http://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-PA03641-B005-Document-Scanner/dp/B00FPW9946 1321267;1447162505;assbot;Amazon.com: Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner: Electronics ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mxu13k ) 1321268;1447162509;copypaste;color me unimpressed 1321269;1447162540;copypaste;this Fujitsu product has been out a year already, and since it's not a KickStarter there's actually a chance of getting what you ppaid for ;) 1321270;1447162551;punkman;yeah this design seems nice for quick document scanning 1321271;1447162616;punkman;the foot pedal seems like a nice touch on the Czur 1321272;1447162773;copypaste;And here is a pro book scanner like Google would use for their Books service https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdipuAuWsEs 1321273;1447162774;assbot;ScanRobot 2.0 MDS: Scanning very thick books up to 15 cm (6 inch) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxuN0h ) 1321274;1447162787;copypaste;i doubt they needed that much money just to make a foot pedal 1321275;1447162820;copypaste;I am again thoroughly convinced that KickStarter is nothing more than a platform for clueless derps to make money on even more clueless derps 1321276;1447162930;copypaste;well, maybe it's a good thing for Communist countries. It gives people something to do. 1321277;1447162938;copypaste;"Your job is to turn pages and press a red button." 1321278;1447162942;copypaste;"Da" 1321279;1447163342;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00054798 = 9.6718 BTC [-] {2} 1321280;1447164440;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00054875 = 4.9936 BTC [+] 1321281;1447165660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25407 @ 0.00054656 = 13.8864 BTC [-] {3} 1321282;1447168198;thestringpuller;anyone in china that can do me a solid? 1321283;1447168377;jurov;a what? 1321284;1447168485;*;shinohai actually wishes he was in China. 1321285;1447169269;thestringpuller;"BitPay and Coinbase are forward-thinking companies." My lulz for the day are complete. 1321286;1447169336;punkman;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10745009/The-desperate-tactics-being-used-to-avoid-inheritance-tax.html 1321287;1447169337;assbot;The desperate tactics being used to avoid inheritance tax - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmUMNC ) 1321288;1447169356;punkman;"A wealthy, elderly man, for example, could technically marry the father of his daughter’s children. This would enable an estate of any size to pass tax-free into the next generation on the older man’s death. After his elderly “husband” had died, of course, the younger man would be free to marry the daughter, with the estate thus secured intact." 1321289;1447170243;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321203 << a unix or any other multitask os, on an 8-bit box with no mmu, running at a few MHz - would be a sad joke 1321290;1447170243;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 04:57:52; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what kind of os would one run on that kind of hardware? old 'nixy' things? 1321291;1447170250;asciilifeform;(though yes, it is physically possible) 1321292;1447170270;asciilifeform;so no, this would not be your pc, it would be a machine with a specific purpose 1321293;1447170291;asciilifeform;ideally, a purpose that fit into 64kB of z80. 1321294;1447170347;asciilifeform;(and i anticipate that somebody will mention bank switching. ahahaha. tricks like that demolish the already unenviable performance of such a box) 1321295;1447170431;asciilifeform;so, a 'soviet' comp built in 2015 would have to have a very specific purpose in life. e.g., xoring serial stream with a onetimepad stored on magnetic tape, or the like. 1321296;1447170522;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321246 << can't wait for the 'hyooooooman rightz!!!!111' nato bootlicks to help this fella emigrate to usa and practice his fascinating 'art' in washington. 1321297;1447170522;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 07:22:01; punkman: https://news.artnet.com/people/pyotr-pavlensky-fire-russian-security-headquarters-358952 1321298;1447170569;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321262 << and they don't flip pages, either 1321299;1447170569;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 13:30:52; copypaste: I've seen current professional book scanners, they are huge and cost $10K USD minimum 1321300;1447170587;asciilifeform;at least not the $15k one i used some years ago 1321301;1447170618;asciilifeform;today i use a tripod and ordinary digital cam, similar to how old-time spies used 'minox' 1321302;1447170620;asciilifeform;it works fine. 1321303;1447170671;asciilifeform;scanning books is very tedious work, but it is important to remember that: 1321304;1447170679;asciilifeform;1) there are NOT so many books worth keeping! 1321305;1447170681;asciilifeform;and 1321306;1447170689;asciilifeform;2) NOBODY ought to have to do this twice 1321307;1447170716;asciilifeform;which is why a proper w4r3z infrastructure is essential. folks will scan if they have some notion that the result will be taken up and live. 1321308;1447170747;asciilifeform;for completeness, and because mircea_popescu is asleep, i will mention the third, 1321309;1447170775;asciilifeform;3) could always just decide that books are for the birds, and that the congo is an acceptable standard of civilization. 1321310;1447170817;asciilifeform;3 comes with risks though. 1321311;1447170893;thestringpuller;i choose 3 1321312;1447170943;thestringpuller;so BIP-65 adoption may kill XT if it's not merged in 1321313;1447170959;thestringpuller;since BIP-65 and BIP-101 are incompatible in practice 1321314;1447171214;mircea_popescu;say my name say my name 1321315;1447171216;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgd6MccwZc 1321316;1447171217;assbot;Destiny's Child - Say My Name (Official Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmXJhd ) 1321317;1447171360;thestringpuller;today i learned that mircea_popescu listens to destiny's child 1321318;1447171378;thestringpuller;yesterday I learned what he looked like as a child 1321319;1447171382;thestringpuller;i wonder what I'll learn tomorrow 1321320;1447171423;*;jurov googled bip-65 , first cam giihub, second one qntra. wd! 1321321;1447171462;mircea_popescu;i wonder what the libtards will do when they discover the machines actually like their enemies much better than them 1321322;1447171605;thestringpuller;iirc from terminator that's when we start time traveling? 1321323;1447172248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21252 @ 0.0005509 = 11.7077 BTC [+] {5} 1321324;1447172489;mircea_popescu;heh 1321325;1447172561;punkman;https://twitter.com/jvaleski/status/663870880448012288 1321326;1447172642;punkman;in other news https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTdlU35U8AEGGI4.jpg:large 1321327;1447172642;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1MJ5sMH ) 1321328;1447172728;mircea_popescu;sweet. 1321329;1447173167;mircea_popescu;who the hell is she ? i have this unshakable impression of knowing the girl 1321330;1447173198;punkman;remy lacroix, she gets around 1321331;1447173206;mircea_popescu;oh right 1321332;1447174351;asciilifeform;recent wash., d.c. lulz for mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/GratyXB.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/2zAYWDJ.jpg 1321333;1447174352;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HuR9iw ) 1321334;1447174353;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HuR9iE ) 1321335;1447174746;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol, recall the indian kid ? with an idea ? for an app ? 1321336;1447174764;asciilifeform;can't say that i do.. 1321337;1447174778;asciilifeform;and doesn't every indian kid 'have idea for app' 1321338;1447174784;mircea_popescu;o was such a great thread. lemme fish it out. 1321339;1447174827;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/ << log link y compris. 1321340;1447174828;assbot;"You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLBmfH ) 1321341;1447175430;asciilifeform;the 2nd photo is even lulzier 1321342;1447175443;asciilifeform;so much braindamage packed into one ad 1321343;1447175468;mircea_popescu;why ? 1321344;1447175528;asciilifeform;'each gift helps outfit a woman for her interview' 1321345;1447175589;asciilifeform;sorta implies that there is this silent mass of downtrodden mill gurlz or somesuch who could have the coveted american dream (tm) Respectable Job, if only she could afford a new skirt... 1321346;1447175646;mircea_popescu;nah 1321347;1447175652;mircea_popescu;you don't understand how the ring works. 1321348;1447175656;asciilifeform;and that the moneyed ladies who buy ersatz chocolate in a train station for the cost of its weight in plutonium, ought to pay for this 1321349;1447175676;mircea_popescu;it's not a practical matter. it's that if you give a woman a token she can fix her grip on, she'll be less anxious and more confident 1321350;1447175682;asciilifeform;which ring? the 'one ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind'em' ? 1321351;1447175685;mircea_popescu;think baby in bath situation. needs your finger! FOR BALANCE!!1 1321352;1447175798;mircea_popescu;so, give her this supervaluable unique important trinket that can focus the love and good will of the community for her. 1321353;1447175822;mircea_popescu;it's there in mythology as well, for the 50% of the heroic population that's battling cunted demons in their head. 1321354;1447176048;asciilifeform;baby in the bath wants finger, but won't grab the faucet - how does the charity thing work 1321355;1447176059;asciilifeform;where is the 'human element' or whatnot 1321356;1447176085;asciilifeform;or do i just lack the necessary lsd here. 1321357;1447176173;mircea_popescu;you don't see how the charity aspect actually strengthens it ? 1321358;1447176185;mircea_popescu;"he doesn't love me, he just likes my tits, doesn't count." 1321359;1447176186;asciilifeform;precisely 1321360;1447176193;mircea_popescu;"these people don't even know me! IT MUST BE FOR THE REAL ME" 1321361;1447176205;asciilifeform;ah, and the charity 'could not possibly like my tits,' ergo - genuine ..? 1321362;1447176220;mircea_popescu;which, in the kind of the sort of woman that doesn't even own her own suit, is precisely how it goes. "real me = motherhood" or some bs. 1321363;1447176228;asciilifeform;'it must be ~ME~!111!, couldn't possibly be my mass in pork !' 1321364;1447176253;mircea_popescu;aha. 1321365;1447176266;mircea_popescu;anyway, the 2nd add is very well done, i wouldn't negrate the author 1321366;1447176270;mircea_popescu;even tho they're an advertiser. 1321367;1447176378;jurov;http://echtlustig.com/6429/weltneuheut--der-schnurlose-duschkopf lmao 1321368;1447176379;assbot;Weltneuheut - Der schnurlose Duschkopf | echtlustig.com - Lustige Bilder, Lustige Videos und Picdumps die dich zum Lachen bringen ... ( http://bit.ly/1PAkGJ7 ) 1321369;1447176412;asciilifeform;https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CS9akt-WUAA8LZU.mp4 1321370;1447176413;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PAkOs3 ) 1321371;1447176519;mircea_popescu;(the above is, incidentally, the whole reason and rationale of the diamond ring, and the fact this point is never made in oh-so-edgy and libertarded discussions of the habit plainly indicates for me just how much of women do the incels in question understand, and what miserable family heads they;'d make. 1321372;1447176547;mircea_popescu;not yet old enough to own his own goat, something pashtun kid passed with flying colors age 11. but hey, maybe "we" "need" to spend more on "education". clearly it's been doing wonders for them.) 1321373;1447176565;mircea_popescu;anyway, bbl. 1321374;1447176689;shinohai;https://wiki.peercointalk.org/index.php?title=Peercoin_blockchain_fork_of_2015-11-09 <<< kek 1321375;1447176690;assbot;Peercoin blockchain fork of 2015-11-09 - Peercoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1PAlA8q ) 1321376;1447176758;jurov;btw, bitmonero is going to hardfork, too 1321377;1447177350;funkenstein_;is that a repeat of the block 168000 fork? 1321378;1447177896;funkenstein_;maybe not exactly the same but appears to also be related to dynamic linking to whatever happens to be there in openSSL 1321379;1447183089;shinohai;http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/10/us-hacking-indictment-idUSKCN0SZ1VM20151110 1321380;1447183089;assbot;U.S. charges three in huge cyberfraud targeting JPMorgan, others| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1knkrpx ) 1321381;1447183212;asciilifeform;preeeet! 1321382;1447184753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00055308 = 1.3158 BTC [+] 1321383;1447184875;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00054816 = 1.7541 BTC [-] {2} 1321384;1447186572;BingoBoingo; I thought it had all the moving parts of a pro one; automatic page turning and so on << Faster still is cutting the spine off of book and using sheet fed scanner 1321385;1447186603;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: generally, the books for which this option is attractive are ~already~ on warez 1321386;1447186653;asciilifeform;and otherwise you're nuking something worth 300-500 usd 1321387;1447186658;asciilifeform;(depending on the b00k) 1321388;1447186713;BingoBoingo;Also for that purpose get the trade paperback of the book. 1321389;1447186728;asciilifeform;again those tend to be findable in clean scan ALREADY 1321390;1447186745;asciilifeform;and/or being pablum that isn't worth scanning to begin with 1321391;1447186754;BingoBoingo;Page numbering gets fucked in mass market paperback 1321392;1447186783;asciilifeform;(if nobody scans '50 shades of shit' or whatnot - it'll be a ~better~ future) 1321393;1447186875;BingoBoingo; btw, bitmonero is going to hardfork, too << Up to twice a year 1321394;1447186891;jurov;rly? lol 1321395;1447186892;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: that's pretty ingenius. going to tell people that next time someone asks me how to "scan a book" 1321396;1447186920;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: generally, the books for which this option is attractive are ~already~ on warez << Sure 1321397;1447186958;BingoBoingo; and otherwise you're nuking something worth 300-500 usd << For this you want a sewn hardcover to unsew, or a page flipping monkey 1321398;1447186984;BingoBoingo;jurov: Yeah, It's what got MP disinterested 1321399;1447187168;BingoBoingo; again those tend to be findable in clean scan ALREADY << But yes, reason these are available in clean scan is exactly not fancy "book scannzors" but likely sensible people who know to lop the spine off and just do the sheetfed thing. 1321400;1447188962;BingoBoingo;for mircea_popescu http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/covlin-attempted-marry-teen-daughter-prosecutors-article-1.2428476 1321401;1447188962;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y2Uhql ) 1321402;1447189714;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: actually not a single one of my ru scans looks like the result of cutting spine & sheetfed 1321403;1447189734;asciilifeform;i suspect that partly it is a cultural thing 1321404;1447189757;asciilifeform;but partly that you don't nuke something that nobody will be making any more of, and which you ~like having~ enough to want to go through the bother of a scan 1321405;1447190794;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to drop under $190 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1210/bitcoin-to-drop-under-190-before-jan-2016/#b16 1321406;1447193058;thestringpuller;so for now one buy 2 copies of everything 1321407;1447193064;thestringpuller;one to gut one for collecting 1321408;1447193163;mircea_popescu;wait why for me ? 1321409;1447193365;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321251 << in honesty i never quite understood the "scrap boats" thing in the 30s/40s. or rather, why in the 50s they didn't fix it. 1321410;1447193365;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 09:12:17; punkman: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/airplane-maintenance-disturbing-truth travel by boat an increasingly attractive proposition 1321411;1447193381;mircea_popescu;ok, so via plane you get there faster. whatever. what if you're not the sort of infantile imbecile that has to get places fast ? 1321412;1447193403;mircea_popescu;what if what's important is to get there with three women and a library in woprking order, while having your evening port in comfort ? 1321413;1447193411;BingoBoingo;Boat can have problems too 1321414;1447193447;mircea_popescu;sure. but on the speed/size continuum all choices are arbitrary. you don't don a spacesuit to be shot to new york. 1321415;1447193459;mircea_popescu;maybe i want to travel in no less than 1k sqft. 1321416;1447193532;BingoBoingo;;;google edmund fitzgerald 1321417;1447193532;gribble;S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald Online: ; SS Edmund Fitzgerald - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; 40 years ago, the 'Witch of November' sank the Edmund Fitzgerald: 1321418;1447193551;mircea_popescu;"In a truly weird turn, the Mizzou story now seems to have rotated into a battle between activists and another Mizzou institution: the media." 1321419;1447193558;mircea_popescu;lmao, the media is "a mizzou institution" ? 1321420;1447193562;mircea_popescu;the media's everyone's enemy, doh. 1321421;1447193568;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321411 << now we know why atomic dirigible !! 1321422;1447193568;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 22:09:41; mircea_popescu: ok, so via plane you get there faster. whatever. what if you're not the sort of infantile imbecile that has to get places fast ? 1321423;1447193589;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but you understand how every urgency is the result of bad design, right ? 1321424;1447193596;mircea_popescu;the person who's always in a rush is simply stupid by another name., 1321425;1447193607;asciilifeform;or slave 1321426;1447193610;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b58 1321427;1447193628;BingoBoingo; lmao, the media is "a mizzou institution" ? << "Top Journalism School"(TM)(R) 1321428;1447193671;BingoBoingo;The j-school's building is probably in the best location on campus 1321429;1447193686;mircea_popescu;heh 1321430;1447193704;mircea_popescu;see, libtard camp falling over itself on the score of "who shall profit from this event". 1321431;1447193736;BingoBoingo;Seriously 1321432;1447193753;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321275 << no, that's "america". 1321433;1447193753;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 13:40:20; copypaste: I am again thoroughly convinced that KickStarter is nothing more than a platform for clueless derps to make money on even more clueless derps 1321434;1447193793;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321288 << word. 1321435;1447193793;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 15:29:16; punkman: "A wealthy, elderly man, for example, could technically marry the father of his daughter’s children. This would enable an estate of any size to pass tax-free into the next generation on the older man’s death. After his elderly “husband” had died, of course, the younger man would be free to marry the daughter, with the estate thus secured intact." 1321436;1447193808;mircea_popescu;the consequences of the derps "revolutionizing" things are always this one and the same. 1321437;1447193838;mircea_popescu;not "technically" and not "desperate". the word is "in yo' face, foos!" and "you are poor for a reason, and that reason is you suck." 1321438;1447194016;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321306 << books, not even once. 1321439;1447194016;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 15:51:29; asciilifeform: 2) NOBODY ought to have to do this twice 1321440;1447194021;mircea_popescu;they shouldn't have been fucking books in the first place. 1321441;1447194028;mircea_popescu;dumbass process from hell. write a blog already. 1321442;1447194092;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: like it or not, just about everything worth knowing at present is ONLY on dead tree 1321443;1447194096;asciilifeform;not even in a live head anywhere. 1321444;1447194111;asciilifeform;sorta like it's the year 1000 again. 1321445;1447194139;jurov;;;ticker 1321446;1447194140;gribble;Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 335.0, Best ask: 335.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 335.0, 24 hour volume: 77100.43220391, 24 hour low: 330.51, 24 hour high: 384.44, 24 hour vwap: None 1321447;1447194238;*;mircea_popescu is in principle opposed to scanning books for the same reason he was against the "preservation of historical buidlings" in http://trilema.com/2009/el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha-si-conul-andrei-pippidi/ (and summarized in http://trilema.com/2009/n-am-putea-sa-avem-si-noi/#selection-49.186-53.326 ) 1321448;1447194239;assbot;El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha si conul Andrei Pippidi. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1iSqaln ) 1321449;1447194240;assbot;N-am putea sa avem si noi on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1iSqalr ) 1321450;1447194281;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you could wait 10,000 years for it all to get rediscovered but IT'S GONNA END UP IN BOOKS AGAIN 1321451;1447194283;asciilifeform;forfuckssake 1321452;1447194329;mircea_popescu;ie, there, "it's not the job of the state to protect the cultural patrimony OF INDIVIDUALS and their clans ; if those individuals and clans are so degenerate, bankrupt and chlorotioc as to no longer be able to protect their heritage, let the worms havce it. no, not even for comunist metaphisics ; no, the property of x isn't "ours", no x's history isn't "ours". let them uphold it or let it die. 1321453;1447194340;mircea_popescu;same exact fucking thing with the books : they belong to a defeated people. 1321454;1447194344;mircea_popescu;either retel the 1321455;1447194356;mircea_popescu;either retell the books you care about or let them die. 1321456;1447194483;phf;après nous le déluge 1321457;1447194489;mircea_popescu;no. 1321458;1447194496;mircea_popescu;they lost. i didn't tell them to lose. they did it all on their own. 1321459;1447194509;mircea_popescu;unless they come back out from the graves and make books matter again, they get burried with them. 1321460;1447194540;mircea_popescu;i'm not scanning fucking accra idols, either. i piss on them instead. they make fine urinals, for a very good reason. 1321461;1447194563;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu sees no difference between, e.g., galois algebra, and an idiot idol ? 1321462;1447194576;mircea_popescu;is it in a book ? 1321463;1447194581;mircea_popescu;if it's in the logs it gets to live. 1321464;1447194591;mircea_popescu;if it's not in the log, the difference is not there. 1321465;1447194600;asciilifeform;it isn't in the log until it is. 1321466;1447194612;mircea_popescu;so put it in there. but mind what i said : RETELL. 1321467;1447194621;mircea_popescu;this is important. the defeated tribe does not get to live on through "scanning". 1321468;1447194628;asciilifeform;i can retell galois or i can $work. 1321469;1447194634;mircea_popescu;they get culturally absorbed. the price is complete and total loss of identity. 1321470;1447194647;mircea_popescu;like women marry. no rights for the people of books. 1321471;1447194659;asciilifeform;btw ru did this when it swallowed europe's maths & eng. 1321472;1447194662;mircea_popescu;right ? 1321473;1447194666;mircea_popescu;and look how well it worked. 1321474;1447194681;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, "america" (the ideal construct, that never really existed) SCANNED the fucking europe books. 1321475;1447194681;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu, i betcha you learned 'ostrogradsky's' and not 'gauss's' theorem. 1321476;1447194686;mircea_popescu;look where it's now. 1321477;1447194697;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, it was gauss'. the romanians sat omn the sidelines poking fun at the russians. 1321478;1447194706;asciilifeform;then only because of this. 1321479;1447194711;mircea_popescu;yea. 1321480;1447194758;mircea_popescu;kinda why/how that "ustards keep rebranding things" article came about. the comment in the house of mp was "check these idiots out, like the second coming of some castrated soviets" 1321481;1447195357;funkenstein_;hardcopy can survive a generation of nobody giving a shit. 1321482;1447195376;mircea_popescu;it can't survive this. 1321483;1447195412;mircea_popescu;it is culturally irrelevant now, because i expect my text searchable and my lines logged and indexed and so forth. 1321484;1447195417;mircea_popescu;there's no way for books to compete with the log. 1321485;1447195444;funkenstein_;as long as there are people of means archiving the log, i agree 1321486;1447195462;mircea_popescu;this is not a valid precondition 1321487;1447195468;mircea_popescu;as it's the precondition to culture in general. 1321488;1447195475;mircea_popescu;if there aren't, books aren't gonna MAKE THEM 1321489;1447195479;asciilifeform; it can't survive this. << this is demonstrably false. 1321490;1447195482;mircea_popescu;the us experience again is informative. 1321491;1447195492;funkenstein_;look at e.g. greek classics.. would be lost without hard copies in arabic 1321492;1447195499;asciilifeform;i personally picked up too many of these to list. and they will live for at least as long as i do. 1321493;1447195507;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ill be sure to recall this if we dispute computers in the future :) 1321494;1447195516;mircea_popescu;funkenstein_ they ARE lost. 1321495;1447195534;funkenstein_;ouch 1321496;1447195548;asciilifeform;i dug balanced ternary system out of FUCKING BOOKZ 1321497;1447195557;asciilifeform;and could have otherwise spent my whole life rediscovering it 1321498;1447195569;mircea_popescu;good for you, asciilifeform 1321499;1447195572;mircea_popescu;good for YOU. 1321500;1447195580;asciilifeform;so this is all batshit. if i need islam i know where to find it 1321501;1447195594;mircea_popescu;i dug whatever, the giving tree out of a book too. 1321502;1447195599;mircea_popescu;it sucked as i found it. 1321503;1447195628;mircea_popescu;and im not linking to the book. because, elementary, can't. because IT is fucking islam. 1321504;1447195730;mircea_popescu;(i lie, i never read the actual book, it was online or it wouldn't have existed.) 1321505;1447195772;phf;is the idea that ascii can read book, or whatever, can even give me copy to read, or whatever, but ultimately there's not going to be library of b-a, because only relevant knowledge is whatever ascii or i (in this example) say in the logs, how we got there is our own business? 1321506;1447195784;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 1321507;1447195817;mircea_popescu;to put it another way, if you think the SCANNING is time consuming you have nfi. 1321508;1447195838;phf;right 1321509;1447195846;asciilifeform;the translation, reading, GROKKING, etc. are very time consuming. i expect to spend most of my life on it. 1321510;1447195851;asciilifeform;but none of it can happen without the scanz! 1321511;1447195858;mircea_popescu;i expect you to be happy that your life ends before it. 1321512;1447195862;mircea_popescu;because... srsly, think about it. 1321513;1447196064;asciilifeform;not having to rederive, e.g., motherfucking group theory, is ~how we actually advance~. not because better classes of human were dropped down from the sky each generation, no. (quite opposite, afaik) 1321514;1447196097;jurov;yes, should we recreate everything out of orally handed first principles? 1321515;1447196112;mircea_popescu;not a matter of should. that's reallty all you got. 1321516;1447196142;mircea_popescu;not like anyone invented a substitute for actually re-derivign the whole group theory IN YOUR HEAD as part of "grokking" it. 1321517;1447196163;mircea_popescu;what barbarian apostasy is this, the talisman of book ? 1321518;1447196163;jurov;and burning the books helps how? 1321519;1447196169;asciilifeform;^ 1321520;1447196182;mircea_popescu;i only burned a coupla! 1321521;1447196203;mircea_popescu;and also they were not very good. 1321522;1447196306;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: talisman of the parachute. it's old, rat-eaten, and has ДОСААФ 1966 printed on it, but ~it's the one you're wearing~ while falling. and you can try to make a new one out of your underwear before you splat, or use that one. 1321523;1447196308;phf;well, it's very medieval idea (without the negative connotation) or reminiscent of samizdat culture. scans only come when someone asks for a scan, rather then the other way around, i.e. "archiving initiatives" 1321524;1447196339;mircea_popescu;do i look like i'm falling to you ? 1321525;1447196357;asciilifeform;no but only because 'i'm ok to ride a horse' 1321526;1447196370;mircea_popescu;what more could there be ? 1321527;1447196440;asciilifeform;i mean, this ~is~ a self-consistent thing. pashtun needs galois like a dog needs beets. 1321528;1447196460;mircea_popescu;do you need all the ars longa you don't currently have ? 1321529;1447196464;asciilifeform;but mircea_popescu for some reason is not moving to afghan, has not sold his computer, bought moar horse ? 1321530;1447196489;asciilifeform;actually yes 1321531;1447196493;mircea_popescu;aha. 1321532;1447196504;mircea_popescu;relax, alfie. you got plenty of time. 1321533;1447196507;asciilifeform;i'ma need electron beam lithography, for instance. 1321534;1447196518;asciilifeform;and possibly a bit of else. 1321535;1447196521;*;funkenstein_ once had pictures of dog eating beets. Sadly they were never put on paper so lost after a decade or so. 1321536;1447196579;asciilifeform;phf: at no point did i ever propose 'scan everything' 1321537;1447196593;asciilifeform;that'd be the braindamaged pack rat approach, and yes, it has adherents 1321538;1447196625;mircea_popescu;loot the tombs at your leisure. 1321539;1447196637;mircea_popescu;just for as long as you understand they're tombs. you don't belong there. 1321540;1447196644;asciilifeform;exactly what i was suggesting re: the scanz. 1321541;1447196648;mircea_popescu;what's that great quote... 1321542;1447196701;asciilifeform;and i think i might have once described how maths is to work should a sane computer ever be constructed 1321543;1447196706;asciilifeform;(as a demonstrable moving part of the edifice) 1321544;1447196718;asciilifeform;somewhere, in the logz 1321545;1447196720;mircea_popescu;"My companion drew in the dank, cold air of the Tomb. It seemed to... strengthen him. I stood in the doorway between Light and Dark. What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter. But that voice... was just a whisper now. As we worked our way down, deeper and deeper into the Crypt, I began to see a change in my companion. He seemed to be gaining strength. I could hardly see in the gloom, but my companion seemed t 1321546;1447196720;mircea_popescu;o know the way. We came at last to a great hall... It was then I realized my companion hadn't been gaining strength. He had been losing what was left of his humanity." 1321547;1447196771;mircea_popescu;damn the dumbass "humanity" all to hell. 1321548;1447196795;*;mircea_popescu , perfectly willing to wipe books altogether to get rid of rousseau & friendz. 1321549;1447196898;mircea_popescu;or in other words, books, much like plutonium, are liable to make your stupid and your offspring monstruous. handle with care. 1321550;1447196963;asciilifeform;does mircea_popescu have anti-rousseau spray to apply to prevent relapse ? 1321551;1447196968;mircea_popescu;mno. 1321552;1447196983;mircea_popescu;i read somewhere it can't be had. 1321553;1447196986;asciilifeform;this also is sorta what the books are for. 1321554;1447196991;mircea_popescu;mno. 1321555;1447197013;mircea_popescu;not unless you mean "cancer is also what people are for" 1321556;1447197125;phf;asciilifeform: right, i'm not arguing your original statement, just trying to understand this part of thread. if i wanted to grok electrodynamics, can get scan, or easier to just walk to friend and get landau of the shelf. doesn't matter that he has millions of other books, or that there's an archive of book scans somewhere. mp's point seems to be that the activity should be treated as tomb raiding either way, rather then "i have a 1321557;1447197125;phf;library, therefore" 1321558;1447197154;asciilifeform;phf: everybody and his mother has a copy of landau 1321559;1447197167;asciilifeform;but many of my own explorations are powered by relatively obscure works 1321560;1447197170;mircea_popescu;i just don't want the easy mistake be made where the stupidity of the children of books today is ascribed to non-bookdom. 1321561;1447197179;mircea_popescu;it is UPON THE BOOKS. they, chiefly, mostly, did this. 1321562;1447197205;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 3 y.o. finds an uzi, sprays. not the machine's fault 1321563;1447197210;asciilifeform;it's an excellent leadthrower 1321564;1447197328;asciilifeform;the other thing is that, at least from my perch, nowhere are there symptoms that the folks pushing rousseauism actually read the bloody book 1321565;1447197345;asciilifeform;idiots are perfectly able to propagate their cults without the verbatim text 1321566;1447198173;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00055289 = 2.2668 BTC [-] {2} 1321567;1447198993;punkman;asciilifeform: that'd be the braindamaged pack rat approach, and yes, it has adherents << dunno, I like archive.org 1321568;1447199411;deedbot-;[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/ 1321569;1447199504;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu mazdak, quite possibly, was 'rousseau' long before rousseau. what bookz do we blame him on ? 1321570;1447199504;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321571;1447199559;asciilifeform;unless i catastrophically misread this thread, it is almost as if mircea_popescu thought that stupidity were a ~technology~ that we'd be happily without if only some malefactor had not carefully developed it, and dropped on us, like a nuke 1321572;1447199743;BingoBoingo;;;later tell pete_dushenski Tag Heuer is more $1500 than 10 k price range 1321573;1447199743;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321574;1447199894;asciilifeform;;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/#comment-34703 1321575;1447199896;assbot;The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hw8WpF ) 1321576;1447199896;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321577;1447200175;asciilifeform;;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/#comment-34704 1321578;1447200176;assbot;The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hw9JXz ) 1321579;1447200176;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321580;1447200206;punkman;Buterin doesn't get to keep 44k btc 1321581;1447200219;asciilifeform;got private key ? could keep if he likes. 1321582;1447200225;asciilifeform;or what, coke machine ? 1321583;1447200235;punkman;he must spent it on stupid shit 1321584;1447200239;asciilifeform;'must' how ? 1321585;1447200252;asciilifeform;could move it to a fresh addr and vanish tomorrow. 1321586;1447200255;asciilifeform;like the others. 1321587;1447200264;punkman;he already had a chance to do that 1321588;1447200283;punkman;or maybe never had the keys 1321589;1447200289;asciilifeform;or. 1321590;1447200337;asciilifeform;it's a very convenient rationalization 1321591;1447200357;asciilifeform;when an idiot has xxxxx btc, 'oh but he couldn't possibly have the keyz' 1321592;1447200365;asciilifeform;why the everliving fuck not. 1321593;1447200375;asciilifeform;and SOMEBODY has the keys. 1321594;1447200409;asciilifeform;what now, all of these 'somebodies' are gurus worthy of submission and imitation ? 1321595;1447200410;punkman;somebody has, and they will spend it on eth "development", "conferences", etc 1321596;1447200420;asciilifeform;ergo not so smart. 1321597;1447200429;punkman;whoever keeps it, is smart 1321598;1447200431;BingoBoingo;Carl Mark Force Model IV has the keys 1321599;1447200443;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: iirc the moron sold it all 1321600;1447200457;asciilifeform;so he'd be a point in support of pete_dushenski's hypothesis 1321601;1447200458;shinohai;http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2015/11/10/pillow-talk-connects-distant-lovers-as-they-drift-to-sleep/ <<< sadly, people will pay to fund shit like this 1321602;1447200459;assbot;Pillow Talk connects distant lovers as they drift to sleep ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tB4k ) 1321603;1447200468;BingoBoingo;There's more of that idiot's production 1321604;1447200475;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but this is the problem of the bloody book. in "removing the requirement for a wot" it creates more problems than it resolves 1321605;1447200478;mircea_popescu;admitting it resolves any. 1321606;1447200491;asciilifeform;how does it remove ? 1321607;1447200520;mircea_popescu;and NO, idiots are not able to propagate anything without the printing press. which is why prior to it there were 5000 different idiocies summing to 0 and ever since tyhen we've been deluged in organised imbecillity. 1321608;1447200563;asciilifeform;tora/koran/et al worked fine without press. 1321609;1447200568;mircea_popescu;and yes, stupidity is a technology like any other. 1321610;1447200573;asciilifeform;schmucks sat with goose pen. 1321611;1447200692;asciilifeform;anyway, i need not-having-knuth (or table of motherfucking permeattivity constants, or landau, or,or,or,x10,000) like i need to have my arms and legs and cock chopped. 1321612;1447200698;asciilifeform;i don't see this argument going anywhere. 1321613;1447200728;mircea_popescu;i personally read mazdak as a http://trilema.com/2012/in-general-evreii-trec-drept-oameni-destepti/#selection-45.0-47.0 1321614;1447200729;assbot;In general evreii trec drept oameni destepti, on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tSEc ) 1321615;1447200755;mircea_popescu;the idea that the torah is a book is a peculiar one. 1321616;1447200758;mircea_popescu;it's a scroll. 1321617;1447200765;mircea_popescu;scrolls scan just fine. 1321618;1447200772;asciilifeform;book in general sense. 1321619;1447200779;mircea_popescu;there IS NOT SUCH A GENERAL SENSE 1321620;1447200785;asciilifeform;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTCgl3WUAAAXKjv.jpg:large (via vexual.) seems like they finally killed esp8266. 1321621;1447200786;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tXaU ) 1321622;1447200786;mircea_popescu;"usg in the general sense" 1321623;1447200821;mircea_popescu;books mean a very specific PERVERSION of culture ; much like usg is a very specific perversion of governance. 1321624;1447200829;asciilifeform;'esp32' !!111!111 now with all the bullshit you enjoyed not having in the original! 1321625;1447200854;mircea_popescu;heh. 1321626;1447200867;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i'm approximately as interested in inhabiting a world without landau as you are in inhabiting world without cunt. 1321627;1447200911;mircea_popescu;so keep it. 1321628;1447200930;asciilifeform;that's kinda what the thread was about 1321629;1447200943;asciilifeform;but then we get 'but it isn't in the logz, ergo useless' 1321630;1447200959;mircea_popescu;it is in the log via you. is it ? 1321631;1447200966;asciilifeform;not wholesale ... 1321632;1447200972;mircea_popescu;aha so then. 1321633;1447200992;asciilifeform;'Besides integrating hardware accelerators for AES and SSL....' 1321634;1447200998;mircea_popescu;loller. 1321635;1447201001;asciilifeform;'a rich peripheral interface with DMA.....' 1321636;1447201006;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 1321637;1447201007;asciilifeform;oh for fux sake 1321638;1447201017;*;mircea_popescu blames books. 1321639;1447201019;asciilifeform;RIP esp8266 1321640;1447201021;asciilifeform;we hardly knewya 1321641;1447201039;asciilifeform;now i gotta wait for mircea_popescu to teach me to make replacement for it out of horses 1321642;1447201075;mircea_popescu;"e simplu : pune coaiele pe nicolava". 1321643;1447201078;mircea_popescu;dja know the joke ? 1321644;1447201088;asciilifeform;nein 1321645;1447201139;mircea_popescu;arab guy through the desert 1321646;1447201143;mircea_popescu;camel is all slow and shit. 1321647;1447201152;mircea_popescu;sees a camel soup-up and service shop. goes in 1321648;1447201160;mircea_popescu;"do you make camels go faster ?" "aha" 1321649;1447201167;mircea_popescu;"make this one go faster then!" 1321650;1447201171;mircea_popescu;"put its ballsac on the anvil" 1321651;1447201192;mircea_popescu;the guy does, the mechanic hammers it one solidly, the camel takes off doing something between scared hare and arrow in flight 1321652;1447201204;mircea_popescu;"that's nice but... i'm still here. how do i catch it now ?" 1321653;1447201211;mircea_popescu;"put ballsac on anvil." 1321654;1447201218;trinque;lol! 1321655;1447201397;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform anyway, the thread was about you saying how nobody should have to reprocess books ; and i made the point that but for the historical accident, one wouldn't even have to process them in the first place. 1321656;1447201402;mircea_popescu;it was meant as a soothing observation. 1321657;1447201440;BingoBoingo;How does someone sooth a man with such clear and limited emotional registers? 1321658;1447201447;deedbot-;[Qntra] Preet Ups the Charges for Coin.mx Operators - http://qntra.net/2015/11/preet-ups-the-charges-for-coin-mx-operators/ 1321659;1447201453;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321379 << dja qntra that yet shinohai ? 1321660;1447201453;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 19:18:09; shinohai: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/10/us-hacking-indictment-idUSKCN0SZ1VM20151110 1321661;1447201532;BingoBoingo;shinohai: If you qntra that now make sure to include details and history. 1321662;1447201604;BingoBoingo;also shinohai if you decide to include it http://qntra.net/bundles/bharara.jpg 1321663;1447201605;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwdPz2 ) 1321664;1447201647;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321394 <<< yeah intel eventually dug out some lines ab out how "hardforking is the future" and it entirely cooled me on the notion monero has any sort of future. 1321665;1447201647;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 20:21:31; jurov: rly? lol 1321666;1447201691;BingoBoingo;https://archive.is/FEHb2 1321667;1447201692;assbot;Media must use “StopHillary” Wi-Fi password at tonight’s Republican debate | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwe1yc ) 1321668;1447201772;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2072 @ 0.00055208 = 1.1439 BTC [-] 1321669;1447201791;mircea_popescu;lol. 1321670;1447201805;mircea_popescu;they're worried about the wrong things. 1321671;1447201809;mircea_popescu;then again... republicans, right ? 1321672;1447201837;BingoBoingo;Seriously, now everybody in rf range can sniff their packets 1321673;1447201878;shinohai;You're right BingoBoingo the pic makes it 1321674;1447201897;BingoBoingo;But yes, these are typical failings of USia's other socialist party 1321675;1447202076;BingoBoingo;brb 1321676;1447202199;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00055208 = 2.5672 BTC [-] {2} 1321677;1447202504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5792 @ 0.00054816 = 3.1749 BTC [-] {2} 1321678;1447202735;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321436 << makes one wonder about all the unintended consequences of this revolution 1321679;1447202735;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 22:16:48; mircea_popescu: the consequences of the derps "revolutionizing" things are always this one and the same. 1321680;1447202789;gabriel_laddel;Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines... 1321681;1447202801;punkman;lol 1321682;1447202931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.000553 = 3.0415 BTC [+] {3} 1321683;1447203846;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7237 @ 0.00055226 = 3.9967 BTC [-] {3} 1321684;1447204031;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXC8LfnXMTs lullaby for teh little ones 1321685;1447204032;assbot;ΝΑΝΟΥΡΙΣΜΑ - ΜΑΤΩΜΕΝΟΣ ΓΑΜΟΣ 1955 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwkp8T ) 1321686;1447204140;ben_vulpes;gabriel_laddel: good afternoon to you as well 1321687;1447204280;mircea_popescu;wait wut! ? 1321688;1447204471;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-4-2015 << somewhere in there perhaps? i have nfi. 1321689;1447204474;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwlo93 ) 1321690;1447204597;punkman;hmm Uncle Vanya production is visiting, is the play any good? 1321691;1447204709;asciilifeform;punkman: what's this 1321692;1447204729;punkman;asciilifeform: which 1321693;1447204743;asciilifeform;lullaby 1321694;1447204796;punkman;from greek version of Federico García Lorca's Bodas de Sangre 1321695;1447204800;asciilifeform;ah 1321696;1447204817;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: what've you been smoking 1321697;1447204899;asciilifeform;!up gabriel_laddel 1321698;1447204911;gabriel_laddel;ty. Anyways, nothing? 1321699;1447204924;gabriel_laddel;ben_vulpes: howdy. 1321700;1447205274;ben_vulpes;hola 1321701;1447205727;*;asciilifeform observed an interesting effect. have two very similar pairs of cheapo headphones, but one emits strange scratchy sounds, other does not. then realized that it is the ~insulation on the cord~ that was at fault 1321702;1447205746;asciilifeform;one set had cloth fiber, to 'look retro' presumably 1321703;1447205764;asciilifeform;and it scratched on shirt, chair, etc. and vibration - propagates 1321704;1447205783;asciilifeform;the other, with the more ordinary smooth insulation does no such thing. 1321705;1447205840;punkman;sounds like the wire is damaged, not the insulation 1321706;1447205870;asciilifeform;brand new. 1321707;1447205875;kakobrekla;yeah cable microphonics are annoying as fuck. 1321708;1447205879;asciilifeform;nono 1321709;1447205884;asciilifeform;this is WITHOUT ANY CURRENT 1321710;1447205890;asciilifeform;as in, 100% mechanical 1321711;1447205896;kakobrekla;yeah. 1321712;1447205932;kakobrekla;seen that more that id wish to admit. 1321713;1447205940;kakobrekla;than* 1321714;1447205957;punkman;without current, like cans and string? 1321715;1447205964;asciilifeform;aha 1321716;1447205966;asciilifeform;precisely 1321717;1447205969;punkman;oic 1321718;1447205981;punkman;never seen this 1321719;1447206035;kakobrekla;prolly most headphones do this. 1321720;1447206057;asciilifeform;mno 1321721;1447206061;asciilifeform;only this set with the cloth cable. 1321722;1447206074;kakobrekla;most headphones have shitty cable. 1321723;1447206086;asciilifeform;not in this particular way. 1321724;1447206112;kakobrekla;superlux do this as well. 1321725;1447206153;kakobrekla;put them on, unplugged, move the cable, hear noise. 1321726;1447206226;asciilifeform;never before seen this. 1321727;1447206235;kakobrekla;just lucky i guess. 1321728;1447206249;asciilifeform;i've been through perhaps a hundred disposable sets 1321729;1447206252;asciilifeform;and not one did this. 1321730;1447206265;kakobrekla;very lucky. 1321731;1447206269;asciilifeform;l0l 1321732;1447206380;punkman;question is, does nobody test the things before making a full factory run 1321733;1447206388;asciilifeform;turns out not 1321734;1447206397;asciilifeform;OR, more interestingly, yes, and it doesn't matter 1321735;1447206402;asciilifeform;they laugh all the way to the bank 1321736;1447206439;asciilifeform;the cloth on the cable is a classic 'fuffle' 1321737;1447206456;asciilifeform;built to 'spray on' the appearance of quality where none exists 1321738;1447206472;asciilifeform;sorta like those weights that have - likewise - turned up in certain heaphones 1321739;1447206511;asciilifeform;which are in no actual way distinct in purpose or in effect from the weights found in fraudulent chinese hard disks 1321740;1447206515;punkman;so you think it has big magnets? 1321741;1447206527;asciilifeform;http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/china_hdd_02.jpg 1321742;1447206527;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhc5fZ ) 1321743;1447206537;asciilifeform;magnets, frame, etc. 1321744;1447206557;asciilifeform;http://www.lopanchoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/5597721.jpg 1321745;1447206559;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhc77B ) 1321746;1447206642;asciilifeform;http://izismile.com/2013/03/27/this_chinese_external_battery_is_not_what_it_5_pics.html 1321747;1447206643;assbot;This Chinese External Battery Is Not What It Seems (5 pics) - Izismile.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1QhcbnD ) 1321748;1447206643;asciilifeform;etc. 1321749;1447206681;punkman;lol, bag of sand? 1321750;1447206787;asciilifeform;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/egypt-chinese-alert-fake-pharaohs-and.html << vintage lul 1321751;1447206788;assbot;Islamization Watch: EGYPT: Chinese Alert, Fake Pharaohs and Incomplete Digital Korans Invade the Market ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhchfg ) 1321752;1447206799;asciilifeform;'China stops at nothing: incomplete digital Korans and fake pharaoh finds are invading the Egyptian market...' 1321753;1447206835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00055049 = 2.4222 BTC [-] 1321754;1447207024;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321653 << aka the alcubierre space engine 1321755;1447207024;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 00:20:11; mircea_popescu: "put ballsac on anvil." 1321756;1447207076;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321749 < just hope its not sand from fuckoshima 1321757;1447207076;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 01:51:21; punkman: lol, bag of sand? 1321758;1447208383;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 15.18664247 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b59 1321759;1447208421;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0005568 = 2.2272 BTC [+] {3} 1321760;1447208965;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.02484407 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b21 1321761;1447209580;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0005582 = 1.7304 BTC [+] 1321762;1447210115;punkman;http://blog.fastmail.com/2015/11/11/ddos-attack-may-lead-to-potential-service-disruption-this-week/ 1321763;1447210116;assbot;DDoS attack may lead to potential service disruption this week | FastMail Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLmWl5 ) 1321764;1447210211;punkman;http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/dane_geld.html 1321765;1447210212;assbot;Poetry Lovers' Page - Rudyard Kipling: Dane-Geld ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLnasd ) 1321766;1447211166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2131 @ 0.0005582 = 1.1895 BTC [+] 1321767;1447212020;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.0005582 = 1.1722 BTC [+] 1321768;1447212081;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00055803 = 2.2042 BTC [-] 1321769;1447213805;danielpbarron;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321541 << i recognize this from Diablo II 1321770;1447213805;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 23:04:08; mircea_popescu: what's that great quote... 1321771;1447214147;BingoBoingo;Is it just me, or does this feel a fuck of a lot like November 2012 1321772;1447214595;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1321773;1447214602;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 310.84, vol: 57586.89267653 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 315.0, vol: 24033.10782 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 315.24, vol: 126558.1211521 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 312.0, vol: 8.57466047 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 312.354828, vol: 109012.58450000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 310.0, vol: 181.7988342 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 320.8864, vol: 252.88649976 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 1321774;1447214605;BingoBoingo;;;more 1321775;1447214605;gribble;313.435335195 1321776;1447217144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00055802 = 1.7181 BTC [+] {2} 1321777;1447217222;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo mebbe. 1321778;1447217226;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron yep exactly. 1321779;1447217268;BingoBoingo;It's still early, but that's what the correspondence to the past is *feeling* like 1321780;1447217753;mircea_popescu;and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg 1321781;1447217755;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1SHy1zf ) 1321782;1447217886;punkman;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-10/why-alibaba-is-having-singles-day-in-beijing-for-first-time "Transactions on this year’s event passed 57.1 billion yuan ($9 billion) before midday, eclipsing the 2014 mark with another 12 hours still to go." 1321783;1447217886;assbot;Why Alibaba Is Having Singles' Day in Beijing for First Time - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwS7uW ) 1321784;1447217964;mircea_popescu;heh, their economy doesn't need stimuli ? 1321785;1447218142;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321780 << wtf is with the mag on that kalash 1321786;1447218142;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 04:55:53; mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg 1321787;1447218209;mircea_popescu;crazy shitstick ? 1321788;1447218222;asciilifeform;it's not even ~in~ 1321789;1447218240;mircea_popescu;he looks like he's carrying some spares in a bundle. 1321790;1447218243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0005505 = 1.8167 BTC [-] {2} 1321791;1447218648;BingoBoingo;There's 3 taped together there 1321792;1447218980;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo: guess i should've specified tag heuer MONACO 1321793;1447218997;pete_dushenski;this is the only watch of theirs that's ever caught my eye 1321794;1447219040;pete_dushenski;also the one tiger promoted, and thus the one that private club golfers aka 14% aka professional class aka middle-upper-class are most likely to wear 1321795;1447219043;pete_dushenski;in my experience 1321796;1447219051;BingoBoingo;Ah 1321797;1447219078;pete_dushenski;though i have to admit that i didn't realise just how much more expensive it was than 'normal' tag 1321798;1447219083;pete_dushenski;until you'd mentioned it 1321799;1447219092;pete_dushenski;like 10x eh 1321800;1447219291;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321680 << gabe, you keep track of the weirdest shit y'know 1321801;1447219291;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29; gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines... 1321802;1447219329;pete_dushenski;"120`938 days since gavin's dad porked his mom" 1321803;1447219375;pete_dushenski;"382`293 seconds since hearn put his foot in his mouth" 1321804;1447219398;pete_dushenski;"942 days since an accident in the uranium mines" 1321805;1447219483;pete_dushenski;https://archive.is/bN7tZ << "60 billion yuan will go toward a new memory chip plant, and 16.2 billion yuan toward acquisitions “upstream and downstream in the microchip supply chain.” The remaining 3.8 billion yuan will go toward Tsinghua Unigroup’s purchase of a 25% stake in Taiwan’s Powertech Technology Inc." 1321806;1447219484;assbot;China’s Tsinghua Unigroup to Build Memory Chip Factory - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1SHC1Qb ) 1321807;1447219499;deedbot-;[Trilema] Come see the retard chamber! - http://trilema.com/2015/come-see-the-retard-chamber/ 1321808;1447219727;punkman;mircea_popescu: did you find any antique vacuums? 1321809;1447220030;pete_dushenski;https://archive.is/I11Jn << "Mr. Schneiderman doesn’t see how he can prove harm from fossil fuels. So instead of RICO he appears to be focused on the Martin Act, the appalling New York state law enacted in 1921 to prosecute stock-sale boiler rooms. The Martin Act doesn’t require prosecutors to prove intent to defraud, which is why it was a favorite tool of the Empire State’s disgraced former AG Eliot Spitz 1321810;1447220031;assbot;Prosecuting Climate Dissent - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1QhmkAT ) 1321811;1447220031;pete_dushenski;er." 1321812;1447220098;pete_dushenski;http://twistedsifter.com/2015/11/if-politicians-had-man-buns/ << #6 ftw (looks like beckham's 'do) 1321813;1447220099;assbot;If Politicians Had Man Buns (27 Photos) «TwistedSifter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhmo3E ) 1321814;1447220431;trinque;pete_dushenski │ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321680 << gabe, you keep track of the weirdest shit y'know << bwahahaha, bullying has delayed the cardano, and not the man reinventing every fucking component along the way?!?! 1321815;1447220431;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29; gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines... 1321816;1447220441;trinque;what a riot 1321817;1447220710;pete_dushenski;lol "bullying" 1321818;1447220741;pete_dushenski;because that's what civil discourse looks like from the bottom of the mountain or something 1321819;1447220825;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/TamerlaneBlog/status/664186730451333120 << lol fuckin askjeeves. the original web-based ai ! 1321820;1447221171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00055694 = 1.1935 BTC [+] {2} 1321821;1447221232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5010 @ 0.00055574 = 2.7843 BTC [-] {2} 1321822;1447221330;pete_dushenski;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/08/women-gender-roles-sexism-emotional-labor-feminism << the depths of inequality have nothing on the depths of narcissistic noodles (esp. that of females) 1321823;1447221331;assbot;'Women are just better at this stuff': is emotional labor feminism's next frontier? | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhnz2T ) 1321824;1447221343;pete_dushenski;"“It suggests to me that there is a detachment to home that I do not have the luxury of having. Because if I did, then our everyday life would be a nightmare. So I take on that role. That’s not my authentic self, but I have no choice,” she says." 1321825;1447221366;pete_dushenski;"is it time we started forgetting the birthdays too, time we stopped falsely screaming ecstasy, and demanded adequate, formal remuneration for emotion work provided in the workplace as a skill? Now that, right there, would probably be a shake-patriarchy-to-its-core revolution." 1321826;1447221385;pete_dushenski;myeah, because the patriarchy is totally stealing those free smiles from you 1321827;1447221397;pete_dushenski;time to make the man pay for EVERYTHING he's getting 1321828;1447221406;pete_dushenski;"no moar phreebies!" 1321829;1447221426;pete_dushenski;bbias 1321830;1447221476;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.000558 = 5.3847 BTC [+] {2} 1321831;1447222219;ben_vulpes;in other news, appfolio is a giant steaming pile of horseshit 1321832;1447222240;ben_vulpes;a half-baked rails app pretending to be able to do things like manage billing and maintenance requests 1321833;1447222301;ben_vulpes;not only do they have multiple login paths, some of which do not work and return entirely useless error messages 1321834;1447222338;trinque;it must be some new security strategy, like ducks and their false vaginas. 1321835;1447222348;ben_vulpes;but they will drop your regularly scheduled rent payment with no fucking notice 1321836;1447222370;ben_vulpes;brian donahoo, of the "gotomeeting" bitcoin virus 1321837;1447222373;mircea_popescu;punkman not any vacuums! 1321838;1447222394;ben_vulpes;klaus schauser, idem 1321839;1447222488;ben_vulpes;and particularly you, jon walker of appfolio, you miserable rails-propping, giving-no-shits-about-customer-banking, are all hereby fucking fired from having any future relevance. 1321840;1447222513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055803 = 1.5067 BTC [+] 1321841;1447222565;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/entrepreneur-proposes-gun-lockup-truck-outside-st-louis-sports-venues/article_cdd506bf-475c-56d0-a89d-7660647331b1.html 1321842;1447222618;ben_vulpes;in particular re jon walker of appfolio, adjunct professorship is not a resume bullet. "multiple patents" under the auspices of the usg is not a resume bullet. you had a single job: shipping software that worked, and you failed. you failed spectacularly. 1321843;1447222661;punkman;https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot oh god the dependencies 1321844;1447222662;assbot;ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhp7da ) 1321845;1447222846;ben_vulpes;may all of you involved in the appfolio scam dance for venture capitalists for the rest of your lives. may your children emerge from college bearing hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. may your development teams never accomplish anything, and may you never know the reason why. may your lives complete devoid of meaning, wasting away in poverty and ignominy. 1321846;1447223072;ben_vulpes;punkman: good to know i'm not the only one thinking about this 1321847;1447223238;punkman;ben_vulpes: python, ruby, javascript, haxe, lua, redis, couchdb, zeromq, wget, wpull, curl, rsync, phantomjs, THIS LIST DOES NOT END 1321848;1447223250;ben_vulpes;yeah 1321849;1447223263;ben_vulpes;while nobody in the wot's issued fatwa against ruby yet, it doth loom. 1321850;1447223276;ben_vulpes;haxe really? 1321851;1447223279;ben_vulpes;good shit. 1321852;1447223294;ben_vulpes;yech. 1321853;1447224085;mircea_popescu;ha. 1321854;1447224095;mircea_popescu;it IS an app. seriously, you had an expectation apps work ? 1321855;1447224135;mircea_popescu;punkman is that the archive.is stuff or the imo bullshit alexa thing ? 1321856;1447224149;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: appears to dump archives into archive.org 1321857;1447224161;mircea_popescu;ah yeah. archive.org is ~ srsly ~ a piece of shit. 1321858;1447224229;mircea_popescu;also i saw a man today showering out of a bucket, in front of someone's house. this man... he had tits. and i'm not kidding around, he had a pair of d's on him no girl'd be ashamed with. except they were in the ridiculous shape of manboob 1321859;1447224232;mircea_popescu;so no good to anyone 1321860;1447224294;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/8195bf800302e86113adace2fb21c107/tumblr_mkqzh3g0nV1qf213go1_400.gif 1321861;1447224297;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhr2i1 ) 1321862;1447224298;mircea_popescu;white bitchez can't duck. 1321863;1447224322;ben_vulpes;at risk of giving away crown jewelz, archiving without indexing for search is mind-bogglingly stupid. 1321864;1447224383;mircea_popescu;i suspect that's the product. 1321865;1447224540;punkman;mircea_popescu: what's wrong with archive.org? 1321866;1447224558;mircea_popescu;they curate their "archive". 1321867;1447224786;punkman;they accept all kinds of dumps 1321868;1447225526;pete_dushenski;;;nethash 1321869;1447225527;gribble;457697906.643 1321870;1447225534;pete_dushenski;pretty steady 1321871;1447225604;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: in the same news, 3/4 full pop can knocks white bitchez the fuck out. and black men ~can~ duck 1321872;1447225807;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00055803 = 3.5714 BTC [+] 1321873;1447225838;ben_vulpes;pete_dushenski: "last i checked, and i actually checked", but no citation? 1321874;1447225860;pete_dushenski;ben_vulpes: first-hand experience, my good man 1321875;1447225872;pete_dushenski;i am the source of all words ! 1321876;1447225903;ben_vulpes;sure, but your particular setup is not particularly representative last i checked and i checked etc etc 1321877;1447225948;pete_dushenski;not representative like my experience was unusual ? 1321878;1447226009;pete_dushenski;tons of people sell cars, those are the numbers. and cars are the 2nd biggest ticket item after houses. and womenz are pretty much always involved, be it wives, gfs, mothers... 1321879;1447226035;ben_vulpes;"oh, you want a 911? hm okay." 1321880;1447226042;pete_dushenski;a $50-200k luxury good is a $50-200k luxury good 1321881;1447226081;ben_vulpes;maersk is a big ticket. a car is a car. 1321882;1447226120;pete_dushenski;and a watch is a watch. you see the problem with this line of logic ? 1321883;1447226152;pete_dushenski;and we're talking about well-heeled families, not cargo ! 1321884;1447226182;pete_dushenski;yes, corporations are "persons" too. except not. 1321885;1447226184;ben_vulpes;and i'm talking about capital allocation, not fashion. 1321886;1447226211;pete_dushenski;if you're not talking about fashion, you're missing the point. 1321887;1447226227;pete_dushenski;that's ~exactly~ what these "social goods" are 1321888;1447226260;pete_dushenski;they're (attempts at) signal, whether valuable or not, useful or not, effective or not 1321889;1447226317;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 7.96587754 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b60 1321890;1447226337;punkman;the hedging 1321891;1447226552;pete_dushenski;;;later tell gabrielradio please to translate http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321447. i wanna take a stab at countering mp's position on historical buildings ! 1321892;1447226552;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 22:23:58; *: mircea_popescu is in principle opposed to scanning books for the same reason he was against the "preservation of historical buidlings" in http://trilema.com/2009/el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha-si-conul-andrei-pippidi/ (and summarized in http://trilema.com/2009/n-am-putea-sa-avem-si-noi/#selection-49.186-53.326 ) 1321893;1447226553;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321894;1447226630;pete_dushenski;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321452 << unless the whole argument hinges on state intervention, in which case... yeah, that's a point. 1321895;1447226630;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 22:25:29; mircea_popescu: ie, there, "it's not the job of the state to protect the cultural patrimony OF INDIVIDUALS and their clans ; if those individuals and clans are so degenerate, bankrupt and chlorotioc as to no longer be able to protect their heritage, let the worms havce it. no, not even for comunist metaphisics ; no, the property of x isn't "ours", no x's history isn't "ours". let them uphold it or let it die. 1321896;1447226722;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00055803 = 2.7622 BTC [+] 1321897;1447227073;mircea_popescu;it does. 1321898;1447227672;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 15.89800000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b22 1321899;1447228155;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 9.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b61 1321900;1447228491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055803 = 1.5067 BTC [+] 1321901;1447228834;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b62 1321902;1447229345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.00055703 = 2.32 BTC [-] {2} 1321903;1447229612;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b63 1321904;1447230662;pete_dushenski;;;later tell asciilifeform http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/#comment-34730 1321905;1447230663;assbot;The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNtr1v ) 1321906;1447230663;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1321907;1447231576;BingoBoingo;lol http://www.infosecinstitute.com/security-awareness/ 1321908;1447231577;assbot;Security Awareness Training- Candidate Scorecard ... ( http://bit.ly/1koAzXF ) 1321909;1447231635;pete_dushenski;go ben ! 1321910;1447231763;BingoBoingo;I support Dr. Carson because he is a neurosurgeon who is quite a few shades darker than Obama 1321911;1447231789;BingoBoingo;None of this community organizer bullshit. Dr. Carson cut people open and reassembled them. 1321912;1447231840;pete_dushenski;did he build a $6 mn man for a running mate ? 1321913;1447232074;ben_vulpes;> Pro 1321914;1447232081;ben_vulpes;> Requires HTTPS 1321915;1447232186;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: To be determined 1321916;1447232580;BingoBoingo;Moar drama http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/columns/joe-holleman/mizzou-hunger-strike-figure-from-omaha-son-of-top-railroad/article_20630c03-2a68-5e63-9585-edde16fe05f3.html 1321917;1447232603;BingoBoingo;"He is a member of a prominent Omaha family. The newspaper says that Butler's father is Eric L. Butler, executive vice president for sales and marketing for the Union Pacific Railroad." 1321918;1447232608;punkman;https://www.google.com/search?num=50&safe=off&q=inurl%3A"README_FOR_DECRYPT.txt" 1321919;1447232614;assbot;inurl:"README_FOR_DECRYPT.txt" - Recherche Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqDQfT ) 1321920;1447232792;BingoBoingo;The effect of cultural Fukishima on athlete recruitment https://archive.is/yWSDP 1321921;1447232792;assbot;Ja’Mari Ward will be a Missouri Tiger | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1koBGGV ) 1321922;1447233199;ben_vulpes;> Pro 1321923;1447233201;ben_vulpes;> Building a security team. Runs up-to-date software. 1321924;1447233222;ben_vulpes;> Con 1321925;1447233223;ben_vulpes;> Large attack surface that relies on a quickly-built custom application. 1321926;1447233244;punkman;what's all that 1321927;1447233265;ben_vulpes;good ol' specificity of diddling. 1321928;1447233285;ben_vulpes;BingoBoingo's infosec link. 1321929;1447233314;ben_vulpes;website is marvelous 1321930;1447233385;ben_vulpes;"live hacking fun!" 1321931;1447233392;ben_vulpes;ahaha why am i looking at this 1321932;1447233415;BingoBoingo;Morbid curiosity 1321933;1447233676;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00055803 = 3.0971 BTC [+] 1321934;1447234055;BingoBoingo;;;ud freelapse 1321935;1447234056;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Freelapse | Freelapse. A free high that does not count as a relapse for those who are clean and sober, acquired through the following: 1. The effects of anesthesia, during or  ... 1321936;1447234103;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4686 @ 0.00055803 = 2.6149 BTC [+] 1321937;1447234530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0005566 = 3.3708 BTC [-] {3} 1321938;1447236238;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00055571 = 1.167 BTC [-] {2} 1321939;1447237031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00055803 = 7.087 BTC [+] 1321940;1447237275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3592 @ 0.00055803 = 2.0044 BTC [+] 1321941;1447239105;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00055803 = 1.2115 BTC [+] 1321942;1447240935;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00055803 = 1.702 BTC [+] 1321943;1447241495;shinohai;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831595.msg12944722#msg12944722 1321944;1447241496;assbot;Get FREE Bitcoins and win AMAZON gift cards in Provably Fair games! | BitGame ... ( http://bit.ly/1MA3nH3 ) 1321945;1447241517;shinohai;Amazon GC ? 1321946;1447241590;shinohai;https://twitter.com/SatoshiShinohai/status/664215324410159104 <<< LOL 1321947;1447242389;shinohai;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boy-8-faces-murder-charge-beating-death-ala-toddler-article-1.2430617 1321948;1447242390;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1O3dKCw ) 1321949;1447242704;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00055803 = 1.0603 BTC [+] 1321950;1447243506;adlai;BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/2J7PVRD.txt 1321951;1447243507;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1O3f0FC ) 1321952;1447243802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00055986 = 3.919 BTC [+] {5} 1321953;1447245327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8818 @ 0.00056176 = 4.9536 BTC [+] 1321954;1447246059;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0005569 = 2.339 BTC [-] {3} 1321955;1447246225;shinohai;http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/270075/sarah-furay-arrested-meth-texas/ <<< well she obviously wasn't too dumb to sling dope. 1321956;1447246226;assbot;Texas cops arrest adorable drug kingpin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnAfPV ) 1321957;1447246852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00056175 = 1.1387 BTC [+] {2} 1321958;1447246913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00056176 = 1.0112 BTC [+] 1321959;1447248072;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00055457 = 2.6619 BTC [-] {3} 1321960;1447248315;punkman;fun website http://smalltownnoir.com/2011/02/17/elizabeth-miller-liquor-violation-5-june-1948-2/ 1321961;1447248317;assbot;Elizabeth Miller, “liquor violation”, 5 June 1948 | Small Town Noir ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hydc8h ) 1321962;1447249016;BingoBoingo;Imma guess Miller ended up working for the circus? 1321963;1447249074;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b19 1321964;1447249171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00056175 = 2.1347 BTC [+] {2} 1321965;1447250537;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1321966;1447250543;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 318.11, vol: 62146.30724195 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 320.414, vol: 30509.89202 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 320.54, vol: 148924.05969853 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 330.0, vol: 8.72185677 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 321.478443, vol: 140909.47320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 320.0, vol: 226.16107716 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 327.478499989, vol: 313.31557695 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1321967;1447250544;BingoBoingo;;;more 1321968;1447250545;gribble;average: 320.486506754 1321969;1447250808;BingoBoingo;http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/nation/article/Unwanted-twerking-leads-to-sexual-abuse-charges-6622396.php#photo-8934923 1321970;1447250809;assbot;Unwanted twerking leads to sexual abuse charges - Houston Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1SIyzF3 ) 1321971;1447251313;jurov;sooo... my stator is @ 376820, would be synced in 2 weeks if i did not hit my foot with btrfs 1321972;1447251362;jurov;also, it seems to work fine with oldest 9 blk000?.dat on slower disk 1321973;1447251369;shinohai;Nice jurov ... just got mine back up a week ago @ height 356995 currently 1321974;1447251428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00055904 = 1.6212 BTC [-] 1321975;1447251469;jurov;also noteworthy that the dirt-cheap ssd survived it all ( http://www.dx.com/p/kingdian-s200-smi2246xt-2-5-sata3-solid-state-drive-ssd-black-60gb-396568#.VkNNwXb9_mE ) 1321976;1447251470;assbot;KingDian S200 SMI2246XT 2.5" SATA3 Solid State Drive SSD - Black (60GB) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1SIA2uR ) 1321977;1447251531;*;shinohai still needs an SSD to test on, uses cruddy lappy drives. 1321978;1447251864;jurov;i'm syncing over LAN from core 0.10, just to complete the picture 1321979;1447251914;jurov;btw, is it possible to continue running a blockchain synced on amd64 on pogo? 1321980;1447252894;shinohai;jurov seems to work here, I cat'd a few over to pogo and it syncs against it ^^ 1321981;1447253386;asciilifeform;jurov, shinohai: pogo is a little-endian arch so it ought to work 1321982;1447253506;BingoBoingo;https://archive.is/pLjy5 1321983;1447253507;assbot;Best way to powder with minimal product loss? : cocaine ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnIw6g ) 1321984;1447253746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00056175 = 2.1627 BTC [+] {2} 1321985;1447254998;BingoBoingo;http://www.france24.com/en/20151110-france-iran-president-rouhani-objects-french-wine-paris-visit 1321986;1447255000;assbot;france 24 - Wine before diplomacy: Iran snubs French state dinner invite over alcohol - France 24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnL7gy ) 1321987;1447255041;thestringpuller;;;calc 780 - 450 - 200 - 75 1321988;1447255041;gribble;55 1321989;1447255101;PeterL;Is it more insulting to offer wine to Muslims or to turn down wine from Frenchies? 1321990;1447255193;BingoBoingo;No idea, perhaps davout can weight in on this matter 1321991;1447255297;asciilifeform;http://www.france24.com/en/20151103-crocodiles-starve-after-us-freezes-elite-honduras-familys-assets << l0lz 1321992;1447255298;assbot;Flash - Crocodiles starve after US freezes elite Honduras family's assets - France 24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnLN5x ) 1321993;1447255325;shinohai;#croclivesmatter 1321994;1447256003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00056199 = 3.2033 BTC [+] {2} 1321995;1447257772;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00056211 = 1.8668 BTC [+] 1321996;1447257894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0005622 = 2.305 BTC [+] {2} 1321997;1447258077;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00055768 = 2.1365 BTC [-] {2} 1321998;1447258626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2942 @ 0.00056226 = 1.6542 BTC [+] 1321999;1447258748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0005557 = 2.3339 BTC [-] {4} 1322000;1447261798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.0005544 = 1.4137 BTC [-] 1322001;1447261859;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1322002;1447262301;mircea_popescu; I support Dr. Carson << so soes every other reasonable / educated / middle class guy i know in there. which is how i know he doesn't have a chance in hell. 1322003;1447262407;mircea_popescu; Amazon GC ? <<< every time i see one of these marketed i grin. because i know about eulora, and they don't, and somehow the fact that the swarm loses out pleases me. 1322004;1447262437;ascii_field;... GC ... << garbage collector ? 1322005;1447262469;shinohai;lol 1322006;1447262490;mircea_popescu; Is it more insulting to offer wine to Muslims << this is not insulting to muslims. it is only insulting to 3rd generation americans who pretend mulsimity to fill the existential void. 1322007;1447262513;mircea_popescu;otherwise, every time in an islamic country i was everyone's best friend on account of the magic my passport could wreak at the "special shop for foreigners". 1322008;1447262538;mircea_popescu;ascii_field aptly named, but no : for the underclass "gc" means "gift certificate" 1322009;1447262553;mircea_popescu;they even have pavlovian responses to it, like a sort of "privately run bell", salivation begins.\ 1322010;1447262555;ascii_field;l0l! 1322011;1447262557;mircea_popescu;"almost like the state dole!" 1322012;1447262681;mircea_popescu;"I never knew Pirate were a shining star of brilliance and intellectual depth 1322013;1447262681;mircea_popescu;And I hear Buterin just got 44,000 BTC smarter." << lol alfie massacring the priesthood. 1322014;1447262927;pete_dushenski;http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/ben-bernanke/posts/2015/11/09-budgetary-sleight-of-hand << bernanke stickin' it to the man 1322015;1447262928;assbot;Budgetary sleight-of-hand | Brookings Institution ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuC0K ) 1322016;1447262957;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.000558 = 2.0367 BTC [-] 1322017;1447263055;mircea_popescu;ascii_field https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice http://www.aliexpress.com/popular/metal-computer-mouse.html etc 1322018;1447263057;assbot;World's Best Quality Gaming Mice | SteelSeries ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNct ) 1322019;1447263058;assbot;Popular Metal Computer Mouse-Buy Cheap Metal Computer Mouse lots from China Metal Computer Mouse suppliers on Aliexpress.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNcz ) 1322020;1447263058;pete_dushenski;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crickhowell-welsh-town-moves-offshore-to-avoid-tax-on-local-business-a6728971.html << just as crafty as >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-11-2015#1321288 1322021;1447263058;assbot;Crickhowell: Welsh town moves 'offshore' to avoid tax on local business | UK | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNsO ) 1322022;1447263058;assbot;Logged on 10-11-2015 15:29:16; punkman: "A wealthy, elderly man, for example, could technically marry the father of his daughter’s children. This would enable an estate of any size to pass tax-free into the next generation on the older man’s death. After his elderly “husband” had died, of course, the younger man would be free to marry the daughter, with the estate thus secured intact." 1322023;1447263067;*;mircea_popescu also had occasion to hold one of these in house of avid gamer 1322024;1447263070;mircea_popescu;so stop being such a baby! 1322025;1447263105;*;pete_dushenski is enjoying the rat9 that alf recommended 1322026;1447263117;pete_dushenski;the adjustable palm grip is a godsend for these big mitts 1322027;1447263149;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322017 << 1) i see plastic parts in ALL of these with naked eye 2) WITHOUT EXCEPTION the internals (clickers) are standard 1322028;1447263149;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 17:30:55; mircea_popescu: ascii_field https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice http://www.aliexpress.com/popular/metal-computer-mouse.html etc 1322029;1447263161;ascii_field;and wear very, very quickly. 1322030;1447263166;mircea_popescu;uh. 1322031;1447263193;mircea_popescu;you know the reason everything was steel in the 70s was because they couldn't mold plastics worth a shit yea ? 1322032;1447263206;ascii_field;naturally 1322033;1447263210;ascii_field;but why does the reason matter? 1322034;1447263219;ascii_field;the didn't know how to make ersatz chocolate, either 1322035;1447263256;mircea_popescu;\ 1322036;1447263514;mircea_popescu;And social goods is how we got to be surrounded by idiots and their trinkets to begin with. << yet again and again it comes back to the name of the rose, and the old monk's hater of laughter. 1322037;1447263518;mircea_popescu;hatred* 1322038;1447263522;mircea_popescu;whatever shall we do. 1322039;1447263525;ascii_field;l0l!! 1322040;1447263533;*;ascii_field loves that thing with a vengeance 1322041;1447263534;mircea_popescu;how to separate the chimp from good humor 1322042;1447263556;mircea_popescu;i confess this is perhaps my foremost area of research at the present time 1322043;1447263566;mircea_popescu;and boy oh boy does it require atomic dirigible ciclotrons. 1322044;1447263610;mircea_popescu;ascii_field you've perhaps noticed me doing a credible impersonation of the old fart yest i imagine. 1322045;1447263627;ascii_field;aha 1322046;1447263683;mircea_popescu;the problem with kids reading above their paygrade (which is to say, the sort of typically ustardian kid who, instead of coming at it plainly and getting trampled AT HIS LOWER LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING protects his ego through "ironicity" and interacts with the written excrement of great forefathers at a time when it's safe to do so [ie, afrter the "death of the author]) is that they ALWAYS misinterpret the silences. 1322047;1447263702;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322048;1447263767;ascii_field;'Now the Sirens have a still more fatal weapon than their song, namely their silence. And though admittedly such a thing has never happened, still it is conceivable that someone might possibly have escaped from their singing; but from their silence certainly never.' (ol' franz k.) 1322049;1447263777;mircea_popescu;hehehe 1322050;1447263861;mircea_popescu;it IS, btw, a very fine understanding of the matter at hand. it is in things such as these that we (ie, actually cultivated folk) recognize that people like kafka, or nietzsche, or picasso or who have you actually IS a master, who just chooses to go at it differently. 1322051;1447263883;mircea_popescu;inept kids just imagine "art was revolutionezed and the old thrown out". not so, but who can be arsed to discuss the matter with novices in their terms. 1322052;1447263897;mircea_popescu;anyway : kafka is exactly right, and this is where the siren story meets narcissus' story. 1322053;1447263904;ascii_field;hey i've even run into folks who imagined that 'physics was thrown out' 1322054;1447263916;mircea_popescu;i confess i was reading all through the (very fine!) tlp piece on narcissus expecting a kafka reference at any point 1322055;1447263928;mircea_popescu;that it never came is to my eyes proof that, willing or not, you ARE redoing galois by hand, alf. 1322056;1447264008;ascii_field;this sorta plugs into the root of my allergy for tlp 1322057;1447264018;ascii_field;and why i can stand maybe 5 min. of him in one sitting: 1322058;1447264034;ascii_field;he seeps with pus from sores of radiation damage from amer. 'pop' 1322059;1447264047;mircea_popescu;see ? i could read the whole thing through because also horses! 1322060;1447264143;mircea_popescu;anyway, the symmetry with orlov is oddly lolz. 1322061;1447264174;ascii_field;howsthat? 1322062;1447264526;ascii_field;https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/11/09/the-nsa-school-how-the-intelligence-community-gets-smarter-secretly << l0ltr0nic 1322063;1447264527;assbot;The NSA school: How the intelligence community gets smarter, secretly - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROx734 ) 1322064;1447264588;mircea_popescu;well because i can't stand the bullshit "will to power" prose of the derp, either. 1322065;1447264620;mircea_popescu;oh check it out, he's gonna be the next best thing to a super secret service agent aka "practically james bond" : he's gonna be a ~practically~ secret service guy! 1322066;1447264636;ascii_field;wai wut 1322067;1447264653;*;pete_dushenski has tickets to 'spectre' this afternoon, with modest expectations 1322068;1447264720;ascii_field;'Gosh, all of this warm fuzzy coverage of the NSA just brings a tear of thanks to my eye. While you're at it, could you do a puff piece on Stasi, and the KGB/camp system in the Soviet Union? I'm sure they did a spectacular job saving lives and keeping people safe, as well.' << from the not-yet-censored commentz 1322069;1447264727;shinohai;Christophor Waltz may save it. 1322070;1447264743;mircea_popescu;aha 1322071;1447264748;pete_dushenski;shinohai: and moo-eyes ! 1322072;1447264756;shinohai;^^ 1322073;1447264795;mircea_popescu;"The House voted Thursday to pay for planned highway construction by drawing on the Federal Reserves capital. The idea of using Fed capital to pay for government spending, which comes up periodically, is a bad one, for several reasons." 1322074;1447264800;mircea_popescu;where was it, i gotta find it now 1322075;1447264871;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/#selection-117.407-117.615 1322076;1447264872;assbot;Digging through archives yields gold on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxESz ) 1322077;1447264889;mircea_popescu;" but they find easy money too seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful" 1322078;1447264934;mircea_popescu;"More substantivelyand this is what I want to focus on in this postpaying for highway spending with Fed capital is not paying for it at all in any economically meaningful sense. Rather, this maneuver is a form of budgetary sleight-of-hand that would count funds that are already designated for the Treasury as new revenue." 1322079;1447264940;asciilifeform;!up analmaster 1322080;1447264942;analmaster;yo 1322081;1447264944;ascii_field;analmaster ! 1322082;1447264947;analmaster;hello 1322083;1447264948;analmaster;http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-students-hallucinate-kkk-on-campus/ 1322084;1447264949;assbot;Mizzou Students Hallucinate KKK On Campus | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxIBY ) 1322085;1447264950;mircea_popescu;exactly. ie, the usg needs, for continued survival, to count all its money TWICE 1322086;1447264951;mircea_popescu;in 2015. 1322087;1447264953;analmaster;im here with good papers 1322088;1447264955;mircea_popescu;and in 2020 ? 1322089;1447264963;pete_dushenski;thrice ! 1322090;1447265019;mircea_popescu;"does this mean i sell the government a truckload of pork and it pays me for it three times ?" "no dummy, it means that if you do enter into a contract with them to sell them one truckload of pork you a) will never get paid and b) will have to deliver three truckloads. yearly. daily. fuck you!!1" 1322091;1447265075;mircea_popescu;(legal precedent : http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/#selection-81.0-81.349 aka "Plaintiff seeks to make his case solely upon the theory that, by reason of the change in the weight of the dollar he is entitled to $1.69 in the present currency for every dollar promised by the bond, regardless of any actual loss he has suffered with respect to any transaction in which his dollars may be used. We think th 1322092;1447265076;assbot;The endless story of Korea. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxZos ) 1322093;1447265076;mircea_popescu;at position is untenable.") 1322094;1447265083;mircea_popescu;YOU HAVE SUFFERED NO LOSS1111!11 1322095;1447265170;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322083 << bonus: the washpost piece analmaster linked me to yesterday, has vanished into the aether 1322096;1447265170;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 18:02:28; analmaster: http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-students-hallucinate-kkk-on-campus/ 1322097;1447265173;ascii_field;without a trace 1322098;1447265210;jurov;as children we were playing toy casino, and when the chips ran out we invented that we issue new ones, 1322099;1447265214;pete_dushenski;!up thestringpuller 1322100;1447265215;jurov;but to avoid inflation, we always got a negative and positive paper with the same value together 1322101;1447265219;mircea_popescu;they gotta pull stories multiple times a day each day by now huh ? 1322102;1447265224;jurov;but each could be played independently 1322103;1447265231;jurov;we had endless fun with it 1322104;1447265231;mircea_popescu;the whole libtard charade literally busting at seams. 1322105;1447265238;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: dunno if in logs but is there gonna be an MPOE statement this month? 1322106;1447265241;jurov;seems we invented fed 1322107;1447265249;mircea_popescu;jurov aha. 1322108;1447265250;analmaster;they do 1322109;1447265258;analmaster;they redact things without even saying they are redacting things 1322110;1447265260;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller next month, that and mpif. 1322111;1447265264;analmaster;like there will be no trace of anything on the internets 1322112;1447265267;thestringpuller;k. 1322113;1447265283;mircea_popescu;analmaster and tghere isn't , becausw really, who gives a shit what the agitprop machine "says". 1322114;1447265288;ascii_field;'doubleplus ungood, refs unpersons' 1322115;1447265288;mircea_popescu;i don't read them anyway. 1322116;1447265336;analmaster;i cant wait to send my children to a nice school like this one 1322117;1447265393;analmaster;mircea_popescu: where do i go to live to escape this amerikkka 1322118;1447265394;mircea_popescu;make girls then. 1322119;1447265426;mircea_popescu;analmaster you ever read http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ ? 1322120;1447265427;assbot;#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1k32ZX6 ) 1322121;1447265449;ascii_field;at my uni we had two separate incidents, complete with organized mooing, 'candlelight vigils', protest marches, etc. of 'nooses found' (noose is supposed to be a symbol of impending lynching, yes...) - one turned out to be a popped balloon's string on a tree, the other - was never seen by any witness save the instigator of the hysteria 1322122;1447265521;mircea_popescu;you wanna tell me an entire campus never does erotic asphyxiation ? 1322123;1447265527;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322124;1447265533;*;mircea_popescu has a pre-made noose in this very house! nice thick rope too. 1322125;1447265535;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: on a tree ? 1322126;1447265543;mircea_popescu;so they got drunk and threw it out the window. 1322127;1447265559;*;mircea_popescu has observed dildo and paraphenalia rain out of window on campus b4. 1322128;1447267044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00055868 = 1.9761 BTC [+] 1322129;1447267090;pete_dushenski;"Last December, when Rolling Stone’s account of a brutal gang rape at the University of Virginia began to unravel, some commentators argued that we should nevertheless take claims of sexual assault at face value, on the grounds that statistically, they are very likely true. “I choose to believe Jackie,” Jessica Valenti wrote in The Guardian. “I lose nothing by doing so, even if I’m later proven wrong. 1322130;1447267091;pete_dushenski;” In The Washington Post, Zerlina Maxwell argued: “We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.”" 1322131;1447267098;pete_dushenski;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/magazine/the-lessons-of-stanfords-sex-assault-case-reversal.html 1322132;1447267102;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROB6N7 ) 1322133;1447267167;pete_dushenski;jessica, you lose EVERYTHING by affirming the right, nay, the duty to be a victim. 1322134;1447267181;pete_dushenski;society, culture, the whole lot. gone. out the window. never coming back. 1322135;1447267227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5629 @ 0.00056011 = 3.1529 BTC [+] {4} 1322136;1447267231;pete_dushenski;the weak are in the right... never. 1322137;1447267289;pete_dushenski;https://www.facebook.com/nntaleb/posts/10153421745588375 << where alf wants to live, taleb's 'rural past' 1322138;1447267290;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROBr2t ) 1322139;1447267310;pete_dushenski;less show-offy, more 'vertical' social life 1322140;1447267364;pete_dushenski;!up ascii_field 1322141;1447267656;jurov;i read in south america there still some of that system survives.. but i guess mircea_popescu is not interested in herding peasants 1322142;1447267661;jurov;and alf even less 1322143;1447267768;phf;there are stores in u.s. where you can buy some quality rope. hemp, jute, nylon in garish colors, all by the meter. there's probably a harness worth of rope next to a dildo collection in every dorm 1322144;1447267776;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00055634 = 2.1141 BTC [-] {4} 1322145;1447267815;jurov;it's disguised as macrame 1322146;1447267871;phf;different rope, although i wouldn't be surprised.. 1322147;1447269179;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2431 @ 0.00055392 = 1.3466 BTC [-] 1322148;1447270236;kakobrekla;log dump in the form of a single fat file http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/ 1322149;1447270236;assbot;Index of /log/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1M7jZEB ) 1322150;1447270250;kakobrekla;get synced hourly 1322151;1447270320;phf;kakobrekla: is the first column, the #id ? 1322152;1447270351;kakobrekla;yeah 1322153;1447270360;trinque;nice. 1322154;1447270395;trinque;what's a reasonable deeding interval, weekly? 1322155;1447270434;kakobrekla;well are you going to keep weekly 100mb+ copies of log saved somewhere? 1322156;1447270443;mircea_popescu;except claims of "Sexual assault" made by a native english speaker are very likely false. 1322157;1447270456;trinque;kakobrekla: I could diff them on my end, or you could chunk them on yours 1322158;1447270466;kakobrekla;i guess you could compress em as well 1322159;1447270484;mircea_popescu;i would expect less than 1% odds of them ACTUALLY being sexual assault, and perhaps as little as 5-10% of them being some sort of contravention. 1322160;1447270495;mircea_popescu;so, no. 1322161;1447270495;kakobrekla;well i asked before if you want it chunked or not and the answer was not 1322162;1447270524;trinque;did I say that? 1322163;1447270536;kakobrekla;mp did! 1322164;1447270541;kakobrekla;blame him 1322165;1447270549;mircea_popescu; less show-offy, more 'vertical' social life << jurov you are fucking crazy if you imagine the thirld worlders are BETTER at being real. they all got tvs over here. every god forsaken favela in brazil, salta, what have you has a tv. no fridge, but tv. 1322166;1447270562;mircea_popescu;so no, they're even more wanna-be than you'd expect. 1322167;1447270574;jurov;what? 1322168;1447270618;mircea_popescu;wasn't that your idea ? that in fabled south america people didn't actually invent the telenovela ? 1322169;1447270665;trinque;kakobrekla: in either case, once we settle on what gets deeded, I'm happy to rig up the cron and make it happen 1322170;1447270691;kakobrekla;if you need it chunked ill chunk 1322171;1447270702;mircea_popescu;that's prolly better so as not to bw. 1322172;1447270717;kakobrekla;bw? 1322173;1447270721;mircea_popescu;bandwidth 1322174;1447270725;jurov;point taken, even the remnants of nobility in rural argentina don't have vertical social anymore 1322175;1447270728;mircea_popescu;you know, 100mb every day ? what is this, the blockcain ? 1322176;1447270788;kakobrekla;but daily chunks isnt most practical 1322177;1447270815;mircea_popescu;why not ? could just make directory structure like trilema does it, by year/month/eachday.txt 1322178;1447270816;mircea_popescu;no good ? 1322179;1447270862;mircea_popescu;i suppose actually the eachday.txt is the log already. 1322180;1447270870;kakobrekla;aha 1322181;1447270873;phf;yyyy-mm-dd.txt 1322182;1447270875;mircea_popescu;maybe just make each month ? 1322183;1447270927;mircea_popescu;phf no because after 60 years it will break bfrs :D 1322184;1447271059;mircea_popescu;jurov thinking about it, the non-people's desire to not-exist is pungent. palpable. yet they keep getting their ways out denied, "oh, war is bad", "oh, suicide is the wrong answer" or blablabla. can't even lick lead paint anymore, can't ride without helmets, honestly we deserve everything we get for stubbornly keeping the dead alive against nature and its own fucking wishes. 1322185;1447271127;phf;in 60 years will be using "f", a fits in head filesystem implementation by ascii, that can store terabytes of data, but technically indistinguishable from tape archive 1322186;1447271160;mircea_popescu;i still haven't figured out if he loves immutable (ie, tar) or else volatile (ie, party bits). 1322187;1447271355;phf; speaking of tape, i've always lamented that no one sells a reel-to-reel for modern pc 1322188;1447271374;mircea_popescu;aha. 1322189;1447271384;phf;but that was not the thread i was looking for.. 1322190;1447271665;phf;there we go http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218601 1322191;1447271665;assbot;Logged on 30-07-2015 20:30:25; ascii_field: nothing on a pc is 'append only' ! 1322192;1447271680;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00055356 = 1.3872 BTC [-] {3} 1322193;1447271791;trinque;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218591 1322194;1447271791;assbot;Logged on 30-07-2015 20:25:52; ascii_field: keep all blocks in antifuse rom 1322195;1447271979;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322196;1447271985;ascii_field;things that have no business mutating, ought to live on a physical 'WORM' sorta thing 1322197;1447271990;ascii_field;no mega-mystery here. 1322198;1447272773;kakobrekla;chunked my month now http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/ 1322199;1447272774;assbot;Index of /log/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1M7jZEB ) 1322200;1447272799;pete_dushenski;who said you could have that month ? 1322201;1447272854;trinque;kakobrekla: wonderful, ty. I will cron their deeding this evening. 1322202;1447272956;phf;kakobrekla: is the current month updating at that 10 minute interval? 1322203;1447272971;kakobrekla;currently set at 1h 1322204;1447272978;phf;kk 1322205;1447272989;kakobrekla;i can make it go faster if you need 1322206;1447273247;phf;no 1h works for me 1322207;1447273300;pete_dushenski;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTiHwzdUkAAUpqY.jpg << or why china doesn't need african labour 1322208;1447273301;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaBBvv ) 1322209;1447273764;*;pete_dushenski to movie 1322210;1447273966;lobbes;!up ascii_field 1322211;1447274486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00055352 = 1.3284 BTC [-] 1322212;1447275693;whaack;hey again, I've been working on my "IRC Yeshiva" and been patiently lurking. I wanted to let you know you have another programmer pretty much at your disposal should you need one. 1322213;1447275734;ben_vulpes;good morning whaack 1322214;1447275753;ben_vulpes;have you taken mod6 or asciilifeform's 'v' for a spin yet? 1322215;1447275774;ben_vulpes;!up ascii_field 1322216;1447275775;whaack;I've looked at it, and I saw in the comments it needed testing so I figured maybe that's where I could start. 1322217;1447275835;ben_vulpes;if you're feeling adventurous you could try installing gabriel_laddel's masamune and then scream into the log about gentoo quest 1322218;1447276246;mircea_popescu;lovely kakobrekla 1322219;1447276286;mircea_popescu;whaack cool, so pick something to do! 1322220;1447276315;mircea_popescu;perhaps try and help mod6, he's doing a ton of different things, maybe he has time later today/this week to give out discrete tasks 1322221;1447276499;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00055406 = 2.9919 BTC [+] 1322222;1447276585;whaack;Great, I'll try to install masamune in the meantime. 1322223;1447276968;asciilifeform;!up analmaster 1322224;1447276973;analmaster;http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=455510025&m=455510026 1322225;1447276973;assbot;NPR Media Player ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNwBrl ) 1322226;1447276976;analmaster;ffast foward to 2:00 1322227;1447276981;analmaster;can i get some black men over here please 1322228;1447276985;analmaster;white men just will not do for the occasion 1322229;1447276989;ascii_field;^ actual quote 1322230;1447277000;analmaster;takes a real men to do the job here, a real black man. 1322231;1447277054;mircea_popescu;http://40.media.tumblr.com/7a5b5056ece2b37cbe1f65c4e641cf88/tumblr_n4pltmeuxN1tx3t2qo1_1280.jpg << job. 1322232;1447277055;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNwPyC ) 1322233;1447277055;ascii_field;rumour being, apparently, that the somewhat odd move of kicking out reporters is explained by there having been present 'komyoooonity organizers' from ferguson et al 1322234;1447277091;analmaster;whoa 1322235;1447277091;analmaster;rofl 1322236;1447277094;analmaster;how is that a job 1322237;1447277094;mircea_popescu;ascii_field the move of kicking out the media is not odd in the slightest. 1322238;1447277103;ascii_field;odd for 'protest' 1322239;1447277110;mircea_popescu;odd for dumbprotest ? 1322240;1447277122;ascii_field;for the trad american sort aha 1322241;1447277126;mircea_popescu;ima just quote tlp, because he has a very nice distillation of the problem : 1322242;1447277190;mircea_popescu;If you hold a protest and you aren't throwing rocks it will fail. I'm not telling you to throw rocks, I'm explaining why your march won't work. 1322243;1447277190;mircea_popescu;The reason "peaceful protests" don't work anymore is because now the protests are slower than the media coverage. When they threw the tea in Boston Harbor it was urgent, immediate, and by the time the press could interpret it it had already been digested by the public. But now even before the protest reaches critical mass the media, whose agents outnumber the protestors 100 to 1, has packaged and produced it, like 1322244;1447277190;mircea_popescu;a reality show, and by the time Naomi Klein got there I had already been told to expect someone like her. Do you see? She had already appeared before she got there. Yes, I can take pride in thinking for myself but if I'm going to be honest, all I'm doing is reacting to what I'm told 1322245;1447277222;mircea_popescu;the rules for successful are very simple : a) throw rocks ; b) no media. 1322246;1447277286;mircea_popescu;obviously you can't make "the media" aka usg agitprop machine unhave all the vans and ex-sorority chicks and whatnot. so the only practical solution when you can't prevent them acting on their options is to limit their options to one. 1322247;1447277296;mircea_popescu;throw rocks at the media, force them to pick the "evil people" narrative. 1322248;1447277330;ascii_field;usg is on both sides of this chessboard 1322249;1447277348;mircea_popescu;like soviet union was on both sides of THAT chessboard. 1322250;1447277367;mircea_popescu;yes, they're all soviets. slightly hungry pissed off low level grunt soviets vs fatcat libertard soviets. 1322251;1447277376;mircea_popescu;this happens to be good for bitcoin is all. 1322252;1447277402;analmaster;soviet libtards exist? 1322253;1447277406;analmaster;i thought they just throw them off the cliff 1322254;1447277419;ascii_field;analmaster is posting from 1978 1322255;1447277421;mircea_popescu;ascii_field understand : if the "huge hedge fund masquerading as church" engine gripes, the democrat party will have to be restructured. 1322256;1447277524;mircea_popescu;and because of the communication problem (see http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ ) they won't be able to do it smoothly. 1322257;1447277525;assbot;The problem of ideal social systems - reprint on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNxPCT ) 1322258;1447277578;mircea_popescu;the grunts know why they're showing ivy league the dead cat. /me enjoys the popcorn while people we don't like fight to the death. 1322259;1447278152;mircea_popescu;best "victims of our own success" story of the decade, really. 1322260;1447278230;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322261;1447278252;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: are you familiar with the process whereby the 'xyz studies1111!1' departments at u.s. univ. came to exist ? 1322262;1447278267;ascii_field;(it was quite similar to what appears to be happening now) 1322263;1447278277;analmaster;hrm 1322264;1447278345;ascii_field;they 'came out of nowhere' in the 1960s-early-70s - as a concession to terro^H^H^H^H^protesters 1322265;1447279671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00055347 = 1.3283 BTC [-] {2} 1322266;1447279976;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055406 = 1.496 BTC [+] 1322267;1447280093;mircea_popescu;ascii_field vaguelyu. 1322268;1447280263;mircea_popescu;hm is it just me or is google ssl broken now ? 1322269;1447280283;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322270;1447280286;ascii_field;broken how 1322271;1447280356;mircea_popescu;google.com serves cert for *.googlevideo.com 1322272;1447280377;mircea_popescu;"issued by google internety authority g2" which is pretty lulzy but w/e. 1322273;1447280398;ascii_field;not here 1322274;1447280477;mircea_popescu;here however. 1322275;1447280482;mircea_popescu;reproducibly, too. 1322276;1447280806;mircea_popescu;well, firefox complains, but if i hit it up with curl on the same agent string it just hits a dumbass redirection thing. prolly some cookie based discrimination and fuck me if i have the patience to debugt the webshitstack. 1322277;1447280814;mircea_popescu;let's leave it at "google ssl fails", it's good enough. 1322278;1447280891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00055406 = 1.0527 BTC [+] 1322279;1447282111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00055502 = 2.2112 BTC [+] {2} 1322280;1447283208;ben_vulpes;http://daringfireball.net/2015/11/the_ipad_pro#fnr1-2015-11-11 << as predicted, apple is pushing tablets as their new compute station 1322281;1447283209;assbot;Daring Fireball: The iPad Pro ... ( http://bit.ly/1WNgxHr ) 1322282;1447283209;ben_vulpes;rip steve 1322283;1447283358;ben_vulpes;"First, when the iPad Pro is open with the keyboard attached, holding your arm up to touch the screen for anything longer than a moment or two is ergonomically uncomfortable. " << fucking duh, your arm wears out. human factors research on the shop floor demonstrated this decades ago, but does the american tech industry know or give a shit? ahahaha don't make me choke 1322284;1447283410;ben_vulpes;"On iOS 9.1, Safari tries to support this, but it is dreadfully buggy. Instead of paging down just less than one screen-height of content, it pages down about 1.5 screen-heights of content." << continuing the "apple can't make usable software" thread 1322285;1447283664;shinohai;I'd rather do everything with a quill pen and ink than use an ipad for anything. 1322286;1447283679;jurov;give it to urmom 1322287;1447283711;jurov;my bro won one, mom uses it for email 1322288;1447283737;jurov;i tried to find simplest possible calculator app 1322289;1447283753;jurov;guess what, it shows ads and error popups... 1322290;1447283785;shinohai;If my mother were still around, she'd probably ask me how to install all the toolbars and IE. 1322291;1447284519;deedbot-;[Qntra] Bitcoin Difficulty Jumps By Six-Month Record - http://qntra.net/2015/11/bitcoin-difficulty-jumps-by-six-month-record/ 1322292;1447284724;BingoBoingo; the whole libtard charade literally busting at seams. << I'm telling you cultural fukishima. The core has breached 1322293;1447284881;BingoBoingo; there are stores in u.s. where you can buy some quality rope. hemp, jute, nylon in garish colors, all by the meter. there's probably a harness worth of rope next to a dildo collection in every dorm << "Rural King" is the best of those places. Can get rifle, circus peanus, cattle prod, and flowers in the same trip. 1322294;1447286747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00054816 = 2.6356 BTC [-] {2} 1322295;1447288261;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo kinda fun to watch from a distance. 1322296;1447288282;mircea_popescu;all those "associate professors" in their late 30s, without tenure, ahhh... 1322297;1447288362;BingoBoingo;The thing about the "media got kicked out" protest in front of the J-School is... That actually would have been a good place to launch a ferguson style burn some buildings riot... If only they could find the manpower 1322298;1447288434;BingoBoingo;That corner of the quad connects to downtown businesses through an arch that runs through the j-school building. Serious potential to surprise some bsns's with a ransacking 1322299;1447288457;mircea_popescu;the thing with the thugs is, they really don't like going outside of their territory. 1322300;1447288485;mircea_popescu;that's kind of the one thing that support[s/ed] the centralised state : on their own, warlords warlord over a hunting range. 1322301;1447288494;mircea_popescu;creating an army is a different story. 1322302;1447288533;BingoBoingo;Also the college kids don't supply the same kind of MANpower the highschool kids do 1322303;1447288594;BingoBoingo;Either of the big high schools in CoMo could throw a much better riot than all the college kids 1322304;1447288611;mircea_popescu;now what does this say about women's marriage prospects ? 1322305;1447288704;BingoBoingo;It says the poolboy or her dealer runs the house and not her vaguely man-shaped subwife 1322306;1447288761;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00055877 = 5.6156 BTC [+] {6} 1322307;1447288823;BingoBoingo;Not enough Tyrones 1322308;1447288910;mircea_popescu;so what about that euro parity huh! 1322309;1447289014;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1322310;1447289019;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1322311;1447289021;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 290.519352, vol: 51712.09540837 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 300.0, vol: 557.98991 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 306.494712, vol: 5.82841967 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 296.915868, vol: 134242.95030000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 294.67701, vol: 20263.1294522 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 293.0, vol: 209.25991818 | Volume-weighted last average: 295.103297666 1322312;1447289028;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 313.87, vol: 51715.28565896 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 312.435, vol: 29602.41981 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 317.95, vol: 117348.13987752 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 329.99, vol: 5.82841967 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 319.90634, vol: 134239.38050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 301.56, vol: 142.93293735 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 315.4731, vol: 209.25991818 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1322313;1447289029;BingoBoingo;;;more 1322314;1447289029;gribble;average: 317.606641845 1322315;1447289035;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo is it just me or did quantcast go stupid ? 1322316;1447289057;BingoBoingo;It went very stupid about a month or so ago with "new dashboard" 1322317;1447289065;mircea_popescu;do we still link to them ? 1322318;1447289085;gabriel_laddel;whaack: the masamune respository has not been updated in some time, and many things have changed. I'll be picking up the parts for another machine tomorrow, and will be automating the (currently manual) build process from there. 1322319;1447289095;mircea_popescu;yeah. listen, take that !-- Quantcast Tag -- stuff out. 1322320;1447289113;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: We do 1322321;1447289118;mircea_popescu;cool. 1322322;1447289119;BingoBoingo;alright 1322323;1447289134;mircea_popescu;da fuck is with all these people, namecheap went stupid, quantcast went stupid, they're just falling into their own kabukihole 1322324;1447289168;gabriel_laddel;whaack: until I've more resources, you'll have to install on top of a Dell Precision M4400, which you can pick up from anywhere between 80 and 120 usd. 1322325;1447289172;mircea_popescu;whole heap of "oh we'll make our bitcoinxt subreddit and everyone will come there!!11" crickets "oh hey look at this nobody gave a shit!" 1322326;1447289258;shinohai;Roger Ver favorited my tweet where I made fun of him for ragequitting r/bitcoin 1322327;1447289329;BingoBoingo;Ok, quantcast is now shunned 1322328;1447289460;mircea_popescu;there is no fucking stable solution to this problem for crying out loud, to have html you need a standard. the moment you have a standard you're stuck with the progre. 1322329;1447289484;mircea_popescu;then your thing doesn't work anymore and the progre's holding conferences. 1322330;1447289603;whaack;gabriel_laddel: Alright, I'll look into getting one. 1322331;1447289637;*;BingoBoingo also ripped out some ie friendly hacks while ripping. 1322332;1447289822;BingoBoingo;So, without the quantcast shit, qntra loaded here in 610 ms 1322333;1447290298;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322328 << counterexamples are plentiful but they all involve zero-people-born-after-1985-or-so sorta thing. e.g., there are no z80 'conferences.' 1322334;1447290298;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 00:51:00; mircea_popescu: there is no fucking stable solution to this problem for crying out loud, to have html you need a standard. the moment you have a standard you're stuck with the progre. 1322335;1447290329;asciilifeform;it is possible to have something like a standard with something like sanity. 1322336;1447290346;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00055465 = 4.5204 BTC [-] {2} 1322337;1447290401;asciilifeform;https://cryptome.org/2015/11/protonmail-ddos.htm << i'm not convinced cryptome turned. 1322338;1447290402;assbot;ProtonMail Allegedly Proxied by Israeli Firm with IDF Links ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBPpo6 ) 1322339;1447290433;asciilifeform;'Likely the DDoS attack on ProtonMail was orchestrated to follow with an offer of generous "help" it could not refuse, necessarily a re-route of all traffic through third-party "anti-DDoS" systems.' 1322340;1447291688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5444 @ 0.0005587 = 3.0416 BTC [+] {2} 1322341;1447291749;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5706 @ 0.00056115 = 3.2019 BTC [+] {2} 1322342;1447292176;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00055685 = 2.5058 BTC [-] 1322343;1447292892;BingoBoingo;Pls let me know if I broke anything on Qntra 1322344;1447293758;mircea_popescu;!up bp 1322345;1447293760;mircea_popescu;!up DrDeke 1322346;1447293762;mircea_popescu;!up iovk 1322347;1447293923;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo nice huh. 1322348;1447293966;BingoBoingo;Seriously. I deleting some other shit while I was deleting shit. 1322349;1447294241;mircea_popescu;necessarily a re-route of all traffic through third-party "anti-DDoS" systems.' << run moar cloudflare! 1322350;1447294454;asciilifeform;aha, it 1322351;1447294616;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00055627 = 3.3376 BTC [-] {2} 1322352;1447294738;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4411 @ 0.00055422 = 2.4447 BTC [-] {2} 1322353;1447294982;mod6;whaack: hi, yeah thanks for asking. 'v.pl' could certainly use some testing help. additionally, when I get my rotor+v script finished (hopefully soon), will have that to test as well. 1322354;1447295023;asciilifeform;did i ever tell anybody that the whole motherfuckin orchestra was called... motor ? 1322355;1447295039;BingoBoingo;I suspected 1322356;1447295043;asciilifeform;(stator + rotor + misc.) 1322357;1447295063;mod6;ah 1322358;1447295064;BingoBoingo;Oh, you aren't going to call misc "The Windings" 1322359;1447295268;mod6;whaack: as far as programming help, probably the best place to start is to read all of the current vpatches and understand the changes, and be able to build the R.I. up through the latest. 1322360;1447296141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00055996 = 3.0798 BTC [+] {2} 1322361;1447296995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14893 @ 0.00056226 = 8.3737 BTC [+] 1322362;1447297056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6157 @ 0.00056337 = 3.4687 BTC [+] {2} 1322363;1447297429;mircea_popescu;jesus this latest al pacino move is unwatchable. 1322364;1447297449;mircea_popescu;who the fuck came up with the bright idea of editing together retirement home surveillance footage. 1322365;1447297787;BingoBoingo;lol 1322366;1447298764;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056352 = 1.9723 BTC [+] 1322367;1447299618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00056352 = 9.6644 BTC [+] {2} 1322368;1447301692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7951 @ 0.00056353 = 4.4806 BTC [+] {2} 1322369;1447301777;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b21 1322370;1447301778;deedbot-;[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Cardano to Ship in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#b14 1322371;1447302302;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5992 @ 0.00056466 = 3.3834 BTC [+] {2} 1322372;1447303644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00055654 = 4.341 BTC [-] {3} 1322373;1447304132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9108 @ 0.00055499 = 5.0548 BTC [-] 1322374;1447305108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10202 @ 0.00055416 = 5.6535 BTC [-] 1322375;1447305616;BingoBoingo;reddiception https://archive.is/izqyA 1322376;1447305617;assbot;[Mod PSA] Anabolic oak : Steroidsourcetalk ... ( http://bit.ly/1HJcY98 ) 1322377;1447305796;BingoBoingo;2011-2013 never happened on the internet 1322378;1447306084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00055416 = 4.1839 BTC [-] 1322379;1447306086;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322020 << I don't see it. nobody cares about those folks, and they don't own anything. Facebook might have paid $5k "corporate tax", but they have 100,000+ sq feet office and I dunno, 500-1000 employees in UK? 1322380;1447306086;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 17:30:58; pete_dushenski: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crickhowell-welsh-town-moves-offshore-to-avoid-tax-on-local-business-a6728971.html << just as crafty as >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-11-2015#1321288 1322381;1447306205;punkman;"coffee shop owner Steve said: “I have always paid every penny of tax I owe, and I don’t object to that. What I object to is paying my full tax when my big name competitors are doing the damnedest to dodge theirs.”" 1322382;1447306432;punkman;re: steel mouse, I lol'd https://dixunusmoumzz.cloudfront.net/filer_public/8b/92/8b928275-ef62-4464-be86-a6cc64a8cf36/sensei_leadin_proof2_r.png 1322383;1447306434;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HJdTGC ) 1322384;1447306994;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322216 << therealbitcoin needs patches, considering http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1317120 1322385;1447306994;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 21:02:55; whaack: I've looked at it, and I saw in the comments it needed testing so I figured maybe that's where I could start. 1322386;1447306994;assbot;Logged on 05-11-2015 13:08:25; jurov: i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync 1322387;1447307182;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00055416 = 3.5466 BTC [-] 1322388;1447307614;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322242 << they throw rocks here, and broken sidewalk pieces, and molotovs. and they hit (armored) cops with sticks and pipes. and some kids beat up a politician outside the parliament the other day. but seems to have the same effect as otherwise peaceful protest. 1322389;1447307614;assbot;Logged on 11-11-2015 21:26:30; mircea_popescu: If you hold a protest and you aren't throwing rocks it will fail. I'm not telling you to throw rocks, I'm explaining why your march won't work. 1322390;1447308888;mircea_popescu;!up rmoen__ 1322391;1447308939;rmoen__;mircea_popescu: oh ty 1322392;1447309001;mircea_popescu;sure. who're you ? 1322393;1447309012;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0005598 = 1.4555 BTC [+] 1322394;1447309165;rmoen__;mircea_popescu: just a person interested in the things 1322395;1447309182;mircea_popescu;aite. 1322396;1447309683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.0005598 = 4.1705 BTC [+] 1322397;1447309881;punkman;"This was clearly a wrong decision so let us be clear to all future attackers – ProtonMail will NEVER pay another ransom." << ddos-geld is bad, so we only pay anti-ddos-geld now 1322398;1447309903;mircea_popescu;heh 1322399;1447310014;punkman;https://www.gofundme.com/protonmaildefense $57k huh 1322400;1447310016;assbot;Support the ProtonMail Defense Fund by Andy Yen - GoFundMe ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxE2O ) 1322401;1447310036;deedbot-;[Qntra] Yik Yak Use Leads To Arrest - http://qntra.net/2015/11/yik-yak-use-leads-to-arrest/ 1322402;1447310056;punkman;"Just spent 500$ and am feeling great about it. The DDOS is most likely done by a government agency i suspect" 1322403;1447310080;BingoBoingo;"whose attempt to resign his position after student uproar over his decision to dare holding class and an exam on Wednesday is not being recognized by the University" 1322404;1447310099;mircea_popescu;wait. what ?! 1322405;1447310101;BingoBoingo;Apparently only Presidents and Chancellors can resign 1322406;1447310122;mircea_popescu;how can you not "recognize" someone quitting. 1322407;1447310148;BingoBoingo;quitting is triggering to the fee-fees 1322408;1447310153;mircea_popescu;so ? 1322409;1447310187;BingoBoingo;leik http://www.komu.com/news/mu-professor-resigns/ 1322410;1447310203;BingoBoingo;"A University of Missouri spokesperson said the resignation was not accepted from a professor who came under fire for an email he sent to a student after threats against the university surfaced on social media." 1322411;1447310208;BingoBoingo;Spokespeople apparently 1322412;1447310275;BingoBoingo;Seriously, this is cultural fukushima 1322413;1447310295;mircea_popescu;George, in his apartment with Maura: "And so, for all these reasons, we are 1322414;1447310296;mircea_popescu;officially broken up. Thank you, and good night." 1322415;1447310296;mircea_popescu;Maura: "No, George, we're not." 1322416;1447310296;mircea_popescu;George: "But I proved it!" 1322417;1447310296;mircea_popescu;Maura: "I refuse to give up on this relationship. It's like launching 1322418;1447310296;mircea_popescu;missiles from a submarine. Both of use have to turn our keys." 1322419;1447310298;mircea_popescu;George: "Well, then, I am gonna have to ask you to turn your key." 1322420;1447310300;mircea_popescu;Maura: "I'm sorry, George, I can't do that." 1322421;1447310964;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0005598 = 1.0356 BTC [+] 1322422;1447311025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00056165 = 2.5274 BTC [+] 1322423;1447312674;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mitch_callahan wouldja fix that connection. 1322424;1447312674;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1322425;1447312985;punkman;https://www.cloudflare.com/dnssec/root-signing-ceremony/ 1322426;1447312986;assbot;The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDAASW ) 1322427;1447313262;mircea_popescu;https://archive.is/2FXIa for people who have cloudflare nullrouted. it's pretty fucking dumb / usual vapid fare. 1322428;1447313263;assbot;The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1O525mI ) 1322429;1447313282;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.0005592 = 11.0442 BTC [-] {5} 1322430;1447313290;mircea_popescu;and no, contrary to all the pompous / ceremonious bullshit, there's no security there nor any measure of trust worth the mention. 1322431;1447313309;mircea_popescu;dinosaurs and other fossils from a pre-bitcoin world trying their best to not have noticed. 1322432;1447313616;mircea_popescu;"The Ceremony Administrator boots the laptop from a DVD" << example of "security". 1322433;1447316210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00055155 = 11.4998 BTC [-] {3} 1322434;1447317003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8091 @ 0.00054813 = 4.4349 BTC [-] {3} 1322435;1447317064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9469 @ 0.00054783 = 5.1874 BTC [-] {2} 1322436;1447317186;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00055446 = 1.1921 BTC [+] 1322437;1447317552;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6083 @ 0.00054685 = 3.3265 BTC [-] {2} 1322438;1447319626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00055446 = 1.1089 BTC [+] 1322439;1447322615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00054814 = 3.3985 BTC [+] {2} 1322440;1447323408;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4413 @ 0.00055416 = 2.4455 BTC [+] {3} 1322441;1447323713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00055646 = 1.4746 BTC [+] {2} 1322442;1447324227;punkman;http://www.itmustbecollege.com/uploads/cscd9pz8qo.jpg 1322443;1447324228;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5bGK6 ) 1322444;1447327739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00055405 = 2.5486 BTC [-] 1322445;1447327922;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4145 @ 0.00055212 = 2.2885 BTC [-] 1322446;1447328044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4935 @ 0.00055532 = 2.7405 BTC [+] {2} 1322447;1447329752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00055648 = 1.6694 BTC [+] 1322448;1447330484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00055765 = 7.0822 BTC [+] {3} 1322449;1447333046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6369 @ 0.00055789 = 3.5532 BTC [+] {2} 1322450;1447333107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10120 @ 0.00055742 = 5.6411 BTC [-] {2} 1322451;1447333290;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2705 @ 0.00055212 = 1.4935 BTC [-] 1322452;1447333351;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5429 @ 0.0005517 = 2.9952 BTC [-] 1322453;1447333412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7326 @ 0.00056127 = 4.1119 BTC [+] {4} 1322454;1447334754;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00055136 = 2.7017 BTC [-] {2} 1322455;1447335913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00055192 = 2.1525 BTC [+] 1322456;1447335974;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00055192 = 1.4074 BTC [+] 1322457;1447337011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00056183 = 2.1911 BTC [+] 1322458;1447337865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00055491 = 2.1364 BTC [-] 1322459;1447338692;deedbot-;[Qntra] US Supreme Court to Weigh Total Pre-Trial Asset Freezes - http://qntra.net/2015/11/us-supreme-court-to-weigh-total-pre-trial-asset-freezes/ 1322460;1447339247;BingoBoingo;^ Repeat of Dotcom lulz, but this time a domestic case 1322461;1447339677;BingoBoingo;!up whaack 1322462;1447340488;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00056204 = 2.754 BTC [+] {2} 1322463;1447341037;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00055491 = 2.6636 BTC [-] 1322464;1447341281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7038 @ 0.00055491 = 3.9055 BTC [-] 1322465;1447342074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00056184 = 1.208 BTC [+] 1322466;1447343172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00055859 = 2.7092 BTC [-] 1322467;1447343477;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15062 @ 0.00055058 = 8.2928 BTC [-] {3} 1322468;1447343538;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00056178 = 2.1909 BTC [+] {3} 1322469;1447344514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00056605 = 4.9246 BTC [+] {3} 1322470;1447345207;punkman;in local lulz, ruling party SYRIZA published a press release, urging everyone to join today's 24h general strike against austerity 1322471;1447345974;BingoBoingo;lol 1322472;1447345983;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1322473;1447346332;punkman;http://www.firmware.re/dynamicanalysis/ 1322474;1447346332;assbot;firmware · ǝɹ - Free Online Firmware Unpacker, Scanner, Analyser - Firmware Genomics/Genome Project - Firmware Vulnerability and Backdoor Discovery - Firmware Mounting, Modification, Loading and Emulation - Embedded and Internet-of-Things Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNsuXP ) 1322475;1447346405;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00056335 = 6.1405 BTC [+] {3} 1322476;1447346427;ascii_field;punkman: the basic problem with this paper is that the subset of embedded gadgets which can be meaningfully emulated without extensive reversing is more or less nil. 1322477;1447346544;mitch_callahan;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-11-2015#1322423 << sorry MP, this thing went on the fritz. 1322478;1447346544;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 07:17:54; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mitch_callahan wouldja fix that connection. 1322479;1447346663;punkman;ascii_field: what is "meaningful" emulation? 1322480;1447346673;ascii_field;punkman: where the thing ~actually runs~ 1322481;1447346685;ascii_field;instead of looking for some i/o thing that isn't there in qemu because wtf 1322482;1447346691;lobbes;mitch_callahan: you got a bouncer? There's always BNC4free to get you started 1322483;1447346747;ascii_field;;;later tell mircea_popescu https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/securus-hack-prison-phone-company-exposes-thousands-of-calls-lawyers-and-clients << mega-l0lz. summary: client-attorney privilege canceled entirely in usa. 1322484;1447346750;assbot;Massive Hack of 70 Million Prisoner Phone Calls Indicates Violations of Attorney-Client Privilege ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6SXT9 ) 1322485;1447346750;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1322486;1447346777;ascii_field;'Particularly notable within the vast trove of phone records are what appear to be at least 14,000 recorded conversations between inmates and attorneys, a strong indication that at least some of the recordings are likely confidential and privileged legal communications — calls that never should have been recorded in the first place. ' 1322487;1447346936;ascii_field;'Going forward, prisoners will have very good cause to question whether their phone calls with their attorneys are confidential.' 1322488;1447346973;ascii_field;and naturally, the perpetrator is in full ashleymadison mode, 1322489;1447346975;ascii_field;'It is very important to note that we have found absolutely no evidence of attorney-client calls that were recorded without the knowledge and consent of those parties. Our calling systems include multiple safeguards to prevent this from occurring.' 1322490;1447347027;mitch_callahan;lobbes i'm not familiar with bouncers. i'll take a look. thank you. 1322491;1447347073;punkman;"In many jurisdictions — including in Austin — the onus is on lawyers or their clients to give phone numbers to prison officials so that they can be placed on a do-not-record list. Failing to provide up-to-date contact information would make any inadvertent recordings the attorney’s or inmate’s fault." 1322492;1447347137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00055971 = 3.6941 BTC [-] 1322493;1447347707;ascii_field;'the court will decide whether the government can freeze all of a defendant’s assets before trial, even those the government itself concedes aren’t tainted by any connection to criminality, thus effectively preventing that defendant from paying for his own defense. Of course, the government won’t admit that this is why it is freezing the assets. The claim is that it should be able to freeze enough property to 1322494;1447347707;ascii_field;cover any judgment that may be issued against the defendant. But the Supreme Court rarely questions the motives of state actors. If the prosecution can plausibly claim it is freezing the assets for the right reasons, that’s generally good enough.' 1322495;1447347750;ascii_field;i've said it before, and will repeat for the n00bz: 1322496;1447347751;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770468 1322497;1447347751;assbot;Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms. 1322498;1447347806;ascii_field;the only 'defense attorney' that makes any kind of sense in modern usa is the same kind as made sense on the front in 1942: a frag in your pocket. with which to blow yourself and the arresting polizei. 1322499;1447347826;ben_vulpes;!up ascii_field 1322500;1447348044;*;ben_vulpes is too uncaffinated yet to even dig up mircea_popescu's insurance policy 1322501;1447348113;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: for all i know, he's buried nukes in ten thousand and one places. i was speaking of ~the rest of us~ 1322502;1447348136;ascii_field;the meat. 1322503;1447348207;ben_vulpes;you don't recall the "have assets seized, be in wot get recompensated" deed? 1322504;1447348234;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319527 1322505;1447348234;assbot;Logged on 07-11-2015 23:21:37; asciilifeform: 'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic) 1322506;1447348261;ben_vulpes;and yes, coke machine, still in usaschwitz, lizard hitler will never allow a defense attorney etc etc 1322507;1447348287;*;ben_vulpes does not in2 russian 1322508;1447348300;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: there was a rough translation in the thread 1322509;1447348341;ben_vulpes;aha 1322510;1447348363;ben_vulpes;a wasp, a wasp, my 401k for a wasp 1322511;1447348376;ascii_field;ten thousand wasps. 1322512;1447348491;ascii_field;unfortunately the ten thousand qualified people on the planet all have full calendars, booked with fucking goats, donkeys, installing windows-98-jihad-version with usgcrypt, and cleaning kalash with piss. in kandahar. 1322513;1447348610;ben_vulpes;i prefer the kandaharis in kandahar, tyvm. 1322514;1447348792;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: if monkeys from the congo turn up in london with spears, it is not because a monkey has invented airplane and spear 1322515;1447348796;ascii_field;but because a man willed it. 1322516;1447348817;punkman;http://motherboard.vice.com/read/in-monkey-selfie-lawsuit-lawyer-in-chippendales-garb-is-the-reasonable-one 1322517;1447348821;assbot;In Monkey Selfie Lawsuit, Lawyer in Chippendales Suit Is the Reasonable One | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRhHeB ) 1322518;1447349451;mircea_popescu;hola pochoclos! 1322519;1447349550;BingoBoingo;hola 1322520;1447349972;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1322521;1447350004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00055799 = 2.3994 BTC [-] 1322522;1447350067;shinohai;Preet strikes again! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-arrests-two-venezuelans-who-say-theyre-related-to-president-maduro/2015/11/12/ee4c2d64-8954-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html 1322523;1447350068;assbot;U.S. arrests two Venezuelans who say they’re related to President Maduro - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy48Cj ) 1322524;1447350122;mircea_popescu;lol for that reason ? 1322525;1447350144;ascii_field;for dope 1322526;1447350254;mircea_popescu;heh. 1322527;1447350289;mircea_popescu;venezuela is such nk... 1322528;1447350290;mircea_popescu;\ 1322529;1447350310;BingoBoingo;Oh, the new Mizzou system president is racially ambiguous leaning towards octaroon http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/michael-a-middleton-named-as-interim-president-of-university-of/article_62a31cf0-d2df-52e0-9079-92ebf4ae2751.html 1322530;1447350311;assbot;Michael A. Middleton named as interim president of University of Missouri system : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy4Cbq ) 1322531;1447350323;BingoBoingo;Or just funky lighting 1322532;1447350330;ascii_field;nk et al are exhaust products of usg metabolism 1322533;1447350391;ascii_field;(in that any earnest attempt to ~really~ keep the tendrils out of a country result in something recognizably nk-esque) 1322534;1447350433;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322470 << you going ? 1322535;1447350433;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 16:20:07; punkman: in local lulz, ruling party SYRIZA published a press release, urging everyone to join today's 24h general strike against austerity 1322536;1447350473;BingoBoingo;and another "terroristc threat" but this one is in bumfuck nowhere http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/northwest-missouri-state-freshman-posted-social-media-threat-to-shoot/article_f22a2b40-0da0-579a-b952-9be51e4f1700.html 1322537;1447350474;assbot;Northwest Missouri State freshman posted social media threat to shoot black people, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRnf8J ) 1322538;1447350482;mircea_popescu;ascii_field i disagree. intelligent attempts result in something like lybia. determined attempts result in somewthing like cuba/venezuela/nk etc. 1322539;1447350504;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: notice that one is still here and the other - not so much 1322540;1447350546;mircea_popescu;was for a while. nothing lasts forever : will-based systems go the way of russia once the will is out ; intelligence based systems go the way of lybia once the intelligence's out. 1322541;1447350579;mircea_popescu;(and no, before you ask : "dictatorship of the law" is the sure mark of a man out of ideas.) 1322542;1447350603;ascii_field;the man only ever had this one idea, afaik. 1322543;1447350610;mircea_popescu;it isn't an idea. 1322544;1447350632;mircea_popescu;it's the clenched teeth after having trying to think and managing to exhaust oneself. 1322545;1447350647;ascii_field;it was a fire extinguisher. su was swarming with filth eagerly cutting the whole shebang apart for sale to the highest bidder. the extermination of said scum was the only possible objective for a sane king. 1322546;1447350660;ascii_field;afaik he failed. 1322547;1447350664;mircea_popescu;not so, but it'll have to be good enough. 1322548;1447350726;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322474 << now that's interesting. what say you ascii_field ? 1322549;1447350726;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 16:38:52; assbot: firmware · ǝɹ - Free Online Firmware Unpacker, Scanner, Analyser - Firmware Genomics/Genome Project - Firmware Vulnerability and Backdoor Discovery - Firmware Mounting, Modification, Loading and Emulation - Embedded and Internet-of-Things Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNsuXP ) 1322550;1447350733;ascii_field;^see thread 1322551;1447350744;ascii_field;idiot grantsmanship. 1322552;1447350752;*;ascii_field read the paper 1322553;1447350765;mircea_popescu;mk. 1322554;1447350793;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322484 << awww. obviously the only thing i can say i've already said. http://trilema.com/2012/why-its-not-actually-in-your-best-interest-to-allow-a-hired-third-party-to-speak-for-you-in-criminal-proceedings/ 1322555;1447350793;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 16:45:50; assbot: Massive Hack of 70 Million Prisoner Phone Calls Indicates Violations of Attorney-Client Privilege ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6SXT9 ) 1322556;1447350793;assbot;Why it's not actually in your best interest to allow a hired third party to speak for you in criminal proceedings on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy5soK ) 1322557;1447350798;mircea_popescu;i guess i add it as a comment 1322558;1447350805;ascii_field;they took a page from the classic book of tricks for usg academe - 'pretend that the parts you didn't touch are irrelevant' 1322559;1447350810;ascii_field;(this re: the fw thing) 1322560;1447351102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00055799 = 2.9573 BTC [-] 1322561;1447351115;mircea_popescu;ascii_field ftr, that "hack" appears to have been a leak. 1322562;1447351122;ascii_field;aha, saw 1322563;1447351149;ascii_field;the lulzy part is, as always, that there existed what to leak 1322564;1447351184;punkman;mircea_popescu: << you going ? << what, on strike? 1322565;1447351190;mircea_popescu;yea 1322566;1447351202;punkman;I don't job 1322567;1447351203;mircea_popescu;well, not necessarily, just i dunno, to hang out with the angry dumb girlies. 1322568;1447351213;*;mircea_popescu sometimes goes to these things. 1322569;1447351236;mircea_popescu;"honey, if you put half the energy you waste on this stupid shit into sucking cock you wouldn't have any of the problems killing you atm." 1322570;1447351240;mircea_popescu;"wutwutwut/!?!?!!?" 1322571;1447351243;*;ascii_field went habitually to the 'occupy' thing when it was a thing, was disappointed 1322572;1447351249;punkman;gotta be in Athens for these things 1322573;1447351255;mircea_popescu;ascii_field i bet you you don't harrangue the participants. 1322574;1447351259;ascii_field;did too. 1322575;1447351265;ascii_field;just not a specialist at it. 1322576;1447351292;mircea_popescu;ah then im surprised it was disappointing. 1322577;1447351296;mircea_popescu;usually it's comedic gold. 1322578;1447351309;*;ascii_field is atrociously bad at meat, and this is not a mega-seekrit 1322579;1447351323;mircea_popescu;depending, one sometimes needs backup. but it's funny how "the people" changes once it's no longer in a group that supports it. 1322580;1447351364;ascii_field;plus my local (wash. d.c.) gaggle of idiots was perhaps 85% fellow gawkers & idlers by weight and by volume 1322581;1447351407;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00055717 = 4.6524 BTC [-] {3} 1322582;1447351408;ascii_field;the most memorable thing was when i got invited to a party held by the white clean-cut university types who organized the whole charade 1322583;1447351424;mircea_popescu;well yeah, that goes without saying. student means vagabond and "university town" means tramp central. 1322584;1447351425;ascii_field;it was surreal, like something out of those old 1950s pamphlets about cpusa 1322585;1447351563;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322515 << methinks this man thinks too much of himself. 1322586;1447351563;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 17:19:56; ascii_field: but because a man willed it. 1322587;1447351569;mircea_popescu;do you also will the cockroaches in new york ? 1322588;1447351595;ascii_field;last i was in nyc it was infested with roaches but not with hyenas. why might that be? 1322589;1447351649;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322558 << didn't read the paper yet, but are the parts they touched irrelevant? 1322590;1447351649;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 17:53:25; ascii_field: they took a page from the classic book of tricks for usg academe - 'pretend that the parts you didn't touch are irrelevant' 1322591;1447351676;ascii_field;punkman: read it. they decided that a bare qemu 'arm' is sufficient simulation for, e.g., a router. 1322592;1447351690;ascii_field;that you don't actually need the peripherals for anything. 1322593;1447351696;mircea_popescu;ascii_field no "gotta start somewhere" defense ? 1322594;1447351707;punkman;abstract said they were looking at web interfaces specifically 1322595;1447351713;ascii_field;mircea_popescu: generalizing to 'firmware' costs you this defense. 1322596;1447351722;mircea_popescu;k. 1322597;1447351743;ascii_field;it is what i call 'obscurantist projector' 1322598;1447351757;ascii_field;shine light in the idiot www stack to blind eyes to the low-level strange. 1322599;1447351773;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00056668 = 2.5784 BTC [+] 1322600;1447351783;mircea_popescu;im so looking forward to moving entirely off the www already... 1322601;1447351795;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322602;1447351796;mircea_popescu;or more properly said : to finally splitting the fake-www chain from www. 1322603;1447351904;*;ascii_field has this lined up, yes 1322604;1447351936;*;ascii_field will get back to this as soon as he figures out how he'll eat in 2016 1322605;1447352505;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27332 @ 0.00057061 = 15.5959 BTC [+] {3} 1322606;1447352695;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY 1322607;1447352696;assbot;Tom Lehrer - Poisoning Pigeons In The Park - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDLh6L ) 1322608;1447352810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2945 @ 0.00056929 = 1.6766 BTC [-] 1322609;1447352991;ben_vulpes;ascii_field: on the topic of food for 2016, your tmsr~ work is splendid portfolio material. i'm sure you're aware and will object that "but it doesn't help me eat today!". 1322610;1447353417;BingoBoingo;!up stf621 1322611;1447353450;stf621;hei 1322612;1447353489;BingoBoingo;hai thar 1322613;1447353492;stf621;ty BingoBoingo 1322614;1447353597;stf621;so..what do you say about a project about tress, planting they..maybe in al EU 1322615;1447353763;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1322616;1447353772;BingoBoingo;What kinds of tress? 1322617;1447353836;stf621;fir, spruce, pine..because we need this 1322618;1447353867;stf621;something like earthday 1322619;1447353888;BingoBoingo;Europe has enough trees, it needs more bears 1322620;1447353906;BingoBoingo;Or maybe reintroduce lions into the wild 1322621;1447353951;jurov;stf621: here they plant themselves, thanks 1322622;1447353969;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00057185 = 5.7757 BTC [+] {2} 1322623;1447354038;mircea_popescu;hmm, anyone know how you say salt fermented curd in english ? 1322624;1447354113;mircea_popescu;i don't get it, stf621 , you plant trees ? 1322625;1447354172;stf621;nope, but i want, i want to make something like this 1322626;1447354218;lobbes;well, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago ;/ 1322627;1447354219;mircea_popescu;but what do you do ? 1322628;1447354267;stf621;to sustain nature and things like this, and...i have another plans, with my life, one of ..is to ,,help,, this planet 1322629;1447354274;stf621;i.m student 1322630;1447354286;mircea_popescu;oh, you're a student, okay. studying what ? 1322631;1447354287;stf621;info 1322632;1447354289;BingoBoingo; hmm, anyone know how you say salt fermented curd in english ? << fromunda 1322633;1447354314;mircea_popescu;wouldn't it be better if you fixed the software and let the agriculture/forestry students plant the trees ? 1322634;1447354328;mircea_popescu;the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks. 1322635;1447354392;jurov;stf621: i have met several people who were set on plating trees, but observing how nature does it itself was beyond them 1322636;1447354404;jurov;the results were obviously not very good 1322637;1447354443;ben_vulpes;i want to use acorns for a calorie base. 1322638;1447354449;ben_vulpes;if we're talking about bad ideas. 1322639;1447354453;mircea_popescu;im sure there's an agar for that. 1322640;1447354459;mircea_popescu;;;google acorn based agar 1322641;1447354459;gribble;THE BALLS JOKES OMG (Agar.io) - YouTube: ; ACCEPT MY BALLS!! l AGAR.IO - YouTube: ; Doctor Acorn - A free Puzzle Game - Miniclip: 1322642;1447354473;mircea_popescu;google, go fucking marry britni already. 1322643;1447354502;lobbes;!b 4 1322644;1447354503;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22VBPF1.txt ) 1322645;1447354536;ben_vulpes;my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs. 1322646;1447354573;stf621;mircea_popescu I thought about it 1322647;1447354638;stf621;anyway, i want to do semething, profi, i have some ideas, just to put in .. 1322648;1447354674;mircea_popescu;... 1322649;1447354697;mircea_popescu;auricular armor, stuff bounces right off. 1322650;1447354737;BingoBoingo;stf621: Seriously if you want to help nature skip the trees and go straight to reintroducing apex predators in Europe 1322651;1447354775;stf621;how it work bitcoin lottery? i don't have any for now, but i will 1322652;1447354792;mircea_popescu;what's your native language stf621 ? 1322653;1447354812;stf621;some pipl need this BingoBongo 1322654;1447354818;stf621;romanian 1322655;1447354828;mircea_popescu;o.O 1322656;1447354836;ben_vulpes;heh. 1322657;1447354855;BingoBoingo;stf621: But if lions eat some people the can do fine with less trees 1322658;1447354879;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you know lion never grew in europe. 1322659;1447354917;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: A species of lion did, but since it's gone go to the next best substitute, the African lion. 1322660;1447354944;mircea_popescu;nah, afaik europe was pretty much one forest. 1322661;1447354960;BingoBoingo;Greece was Europe at one point 1322662;1447354985;BingoBoingo;Yall jsut killed your felines early 1322663;1447354990;mircea_popescu;heh 1322664;1447355043;BingoBoingo;But best place to start lion replacement therapy in Europe is probably Italy 1322665;1447355058;stf621;hope in 5 years to accomplish some of my projects, if you want, it can be 1322666;1447355084;mircea_popescu;why 5 rahter than 4, or 6 ? 1322667;1447355154;stf621;all depends on my thoughts, what i do for..if i will need money, to do something, i will do 1322668;1447355167;stf621;maybe 3 1322669;1447355167;BingoBoingo;But stf621 if you must plant trees I recommend Toxicodendron, economically valuable for lacquer production 1322670;1447355194;stf621;hope next year to open my company 1322671;1447355255;BingoBoingo;Toxicodendron shrub varieties also useful for to plant under windows that attract jacking off perverts 1322672;1447355258;BingoBoingo;!up stf621 1322673;1447355311;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4932 @ 0.00056627 = 2.7928 BTC [-] 1322674;1447355324;stf621;somehow, i regret some decision, because i don't take them, when i was young,because parents..etc 1322675;1447355357;stf621;i go to study..i have some exam at math..fuck it.. 1322676;1447355376;BingoBoingo;Toxicodendron vernix makes great hedges 1322677;1447355437;punkman;https://cache-bitify.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Dorian-Nakamoto-Auction-1.jpg 1322678;1447355438;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1ks1fXw ) 1322679;1447355509;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency gbp 1322680;1447355513;stf621;eh, we need sheep too 1322681;1447355516;gribble;Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 214.2146, vol: 40200.42780874 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 213.42608, vol: 20891.94867 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 226.692929, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 215.524944, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 209.8899, vol: 0.132702 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 219.402119993, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last average: 214.935890576 1322682;1447355516;ascii_field;ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322609 << if i want to be caged and conscripted to bitcoin for usg, i know where to call, thx no thx 1322683;1447355516;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 18:29:51; ben_vulpes: ascii_field: on the topic of food for 2016, your tmsr~ work is splendid portfolio material. i'm sure you're aware and will object that "but it doesn't help me eat today!". 1322684;1447355540;mircea_popescu;lol but this is ... some unrelated dude ? 1322685;1447355540;BingoBoingo;stf621: sheep and goats actually love toxicodendron 1322686;1447355565;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all --currency eur 1322687;1447355572;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 303.943469, vol: 40018.02025396 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 310.94, vol: 146.17588 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 320.185219, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 304.282794, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 306.9899, vol: 13777.3657613 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 309.88999999, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last average: 304.447897861 1322688;1447355579;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 1322689;1447355587;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 327.49, vol: 40018.20082014 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 324.8, vol: 20888.93991 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 329.64, vol: 60934.79439881 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 344.99, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 327.88194, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 327.99511, vol: 193.03585746 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 333.906474989, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 1322690;1447355589;BingoBoingo;;;more 1322691;1447355590;gribble;average: 328.007813045 1322692;1447355608;ascii_field;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 << ersatz coffee, ww1 de. 1322693;1447355608;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs. 1322694;1447355614;ascii_field;and milled, too! 1322695;1447355622;asciilifeform;!up ascii_field 1322696;1447355735;stf621;thanks guys, i go to prepare something to eat, and so study -_- 1322697;1447355778;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you're not going to persist with this, are you ? 1322698;1447355796;BingoBoingo;Nah, price is boring 1322699;1447355800;mircea_popescu;no the voicing 1322700;1447355812;BingoBoingo;Ah, prolly not 1322701;1447355836;stf621;oh 1322702;1447355850;mircea_popescu;tho i must confess it does add the valuable "oh, go plant some trees all over europe" dismissal to an otherwise abundant arsenal. 1322703;1447355882;BingoBoingo;Would help though if suggested trees got more consideration 1322704;1447355916;mircea_popescu;when BingoBoingo builds his castle, he'll cultivate poison ivy for the walls 1322705;1447355936;stf621;i know this, and i dont want to do only this, it is one thing, i want a castle too 1322706;1447355939;BingoBoingo;And poison sumac for the hedges 1322707;1447355943;adlai;where's funkenstein when you need him 1322708;1447355951;BingoBoingo;and poison oak for the punji sticks 1322709;1447355977;adlai;stf621: your designated altcoin is http://woodcoin.org/ 1322710;1447355979;assbot;Woodcoin: Sustainable. Digital. Cash. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WUBdIe ) 1322711;1447356009;stf621;:)) 1322712;1447356121;trinque;mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot- 1322713;1447356166;*;BingoBoingo wonders if it is possible to get the "munchkin" mutation into larger felines. A colony a panthers with stubby legs in the paris slums would be adorable. 1322714;1447356172;trinque;I added a field to my db to track the URL which provided a deed, so I'll be able to use that to more conveniently group them into interesting categories 1322715;1447356195;adlai;how about archive.is-ing? 1322716;1447356218;trinque;adlai: yep occurred to me that this would be a decent general feature of the thing 1322717;1447356225;adlai;right now, assbot's links don't actually snapshot unless somebody visits them and initiates it 1322718;1447356235;stf621;have a nice day guys 1322719;1447356243;BingoBoingo;U2 1322720;1447356245;mircea_popescu;well if no one cares then no one cares. 1322721;1447356276;trinque;for now I think keep it simple, and then it could be revisited after I catch up on other deedbot- work 1322722;1447356365;trinque;adlai: to clarify, I took you to mean that deedbot- ends up doing its own archiving, which is what it's doing as a 1-off for the logs 1322723;1447356429;BingoBoingo;"When she told the doctor to treat her as he would treat someone of normal weight for her chronic knee pain,The doctor told her he would ask her to stop doing ruck marches, stop doing challenging hikes with too much gear and to stop competing in the triple jump. " 1322724;1447356464;trinque;but could be feature creep. it's already collecting useful things as is, like the gpg-1.4 wad 1322725;1447356492;trinque;nothing's stopping anyone from archiving a site himself and then making a deed of it 1322726;1447356547;adlai;sure, it simplifies to assume that the deeder maintains a copy of the preimage 1322727;1447356560;adlai;this is not, after all, deedbot-fs... 1322728;1447356629;trinque;right. 1322729;1447356685;BingoBoingo;So, no one's had any problems with qntra since I went deleting a bunch of parts 12 hours ago? Fuck, why was this shit there in the first place? (WordPress) 1322730;1447356709;mircea_popescu;noidea. what did yo uwipe ? 1322731;1447356711;BingoBoingo;Wordpress is why it was there 1322732;1447356748;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Bunch of XML RPC stuff, hooks for niche software no one uses liek "Windows Live Writer" 1322733;1447356766;mircea_popescu;oh. more power to ya. 1322734;1447356799;BingoBoingo;Also parts of some worthless function that dumps shit in the page header 1322735;1447356916;trinque;adlai: assuming a gossipd wotnet, and there being some way to retrieve things provided by your wot in a cryptographically sound manner, the logs would always be enough 1322736;1447356961;trinque;approximated by providing a signed hash of the thing when you link it via http 1322737;1447356994;adlai;but 'wotbox' requires a bit more complexity than that 1322738;1447357019;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00055699 = 5.2079 BTC [-] {3} 1322739;1447357062;punkman;deedbot must maintain copies of all bundles though 1322740;1447357087;punkman;trinque: btw why did you decide against bundles of hashes? 1322741;1447357126;trinque;I implemented the straightforward spec mircea_popescu made 1322742;1447357216;trinque;which is not to say that your method didn't work 1322743;1447357249;trinque;adlai: elaborate? 1322744;1447357327;*;adlai would rather elaborate once further along this process -> http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/#selection-43.133-47.1 1322745;1447357328;assbot;Basic Bitcoin Competency Certification on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/20Ppboq ) 1322746;1447357360;*;trinque nods 1322747;1447357412;adlai;wotbox is one use case for wot-and-blockchain-stuff-exchange, another could be http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318327 1322748;1447357412;assbot;Logged on 06-11-2015 16:56:54; jurov: and that's completely different than coinbr 1322749;1447357432;BingoBoingo;https://i.imgur.com/yBFiAe8.png << Rando internet derp doesn't understand Beetus has signs visible in an eye exam and that eye doctors are doctors 1322750;1447357432;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/20PplMD ) 1322751;1447357475;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1322752;1447358207;BingoBoingo;!up BTCTM 1322753;1447358543;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322712 < i hope someone checked i didnt (accidentally or not) replaced logs with the contents of bitcointalk 1322754;1447358543;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 19:22:01; trinque: mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot- 1322755;1447358560;mircea_popescu;im in the process of doing that. will take a bit. 1322756;1447358666;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00055013 = 5.0062 BTC [-] {2} 1322757;1447359868;BingoBoingo;!up ascii_field 1322758;1447361045;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00055619 = 5.2104 BTC [+] {2} 1322759;1447361350;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00055049 = 4.6516 BTC [-] {3} 1322760;1447364069;PeterL;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322637 << Doesn't acorn require significant processing to remove toxins before you can eat it safely? 1322761;1447364069;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 18:54:03; ben_vulpes: i want to use acorns for a calorie base. 1322762;1447364207;PeterL;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322659 << I could be wrong, but I thought the European Lion was more like the Asian Lion than the African Variety 1322763;1447364207;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 19:01:57; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A species of lion did, but since it's gone go to the next best substitute, the African lion. 1322764;1447364272;BingoBoingo;PeterL: They should have though about that earlier 1322765;1447364312;mircea_popescu;PeterL not THAT much. just feed it to a pig. 1322766;1447364321;PeterL;oh, and qntra seems extra zippy lately, its pretty refreshing when compared to any other news site 1322767;1447364323;BingoBoingo;Also acorns aren't poisonous, they just don't usually taste the best. 1322768;1447364336;BingoBoingo;Thank You PeterL 1322769;1447364440;mircea_popescu;win. 1322770;1447364798;ben_vulpes;BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out. 1322771;1447364848;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out. << Or you let the squirrels get them and eat the squirrels at your leisure 1322772;1447364879;ben_vulpes;see mircea_popescu's comment re pigs 1322773;1447364888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00055957 = 1.7347 BTC [+] 1322774;1447364900;PeterL;I think you can also crush them, boil, throw out the water, and then eat the sludge left over 1322775;1447364932;ben_vulpes;dry and mill, but yes. 1322776;1447364933;PeterL;but feeding to pigs (or goats) is probably the tastiest way 1322777;1447364956;BingoBoingo;Problems with pigs is the smell 1322778;1447365001;PeterL;you have slaves take care of the pigs, then you don't have to worry about the smell 1322779;1447365012;ben_vulpes;sure so barter them to the guy down the road with hogs 1322780;1447365017;mircea_popescu;now you gotta worry about the slaves 1322781;1447365072;BingoBoingo;Also pig farm smell carries quite a distance 1322782;1447365132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00055957 = 2.1543 BTC [+] 1322783;1447365254;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00055454 = 2.8004 BTC [-] 1322784;1447365804;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6752 @ 0.00055244 = 3.7301 BTC [-] 1322785;1447366230;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00056759 = 2.6393 BTC [+] 1322786;1447366784;funkenstein_;in related news from sus scrofa in occupied N.America: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGIMCmpfxU 1322787;1447366784;assbot;Hormel: USDA-Approved High Speed Slaughter Hell - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRZGfY ) 1322788;1447367572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00056551 = 4.61 BTC [-] {4} 1322789;1447367877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00056825 = 4.4892 BTC [+] {3} 1322790;1447368193;punkman;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sjxa5/cryptsy_is_having_trouble_sending_out_a_single/ 1322791;1447368194;assbot;Cryptsy is having trouble sending out a single BTC for over a week. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1PEDJC3 ) 1322792;1447368395;punkman;http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-usa-bitcoin-auction-idUSKCN0T12FA20151112 1322793;1447368396;assbot;Four bidders won $14 million worth of bitcoin in last U.S. auction| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1RS3gqF ) 1322794;1447368460;mircea_popescu;punkman someone tried to make a 0 btc bet as to whether "it survives". 1322795;1447368492;mircea_popescu;i suspect part of the reason it has a problem "sending even one btc" is that the collected capital of its ... customers, shall we call them that, is not much higher than one bitcoin. 1322796;1447368570;BingoBoingo;likely 1322797;1447368853;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00056893 = 1.7677 BTC [+] {2} 1322798;1447368991;kakobrekla;they did have at least 60 at some point http://imgur.com/AGuM9GK 1322799;1447368992;assbot;I have sent back the 60 BTC I was mistakenly able to withdraw from Cryptsy. If this affected you too, please do the same. Don't take someone else's bitcoin. Xmas is coming up : ) - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1PEEf2J ) 1322800;1447369087;mircea_popescu;i don't recognize that signature. 1322801;1447369341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4109 @ 0.00056894 = 2.3378 BTC [+] 1322802;1447369999;deedbot-;[Trilema] In Desperation of Cause, or Eulora November 15th Auction - http://trilema.com/2015/in-desperation-of-cause-or-eulora-november-15th-auction/ 1322803;1447371091;mircea_popescu;!up rdponticelli 1322804;1447372391;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7166 @ 0.00056769 = 4.0681 BTC [-] 1322805;1447373123;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0005679 = 2.5556 BTC [+] {2} 1322806;1447374099;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00056607 = 11.0101 BTC [-] {5} 1322807;1447374778;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks. << hahaha 1322808;1447374953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00056928 = 3.2449 BTC [+] {2} 1322809;1447375458;ben_vulpes;mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg 1322810;1447375459;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RSkgNj ) 1322811;1447375496;ben_vulpes;(in the spirit of showing things around before posting to the ml) 1322812;1447375539;ben_vulpes;i've included some barebones instructions on how to set up a cl for testing, shinohai. 1322813;1447375581;jurov;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 << roasted and milled various plant parts, including acorns, chicory roots, cereal grains are sold around here as coffee-alikes 1322814;1447375581;assbot;Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs. 1322815;1447375612;jurov;to this day, and they were widely used before "black coffee" was available 1322816;1447375645;jurov;done right, the taste is good and they are coffein-free and improve digestion 1322817;1447375708;jurov;!up referredbyqntra 1322818;1447375720;referredbyqntra;bithroat here 1322819;1447375736;jurov;who is bithroat? 1322820;1447375741;referredbyqntra;I have a scoop for you about coinbase, bitfinex and itbit 1322821;1447375755;referredbyqntra;i cannot tell you who i am 1322822;1447375767;referredbyqntra;but i have news that you can use on qntra 1322823;1447375771;jurov;you want to submit stuff to qntra? 1322824;1447375776;referredbyqntra;yes 1322825;1447375785;jurov;well, you need wot account then 1322826;1447375794;referredbyqntra;what is wot 1322827;1447375823;jurov;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets < see here 1322828;1447375824;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o ) 1322829;1447375891;referredbyqntra;i have a limited amount of time 1322830;1447375903;referredbyqntra;and story is big 1322831;1447375909;referredbyqntra;can i email them? 1322832;1447375937;referredbyqntra;i think its important 1322833;1447375946;mircea_popescu;ok so talk to me. 1322834;1447375955;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/ 1322835;1447375956;assbot;Contact : PGP on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHnPZ3 ) 1322836;1447376009;referredbyqntra;on coinbase. - they lost their silicon valey bank account because their risk was too high. now banking with silvergate (sp?) bank but on verge of losing that bank account 1322837;1447376078;mircea_popescu;aha. 1322838;1447376123;referredbyqntra;the us regulator on coinbase is closing in on big fine for violations on money laundering 1322839;1447376134;referredbyqntra;big fincen fine is copming 1322840;1447376185;referredbyqntra;inside email details an over 40 million dollar fine 1322841;1447376222;mircea_popescu;and you have that email ? 1322842;1447376232;referredbyqntra;on bitfinex - they lost there principal bank account and now use a taiwan bank account but 1322843;1447376257;referredbyqntra;may lose that bank account as taiwan has outlawed bitcoin usage 1322844;1447376268;referredbyqntra;i do not have the email it was read to me over phone 1322845;1447376306;mircea_popescu;uh ok. 1322846;1447376317;referredbyqntra;bitfinex is in big trouble and is struggling to stay open especially if they lose the taiwan bank account. 1322847;1447376357;mircea_popescu;so the part here that is documented isn't exactly news, on either of these two. the part that's be news apparently isn't documented. 1322848;1447376390;mircea_popescu;god knows i've been squeezing the door on bitfinex for years now, i don't know who exactly imagined they'll survive the process. anyway. 1322849;1447376444;kakobrekla;since words are water, whats with itbit then 1322850;1447376475;mircea_popescu;meh. 1322851;1447376493;referredbyqntra;itbit - investor friend told me that bank chain product is smoke and mirrors 1322852;1447376520;referredbyqntra;seeking new round of investment but fund raising stalled 1322853;1447376559;referredbyqntra;its arrivarderci to lead investore 1322854;1447376595;referredbyqntra;the exchange no profit so they do not have much longer 1322855;1447376614;mircea_popescu;arrivederci. 1322856;1447376772;mircea_popescu;anyway, listen referredbyqntra, make yourself a wot account, try and write any of these up to a reasonable standard, if you manage they'll prolly get approved. 1322857;1447376792;referredbyqntra;investore friend told me - soros group pulled out of lead role 1322858;1447376820;referredbyqntra;i cannot say no more 1322859;1447376834;mircea_popescu;until such a time you can peddle rumours on your own authority you'll be stuck building up that authority. so first, make a name, second, spend some time doing the job. 1322860;1447376861;referredbyqntra;ok do not believe me. but everyone will see 1322861;1447376953;referredbyqntra;thank you mircea my friend. i hope u will see that i speak truth 1322862;1447376967;mircea_popescu;statistically speaking that's a certainty. 1322863;1447376989;mircea_popescu;see also http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/ 1322864;1447376990;assbot;How to make money on the Internet while pretending you know what you're talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1InoNBI ) 1322865;1447376994;referredbyqntra;arrivederci 1322866;1447379040;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00057118 = 3.8269 BTC [+] {3} 1322867;1447380199;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2509 @ 0.00056976 = 1.4295 BTC [-] {3} 1322868;1447380205;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1322809 << neato 1322869;1447380205;assbot;Logged on 13-11-2015 00:44:18; ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg 1322870;1447380322;asciilifeform;;;later tell ben_vulpes pretty clean for a n00b project! will say more when i get a chance to actually run it. 1322871;1447380322;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1322872;1447380326;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes likes to surprise huh. 1322873;1447380520;*;asciilifeform not surprised 1322874;1447380982;mircea_popescu;shush and be surprised! 1322875;1447381025;asciilifeform;i promise to be surprised when mircea_popescu's fortran 'v' appears 1322876;1447381073;mircea_popescu;hehe 1322877;1447381114;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.0005723 = 2.5467 BTC [+] {3} 1322878;1447381121;asciilifeform;(and at some point we need incarnation of 'diff' that's not full of tard, yes) 1322879;1447381151;asciilifeform;'v' as we have it is sorta like those vietnamese swamp houses 1322880;1447381170;mircea_popescu;lol palustre housing 1322881;1447381541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00056494 = 3.4744 BTC [-] 1322882;1447381663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00056494 = 2.1468 BTC [-] 1322883;1447382883;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00057294 = 2.0626 BTC [+] 1322884;1447383060;phf;ooh exciting 1322885;1447387153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00056467 = 2.4478 BTC [-] {2} 1322886;1447387641;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00056251 = 1.2375 BTC [-] 1322887;1447387679;mircea_popescu;and here's wishing you a happy friday the 13th 1322888;1447387850;*;asciilifeform fondly recalls lulzy film '13th floor' 1322889;1447388139;mircea_popescu;newest Trilema article is hereby dedicated to asciilifeform, whose lacustre reference inspired me! 1322890;1447388373;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00055892 = 1.9003 BTC [-] {4} 1322891;1447388594;deedbot-;[Trilema] And then you never knew what this was... - http://trilema.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/ 1322892;1447389532;*;asciilifeform lacks the necessary lsd to properly absorb this 1322893;1447390386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7032 @ 0.00055743 = 3.9198 BTC [-] 1322894;1447390447;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2568 @ 0.00055241 = 1.4186 BTC [-] {2} 1322895;1447393253;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0005601 = 1.0642 BTC [+] 1322896;1447393741;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3854 @ 0.00056278 = 2.169 BTC [+] 1322897;1447395022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00056777 = 2.2075 BTC [+] 1322898;1447395754;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8124 @ 0.00055526 = 4.5109 BTC [-] {2} 1322899;1447397096;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7218 @ 0.00055146 = 3.9804 BTC [-] 1322900;1447397509;mircea_popescu;and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/06635b98d31d5cc03a93730b9089b526/tumblr_nrgwr3Dv1n1utdlodo1_1280.jpg 1322901;1447397510;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1RSUVTw ) 1322902;1447397767;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00055146 = 1.3787 BTC [-] 1322903;1447398025;trinque;http://trilema.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/ << I can only say that I read it five times and liked it more each. 1322904;1447398026;assbot;And then you never knew what this was... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHStS0 ) 1322905;1447398198;mircea_popescu;better lsd on the west coast ? 1322906;1447398263;trinque;I think I take your argument that it's not needed now. 1322907;1447398273;trinque;in this there is truly a psychological elsewhere 1322908;1447398682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2043 @ 0.00055087 = 1.1254 BTC [-] 1322909;1447398743;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00055006 = 2.8367 BTC [-] 1322910;1447398878;ben_vulpes;wonder of wonders 1322911;1447398897;ben_vulpes;insurance company is covering like 5 days in the hospital 1322912;1447399009;ben_vulpes;ty, asciilifeform! when you get around to it, please please please let me know in which ways i could improve it, or if there are mega-conceptual shifts i could effect within myself to do it better next time. 1322913;1447399027;mircea_popescu;ahh this place brings out the best in people. 1322914;1447399034;mircea_popescu;well... this and the maternity ward, at any rate. 1322915;1447399274;liquidassets;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321520 nuchal translucency -- 366.00 1322929;1447402449;BingoBoingo;Oh ben_vulpes is itemizing the bebe vulpes bill? 1322930;1447402477;ben_vulpes;no just the retarded bits 1322931;1447402544;BingoBoingo;It's an American hospital bill, you will find many there 1322932;1447402647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00054982 = 1.2646 BTC [-] 1322933;1447403043;ben_vulpes;whaack: your alma mater's ip is leaking 1322934;1447403060;ben_vulpes;!up whaack 1322935;1447403135;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.00056041 = 5.2107 BTC [+] 1322936;1447403172;ben_vulpes;is that dosser around still? 1322937;1447403540;ben_vulpes;!up moneycat 1322938;1447404233;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1889 @ 0.00055061 = 1.0401 BTC [-] {3} 1322939;1447405564;liquidassets;seemed like I got kicked off for a second ben_vulpes 1322940;1447408819;liquidassets;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 < gallons? 1322999;1447430396;mircea_popescu;let them do the math! 1323000;1447430413;mircea_popescu;ahe thestringpuller 1323001;1447430421;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the other thing is that a good petrol bomb includes a gelling agent 1323002;1447430436;asciilifeform;e.g., the styrofoam that was replaced with 'orange juice' by palahniuk's publisher 1323003;1447430447;asciilifeform;otherwise it tends to spread uselessly 1323004;1447430449;mircea_popescu;think the plastic in the bottle's not gonna be enough ? 1323005;1447430450;asciilifeform;and can be washed off 1323006;1447430465;asciilifeform;the bottle does not melt very quickly 1323007;1447430469;mircea_popescu;this is a point. 1323008;1447430474;mircea_popescu;im adding packing peanuts. 1323009;1447430484;punkman;glass bottle might be better 1323010;1447430491;asciilifeform;srsly this is what, three quarters of a century-old tech 1323011;1447430495;asciilifeform;not mega-s33kr1t 1323012;1447430517;mircea_popescu;punkman worse, not so available. 1323013;1447430524;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not so. beer. 1323014;1447430528;asciilifeform;today as it was then. 1323015;1447430557;punkman;a lot of beer :P 1323016;1447430559;asciilifeform;and glass bottles were used in ww2 su. lets you use phosphorus or some other fulminating agent to touch the thing off 1323017;1447430581;asciilifeform;(don't drop yer rucksack) 1323018;1447430584;*;shinohai finds no notable spelling errors in mircea_popescu 's article, enjoyed it. 1323019;1447430622;asciilifeform;the aspiring diversante is advised to see to it that his peanuts actually dissolve 1323020;1447430623;davout;easier to screw a cap on a plastic bottle tho 1323021;1447430628;mircea_popescu;done. 1323022;1447430636;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, aluminum 1323023;1447430638;asciilifeform;(iirc there are materials - tyvek? - which will not) 1323024;1447430661;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: plenty of glass beer bottles in usa 1323025;1447430661;mircea_popescu;ah good point 1323026;1447430672;*;asciilifeform has never once drank it out of aluminum 1323027;1447430714;asciilifeform;at any rate, i predict that no one will throw petrol bombs in usa, until after it becomes 'fusa' 1323028;1447430721;asciilifeform;(like fussr) 1323029;1447430821;mircea_popescu;aaand updated. 1323030;1447430849;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what people do is really besides the point. 1323031;1447430873;asciilifeform;'salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the selfsame drowning' (tm) (r) (ru church) 1323032;1447430962;deedbot-;[Trilema] A Blast From The Past, or, The Molotov Cocktail Guide. This is how you win. - http://trilema.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/ 1323033;1447431064;mircea_popescu;epic how the rss feed delay worked this time 1323034;1447431070;mircea_popescu;i got all the changes in just in timwe 1323035;1447431134;asciilifeform;no photo of packing peanuts ? 1323036;1447431135;asciilifeform;l0l 1323037;1447431138;mircea_popescu;lol 1323038;1447431202;asciilifeform;iirc the other reason for the thickening agent is to avoid 'leidenfrost effect' 1323039;1447431215;asciilifeform;where the petrol harmlessly boils off 1323040;1447431245;mircea_popescu;vapor insulator ? 1323041;1447431248;punkman;plastic bottle doesn't break, how will it spread the gas when thrown? 1323042;1447431252;mircea_popescu;not summer anymore, but yeah 1323043;1447431258;mircea_popescu;punkman it melts. 1323044;1447431276;punkman;so it lands and rolls around, then melts? 1323045;1447431289;mircea_popescu;it melts in flight if you're any good. 1323046;1447431309;asciilifeform;plastic is a poor choice unless target is stationary (e.g., the glass window of a nazi office). 1323047;1447431313;asciilifeform;it will roll harmlessly off a tank. 1323048;1447431330;mircea_popescu;you ever seen this ? 1323049;1447431357;mircea_popescu;the straw is there so you adjust for flight distance. 1323050;1447431381;punkman;sawdust is also an old staple, according to local lore at least 1323051;1447431395;mircea_popescu;yeah but where are they gonna get sawdust. 1323052;1447431402;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it isn't that it is entirely unworkable, but this takes you back to the 18th century, before impact detonator was a thing 1323053;1447431425;mircea_popescu;so let them develop some skill. 1323054;1447431434;asciilifeform;'assembly line with phd' 1323055;1447431442;mircea_popescu;no. 1323056;1447431457;mircea_popescu;"naturally arisisng social hierarchy". 1323057;1447431479;mircea_popescu;you want the dumbass "community organizers" to run into a group of people who have built natural respect for skill, tested in the field. 1323058;1447431507;mircea_popescu;unlike the usg, that works a little for itself and the rest for us, i work for us. the whole way. 1323059;1447431526;asciilifeform;if this existed in usa today, it would look like usa circa 1950 and there'd be no question of 'which bottle' 1323060;1447431554;mircea_popescu;i dun believe either that if stands or it'd matter if it stood. 1323061;1447431564;mircea_popescu;horribru disease, counterfactualism. 1323062;1447431569;asciilifeform;as it is, courage XOR skill. presently. 1323063;1447432110;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6109 @ 0.00055167 = 3.3702 BTC [+] {2} 1323064;1447432853;*;mircea_popescu is kinda pleased nobody picked on ho-fficer as a misspelling. 1323065;1447433325;thestringpuller;is this why we don't use flamethrowers anymore? 1323066;1447433626;thestringpuller;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LWQQrpSc4 << Funny how Disney got it right. 1323067;1447433702;kakobrekla;handsome pilot is no longer handsome http://www.demilked.com/social-changes-best-word-book-ever-richard-scarry/ 1323068;1447433703;assbot;25+ Changes That Were Made To Your Favorite Childhood Book To Keep Up With The Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1lna5WW ) 1323069;1447433940;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00055844 = 4.5513 BTC [+] {2} 1323070;1447434680;funkenstein_;for those interested in setting up 25 cent vps nodes: buildroot needs more than 512 M ram to build toolchain 1323071;1447434752;kakobrekla;25 cent ? what, per hour ? 1323072;1447434849;mircea_popescu;how much does it need ? 1323073;1447434855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10141 @ 0.0005584 = 5.6627 BTC [-] 1323074;1447434877;funkenstein_;not sure. probably better to build elsewhere and pass it in? 1323075;1447434885;mircea_popescu;usually how it's done. 1323076;1447434901;funkenstein_;did i mention i'm a slow learner? 1323077;1447434929;*;funkenstein_ applauds molotov instruction 1323078;1447434961;mircea_popescu;hehe. now go share it. 1323079;1447434986;funkenstein_;kakobrekla, 25 cents per 36 hours or so :D 1323080;1447435039;funkenstein_;y'all might be interested in this guy's promotion of roll your own crypto: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/NSAchallenge.php 1323081;1447435040;assbot;Rivero challenges the NSA | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ... ( http://bit.ly/1lncqBb ) 1323082;1447436717;BingoBoingo;This is what happens to people who don't read qntra: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-man-is-rd-charged-with-social-media/article_6e950e58-9e8c-53af-80b2-f23ff8211b16.html 1323083;1447436718;assbot;St. Louis County man is 3rd charged with social media threats amid Mizzou tumult : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lneMQq ) 1323084;1447436866;shinohai;"Yik Yak is basically a bathroom stall," <<< <3 1323085;1447437013;BingoBoingo;No it isn't. Bathroom stalls don't snitch to the popo 1323086;1447437110;BingoBoingo;!up hdbuck 1323087;1447437226;hdbuck;hey 1323088;1447437291;hdbuck;mircea_popescu the future… https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/autoblow-2-a-robotic-oral-sex-simulator-for-men#/ 1323089;1447437292;assbot;Autoblow 2: A Robotic Oral Sex Simulator For Men | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y9oZOp ) 1323090;1447437344;hdbuck;yeah baby http://www.vaginacontest.com/ 1323091;1447437345;assbot;The Autoblow's Vaginal Beauty Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y9p7xj ) 1323092;1447437359;punkman;funkenstein_: kakobrekla, 25 cents per 36 hours or so :D << I've seen some for 50 cents / month 1323093;1447437512;mircea_popescu;mmm 1323094;1447437661;punkman;http://www.vaginacontest.com/profilePhotos/N20QnNell.jpg 1323095;1447437663;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnfP2G ) 1323096;1447438324;mircea_popescu;that is a vulva. 1323097;1447438361;mircea_popescu;but #whatever, me approves of the way we've been moving window. few years ago it was tits for money, now it's cunt for free. 1323098;1447438412;kakobrekla;i think you still run tits for money thing. 1323099;1447438443;mircea_popescu;so i do. 1323100;1447438501;kakobrekla;perhaps it needs an update. show me your cunt and ill allow you to write xyz on your tits, or something. 1323101;1447438605;mircea_popescu;lol 1323102;1447438860;BingoBoingo;Meanwhile in Ohio https://i.sli.mg/QVxEBb.jpg 1323103;1447438861;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnh4io ) 1323104;1447439036;mircea_popescu;ha 1323105;1447439174;BingoBoingo;https://i.imgur.com/fbnaIeX.png 1323106;1447439175;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnhq8P ) 1323107;1447440109;jurov;!t m s.mpoe 1323108;1447440109;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00053727 / 0.00055708 / 0.00057294 (345824 shares, 192.65 BTC), 7D: 0.00053146 / 0.00055263 / 0.00057294 (9320869 shares, 5,151.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0004711 / 0.00053681 / 0.00057294 (54253380 shares, 29,123.94 BTC) 1323109;1447440284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00054486 = 1.6891 BTC [-] {2} 1323110;1447442663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4585 @ 0.00054315 = 2.4903 BTC [-] {2} 1323111;1447442945;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1323070 << for those interested in eating in dumpsters: broken glass is sharp and doesn't taste very good 1323112;1447442945;assbot;Logged on 13-11-2015 17:11:20; funkenstein_: for those interested in setting up 25 cent vps nodes: buildroot needs more than 512 M ram to build toolchain 1323113;1447442975;BingoBoingo;Doesn't taste very bad either. Very neutral taste 1323114;1447442992;asciilifeform;if you like the taste of own blood 1323115;1447443018;asciilifeform;what is it with this expectation people have that 'vps' etc is usable. 1323116;1447443023;asciilifeform;esp. for 25c 1323117;1447443144;BingoBoingo;The blood has its own taste, merely incidental to the glass consumption. 1323118;1447443205;deedbot-;[Qntra] Colorado Springs Drops Police Fitness Tests After Suit - http://qntra.net/2015/11/colorado-springs-drops-police-fitness-tests-after-suit/ 1323119;1447443408;mircea_popescu;this is good for fatcoin. 1323120;1447443427;mircea_popescu;and in culture clash news, http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-october-2015-statement/#comment-115867 1323121;1447443427;assbot;BitBet (S.BBET) October 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nvn7YJ ) 1323122;1447443449;BingoBoingo;Seriously. May the MayoGendered and Law Enforcement in the United States unify in morbid obesity. 1323123;1447443521;mircea_popescu;what to do in argentina while awaiting for plumber ? 1323124;1447443529;mircea_popescu;take a long hot shower secure in the knowledge they won't show up. 1323125;1447443554;asciilifeform;do mircea_popescu's pets shit gravel, or what. much plumber. 1323126;1447443562;mircea_popescu;much place. 1323127;1447443575;asciilifeform;'n-engined airplane theorem' ? 1323128;1447443582;asciilifeform;(n engines, n*c engine problems) 1323129;1447443583;mircea_popescu;something like that. 1323130;1447443618;mircea_popescu;no money, no problems. always remember. 1323131;1447443650;asciilifeform;wut 1323132;1447443663;mircea_popescu;aha. 1323133;1447444395;*;BingoBoingo wonders how asciilifeform would handle sudden wealth in the form of 2000 BTC, a 20lb gold dumbell (encased in vinyl for concealment), and a duffel bag full of $20 dollar bills. 1323134;1447444419;BingoBoingo;Since the $20's aren't benjies they can be spent 1323135;1447444420;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the same way i would handle monkeys flooding out of my arse while the sky turns fluorescent purple 1323136;1447444552;BingoBoingo;So panic? 1323137;1447444579;asciilifeform;so NULL 1323138;1447444591;BingoBoingo;I was kinda hoping the answer would have been sprat boat 1323139;1447444592;asciilifeform;or, if you prefer, 1323140;1447444593;asciilifeform;nil 1323141;1447444602;asciilifeform;or for 'scheme' aficionados, #f 1323142;1447444639;punkman;but world is javascript, so "undefined" 1323143;1447444640;BingoBoingo;How do you know the lizards now aren't going to make the monkeys and sky thing happen to you nao 1323144;1447444700;jurov;alf would indeed surmise these things must have come from lizard hitler 1323145;1447444735;BingoBoingo;I'm pretty sure "arse monkeys" is now on a requisition form somewhere in fort Meade 1323146;1447444846;*;BingoBoingo thinking now if it would count if the monkeys were blended and used in an enema 1323147;1447444916;jurov;BingoBoingo: check for any weird substances in your drink? 1323148;1447444960;BingoBoingo;Maybe it's just the sobriety thing getting in my head 1323149;1447445166;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2011/09/29/hugo_chavez_caption_contest/Colbert_censorship_GIF.gif.CROP.original-original.gif 1323150;1447445168;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1kuFFSq ) 1323151;1447446201;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12738 @ 0.00054384 = 6.9274 BTC [+] {6} 1323152;1447446684;jurov;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a57_1264994259 O.o 1323153;1447446685;assbot;LiveLeak.com - Best Action Scene Of ALL TIME ... ( http://bit.ly/1WX21HT ) 1323154;1447447543;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00054657 = 1.0385 BTC [+] {2} 1323155;1447448885;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4273 @ 0.00054657 = 2.3355 BTC [+] {2} 1323156;1447449372;ben_vulpes;http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panda-Small-Mini-Dryer-5-5lbs-2-5kg-Compact-Apartment-Dryer-Pan725sf-New-/301640663755?hash=item463b2f42cb:g:aYoAAOSweW5VXhZa << breakeven with the "on site" quarter-driven driver is some 173 loads, minus the value of being able to dry infantwear on demand. 1323157;1447449373;assbot;Panda Small Mini Dryer-5.5lbs/2.5kg Compact Apartment Dryer Pan725sf New ... ( http://bit.ly/1RUpybl ) 1323158;1447449377;ben_vulpes;ah, the poverty of my generation. 1323159;1447450949;jurov;https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/72652/beaches-carnivals-and-cybercrime-a-look-inside-the-brazilian-underground/ <<< the marketplace for alf's exploits :D 1323160;1447450954;assbot;Beaches, carnivals and cybercrime: a look inside the Brazilian underground - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQUJF0 ) 1323161;1447450959;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4981 @ 0.00053512 = 2.6654 BTC [-] {2} 1323162;1447450965;asciilifeform;jurov: mno 1323163;1447450974;asciilifeform;jurov: the market place for ~other folks'~ exploits. 1323164;1447451049;pete_dushenski;;;seen chetty 1323165;1447451049;gribble;chetty was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: perhaps this will backlash into getting more people off windows ...nah, I dream 1323166;1447451081;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00053396 = 5.4565 BTC [-] {3} 1323167;1447451110;pete_dushenski;;;later tell chetty you game for in an interview re: eulora ? i have a bitcoin-themed podcast who's interested :) 1323168;1447451110;gribble;The operation succeeded. 1323169;1447451192;pete_dushenski;said podcast, "let's talk bitcoin" may also be interested in talking to BingoBoingo and asciilifeform regarding their respective projects. 1323170;1447451201;asciilifeform;bawhat 1323171;1447451205;asciilifeform;l0l 1323172;1447451210;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: THIS IS PR! 1323173;1447451216;asciilifeform;they know where to find us forfuckssake 1323174;1447451224;asciilifeform;~HERE~ 1323175;1447451317;*;pete_dushenski has the sneaking suspicion that he's going to find myself as a guest on podcast. because tmsr doesn't do vocal chords. 1323176;1447451422;pete_dushenski;BingoBoingo: could you be persuaded to represent qntra for a voice interview ? 1323177;1447451669;pete_dushenski;kk scratch the voice idea. interviewers will come here. 1323178;1447451675;pete_dushenski;i dunno what's wrong with my head. 1323179;1447451707;pete_dushenski;trying to manage "the people" using my tsmr head will take some sorting otu 1323180;1447451711;pete_dushenski;out* 1323181;1447451813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005319 = 4.7871 BTC [-] 1323182;1447452351;mircea_popescu;apropos de nothing, http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/universities_have_become_totalitarian_gulags.html 1323183;1447452352;assbot;Articles: Universities Have Become Totalitarian Gulags ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqkUli ) 1323184;1447452427;hdbuck;shit hitting the fan in paris 1323185;1447452446;mircea_popescu;hdbuck those dudes know all about burning cars huh. 1323186;1447452473;pete_dushenski;hdbuck: what's the fuss this time ? 1323187;1447452497;hdbuck;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html 1323188;1447452498;assbot;Paris shooting: Several killed and injured after 'Kalashnikov and grenade attacks' across French capital - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqlnUC ) 1323189;1447452501;hdbuck;‘on going' 1323190;1447452516;mircea_popescu;je suis charlie un poco mas ? 1323191;1447452521;asciilifeform;for piiiiigleeet!!! 1323192;1447452637;hdbuck;40 deaths?? Oo 1323193;1447452640;mircea_popescu;oh look art that, telegraph doesn't actually load a usable page. 1323194;1447452645;mircea_popescu;i guess the frfench stuff never happened. 1323195;1447452832;*;hdbuck wonders if the OCP21 thingy will be cancelled. 1323196;1447452900;pete_dushenski;what's that? 1323197;1447452929;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: where was the podcast thing or whatever it was 1323198;1447452942;pete_dushenski;also, what's going to be the "paris of the west" once paris is part of the "east" ? 1323199;1447452977;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/ 1323200;1447452980;assbot;Home | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqmTpN ) 1323201;1447452996;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: which issue ? 1323202;1447453032;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: the interviews haven't been done yet ? 1323203;1447453033;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00053658 = 3.6165 BTC [+] {2} 1323204;1447453040;asciilifeform;well no shit 1323205;1447453047;asciilifeform;but where did pete_dushenski get the idea that they wanted any 1323206;1447453061;pete_dushenski;asked. 1323207;1447453074;asciilifeform;hm ok 1323208;1447453076;asciilifeform;let'em come here. 1323209;1447453448;asciilifeform;pete_dushenski: podcast folks typically expect a voice track, yes. and now that i think about it, i've heard a dozen or so episodes of this one. quite mediocre (shilled for gavin, hearn, et al) but as i recall - quite popular. 1323210;1447453462;asciilifeform;so if you feel like preaching to the heathens, go for it. 1323211;1447453514;pete_dushenski;i'm proposing that they come here and, if they so desire, have a voice actor play the role of interviewee for the program 1323212;1447453519;pete_dushenski;they also have a blog so there's that 1323213;1447453524;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski does this thing have to be oral ? 1323214;1447453526;pete_dushenski;and yes, reasonably popular 1323215;1447453538;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: i'm trying to work around it. tbd. 1323216;1447453615;phf;have interview on #b-a, have a dramatic reading version for podcasters 1323217;1447453629;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1323187 << updated, '40 dead... grenades ... pump-action shotgun' etc 1323218;1447453629;assbot;Logged on 13-11-2015 22:08:17; hdbuck: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html 1323219;1447453632;mircea_popescu;tell you what, if it IS a podcast they can do the interview in writing here like sane people, then i'll pay some slut to read my lines out into a mic. 1323220;1447453639;asciilifeform;^ 1323221;1447453643;mircea_popescu;gimicky enough to actually add value to their shit anyway. 1323222;1447453648;pete_dushenski;'stan, of cardano fame, played by james earl jones 1323223;1447453651;hdbuck;true true 1323224;1447453684;*;asciilifeform does not have very much to say to podcast people 1323225;1447453695;hdbuck;eh anyway, was quite a bummer, now, im just getting way used to this shit. what a world. 1323226;1447453712;mircea_popescu;o look, phf had my idea, only a minute eartlier. 1323227;1447454114;phf;i like the slut version, but it has to sound really bubbly and vapid. i was thinking have actors impersonators, morgan freeman, clint eastwood, christopher walken 1323228;1447454141;jurov;sexysaffron can do it, complete with video 1323229;1447454189;pete_dushenski;video doesn't do much here 1323230;1447454203;mircea_popescu;you ever heard sesame or whats her name phf ? 1323231;1447454237;mircea_popescu;and if you think i'm paying for some non b-a outlet to have morgan freeman read shit out loud you're off your rocker. 1323232;1447454251;mircea_popescu;for one thing, the old derp's on the index list for supporting libertard notions. 1323233;1447454258;pete_dushenski;l0l 1323234;1447454324;mircea_popescu;d'oh. anyone thinks they're an actor and said anything that can vaguely be interpreted in the direction of supporting libertard policy, they're gonna wish they said they support child fucking with farm implements instead. 1323235;1447454328;mircea_popescu;better for their career. 1323236;1447454349;pete_dushenski;so much for james cameron directing the next b-a flick 1323237;1447454355;pete_dushenski;tarantino ftw 1323238;1447454370;mircea_popescu;tarantino all the way. 1323239;1447454387;phf;sesame? 1323240;1447454390;pete_dushenski;you see that his next flick is 70mm ultra pano ? 1323241;1447454420;pete_dushenski;!s hateful eight 1323242;1447454421;assbot;2 results for 'hateful eight' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hateful+eight 1323243;1447454440;pete_dushenski;http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/movies/tarantinos-the-hateful-eight-resurrects-nearly-obsolete-technology.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0 1323244;1447454443;assbot;Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sqr3h7 ) 1323245;1447454524;pete_dushenski;"“We’ve been accused of actually cornering the market on 70-millimeter projectors,” Mr. Cutler said. “It’s probably pretty true. There probably aren’t too many out there that we didn’t find.” Most of them were destroyed, he added, during the conversion to digital projection." 1323246;1447454530;pete_dushenski;"“The Hateful Eight” is not just any 70-millimeter movie: It is only the 10th feature to make full use of shooting in Ultra Panavision, an extra-wide format, but it will actually have the technology’s largest opening in terms of screen numbers." 1323247;1447454595;*;pete_dushenski to go pick up saddam from mechanic then to dinner. later ! 1323248;1447455114;hdbuck;http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151113_paris2.jpg 1323249;1447455115;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HIbXTV ) 1323250;1447455233;hdbuck;US equity *futures* 1323251;1447455730;mircea_popescu;hey, lower than ethereum even. 1323252;1447456998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053773 = 1.7207 BTC [+] {2} 1323253;1447458081;hdbuck;https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/665298393833451520/photo/1 1323254;1447458858;mircea_popescu;phf my bad, saffron 1323255;1447458934;*;jurov giggles every time mp tries to remember her name 1323256;1447459194;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5734 @ 0.00054691 = 3.136 BTC [+] {4} 1323257;1447460678;ben_vulpes;sassafras 1323258;1447460706;ben_vulpes;davout: you still alive? 1323259;1447460718;ben_vulpes;yo so was it $epithet in paris or what? 1323260;1447460880;trinque;ben_vulpes: news is reporting people at least claiming ISIS affiliation in the thing, not that I count that as hard confirmation 1323261;1447460930;trinque;flatten that part of syria and iraq yet? guess not 1323262;1447461021;trinque;and so I suppose the west truly does not want to live, and so be it 1323263;1447461129;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: could you be persuaded to represent qntra for a voice interview ? << The onus is on them to do the text to voice thing. 1323264;1447461290;ben_vulpes;"how do we keep terrorists out?" 1323265;1447461298;ben_vulpes;"welcome refugees from syria with open arms!" 1323266;1447461456;mats;nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah 1323267;1447461466;mats;its already over, man 1323268;1447461477;trinque;yep, I know they don't. 1323269;1447461492;BingoBoingo;The latest person out at Mizzou is Coach Gary Pinkel. https://archive.is/RTE27 1323270;1447461494;assbot;Updated: Gary Pinkel announces retirement due to health reasons – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pslh0S ) 1323271;1447461506;mats;actually, maybe putin does 1323272;1447461573;mats;that would set isis back a few years 1323273;1447461714;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/AFP/status/665321462442528768 1323274;1447461755;BingoBoingo;Round a hundred thought dead in the theater 1323275;1447461817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7785 @ 0.00054727 = 4.2605 BTC [+] {2} 1323276;1447462110;asciilifeform;'Expertise in any combination of the following cryptographic primitives is desired: private information retrieval, fully homomorphic encryption, pairing- or lattice-based cryptography, multi-party computation, and distributed key management architectures.' -- from a nazi help-wanted ad 1323277;1447462314;deedbot-;[cascadian hacker] Don't say tragedy of the commons. Don't say it! - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/13_dont-say-tragedy-of-the-commons-dont-say-it.html 1323278;1447462365;hdbuck;realityshitshow, the new ISIS MO. and the media loves it. 1323279;1447462514;trinque;ben_vulpes: can't even solve the corner pallet crisis; west is toast! 1323280;1447462527;ben_vulpes;https://gcaptain.com/rolls-royce-reveals-entrenched-failings-to-stunned-investors << on the "britain sucks" thread 1323281;1447462530;assbot;Rolls-Royce Reveals Entrenched Failings to Stunned Investors - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1Psma9C ) 1323282;1447462591;asciilifeform;no mention of dip in airline motor demand, curious. 1323283;1447462671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2264 @ 0.00053773 = 1.2174 BTC [-] {2} 1323284;1447462708;ben_vulpes;it's subtle but i thought i saw it 1323285;1447462739;mircea_popescu; nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah << it wouldn't take one. it would take about fifty or so to properly glass the place. 1323286;1447462744;ben_vulpes;"The newcomer cut full-year forecasts, halted a share buyback and said 2016 numbers would be hurt by slowing sales of engines for smaller aircraft and ships that serve the beleaguered offshore oil industry." 1323287;1447462745;mircea_popescu;nobody EVEN HAS fifty functional ones. 1323288;1447462758;ben_vulpes;what's wrong with firebombing? 1323289;1447462764;mircea_popescu;they grow back. 1323290;1447462771;asciilifeform;^ 1323291;1447462779;mircea_popescu;russians tried it to death\ 1323292;1447462784;mircea_popescu;can't say they don't have the oil for it. 1323293;1447462805;ben_vulpes;"Earnings will now be hurt by “sharply lower” sales of corporate jets powered by Rolls engines, together with a more sluggish maintenance market both for those aircraft and bigger regional jets" 1323294;1447462821;*;asciilifeform wonders about ground-penetrating nukez + natural petro deposits 1323295;1447462828;*;ben_vulpes shudders 1323296;1447462831;mircea_popescu;needs air to burn. 1323297;1447462832;trinque;that every "great power" is perturbed by this religion and yet it remains speaks endlessly to the weakness of "great power" 1323298;1447462845;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the air comes back after the initial vacuum funnel 1323299;1447462847;mircea_popescu;trinque you realise religion has nothing to do with it. 1323300;1447462852;mircea_popescu;you can't run a country on women only. 1323301;1447462866;trinque;this group of people who have functioning hierarchy and men, yes 1323302;1447462886;mircea_popescu;so then... of fucking course bipedal lifeforms with both eyes will own lame blind asses ? 1323303;1447462927;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is "fully homomorphic encryption" supposed to be. 1323304;1447462943;mircea_popescu;holy shit even the words of this doomed civilisation are aspirational now. "it means nothing, but what does it aspire to mean ?" 1323305;1447463102;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes the problem being that rolls was one of the precious few spots where britain didn't suck. 1323306;1447463134;mircea_popescu;now they're going to scrap high performance engine production also, so next time they want to invade argentina they rent cessnas in peru or some shit. 1323307;1447463252;BingoBoingo;rent low performance engines in Detroit 1323308;1447463336;*;mircea_popescu eagerly awaits the photoproof of the new nigger-rigged british airforce. 1323309;1447463339;mircea_popescu;per ardua ad astra!11 1323310;1447463411;BingoBoingo;Pretty sure Britain can't afford that rigging. Spent everything in F-35 pre-orders 1323311;1447463501;trinque;the linksys router of the skies 1323312;1447463537;trinque;fuck it all, better learn mandarin or russian. there's nothing left in the european sack 1323313;1447463548;BingoBoingo;No, linksys delivered eventually. Even fucking Duke Nukem forever got delivered 1323314;1447463601;trinque;I recall that some "selling point" of the thing was its role as a network node other devices would use 1323315;1447463611;trinque;but too true, why insult linksys so 1323316;1447463696;BingoBoingo;Also as far as places to go, consider learning penguin 1323317;1447463871;mircea_popescu;lol 1323318;1447463876;mircea_popescu;no habla espanol trinque ? 1323319;1447463881;trinque;un poco 1323320;1447463906;mircea_popescu;last time there was a war the argentines came out of it better than literally everyone else. 1323321;1447463930;mircea_popescu;how the god forsaken shithole even got to be a country in the first place, all that war profiteering. 1323322;1447463944;mircea_popescu;reminds me of romania to a rather large degree, if off by a century or two. 1323323;1447464075;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes so what'd you have preferred, a notice that "I am watching this spot - if you dump trash here I will shoot you. Here's a pic of the rifle." 1323324;1447464257;mircea_popescu;https://d19hkjflplfhx2.cloudfront.net/media/about-us/group.jpg << build a more diverse workforce, women still cluster together. 1323325;1447464258;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsnNUP ) 1323326;1447465172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10604 @ 0.00052543 = 5.5717 BTC [-] {5} 1323327;1447465324;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: that is the only solution, right? 1323328;1447465335;ben_vulpes;"pick another corner, dumbshits, this one is mine." 1323329;1447465353;*;ben_vulpes doesn't know how this nugget failed to make it into the turd 1323330;1447465797;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323303 << see logz!! 1323331;1447465797;assbot;Logged on 14-11-2015 01:02:07; mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "fully homomorphic encryption" supposed to be. 1323332;1447465799;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, my pickled gerkins (industria argentina!) are "kosher". except no rabi is mentioned. 1323333;1447465800;asciilifeform;!s homomorphic 1323334;1447465801;assbot;32 results for 'homomorphic' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=homomorphic 1323335;1447465807;mircea_popescu;i can't decide which side of retarded this falls on. 1323336;1447465847;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform except no such thing actually exists, so what "basics" and "primitives" ? suppose i hire solid state engineers, and want them to know the basics such as cold fusion ? 1323337;1447465857;asciilifeform;it's a kind of cryptographolysenkoism aha 1323338;1447465878;mircea_popescu;these ain't the basics of no physics i ever heard of. 1323339;1447465902;asciilifeform;thing is (again see logz) there are gibblets of usable mechanism scattered throughout the field 1323340;1447465912;asciilifeform;(e.g., 'millinaire protocol' etc) 1323341;1447465922;asciilifeform;*millionaire 1323342;1447465923;mircea_popescu;sure, sure. how much do you want to bet that won't be on the test. 1323343;1447465937;*;asciilifeform did not go and take 'the test' 1323344;1447465981;asciilifeform;(yet...) 1323345;1447465985;mircea_popescu;anyone have any experience with internet.bs ? 1323346;1447466055;asciilifeform;looks like a possible swap-in for namecheap! 1323347;1447466064;*;asciilifeform writes down 1323348;1447466079;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323324 << who are they ? 1323349;1447466079;assbot;Logged on 14-11-2015 01:24:17; mircea_popescu: https://d19hkjflplfhx2.cloudfront.net/media/about-us/group.jpg << build a more diverse workforce, women still cluster together. 1323350;1447466122;mircea_popescu;right. 1323351;1447466130;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the derp[s working for name.com 1323352;1447466139;asciilifeform;ah 1323353;1447466179;asciilifeform;incl. the dog.. 1323354;1447466223;asciilifeform;and the cardboard man 1323355;1447466226;asciilifeform;(right-hand) 1323356;1447466311;ben_vulpes;"socialist millionaires protocol", too lol 1323357;1447466329;asciilifeform;!s paillier 1323358;1447466330;assbot;15 results for 'paillier' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=paillier 1323359;1447466340;asciilifeform;^ prolly best-known 'homomorphic' thing 1323360;1447466479;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/3ea4c6cfd1af432bba0675b8bde21056/tumblr_n74hilKQPB1qzuheco1_1280.jpg (nsfa) 1323361;1447466523;assbot; ... ( http://bit.ly/1HIwFmy ) 1323362;1447466523;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258158 << today i learned! 1323363;1447466523;assbot;Logged on 01-09-2015 04:12:57; asciilifeform: incidentally, your unixlike box almost certainly has 'tsort' utility 1323364;1447466671;*;asciilifeform brushes up on homomorphic idiocy for his inevitable tour in шарашка 1323365;1447466787;mircea_popescu;namecheap "upgraded" it's website. and it's been a nightmare ever since. now i can't even get a list of my fucking domains the normal way. but lo and behold... they have an "export as csv". 1323366;1447466788;ben_vulpes;so asciilifeform i notice that none of the "flow" implementations to date have matching output, and the "press" all depend to one degree or another on the inputs to the relevant "tsort" implementations, they're not guaranteed to "press" the same trees. non determinism at this endpoint gives me the willies, is that stupid? 1323367;1447466793;mircea_popescu;i click it and... nothing happens. of course. 1323368;1447466798;mircea_popescu;i review source and.... wait for it.... 1323369;1447466799;mircea_popescu;